Welcome back to the inspired
living with autoimmunity podcast.
I'm your host, Julie Michelson.
And today Dr.
Tami Meraglia joins us again.
And we're talking about energy and
frequency as a pillar of health.
Dr.
Tami is the producer of the docuseries,
the healing secret, the author of
the nationally bestselling book,
the hormone secret and the CEO of
vitality hormone clinic in Seattle,
bio Renati Stem Cell and Regenerative
Center in Puerto Vallarta, Mexico,
and the Seattle Stem Cell Center.
In today's conversation, we
discuss why it's essential for
optimal health to be supporting
our cellular electricity, and Dr.
Tami gives us great tips and
essential practices to incorporate
into our daily routines.
Dr.
Tami, welcome to the podcast.
Thank you for having me.
I'm so excited that you were
gracious enough to come back and
have a second conversation with us.
Thank you.
Thank you.
My pleasure.
Really, really glad to, to get
to hit on some of the things we
didn't get to last time, but for
listeners that did not hear your last
episode, can you share a little bit?
I think your, your story is remarkable.
Um, can you share a little bit of your
journey from, I'm just going to leave
it at how are you so open minded?
I think it helps to not have gone
through high school, undergrad, medical
school, residency, doctor, like all
in a row, I left home at a young age
and danced professionally in a ballet
company for many, many years and
toured and, and, and had a whole life.
That was very different from, your
typical, you know, world, especially
for a teen and early twenties.
And so when I went to school, I didn't
intend on going to medical school.
I was like, Oh my gosh, that's
like a lot of school, but anatomy
captured my interest and sciences.
When you do well in them, you
end up with a pre med degree.
And I worked at, um, I haven't told
hardly anybody this story because I never
think of it as, as being important, but
yet it sticks out in my mind as one of
the places where I really decided that I
don't know if I'm going to be a doctor,
but I'm going to be involved in caring
for people in a way that is significant.
So I worked at an assisted living home, a
private assisted living home, which meant.
I had seven adults with varying
degrees of medical needs.
I have no idea how it's legal to put
somebody like me who had no training at
the time in charge of this and I was in
charge for 72 hours, all day, all night.
You know, morning, noon and night and
I had to do a straight catheter on
one gentleman and there was, you know,
another little lady in a wheelchair
and there was this Irish woman and
she had dementia and she was combative
and they changed her medications the
first day that I was there and I was
in charge of medications and in the
nighttime she was shouting and carrying
on and I go in and she was a nanny.
And she says, I'm going to die.
I'm going to make meet my maker.
Oh, no, not on my
And I'm like, no, and then she looked
at me and she says, who are you?
And I said, you know, I'm Tami.
She's what's your family name?
And I said, Oh, Casey was my family name.
And she said, Oh, the old
Casey's are a terrible lot.
Oh,
Just had all these intense experiences,
but come morning, you know, I'd take
them outside and I learned about
the power of music to help them feel
more calm and looked into nutrition.
And I don't know, it just piqued
my interest of at any stage of your
life, can you up level things simply?
I love that.
I ended up going to medical
school, but I was older.
And I didn't swallow all the Kool Aid.
I remember being told that, you
know, we should prescribe, you
know, proton pump inhibitors and H2
blockers for reflux, for heartburn.
And I was asking, well, but, but why?
Which doesn't happen very
No.
And, and, you know, gosh, I
wish more doctors would ask that
Well, I, you know, I
people we've had to work off of
I know, and it's not easy to get off
of them, and I was told, well, it's
because people have too much acid, and
I was like, that doesn't make any sense.
Like an 18 year old has way more acid,
and they eat a pizza and a liter of
coke and go to bed and have no problem.
Like this doesn't add up.
So I've always been that personality
type that questions, like.
Upstream.
Like, but why?
But why?
And so then if you dig, you go, Oh,
actually it's a deficiency of acid that
causes this problem because your, your
sphincter, your lower esophageal sphincter
is supposed to close in the presence
of acid, which happens when you eat.
But if you don't have enough,
it, it, it doesn't close all the
way or it doesn't close properly.
So I just didn't swallow well.
All of the Kool Aid and I think that
the open mindedness isn't necessarily
an open mindedness to information.
It's a curiosity about why and asking
questions constantly much to my husband's
That, that approach, um, is my, literally
my favorite example of the different
approaches in traditional Western medicine
versus functional medicine, because
it's, it's such a, literally a 180.
Right there.
Well, is it not enough acid?
Is it too much acid?
Which is it?
And not enough for everybody
listening is the correct answer.
Yeah.
It's the, you know, we need that
signal and the connection of the,
the, this association of like, Oh my
gosh, your digestive tract starts in
your mouth and goes all the way out.
What?
It's all one system.
Wow.
Um, but I love that you brought up that
example because That is that question.
Why?
Right.
I used to as a tired mom, not
always love that question.
We would joke, um, bringing me back,
you know, 20, 25 years and the kids
were little and you know, it would be
like, yep, that's your favorite letter.
But thank goodness.
I even knew enough back
then not to squash that.
Right.
That's what.
Just keeps us going and growing.
And I love that.
And I'm so excited.
So this open minded now physician
is still obviously asking why.
Um,
So I finished traditional Western
medical school and you know,
that's four years undergrad.
That's four years medical school.
That's three plus years residency.
It's a lot of education and I'm so
grateful for it and I wouldn't have
traded it for the world, but I learned
very little to nothing about wellness.
Truly optimizing health and I didn't learn
anything about preventative medicine.
So when you go to the doctor for your
preventative medical appointment,
they're not trying to prevent stuff.
They're trying to find
things at early stages.
That's not the same.
It's still a disease, a
diagnosis, and a condition model.
And I don't have a problem with that.
Just don't call it healthcare, call
it sick care, cuz that's what it is
and it's good at
glad.
Yeah, it's awesome that we have
antibiotics if you have a burst appendix
and then a surgeon with anesthesia.
So I'm glad it's there.
But, um, But it doesn't cover wellness
and it doesn't cover prevention.
I love that word.
And like you said, optimization, right.
Which is I think where
you focus your, your time.
Yeah.
And, you know, I actually
had to go back to school.
Uh, there's a lot of doctors that, you
know, naturopaths that don't, uh, go
to traditional medical school, but, you
know, they say their education is enough
and, and maybe it is, I don't judge.
And then there's a lot of MDs who
say that they practice functional
medicine and they haven't done any
formal training and maybe it is, and
maybe their experience is enough.
But for me, I've always been curious.
And so I actually went and studied
naturopathic integrative medicine
and got certified in that.
It's not acknowledged by the American,
you know, Medical Association, the
AMA, but they're never going to
recognize a naturopathic certification.
So, um, so it was wonderful,
wonderful to be able to learn the
different paradigms and, uh, and I
really feel like the way I approach.
My practice and, you know, the other
physicians that work with me, and
we have meetings about all of our
patients that we see nationwide.
We really approach it from an evidence
based, holistic way of combining
East and West, natural and Western,
traditional and, um, forward focusing.
So, you know, if you have high blood
pressure, we are going to put you
on a blood pressure medication that
is a prescription because the worst
part about a stroke is surviving it.
But we'll also work on getting you off it.
Why?
Right?
Why do you have high blood pressure?
And let's fix that.
Exactly.
Yeah.
I love that.
And then it is so important for, uh,
thank you for sharing that approach,
your approach with our audience,
because it is, people will, you know,
sometimes they'll hear my story if I've.
I've done an interview, you know, in
the other seat and I share, you know,
the 10 prescriptions I was on, including
a proton pump inhibitor way back when,
because I had a heartburn from as a side
effect from one of my other medications,
Right?
I did not have, you know, a PPI
deficiency, um, right, but it is so
people will come and they'll say, you
know, I want to get off my meds and
I'm like, I want you to feel well.
Like, let's make that the goal, right?
Live well, live fully.
And, and so I love the, to highlight
that sometimes medications,
they're there for a reason.
And when they're used properly.
You know, no, they're not the end all be
all, but they definitely have an, it can
have an important place in keeping us
healthy or allowing us to regain health.
absolutely.
Yeah.
And it's, it's a lot more
complex than people realize.
And if you don't want to take a
prescription, then you are going to
have to do some other intervention.
What involves a difference in your
lifestyle, what goes in your mouth,
when it goes in your mouth, when
you go to sleep, how you breathe,
what you supplement, how you move.
And there's, there's a commitment
that goes along with that.
So,
It's a, and it's a process
and it can take time.
And that's where the intervention is.
Well, and that's why we
created a membership.
So first of all, we created a
membership in our practice to help
people afford concierge medicine.
So everybody wants a personalized
concierge medical doctor who does
holistic medicine that they can
call any time for any reason.
You know, during the pandemic, it
was great because we were just there
and we can write in a prescription
if you need it, if you have a UTI
and you have regularly scheduled.
Evaluations of hormones and
DNA and microbiome and we're
we're looking and digging and
optimizing in addition to that.
And so I wanted it to be affordable in my.
The lowest price point is I've
always got a commitment to making it
less than a latte a day because I'm
that.
Seattle and we have, you know, my
professional baseball players and
my professional basketball player
patients and my professional football
player patients that have my.
Cell phone number and
text me and all that.
That's a different price point, but
we pay for less than 200 a month,
but the membership mentality was
something that, you know, you pay
on a regular basis and it's like
a gym for the inside of your body.
I love that.
continuously working on it
instead of waiting until
there's a problem and it's...
Hey doctor, fix this.
Yeah.
I like that.
It's a great way to get buy in, right?
We all need to buy in that our
health is our responsibility as well.
And we need to be taking
More affordable when it's
spread out over 12 months.
sure.
Sure.
Yeah.
It feels less, less painful that way,
but also, you know, it keeps us kind
of in that game and in that mindset
as, as we move through the year,
Yeah, if you've already paid
for your appointment, you're
probably more likely to show up
Yeah.
You'll
then
done,
Yeah, 60 to 75 minutes having a, you know,
double certified MD dig into your data
for you and create a personalized program.
And so that's what we do nationwide.
That was the, the, uh, blessing
of COVID was we created a
nationwide telehealth program.
which is amazing.
It is amazing.
And there, there were many
blessings in that time period.
And I do think that that was
definitely one of the biggest ones
Yeah.
Everybody learned how to use zoom.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
So we're talking about prescriptions
and we're talking about.
You know, perspective and asking the
question, why, which I think is the key,
um, this question, why, why is it Dr.
Tami, that one of your, I don't think
you use the word pillars, but I'm, I,
I do.
okay.
One of your pillars is energy.
Yeah.
uh, I just think that If you
think about how, like, well,
how does the human body work?
What's going on in there?
So you look at structure, right?
Um, if you have a broken leg, that
doesn't matter what hormones or anything
that you're going to give somebody.
You actually have to realign
that bone and allow it to heal.
You have to fix this structure.
And then there's chemicals, right?
So there's hormones,
neurotransmitters, our food.
Turns into chemicals.
A weight loss is a chemical equation.
So we help people out with that as well.
And so the chemicals are important.
But then when I was looking,
you know, I wrote the book, the
hormone secret, I was very blessed.
It was published by Simon and
Schuster and became a bestseller.
And I was looking, well, how does
our body produce these hormones?
Like what are, why do they
produce these hormones?
What's the message?
And I realized that the messages are
sometimes electrical or frequency or
energy and your adrenal glands are a
really great example of how your body
can have a Full reaction in structure
and in chemical because of energy,
and I think of your thoughts as energy
because we can actually look at your
brain and measure the electricity
and the frequency and depending on.
Whether you're actively thinking or
not really thinking or meditating
or sleeping, that is going
to look very, very different.
It turns out every single solitary
cell in your body has electricity
and current and frequency.
And so when you're in a car and you're
driving along and then there's sirens
behind you and you hear them and you
see the lights flashing, what happens?
Well, you have a thought.
Usually.
Oh, crap.
How fast was I going?
know?
But also, your eyes will dilate.
Your respiratory rate will increase.
Your heart rate will increase.
Your palms will sweat.
You will have a full body
reaction to the thoughts.
Of being pulled over and getting,
you know, in trouble, or late,
or a ticket, or da da da da da.
I was thinking, well, how
the heck does that happen?
So I came up with this philosophy of
there are three pillars of health.
The structure, the
chemical, and the energy.
If you have something wrong with
your heart, we check the electricity.
If you have something wrong with your
nerves, we check the electricity.
If you have something wrong with
your brain, we check the electricity.
I mean, everything has frequency,
energy, and electricity.
And if you have all three, Optimized.
There's nothing that can
shake your resilience.
That doesn't mean things don't happen.
It just means that you are able
to continue to thrive through it.
If you have two that are
optimized instead of three.
It just takes a relationship breakup,
or a job loss, or a worldwide pandemic
for you to have your health shaken.
And if you only have one, you
likely already have a diagnosis.
of a disease or a condition.
And so my goal in our entire practice
is to optimize the three pillars.
I love that.
And so I am hoping to dig in today to talk
about that frequency pillar, the energy.
You know, I, I love that.
It sounds so obvious
when you say it, right?
Like if you have a brain issue,
we're checking electricity.
If you have a heart issue, you know, yet
people are always like, what do you mean?
You know, we're energy beings.
What do you mean?
Cellular energy?
What does this mean?
So tell me when you're working with
your patients on that pillar, what
kinds of things are you looking at
or looking for or having them do?
So meditation is probably the one of the
biggest things that you can do to change
the frequency of every cell in your body.
And there are people like my friend, Dr.
Joe Dispenza, who is working In doing
amazing research, like with universities
doing blood samples, saliva samples,
DNA samples, I mean, he's really
getting the data to show that meditation
actually can change the way that
cells function in a very profound way.
Um, it's amazing.
So I
amazing.
And that data is, I think, we shouldn't
need, it's not new information, but,
but the data has been missing as far as.
in today's world, right?
And so I love what the, just his whole
movement of actually, you know, really
collecting that data and, and it becomes
irrefutable at that, you know, if you're,
if you're someone who hasn't experienced
it anyway, I think once you experience
your own shift and you have your own, you
know, then you don't need convincing, but
Yeah.
it's really fun.
So you think everybody should meditate.
Oh, 100%.
But I don't think that everybody
should meditate with Dr.
Joe Dispenza's meditation
type of practice.
You need to find the one
or ones that work for you.
I probably have five different ones.
You should have a tickle trunk
because there's some days where
the sound of anybody's voice on a
meditation, I want to choke them.
Um, it just irritates
but she really needs to meditate at that
I really do, but not
with somebody's voice.
So I'll go to something else like
biornal brain beats, which, you
know, you have, you are getting
tones in your different ears.
You have to wear them.
Dr.
Andrew Huberman of Huberman
podcast just has some information
about biornal brain beats.
Again, lots and lots of research about it.
It literally puts your brain
into a different frequency.
Which then has a different cascade of
hormones and inflammatory markers and
chemicals and nutrients that are released
throughout your body all from spending.
10 to 30 minutes sitting there listening
to something that sounds like rain,
but has binary by urinal brain beats.
And there's so many that are free.
I mean, that's 1 of the things that
we do in our practice is that we
were, we're partly optimizing as, you
know, really great physicians, I hope,
but we're also navigating people's.
You know, ability to get free things.
for
How can you use your
insurance to pay for that?
How can you find this for free?
And so, there's lots on your,
on YouTube that are free, that
are by Urinal Brain Beats.
Sometimes I like to use
breathing meditations.
Dr.
Andrew Weil has a lot of them.
Uh, Dr.
Wayne Dyer has I Am That I Am.
So if you have a very strong...
Uh, religious or Christian faith,
and that is actually based on the,
the, the Hebrew word, I am that I
am changed into the tomes of music.
I mean, there's just beauty
everywhere you go in this.
And if 10 minutes to meditate,
I'm With so much love in my heart,
I'm going to call you a liar.
And ask you how much time you
spend on social media or, you know,
Well, and it's, what's the saying, you
know, and nobody, look, none of us have.
10 minutes for whatever, fill in the
unless it's prioritized.
it, right?
You have to make that time, and you're
right, I call BS right along with you,
that you can't find 10 minutes in your,
you can't create 10 minutes in your day.
Um,
think it is?
You know, I think it's more, Julie,
that, um, people, A, don't feel
differently at the very beginning when,
so they don't get that positive hit
and so there's not that dopamine hit
and so it's not reinforced right away.
And actually some people, a
lot of people, um, feel worse.
You know, they say, I suck at it,
I can't quiet my mind, this was a
failure, I'm more frustrated now
Like you're reading my mind.
That was my next question.
Yeah.
Guess
I'm a bad meditator.
You are,
We all are.
especially at the beginning.
Can you imagine like a baby?
Like, Oh my gosh, I suck at walking.
I'm just never going to do
I'm not going to do it.
I fell down.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You know, if you, I say that if you don't
truly know, I don't like the word believe,
but if you don't truly know in your heart
and in your head that meditation can
transform your present and future health
and life, then go find some more research.
If you are somebody that needs the
data because it now is available.
So there's no reason for you
to not prioritize this other
than you choosing to not.
It's the same as exercise.
The most powerful thing that you can do
for your physical health is exercise.
Even a 10 minute walk after you eat.
And to just simply never
exercise is no longer acceptable.
You know.
that exercise is going to transform
your present and your future health.
So you have to be a good parent
to yourself and you have to have a
come to Jesus talk with yourself and
you have to do things that aren't
very comfortable like meditation.
I love that.
I think one of the best gifts,
cause I was in that same boat.
I tried meditating several, you know,
several different kind of rotations
throughout my wellness journey.
And.
Was totally in that camp of
I'm a terrible meditator.
I can't do this.
And it was, it was when I finally met
Emily Fletcher from Zeva meditation.
And she said, she's such a doll.
And you know, she was like.
The brain isn't made that way.
Like, it's the exercise of returning.
It was like a lightbulb went off.
I thought I was a failure because I was
making a shopping list during my, you
know, and like, oh, I'm just bad at this.
I guess it's not working.
Um, and so it's like an exercise.
You're not going to say, I'm
going to exercise tomorrow
and sign up for a triathlon.
Like you're just not going to do it.
So don't expect to sit down and all of
a sudden, you know, have this really
transformative meditation session.
It's not going to happen.
And I think that people think that
they're supposed to have a quiet mind and
maybe there's somebody out there that's
saying that we should like have a little
intervention with them or something
because your mind can no, no more have
no thoughts than your heart can stop.
But you don't want, you really
don't want your, your brain to stop.
I promise.
no, but
where that even started, you know,
that this idea is such a, so I
love, I love that you said that.
So meditation.
Okay.
And, and really you think just
to start at 10 minutes a day
is going to move the needle?
You know, I, I think that people
feel like they have to do an hour
of meditation to make it count.
I just think that, you know, what's
scary to you, you know what you will do.
Um, for me, I take a
long time to settle down.
And so a 10 minute meditation is
never a good meditation for me.
I have to do a longer meditation just
because, like, there's just so...
You know, my favorite description
of meditation is puppy training.
So your brain is the puppy.
Sit.
And then the puppy goes,
ah, ah, ah, ah, come back,
Yep.
no, no, no, come back, sit.
And that's all it is.
And not getting mad.
You don't get mad at the
puppy for being a puppy.
You just.
Keep at it and keep at it and keep at
it and then you will eventually have
this truly blissful moment where you
are engrossed in the present moment.
And then you'll be like,
Oh, darn.
I'm evaluating the present moment.
I'm no longer in the present moment.
So it's okay.
Yeah.
And the beautiful thing is that, that,
that correct me if I'm wrong, I, my
understanding is even when we're not in
that blissful, if we don't reach that,
if we do our meditation and we're not
getting that blissful experience each
time, we're actually still on the cellular
level getting the benefits of meditating.
Yes, 100%.
Awesome.
Yeah.
Oh, good.
I'll keep doing it.
You don't have to feel like it was there.
There's
It's not always a vacation,
Yeah, there's no such
thing as a bad meditation.
It's like, you know, there's
no such thing as a bad walk.
You might not have liked it,
but you logged that benefit.
I love that.
That's amazing.
So meditation, it sounds
like number one, no brainer.
Everybody should do it.
Yeah, and maybe go to like a conference
or a weekend or a workshop or something.
Um, I know that that's was like I
tried for years to meditate and you
know, I never kind of stuck to it.
Uh, even though I would tell my patients
all the time about the benefits of it.
I'm like,
yeah, really.
as I do.
This works.
Yeah, but then when I went, I went
to a Joe Dispenza meditation a few
years ago and I went to learn a
few things to help my patients and
maybe some breathing techniques and
yeah, no, that's not what happened
Okay.
when I had that time to really practice
and learn and practice again and
learn more and then practice again
and practice again and I didn't have
laundry and I didn't have to cook and
I didn't have to clean and I didn't
have to drive and I didn't have my
computer and I didn't have my cell phone.
It was magical.
So sometimes it does take that like, you
know, little moment of time to actually.
Get the skill embedded and then
it's easier to continue on.
I love that.
I also wonder some of it is being
out of your physical environment.
I think some of it too, is you
went there holding it gently
because it wasn't for you.
You didn't go there like, I'm going to
perfect this meditation thing this time.
Right.
Well, and I almost laugh.
I'm like, Oh gosh, they're clapping
and I'm like, I don't do this.
I like, this is like a Tony
Robbins event at the beginning.
I'm like, I'm like,
When Joe first walks in
the room and people go
crazy.
Yeah.
But it isn't like that for long
and then I had to have like a
little conversation with myself.
I'm like.
Seriously?
You're gonna be like all judgy?
You flew here, you took a week off,
your family is, I mean like, really?
Yeah, you're really good at judging.
You can stay like that if you would
like to and waste this entire time.
I love it.
Do you ever wonder who's inside
your head that you're talking to?
Oh my gosh.
I think half the, literally half the work
I do with clients is about that voice.
Really, you know, retraining
and noticing and because our
thoughts are energy, right?
We just, we just said that.
And
Yes.
I used to always, Get to that part
of the work with clients, right?
This, the, the mean, I call it the mean
voice and the mean voice, the patterns,
the, you know, all of those things that
got my clients to that place of where
they are, that they're not well, right.
And one day it hit me, why am I waiting?
What if we did this work first?
for sure.
Oh, well, you know, I say it now joking
around, but I also have tears in my eyes
of like, The power to speed up healing
and give your body that additional, and
the beauty is we don't have to fix all
of the past and we don't have to change,
and you're not, you're not getting
rid of the mean girl voice completely.
I'm sorry.
It's not going away, you know, but when
you notice and you address it in the
way that works for you, and we can tip
the scales with these positive inputs.
It really allows the body, and I
never thought about it in the way of.
The pillars, you know, the, the,
the medical school approach, um,
but the, the fact that you need
that energy to be working for you
to heal is I see it all the time.
I mean, people, it used to take me so
much longer with clients to get them to
really feel like their needle was moving.
And now it's like, Oh, let's just,
we're going to jumpstart that.
And we're going to start with.
This phase.
That's
I, I love that you've given me the
more kind of, I didn't know why I
didn't ask myself why I just, you
know, it was just something that
You can always ask me.
I'm always questioning why.
I'm like, oh, why's that?
Why's that?
Tell me which why I'm missing in this.
I can learn more.
I love it.
Well, I feel like our thought, how you
think and how you feel, what you think
and how you feel, um, is like the doctor.
So we all have a doctor inside of us.
And let's pretend this doctor
is a very traditional, old
fashioned, uh, western doctor.
And they write lots and lots
and lots of prescriptions.
So your thoughts are
literally prescriptions.
Hang here with me.
So those, that prescription,
which is your thought from your
doctor, goes to the pharmacy.
Who's the pharmacist?
The pharmacist is your pituitary gland.
What does the pharmacist do?
Does they, do they look at the
prescription and say, oh, that's not gonna
bless your life, that's gonna stress you.
I'm gonna change the prescription.
No, they don't have a
license to practice medicine.
They're not allowed to
change the prescription.
What do they do?
They dispense chemicals.
that match the prescription.
So off your pituitary goes and it just
dumps chemicals and nutrients and hormones
that match your thought and your feeling.
Then every cell in your
body reacts to that.
You have a thought of fear.
Off you go.
Fear, worry, stress,
anger, lack, scarcity.
Fear again.
I mean, just all of these
thoughts are prescriptions.
Exactly.
So if, if the doctor can write a
prescription for fear, and can the
doctor write a prescription for joy.
And the answer is, of course,
Yes.
And that's
then oxytocin and all these
other hormones that bless.
All the
healing, anti inflammatory,
inflammatory.
Yep.
yep, I love it.
You just gave, and that's exactly, you
just gave me this amazing way, and I will
quote you always, to articulate when I
say to clients, you know, our, our cells
believe our thoughts as true, even if
you know they're not true when you think
them, like it, that doesn't matter.
It's like, the horse
has left the barn, like,
Because the pharmacist can go,
I know this is not good for
you, but the pharmacist isn't
But that's the, I love that.
That is amazing.
You just made my week so awesome.
Well, and then we have to step into
that power and responsibility of,
um, being present of and aware of our
own thoughts and our own feelings.
And, and then, um, It's really hard
to change your thought about a thing.
So, you know, if you're worried about
work or finances or a relationship,
it's really hard to turn that
exact thing around into a positive.
It's a big stick to lift
and look at the other end.
But you can think about
licorice ice cream.
Right.
Which is my favorite,
Dairy free of course.
the birds or whatever.
Any, any, well, and this is, I don't
know, you're leading the witness.
So is gratitude practice part
of where you're going with this?
Yes, I think that, you know, I wrote
in my book, The Hormone Secret,
about the power of gratitude.
Everybody thinks love is the
most powerful emotion and, um,
it turns out it's gratitude.
Um, people that write three things about
their partner that they're grateful for
in a study actually ended up thinking
that their partner was better looking
and kinder at the end of the experiment,
which, you know, that's just crazy.
But gratitude is very powerful.
Um, gratitude is the ultimate
state of receivership.
Ah, say that again.
Gratitude is the ultimate
state of receivership.
That's beautiful.
And I think that what we have to look
at is that all the things that we think
of as problem solving and focusing
on problems to figure it out and to,
you know, analyze it and fix it and
all of that are really just barriers.
to receiving.
Now that doesn't mean
that you just lollygag
and go, look, well,
everything's going to be fine.
I wished it so.
Yeah,
Right?
I'm manifesting, I'm
thinking about ice cream.
Um, and so that's, that's
the balance, right?
That's how to be real and in
the present without attaching.
To the problem of it, um, when
you order something on Amazon,
you know, I'm in Seattle.
So Amazon is like, we can
get it in a couple of hours.
So when you order something,
UPS or wherever, do you worry
about it after you order?
Like, how is it going to get here?
Is it, oh no, is it going by plane?
Is it going to be an accident?
Is it going to be by train?
Is it going to be by car?
Is it, you know, do you worry about it?
No, it's been ordered and you get
on with your life, but you did
have to do the work to order it.
You had to make sure there was enough
money in your bank account or on your
credit card to have the charge go through.
You did have to make sure
that the address was correct.
You did have to be specific about
what you ordered and you did have to
create the space for it to be utilized.
If it, you know, you ordered an appliance,
you're not going to have it in your yard.
So there are things
that you need to do to.
Create the space that are practical,
but then stop worrying about the how
Yeah,
sometimes the how isn't your
business if you've prepared for
the arrival and maybe that's.
You know, splitting hairs, maybe that is
part of the how, but I think if people
were very honest, they would say that they
really get stuck more in massaging the how
and worrying about the, maybe it won't.
I love that.
That is, yeah, and we can,
you can totally live there.
What I love about like the gratitude
practice or which lead it exactly
what I was saying with my clients
because changing those patterns.
Like nobody's going to listen to this
very unlikely and wake up tomorrow all of
a sudden no longer in that loop, right?
Um, that is a process, but I truly
believe, I know when you have a gratitude
practice and I, I cheered because
you, you, the study you You referred
to was three things, because that's
what it's kind of like meditation.
People are like, Oh, I
don't have time to journal.
Like, can you write three things,
three things every day, just three
things that you're grateful for.
Um, and, and so.
So that's what I call tipping the
scales or stacking the deck, right?
That's that balance you were talking
about doesn't mean you're never worrying
about anything or that you're already,
you know, this amazing letter goer of, you
know, like that's not an overnight thing.
But in the
isn't.
meditating, expressing gratitude, whether
it's to somebody or I like people to
write with a, with a handheld utensil
to get those neuropathways grooved
Hey, I have a paper calendar.
Me too.
But I'm old so
Yeah, me too.
But if I write it with my hand in
my calendar, I will remember it.
And I think that, you know, I think
that the human brain responds better to
questions than to in, than directions.
So if you find yourself worrying,
then ask yourself, is there
something in this situation that
I can do to prepare and create?
And if the answer is yes, then do that.
But the other question is, or
is what I'm doing perseverating
on worrying about the what ifs?
And if that's the, if that, if the answer
to that question is yes, then you need
to find something else to think about.
And
It doesn't mean let it
go and, and let God and
no, no,
manifest and let the
universe keep going back to.
Is there something I can do to, to
create this, to prepare for this,
to make this happen that I can do?
If yes, great, do it.
If your thoughts are just about the
worry about the what if, then...
And
It's time to shift.
Yeah.
time to shift.
I love that.
Well, I think, although you are
always full of surprises, so I, while
I think I know how you're going to
answer this question, I also know
there are infinite possibilities.
What is one step that listeners
can take today to start to move
the needle on their health?
Schedule.
Time.
Schedule.
An appointment.
For ten minutes.
Of meditation.
And find it in advance.
If you spend your ten minutes
looking on YouTube for the perfect
meditation or by your no brain
beats, then that's not going to work.
Know what you're going to do in advance.
I love that.
I love, and I love that you took
the, you know, you got to do that
ahead of, do your homework first
Right?
That's
schedule.
Yes.
the prepare, create, get ready
for, and then you spend your
time in the present moment.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
it.
I love
And it doesn't have to be big.
You do not have to go
to a week long retreat.
You do not have to do
an hour long meditation.
No, a 10 minute binaural brain beat.
And remember, When you
start, you're going to suck.
That's
okay.
When you start getting in shape,
going for a walk feels terrible.
But it was, there's no
such thing as a bad walk.
There's no such thing as a bad meditation.
I love it.
Amazing.
Dr.
Tami, I am so grateful that you came back.
This was a conversation I've been
so looking forward to having.
Um, where is, and it'll all be in the
show notes as well, but where's the
best place for people to find you?
You know, our website, you can learn
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Um, either in a membership or
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And that's biothrivelife.Com.
And uh, if you wanted to just
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Doing videos of education,
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to bless people's lives.
Amazing.
And you are such a gift.
I am very grateful for you.
Really appreciate your time
Thank you for having me.
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I hope you had a great time and enjoyed
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