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Welcome back to the I DO IQ podcast, Brock here with a very special guest today, a wedding planner here in the area. Her name is Patty Bogar Bogar. There we go. Welcome to the show, my friend. Thank you. So it's Bogar Wedding Company? Yes. Okay. Mm-hmm. Easy breezy. Well, glad you're, you were able to come in on and be on the uh, show today.
I appreciate being here. Thank you. So, before we get into anything about you and your company. I have the top five slogans for brands advertising at weddings. So tell me what you think of these. 61% of Americans would let a corporation sponsor their wedding, and these are some fun slogans that if you had these, uh, companies sponsor you, they could be written on napkins or somewhere on the dance floor, a a light right on the dance floor that says Botox the diamond is your.
The diamond in your ring is fake. Let the rest of your face join it. No Southwest because sitting through the maid of honors drunken Toast makes you. Wanna get away? That's perfect. You know Spotify, no one should have to listen to a cover band, perform Air Supply Chad GBT, this wedding, brought to you by Chad, GBT.
Your vows will still suck. We'll make them suck a little less. That's the one a vow. Treks, the only thing from a bachelor party that should last forever are the memories. Correct Aflac. Nana will need supplemental coverage after she naps her hip doing the chicken dance. Wait after she's, lemme start that again.
Aflac Nana will need supplemental coverage after she snaps her hip doing the chicken dance. And finally, Trojan, you just made one giant mistake in your life, will keep you from making another. That is a good one. I like that one. Trojan, we don't wanna make that second mistake on your wedding night.
Alright, Patty, I'm back to you. Thank you for indulging me. So you've been in the wedding industry for about two years, but you've been thinking about the wedding industry since you were 14. That's right. So tell us about that. What was it at 14 that you're like. I think I wanna be in this business. You know, I was always a hopeless romantic.
I loved how to lose a guy in 10 days. That's a good movie. Yeah. I loved my Best Friend's Wedding. Julia Roberts being here. Yeah, in there's supposed to be a second one being made. Oh, I haven't, I haven't even heard that. My best Friend's Wedding part two. I believe there's a second one coming out. That's interesting.
Just made your day. Yeah, you did. I had no idea. Okay, go ahead. So actually in eighth grade, I grew up here in Rogers. Actually where the promenade is now. So kind of a full circle moment, which is, I was reading that on your website. That in general, where in the promenade area was that? The whole land. So it was 500 acres on both sides of the highway, which is where everything is now.
Correct. And our house was right at Champions and Northgate. So think about like the Theo's parking lot. No way. Mm-hmm. And you lived, you had all that, there was nothing there. Was the highway even there yet? Yes, the highway was there. Okay. So, but that, I mean, the highway was newer within the last 30 years, I think.
35 years. So you probably didn't get to see it before then. I'm a little bit older. Yeah. But you lived right there. Mm-hmm. The amp was on your mm-hmm. Acreage. Oh, yeah. Every time I go to oh, to a concert there, I'm always like, wow, this is incredible. My sister and I used to ride our horses right here to this fence line.
No way. Right here to this fence line and would wave at cars. Yeah. It was, and now it's all built up. Developed. Yeah. I hope your, was it your dad that owned it? So it was actually the Rife Ranch. My dad managed it for, for 21 years. Okay. So I'm sure they made a lot of money. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. And then she, that real little piece of real estate right there where the hospital is, she donated all of that land.
Oh, wow. Mm-hmm. That's, that's incredible. Okay. So you grew up there. Yes, but while I was in school, we got to career shadow in eighth grade. Uh, and I actually went to, she said yes to career shadow and that's just really what set it off for me. And so then as I got into the industry, I started with styled shoots and just really networking with other vendors.
Uhhuh and I started going to, she said Yes, which is now relocated. Right. On our old property, which is, it's a full circle moment. Truly. That is really, really cool. Yeah. So that's just kind of where it was just, I don't know. It's very fulfilling for me and it gives me so much purpose in life, and it just brings me so much joy that that's, I just, I knew that this is what I was supposed to be doing.
So why did you choose wedding planning over working at a shop, a bridal shop, or doing something else? I love. To be the calm and the chaos. I work best under pressure Uhhuh and being the one that everyone else can rely on and just being organized in all of it. So that just really, I don't know, I just really like to be the word I'm looking for.
Can we edit this? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Cut it out. Um. Like the backbone. I like to be the structure for everyone else, so we know that like if the bones are good, then the rest is gonna be great. Isn't that a song? The bones are good. Yeah. Married. I know. Now you said it best that and, and you, and you gave the best reason why couples should hire a wedding planner because.
You take all the stress away. You, you are the backbone. You work well under pressure. Mm-hmm. When you're hiring or not hiring, when you're having a friend or your aunt or your mom or you yourself as the bride trying to do your own wedding and planning it gets stressful. Yeah. And moms and and aunts don't know how to handle that.
They freak out. We've done so many weddings as DJs where they're like, you know, we need to do this. No. Uh, we, this is not, and we're like, Hey, you go sit down. Yeah. We, we'll help you with this. Like weddings are what we do and when you have a wedding planner, they can sit down and not have to worry about anything.
Right. Which is the best part. Yeah. And I, I often find myself telling other people while I'm doing their wedding, I don't want your family to have to do what I do. Right. Like, I get fomo, I miss out on moments. And I, I've only known you for a year, but like, I don't want your family or best friend to miss out on key moments.
On your big day. You should definitely hire someone else to do it. Do you ever have, or have you ever had a couple that just, they wanted to have their hand in everything and you're like, why did you even hire me? If you're trying to do it all yourself, not necessarily the couple, it's usually. The mothers of the bride or like a, I was about to say, or mom, it's either that a best friend from out of town or a sister.
I remember one wedding where I had to, you know, I did all the florals for the wedding and we were working with thousands of stems of roses. You do florals as well? I do. What don't you do? We were talking up the air. I know. And you do about 50 things. I love flowers so much. Okay, so, and that's just kind of.
One of the things I started when I was in college, I was working for a florist and it's just the most, and I was actually a delivery driver, like delivering florals. And whether it's giving someone flowers on Valentine's Day or even delivering flowers for a funeral uhhuh, which is, you know, it's a bummer, but still it's, I just the impact that flowers holds.
Yeah. For people that sentiment. The way that it made me feel was the same way that it made me feel whenever I was bartending at a local venue, I would pick up extra shifts to work weddings. So I was already had the experience just from that aspect. So your wedding planner, you can do floral, you bartended.
Don't, you haven't DJ'ed one, have you? No. It's a steal yet. Not yet. Not yet. Like what else have you not done? Yeah. You know. Well, and that's, you know, I've lived life. I like to like figure things out. I just feel like everything is kind of temporary. Yeah. Until you realize like what you're really in this life for and for me, like that's the weddings.
Like I love doing this. You know, what I like, um, is that you've done. A lot of the other parts of weddings that you as a planner are higher out. So, you know what it's like on that side. It's like being a school teacher. Mm-hmm. Um, it's like being a principal at a school, but have never been a school teacher.
Mm-hmm. You don't see it from every angle, and I'm sure that helps you out with, you know, the hiring of the vendors and mm-hmm. And, and stuff like that. Yeah. I mean, as a bartender, I was the one. Spending over the sink at the end of the night, washing all the dishes by hand, cleaning up all the messes, the tables spinning, all the decor back.
So I've, and now I, I'm not above that. Like I love to be busy and work, but I also love the structure and being able to be on the other side of it and do what I love no matter what and just help a couple. So you're, you say you're a never ending, hopeless, romantic, and. You have that era going on, how do you inject that sense of romance into the, uh, logistical, nitty gritty side of planning a wedding?
What do you mean? Like, just like how do you inject your, your never ending, hopeless, romantic era into weddings, help the couple to see what you see. So it's all about the bigger picture. Mm-hmm. So, and then. I also kind of like, I see a lot of couples also being tested during these times. Like is this something that we're going to be able to work through and navigate?
Like I can really tell like if they're gonna not necessarily be a good match, but like yeah, how we problem solve together. And mostly like I'm here to curate a wedding that they want. As far as like, I do everything from day of coordination to full planning design, but I really have them nail it down, like as far as if they don't really know where it's going, we've gotta have a color palette to start with.
Like what florals do, like, you know, like an overall. I'm a very visual person. Mm-hmm. So we start with a Pinterest board and we start pinning things and we really get down very concise to what they really, really want and I help bring that to life. Right. As far as style of their wedding gowns or, you know, we go cake tasting and we go, you know, over to sous chef.
Shout out there Oh, love, love me some sous chef. Yeah. So. That's just kind of where I just try to bring everything back in, reel it all back in. Like, this is your day. I want it to be everything that you want, and this is where we're gonna be celebrating you guys. So. Right. So what do you do as a wedding planner if they have a luxury vision on a non-luxury budget?
I hope they have a lot of friends that help. DIY. Yeah. No, uh, like how do you reign them in and, and be like. All right. I see your vision, but you don't necessarily need this or this or this. Yeah. We can do this instead. Mm-hmm. How, how do you handle that? I help them prioritize like, what are the most important things to you that we accomplish?
So if these are, you know, if we wanna say, like, for example, yes, photography, but as far as like florals, uhhuh, we want real florals everywhere, then that's what we go for, and the rest is. What we work with. Right. So, and it's not gonna just be thrown together. Like we have so many great vendors in northwest Arkansas and beyond uhhuh, that we can always accomplish anything that they want.
But I mean, so far I feel like very blessed. I have a lot of very levelheaded spreadsheets, brides. Oh yeah. And that, like, I haven't really had to reel anyone back. And they, I feel like they're more of like a realist, kind of like they're not. Out in La la Land? I don't think so. Yeah. Not so like, so far so good.
It's good. Yeah. I, I'm sure we've had some, but they don't deal with that on our end. Mm-hmm. Just the wedding planner deals with that. So you not only do full service packages, you also do partial planning as well. Tell me about that. Yeah, so it just really, and I like to the word. Not curate. It's a like, like a bespoke wedding package.
Okay, well what's that? So where you tell me what you need, Uhhuh and I'm your grill. No matter, like whatever it is, we're gonna get it figured out. We're gonna like, I just need to know like lots of details, how many people I need to bring with me. Uhhuh, we're gonna have it, we're gonna have it figured out.
Like I don't typically do trash removal, but if you need someone to help you out, in a rare instance that happens. Yeah. We can make it work. Right. So I like that. I I say the same thing. We'll make it work. Yeah. We can, we can make anything work. And some planners say, oh, we do day of, it's not really a thing.
Because you're with them a little bit longer than just 'cause you need to know more information. That's true. It's more like four weeks out. Yeah. Like month of planning. Yes, exactly. Month of, yeah, because I mean, I'm, I'm a communications major, Uhhuh, so I'm big on communicating with vendors. Obviously you wanna make sure everyone is arriving on time.
Right. But just, I always ask like really important questions, even just during our first meetup that they haven't thought of and. Typically sells them on me, just based off my knowledge of the industry and things I've learned from my experiences, things that have gone wrong. The first few weddings, I'm like, this is never happening again.
Yes, this is going to be on a questionnaire and really get them thinking about who is going to be responsible for turning off the floodlights Right. During our first stance. Yeah. Or who is cutting the cake? Or boxing the cake. Yeah. Is there a box, you know, for the cake? So some things they just don't think about.
Yeah. Unless, and if they don't have a planner, they would never think about it Exactly. Until it's time to do it. And they're like, oh yes, we do need a, a, a cake, uh, cutter. Mm-hmm. We do need this. We do this. Exactly. Like, oh, we thought you did that. Mm-hmm. No. Mm-hmm. Like, we've done weddings, we're DJs, we're supposed to entertain.
And they didn't have somebody to cut the cake, and the cake just happened to be right next to us. We cut the whole cake. Yep. And I'm not even good at cutting cake. Yeah. Well, but they didn't have anybody else. I know. I used to have my sister always cut my son's birthday cake. Yeah. Like on Christmas Eve.
I'm like, like, get what you get. Just get over here. And now I'm like, here we go. Like I am a cake cutting connoisseur. Yeah. We, the good vendors chip in, in areas that they're not hired to, to be there. You know what I mean? Oh yeah. We are much more than what you hire us for. Right. So, how do you balance?
No, that's not the question. So for a coup, so for a couple who is on the fence about, uh, the help that they need, what's the biggest value add of having a planner involved with day one versus, you know, the final month, like hiring you from the beginning versus the end? So we're gonna be the ones to, or I guess I shouldn't say we, it should be me, right?
Well, just if you have a team Yeah, that's true. You can just say, yeah. Okay. So we're gonna be you. It's kind of like a craft project. You can have all the pieces Uhhuh, but without the hot glue, what's gonna happen or Right. Maybe I'm more like Hobby Lobby. I don't know. I have all the pieces you need. Yeah.
And we're gonna make it all come together regardless. Uhhuh. So, and it's totally okay to just do day of coordination versus full planning design. Again, that's more, I think of a budget thing and how big, but. Beginning to end, I can, I really get to know my people and their preferences for one, and.
It's better just because it's just more, I don't know, linear instead of just like thrown in in the middle, which I'm also really good at. Yeah. I know some planners that hate, they will not, they won't do day off or they jump in and they're like, why did they hire this person? Yeah. How did they get this?
Yeah. Ugh. Yeah, it just may. Honestly, it's like a book. You don't start the book in the middle. True. Unless there's pictures, I guess. I don't know. Then you just don't read, look at read. You just look at the pictures. Like my kid, he's like starting the book from the back because he likes the back picture the best.
Yeah, it just makes the most sense to have a planner from beginning to end to get all your ducks in a row. Yeah. You know, you just really want everything to be easy for you. If you're going to throw money at it at all, you might as well really invest and. Enjoy the process of your planning. Yep. Not just rush through it or make impulsive decisions.
Mm-hmm. And have someone to read between the lines or maybe pick up, like maybe you missed a detail. I actually had this happen, I was a day of coordinator for a wedding in Little Rock and. I had nothing to do with this. I will take accountability as always if I need to, but something was completely off.
It was the seating chart and there were, but you didn't make it. I didn't, no. And I didn't ever see it even before the day. Right. But it's something that I would've definitely notice. I'm very detail oriented, so there weren't enough tables. But again, like I had to improvise, like right on the spot, figure it out.
We brought in cocktail tables that had family. This was actually a different cultural. Culture wedding. So we made it work and then we ended up having the correct amount of tables, but the seating chart was messed up and it wasn't something that was taken lightly. Oh, and did they blame you? Um, or did they try to blame you?
They did try, but this was kind of like. Something that had already been talked about with the vendor and they told me already, like some issues that had arose. Oh wow. So anyway. Yeah. That's tough. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So it's just one of those you, I don't know, I just always try to go in with like, I don't know, a positive attitude as always.
Yeah. To, and just do the best that I can. And if someone, yeah. That's what makes the day of hard. Yeah. 'cause you're like, this is not on, yeah. I just came into this to help. Yeah. This is not on me. That's why like. As far as the DJ company, we don't have packages. Yeah, sure. Mainly for the one reason of we wanna bring everything to the wedding, that's the best.
Mm-hmm. Because the guests who are there, like say the couple's like, yeah would it be cheaper if we don't have lights? We're like, okay, sure. You, you know, if we had packages. Yeah. If you don't have lights, it's this much. If you don't do this. So when you go to an event and the guests are there, they look and like.
Why doesn't the DJ have lights? Yeah. Yeah. Why is the DJ have this? Why does he have that? I'm like, I say that you wanna put your best foot forward every time. So when they look at you, they're not like, oh, there must not be a good dj. 'cause they don't know that you have packages. You know what I mean?
Mm-hmm. DJ was good, but he didn't have lights. That's just one example. You know what I mean? Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah. And I think starting out, 'cause I'm actually about to rebrand, so, okay. What's the rebrand? It's, oh, does this, it's, yeah. Be on the Lookout News. Yeah. Yes. Breaking news. I am gonna rebrand.
I don't know, I might change my name. Everything will be redirected, so if you go to my website, you'll still be with me. But I don't know. What's it gonna be? What's it gonna be? I don't know yet. Oh, we don't even have an idea. No, we do, but we're just still like, I just met with a marketing manager like LA on New Year's Day, so we had brunch at First watch and Oh, we're just talking over all the details, but I wanted to come Okay, because I don't wanna wait.
Like I wanna, so what's the, what is the what is the reason for the rebranding? Just to feel more like me and like my growth and just the clientele that I really uhhuh wanna pursue. Um, and I really wanna be a world traveler. Yeah. Yeah. So I wanna travel for my weddings and Yeah. I think kind of where you had said like, we're not gonna be packages, right.
It's gonna be more specific. Yeah. Um, what, uh, are you gonna get rid of your name or. Possibly, possibly the name. So one of the worst things I ever did was name my company Brock Entertainment. Yeah. That, I mean, 'cause then when you grow Yeah. Especially in a, in an industry like this, when it's your name, people are like, we want you.
Mm-hmm. I see. Oh, you're not coming to my wedding. I know. I've got that a lot on my weddings, Brock. Yeah. And you're like, well I have five weddings today. I can't just come to your wedding. You, you hire everyone named Brock. Right. Only Brock's, they have to change your name. It's like Negan on the Walking Dead.
We are Negan. Yeah. Perfect. But yeah, I had to put that in my contract about 15 years ago. You're hiring Brock Entertainment, not Brock Short. Sure. Because at the time people knew me from the radio and were like, oh, we want you. I'm like, yeah, that. You can't grow if it's just you. Sometimes it's Bogger, sometimes it's company.
Yeah. In the last two years, my husband has been my CO of Bogger winning the co, so yeah. Yeah. I mean, that's smart. I'm a little too late to rebrand. Yeah. But yeah, and people are like, what? What if you wanna sell your company someday? I'm like, that'd be tough, because I'd be giving away my name. Yeah. Like, uh, yeah.
Enough about me. So a rebrand, we will announce that as soon as you figure it out. Yes. That's, that will be exciting. I'll come back on because I'm sure you're planning to grow, so where it's not just you, you have a team, you have, you know. Yeah. And more like maybe not just weddings. Yeah. Maybe some nice events here and there.
So have you not delved into the event space yet? I've worked for, I did a birthday party. What was the age? It was like a child. It was a 9-year-old birthday party. Okay. Last year. Pretty intense. It was fun. Shark do doo I probably won't ever do that again. Okay. Um, not my thing, but like where was the party at?
It was at the Walmart. Like the, like activity center. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. The Bentonville, the community center. I mean, it was fun. It was nice. So we've done, we've done a lot of parties there, but we've done some like two, three, 4-year-old birthday parties at like Pinnacle. Yeah. And you show up and you're like.
This is for a kid and it is, yeah. Decked out. Oh, yeah. Like I'm not spending this much money on my 4-year-old. Yeah. But I'll DJ it all day long. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Those are, yeah. Fun. Yeah. I mean, I've worked for other, another planner in the area for a couple different people. Yeah. Just to kind of. Help them fill in, but also it's kind of like a shadowing, learn experience and learn.
Yeah. And we did a private event for like a multimillionaire here in Bentonville and that was fantastic. That is more my, they're more laid back than weddings. Yeah. That's for sure. Yeah. More my pace of things. Yeah. Like I, I loved it. So I love corporate events. Yeah. Because it is more laid back. Mm-hmm. Um.
Yeah, it's just, and they, they're fun. Yeah. We did a cor, we did one for them and then it was, uh, like a private event, like at one of their houses here. And it was fantastic. That's cool. It was really cool. Yeah. You need to get into that area. That is, uh, a fun And the charity space is good too. Yes, I would love that.
So once you get weddings, all that other stuff is. Is easy mm-hmm. Planning. Mm-hmm. As far as that goes. 'cause you're not having to deal with a bride who you could ruin her whole day. Right. In her life. Yeah. So as someone deeply rooted in, uh, in northwest Arkansas how have you seen the local wedding scene change over the years?
As far as venues I mean. 10 years ago it was a lot of barns. Yeah. Yeah. There have been a lot of barns. I feel like there has definitely been an increase in wedding venues, Uhhuh. I actually am going to have a child shoot eventually planned out at a really nice venue here that I don't think has had a, well, that's not true.
I think they've had a wedding. What is it? The in school. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've de DJ'ed away in there a few years ago. Okay. Okay. So there have been weddings, but I think I'm gonna do a style shoot, but I kind of almost wanna make it more of like a vendor community dinner. Yeah. Do it with a shoot. So it's just right down the street.
Yeah. Yeah. We do a lot of school events there. I just booked, I've done two or three charity events there. Okay. My sister works there and it just one wedding. I love it. My first, we also did my, my husband's a metal fabricator. Yes. And I kind of. I messed around with marquee letters for a little bit, or I guess numbers he made.
He built them from me, and so my first actual like business check was from Theon and felt. That's cool. I felt so proud of myself for that. Yeah. Yeah. But it was really cool. I don't know, it was just as a small business, it's like, yeah. Yeah. You're like, wow. If you have something over there at Theon, let me know.
It's literally right down the street. Very convenient. Okay. Hey, what's a trend you're seeing that you saw in 2025? 2026? That you're really on board with a trend in weddings. Hold on, let me think about it. And right now. Or maybe. Or maybe a trend that you saw that you wish would go away. Yeah. Because you're not a huge fan of, I don't know.
Let's think. I dunno. I think I'm over disco balls right now. Disco balls. I think I am. Like I just Are people having disco balls? Yeah, I mean I do get asked if we have disco balls, like the clusters. We don't like the clusters and stuff. Yeah. I think this year more of like the classic white is coming back uhhuh and like all florals and I think that's really classy and beautiful.
The fruit. I feel like there's a been a big impulse of fruit. All kinds of different, I don't know, textures really and stuff. Yeah. And some of it, I liken some of it. Not a huge, you're not a fan, so what fruits don't you like? Well, I guess, I guess it's the, like ve, the random vegetables. Oh, don't put avocados at your wedding.
It looks like farmer. I love a farmer's market, don't get me wrong, but I just don't think it is. It goes, I think people are getting bored and just trying new, new, like, I haven't seen this at wedding New textiles. Yeah. So, what are some fruits that they could throw in there that you wouldn't see at a wedding?
Uh, could we get some edamame? Um, yeah. Could we get, uh, some star fruit? Nobody has star fruit. Yeah, right. Yeah. Vegetables, uh, Brussels sprouts. Throw some Brussels sprouts out there. I've seen it. Oh, wow. Uh, you mentioned on your site that you're eager to tailor services to couple's budgets. What's your best piece of advice for a couple?
Trying to have a luxury filling. A stricter, oh wait, we've already, we've already talked about that. You know, things rarely go a hundred percent perfect. On a wedding day, without naming names, tell us, uh, a fire you had to put out. At one of your weddings, did you ever have to put out one, like one of your first weddings?
Yes. You, some of the first weddings you learned some things. A bride tried to walk down the aisle without her bouquet. Okay? So I had to make a mad dash and we had to distract people. Hey, what's that? Takes us? Yeah. And then I will say another wedding. The cake pulled in. Like right at the turn, sharp turn.
No, the cake toppled over. No. And I told the driver, I was like, you have to go back immediately and fix this. Now. The bride never knew they came back. How close were they? It was really close. No, like how close were they to their No, they were, they were pulling into the venues. No, like, oh. To go back and fix it.
Because some are not close. No, it was, I mean, it was, I guess. 30 minutes. Okay. But still, yeah, that put them, I mean, she had no idea. No, I, I didn't let any, you know, that's, that's, that's my job. They shouldn't know. Yeah. Right. Yeah. So did she ever find out? Not for me. Okay. I think I like laughed it off later, after it finally arrived again, like all patched up, so, so, wow.
I would hate to be a cake person in general, but just a cake delivery person I know. Like, you gotta drive extra careful. That's the fun thing about our industry. Like we can pin out, like pinpoint everything else that we hate about everyone. Of what everyone else. True. But that's why it takes so many of us.
In this industry of like, you love what you do and I love what I do, and we don't wanna do cakes. Like, not at all. So, but I don't wanna do cakes. I don't wanna be a venue owner. Oh, I would love to own a venue. I mean, it sounds great until I think you own one and then you realize that's your whole life.
Yeah, that's true. And you're there all the time. Yeah, that's true. Like it's not, you just don't just own the venue like, oh, it's wedding day. You either hire somebody to take care of that, or you are the one that is there. Waiting for people to leave. Yeah, that's true. And then like coming back to lock up and make sure people haven't like, because you got another wedding in six hours.
Yeah, but that's the point I wanna get to. I think when I rebrand though, it'll be a certain amount of brides I take per year. Which sounds crazy for your wedding planning business or Yes. A venue. Yeah, because you gotta be booked up on that venue. No, for my, for my business. Okay. What's your goal? How many brides?
It just depends. A thousand, I don't know if this should be like a discussion, but a thousand a year. A thousand brides a year. A a year. I wanna do five brides a day. I don't know. I think like, like what would you like to do? I think once I get to like that point of my expertise and clientele that I'm like, Hey, I wanna do, or like specific seasons.
Yeah. You know, or like two a month. Like not even that. 'cause if it's Think about full, like step away. Yeah. Step away from day of Uhhuh and I'm only full planning design and we're starting 12 to 15 months out or more. Yeah. Like this is. My li like, your wedding is my life and everything is going into it.
Right. That's when you get a team and you can do more because the team is doing the same thing. Yeah. But I love it. I don't know, it just feels like art, like I feel like quantity, quality over quantity. Over quantity. Yeah. Yeah. I get that. Yeah. Um, I say that I don't wanna spread myself too thin. No, I get that.
I don't know, like I wanna still like really love it and then enjoy it and not just be like saying yes to everyone. 'cause I'm gonna get to the point where. You know. Oh, I get it. No, I've been doing this for 20 years, but I'm like, and I hate saying no. And I'm two years in. Yeah. And I'm like, I never say no.
I hate saying no. Like that's why we do over 500 events a year. That's insane. But it's a lot easier for what we do. We're not having to plan. Yeah. 15, 12, 15 months out. Yeah. It's true. It's much easier. Yeah. I saw you recently blogged about the Morgan and Sheldon wedding. Was there a specific detail from that wedding that really stands out as unique to their story?
Yeah, it was super cool. Where was that one at? So it was actually at Sassafras Springs. Love Sassafras. Yes. And so Morgan's family, she's on a horse ranch, which you're the horse girl I love. So literally our first meeting was in a barn. Oh, that's cool. In a horse barn. She invited me back. We went horseback riding.
It was, and you're like, I got this. Yeah. I'm like, it was amazing. So on their day, it was actually really neat. So their ceremony was longer than usual, and it was very specific because they ended up having a brand on a. On a, like a cow hide. And so they didn't brand each other. They didn't, not this wedding.
Oh, like it's worth it. I love you. I love you. Better than matching tattoos. Like, oh, it's a brand. It's like Yellowstone up in here. Oh yeah. And we kind of did it as like a passing of the torch or like baton, whatever, because the dad, I was like, what if we did it like this? And then the dad handed the groom.
The brand. So he is like kind of handing off like, here's my daughter. Oh, that's cool. Like now it's yours to take on the brand and take care of things. So yeah, I really, really liked that. It was different. That's really, and that was a sad surprise. It was. Yeah. Were there horses there? There weren't, she said she saw enough horses every day.
She didn't want a part of, but they did have two dogs. Okay. There were two dogs that I got to write like their little names on for their, they walked down the aisle with them. It was really sweet. So did you ever go to Pratt Place Barn when that was a thing in Fayetteville? It's now, isn't it? Stone breaker?
Yes. Yeah. I actually did an open house venue event there. So when Pratt Place was there before they had all that stuff built up around it. It had a little. Fenced in area where they would put horses. Oh, I love that. And so during your wedding there'd be horses just hanging out right there. I love it.
And now it's a com. I mean, it's the same venue, but different. Mm-hmm. Yeah. More modern. Yeah. Cool. Type of thing. Alright fun, rapid fire questions. Easy. Favorite wedding movie of all time? My Best Friend's Wedding. Okay. Uh, if you could plan a wedding for any celebrity, dead or alive. Who would it be? Elvis.
Really? His birthday's tomorrow. It is? Yes. I don't know. I felt like it was rapid fire. No, Elvis. I don't, why are you an Elvis fan? I just, yeah. I love Elvis. So this is funny. Not about Elvis, but a lady I met at a wedding show recently we're talking, I said, Hey, what's your story? How she was, this was a second wedding for her.
She was older. I'm like, how'd you meet your guy? She's like, well. Funny story. I was at a, a game night with a whole bunch of people and we were playing this game where they're like, if you could have dinner with anybody, who would it be? So people were like, oh, Jesus. Oh Elvis. Oh. And she goes, I go. Scott and pointed at him.
It was a guy there. That's so funny. She's like, I would wanna have dinner with Scott, and now they're engaged in getting married. I love it. Yeah, it's very, I was like, that is cool. That is cool. Like, she's like, yeah, I took a leap and it worked. He gave me his number, and now we're getting married. I love that.
All right. Cake or pie? Pie. What kind of. What's your favorite pie? Blueberry pie. Ooh. Like the yoders? Like blueberry. Blueberry or, uh, I like a peach cobbler. Mm. With some vanilla ice cream, but we just got outta the season of pecan pie. Oh, I love pecan. Yes. I'm glad you say PE pecan. My mom made me a pecan and I always hide it.
That's my favorite. So nobody else in the family can have it. I'm thinking like. Summer, but Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I love pecan. Pecan. Do you like pumpkin? I don't, no. Mm-hmm. It's, it's an acquired taste. I used to, my taste buds changed. Yeah. I used to be all pumpkin, and now it's, it's pecan for me. What, what about cheesecake?
I didn't used to like cheesecake, but Cheesecake factory has upside down pineapple cheesecake. Ooh. And that cheesecake is good. A lot of calories. Yeah. It hurts my stomach, but it's worth, it's worth it. All right. First dance song, classic or modern? Like what would you go with classic and what's the song you would go with?
Like classic? Did you have a first dance song at your wedding? So we actually elope to Florida. Okay. With our kids. So we have a blended family of six. Yeah. And so we kind of elope. We didn't elope. Yeah. But we had just a small ceremony with our family. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. And then we came back to the house. I love that.
No real reception. And my daughter's like, I wanna sing you guys the dance. A first dance song. Yeah. And it was a country song, which I'm not a country fan, but. It was my daughter, so that's sweet. I let her choose. But if you could have a first dance song, what would it be? I know gosh, I don't even know.
Do you have a song with your husband? It's probably like a Cody Johnson song. Okay. Yeah. So it would be a country song. Yeah. The one that Brimley my daughter picked was. That duet with, um, Blake Shelton and Gwen Stefani. Oh yeah. Yeah. It was a good song. Pretty. It's really pretty. But I'm like, and even Ashton's like really?
This one. I'm like, that's so funny. She's singing it. Just let her sing it. Yeah. It doesn't matter. That's sweet. All right, I got some, the wedding gauntlet, 50 rapid fire questions. I'm not gonna ask you 50. Okay. I'll just go through the list. Okay. And you can tell me from the wedding planner perspective, first look or traditional aisle reveal.
The traditional why that was like one of my like priority, have to have at my wedding. Okay. That's what I prefer because I don't know, I just, maybe it's more traditional and romantic to me in the sense that like we woke up, for example, in Florida, had brunch with our kids, Uhhuh, we went to go get our marriage license and then we split off.
So between it like. We have two girls, two boys that took the girls. We went to go do hair, makeup. The boys went fishing. Oh, nice. And then I came back to the condo, he hid, I gave him his little something blue, which was like Dolce Gabbana, like light blue. Nice. The gift. He took his kids to the beach, like where we were gonna meet.
And then actually the what are they called? The officiant? Yes, the officiant that make it official. The officiant came to pick me up and my son gave me away. Aw. So they were facing like the ocean when we walked up and then when he turned around it was like that first. That was the first, like that's what should be the first look.
Oh yeah. I love that. And I don't know, I wasn't, we weren't nervous at all that day. Like it was just, I don't know. It was perfect. So that's good. Yeah. Um, let's see here. The garter toss. Fun tradition or totally cringe. I think it's super cringey. So cringey. I don't like that. Guys don't like to do it. I don't even like the bridle.
I'm like, it feels like so inappropriate. Especially with like all of your family. I don't know. I don't like it. Yeah. What about the bridal toss? Hey, where's all those single ladies? Haha. Loser, single ladies. Oh, you know, it's just weird. Yeah, that is kind of cringey too. Yeah, get rid of that. I haven't even seen that.
Like I don't think I've seen that Good. I've seen the like bouquet dedication where they give it to their mom or something. Love that. Yeah, that's super sweet. Or just someone that's like very significant in their lives, so I love that. Okay. What about cake Smash in the face, do it or do not? It's kind of funny, but gross.
Yeah. Um, I say no because mess up your makeup, bridal makeup is so expensive. It is. And then like, I feel like guys get overstimulated and like just go too hard sometimes. Like, you know, like that's what she said. Don't say, all right. Uh, the bar open or cash. It just depends on the budget. I obviously like Right.
If you can afford it open Yeah, of course. But, but otherwise, like. I dunno. It can also be classy, like, just buy your own, you know, a couple glasses of wine. It depends on the crowd. Uhhuh, sometimes they like to shut it. I mean, I saw them like float to cake at one wedding. Oh yeah. So it's easy. It's cheaper to do beer and wine.
Yeah. Obviously. Yeah. And not do mixed drinks. Yeah, for sure. But yeah, if you can afford it, it is what it is. All right. Seating charts assigned or open for, for the reception? I think it's okay. If you want like a his or hers side, I don't think it necessarily needs to be assigned like seating. Yeah. With the reception.
Sit where you want. Yeah. Yeah. And like with like the ceremony, I think it's nice. It like, I think it looks nice to have specific people at a table, but like when you get down to like each person in this spot, right. That gets awkward. Yeah. I don't love it. It's tough. Yeah. Just let people be comfortable where they want to, who they wanna sit with.
Exactly. Uh, all right. Let's see here. Dinner style, plated meal or buffet line. I mean, I like a plated. That's really nice, but it just kind of depends on what, what you're wanting. I think people choose buffet again, because it's a budget thing though. Yeah. Yeah, it can be easier. Yeah. And you don't have to send out a card to everybody.
What are you gonna get? Chicken or fish or chicken or beef. But I don't know. I think it's, I don't know. I think plated is nice. Okay. What about this traditional cake, or not traditional having like a donut wall or pies? I like. Honestly, I like the non-traditional because I think it'd be, I don't know. I think it's super sweet when it looks like a family potluck and like grandma brings her banana pudding and like the desserts.
Like that's my favorite part. Getting to pick different desserts is the best. Yeah, like I don't want this cake. Oh, they got three different types of pie. Yeah. Or they got these donuts. Mm-hmm. Yeah. I like that they had all of our, there was the, what is that one in Gentry? Pie, wooden spoon. Oh yeah. They had all wooden spoon pies.
Oh, it was a dream. I love me. A good pie. All right. Uh, late night snack pizza or tacos? Tacos. I like, I like both. Yeah. Taco pizza. Oh, that's actually really good. So good. Not a lot of places to serve it. Or burger pizza. Oh. Let's see here. First dance. Choreographed or not? No. Just make it you, right? Yeah. Karaoke at a wedding.
No, amen to that. It just makes it weird. A photo booth must have, or a waste of money. I like a photo booth. I think it gives the guests like something to do. Like, get up, they'll go sign your guest book. And they always seem very intentional about making sure they sign your guest book, Uhhuh. But then I think it's like a memory and like put it on your fridge.
Like I, did you see my, I love that. My uh, story recently. No, I don't think so. So bright booths, okay. Offers a sketch. Photo booth now. Oh, I love that. So you take your picture on the screen and you put your face in a certain angle, and then you choose the sketch style and it's got a robot pin that sketches it for you.
It doesn't print it, it literally hand sketches it for you. That is so cool. It reminds me and then gives it to you and then it also sends that to you digitally. I love it. It's really cool. You gotta check it out. What else do we got? Venue, rustic Barn or modern ballroom. Um, probably a ballroom, maybe over the rustic barn thing.
It depends, like it's a preference thing. Yeah. It just really depends. It depends. It depends on like what the inside looks of both, you know. All right. What about the bridesmaids matching dresses or mismatched styles? I like cohesive. I think that looks nice. Uh, but I do like what the bouquet, like if she has like a mix of flowers that each bride.
Has one of each. Oh, I like that. And then like, they all have the same color on, but different style dresses. Yes. I love that. That's cool too. Um, flowers, real or fake? Real for sure. I've seen some really good fake ones. Well, I think. If it like really counts, like I think the bride should always have a real bouquet.
I like that. I don't know. And then you save it, right? You dry it out? Yeah. Yeah. Ours is in our bedroom. Uh, decor vibe. Neutral white or bold and colorful. I know it can be other way, but what do you prefer? Probably like classic. The, the classic, um, neutral white. Yeah, I think so. Okay. It is classic. All right.
Signage, neon signage or wooden acrylic. Oh, ooh. Wooden acrylic probably. Okay. Invites physical paper or digital website Only physical. Like, I think that is like. So cool. The stationary that you can get it is cool and like the whack, I don't know, I just love, but it does cost more. It does, but I It's all about your perception of how you wanna present your wedding, right?
That's true. It is cool to get those with the, the stamp on the back. Yeah. And all the different textures. Like you can really, honestly, you can go all out and like, I had a bride do this on Etsy and she loved to craft and she did all this really beautiful. Like stuff for her wedding. So I did a wedding once where I believe, I don't know, I don't know if it was the in invitation, it might have been the gift that they gave, the takeaway from the wedding they hand wrote.
Every guest a note. Oh yeah. That was one of the wedding. Your boys what worked a wedding with me? It was actually one, I mean it was a 50, I think there were 50. Yes. And it was in at Cardinal Hall. Yeah. And I, she was one of my favorite brides I've ever had, and they were the one of the ones that did a very different take on their cake, but.
I loved it. 'cause it was just so unique to them. Yeah. And she was just such a big, awesome personality. That's cool. Yeah. That is really cool. But she hand wrote every single person, she handpicked a postcard for everyone. Wow. That reminded her of them. And then wrote everyone, including me and all the vendors.
No, that's too much writing. It was so sweet. Yeah. I'd get somebody to do the writing for me. Of course it would. The Veil. Long Veil or No? Veil. A Veil. Okay. Uh, hair Updo. Down and flowy, updo, wedding planner. Necessity or luxury? Necessity. Necessity. There we go. Vows. Should they write their own or traditional standard vows?
I like to write your own. Okay. Uh, timeline Sunset or afternoon ceremony. Sunset. Love that. Uh, getting ready together in the same house or separate until the ceremony separate. Hmm. Destination, wedding or hometown wedding. Just depends if they wanna hire you. Destination wedding. Yeah. I would love to be hired.
For your destination. Yes. Have you, what's the furthest you've been? I haven't yet. I mean, I've had some inquiries from like New York City. Yeah. Montana, Florida. And they just kind of went in different directions as far as just personal reasons. So I know I'm getting closer, but you gotta get there. I think it's, I think it's all God's timing, honestly.
Yeah. I'm learning Italian on Duolingo, so let's go go to Alfi Coast together. Let's go. And finally the budget. Spend more on food or entertainment. Ooh. I mean, for your sake, entertainment. Yeah. But I think both are really important because it's how it makes you, how your, what the takeaway is, how you felt on the wedding day.
Yeah. But like guests love food too. They do. So like. But what, what would they remember more? Probably food. What, how much fun they had. Right. I'm joking. Yes. While eating the food. A slice of pizza so we can hire. No kidding. So good. So good. Uh, yeah, we've had some late night snacks and some weddings I've been a part of.
Like, and they show up an hour late. Yeah. Or. The food's cold and you're like, really? Fries from McDonald's and they're freezing cold. Yeah. Uh, we did a wedding one time where the couple met at a, uh, like shakes or something at Andy's. And so they brought in Andy's as their late night snack. I love that.
Everybody loved that. Yeah. We had seven BREW at one. Oh yeah. And I was like, oh, I love this. At late night snack. Yeah. Nice. I know they had like seven Brew, like came and delivered it. Like all these different ice, was it coffee or was it It was coffee. Their other drinks. It was coffee. I mean, it was like the late night treat.
It was like iced coffees. That's what they, they sell. So I did their corporate party and they sell like, I think 20% of their cells is iced coffee, like. 10% is hot drinks and the rest is that Red Bull stuff. Yeah. They have their own energy drink too, which I like. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They have the no sugar and the sugar one.
So when I DJ'ed their, their event, as you can see, I'm sitting here drinking just regular coffee. Yeah. I went to their coffee table. I'm like, Hmm, where's just like black coffee? Yeah. And I asked the guy, he's like, oh, no, no. We just have the blondies here. And so and so. Only iced. Ugh. I'm like, I don't want all the milk and the sugar.
Yeah. I just want coffee. I don't have a black coffee. A couple Stevia. Yeah. He's like, no, we don't. We don't do that. And Onyx has the best black coffee. Onyx has the best coffee. Yeah. So good. You're not the first person who's been on that has said that. I'll die defending Onyx all day long. Yeah. Yeah.
Coffee's good. All the companies in this area are good. Onyx is the best. Yeah. All right. Well, I'm glad you got to be a part of the show today. Yeah, it's been so fun. We can't wait to to do more weddings with you. Give everybody your website for now. Yeah, it will redirect to your new website whenever you change your name.
But what's your website now and how can they find you? Yeah, so I'm actually really active on Instagram. Yes, you are. So it's all one word. Bogar Wedding Co. BOG. ER. Mm-hmm. Wedding Co. Mm-hmm. Dot com slash no, I'm just kidding. Yeah. And then from there, for now, I have a Google form and then I have a website, but I'm getting a new website.
Okay. So it'll be better, but it will be better. Yeah. So just keep going to it. I mean, it's fine. It's fine. It's getting the job done for now. Follow her on Instagram. That's what she's saying. Fogger Wedding Co. Just follow her on Instagram. That's where you'll see everything. You can message her on there.
She'll get it. She's on there right now, scrolling through all her pictures, writing in the assistant, waiting for your message. Uh, Patty, thank you so much. Thank you, bra. It's gonna be an awesome year. Come back anytime. All right, thanks.