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Seth Holehouse is a TV personality, YouTuber, podcaster, and patriot who became a household name in 2020 after his video exposing election fraud was tweeted, shared, uploaded, and pinned by President Donald Trump — reaching hundreds of millions worldwide.
Titled The Plot to Steal America, the video was created with a mission to warn Americans about the communist threat to our nation—a mission that’s been at the forefront of Seth’s life for nearly two decades.
After 10 years behind the scenes at The Epoch Times, launching his own show was the logical next step. Since its debut, Seth’s show “Man in America” has garnered 1M+ viewers on a monthly basis as his commitment to bring hope to patriots and to fight communism and socialism grows daily. His guests have included Peter Navarro, Kash Patel, Senator Wendy Rogers, General Michael Flynn, and General Robert Spalding.
He is also a regular speaker at the “ReAwaken America Tour” alongside Eric Trump, Mike Lindell, Gen. Flynn.
Welcome to A Man in America, a voice of reason in a world gone mad. I'm your host, Seth Holehouse. So this week, Trump made a statement that didn't really sit right with me. And what he said I'll play the video, during the interview. But in talking about Operation Warp Speed, he said it was one of the most incredible things ever done in this country.
Speaker 1:He said everything about it has been amazing. Now I shared that video and waited on it. I said, there's no way to defend this position. If you call it five d chess, I'm flipping over the damn chessboard and setting it on fire. I've had countless friends and family members harmed or killed by this amazing mRNA operation.
Speaker 1:And so this is really the foundation for the discussion on today's show because when I put that out, I put that tweet out, there were a lot of people that said, gosh. Thank you for saying this. I'm right there with you. People like Anne Vandersteel. I think Vigilant Fox also commented on it.
Speaker 1:And so there are people that were on the same side, but there were also a lot of people that were basically calling me ignorant and saying, look. You know, you just don't know the plan. Like, you're you're you're you're too stupid to understand the plan. If you just would study, you'd realize that operation warp speed was part of a plan to thwart a a global lockdown where they would have, you know, forced vaccinations, etcetera, etcetera. And so, you know, I asked someone in my I think it was my Telegram chat who who had a response like that.
Speaker 1:Though he wasn't, you know, accusing me of being ignorant. He's just saying, hey. Look. There's actually you're missing something. I said, can you share some proof with me?
Speaker 1:Right? So I try to always look for proof. And if I don't have proof, I'll I'll say it. I'll say, look. It's my opinion that this is how something is.
Speaker 1:I I'll say, I believe that this is what's actually happening. I don't have hard proof, but based upon my research, this is a conclusion that I've come to. But what I'm seeing, though, is that all the people that were commenting on this, they didn't have that attitude. They basically said, this is the this is it was absolute. Trump did this to stop the FEMA camps and to stop this.
Speaker 1:And any person I said, well, can you share some proof with me? They never gave me proof. Now a few people shared a documentary. Actually, I'll show it to you, and I'll put the link in the description. So there's a guy named Drago.
Speaker 1:His his Twitter handle is cogdrago, and I've probably met him before. I mean, he's he's an amazing artist, but he was part of a documentary that he was explaining this plan for, you know, basically how the vaccine was gonna stop the lockdowns, etcetera. I watched the documentary, well done, but I still I didn't have much proof. It was still a lot of speculation. And so in today's discussion, out of being fair to both sides of this, I'm not here to tell you what to think, but I wanna have an honest conversation about this exact scenario.
Speaker 1:So my good friend Todd Callender is joining me, and he's someone that has been he's very objective. He's not some anti Trump person, but he's also not someone that is just kinda blindly believing what seems to give him hope. He's been really in the belly of the beast. He he was highly involved in a massive class action lawsuit against the DOD on behalf of, I think, around 400,000 service members that refused to take the shots, and he was very involved. He's been involved in lot of other things like that, so he comes with a very unique perspective.
Speaker 1:But my goal with this discussion is just to have an open discussion and say, okay. Look. Here's the evidence on both sides. What do you think, Todd? And, also, I'm asking you, as the audience, what do you think?
Speaker 1:Let me know in the comments. What is your opinion on this? Am I crazy? Am I black pilled? Am I red pilled?
Speaker 1:I mean, I don't I don't take any pills. So, anyway, I also feel like it is my duty to express these thoughts. Again, going back to the tweet that I put out. Right, as someone that has had, you know, friends and family significantly harmed after they took the vaccine or the boosters, I my I feel like that my tweet was very accurate of my position. There's no way to defend this.
Speaker 1:Like, how can you come out and say that everything about this entire operation, which led to a massive global vaccination campaign where we now have seen huge spikes in myocarditis, turbo or turbo cancer, infertility rates, etcetera. How can you come out and say that this is everything about it has been amazing? But look. As someone living in The United States that voted for president Trump, I also feel like it's my duty to be honest about these things because maybe he just doesn't know. Right?
Speaker 1:Maybe we throw him a bone and say, maybe he's just so busy, and he's surrounded by all these advisers that are lying to him that he doesn't know. Well, if that's the case, then maybe by happen chance, you'll see this tweet from one of the people that live in the country that he's in charge of, and he'll say, oh, I didn't think about that before. Let me look into this more. And that's why I I do this show. It's why I'm I'm put the tweet out there is because we have to have our voices be heard.
Speaker 1:And so, anyway, getting into the conversation now with Todd, I think it's gonna be a really helpful conversation. We're gonna try to approach it fair and objectively, but, hopefully, it helps you kind of strengthen whatever view you have on this, or maybe you change your view on it because of this conversation. But either way, I hope you enjoy. If you enjoy it, I hope you share it. Also wanna remind you that every show is done as a podcast as well as a video.
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Speaker 2:Yep. Always my pleasure, Seth. You're a pal, and it's my honor to be with you.
Speaker 1:Well, thank you. So we've got a lot to cover tonight, and we're gonna be try to we're gonna try to be efficient with our with our discussion, which we always are. But I'm gonna start with this. So there was a I'll first start with this clip of Trump. This is just, you know, just this week, past couple of days.
Speaker 1:In reps you know, a reporter asks Trump about Operation Warp Speed. And I'm I'm gonna play this, and I'll share my response to it, and that will help us set the stage for our discussions. Let me play this first and take a listen. You were the driving force behind Operation Warp Speed, these mRNA vaccines that are the gold standard. Right.
Speaker 1:Now your health secretary is pulling back all the funding for research. He's saying that the risks outweigh the benefits, which puts him at odds
Speaker 3:with the
Speaker 1:entire medical community and with you. What is
Speaker 2:going on?
Speaker 3:Research on what?
Speaker 1:Into mRNA vaccines.
Speaker 3:Well, we're gonna look at that. We're talking about it, and they're doing a very good job. And, you know, that is a pass. With Operation Warp Speed was, whether you're Republican or Democrat, considered one of the most incredible things ever done in this country. The efficiency, the the way it was done, the distribution, everything about it was has been amazing.
Speaker 3:But, you know, that was now a long time ago, and we're on to other things. But we are speaking about it. We are meeting
Speaker 1:So I guess that's all I need to play. Right? It's just that he's continued he he's really never changed his position, that Operation Warp Speed was an absolute success, saved millions of lives, and here it is saying it's it was amazing. Now I I responded to that tweet, which has gotten a lot of attention and over a 100,000 views and, you know you know, five, six hundred comments. And I said, there's no way to defend this position.
Speaker 1:If you call it five d chess, I'm flipping over the damn chessboard and setting it on fire. I've had countless friends and and family members harmed or killed by this amazing mRNA operation. And so to help frame our discussion, there there is there are a lot of people that believe that even operation warp speed was part of some five d chess, some very strategic move to prevent, basically, global lockdowns and everything. Now a lot of that narrative, goes back to a guy named, Drago. Right?
Speaker 1:And actually, nice guy, brilliant artist, and I'm not attacking him in any way. Right? Because I I I appreciate the research that he's done. So he has he was there's a document that was made with him by him and somebody else, which is this right here. I'll actually, I'll link it in the description if people can watch it.
Speaker 1:So that way, everyone can have all the information, and and I wanna be objective with this. It's almost an hour long documentary where he original plan was to slow roll a vaccine after ten years of lockdowns in voluntarily detaining people into quarantine camps. When the vax was finally released, it would have been mandatory and dissenters would be detained in the camps. Warp speed stopped the FEMA camps. Now the documentary, which, I mean, is very well done.
Speaker 1:It's by a guy named stop world control. He's a great, you know, filmmaker. What it does is it goes in obviously, I'm not gonna play the whole thing here. It's an hour long. It shows all the different world leaders talking about how the unvaccinated will be put into camps.
Speaker 1:It shows the construction of the FEMA camps. We saw people, especially in Australia, countries like that, definitely in China, people being put into these camps under quarantine, etcetera. So but then the point that that is really being made is that by Trump forcing out this vaccine, it stopped that plan. Now there's a few questions that I have. I'm trying, again, I'm trying to be objective with it, which is why I appreciate the conversations with you because you're also you're very levelhead and objective.
Speaker 1:But Thank you. You know, from the questions I have, to question that narrative is why not roll out some sort of saline vaccine? Like, why not roll out a vaccine globally very quickly that caused no harm to anybody? To me, it would have served the purpose of preventing these lockdowns, which I think, to be honest, I think they'd have a really, really hard time forcing Americans in the FEMA camps. You'd have civil war.
Speaker 1:You'd have so many people that have unlimited guns and ammo refusing that. You'd literally have civil war break out in America if that would have happened. So I don't think they would have been able to successfully put us into the camps. Maybe, you know, maybe we have avoided civil war then by the vaccine rollout. But that's one of the big questions I have is that why wouldn't if that was the plan, and if Trump was this kind of master five d chest, you know, kind of figure, why would the vaccines still be causing so much harm?
Speaker 1:And, also, now that we're almost five years past the overall event, why does Trump continue to praise the vaccines, talk about the success of operation warp speed, tell people on stage that he got the vaccine himself, which is for a lot of conservatives, they're gonna follow that line, and they're gonna go get it. A lot of my family, which are a lot of them are conservatives and a lot are also liberals, even in my more immediate family, I'm talking siblings, parents, cousins, uncles, etcetera, there's been multiple heart attacks, death, you know, sudden death, surgery not surgery, turbo cancer, you know, and and, like, young people, you know, in their forties having, you know, onset turbo cancer. There and it just it's been countless. Like, I've witnessed just among just, you know, my own immediate circle an incredible increase in death, neurological stuff happening, you know, menstruation problems, fertility issues, cancers. I mean, it's been absolutely crazy that I can't ignore it.
Speaker 1:And but I wanna get you I wanna have you weigh weigh in on this because I think that you have a very unique perspective into the DOD, how things are happening behind the scenes. You have a lot of access in the government. You're very involved in a lot of government lawsuits about this, but you're also very involved in trying to help people understand what the true effect of these shots has been. And one other thing I'll put out there before I kinda hand it back over to you is the other way of looking at it is that, well, how do we know that the threat of the FEMA camps and all that wasn't just part of the plan to get people to get vaccinated? Because if you look at the technology, the mRNA tech that was put in, the the nanotech that ties into the control grid, the the, you know, w band what wire wireless body air tell me what the Yeah.
Speaker 2:Wireless body area network.
Speaker 1:There you go. Yes. So it's like there's also you could also say that. Well, what if the FEMA camps were never part of what their end goal was, but it was also just part of the campaign to scare people into getting vaccinated. So there's a lot of questions I have, and I wanna give this a fair discussion because it's a really, really big deal that this the president that a lot of people in America worked so hard to get back into office for '20 in 2024, again, is continuing to praise this operation warp speed that I think has led to the research I've come across, in my own opinion and my own research I've done, millions of deaths, in America and and and many more millions globally, but plummets in birth rates, you know, massive spikes in infertility, you know, stillborn deaths, myocarditis, strokes.
Speaker 1:I mean, I've interviewed paramedic, you know, paramedic that was on the front lines of this. The stories I've heard are so upsetting. So, anyway, I wanna just present that give you that field of information and let you Yeah. Just dive into whatever you want to about that. What are your thoughts on this?
Speaker 2:Well, there's a lot of thoughts, but
Speaker 1:let me Please
Speaker 2:start with this. Yes. I know this intimately because I litigated it for three years. On the 08/24/2021, we filed a lawsuit against secretary Austin, mister Austin, you know, let let's put it that way. Health and human services and the FDA, in advance of the order mandating their military take this shot.
Speaker 2:A temporary restraining order with about a thousand pages of evidence that included, by the way, the results from their own study on 44,000 service members and their families that included an eighty two percent spontaneous abortion rate, twelve hundred deaths, twelve hundred and ninety one new diseases that the people went home with that they didn't show up with, amongst other things. Right? Because that was that was done and completed the full year before the order was actually issued. And let us not forget that the original order from mister Austin authorized use of force. The plan was, in fact, to use the military to force the shots at everybody.
Speaker 2:And if everybody in the military had the shots, right, then you get their their buy in. You get their investment. But but before all of that, let's go to the the five d chess part of this. The problem with that analysis is that Operation Warp Speed was launched in 2016 prior to Trump's first term. So this had been in plans in the works for a very very long time.
Speaker 2:The shots themselves, we believe were created circa 2017 in preparation for the 44,000 service members. By the way, of those service members and their families in that first clinical field trial, only a 178 of them finished the trial. The rest of them were all too sick and dying. That data was laundered, and then and they hid the deaths, they hid the abortion rate, they hid the hundred and seventy eight to finish the trial, they they hid the twelve hundred ninety one new diseases, and they they gave the cleaned up version to the FDA, DOD, Pfizer, said safe and effective, you know, off you go. What I'm trying to impart to you is that this was a plan from a long long time ago, that these pathogens were created over a long period of time in preparation for this launch.
Speaker 2:President Trump happened just to be in office, to be frank with you, and and I think that he was not very wise in taking credit. You know, God hates hubris, and there was a lot of hubris around this. Now he's he's stuck with this question before him. You know, it was the gold standard. It was this and that.
Speaker 2:It was a setup question. And I don't think he answered it very well. He could have just said it was a it was a wonder of logistics. It was a wonder of how well we were able to respond. Yeah, the shots turned out not to have been so great.
Speaker 2:This is something we could learn from. We should never rush into experimental treatments and force it on everybody. But he didn't say that. And I think that's a failing. And I think that's really quite frankly tragic.
Speaker 2:The sad part about this is we're still talking about this four and five years later when this was put into the federal court record years ago, known about, talked about, you and I've been talking about this for ages, and yet only now people are going, wait. What? Really? Because they happen to see so many people falling dead around them. I don't know what it takes, Seth, for people to understand our species is under attack.
Speaker 2:We are marked for eradication. And by the way, you know, Operation Warped Sea was a military operation. Now what do we see? AI, autonomous targeting, killing, scoring, being used in Gaza, being used in Ukraine, being integrated into what? Our government to target us for eradication, and they made it a military operation.
Speaker 2:The tech guys are now lieutenant colonels in the army. What does that do? Remove congressional oversight, make it a military operation. If you wanted to eradicate humanity, wouldn't you make it a military operation?
Speaker 1:So that that's a way in that quickly, that's a very interesting point. Because, again, if you're trying to defend operation warp speed and using that particular narrative that was it was for the good of humanity, it was to protect us from being put into camps. One perspective that I have is that they don't need physical camps because they have digital camps. And if you look at from that perspective, you look at the nanotech that's been put into the bodies, especially if those have been received the payload, shot directly into their body. Not to mention, though, what's being put into the into the chemtrails, into our foods, all this stuff they're putting into us as nanotech that a lot of us are working so hard and figuring out how to detox and pull it out of ourselves.
Speaker 1:So if you have the the perspective that they didn't need the physical camps, the physical FEMA camps and, again, you know, the camps that were built, maybe they would have housed a total of, you know, 50,000 Americans or something. It wasn't like they built camps that were gonna hold, you know, 50,000,000 Americans. Right? So but the the but kinda going with that is that if you're still kind of defending it from that perspective, then how do you make sense of what you just talked about, which is this massive push under the Trump administration to integrate companies like Palantir, Meta, Google, OpenAI? You know, Larry Ellison, you know, Project Stargate.
Speaker 1:How do you make sense of all of this new digital infrastructure that really, for people to understand it, can see that, yeah, that literally is not that different from what China has been using on their own citizens. It's just that they're doing it more openly. But Yeah. You have to say that Trump is actually very active in helping to build the infrastructure that could be used to create a true technocracy here in America. It's like, how do you explain that then?
Speaker 1:Is that something that's part of a five d chess move? I I because I can't make sense of that.
Speaker 2:No. I my my sense is this, Seth. And I I said it long ago when we actually served what's called a writ qui warranto on the US attorney, where we found that not a single member of the cabinet in in our presidency, the last one, had a valid oath of office. Not one of them. Some just didn't bother with the oath of office.
Speaker 2:The law says you have to have one, or what you're doing doesn't count. You know, the statute is five USC three three three one three three three two. The reason why I tell you that is because you can you can follow this back all the way, to 1963, when in the congressional record, they read the communist manifesto in the congressional record, 45 items, how do we destroy America? All 45 of those have been ticked back. What I'm trying to impart to you is that it's an our government is an illusion of choice, this candidate or that candidate.
Speaker 2:They're They're fulfilling a role so that the illusion of governance gives us some level of comfort while comfort while we are being eradicated. We're being marshaled into cattle shoots towards the packing house, perhaps literally. But this has been a plan to transform humanity into a new species and or eradicate the old one. And and the reality is that there isn't room for two in all likelihood because we're competing for resources. Right?
Speaker 2:That's why nations go to war. AI needs water. They need electricity. They because they're not sentient, as do we. So the paradigm goes back to the classic one.
Speaker 2:When you run out of resources, what do you do? You buy or steal. Right? And we're gonna end up in that situation if we haven't already, where you see physical brain tissue, it's been integrated into circuitry, into computers for sale now, and only uses 20 watts of electricity like our brains do, but it's a thousand times the computing power of your PC. So that it's already happened is what I'm trying to impart to you, and what I pray is that we're not too late.
Speaker 2:It bothers me deeply that this has also been militarized no different than COVID, and the shots were militarized. And by the way, it wasn't just the shots. Right? The the the pathogens that we understand and saw starting in 1922 were cultivated over time. Our Department of Energy made 470,000 man made pathogens, the DOE.
Speaker 2:And they've been putting them into our food, water, and medicines since 1955. So we we it's like going to the abuser, asking the abuser to stop hitting you in the head. We're going to the government seeking redress when in fact it's all the governments are effectively, knowingly or unknowingly, in the process of eradicating humanity.
Speaker 1:And so when you say that Operation Warp Speed began in 2016, that you think the shots were developed in 2017, that would also change a lot of this overall narrative. Because a lot of the again, the bigger narrative was that it had to be rushed because of this this looming deadline of the FEMA camps and everything. But it sounds to me, like, from what you're saying that this wasn't some rushed plan that actually Oh. Similar to how event two zero one foretold the the coming of the COVID, you know, pandemic. I I imagine that the all that information that was emerged in event two zero one wasn't a week old.
Speaker 1:It was probably a part of a very, very long planning Yes. Scenario, even going back to I think it was Operation Lockstep, where they talked about these things as
Speaker 2:well. Thousand eleven.
Speaker 1:Exactly.
Speaker 2:Yes. I mean, of course, is. But but how are we so stupid we can't see this? Here we have over on the side, the Federal Reserve spends a couple billion dollars billing out their billing. It's a private corporation, but it's getting US dollar funding.
Speaker 2:It's in control of our money supply, and yet we look at it as part of our federal government when in fact it isn't. It's independent, it's privately owned, and it owns and controls us and everything we do. So when I say government is an illusion, that's a prime example of it. Everybody thinks the Federal Reserve is part of the government. It is not part of the government.
Speaker 2:And you look at the the quasi governmental organizations. CDC is a great example of that. The NGOs, like the WHO, which is in fact in charge of the entire planet when six magic words are uttered, as happened in 2021. The declaration of a public health emergency of international concern rested all power in one man, Tetris Adnan Gabraseus, who was an Ethiopian warlord before he had that job. So
Speaker 1:Not to mention being heavily controlled by the Chinese Communist Party who helped get into that position.
Speaker 2:Right? For sure. So how are we so stupid that that that we look at these non sequiturs? I I'm sorry. We see the non sequiturs and overlook them because we hope.
Speaker 2:Right? We don't want to believe Seth that we're being eradicated. We we wanna see our kids grow up, but we're not willing to invest the time, energy, and effort to make sure that they're gonna survive. And it is through our own laziness and apathy that we arrive here.
Speaker 1:I I couldn't agree more. I mean, I think that I mean, I think that I live in a little bit of an echo chamber. I think our audience is also part of that echo chamber being that we know these things. We you know, like, the average person who watches this show, they know the history of of Jekyll Island and and the Federal Reserve. They know what's in these shots.
Speaker 1:Right? But the problem is is that the the vast majority of this country, which doesn't even discover this show because I'm so shadow banned on YouTube, which is probably one of the only areas I could expect to reach people that are not already in this, you know, the kind of the rumble, highly aware echo chamber that we're in. They're they're busy watching Fox News or paying paying attention to the sports games or talking about, you know, sex toys being thrown on the WNBA court. They're all caught up, really, in a lot of the bread and circuses. And and that's also why, you know, why we have these conversations and why we do what we do, because we wanna get this information out to as many people as possible.
Speaker 1:But, also, in terms of, you know, Trump, I'm not doing this show to attack him. I'm not doing this to to come after him and expose him. I'm doing this because as a citizen of The United States Of America that actually voted to put him into office, I believe that he needs to hear this information. Yeah. And and if there's something if he comes out again, you know, as I just pulled up, if he comes out and he makes these these statements, I feel like it's my duty as one of his constituents of The United States Of America to to let him know, hey.
Speaker 1:I don't agree with this, and, actually, you're calling it amazing, but my friends and family are now maimed, you know, killed, sick for life, maybe won't have children ever again. And I just feel like it's my duty to Right. Put this information out there, and that's, again, that's why we're doing this.
Speaker 2:God bless you for so doing it as well, Seth. And you've doing it for a long time, and I really truly admire you for it. You've had a tremendous effect. But I want to extend your logic to everybody that sees this. Where are you sending this off to your friends who are on YouTube and not on other platforms that speak the truth and share the truth?
Speaker 2:It it doesn't take that much, right, to actually do that, to send them to your contact list or or bring it to the dinner table and raise it. The problem is that humanity, the silent majority, whether that's in The United States or elsewhere, are too timid. They're too afraid. They're too worried about being excluded from the herd as the case may be. Well, the herd is going towards the slaughterhouse.
Speaker 2:So if you decide not to share this video, then you're sealing your own fate because we're out of time.
Speaker 1:That's a good point. It's it's a good it's a very, very important point.
Speaker 2:I mean, that's the apathy we talk about. Right? Are we really that sad that that we can't click a couple buttons? We can't raise at the dinner table or talk to a relative or a friend openly somebody we trust and say, you know what? This is what I'm seeing.
Speaker 2:What are you seeing? In hushed whispers, where is the rest of the planet saying the same thing? And by the way, where's the rest of of Americans asking the very same hard questions you are? Right? Shouldn't there be people shouting from everywhere asking these actors that that we call politicians and decision makers?
Speaker 2:I'm sorry. Weren't the one forcing me to do this? Weren't you the one that said I could, you know, have a lap dance, but I couldn't go to church? Do we forget already what happened? I haven't.
Speaker 1:Yeah. No. I I certainly haven't. And and and the thing is is that it's not about being doomsday and, you know, there's no hope. Like, to me, it's it's about being intellectually honest.
Speaker 1:And this the reality is we live in a world where very evil controlling elites and bloodlines and who knows who they're reporting to, whether it's an ancient race of of of demons or who knows and Satan himself. Right? It doesn't matter. But we the the reality is this is the world that we live in. Right?
Speaker 1:And and it's if you live in a small village and and there's a big neighboring tribe of cannibals that's, you know, 30 miles away that you've seen eat like four other tribes, and they've got scouts looking at your tribe, and you go to your village and say, hey, everybody. Look. Like, you know, I know you're busy with your checkers, and you're playing soccer out in the field, but there's a band of cannibals that there's a high chance they're gonna come eat us within the next year. And if everyone says, you're such a fearmongerer. You're so you're so black pilled.
Speaker 1:It's like I feel like it's my duty to just not and stop, be shouting from the rooftops, like, hey. We need to either learn how to fight or we need to move because these guys are moving in on us, and that's why I fit the situa it doesn't mean there's no hope. It just means that there is a very real dark threat that we need to be aware of and that we need to make our fellow Americans and really fellow humans aware of so that more of us can unite and stand up against this because that's what does give me hope is seeing the people collectively understanding these things and waking up. But they've made it really hard for us to do that, man, unfortunately.
Speaker 2:Oh, they have.
Speaker 1:I I I had someone comment on YouTube recently and said, man, like, I just saw your channel. I haven't seen you in so long. You're so shadowbanned. They said you should have over 2,000,000 subscribers. This guy you know, he came from media a social media background.
Speaker 1:He's like, you should have over 2,000,000 subscribers this. You know what? In the past three years, I've gone from a 125,000 subscribers to a 126,000 subscribers on YouTube. You probably think your four zero one k is safe, that it's growing, that it'll be enough for your retirement. But what if it's not?
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Speaker 2:Yeah. Exactly. Because they don't want the truth. Right? They they want people go very quietly into their cattle chute, to their feeding pen, get fattened up for slaughter.
Speaker 2:Yes. That's exactly right. I but I want people to understand the paradigm, and and that is that we are in the fight for our existence. The very survival of our species, whether that's by transformation into a new species, or simply death and eradication. You may mention the fact that people can't produce children anymore.
Speaker 2:By the way, that started with Gardasil, long before the COVID shots. But the the point is this, we either take our planet back, or we don't. This is a binary situation here. It's one or the other. It is not both.
Speaker 2:So people that that wanna sit by and let others do their work for them, go dig your hole. Because the end is near. This is we're in the last hour, and the and the greatest weapon we have at this moment in time, Seth, and I'm actually encouraged by this, is the opportunity to say no. So so for example, going back to the military and the suit that we brought, it wasn't the lawsuit that prevailed. It was 400,000 service members saying, screw you we're not taking your shots, because of the evidence we put into the record.
Speaker 2:There are 11 other lawsuits like mine, and they looked at me, saw this the stamp at the top, the pacer stamp. Holy cow, this is real evidence. And they said, no, we're not doing it. And and let me tell you something. The plan was to use the military, not just ours, every military.
Speaker 2:It's why it was a military operation to force the shots on everybody at gunpoint. But good people stood and held the line and said, we are not doing this. What we have to do is make that contagious beyond those 400,000 service members in our country and make it a humanity wide thing. No. I'm not having your digital ID.
Speaker 2:I'm not having your central bank digital currency. I'm not taking any more damn shots. I'm not gonna use AI. Get it out of here. We don't wanna and by the way, the power of the purse does work.
Speaker 2:Look at what happened with Bud Light. It would transvestite come on here, and everybody's like, no. No. No. No.
Speaker 2:You got to we bankrupted the company effectively. So the power of no does work, but it's not enough. It's enough to slow it all down. But at the end of the day, this is a do or die mission. And I I hope people will understand this.
Speaker 2:I couldn't be more clear. We are in an extinction level event. We are being eradicated. The NVIDIA, Palantir, MITRE computer systems are already in use in Gaza and Ukraine, identifying targets, scoring people based on their social media, their conversations, associations, and then eliminating autonomously. That means without human input.
Speaker 2:That is what is being integrated into our government at this very moment, and it's been militarized just like Operation Warp Speed was. I don't know how to say it anymore plainly.
Speaker 1:No. No. I mean, no. You're right. Well, I I wanna add one thing to what you say about saying no is this is why the information war is so important, because what they've tried to do is to limit the information people need to even make an informed decision.
Speaker 1:So they go with their doctor, the doctor says, hey. Make sure you get your third COVID booster. And they say, okay. You're the doctor. Right?
Speaker 1:So they can't even make it a a a reasonable they they have no chance of saying no properly because unless they're really, really digging if they go to Google, like most people, and they say, is this the vaccine safe and effective? Of course, Google returns that. They go to Wikipedia. I'll go and look at Wikipedia. They ask a question on Facebook.
Speaker 1:Oh, the the post got taken down. That's odd. And they go through it. So that's why what we're doing is so important is because what we're doing is we're giving people the ammunition to build their confidence to then say no and to not partake in this and and to have that strength and to grow that backbone and then to help their friends and family have the same thing, because that's what we need. We need to have humanity opt out of this globalist future Yeah.
Speaker 1:Which, unfortunately, is a dark one, but I have a lot of hope in humanity. I really do. But but you're right, though. This is the final hour. We we have to take this as serious as it really is.
Speaker 2:Apathy. Apathy is the issue. You know? If you can't be bothered to be a participant in the rescuing of and and salvation of our species, then you probably don't deserve to be here in the first place.
Speaker 1:Good point. I wanna segue a little bit into you've got a symposium that's coming out. I think it's it's next week. Is that correct?
Speaker 2:We're gonna record next week. We're gonna release it on the twenty ninth.
Speaker 1:Okay. Which which I'll I'll make sure that that's going out through the Man in America channel because you absolutely have to get that. And and maybe I can participate in the symposium. I would look at the timing and the dates and everything. However, in this discussion, this is why I put that tweet out in response to the video about operation war.
Speaker 1:I got all this flack. I got a lot of support for, you know, people saying, yes. Thank you for saying this is really important. But I think the one thing that was being missed is what is the actual long term effect of these shots? And that's something because it's like, okay.
Speaker 1:Well, if what is it? Like, you know, 5,000,000,000 people got the shots, and and those five billion people, you know, roughly say, you know, say it's three or five, whatever it is, if they have something that's gonna affect their lifespan and their ability to produce children, it's like, well, may maybe the camps were the better option instead of, you know, half the half the world's population, you know, going through this. And so that's what takes us into, I think, what your symposium is getting into because, I'm on a lot of email chains back and forth, and we talk pretty often as well. Yeah. And I know that you're very, very involved in trying to help people understand what's really happening, as a result of the shots, as a result of the pathogens.
Speaker 1:So why don't you start walking us through that? Because I think that actually helps to frame the overall discussion of, know, arguing over whether operation Warfare is a good thing or a bad thing. Let's look at what the shots are really doing.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Let's do that. But I I wanna point something out first, and and this is a failing of us and and the design of governance generally. And and you said it yourself. Yeah.
Speaker 2:I'm hugely involved. Providing the very same evidence to people in government now who are saying, wait, holy cow. That was real? Because they're compartmentalized. They're siloed.
Speaker 2:They sign national security agreements. They can't talk about this to anybody else. In the meantime, the information is out here. This is this is open source intelligence. Guys, you can talk about all you want to irrespective of your security clearance, but they don't.
Speaker 2:So the way governments are designed is that nobody can ever really know the total picture. I imagine that extends to president Trump as well, and those in a lot of decision making positions. And talk about an echo chamber, they're surrounded by, you know, yes men, lieutenants, and yap dogs licking their boots. So they're not getting the information unless they go and look at it and or like you, you call them out and say, hey, dude. What about this?
Speaker 2:We were talking about this five years ago, you're just now catching on. Maybe you're not listening to the right people. Maybe those people in your cabinet are kind of full of crap. Maybe you're being fed wrong information from your intelligence agencies. Right?
Speaker 2:All of that was by design, is what I'm trying to say to you. So we have to undo that design, and should we be fortunate enough to survive this as a species? Big question mark. Then what? What does our world look like?
Speaker 2:Because the system that we're going under right now has led us to this. It doesn't mean the foundations of the constitution were wrong. I think they were right. But there's so much undoing that that has to happen. So going back to the the symposium, the reality is this.
Speaker 2:It's it's irrespective of the shots. Let me just say this. If if a person, a human being defined as such, Homo sapiens sapiens, is transformed into a new species, which has happened. Right? Does it matter then?
Speaker 2:You know, it's an extinction level event either way. Homo sapiens doesn't exist anymore, either by death or by transformation. It doesn't make any difference one or another. The story of mankind is over. That's the paradigm before us.
Speaker 2:And and I don't know about you, but I intend to die as a man, as a human, as God's creation. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna be somebody else's. I'll leave it at that. The the point of which is that there the integration of humanity into the AI thing has been a plan for a very long time, starting back in 1955, when the US Department of Energy had figured out that we are electrical beings. And they took a particular protein called gene one six one six, also called death associated protein six, also known as Canadians, they trademarked it, and they made it an electrical parasite, and they've been poisoning us since, but they've also been preparing our bodies, including flooding us with cesium one three seven.
Speaker 2:We all have it, the WHO has been monitoring it for ages, the specific absorption rate, Why? Because it makes our bodies more available through the wireless body area network to be harnessed. There's power supplies, there's cloud computing does. So this plan has been in existence for a very, very long time. We're just waking up to it and catching onto it.
Speaker 2:And our government is literally five years behind us by virtue of the of its design. What does that mean? It means we've got to stop having these barriers and these borders. We have to talk openly the truth as you do all of the time. This has to be custom and habit and culture.
Speaker 2:The political correctness and fear of of of harming some of these feelings is complete and utter nonsense, and it's how we got here. And of course, it's a psychological warfare. So with with regard, I'll show up in a second. The symposium is is really about open reading frames, that were discovered in 1922 in Soviet Russian Stalin making bioweapons, and they figured out these little proteins in our DNA chains could be modified to have results, creating smallpox, or Ebola, or hemorrhagic fevers or whatever else. They figured that out a long time ago.
Speaker 2:And despite bioweapons treaties, China, US, and Russia continued on making these things, to the point where in 1992, Russia the Soviet Soviet Union fails the Russian scientists in the bioweapons business went to Fort Detrick, and and they defected. Well, The US wasn't in the bioweapons business according to the treaties they signed, and yet they all collaborated further in the creation of these OFRs incorporated into SARS CoV one patented 2007, SARS CoV two patented later, I think it's 2013, if I'm researched, and then released upon the world. In other words, we've all been genetically modified. And the purpose of this genetic modification is to ensure that all of humanity eventually dies from white amyloid clots. For those that pay attention here, would know something about it.
Speaker 2:But the reality is this. The the point of the symposium is to get people involved to find an answer. Because our species is done. If we don't undo that, then it's only a function of time.
Speaker 1:And so the symposium, these okay. So these clots, which a lot of us have seen, a lot of us have seen analysis, or we've seen interviews or pictures, or, you know, if you've watched died suddenly, you can see that there are these things that are not normal. Right? These clots that are growing in people. Exactly.
Speaker 1:And so but what you're also saying too is that tying back into some of those earlier patents and research is that the much larger picture with this is actually the the modification of our DNA. So we're actually not even technically human DNA anymore. We're DNA that's been modified. So if you go get a tomato that is a an heirloom, you know, organic tomato, it's a regular tomato. If you get a GMO tomato that's been genetically modified, it's no longer a pure tomato anymore.
Speaker 1:It is a genetically modified tomato. And so right now, I think most humans on earth are genetically modified humans.
Speaker 2:And to add to your calculus, the US Supreme Court found that to be the case in a case called molecular pathology versus marigenetics 2013, where it says use of mRNA in particular, to genetically modify an organism means the new organism belongs to patent holders. So it was clearly contemplated in the law with a long history of on Santo cases before it, to arrive at this conclusion. Right? It's a a predetermined conclusion. And so the answer to your question is, yeah, I think that you've got that right.
Speaker 2:One must always define what does it mean to be genetically modified. Is there a percentage of us that has to be of our total body? Is it is it an entire protein chain, or is it three oligonucleotides or proteins? Who knows? But the answer to the question is that we have already been modified by somebody.
Speaker 2:In fact, we already know who they are, and we're going to name them. We know when they did it. We know how they did it. We know who did it. All of that.
Speaker 1:And so the symposium is exposing a lot of this information, but also bringing in some of the leading doctors to show us how we can undo this and what the research that they're doing, right, trying to undo
Speaker 2:Trying to undo Yeah. This is this is such a critical part. I'm glad you said that, Seth. Because in all of the evidence and the research, and God bless our Australian and South Pacific friends that really came to figure all this stuff out. God love them.
Speaker 2:And Richard Hirschman in Alabama included, and others. We'll get to that. They're gonna be there. But in all of the evidentiary trail, and there's a lot of it, where you see these people collaborating, people, I use the term loosely, collaborating to eradicate humanity. At no point in time do you see any evidence that they were trying to figure a way to undo it.
Speaker 2:But my point is nonetheless, if they were able to make a pathogen such that it's contagious and respiratory for the purpose of genetically modifying us, doesn't it stand a reason that we could undo that somehow, and also make it contagious? And so the point of the symposium is to get people's minds working in this way. There are brilliant people all over this planet, and we collaborate as a species, for the survival of our species. And we did talk about having a unifying force. I don't know what could be more unifying than that.
Speaker 2:To take our planet back, to take our bodily sovereignty back, to undo what has already been done. And the idea is to get everybody's help and thinking. And the reason we have these learned scientists there is because they're ahead of the curve, they're working on it, but we need ideas and mechanisms. And it seems that there's a lot of really good research has gone into frequencies that might be able to undo this. We are electrical frequency beings, but we don't have the answers, and who knows?
Speaker 2:Maybe somebody was working with the Russian Chinese or American scientists making this stuff, and they know how to undo it. Maybe they've realized, holy crap, this is the end of our species, end of my kids and grandkids. But that's the point of this, is to confront the truth, looking for a solution, not just bitch about it.
Speaker 1:And that's yeah. And that's what you're doing. So that I'll make sure that the symposium will come out on the Man in America channel. And make sure people know well in advance of once we're gonna publish that. But as we're wrapping up here, what what is it that gives you hope for the future and for humanity?
Speaker 1:Because I always I especially with you, I always like to end on that because it's like oftentimes, we'll dive. We'll go deep into the dark cave and explore the the underbelly of the evil. But you're you're whenever I talk to you, you're you're typically sometimes, you know, it's not always, but you're always in a pretty good mood. You're smiling. You're you're you're hopeful.
Speaker 1:Hopeful. Yeah. So
Speaker 2:I am hopeful.
Speaker 1:You know, amidst all this, what is it that goes that does give you hope?
Speaker 2:Well, a couple of things. First and foremost, I'm a believer.
Speaker 1:And There you go. That's all it takes. Right?
Speaker 2:Face over face over fear. I don't fear death. We're we're all gonna die anyway. Life is a terminal disease. It's hazardous to your health.
Speaker 2:So first and foremost, there is that. But secondly, humanity has existed for eons. We are tough, and we figure stuff out. And I was talking to my friend Greg Reeser communicating with him early today. He lived in Russia for a while.
Speaker 2:I was like, did Vladimir poison all of his people or not? And he basically said, you know, the Russians were already persecuted and killed by their government. Nobody trusts the government, so nobody took part, which it gives rise to the very same thought process. If we all just say, no, screw you. We're not doing it.
Speaker 2:I don't want your AI. I don't want your digital idea. I'm not doing any of this. What are they gonna do? And and there's so many of us.
Speaker 2:I don't believe it's anywhere near 5,000,000,000 people that got the shots. But there are so many of us. If if we collectively say no, we put the division aside, stupid race baiting and the isth labels, and actually figure out, you know, we're all here for one reason, that is we're God's creationists. We can collectively unite and take our freaking planet back. That's the plan.
Speaker 1:Amen, Todd. Well, that's it. It's it's a good place to end on. Thank you for giving me your time on such short notice. Always.
Speaker 1:But I you're you're the guy I wanted to have this conversation with. And I I I will, again, tell those of you that are watching, share this content. Unless you hate this con unless you just despise this discussion, if you enjoyed the discussion, if you learned something, help us out. Help us to reach more people, and we're gonna keep doing this. So, Todd, thank you again, man.
Speaker 2:It's really my pleasure, Seth. It's just a joy. I guess if I count you as a pal, it's been my honor to work with you, brother.
Speaker 1:Well, thank you. It it goes both ways. Take care, and god bless.
Speaker 2:God bless.
Speaker 1:So I hope that you enjoyed that conversation with Todd Callender. He's again, he's a good friend of mine. Great, great guy involved in very, very important things and really trying to help save humanity. But one thing I would just wanna mention quickly is that you can see that my perspective is that I don't trust the government. I don't trust the government even with Trump leading it.
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