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The Conscious Collaboration Podcast brings together entrepreneurs, changemakers, and thought leaders. We aim to highlight the people who embody the idea of aligned mind, body, and business. Each week, we share, discuss, and learn from the various experiences and ideas of our guest experts. Through our discovery, we find a path to aligned mind, body, and business.
The conscious collaboration brings together entrepreneurs, change makers and thought leaders. We aim to highlight the people that embody the idea of aligned mind, body and business. Each week, we share, discuss and learn from the various experiences and ideas of our guest experts. Through our discovery, we find a path to an aligned mind, body, and business.
Lisa:Hi. I'm Lisa.
Emily:And I'm Emily. And together, we are the conscious collaboration podcast. What's going on?
Lisa:Hey. How's it going?
Emily:I've seen
Lisa:you a
Emily:lot in the last few days.
Lisa:I know.
Emily:Even more than usual.
Lisa:I know. Try again. Yes. From daughter's sleepover parties to working out to Yeah. To handing over items in a parking lot.
Emily:Oh, yeah. We do it all. We do it all. So today's conversation is kind of a continued one that Lisa and I have been having in particular over, well, you know, since we've known each other. Just because this is one of the things that we talk about, but, in particular over just the last few days, with some different things that have been going on and some observations that we're making.
Emily:And so while it is not, we're not a podcast exclusively for parents. We're not a podcast exclusively for single moms, anything like that. But, it is my thought process that if we are to continue and build this legacy of thought leaders and change makers and entrepreneurs, even if we don't have children, the health of our children collectively is an extremely important, crucial topic, to understand. And as you and I both definitely know, and as I'm sure any parents who do listen to this podcast could relate to, it is increasingly challenging to raise health conscious children in the modern world. It's, it's challenging enough to, you know, remain health conscious ourselves all the time as health conscious adults.
Emily:Right? So to to share, you know, the the most important information with our children and then to hope that they use that to, you know, make their choices out in the world. Because obviously, we we can't we can't and we shouldn't try to control everything, that that is going on with them, everything that they're eating and everything that they're doing or not doing, because we're not gonna be able to do that, you know, for forever. And we want to equip them with the ability to make these choices for themselves. So we wanted to gear the conversation today towards just our experiences with, with, trying our best to raise health conscious children in the current environment and, you know, the implications that that has for us as entrepreneurs, right?
Emily:Like, there's, there's a lot to, to kind of be talked about there that, that, that it could be even uniquely challenging, to to do in that case or in cases where you're co parenting and maybe, you know, the other, the other household doesn't quite have the same views of of health and and everything. And, and so, that's that's kind of where I wanted to steer the conversation today, especially in light of the fact that collectively the health of our children is in a really dire state, in this country. You know, I I keep kinda latching on to this, this idea of diabetes. Alright. And to be clear, I'm referring to type 2 diabetes, used to be referred to as adult onset diabetes because children didn't get it.
Emily:Well, that has changed, drastically, and children do get it now. And and, so it's it's more appropriate to refer to it as type 2 diabetes. So just as kind of a brief, you know, explanation, type 1 is, where the pancreas just does not produce insulin. So so you are required to be insulin dependent in that case. And that often does, find its onset, say they used to call it juvenile diabetes, because it'd be kinda like in the 10, 11, 12 range when when you would start to, notice the effects of the symptoms of that.
Emily:So, so for type 2 diabetes, it is instead where your pancreas does produce insulin, but, your cells over time, for a variety of reasons start to become resistant to the insulin. So then your body has to produce more and more and more to get the same effect. And, you know, it's it's really, strongly linked to basically everything that, kills Americans, for the most part. And, that, you know, drastically decreases their quality of life. That some some people refer to Alzheimer's as type 3 diabetes.
Emily:You know, and and, a lot of the vascular damage that occurs, with the process of insulin resistance and moving into diabetes, then, can can be a precursor to cardiovascular disease, stroke, you know, all all any number of issues. And so our children are getting, you know, closer and closer to this state of being. And, it's just not a good thing. And diabetes is is just one thing. I I think it's kind of probably kind of the the hallmark red flag, if you will.
Emily:But, you know, there's there's a lot of other stuff going on. All the excess sort of, device and and artificial light exposure with the, lack of, going outdoors as much and, you know, a lot of sitting and sedentary lifestyle and and and all kinds of things. We're and we're just setting these guys up for failure. And so I wanna talk about it and I don't wanna be I don't wanna be, you know, Debbie Downer about the whole thing, but I think it needs to be emphasized, like, how bad the situation actually is. And it it it, you know, for for adults, it it is already the majority of of adults in America who are, in one one form of metabolic dysfunction or another, and or heading that way.
Emily:So it is already the majority with adults and, if the if the pattern continues, you know, what what why wouldn't it be children next? So and this is a problem. If we, you know, if we want why are we building what we're building as entrepreneurs and change makers and thought leaders if we're not building it for the people who come after us to, to thrive in as well. And if if we can't even guide them to the basic point of of making choices that create healthy cells in the body so that they can live a good quality of life without pain and disease. What are we doing?
Emily:Why are we building this stuff? Like, you know, why do we care, if if we're leaving it to a a sickly generation? So, but to to bring it down to a more practical level of, like, okay. Well, what can we do about this? What actionably, you know, besides, just sit there and lament the horrible state of things.
Emily:That's not really what I wanna do. I think I mean, I think that anecdotally, you and I have done a pretty good job so far, in the face of a lot of of challenges in that regard. And, so, you know, I think I think it's beneficial to talk about kinda some of the the strategies, we've used, some of the successes we've had, maybe some of the pitfalls, that we've had and some of the unique challenges that that we've run into as entrepreneurs, and single parents trying to trying to do this thing and trying to foster and, I guess not foster, create children, raise children who have who make health conscious decisions, who are health conscious, and who can, you know, use that skill of being health conscious to create a really great quality of life for themselves in the future. One of the and, you know, we've we've been talking about this in particular. Lisa mentioned the the slumber party over the weekend.
Emily:Right? So, you know, I kinda had a a a a moment there where where I was like, oh, okay. You know? Okay. I'm hosting this party, and it's kids.
Emily:Right? And it's a birthday, so there's treats expected. And, okay, how do I manage this in in a way where I'm not like the mom who, you know, no no kids wanna go to that mom's house because she's trying to serve the kids like wheat grass and, you know, whatever. But also not perpetuating the issues, you know, that I I am so personally passionate about. And, so it's just been a top of mind lately for me, especially with kinda trying to find solutions for that situation, which, I've thought, you know, these this is really useful just on a day to day basis anyway, kinda taking these and and and breaking them down to to your day to day.
Emily:And so one of the biggest issues that I think is creating this problem is, of course, the proliferation of ultra processed foods, which we now know that, kids' diets in America are comprised of 70% ultra processed foods at this point. So let's, I mean, let's let's break down what that really means. Is is a piece of ultra processed food inherently, you know, bad, the worst thing? No. Like, what you know, one Twinkie is not gonna make or break anything.
Emily:But when you think about, we are what we eat. Right? And that that's that's it's pretty literal because what we consume, what we put in our body then goes through a bunch of processes and becomes our body. It becomes the cells that our body is made of. So when you look at it in that simplistic of a way, I mean, you can feel the weight of the importance of actually eating real food.
Emily:And the weight of, especially in a developing body, in a developing brain, if we're comprising 70% of these cells of like ultra processed, chemical laden, just substances that are that the body is altogether unfamiliar with. Some of them, endocrine disruptor known endocrine system disruptors. Right? We're we're messing with hormones. A lot of pro inflammatory sort of substances, a lot of, substances considered what they now call obesogens.
Emily:You know, these these foods are designed to make you eat more. They are designed to be so highly palatable. I mean, and it like, pizza. Okay? Pizza is my thing.
Emily:And and, yes, you can make, a really good quality pizza with good quality ingredients, but, like, I will also, you know, totally get down with a giant slice of meat lovers, New York style off the street, covered in grease and and whatever. It tastes delicious. Right? It tastes delicious. And, of course, it like, adults have a hard enough time, you know, making good choices around foods clearly.
Emily:With kids, you know, who have even less knowledge and experience and and understanding of of what's happening, of course, when given the option, they're gonna choose the the highly palatable things, you know, a lot of times at least. So
Lisa:the
Emily:main driver of all this, I think, of course, comes down to us. And do we have our our health conscious choices together, and are we modeling that? Right? And that goes nutrition is an easy and and obvious piece of this pie to talk about. But I mean, you can talk about all all the other aspects of the health sphere too.
Emily:Even even something like the way we use our phones. You know? And, I I think many, if not most parents are at least we're now kind of coming to terms with the fact that, okay, it's probably not a good thing to, like, have our kids on these devices, like, for long periods of time and as the default source of entertainment and, you know, but but then what are we doing? You know? Even in the little kinda off moments, are are we using our phone in the most health conscious type of way?
Emily:And and what are we sort of modeling for our kids? So it it definitely starts there. It definitely starts there. But there's inevitably gonna be a lot that they're exposed to that we don't have control over. And so what have been some ways for you to kinda try to guide your kids towards making healthier choices, even when you're not around them?
Lisa:Gosh. Me? I mean, I'm constantly learning. I feel like my kids were just, you know, they're they're 5 and 8, but I remember being a nervous wreck in the pediatrician office and having, you know, their initial first weigh ins and check ins and temperature reads and that type of thing, and being measured against, you know, the the World Health Organization scale and the American CDC scale, and seeing just the difference in, for example, like, average height and weight in Americans versus the World Health Organization, and that was being just such a discrepancy. I mean, I know our podcast is international, and I do a lot of work internationally and have a lot of, colleagues internationally.
Lisa:It's especially obvious, in a world scope that the US is is really suffering pretty terribly right now. And a lot of it has to do with with the nutrition and, and the, our food food sources and not just what we're offering to our children, but what's available to us and what's being marketed to us, is very processed. So I'm just as overwhelmed today at them at the kids being 5 and 8 as I was when they were newborn. My kids have always trended to be on the lower end of the scale. So they, you know, they're very active, just very naturally.
Lisa:I think a lot that has to do with both of the households, my household and, my co parents' household. We're very active people, so it's a part of both of our lives to do things outside of the house. And, you know, aside from my entrepreneur life and my co parents, you know, work life, which requires you to do a lot of sitting and and, computer work. Outside of that, our households are very, very active outside, outdoors, nature type of we live in Florida, so we have so many sunny days to get us outside. And the kids have always been a part of that.
Lisa:So even in the very early stages of my businesses, the kids, especially Benjamin, the 5 year old, went with me in a lot of job site type of things before he got into, you know, I didn't have him in daycare in early days. As a single mom, I took him with me. So he had us has always had a lot a large exposure, to being in different environments. And, and luckily, because of my career being in feng shui and it being, very holistic, he's been around a lot of really healthy people. So he's been exposed to a lot of very healthy adults, same as Ainsley, I'll say, and I think I think her daycare and schools have been very, holistic minded, non, traditional in the sense that, not pop culture oriented of what you might expect, US kids to grow up.
Lisa:So for me, it's learning every day. And I do I will say I make lots of mistakes, but the kids make great great decisions on their own. So they'll even say, you know, mom, I need to after I eat something healthy, can I have a treat? And they know the difference between healthy food and treat food. So, they know that's in both of our in both households, that's important to eat the healthy food first before you have a treat, if you wanna have a treat.
Lisa:In, I think, both of our households, my household, and my co parents' household, it's we're so involved with what the kids are doing, and we ask them a lot of questions. So, they are very much empowered to make their own decisions and their own mistakes, and to talk about them. I so I think some of my best, you know, habits that I've instilled in my own household is it's having reachable healthy food And, you know, especially during growth spurts, they, you know, they were going through a a phase where I was very much like the waitress, and it was like, mom, give me a snack, mom this, mom that, and that I could control what I was giving them. But now it's more like, you know, where the food is for a snack. So they know to go to the refrigerator, and they know how to cut their own vegetables or cucumbers or get the carrots or whatever.
Lisa:But they also have access to snack food, and it's there. It's just they choose healthy food first. So it's not a lot for me to chase them and, you know you know, take away the food from them because they're they're mishandling it. They actually just do a very good job of it. I don't know I mean, I guess I can take a little bit of credit for that, and I think, well, of course.
Lisa:Yeah. I I think all the adults in their lives can take credit for that. I think we're very blessed that they've been surrounded by very healthy adults with good habits. Even their grandparents will take them out for fast food on, like, a grandparent's day, and the kids will they love the fast food because they get a toy, but they don't eat the fast food. So, they still would rather have something cooked from home.
Lisa:So I'm I'm very I'm very grateful and thankful for that. They don't they've seen soda, they've taken sips of soda, but they don't ask for soda. So, I, you know, I I think I think the modeling of the behavior in adults around them has done everything to keep them healthy and in check and active. But even just me taking them to the gym on workout days with you, and they're active while we're active. So I'm really I think it has everything to do as we talk about conscious collaboration.
Lisa:It's surrounding yourself with people that you want to see your kids model their behavior.
Emily:Yeah. Totally. And, you know and, that's definitely not always the case. As far as, you know, every person that they have, continuous exposure to being, you know, really truly living, you know, a healthy lifestyle. It's a spectrum, of course.
Emily:And, you know, I don't well, I don't think, well, nope. That's that's wrong. She's she's been exposed definitely to all all places on the spectrum of of healthy living. And so I've I've found it more of a of a challenge in some regards. But I think that yeah.
Emily:Obviously, the the modeling of it, the, you know, normalizing, like, we move our bodies in some way every day. We do stuff to get strong. We do stuff to go outside and and walk and and, you know, normalizing that is is very important. And I think even if you only have one, you know, household really modeling that, I think it's it's super helpful. And I would think that and I think that the same kinda goes for the food because you you can't control what other people, when you're not with them, are offering your kid and you, you know, maybe for a time you can control whether they take it or not, but but not really.
Emily:Right? And, so I think instilling that habit, I think, of eating the healthy food first. In particular, you know, I think we we shift this right from the adults to the kids. Some of my favorite advice, right, or one of my favorite hacks to tell people is is to seek out the protein first. And, you know, even if you eat something sweet after that, you'll be way less likely to overeat on something sweet.
Emily:And, and of course I'm not telling the kids all this about blood sugar and stuff, but it will also then dampen that, that subsequent blood sugar and insulin response, so that you're not having these big spikes and dips and crashes and and the, negative symptoms that kinda go along with that. And then, you know, continuously doing that to your body day after day after day and creating that insulin resistant state. So I like to latch on to that, like, hey. Eat eat some protein first and it'll help you feel more full when you eat your sweet. And, yeah, just normalizing that.
Emily:Okay. We gotta we gotta get our nutrition needs met first and then we can look at the treat. Right? And and trying not too much to demonize anything, or, you know, get too too much into the morality, like good food, bad food, that kind of thing, or or definitely not leaning into, like, a a restriction type of mindset because just like with adults that will then perpetuate a more binge type of of response, ultimately. So I think, yeah, I like that too, just kind of instilling this policy of we eat our healthy food first, we eat our protein first, we make sure our needs are met first and then we can, we can look at the treat, you know, if, and so I, while it, does it work all the time when she's not with me?
Emily:No, it doesn't. But I've, especially lately, you know, heard her, kinda, you know, repeating these things and and making the choices that way. And, you know, I'm gonna have this, piece of turkey first, then I'll have the waffle kind of thing because I know it'll help me feel full and feel better and and I won't just keep wanting more and more and more waffles kind of thing. So, I think that's a really good strategy. And kinda to touch on what you said too, by the way, guys, yes.
Emily:We're we're we're both still learning always. We're always still learning. I, by no means, even though I am, you know, in the nutrition and health and fitness space, I am no means an expert on how we do this with our kids. I wanna I wanna be in the conversation, you know, just just as much as as anybody else. I just think it's really important, but, that's one strategy that I've used for sure.
Emily:And, you know, I kinda wanna get into, like, if if somebody's listening to this and and they haven't made this transition or they're trying to make maybe they're trying to make the transition to a healthier life for themselves. Right? And there's just probably a lot of people in this situation. They've got a kid or they've got children already who are used to one lifestyle and now, you know, transitioning the whole family, into into another lifestyle, can can be even more challenging. And I would say maybe I experienced that on a, on a slight level because we definitely, when Olivia was born and when she was a baby and stuff, I didn't have the same grasp on on what real health was as as I do now.
Emily:So, you know, you kinda let some of those other things creep in there. But it's a challenge. You know? It's especially a challenge if they're already used to to eating one way and then and then moving into another way. And I think that's where a lot of people sort of fall off the wagon because, you know, it it it could involve some nights of, like, refusing to eat or, you know, arguments, fights, you know, they're not gonna like it.
Emily:They're not gonna like it. So, trying to find a way to to ease that transition so that people don't just say screw it and and, you know, drop out of the game completely and just go back to to the way it was. And that resonates with me because I've I've had to, you know, on more than a handful of occasions, resort to the convenience food of, you know, whatever that may be, whether it's I had to get something from a gas station or a fast food, you know, had to figure out some kind of solution, in a moment where, you know, maybe I was tired, I had a million things to do that day, whatever the case may be. I was traveling and, so then, you know, it just comes to, like, okay, well, I just have to feed the kid, like, you know, how are we gonna do this? So finding finding strategies to to mitigate that and and having them ahead of time, I think is super important so that when you're in that moment, you've, you know, you've already got the tools to kinda guide your family through through the transition.
Emily:And I think talking about things in a way that's not good or bad or demonizing or whatever is important. I think talking about things, in in a positive light of, like, all the all the sort of wins or the positives that you get from, you know, really feeding yourself nutritious food, from moving your body, from touching nature, you know, from from turning the devices off every now and again, connecting with friends, just playing. Right? Just playing like a normal kid. I think highlighting the positives, of all that is a is a really good way to to kinda ease that transition.
Lisa:Yeah. I mean, definitely, I think, you know, I don't know about you, but I have some of the best conversations with the kids taking them to school and, bringing them home from school and asking them, you know, how are their friends, what are their situations. And, you know, kids notice in each other their habits. So I've had my kids worry about someone that doesn't have food or, not making healthy choices or, you know, that type of discussion happens and just asking more what they're what they think about it. They know a lot more than what I even realized, and I realized they also help each other a lot.
Lisa:Like, there is, you know, I think the new generation doesn't get a lot of credit for being as loving and caring and supportive as they really are. Because I think a lot of older generations always look down on the newer generations like, oh, they're a lost cause. They're just gonna ruin everything. But this one really just seems so genuine and caring, so much more. I don't know when that change happened, but they they seem to have concern for someone that's struggling.
Lisa:That I'm really hopeful for, but, you know, aside from the nutrition, you know, at least in my own kids, there's just such a more mature awareness of anxiety and, you know, a lot of the vanity stuff that we talk about, measuring up in these ways. So, you know, really and I don't do the best job of it. There's talking about devices. But I try to watch shows with my kids, you know, if they're watching something on YouTube to be aware of it. You know, not, not so much to restrict them, but to ask some questions like, why are you interested in this?
Lisa:Like, what is what is going on here? What do you think about that? Do you think that's real? Because they're gonna find it somewhere, in my opinion. They all talk, they speak this language that we don't understand.
Lisa:I know there's been a lot of social media with, the jokes around trying to decode this language that the kids have developed. It makes no sense. I heard some of it, you know, at the sleepover party when we were hanging out. I was like, what are the what is this? They have their own language.
Lisa:And we did. We had our own language when we were that age. But, you know, I think in terms of being an entrepreneur, visionary, change maker, like, we're super busy and the world's so chaotic and we're working 20 fourseven a lot of times, even if we're not working some part of this is. And, just trying to find ways to be fully present with the kids, to make sure that they feel supported and connected and, that they're visible and that we trust them to make that decision. I think
Emily:Yeah. Yeah. That is that is important. I think, that once you've given them the information, right, that you convey to them, that you trust them to to make the right decisions, for themselves. I think that's a good point.
Emily:Mhmm.
Lisa:So, I mean, I'm I'm pretty hopeful for the future. You know, we're always wondering if the kids are okay, given that we're so subject to so much chaos and anxiety as adults. Like, are our kids gonna be okay? Like, they're witnessing this. I think they are gonna be okay, but, but we can do a better job for ourselves and for them, you know, in trying to let go of our attachment to busyness and Mhmm.
Lisa:Really centering back in on what's, what's important, for us in terms of holistic health. Are we you know, to your point, are we I'll I'll reflect back on this. So, like, even me as I was, like, rehabbing my shoulder this summer, my kids were aware of that. Like, I took them to appointments in the morning. They did the extra exercises with me, you know, just to see, you know, that, yeah, sometimes we're gonna fall apart a little bit and we need to put extra focus to be build.
Lisa:And, that, you know, I always say to them and I am an older mom, you know, I didn't have my kids until late thirties early forties, but, you know, let's we're doing these things active so we can live longer together. Mhmm. And be more active together, and that really speaks to them. They know that's important. They know they wanna be, strong enough to be able to help each other, and they they're in support of me being healthy and active so I can live with them longer and stay with them longer.
Emily:And I think using those words is important too, you know, strong, healthy, active, as these, like, you know, really positive words and and what we seek to to strive for because, you know, when when we were growing up, a lot of us, you know, had had the gym lived in a generation where our we heard a lot about that. You know, maybe our mom was always on a diet or talking about diet or talking about weight, and and talking about, you know, health. I'm using quotations here. Health because weight on the scale alone in either direction is not, the only indicator of health by any means. But, you know, this sort of weight and and diet obsession that that we grew up around.
Emily:You know, unfortunately now it it kinda falls on us to to steer the the ship back in the right direction. So I think using these positive words of vitality, around, you know, why we're doing what we're doing is super important, you know, like Popeye Popeye with the spinach.
Lisa:Yeah. Oh, Popeye with spinach. Strong. Right? There's, you know, also, I I think you do this with Olivia as well too.
Lisa:A lot of times at home, I'll put on the radio, and we'll listen to music sometimes and do, like, our little dance parties and stuff because practicing the movement that everybody recommended over the summer more with the kids. But I do play for them a lot of positive. There's some podcast I listen to, that do a lot of really good, positive scripting around. For example, this morning, we were listening to, like, all the reasons why you should take the courageous path and the comfort path. So we listened to that as we were getting ready, and they were asking questions about that.
Lisa:And a lot of that talk was around, you know, you're gonna be in uncomfortable situations. And if you're not in uncomfortable situations, it means you're not necessarily growing. And do you always just wanna be comfortable, or do you want to be brave? And so we were talking about that in terms of school because both of them, you know, and Olivia too, back to school, new grade, new situations, new sports, new activities. And these little kids have heavy anxiety around stuff.
Lisa:Everybody know, like, what? An 8 year old with anxiety? Well, yeah. It's a thing. But, you know, so I try to, in the environment, expose them to things that are, you know, not just pop music I think a lot of the pop music is good, but also just more mind, you know, I don't wanna say I'm not trying to brainwash them, but more positive words.
Emily:But the content that you consume around them, yeah, they're they're consuming it too. You know? Even if they don't say anything at the time, you know, they're soaking everything up, like a sponge. So I think that's super important. You know?
Emily:And sometimes maybe it's love is blind. But most of the time, you know, if if that's like
Lisa:But you can always have a conversation.
Emily:I just said that because that's actually Olivia put it on one day, and I'm like, you like the show. I mean, it's I did get sucked into it a little bit. I I'm not gonna lie. I got sucked into it.
Lisa:It's in a lot of people's households, and if she's at someone else's house even and watching it, it's a pop culture thing. But, like, even that kind of stuff, you can talk about healthy relationships. And
Emily:Yeah. Exactly. And, yeah. Right. It gives you an opportunity to talk about it even if it's, like, not how you would want them to to think and do and behave.
Emily:So even if yeah. I guess even if the content isn't the the greatest, like, yeah. It's also, like, I don't think that sheltering from everything is the answer either. I think you're exactly right. It's being a participant in that and and talking about it.
Emily:And then again, trusting them to make the right decisions. That was that was always kind of the policy that my parents had for me around music and TV and stuff like that. They never really censored what I consumed, but they would I mean, and maybe they wouldn't sit there and talk to me about the DMX CD that I was playing, you know, while I was getting ready for for school. But but they would talk to me about life things and then say, okay. Well, you know, you know that you're not supposed to, like, go sell drugs and commit violence.
Emily:So, okay, listen to the listen to the music. Right. Do you, but, you know, we trust you, to make the right decisions out here in these streets. And I thought that was I mean, arguably, I turned out alright. Right?
Lisa:Yeah. I think so. I mean, I'm still grow I think I'm always gonna feel like I'm growing up in some way, but it's not just about, making rules for the kids. It's also about empowering them because we know we're not always gonna be there. Mhmm.
Emily:And we know, like, time and time again, this is just human nature. If you ban, demonize, restrict, right, make a big deal about not doing something, the rebellious nature is going to come out at some point, and they're gonna go do the thing even harder. If you never let your kids see a slice of pizza, right, or have a piece of cake at a birthday party, like when they do get out of your reins, it's just gonna be, you know, all hell's gonna break loose. So Even so then rebellion, I
Lisa:think, is the restriction on on thing or demonizing things, it creates shame for them when they do consume Yeah. Whatever it is. Right. Right.
Emily:They'll hide stuff. Yeah.
Lisa:It's there's craving something they shouldn't have and then eating it and then being shameful, which is, like, the lowest vibration you'd be in. Yep. And then to come out of that, it is, you know, especially for a little one that's not getting support and help and you have no awareness around it. It's probably gonna live in a low vibration for a while.
Emily:And a lot of us can connect with that as adults. You know what I mean? I I have I have moved through a lot of, relationship with food issues, but I've definitely had them in my life. I think that was an important part of my experience so that I I have that experience as I'm interacting with clients who are going through these same things. But, I mean, that that is a that is a process that a lot of adults can relate to that sort of shame and the hiding and the the demonizing and the the morality, around around food or habit, any sort of health related habits working out, not working out, you know, whatever.
Emily:And, you know, if if it like, we we can resonate with how hard that is now. And so just if we're if we're set up that way from childhood, like, it's it's a programming that's gonna be really hard to deprogram, the more we kinda hammer that in. So, you know, I don't have all the solutions, but I think it's really important just to to have the conversation. I think it's important to have the conversation with other parents. I think it's important to have the conversation with non parents.
Emily:Because and to be honest, a lot of the things that we're talking about, I mean, can apply directly even to people who don't have kids. Because because it does start with modeling it yourself. And, you know, just because you don't necessarily have someone that lives with you to model it for, does that mean that that you're just not gonna bother to to take that healthy path? You know?
Lisa:Well, if we desire any hope for the future, even if we have kids or not, and the kids are watching everybody Kids
Emily:are watching everybody. Right. So if the majority is is still, you know, on that other then it just normalizes. It normalizes.
Lisa:They're the ones that are gonna be taking care of us when we're over. For health For metabolic health.
Emily:Right. And, and are they are they gonna be able to do that if they're in poor health themselves at a much earlier age? So we gotta we gotta pay attention to this stuff, and, we gotta start having the conversations with other adults and with our kids and, and really owning that responsibility to model better habits and behaviors as a society for ourselves and for our kids and for the future of everything that we're trying to build, by being these thought leaders, change makers, and entrepreneurs in the first place.
Lisa:Yeah. Who are we gonna pass the baton to? Mhmm. Well, yeah. I'm curious to hear what everybody thinks at home, if it resonates with them in any way.
Lisa:You know, and certainly, I can understand there's a lot of people who are gonna say there there's a reason why I chose not to have children. But we all exist in a society, and we can all recognize there's a great need, to uplift everybody as a whole, includes the children and those that, that are modeling after our own behavior. And all we can do is is try our best with better awareness, I think. But I would love to hear everyone's personal experiences. Maybe we can continue the discussion inside of conscious collaboration collective, the close and private Facebook group and have that discussion there.
Lisa:What does that look like for you as you're out and about with friends, coworkers, you know, even I'm just so pleased to see so many people are bringing so many entrepreneurs are involving their kids. Mhmm. You know, the education starts before school that you can have an entrepreneurial mindset, and this is how we do it, and it can start when you're as young as our kids. Mhmm. Mhmm.
Emily:Yeah. Let's hear it. I wanna hear other people's strategies and and, kind of what they think.
Lisa:Yeah. And I still have a lot to learn. So Mhmm.
Emily:Yeah. For
Lisa:sure. But, so I'm looking for those tips too from everybody out there. And
Emily:Let's be the change makers on this one. This is this is worth this is worth being a changemaker on.
Lisa:Yes. For sure. For sure. Mhmm. It's been good.
Lisa:I'm excited to go pick my kids up from school. They're big listeners of the podcast, by the way. So one day, we'll have them.
Emily:Our our littlest, biggest fans?
Lisa:Yes. Our littlest littlest, biggest friend. Well, yeah, they will one day, we'll have that bring a kid to to work today. Yeah. Have them have them in the discussion.
Lisa:But, yeah. The kids are watching, guys.
Emily:Mhmm. Creepy. They are.
Lisa:They can be very creepy.
Emily:The kids are creepy and they're watching.
Lisa:Sometimes they tap you on the shoulder. Yes. Very scary.
Emily:Olivia prides herself on on being creepy. So
Lisa:I know They they get a kick out of it.
Emily:You could be creepy. Just eat your protein first.
Lisa:Oh, yes. She does a good job of it. She does. She does. Alright, guys.
Lisa:So thanks, Emily. Thanks everybody for listening. We appreciate you liking, sharing, and subscribing with your friends and your family, and maybe even sit down and listen with your little one. Mhmm. Alright.
Lisa:Talk to y'all in 5. Talk to you in 5. Bye.
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