SpaceX's 11th Starship Launch and Elon's Vision for Space

In this episode, we discuss SpaceX's groundbreaking (and explosive) launch of the fully stacked Starship, marking a key step for Mars colonization. 

We discuss the advanced heat shield, potential cost reductions for launches, and the new Starlink V3 satellites enhancing global internet access. We also dive into the engineering marvel of the Raptor 3 engines, and SpaceX's vision for the future of space travel.

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TIMESTAMPS

0:00 SpaceX Launch and Explosions
1:49 Importance of the Starship Launch
3:03 The Heat Shield Breakthrough
5:14 Building a Sustainable Future on Mars
7:35 Satellites and Starlink V3
9:51 The Size and Structure of Starship
14:14 Innovations in Raptor Engines
16:17 SpaceX's Unique Position in the Industry
17:21 The Vision for Life on Mars
19:21 The Future of Space Travel
22:04 The Next Generation of Rocket Technology
24:01 Conclusion and Future Launches

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Creators and Guests

Host

Ejaaz Ahamadeen

Host

Josh Kale

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Josh:
So just yesterday spacex launched their fully stacked

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starship which measures almost 500 feet

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tall it's the largest object that's ever gone to space and two parts went up

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both parts came down and they both exploded catastrophic explosion and the explosion

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was gigantic everything that went up came down everything blew up but the point

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of this mission is that that's actually exactly how it was supposed to go. It was a wild success.

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These test flights, when SpaceX sends these up, they're not expected to land.

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In fact, most times they don't. And this is the first time where it actually

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landed in the right place.

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So Ijaz, what you're seeing in this video here is the booster that is kind of

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hovering above ground before falling into the ocean and exploding. So this was amazing.

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Ijaz, I know you were also watching the launch last night. What were your first

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impressions? What did you think watching this?

Ejaaz:
My first impressions was, why is this thing

Ejaaz:
exploding josh and i have to be honest for

Ejaaz:
our listeners here um josh i see you're rocking the

Ejaaz:
spacex hoodie let's go you can

Ejaaz:
see that i'm rocking a horse which is pretty much the opposite of a rocket i'm

Ejaaz:
old school i'm old-fashioned and i'm like okay this rocket is cool alon's launched

Ejaaz:
a bunch of spaceships already what's so special about this and after digging

Ejaaz:
under the hood josh this is actually super impressive.

Ejaaz:
I think the one line which kind of like bamboozles me about SpaceX's vision

Ejaaz:
is they're building the infrastructure for space.

Ejaaz:
I think up until, you know, very recently, many people thought of space as like

Ejaaz:
this kind of like cool thing. It's like, yeah, it's a once in a lifetime mission.

Ejaaz:
It's going to cost hundreds of millions of dollars. But what SpaceX is trying

Ejaaz:
to do is reduce the cost of that to the equivalent of like a bus ride,

Ejaaz:
So that becomes pretty normal to colonize humans outside of Earth.

Ejaaz:
But can you explain why this launch is so important, Josh?

Josh:
Yeah. So Starship Mission, I mean, like you were saying, to back it up,

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is the intention is to get to Mars.

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And they're very dead set on getting to Mars. And the problem with getting to

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Mars is that you need to have a low cost per kilogram to orbit.

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That's kind of how this thing works is if you can't get mass to orbit,

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then you can't create a copy of Earth to live on Mars.

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And the thing with colonizing Mars is that you actually need every single thing

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that Earth needs in order to be self-sustainable in the case that the planes

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or the rockets stop coming.

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So, Ejaz, if you send, let's say, 100 million tons to Mars, but you forget vitamin

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C, everything dies over a certain period of time.

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So you really need to be able to deliver every single critical element for life.

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And that requires a ton, literally metric tons of mass to orbit.

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And the problem is getting that

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cost down to as low as humanly possible. So back in the day in this with the

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space shuttle program, it cost $60,000 per kilogram to orbit.

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With the new starship, the projection is hopefully going to be as low as $50 per kilogram to orbit.

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So this is like a huge decrease in how they're able to do this.

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And the reason they're able to do this is because of rapid reusability.

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And that's what we saw yesterday. That was the idea of the test yesterday is

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to test how reusable these rockets are.

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So we probably should talk about the reason why this test in particular was

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different than all the others. And it's because of the heat shield.

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Now, the heat shield is a very critical part of this rocket because the heat

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shield is the single most challenging part to get right in order for the rocket to relaunch itself.

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So what we're seeing here is the crux of the heat shield, the way that they've

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been able to make it work.

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Because a lot of times, the reason why a rocket can't survive is when it comes

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back to orbit at 25 000 kilometers per hour uh

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it's really freaking hot and that's a lot of plasma it's a lot of heat

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and it just melts everything but what we're seeing here on screen is this

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thing called the bakery where starship literally bakes

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18 000 of these tiles the same way your grandma

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would they take some ceramic they throw it in an oven they cook

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it and on the way out comes out these little hexagons they stack

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18 000 of them together and it blocks

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the shields from overheating the problem is again

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you just the reusability where you need to be able to get this

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rocket back to earth and then take off rapidly right afterwards and

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the problem is that they've been falling apart like they've kind of fallen

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off some of them don't hold some of them

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can't resist the heat properly so what they did is they invented this thing

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called the crunch wrap which is such an outrageous name shout out from taco

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bell yeah we're seeing the crunch wrap supreme literally like the crunch wrap

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supreme that's where they get the inspiration from and i love this and what

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we're seeing on screen is oh they were actually able to take these tiles,

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these little ceramic plates, and they wrap them in this felt material.

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And the problem when you're going through space really hot is the metal expands

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and contracts quite a bit.

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So you need to have space in between the tiles, but that space let a lot of heat in.

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So what they did is they created this kind of malleable material,

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which is the felt, and it allows the metal to heat up and expand and condense

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and shrink while keeping these heat shields all intact. And it was amazing.

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And what happened on this launch was they lost less than 1% of the heat shield

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tiles, where in the past, they lost 5% to 10%.

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So the fact that they got this number down so low is the single probably biggest

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win of this entire test flight yesterday that we saw was the fact that they

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have a reusable heat shield. It's never been done before at this scale.

Ejaaz:
Okay, so if I were to summarize what you just said, Josh,

Ejaaz:
you're saying that the reason why Elon is testing out so many of these rockets

Ejaaz:
and blowing all of these up is to come to the ideal rocket architecture that

Ejaaz:
can colonize humanity outside of Earth. Have I got that first part right?

Josh:
Absolutely. Yeah. You got to build something that scales and that can be mass manufactured.

Ejaaz:
Okay, cool. And so to get there, he needs to reduce the cost of taking heavy stuff up, right?

Ejaaz:
Like right now, when it started off with the first rocket from NASA,

Ejaaz:
it was super expensive, hundreds of millions of dollars.

Ejaaz:
Reducing that cost to something much, much cheaper than that is important,

Ejaaz:
but also reusability is important, right? Josh, that's one way to kind of like drive it down.

Ejaaz:
It's like, if I can use the same rocket ship over and over again and not have

Ejaaz:
to reconstruct a new rocket ship every time one comes down and crashes,

Ejaaz:
we should be fine, right? So both of those things kind of are running in parallel.

Ejaaz:
And you're saying one major factor to help us get there are these heat-proof

Ejaaz:
shields or these heat-proof tiles, which are getting built in this SpaceX bakery.

Ejaaz:
That's what we're calling it, right? These countries.

Ejaaz:
Are these things literally made of ceramic, by the way?

Josh:
They're literally made of ceramic. It's so funny. it's just like what you did

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in like elementary school middle school art class um it's no different than

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that they put a little coat on the top it's like a little more sophisticated

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than that but basically they're just baking ceramic taco

Ejaaz:
Okay so where my mind goes to immediately next josh is um with the things that

Ejaaz:
they're taking to space what what kinds of things are they going to be taking

Ejaaz:
to space like i get the the mars thing right and that i still can't quite wrap

Ejaaz:
my head around because i'm like okay you like what materials are you taking that are you

Ejaaz:
bricks to build a house like how do we know if we can even live there but um

Ejaaz:
the most immediate thing that i remember us speaking about a few

Ejaaz:
episodes ago was satellites right and

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these satellites are part of starlink v3 which is getting

Ejaaz:
um you know their new satellite um structure which is

Ejaaz:
basically going to beam down i think it was like 60 terabits worth of data to

Ejaaz:
earth which is the equivalent of me having like super fast internet cabled internet

Ejaaz:
at home but anywhere i am like wherever i am if i'm on a quaint little mountainside

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um where i usually won't have reception,

Ejaaz:
Am I getting that right? Is there any other thing that I'm missing in between

Ejaaz:
satellites and building homes on Mars?

Josh:
Well, that's pretty much it.

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It's satellites, and then the satellites fund the mission to get to Mars.

Josh:
So Starlink is one of the largest cash cows of SpaceX, along with the private

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missions that they send up on behalf of governments or private industry,

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where they will take large satellites and they will send them into space.

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What Starship enables, like you said, it's just much

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bigger objects into orbit so like you

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mentioned the starlink v3 has 60 terabits of downlink

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speed per launch whereas the falcon

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9 launches with the starlink v2 or 2.5 that

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they're at now they only had three terabits per second

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of downlink so every single one of these starship launches is equivalent

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to 20 old launches which is

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just an outrageously large scale at how quickly they're going to improve this

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network and not only that but the latency comes down the total bandwidth goes

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way up it has a much further range and yeah we're seeing on screen kind of the

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difference between them so the version 1.5 fairly small version 2 pretty big

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version 3 is like gigantic it is dude

Ejaaz:
This is like much bigger 10 times larger than v 1.5.

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So much larger and it's it's really exciting because version 3 satellites will

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enable people like me and you to actually be inclined to use the network a lot

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of people now for starlink the users they're in the middle of nowhere.

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They're not in very highly populated areas because that's where it kind of works

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the best. There's not a ton of bandwidth on the network.

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If you live in the middle of the woods somewhere remote, or if you live in like

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some super foreign place in a jungle, you use Starlink. It works amazing.

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But when you apply these high bandwidth satellites, not only can you use them

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in more densely populated areas, but like we had in our episode a few weeks

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ago, you could actually go direct to cell.

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So EJs, if we're going on a hike somewhere in the middle of nowhere,

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well, now your cell phone could actually get service too, thanks to these new satellites.

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So it enables this huge unlock in terms of satellites but then also in terms

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of SpaceX Starlink satellites but then also in terms of private industry there's

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a lot of telescopes there's a lot of rovers like a lot of these larger objects

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that want to go to space but have no vehicle to take them there

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Starship enables that and all of these tests like you were mentioning Starship

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the test flight 11 last night it's all in an effort to find a flight proven

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architecture basically create the blueprint that you could then copy and paste

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and start doing this at scale like we saw with the last Rocket the Falcon 9.

Ejaaz:
Okay, Josh, I want to talk about the spacecraft itself.

Ejaaz:
This thing is huge. What we're seeing is an image of this spacecraft next to some old models.

Ejaaz:
You know, we've got the old school NASA models.

Ejaaz:
And just height-wise, this thing is crazy. And it's super thin.

Ejaaz:
Like if i remember correctly the outer shell of this spacecraft is the thickness

Ejaaz:
of two credit cards put together sorry how is that possible.

Josh:
It's outrageous they use hfs which stands for hard f and steel and he does if

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you if you that is the scientific name it's hfs i swear to you there's no way

Ejaaz:
That's right i'm gonna look that up.

Josh:
Well it's real and actually you can go outside and see this right now you just

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because if you go and check out the cyber trucks that are rolling down the road

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which there are plenty of in the city um they are wrapped with the same exact

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hfs that is on starship it is just a cold rolled stainless steel that

Ejaaz:
Is super strong you're not lying.

Josh:
It's called hfs um and it's it's

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remarkably strong strong that's why uh your cyber truck is bulletproof

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it's because it's made of the same stuff that starships are made of um and

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a lot of the the complexity comes from actually pressurizing the cabin

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so that they don't um either collapse under pressure or

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over expand under pressure but the scale is gigantic it is what we're seeing

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here is um the starship basically consists of two parts there's the first stage

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which is at the bottom that's the booster they call that super heavy and then

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there's the second stage which is the actual ship on top and both of those ones stacked together

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394 feet tall so that is equivalent to about 40

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stories tall so you just if you ever stood on top of a 40-story building you've

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looked out that is the the view from the top of starship it is unbelievably

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tall it's 30 taller than the statue of liberty i think it's 60 feet shorter

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than the great pyramid of giza this thing is like gigantic and yeah you can

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see here for scale on the video humans

Ejaaz:
People just look tiny yes so so so josh the the super heavy part part one the

Ejaaz:
booster is that primarily to get the ship you know up into the air is that primarily

Ejaaz:
just like fuel and rocket boosters.

Josh:
That's exactly right so the the booster exists literally

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for its name to boost the ship into earth

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orbit or low earth orbit at least because earth's atmosphere is

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super dense it takes a lot of energy to break through it but once

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you've broken through it and you're in the low earth orbit and going into outer

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space there's a lot less atmosphere there's a lot less friction against your

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ship you just need that smaller top part to actually go

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out into deep space um and this is where

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the payload is right exactly so the entire

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booster that whole bottom part that you're seeing it's all fuel

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100 of that bottom part is fuel and then

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most of the top part is actually fuel too like a large percentage of

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the stack is just fuel and then towards the

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very top of the bay is about room for 150

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tons of reusable payload um so it's

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a lot of fuel and actually one of the interesting things that they're going to

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start doing with the next version version three of the

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rocket is they're going to refuel that top part in space

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so what they'll do is they'll send up two versions of the ship one

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is a tanker and then one is the actual ship they meet in

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orbit and they kind of like kiss each other and then one refuels the other and

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that's how it's able to get out to mars um so it's this really remarkable thing

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what we're seeing here is the the rendering of the version three and that's

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that's exactly the kissing that i'm talking about they they have a tanker and

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then they have the ship and they connect and that's how you refuel it

Ejaaz:
So um this launch that we just watched um that was intentionally exploded is

Ejaaz:
the sign before we move on to this next version that we're seeing on our screens

Ejaaz:
right josh can you tell us like what the major differences are and what we can expect.

Josh:
Yeah so one of the biggest differences this is

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the thing that i am absolutely obsessed with is the raptor 3 engine so they

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have a whole new engine architecture that you're using and as a result a lot

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of things need to change so what you just saw in the past one it was a new fuel

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tank everything about the outside mostly looks the same everything about the

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inside is changing so the fuel distribution is changing a lot of the um

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the telemetry things the grid fins that control the ship are changing but the

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most notable part is these raptor 3 engines and it is if you go back actually

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to that image i love this image so much because it shows the three iterations

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of raptor and it just shows like what what a great company is possible is is

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capable of doing seems much less

Ejaaz:
Complex than yes.

Josh:
But it's much more powerful too so that raptor 1

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engine had was so complicated it looks

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like a bird's nest there's so much stuff going on it's really difficult to understand

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it has to have its own heat shield built in and it weighed

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2 000 kilograms so it's not

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very reusable it weighs a ton and it

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is only able to i mean only able to the thrust that you can

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get out of it is 185 tons raptor 2 looks a lot more elegant and raptor 2 that

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decreased the weight by 400 kilograms it has some more heat shield built in

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so there's a little less maintenance before and after each flight to reuse it

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but still pretty complicated and lifts the thrust up to 230 tons.

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Now, Raptor 3 looks like you could put that in a museum. It's gorgeous.

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All of the complexities are embedded inside of the engine. It is much more complex.

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And yet, it has a record-setting 269 tons of thrust. It weighs 100 kilograms, even less than Raptor 2.

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And there are no major limitations, meaning it can just go up into orbit,

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come back down, relight, and go right back again.

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So it is this unbelievably complex engineering challenge that they took on and

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that they were able to do.

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And I think it's a testament to how SpaceX operates. It's just really considering

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these things from first principles.

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Like, how can we make an engine the best possible thing using no off-the-shelf

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parts? All this is custom tooling.

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And as a result, they got an engine that is way faster. And like,

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look at this video that's it is so much force that's that's 269 tons of thrust

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from one single engine um it's it's a marvel

Ejaaz:
This seems like something straight out of a movie josh um like i i feel like

Ejaaz:
if you tell anyone that um how many of these did you say are going to be in

Ejaaz:
the new new ship oh i want to.

Josh:
Say there's 31 to 33 something like that there's a good bit of right

Ejaaz:
Right so if you told me that hey, 33 of these two credit cards worth thick Raptor

Ejaaz:
rockets are going to blast 150 tons and much, much more probably in V3.

Ejaaz:
Up into space, into orbit, I would probably laugh at you. I would be like,

Ejaaz:
this thing is flimsy. I don't know if I could trust this. Why is it wiggling around?

Ejaaz:
There is no other company that is building like this, Josh. And I was trying

Ejaaz:
to think about, you know, other kind of competitors that come even near SpaceX.

Ejaaz:
And I just fall flat every single time. I think Elon and SpaceX and the engineers

Ejaaz:
and what they've built and what they've achieved to date is in a league of their own.

Josh:
Truly. There's nobody who's close. There's a lot of companies who are trying

Josh:
to build interesting things, but there is genuinely no one on Earth who's close

Josh:
in the sense that if SpaceX shuts down tomorrow, we have no space program.

Josh:
We have no easy and affordable way of getting satellites into low Earth orbit.

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We have no aspirations for becoming multi-planetary species.

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We have no redundant internet.

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If we lose connection down on Earth, we have no secondary network to exist in

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space. So it is very much a monopoly.

Josh:
And you could start to understand why when you see how complex these things

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are, how big they are at scale.

Josh:
And yeah, I love the image you're showing here because there's also really great culture there too.

Josh:
This is an image from their, I guess, from Starbase, right? Where they take these things off from.

Ejaaz:
It's to get into Starship. Actually, it's the top level.

Ejaaz:
And before you walk in, you see this painting, which is just probably the most

Ejaaz:
inspiring thing ever if you're an astronaut going up in one of these things.

Josh:
And it's this beautifully like hand-painted astronaut holding his hand out,

Josh:
starship in the reflection, standing on Mars.

Josh:
It's really amazing. And one of the funny things is a lot of people just,

Josh:
There's this disconnect between saying we're going to Mars and then actually

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understanding the downstream effects of getting to Mars.

Josh:
And I think a funny thing that I learned from following SpaceX over the years

Josh:
is that they actually have entire teams dedicated to coming up with life on

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Mars, meaning like here is everything we need to ship.

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Here is how the government structure is going to look. Here is how we're going

Josh:
to like distribute supplies. Here is how we're going to build the first base,

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the second base, the third base.

Josh:
And there are teams that have been doing this for years because they are so

Josh:
certain that their mission will succeed, that they will be able to get life

Josh:
on Mars. And they do have a rough timeline trajectory.

Josh:
I think first moon missions are going for 2028 and then the Mars mission around 2030, I believe.

Josh:
So within the next five years, people will actually, or at least rockets will be on their way to Mars,

Josh:
which is, it's just cool it's a really exciting thing yesterday's launch

Josh:
was amazing progress everything that could have gone right

Josh:
went right um and it was really a step in the right direction because

Josh:
the last couple of launches this is this was launched number

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11 they had some serious problems like there

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was one of the rockets it fully exploded prior

Josh:
to even getting off the launch pad a total detonation destroyed

Josh:
the launch pad they had to rebuild it there was another rocket that um

Josh:
when it tried to get pressurized it totally exploded so there's been a lot of

Josh:
problems along the way last night's flight was amazing everything went about

Josh:
as good as it could have and what we're going to see soon is they're going to

Josh:
try to actually catch the starship rocket which is going to be a really exciting

Josh:
development because once they get that thing caught

Josh:
We're on our way.

Ejaaz:
I really hope this happens in my lifetime. I hope that the cost of travel to

Ejaaz:
get to space is affordable enough that I can go with me, my kids,

Ejaaz:
maybe even my mom and kind of like see what's up and out there,

Ejaaz:
maybe even a colony on a different planet.

Ejaaz:
It's interesting, as we have gone through this conversation,

Ejaaz:
I kind of think as Mars is like the first step to all of this.

Ejaaz:
I remember when I was a kid growing up thinking like Mars was this like really,

Ejaaz:
really far off thing to happen. Definitely not in my lifetime.

Ejaaz:
And now it just seems like, you know, it'll happen and then we're on to the

Ejaaz:
next big kind of planetary jump.

Ejaaz:
Satellites getting out there, moving different types of payloads,

Ejaaz:
whether it's like telescopes that you mentioned earlier. I feel like it's all just phase one.

Ejaaz:
I can't even imagine what comes next. But I know that there's only one company

Ejaaz:
that is doing this. It is SpaceX.

Ejaaz:
They cut the cost of space flight initially down to, what was the falcon 9 um

Ejaaz:
cost cutting josh do you do you remember this they cut it down to like a 12th

Ejaaz:
or like 126 it's it's one of those numbers.

Josh:
It was some outrageously low number yeah of

Josh:
how how low it went relative to others there's also

Josh:
a video you just i'm going to send you that i would love to show

Josh:
because it's just um it's it's awesome to

Josh:
see the effect it has on other people

Josh:
like it's more than just a mission so one of the cool things is

Josh:
is the downstream effects of getting to mars means that we have

Josh:
unlocked a ton of new technology it means that we have um

Josh:
we're able to create food and life on

Josh:
another planet which means we need to have a lot of forms of portable energy a

Josh:
lot better battery technology a lot better agricultural technology

Josh:
but also this video that we're showing on screen it's like what's inspiring

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the next generation to want to do cool badass stuff like it's

Josh:
it's so fun being able to sit down and watch these launches and

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and see like these kids just sitting down and like getting super expired

Josh:
because for a long time when children when

Josh:
we're growing up like the thing they wanted to be was an astronaut that

Josh:
was the coolest thing and now the most popular answer is like oh i want to be

Josh:
a tiktoker i want to be an influencer and i really i mean personally i love

Josh:
the idea of people starting to get inspired by seeing things like this to want

Josh:
to do these ambitious things to build rockets to go to outer space to build

Josh:
satellites to give us internet from the stars like it's just

Josh:
More than anything, it's an inspiring mission. And thankfully,

Josh:
they've managed to put an economic engine on it to continue to fund the progress

Josh:
that happens and to continue to work on this mission of getting payload to orbit.

Ejaaz:
Where do I buy this stock? Honestly, I know it's still a private company,

Ejaaz:
but I need to get my hands on this.

Ejaaz:
Makes me very bullish, Elon, if I wasn't already bullish enough on all his other

Ejaaz:
companies, if I wasn't already clear about that on this show.

Ejaaz:
Josh, is there anything else that you need to share with us about this?

Josh:
Well, there's one more forward-looking thing that you actually mentioned this

Josh:
to me a little while ago, is that you're like, well, why can I not get to London in like 20 minutes?

Josh:
And this is very much that answer. It's like, if you are able to really just

Josh:
perfect the reusable rocket ship where you create this, an airplane,

Josh:
but for vertical takeoff and landing.

Josh:
I mean, when we were watching the launch last night, that starship went across the world in an hour.

Josh:
Like it was on the complete other side of the planet in an hour.

Josh:
So if you can create this technology and you can actually really refine it,

Josh:
produce it at scale, and you lower the cost to orbit down to $50 per kilogram,

Josh:
well, I would imagine the cost to low Earth orbit or sub orbit,

Josh:
which takes you up and then over and then into Europe, would probably be not that expensive.

Josh:
And you could basically get anywhere in the world in like 45 minutes or less.

Ejaaz:
So the funny part is, I think you could sell a lot of people on that.

Ejaaz:
I think a lot of people will start talking about sex would be super.

Ejaaz:
But if I told my mom that, like, hey, you could go to Japan.

Ejaaz:
It's been a dream of hers to go to Japan in 20 minutes. She would be down.

Josh:
Yeah. So I think that's an important thing they want to leave people with is

Josh:
it's not only about getting to Mars.

Josh:
It's the second order effects that come from understanding the technology to

Josh:
get to Mars, where we can mass produce these rocket ships.

Josh:
If we have all this new technology, it gets applied to a lot of really interesting

Josh:
industries, like the vertical takeoff landing rockets, where you and your mom

Josh:
can go to Japan for lunch and then come home before dinnertime.

Josh:
And like that's just an easy and normal thing so it leaves a

Josh:
a lot of, I think, optimism and excitement around for, for me.

Josh:
And I think for a lot of people who watch all of these launches,

Josh:
it's just, it's awesome to see there's more coming each as we were talking yesterday.

Josh:
We got to go to Texas, go see one.

Ejaaz:
We're going to go. We are going to go.

Josh:
Let's do it. Cause that'd be a dream. These things are early next year.

Ejaaz:
We're going to have it in the background as Josh and I live stream our updates

Ejaaz:
about it. I cannot wait. I need to get myself a SpaceX hoodie as well.

Josh:
Hell yeah. Yeah. We'll get matching hoodies and also Easter egg for anyone who's

Josh:
near texas um all there's a law in texas where all the beaches are public

Josh:
and starbase where they launch these starships the beach

Josh:
sits right next to the launch pad so you can

Josh:
actually go to the beach and be like less than a mile away from this gigantic

Josh:
rocket ship and really get a great view of it um and just see what it's like

Josh:
up close so when we go that's exactly where we're going and i am i'm really

Josh:
looking forward to seeing one of these in person because my god what what an

Josh:
exciting thing that would be i can't wait well tom cruise of top

Ejaaz:
Gun step aside there is a new cowboy he's a

Ejaaz:
space cowboy in town elon is leading the way on

Ejaaz:
spacex um i cannot wait for the next couple

Ejaaz:
of launches it seems to me that like every new launch gets that much less complex

Ejaaz:
but somehow way more powerful and somehow way more cheaper and i still i know

Ejaaz:
i keep talking about it somehow way more thinner um josh unless there's anything

Ejaaz:
else to say let's um let's round this up.

Josh:
Let's wrap it up that's it so the next launch is going to be version three this

Josh:
was the last launch of version two architecture the whole new the new launch

Josh:
is brand new everything about the internals are going to be new all this new

Josh:
stuff is rolling out we will be here covering it all the way um but until then

Josh:
that's been an episode on spacex starship

Josh:
launch 9 launch 11 launch 11 i'm losing track yeah it's 11 thank you guys for

Josh:
watching as always very much appreciated any final prompts before we go um

Ejaaz:
No but tell us if you enjoyed this space episode um josh and i i i consider

Ejaaz:
myself an amateur when it comes to these things josh is is super enthusiastic

Ejaaz:
and plugged in and i love learning from him but do you guys enjoy learning about

Ejaaz:
this stuff if not is there a different angle that we can cover are there other

Ejaaz:
space companies out there i already know the answer there is not.

Josh:
Let us know let us know well thank you for watching we'll see you guys in the next one