Going to a protest? Be funny, not just paranoid

The best way to overthrow fascists and weirdos? Make them look dumb. We'll explain how to work out your creativity muscle to help you do just that. Also joining us this week is Thorin Klosowski, privacy activist at the Electronic Frontier Foundation. Show notes, full transcripts and more can be found at: https://www.stupidsexyprivacy.com

Creators and Guests

Host

Rosie Tran

Rosie Tran is one of the fastest rising stars in the entertainment business! Originally from New Orleans, Louisiana, she moved to Hollywood to pursue her career as a professional entertainer. The stand up comedian, writer, podcast personality, and actress has toured internationally, at comedy clubs, colleges, and overseas for the USO in Europe and the Middle East.

Editor

Andrew

I am the Editor of all things on the Stupid Sexy Privacy Podcast.

Producer

B.J. Mendelson

B.J. Mendelson is a world-renown humorist and author on topics involving privacy and social media.

What is Stupid Sexy Privacy?

Stupid Sexy Privacy is a miniseries about how to protect yourself from fascists and weirdos. Season 1 ran from 2022 to 2023. A revised version of Season 1 began airing in August of 2025. A second season will premier in 2026. Your host is comedian Rosie Tran, and the show is produced by author and information privacy expert B.J. Mendelson. Every episode is sponsored by our friends at DuckDuckGo. Tune in every Thursday night —or Friday morning if you're nasty — at 12 am EST to catch the next episode.

Rosie: Welcome to another edition of Stupid Sexy Privacy. 

Andrew: A podcast miniseries sponsored by our friends at DuckDuckGo. 

Rosie: I’m your host, Rosie Tran. 

You may have seen me on ChimeTV’s A Brand New Yay!

Or on Season 2 of Peacock’s Comedy InvAsian.

Andrew: And I’m your co-producer, Andrew VanVoorhis. With us, as always, is Bonzo the Snow Monkey.

Bonzo: Monkey sound!

Rosie: I’m pretty sure that’s not what a Japanese Macaque sounds like.

Andrew: Oh it’s not. Not even close.

Rosie: Let’s hope there aren’t any zooologists listening.

Bonzo: Monkey!

Rosie: Ok. I’m ALSO pretty sure that’s not what a Snow Monkey sounds like.

*Clear hers throat*

Rosie: Over the course of this miniseries, we’re going to offer you short, actionable tips to protect your data, your privacy, and yourself from fascists and weirdos.

These tips were sourced by our fearless leader — he really hates when we call him that — BJ Mendelson. 

Episodes 1 through 24 were written a couple of years ago. 

But since a lot of that advice is still relevant, we thought it would be worth sharing again for those who missed it.

Andrew: And if you have heard these episodes before, you should know we’ve gone back and updated a bunch of them.

Even adding some brand new interviews and privacy tips along the way.

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Rosie: And if you sign-up for the newsletter, you’ll also get a free pdf and mp3 copy of BJ and Amanda King’s new book, “How to Protect Yourself From Fascists & Weirdos.” All you have to do is visit StupidSexyPrivacy.com

Andrew: StupidSexyPrivacy.com

Rosie: That’s what I just said. StupidSexyPrivacy.com.

Andrew: I know, but repetition is the key to success. You know what else is?

Rosie: What?

Bonzo: Monkey!

Rosie: I’m really glad this show isn’t on YouTube, because they’d pull it down like, immediately.

Andrew: I know. Google sucks.

Rosie: And on that note, let’s get to today’s privacy tip!
This Week's Privacy Tip:
 Rosie: We want to talk about a term you’re going to hear a lot.

 It’s called “Tactical frivolity.” 

Or basically, the use of humor, as a form of protest against fascists and weirdos.

Once we get to the newer episodes, we’re going to talk a lot about strategy. 

But for now, all you need to know is that Sun Tzu was right.

The best defense is a good offense. 

That’s also our philosophy here at Stupid Sexy Privacy. 

First, we’re going to show you how to protect yourself from fascists and weirdos.

Then, we’re going to show you how to fight back.

That’s where humor comes in as a form of protest. 

Humor de-escalates tension.

It also demonstrates a contrast between the claims of authoritarian regimes, and the reality on the ground.

And undermines the regime's authority.

Nobody, anywhere on this planet, wants to look stupid. 

And if you make the regime look stupid, nobody’s going to want to follow their orders. 

But you can’t be funny, without first strengthening your creativity muscles. 

So this week, we’re going to talk about creativity.

SFX: Monkey Sound

Roise: You’ve either got it, or you don’t.

That’s the most frustrating thing someone can say to you about creativity.

The bad news is, a lot of people think that way.

The good news is, those people are wrong.

The fact is, anyone can be creative.

The question is whether or not you have the time to put into it.

I mention this to acknowledge up front that not everyone has that time. 

While Capitalism can be great, Capitalism without the guardrails will grind most of us down to a nub. 

Leaving us very little time for ourselves, our families, and creative work. That’s why, if you have the opportunity to join a union, you should.

But let’s say you do have a few minutes here and there. 

And let’s say you’re interested in fighting fascists and weirdos. 

Well then it’s important to know how to build your creativity muscle.

Here’s how:

Step 1: If you want to be creative, you have to take care of yourself. 

That means eating right. 

Exercising. 

And taking time for yourself. If you’re fortunate enough to do so, you should absolutely make sure there’s time in your schedule for you to do absolutely nothing.

Remember: As humans, we’re designed to eat, fuck, and play. This whole concept of “being productive” is BS pushed on us from our oligarch overlords.

Doing nothing is important, because your brain needs time to process everything that you pull in. 

And if you’re constantly glued to your laptop or phone, it doesn’t have time to do that.

So, if you can, make sure to do these things.

And if you find yourself getting bored, that’s great. Boredom is a good sign. Embrace it. Boredom means your brain is doing the work that it needs to.

Step 2: You have to be honest with yourself. 

Not everyone can access therapy. We know that. We need Universal Healthcare in America that provides access to mental health. We don’t have that right now. And so it can be really hard to get in to see a therapist. 

And then, you have to make sure you have a connection with that therapist, and that the therapist has the skillset to help you. 

In order to be the most creative you can be, it helps to know who you are as a person, and that’s why being honest with yourself is so important.

Because there’s only one you. 

There’s nothing new under the sun. 

Remember that Batman is just The Shadow, Zorro, and Sherlock Holmes. 

The Fantastic Four are just the Challengers of the Unknown.

And Rick and Morty is just a fucked-up Back to the Future.

Much like the universe we inhabit, everything that ever was, is, and will be again. 

That means you have to get in touch with who you are as a person. 

You have to know what you want, what you don’t want. What you find funny. What you don’t. What you’re good at. What you’re not. 

Those are all things you should figure out. Therapy can help you do that. 

And knowing these things helps develop your unique voice, which you then put out into the world with your creative work.

Step 3:  The next thing you want to do is become a sponge. 

But since there’s so much content out there, you have to be specific about the information you’re absorbing. 

The first kind of information you want is specific knowledge. 

For example, in preparing to bring back Stupid Sexy Privacy, BJ plowed through over a dozen books on privacy. 

That’s an example of specific knowledge, gathered for a specific purpose, which was to revive this show.

The specific knowledge you need is going to depend on what you’re trying to do. 

What kind of story are you trying to tell? 

What kind of creative work are you going to produce? 

Who is the audience that’s going to interact with that creative work?

What have other people done in the genre or field you’re producing? 

Those are the questions your specific knowledge should answer. 

After you have that specific knowledge, you want to go out and find what’s called general knowledge.

This one is all about being a good listener. 

If you’re out getting groceries, what are people talking about? 

What are the top rated shows on television? 

What’s the most popular trending item on general interest websites like Entertainment Weekly, and on social media platforms like TikTok?

Creativity is just connecting two disparate ideas into a fun, new one.
 
It really is as simple as that. 

So the more you know about the thing you want to work on, and the more you know about what’s happening in the world around you, the more potential combinations you can create.

Step 4: The next thing is to catalog and document your combinations.

We recommended you use Standard Notes in our storytelling episodes. 

You can also use OnlyOffice if you’d like to try a privacy-centric office suite, with more capabilities than what Standard Notes offers. 

For example, if you’re collaborating with people, the free version of Standard Notes isn’t designed to do that. OnlyOffice is. And OnlyOffice is also backward compatible with Microsoft Office files.

But no matter how you choose to catalog your combinations, if you do it, you’ll notice certain patterns forming. 

Or certain ideas that keep popping up. 

Or ideas that could connect to other ideas. 

That’s how you develop your creative work. 

By putting these things together into different combinations, and then tweaking and refining them. 

The tweaking is something we talked about last week. But as a reminder …

People think you just come up with something creative and off you go. 

And sure, some people are naturally gifted enough to do that, but that’s not the majority. 

The majority of us need to work at it. 

So test your stuff out with an audience when you can, tweak, and test again until you get it right.  

The key is to not be precious. 

As both BJ and I can tell you, there are jokes that we come up with that we absolutely love, and then you try them out on an audience, and they just fall flat. 

It happens. 

That’s why, no matter what creative endeavor you embark on, it’s important for you to tweak, test, and let go of an idea if you can’t get it to work

Step 5: Finally, there are two things we want to touch on. The first is writer’s block, and the second is making sure you give your work time to breathe.

If you suffer from Writer’s Block, it’s easy to get unstuck.

The first method is to just walk away for a day or two. 

Don’t think about the thing you’re working on. Just occupy yourself. 

Writer’s Block is usually a sign that your brain is still processing information.

Don’t get frustrated when it happens. Just let your brain do its thing. 

That’s why it’s a good idea to wait at least 24 hours before you publish anything.

The other way to break writer’s block is to just write anyway. 

Even if it’s nonsense. 

Just set a timer for fifteen minutes and write until the timer goes off. 

There’s no trick to being creative. Anyone can do it. 

As the Roman Poet Virgil said, “Possunt quia posse videntur” Or in English, “They can because they think they can.”
We think you can.

Now let’s get to our interview with Thorin Klosowski at the Electronic Frontier Foundation. 

We love what the EFF is doing for Opt-Out October, and wanted to get the word out about this awesome new project.

Interview With Thorin Klosowski, Privacy Activist at the Electronic Frontier Foundation

BJ: Thorin, thank you so much for joining us today on Stupid Sexy Privacy. Would you like to take a moment just to introduce yourself, and tell us a little bit about your work at the Electron Frontier Foundation?
Thorin:
Thorin Klosowski: Yeah, my name is Thorin Klosowski. I am a privacy and security. What is my title? Security and privacy activist at the Electronic Frontier Foundation. I've been here for about two and a half years. The main thing I work on is a project called Surveillance Self-Defense, which is our sub-domain that kind of shows a lot about how technology works and the sort of steps that you can take to be more secure, whether you're online or going to protests or just whatever you're doing in the real world.

BJ: That's awesome. We've talked a lot on the show so far about the best way to protect yourself at the protest, especially, you know, we're recording this prior to No Kings coming up. Is there any particular tip that stands out to you that comes up quite a bit that people aren't aware of?
Thorin:
Thorin: For me, I really think it's just having people take a beat to really think about what they're concerned about and what kind of steps that they would need to take after that. I think it's really easy to kind of look at these guides and just kind of think you have to do everything. But most people don't. So I think the different tips in there are really dependent on kind of what your concerns are and what you kind of want to get out of those protests. You know, for some people,
They are comfortable being on camera and want to be on camera to be seen and to kind of have that impact that way. Whereas other people do want to have like say, you know, masks on, or they want to blur out people's faces. So it's kind of, it's really just, for me, it's really just the main tip is to just kind of think about what you want out of the protest and what you're concerned about. Whether that's, you know, the place getting your device or it's you being seen and then taking the steps kind of depending on what you kind of discover there whenever you ask yourself those questions.

BJ: Yeah, I mean, you the other thing is I've seen people maybe go too extreme, like in the other direction, for example, they're like, okay, I need to lock down my phone. need like Graphene OS and I need to do all of like the Michael Basil extreme privacy stuff, which is not bad, but it also makes you stand out. Like you would definitely stand out from a crowd.

Thorin: Yeah, exactly. And that's also going to be fine for some people. That's a step that many people, if you're comfortable taking those steps, and that's what your concerns are, that's totally fine. yeah, it might also make you bring up some questions if law enforcement did get access to your phone. And if you don't know how to answer those comfortably, then you might kind of dig yourself a little bit of a hole.

BJ: Let me ask you, what does a privacy activist do?
Thorin: (laughs) Well, we all kind of do different things. There are many of us with titles that have that in there somewhere. I tend to work on a lot more of the education and consumer privacy stuff. So like I mentioned, surveillance self-defense is kind of what takes up the bulk of my time and talking to people about that, working with groups and communities to kind of make sure that we're providing what they want and need from that resource. But then also doing a lot of consumer activist stuff like pushing people, pushing companies to do better or whenever that isn't working, kind of guiding people towards how to use products in the safest and most private way possible. But then there's also people that we have that work on like, you know, getting lawmakers to pass better bills, both in the US and around the world, or working more directly with communities to help them kind of like...

Thorin: start a privacy or security oriented group in different parts of the country and all sorts of other stuff that a lot of our team does. It's kind of runs the gamut of what you might think of when you think of activism.

BJ: All right, yeah, and so I really love the concept of Opt Out October. And I was hoping you could tell us a little bit about how that got started and what the goal is.

Thorin: Yeah, it kind of came from discussions a couple months ago around how to kind of help people get over the little bit of privacy nihilism that a lot of people feel right now and also try to push for better kind of default settings and better options for people on a lot of these services and apps because right now no national privacy law in the United States seems like it's on the table in any, you know, real way. And that's kind of something we would usually be pushing for super hard right now. And we still are and still will. But in lieu of that kind of being really feasible right now, we kind of wanted to think of alternative ways to kind of bring people to EFF who maybe aren't used to this, like thinking about these things a lot and also kind of just help people with the eight gazillion you know, different settings in every app and service that they have.

BJ: Yeah, and you know, like the thing I keep beating my head against the wall is why New York's Privacy Act is just sitting in committee. You've got a Democratic trifecta here in New York. There's no reason for it to be sitting there, and yet there it is in mothballs for years now.

Thorin: Yeah, it tends to, it's really, it's not the only state that that happens in.

BJ: Right. You know what I like about Optout October is I think that you've highlighted a couple of ones that people might not think about. You know, like that they tend to think, okay, we know Amazon is creepy, but they may not realize they can turn off behavioral advertising. And when I saw that, was like, okay, we definitely need to talk about that one. Cause I feel like a lot of people don't know that they can do that.

Thorin: Yeah, and it's, you know, of course being Amazon, it's kind of a little funky on how it works, but it does turn it off for what they're advertising to you off the platform, but they can continue doing it on platform. So like what you purchase can still influence what you would see as sponsored results or whatever. So it's, you know, it's kind of, it's sort of like how Google works, where it kind of like contains it inside of the system of Amazon. But it does mean that like their offsite targeting should not be happening, which is an improvement still.

BJ:
Right. Was there any particular tip that you've come across so far that really surprised you?

Thorin: There have been a few that I have been also just kind of surprised at how other people approach them too. There's some that are coming up, I guess, that are a little bit more interesting. We have some about using virtual credit cards or like virtual cards, not credit cards, but services like privacy and… Iron, I can't remember the name of the other company, but where you can kind of just create like a, what's basically like a gift card and then you use that at one website. So if you have like a recurring subscription or whatever, or if you're like shopping somewhere kind of funky, you know, you don't necessarily want to put your credit card in there. These are like a great alternative to that. And it's kind of something I've known about and I've used personally, but I didn't really realize how many people didn't know about it. And...

So it's things like that. There's, yeah, we have kind of a lot coming up that I think it can be surprising what people haven't done before and what they're interested in. that's kind of where we're Thinking about this is it's less the kind of like really deep in the weeds kind of options and settings; Although there's a couple of those two and it's more just the kind of like baseline stuff that a lot of us can be doing that maybe we aren't or we've lapsed on or That maybe our family members, know, maybe aren't doing but we can help them with yeah

BJ: Right? Yeah, privacy.com is huge. Like that's one we've been recommending when we did the original series back in 2022. We were talking about it quite a bit and it blows my mind that it hasn't just caught on, I guess, in the way that we hope it would.

Thorin: Yeah, it is. It's it when people learn about it. They're they're like stoked especially with like I mean with the proliferation of like subscriptions and I mean even like you have to put your credit card in to like book a restaurant sometimes, you know It's like all sorts of stuff that like it comes really helpful for

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BJ: Let me ask you about Privacy Badger in particular, because we, so we've been recommending that for years. When I first wrote my privacy book, I think it's like going back to 2015, 2016, we were talking about Privacy Badger. So it's a long time favorite, but what can you tell us about the extension in 2025 and how can people get the most out of it?

Thorin: Yeah, it's just humming along and doing as good as ever. I think right now they're really working on a lot of outreach. They're working on improving our translations to help reach broader communities in more places. it's just been phenomenal how they've added features and
getting it on more platforms. just launched on Edge or yeah, Edge for Android. I know they're working on other mobile platforms as best as they can. 

So yeah, I mean, it's just kind of firing on all cylinders. They've got a great team working on it and it's great. I have it, kind of like any, that's like the first thing I do with like family members who are, kind of ask me like, what is your job all about? What do you do? And like, what can I do? Like it's, that's the first thing I always suggest they do. Cause it's the simplest. It really makes a big impact and it really kind of improves the browsing for like people of all ages.

BJ: Right. Yeah. And then that's something we've been focused on too is our goal is to get like 5 % of Americans to be 1 % better at protecting themselves from fascists and weirdos. And privacy badger is definitely on that list for that reason, because it's simple, because it's easy to just install real quick in Chrome, even though we prefer people don't use Chrome.

Thorin: Yeah, and it has a lower hit rate of ruining websites than other similar extensions, which is not that there's anything wrong with the other ones. But if you're installing it on maybe a non-tech, comfortable person's laptop, it's going to cause them less confusion.

BJ: Right. Yeah. There's a couple of things that the EFF has been up to that I really would love to ask you about. I'm thinking a lot about what's going on in United Kingdom with the chat control initiative. For people that aren't familiar, can you tell us a little bit about what's going on there and whether or not, if you're using Signal, which is what we recommend and what you guys recommend, should Signal users be concerned?

Thorin: Yeah, so the basic idea is the EU Council is trying to make it so… like platform holders would have to scan messages to look for specific types of content. So in terms of end-to-end encrypted apps, that would be, we consider that would be breaking encryption because it would be making it so platforms would have to be able to access the contents of messages, which would kind of defeat the purpose of a lot of encryption or end-to-end encryption. And so signal users, there's kind of like two ways to think of it. Like with Signal specifically, there is cause for concern, but that is because Signal would never let this happen. So like they've kind of publicly stated, like they will just leave wherever that they cannot offer, you know, end-to-end encryption that is not ruined by client-side scanning like this. They would just not offer it there. So that's kind of the good news, bad news here. The good news is that they would not create this sort of back door that other companies may be willing to do, but it also would mean that people would not be able to access their service. So right now, it's kind of, has been kind of the football's kind of been kicked down the field a little bit. The proposal was going to be up for a vote, I believe yesterday. And that kind of got pushed back because there's member countries who are not in agreement about this. The fight's not over, but it is delayed.

BJ: What can people do that, because we have a lot of international listeners, what is driving this and what can people do to kind of push back?
Thorin: Yeah, so this like, think talking about it on social media and, and, you know, that's kind of been the biggest thing. And like, from what I understand, you know, I'm not in the EU, I'm in, in the US. So I don't have a good view on what's happening there. But from what I've heard, there's been a lot more talk about it this year than there has in years in the past, by media of like all sizes, which is a good thing. And I think just kind of continuing to make a ruckus about it until they stop trying to do this for whatever makes sense in whatever country you're in. It's a little bit harder to kind of like point people towards the direct thing. Cause I knew each country kind of works a little bit differently and like, I'm kind of blanking on the name of there's been a few websites that have had some more direct action ideas, but it's going to depend on kind of where you're at, I think.

BJ:
Yeah, and do you know what is, it sort of, reminds me a little bit of like the push here in the United States for the digital driver's license, where it seems like it's an attempt to censor more than it is an attempt to actually do the things that the people pushing it claim to do. Is that about right?

Thorin: It, I mean, it's sort of just, it's, it almost feels like every country has a different kind of idea of what they think is going to happen. Which is kind of maybe why they've had a hard time coming up with a consensus for it. Because it is, everyone kind of has a different ideal of what the end result would be.

BJ: Working at the EFF, what are some of the projects and initiatives going on that you want people to know about that you're proud of?

Thorin: Yeah, I think there's just, mean, there's so many to kind of like pick some that I'm mostly familiar with, which is maybe not necessarily the biggest, the best, but the ones that I have kind of like been, that I know the most about. think one of the big ones is automated, like fighting against automated decision-making with different AI laws and rules or like AI generated police reports, like things like that, like kind of fighting those on like a local level and trying like, AI is kind of like a funky weird thing that means everything and nothing right now. But sort of focusing on the automated decision making part has kind of helped us kind of decide what fights are worth having. And those ones are oftentimes the ones most worth having because they're going to have the biggest effect on people's actually day to day life.

Thorin: So that's one. And I think just our general like kind of police work is really fascinating and interesting. It's not something I really work on very often, but I work with people who do and it's always really interesting. Kind of the same with our reproductive health stuff that we've got a series going right now. Man, what else are we even working on? So many things.

BJ: Well, tell us more about the reproductive health because I feel like that's really important and I don't want that to fly under the radar for people.

Thorin: Yeah, so it's been a lot of, it's kind of a collection of all of these things that we've been talking about already. Like, because in the States, reproductive health laws depend on which state you're in, there has been a lot of technology being used to kind of find people or people are worried about it being used that way. you know, maybe incorrectly worried about the wrong things in some cases. There's been kind of a censoring of abortion content on different platforms, all sorts of things like that, kind of whatever people warned about happening has been happening somewhere. And it like intersects with technology in a lot of ways, whether that's like how we use computers and how people might be, you know, targeted that way or how they may not be seeing information based on like, you know, censorship on different sorts of platforms.

BJ: Right. Let me ask you, is there anything about Opt Out October or the EFF that I didn't ask you about that you want people to know?

Thorin: That's a great question. know, EFF has been around, I think we are in our 35th year or we're entering our 36th. Now I can't remember which anniversary we just had. I think it was the 35th anniversary. And it's an organization that I think, unless you're like deeply familiar with us, it is kind of shocking how it works where there's just, there's like these kind of three pillars of people, lawyers, technologists and activists who all kind of work together to do things. And it has just created a very interesting sort of intersection of projects and different kind of approaches to how we talk about privacy and technology. So Opt. October is kind of like the thing that I think of is like a kind of broadening of the tent to really bring people in to kind of talk about this stuff on a very like personable or personal and simple level. But then, you know, Two blog posts away, there's stuff like our Ray Hunter project, is looking for Imzi catchers that law enforcement might be using to spy on people, you that you can build yourself. So it's like we kind of, we're trying to run the big tent here. That's kind of, Optout October was a, hopefully a way to kind of like meet new people where they're at and bring them to the cult of privacy.
BJ: Yeah, no, I love it. And for people that love it as well, how can they support the EFF? Where can they donate? Where can they go online? Where can they find you?
Thorin: Yeah, EFF.org. We are a member supported organization, so every little bit helps. We also have great merch, frankly, to not like pat our team too much on the back, but you can just buy a tote bag or a cup or a cool hoodie. We've got that stuff pretty down pat.
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