Clydesdale Media Podcast

Everyday we talk a minute out of our work day to hang out with friends, well lets take a few minutes on this holiday to hang out and chat as we celebrate Memorial Day and remember the sacrifices made for our freedom's  Today we talk about Murph, we talk about my plans for the syndicate Crown, and we open up the chat to ask me any questions you may have, as well as giving you my top 10 picnic foods of all time.

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We cover the sport of CrossFit from all angles. We talk with athletes, coaches and celebrities that compete and surround in the sport of CrossFit at all levels. We also bring you Breaking News, Human Interest Stories and report on the Methodology of CrossFit. We also use the methodology to make ourselves the fittest we can be.

what is going on everybody

welcome welcome to lunch

with the clydesdale we're

here on a memorial day um

yeah we're not working

today but we went ahead and

had a lunch hour so we

could spend some time with

you um after last night's

incredible show on sunday

night crossfit talk so

awesome to kind of get to

talk to everybody there um

it was really cool to have

justin cutler in the

comments as we were talking

about the alex kazan situation last night

His perspective on the whole

situation was really cool.

And if you miss that part,

I highly suggest you go

back and check that out and

see what Justin had to say

about all that.

Because while everything

seems to have turned out okay,

it might not have.

And he's definitely using

that as a teaching point

and a lesson learned with

Alex over this whole thing

and her story with the gummy.

so with that it's time for

the dart throw it's

memorial day maybe today is

the day I can drill this so

here we go damn it I'm

close it's not not too bad

I'm gonna go ahead and uh

show you where we landed and so

there's the picture.

I don't know if you can kind

of see it off there,

just off to the right,

a tiny bit from the bullseye,

but we are getting close.

Maybe I'll get one of these, uh,

sometime soon.

So, so yeah,

last night's show was awesome.

Um,

We played a game called Factor Fiction,

which really got Carolyn

fired up when we asked the last question.

And it was really about the

perceptions around the CrossFit space.

So if you did not see that, again,

last night was a really good episode.

Um,

we had some interesting people in the

chat.

We had, um, a really good time last night.

It's Memorial day weekend.

I think some people were

hanging out a little bit

longer last night as they

didn't have to get up for work.

Um,

but the first thing I did this morning

is I got up and I did my

Murph and I'm feeling it, feeling,

I'm feeling a little bit, um,

really feeling it in the legs.

And so what I decided to do

this year was to, um,

To scale it in a way that fit me best,

and so what I did is I did

an eight hundred meter run

not run eight hundred meter jog walk.

And I took Walter for a walk

on that eight hundred

meters came in and then did

the other half of the mile on a bike.

then I started to work on uh

the cindy version of ring

rows push-ups and air

squats and I got about

seventy push-ups in and

they they were starting to

go so I actually went to

knee push-ups from that

point on um so got through

all of that then I did a

half a mile on the bike

And then headed out, grabbed Walter.

We went on another eight

hundred meter walk, jog,

and I finished up.

And it took me about an hour,

to do everything this morning.

Um, but we got it in the books and, um,

I was able to honor, um,

the soldiers today on Memorial day,

which is what it's all about.

Um,

the people who have fought for our

freedoms in this country and, uh,

all the people that we have

lost in their effort to do so.

And, um,

Jason Ackerman posted this

this morning on his Instagram,

and I want to share that

because I love the sentiment behind this.

And it says, you can scale Murph,

you can partition, you can do half.

Just remember, it's not about the workout.

And I think that says it

pretty eloquently.

And that's kind of the

attitude I took to do it

this morning was I'm here

to honor the fallen soldiers.

Anybody who is a vet and who

is making that sacrifice

today or has already made that sacrifice,

they deserve me spending an

hour and twenty minutes

doing something that hurts a little bit.

And it'll probably hurt for

a couple of days,

but it can't hurt as bad as

some of the things that

they've been through.

and so um that was what we

did today so super pumped

for that I I did it last

year I think late after

memorial day because I'm

usually at an event on

memorial day weekend and

and so there was a lot of

years I didn't get it in

because of all of the traveling and um

standing around that we do

on cement but this year I

was able to kind of

schedule it figure out how

I was going to do it and I

got to do it with my my

little buddy walter today

and he was awesome through

the whole thing and uh yeah

we had a good time and it's

actually pretty nice today

it's in the sixties uh I

got to do that this morning

so not too hot um and got

through everything

pretty easily.

Um, but my,

the squats are going to be

hurting me soon and my

shoulders are going to hurt

from the pushups for sure.

Um,

But yeah, we got it in.

Hope you got yours in.

We talked about that last night.

Jamie and Carolyn did their

versions over the weekend.

Jamie did it on partition

this year with a vest just

because she is a complete

savage and is able to do so.

And she killed it.

She PR it.

If I tried to do it on

partition that you'd need a calendar to,

to,

time me because the,

the pushups would just re

two hundred straight

pushups would kill me.

Uh,

just a lot of mass for me to be lifting

up that many times.

Um, so the partition thing works for me.

It helps me get some things loosened up.

I can swing my arms around

on the air squats a little

bit to get those loosened up and, uh,

get back to doing pushups.

So hope you have a great one.

Hope you have a great Memorial day today.

Uh, and, uh, yeah.

So the other thing I wanted to do today,

um,

I haven't been doing a lot of top fives.

I did one last week.

Um, but I,

I wanted to do one for picnic

foods because one of the

best things to do on

Memorial day is to spend time with family,

um, and have some picnic foods.

Oh,

Kenneth says a volume and me don't get

along much anymore.

Yeah, I can, like, I'm actually,

for a big guy,

I like long workouts that I

can just get to a steady pace.

The sprint workouts get me

much harder these days than that.

And maybe, I don't know how old you are,

Kenneth, but like at fifty-five,

like just a good, nice,

long-paced workout is not bad for me.

I actually really enjoy it.

It's the it's the ten to

fifteen minute where I've

got to go a lot harder that

gets me real quick.

So today was actually kind of enjoyable.

Like I really did kind of

enjoy just kind of hanging

out with my earbuds in doing my thing,

walking the dog.

It was really, really cool.

So anyway, top five, top five,

top five picnic foods that

I've got to have at my

Memorial Day picnic today.

Honorable mention.

I love a good baked bean.

But it's got to be my baked beans.

I love the way I cook my baked beans.

And I actually put sausage

into my baked beans when I cook them.

So I chop up sausage pretty fine.

I'm usually in a casing,

that kind of sausage.

And I chop it up into the baked beans.

A little bit of ketchup,

a little bit of mustard,

a little bit of brown sugar.

And I...

do all that up and then I

bake them for a good ninety

minutes to get it kind of

caramelized and stuff in

there and that is my honor

honorable mention picnic

food so you see where we're going here

Now we're going to go to the top five.

Top five, number five,

all-time picnic food is the hot dog.

Got to have a hot dog.

Grilled hot dogs are so much better.

Actually,

over an open flame is even better

than that.

If you can get an

over-the-open-flame hot dog,

and we have a fire pit in my backyard.

Get a stick, get a hot dog,

get it over there.

Perfect hot dog, throw that in a bun.

I am not a mustard guy.

I am an onion ketchup guy

with some cheese.

That's my favorite.

Or if you have a good chili sauce,

I don't mind a really good

chili coney dog.

That's good too.

So number five on my list is the hot dog.

Number four is the veggie pizza.

If you've ever seen it with

the crescent dough,

you have like a dill...

creamy sauce over it and

then you put chopped up

fresh vegetables over the

top um that is the veggie

pizza that is that would be

my dessert for my my picnic

that is sweet enough for me

I don't need anything

sweeter than that um that

would be my dessert on my

picnic um yeah the broccoli

ones sometimes there's

broccoli on it sometimes

there's like shredded

carrot sometimes there's cauliflower um

Yeah, just fresh vegetables,

sometimes tomato.

You can put whatever you want on it.

That's kind of the cool

thing about the veggie pizza.

It's whatever fresh veggies you have,

the fresher the better.

So that is number four.

Number three is macaroni salad.

Um,

my mama Switzer's macaroni salad is so

freaking good.

Um, every time she has it, I, it is,

I am uncontrollable around it.

Um,

my wife has almost perfected the recipe.

Actually,

she has kind of perfected the recipe.

Um, and she makes it just as good,

but I cannot have it in the house.

So it is a,

like we make it and then we get

rid of it.

But it is Mama Switzer's

recipe for macaroni salad.

I don't know why it's

different than other ones,

but it's just creamier.

And it doesn't have as much

of that like mustard flavor to it.

But I really,

really love it and her macaroni salad.

Number two on the all-time

picnic list is coleslaw.

I am a coleslaw fanatic.

I don't care if it's the

vinegar-based or the

cream-based or whatever.

Whenever I am at a

restaurant and that is an

option for my side, I get coleslaw.

Coleslaw is just one of my

favorite things in the world,

so of course I'm going to

want coleslaw at my picnic.

That would be number two on

the list of all-time picnic foods.

Then number one, without a doubt,

is the hamburger.

I could eat hamburgers every

single day of my life.

I love hamburgers.

I can eat them without a bun.

I can eat them with a bun.

I can eat them just plain.

Um, and I am that guy.

I think I've said it on this

show that if it is a really,

really good burger,

I don't even need condiments.

I just want it to taste the

flavor of the meat.

And, um,

And that is by far my number

one picnic food of all time.

And

and and that's it yeah and

if it's a good burger I

don't need much on it but

if I'm gonna do just a

standard I want I want a

little bit of american

cheese and I want a little

bit of miracle whip and

some pickles and a tomato

fresh garden ripe tomato

that is the ultimate um

that is the ultimate burger

for me pickles garden ripe tomato

and uh and some miracle whip

maybe a little bit of

ketchup that's about it and

and again if it is really

good I don't need the

miracle whip and ketchup

the pickles tomato I'm good

um kenneth the lab didn't

realize how much I like

picnic foods dang all this

all sounds good jay birch

coleslaw banana pudding

brisket or sausage waldorf

salad sausage waldorf salad

I don't think I've ever

heard of though that combination

Brisket, it's weird.

I love brisket.

For some reason in my head,

I think of picnic as

different than barbecue.

I don't know why.

I don't know why I think that,

because I love a good brisket.

If it's a really good, moist,

juicy brisket,

there's nothing better in this world.

But in my head, I'm thinking barbecue,

not picnic.

And I will admit I'm

probably wrong on that.

Anyway, getting all choked up about that.

And I, and I said, like,

I'm probably wrong on that.

And brisket would be a picnic food.

I just, uh, yeah.

Yeah.

Thoughts on deviled eggs.

I love a good deviled egg.

That's probably right there in my... Yeah,

that's inside, outside my top five.

I just, for some reason,

didn't think of it.

I love deviled eggs.

My daughter and I joke that

if my wife makes them,

nobody else will get any.

Um...

Kenneth loves a good brisket,

don't we all?

Mama Switzer's in the chat,

bread pudding for dessert.

And I love my mom's bread pudding,

but I don't think of it as a picnic food.

Again, if you missed it, mom,

I am using the veggie pizza

as my dessert for my picnic.

That is as sweet as I really

need to get for a picnic.

I don't need something super sweet.

So I'm going to use the

veggie pizza for my dessert.

And my mom calls deviled eggs in liners,

and that means that they're

the food you can eat while

waiting in line for the rest of the food.

You just grab a couple

deviled eggs and pop them

in your mouth while you're

waiting to get through the

rest of the line.

so uh if you guys have any

other thoughts on what are

good picnic foods uh that's

that um if I were going to

pick barbecue maybe I'll do

a barbecue list at some

point um but yeah I I like

banana pudding my wife does

not like bananas at all

anything banana she is out

on um and I know jay birch

said banana pudding I know

that's a big southern thing too

And so my best friend loves

banana pudding.

It's one of his,

his like favorite things in the world.

Um, and I, and I love it,

but my wife just is not,

I'm never going to have it at my house.

If my wife doesn't like the food,

we never get to see it on

the shopping list.

And my mom can attest to that.

I haven't got to eat a pea in like years.

Jell-O used to be picnic food, right?

See, it's so weird.

Like I correlate things to

different things.

Jell-O or the generic Knox blocks.

When I was a kid was a swimming food.

When I would go to swim meets, I would eat

like the square knox blocks

or jello all day long

that's what I that's what

sustained my energy when I

was swimming and I would

eat them non-stop all day

long so I don't ever think

of it as a picnic thing and

if there's a jello type

dessert or jello something

at the picnic I avoid it

because it's a reminder of

my swimming days and I and I would

would over eat the knox

blocks on swimming days to

the point where I really

didn't want them any other

time of the year uh kenneth

says boiled peanuts never

had them both but the south

loves them I've had boiled

peanuts when I lived in the

panhandle of florida for

four years not a fan not a

fan at all it there who

wants a soggy peanut i

The reason I eat a peanut is

to get the crunch,

and when you boil the peanut,

it's not crunchy anymore.

Now, you're supposed to slurp the water,

and it's supposed to give

you this salty something or other.

Yeah, not a fan.

But if you travel I-ten from

Jacksonville to New Orleans,

you'll see boiled peanut

stands about every couple

miles on the side of the road.

I'm with jay birch they're

gross they're slimy uh that

and you'll see fried okra

everywhere too on that same

trip every gas station has

fried okra and talk about

slimy okra is about as

slimy as the boiled peanut

so yeah travel i-ten you'll

get all of that stuff

so the last thing I want to

talk about today um and

then I'm I'll take any of

the questions you guys have

for me any about anything

in the world we have a

little bit of extra time

today any question you have

throw me a question in the

chat and I'll answer it but

before we before I get to

that part I just want to

give you a little heads up

uh I'm going to talk about

the syndicate crown

Because it was my plan to be

at the Syndicate Crown,

and I just want to give you

a little peek into my life

and why I probably am not

going to make it to the

Syndicate Crown this weekend.

It was my plan to do that.

As you all know,

my wife went through total

knee replacement surgery on May sixth.

The plan was that she could

possibly be recovered by

the time that I had to go

to the Syndicate Crown.

She was going to come down

with me in the car because

this is the operation is on

her right knee.

And it means that she cannot drive.

While her flexion is almost at goal,

which she's supposed to get

to a hundred degrees of flexion to,

and then to zero, zero to one twenty.

She is at zero and she's at

like one sixteen degrees.

So she's only like four

degrees away from full

flexion and her knee already.

And we're not tomorrow.

We'll mark three weeks post-op.

She doesn't have the acumen

yet to be able to go from break to gas,

that flick of the ankle left to right.

While she can go straight

ahead with the flexion, she's good.

But that twist of the ankle

she doesn't have yet.

So I cannot leave her for

days without the ability to drive.

In addition,

she's still having some pain

in the knee where she has

to get it elevated.

So six hours in a car from

here to Knoxville doesn't

seem to make sense at this moment.

Now, if things change this week,

we can hop in the car.

We can get to Knoxville for

at least a couple days this weekend.

because she's off of work.

So she doesn't even have to take time off.

It would only be me.

And I have plenty of

vacation time to do that.

Um,

but it's looking like just with this

season of life.

And I knew that coming into

this season that I probably

would not be traveling as

much because of everything

that she had to go through.

We've been fighting for

years for her to get these surgeries.

And when we finally got approved,

that became the priority.

Not me getting to semifinal events,

not me getting to

qualifying events as much as I would love,

love, love to be there.

From two thousand twenty to

two to this year,

I've been to every North

American semifinal except

for the West Coast Classic last year.

It just doesn't look like

it's going to be in the cards for me.

I missed mayhem.

I'm most likely going to miss syndicate.

And that's just where we are.

That's where we are with our lives.

And for her to get back to

fully functioning with two great legs.

So, again,

I can't leave her with the

inability to drive,

and she can't come with me

if she can't elevate the

leg for six hours straight.

And then to be in a hotel

room without all of the

equipment and stuff that we

have for her would be really,

really difficult.

And the ability to ice and

do all of those things.

So unless there's a dramatic

change in her recovery this week,

it looks like I'm going to

miss being there in person.

and I'm really going to miss

it this is but again I know

that this is more important

my wife's health is more

important than me getting

to syndicate but that what

that means is I'm going to

be at I'm going to be at

the games I'm going to be

at the age group games for

sure and then the fall will

try to do some more stuff

Uh, like masters fitness collective,

maybe we'll try to get to

like water Palooza, SoCal, um,

some of those things,

and maybe we'll just start

picking up more in the fall as opposed to,

uh, doing the semifinal season this year.

so I'll just be watching all

the streams from four

different locations um and

covering everything from

that perspective and again

I have yusef is going to be

at syndicate taking

pictures and doing video so

you'll see some

collaborations with him and

I this weekend on all of

that stuff so we will have

a presence there

But other than that,

it looks like I'm out for this weekend,

and then we'll just pick

things up in the fall.

And thank you so much, Kenneth.

And ain't no thang,

just hang in the chat with

the rest of us.

And Jay Birch says family first,

of course.

Yeah,

and I knew that coming into the season.

It doesn't mean I don't have FOMO,

because I do,

but my wife comes first for sure.

And Kenneth says, hang in the chat.

You know, when I watch events, live events,

podcast, I'll be in the chat.

Live events, I cannot look at the chat.

I'm truly watching to get to

analyze what's happening.

And so I can talk about it

with Jamie and Carolyn on Sunday night.

And it's really hard for me to get,

if we're in between events,

I may dive into the chat a

little bit to see kind of

what everybody's talking about.

But for the most part on the streams,

I'm just watching the event itself.

so I'll be watching

everything that I can watch

this weekend I will be

talking about it with jamie

and carolyn on sunday night

of course and we'll break

down everything we saw who

got their tickets who

didn't um and we'll uh and

we'll see what's happening

uh jody lynn every party

needs a breather I'm sure

you'll look and get new a

new perspective yeah I and

I'm so excited like

I'm so excited to see where

this takes my wife back to

being fully healthy again and,

and her to be able to come

with me to events and to

help me do some different things,

have different angles of with the camera,

things like that.

Um, I can't wait till that happens again.

So,

so there's my announcement for

syndicate crown.

Um,

And then we'll be hitting

the circuit next year again for sure.

And probably this fall a

little bit here and there.

So there's that.

Um, I'm, I'm the last couple of minutes.

I'm going to open it up.

You guys can ask me a question, uh,

anything that you want

about what's going on in

space about my personal life,

about anything like that.

I'm here to answer questions today.

Um,

just have a little bit of fun before we

check out.

Um, but while, if you have some,

I'll wait for you guys to

come up with some in the chat.

But until then,

my wife and I started

watching Yellowstone again

to finish off the fifth season,

which is the last season

that's out there.

And it's a really different

perspective having a

daughter living in Montana

and watching that show now.

And actually having been in Montana myself,

and it was really...

It's been really fun kind of

watching that show with that perspective,

now seeing Montana and

knowing that my daughter lives there,

who I actually got to talk

to right before I came down here today.

And she's going on another

hike today to some waterfalls.

And so excited to get the

pictures back from all this

stuff she's doing,

but really excited for her

and really happy for her.

uh Kenneth says you guys hit

everything last night it

doesn't have to be about

CrossFit it can be about

anything anything in the

world um last night when I

was done with the show I

went up to I have to upload

the audio version to um

to get it out there on like

Spotify and iTunes and all of that stuff.

And so I have to like make

another thumbnail.

I have to get the audio up.

I have to do some finishing

touches on everything.

And I put the Knicks Pacers

game on last night.

And that is the most

basketball I've watched all

season on the men's side.

and what a game man carl

anthony towns was on fire

at the end of that game

really fun to watch um I

just love when when

athletes elevate to that to

that level of of dominance

in a moment and um it was

really fun to watch really

fun to watch and the knicks

needed it or they were

going to be out of the

playoffs soon for sure

Kenneth says,

you think Sprague can repeat?

I do.

I do.

I think he has improved

immensely where he had holes,

and he does have events

that he can be dominant at.

Like, he's a really good runner.

He's a really good swimmer.

If those things ever come back into play,

I think that...

He will dominate those

events because the people

that have dominated him in the past,

like Fikowski and Koski,

are no longer in the field.

And I really think that I think he could.

I think he's getting good

enough at the other stuff

that he will contend for

the title for a few years now.

I think the only thing that

will stop James Sprague is

James Sprague himself.

I think he gets bored easily.

And so he tries so many different things.

And like the example this

year is him and his,

his coach has had to talk

him down from doing a triathlon.

Instead of training for the games,

he wants to go do a triathlon,

and I think his coach has

convinced him that that is

not what's best for this season.

So it's those types of

things I think will prevent

James Sprague from competing,

not his CrossFit ability,

but his wanting to go try other things.

The guy qualified for world

championships in high rocks.

And he had to make the

decision not to do that and

to focus on his training

for the CrossFit Games.

It's those things that I

think could get in his way

because he's so talented in

certain areas that he's

going to have other

opportunities to do things.

And he has to make the

decision if this is his

sole focus and if he wants

to keep doing this over and over again.

Jody Lynn,

would you like to do any

swimming for supplemental exercise?

I can't wait to swim laps in my pool,

but it's grueling.

I would.

I would like to.

Finding a pool to be able to

do that is the difficult

part for me here.

there aren't a lot of pools

available for that,

but I have noticed that the

rehab center where I go get

my allergy shots every

Wednesday has like a two lane lap pool.

And I may look into how much

it would cost to get a

membership to that because

they do sell memberships to that gym,

which is the,

it's a hospital system here

in Columbus and,

but it's their rehab center

and they have the pool and

they have a lot of like the

machine type equipment

around um treadmills and

ellipticals and all of that

stuff plus the lifting

machines I'm definitely not

a crossfit gym but it does

have the pool availability

and I need to look into

whether that's something

that I can fit into my budget or not

But the fact that now in

Ohio you can use your

health savings account to

be able to pay for that

stuff may make that a

better opportunity for me.

So, yeah.

It is grueling.

But eventually your body gets used to it.

problem with swimming is it

uses muscles that you don't

really use in a lot of

other ways and so those

muscles hurt a lot in the

first few weeks that you're

swimming if you stay

consistent with that that

all goes away and it

becomes less grueling um

and I know that's hard to

trust in but it does happen

There's a lot of small

muscles that come into play

when you're doing just

basic swimming that you

don't use in like a typical

CrossFit gym or CrossFit workout.

And so you just have to use

them for a few weeks to get

them kind of back into

shape and back into play.

And then the gruelingness

kind of goes away.

And then the real big key

with swimming is you have

to figure out how to breathe.

Once you learn to breathe

where you don't have to turn so much,

it takes away a lot of the

grueling part of the stroke.

And that's a conversation I

had with like Hattie Cano

is that like she was

breathing way too high,

like turning her head

really high to get a breath.

You have to learn to breathe

in the bow wave.

And what that is,

is if you ever see a boat

go across the water,

there's a bow wave that happens.

And in that,

it's a small little wave that

actually creates a divot in

the water where the boat is.

When you're swimming,

when you're swimming fast enough,

your head is the point of

the bow of the boat.

And you actually create a

mini bow wave that comes

back the body as you're swimming.

And when that divot then

occurs in the water,

you just have to turn a

little bit to get free air to breathe in.

And the less you turn your head,

the more streamlined your

body stays throughout the stroke.

And then you actually become

more efficient in the water

and it becomes less grueling.

And that is the major

mistake that most CrossFit

athletes have when I watch them swim.

is they breathe really high

and that means their back

shoulder dips down in the water.

You become way less streamlined.

That means you're pulling

against the water instead

of trying to stay symmetrical and smooth.

And then it becomes really

grueling and physically

demanding because you're

not staying on top of the

water in a very streamlined position.

I would love to get back to

doing that again.

Um,

I just have to find the right

opportunity to be able to do that.

So is that all the questions for me?

And I'm sorry if I went into

way too much detail on the

swimming thing.

That's just the life I lived

for so many years.

Um,

eating my jello Knox blocks

and swimming for hours a day.

I kind of understand the

James break thing and I'll

finish with this.

When I was a swimmer, you swam,

I swam high school and I swam YMCA.

So the high school meets

would be like on Mondays and Thursdays,

I think.

And the YMCA swimming meets

would be on Saturday.

And then periodically you'd

have an invitational where

you could go to like a meet

and you signed up and you

paid to enter multiple different events.

So when you swam high school, when I swam,

there was a rule.

You could swim two individual events,

one relay.

And if you're a decent swimmer,

you swam two individual

events and a relay.

On the typical YMCA meet,

when you're going against another team,

the same rule applied.

You could swim two

individual events and one relay.

When you went to an invitational,

you could sign up for

whatever you wanted to sign up for.

So I would go to an invitational,

and I didn't want to be bored.

Especially in later years in my freshman,

sophomore, junior year of high school,

I swam freestyle for

everything and it was all

distance and I'd be so bored with it.

So when I go to an invitational,

I would sign up for

everything and I would swim

every single event to see

how I could do in the

events I didn't get to swim

so much during the year.

I would sign up for the

breaststroke event I would

sign up for the butterfly

event I would sign up for

the backstroke event I

would do the im um and then

I would do all the

freestyles and uh and

that's how I really those

are the events I really enjoyed

But those are the events

that I would house the

jello nox blocks because I

am swimming so much during

the day at such a high

intensity that I needed to

get calories into my system

as quickly as I could.

And I would get an upset

stomach if I ate normal

food because my nerves

would just be like churning all day.

so that's why I would eat

knox blocks all day long

and basically just jello

square jello square after

jello square after jello

square and that would keep

me going uh through those

long invitational days but

that's the most fun I ever

had swimming is when I

would just sign up for

everything and try to win

as many medals and plaques

or ribbons or whatever as I

could throughout the day um

But that's how it worked.

And I did that because I was bored.

And that's why I kind of

translate that to James Sprague.

It seems to me like he gets

bored with things and he

just wants to sign up for

something different to get

his mind in a different

direction for a period of time.

And I think that's the only

thing stopping him from

repeating is that

perception of boredom that

could come over time.

Well, thank you for the fun questions.

I hope you all have an

amazing Memorial Day.

I hope you have an amazing

picnic with really good food.

And with that, guys,

I'm not going to send you

back to work today because

you have the day off.

It's Memorial Day if you're

here in the States.

If you're in another country

and you have to go back to work,

my apologies.

With that,

We will see everybody next

time on Lunch with Clydesdale.

Bye, guys.