Mr. & Mrs. Inglis

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What is Mr. & Mrs. Inglis?

We’re right there with you. Welcome to The Mr. & Mrs. Inglis Podcast, hosted by Shaen and Meghan Inglis—a weekly show where we dive into real and honest conversations about the wild ride of raising kids, growing careers, and managing family and friendships in the middle of life’s beautiful chaos. So grab your ticket and join us for a weekly dose of camaraderie, connection, and a reminder that you’re never in this alone.

Follow and subscribe to the Mr. & Mrs. Inglis podcast and visit our channel and our website at shaeninglis.com to check out and follow our other podcasts. You can also follow Shaen and Meghan @ShaenInglis on Instagram, YouTube, etc. Feel free to share the Mr. & Mrs. Inglis podcast with someone who would enjoy and benefit from our weekly discussions.

(upbeat music)

I was either arresting

people or marrying people.

Here's a tangent to your

tangent of the tangent.

School sponsored make out sessions.

This is what it sounds like to me.

I was always too busy working it.

You get five minutes in the closet.

Yeah, no, no, no, no, no.

Yeah.

It's true colors haven't

shown in quite some time.

But I feel one coming in the air tonight.

It's my prerogative,

I can do what I want.

More or less just pointing out

that we've been lazy for a long time.

Just text yourself and

check, check, and then Chigaty,

check yourself.

I'll be up, Chigaty, check myself.

Was that it may have been the night of

the homecoming dance,

but nobody goes to the dance.

Yeah, 12 and a half, 13, I

mean, that's just way too long.

(humming)

Same.

(laughing)

You need to explain it.

Welcome to the Mr. and

Mrs. English Podcast.

I'm Megan.

And I'm Sean.

We're here to talk about

the wild ride of raising kids,

growing careers, keeping life together

in the middle of all the chaos.

So buckle up because we're all

in this crazy journey together.

Ah, did we start off the last one?

(laughing)

I think we may have.

Well, because we were in

Mexico, so we were already like,

ah.

Maybe it was one before

that we were just like,

because that was more of

like a really like, oh my gosh,

we're slowing down for just a moment.

And how different is this

moment from the last time

we sat down to do this?

I know, I know.

I'm really missing the, you

know, Latin music behind us.

(laughing) Yeah.

And the sound of the waves and.

Yeah, yeah.

Now you're getting into

the stuff I'm more missing.

I know, sorry.

The cabana, all the good stuff, yeah.

Oh my gosh.

But doing nothing.

How wonderful is doing nothing?

It is, it was really great.

I don't, it makes me feel

a little bit bad to say,

oh, it felt so good to do nothing.

Like does that, is that a sign that

you're a lazy person

that you like to do nothing?

I don't think so.

I mean, you and I have

talked about it, right?

Like if,

we couldn't just do nothing every day.

No, it wouldn't be fun.

You know, I think maybe a

lot of people think they could,

you know, and I think I could

do nothing for quite a while.

(laughing) I don't know how

that's gonna be, you know,

but honestly eight, nine days into it,

I'm sure I'd be like, well,

it's probably time to do something.

Yeah.

You know, that's why

this one was just perfect.

I mean, two or three days

of doing nothing left you

with just enough of like,

well, that was a good reset.

Yeah, yeah.

I'm missing the kids.

Yeah.

Because we were really missing the kids,

the first time we've been

away from them since our tenure,

which was eight years ago.

Right, right.

And this time I think

they missed us a little bit.

I don't know.

We keep trying to

convince ourselves they did.

I think they did a little bit too,

but I definitely missed them.

I mean, you know,

that's why I was saying,

I guess that was part of it too, right?

Like, could I relax?

I probably could have relaxed even more

if the whole family was there.

I agree, I agree.

And we were all relaxing together and--

But it wouldn't have

been that way because--

But it wouldn't have been that way.

My boy's like, do this, let's do that.

And let's go look at this and that.

Yeah, we literally, yeah,

that was fantastic to sit

and literally do nothing.

So maybe that was the

perfect just three night getaway

of doing nothing.

I, it was for us.

I mean, it certainly was for me.

It was so nice.

I probably could have

done it one more day.

I know.

I remember when we went to Atlantis

in the Bahamas a few years back

and we had gone to Disney

World like two years beforehand.

Yep, yep.

And we were there and what's the big one?

The Star Wars or--

Star Wars, where's Star Wars at though?

It's at--

Animal Kingdom.

Hollywood Studios.

So the Hollywood Studios one.

Yeah.

So the Star Wars one wasn't done yet.

And we're big Star Wars fans.

We're not Star Wars nerds by any means,

but we like Star Wars.

Yeah, we do.

And it wasn't done, so

we're like, gosh dang,

we gotta go back at some point in time

because all this stuff.

The Millennium Falcon was

there, so you'd kind of see that.

Oh no, it was just a picture.

It was just a picture.

We took a picture in

front of the picture.

You could see the

mountains and everything.

They were almost done.

It opened up like three

months after we were there.

So we had just missed it.

Maybe even a month.

So we said, we're gonna go back.

So we ended up going back

there two years after that

and we went for two days?

Yeah, two or three.

Two or three days.

It was two days.

Because we did one at Animal Kingdom

so that we could do the one ride again.

Avatar ride.

Avatar ride, which I still

think is my favorite ride.

Oh my gosh, that ride is so cool.

I love that ride.

So cool.

But we should clarify the VR Avatar ride.

Not the one where you're

floating on the laser beam.

Yeah, the floaty lazy

river one is terrible.

No offense, Disney.

Anyways, but yeah, the

one where you're like,

all five senses,

you're sitting in the thing,

you're almost riding a motorcycle,

you're riding an avid,

you're riding one of

the dragons, supposedly.

It actually gives you that drop.

The first time, the

second time not as much

because I expected it, but

the first time I was like,

I got the feeling in my

stomach, like I'm falling.

Yeah.

It's cool.

And like the seat even moves,

like the breathing of the,

what are those things called?

Oh, the banshees.

The banshees.

Yeah.

Oh my gosh, that one is so cool.

Yeah, so we did that one

because it was such a great,

cool, you know, Animal Kingdom's cool.

And then we went to Star Wars.

So we had one day in Star Wars

and we tried to hit everything there.

Probably should have

done it over two days.

Probably.

I think we got a little tired, maybe.

But that was perfect too,

because it was kind of

like this last little vacation

that we had, this little getaway,

because it was like, all

right, two days hard, guys,

at Disney and everybody

that goes to Disney, you know,

it's pretty hard.

If you know, you know.

But that's what we always,

I feel like we do that well with our,

here's what we do with our vacations.

I know this is a

tangent of a tangent now,

but we always, and the

first time we went to Disney

and we were with the

kids, we would park one day.

We do a park, hard, right?

You're there at park

opening and you close it down.

Fireworks, you know,

and then you head home.

And then you head home.

But the next day we

went to the pool all day.

Yeah, we just had a pool day.

Yeah, which is the way to do it.

Relax yourself, get

yourself charged up for the next.

Yep.

Right, the next park day.

That was exactly right.

And you planned that.

You're like, I think

we're gonna like it this way,

because you did all the,

well, you do all the

planning for all the trips.

I wasn't looking for

the pad on the back there.

Thank you.

More or less just

pointing out that we've been lazy

for a long time.

No, no, no, no.

We're gonna get the

thing that I've been lazy

while you plan our trips.

No, no, no.

And you do it so well,

because it really was

like the best balance,

but we've replicated

that outside of our trip

to Europe this summer,

which there really wasn't any,

there wasn't really

any downtime on that one.

But now I'm gonna go

back to the other tangent,

the first tangent,

because that's what we did

two hardcore days at Disney,

just to make sure we saw Star Wars,

since we just missed it.

Then we went over to

the Bahamas in Atlantis

and we stayed there

for a week and relaxed.

And that was perfect.

I mean, I think we need to

find more places like that,

because the kids loved it.

Loved it.

There was stuff for them to do.

We had already figured

out the whole cabana thing

by that point in time.

So we had our own home base.

Yup.

And that was fantastic.

So they could go, mom

and dad were at the cabana.

Yup, yeah.

Well, and there's water slides there.

Right, there's so much to do.

There's great beaches.

I mean, gosh, how long

did you follow a sea turtle

while you were just

snorkeling right off one of the beaches

with the kids?

I mean, like--

So cool.

It was, there was so much to do there,

but yet you could either

do a whole bunch of stuff

or do nothing.

And you would be

perfectly happy either way.

Yeah, but it was great.

Now that the kids are a

little bit older though too,

it's even easier,

because they don't necessarily want us.

I think they want us to,

but then it's like they're okay

if we're not doing it

every time with them

to go like down the water slide or

whatever it might be.

You know, so that was fantastic.

But all that to say,

like we've kind of

figured out this whole like,

just rest, go hard.

We did that in Costa

Rica and most places,

and you're right, when we

went to Italy and Greece,

there was none of that really.

No.

That was not a vacation,

but that was an incredible getaway.

It was incredible.

So we were not gonna go into that again.

But here's what I was gonna say.

Yeah.

And I've talked 90% of the time,

so I'll stop so you can talk.

But does that seem like

it was a million years ago

that we just had like a

very relaxing two days?

Yeah.

I mean, I need to go back.

I know.

I feel like we,

so we were raced into the

finish line to even get there.

And then we just,

I don't know, skydived

into then regular life

when we got back.

Yeah, with no parachute.

We just jumped.

We just head first straight down into it.

Yeah, I mean, this is the

first time that we've sat down.

I was gonna say, we've

sat together since then.

Yeah.

Yeah, we had, your parents were in town.

Yep.

And we had the actual homecoming

other festivities this weekend.

Actual, it was the actual dance.

If you will.

It was the date of the actual dance,

is how I should phrase this.

The homecoming dance, that's right.

Homecoming dance.

And we had everyone to our house

because the pictures were

being taken near our house.

I mean, it's, everybody

knows it's a big thing.

You do your pictures, you, anyway.

But I think what took us by surprise,

given this is our first time through it,

was that it may have been the night of

the homecoming dance,

but nobody goes to the dance.

I say this because

that's what we were told.

Like, I don't get that.

Quote unquote from

sophomores, nobody goes to the dance.

Nobody goes to the dance.

Well, then apparently freshmen do.

Yeah, well, and now I'm hearing

it's actually freshmen and seniors.

Oh.

So.

Then I heard someone say too, like,

oh no, people will go

over to take for 12 minutes.

Not 13, but like 12 minutes.

Yeah, well, 12 and a half, 13.

I mean, that's just way too long.

12 minutes max.

So I'm like, let me just

get this straight then.

We're going out buying a brand new suit.

She's going out and

buying a brand new dress.

You're doing all these stuff.

You're going to dinner.

Yeah, nails done.

Nails.

You're done.

Yeah, all the homecoming stuff,

but we're not actually doing homecoming.

Yeah.

So why are we going to homecoming?

Why are we buying all this stuff?

Right.

Makes no sense to me.

I mean, just like, I don't know.

You're going out to

eat and then coming over

to our house for a party.

That's exactly right.

That's all you're doing.

Why does everybody need

to spend $400 on that?

I don't understand this.

And so I reached out to the other mom

and I was like, so I

hear these are our plans.

The plan that I don't

hear about is the dance

because it's like we wanted to make sure

that all parents were okay with the fact

that there was no going to the dance.

Turns out all parents

were okay with that,

but that's not just for our high school.

That was, we then go to a

soccer game the next day

and other parents were talking about it

and how nobody goes to the dance.

I don't know if that's

a Texas thing too or not

because you're exactly right.

Just to back up that just slightly,

absolutely you and I are

on the same page there too

because I was like, can you

just text our oldest son's mom,

our oldest son's girlfriend's mom?

Don't text yourself the way I said it.

Just text yourself and

check, check, and then

chickadee check yourself.

I'll be chickadee check myself.

Yeah, you can chickadee check.

You can chickadee check yourself?

Yeah, microphone check one.

Microphone check two.

Check two, check check.

People that know know, okay,

but we're gonna go back to the story.

Because it's our son and

you want him to be chivalrous.

Yes.

Right?

Yes.

Chivalrous?

Chivalrous.

Yeah, I thought it, I could see it.

Chivalrous, you want him

to be chivalrous, right?

And be a gentleman.

And I didn't want it

happening at their house

that they're like, well,

your boyfriend doesn't want

to go to the dance.

Why is he not taking you to the dance?

He should take you to the dance.

Right.

You know, happening on both sides.

We were definitely on

the same page saying that.

But then, and all the parents

were like, what is going on?

Yes, we all thought this was strange.

Because for pictures,

everybody came to our house.

Because there was a

little pond in the neighborhood

near us that we went down

to, it was really pretty.

It was fun for the kids,

great pictures and stuff.

But every one of them was,

we all were all kind of still

touching base with each other.

Are you sure?

This is weird, right?

No dance?

I know, we all thought this was weird.

Yeah, yeah.

And then, lo and

behold, the next day we go

to a soccer game and

all over the Metroplex,

they're like, yeah,

my kid's at homecoming.

We're like, oh, did they go to the dance?

No, no one goes to the dance.

I mean, we're here.

No one goes to the dance.

For you one.

Yeah, is that a Texas thing?

Maybe it's a Texas thing, I have no idea.

I don't know, mums and no dance?

Mums and no dance.

I don't know, I don't know.

Because this really did make me feel

a little old fashioned.

It did. At least.

It did.

Right?

It did.

Back in my day, we went

to the homecoming dance

and danced.

Well, yeah, and I

would think that in Texas,

they would want to go,

like that of all places

seems like the place where

you'd want to have a dance.

I don't know, because I

think about line dancing.

There's a lot of that

here, you know, like.

Mm, mm.

I don't know, I don't know.

Maybe it's because

they don't have, I mean,

I think of all the

awesome songs that we danced to

in the 80s and early

90s when we were going

to school dances.

So many, that was like the era,

and here's a good tangent for you.

Okay.

Everybody remembers

watching on, you know,

it was probably later at

night or maybe during the day

or whatnot, but you

remember when they would like

advertise on television

sets of CDs that were,

the one I'm talking

about is like the love one.

It's Reflections of Love.

And Body Language.

Oh yeah, oh Body Talk.

Body Talk.

Oh, I remember Body Talk.

So because there were so many great,

I should go get those CD

backs and just read them off.

I've been listening to it lately.

I've been in the mood,

it's on one of my playlists.

It's my love song playlist.

I have been hearing it

while you've been in the shower.

Oh my goodness, yeah,

there's been a lot of it lately.

And some of those are a little bit older,

but like Die in Your

Arms Tonight, I mean,

there's just so many.

You go through Phil

Collins, Genesis, Whitney Houston.

I mean, you just, classics, classic songs

from that time period,

which meant we had lots

of great love songs

because ultimately, right?

I mean, like you may not remember

because you went to the

dance with your friends though,

but I mean, did you

guys go out and dance?

So my experience would

have been totally different

because the only

dances I went to were ones

that I literally had to

work at because when I was one

of the people on the

committee hosting it,

I had to work it.

So did you get--

Now that's not like a Ru Paul work it.

You weren't working.

I wasn't at work, no, I actually was.

And I'll give you a little,

this is now a tangent to another tangent.

So we had what was

called the Sadie Hawkins dance

and that's where it's

called different things all over,

but it's where the girls ask the guys.

And it's, I have no idea

the Genesis of Sadie Hawkins,

who this girl was or

whatever, but it's more of like a

country.

It was called Morp, where I'm from.

Yes, yes.

It's opposite prom.

Yes, I've heard that,

yes, okay, thank you.

But at this dance, there

was, you put together this jail.

And so if the couple isn't holding hands,

then you have to put

the guy goes into jail.

And to get him out, you

have to either give him a kiss

or you have to pay.

So you were either working to find people

who weren't paired up on the dance floor,

it was different, you

didn't have to hold hands

on the dance floor, but if you were

walking around the dance,

you had to hold hands.

Was it normal to encourage PDA,

think about the Grease movie,

here's a tangent to your

tangent of the tangent.

But Grease movie,

there was kissing booths.

Yeah.

You know, you weren't how

herpes of the mouth spreads.

That's how it happened.

Anyways, back to yours.

Well, I think usually it was more like,

you give him a kiss on

the cheek, was more or less.

But then we also had a chapel that you

could get married in.

And so I was either

arresting people or marrying people.

I was either a policeman

or a priest, I was both.

Wow, there's a lot to unpack at your,

this backwards dance

of yours, Sadie Hawkins.

It was a lot of fun, and that's why

people like to do it.

Cause there were all these

just kind of like fun things

to do at the dance.

And so I had to...

School sponsored make out sessions,

is what it sounds like to me.

I guess.

Yeah.

I don't know, I never had a date.

So I was always too busy working it.

Yeah, did you guys

play spin the bottle tool?

Or maybe it was like,

hey, you get five minutes

in the closet.

Yeah, no, no, no, no, no.

For the record, there

were parent chaperones.

Yeah.

And so, if you couldn't do

it in front of your parents,

you shouldn't be doing it.

I just want to go out there and say that.

There was a parent or a teacher chaperone

right at the gate of the jail.

So like, it was like a very

G rated peck on the cheek.

So I was just thinking,

I was just trying to think back to my

homecomings and proms.

And it was like, I don't,

we went to all the dances for sure.

But I don't remember

the dances being like,

clearly they weren't like

Grease dances or like any,

there's no high school

musical happening in real life.

At least where I grew up, right?

I mean, the dance floor was

not full most of the time.

Maybe, you know, the really outgoing kids

were doing the worm or something goofy.

Maybe, yeah.

You know?

But the only time

people ever got out there

was to slow dance, right?

And then so

everybody's just doing the rock,

the two step rock or

whatever you call it, you know?

So my whole point to

that whole thing was,

they don't have any love songs these days

that I'm aware of,

other than like maybe

some Taylor Swift songs.

Yeah.

So I mean, like there's no, you know,

that's the only time

people got onto the dance floors

when I was there.

Was with the love songs.

Was with the love song.

And they don't have

those kind of, you know,

Phil Collins hasn't made a

new song in a while, you know?

Yeah.

His true colors haven't shown

in quite some time.

Oh, that was well done.

I was actually trying to

find one to fit in there.

I'm actually kind of excited that I

worked that in there.

That was good, that was good.

Yeah, but I feel one

coming in the air tonight,

but that's okay.

I mean, we could go on with Phil Collins.

Apparently you could, I can't apparently.

I can see his CD cover in

my head of his greatest hits

and all that, like Sousa Studio and all

those kind of things.

But I was trying to find

the light in the air tonight.

Yeah, yeah, you got it.

Anyways, so that's

where I was going with that

is maybe there's just,

their music today is not,

you know, like Golden's huge right now.

Like they're all,

everything's like a party song.

It is, yeah, yeah.

Although we did have quite

a few non-love songs, like.

Oh, they did, they played those,

but nobody danced to those.

Yeah.

You know, nobody's doing the Roger Rabbit

or, you know, the Running Man, you know.

Unless you're in like a

Bobby Brown video or something

like that, maybe you are.

Both played.

Both played, was Bobby Brown on any

of those body talk CDs?

I don't know, you know,

every little step he took.

I don't know, we should do a

whole thing of that, you know.

I mean, it's my

prerogative, I can do what I want.

Oh my gosh, that was pretty funny.

That's really bad, so anyway.

So I guess we're getting,

we're kind of tying the,

you know, coming around

with tying it up with Hoko.

But it was really cute

to see them and, you know,

even I, it was so funny

because I made a little

Instagram reel of our oldest.

And I literally, it was so funny because

I had just posted it.

In like, within 10 seconds you called me.

And you called, why?

And I called because it made me,

like I just started

crying when I watched it.

I just, I think at the

time, so it was so busy, right?

We had, and I think we

were so focused on all,

or at least I was so

focused on the things that needed

to be done that day.

And I enjoyed the

moment while we were there,

taking pictures, it was

gorgeous and all of that.

But what I didn't really let sink in was

the passage of time.

And seeing the reel and

seeing pictures from like a,

out of that moment perspective.

And I saw a young man.

Yeah, big time.

And that was all I saw.

There was not the little boy anymore

in any of those pictures.

And even still it's

hitting me really hard.

It hit me like a ton of bricks.

And it was like, I

never let it sink in that,

I mean, this is, this is

his, this isn't his childhood

anymore, this is him growing up.

Oh yeah, he's a, yeah,

sophomore, you're right.

I mean, a sophomore, I told all our kids,

sixth grade was kind of

the first time I realized,

kind of a person now.

I remember, it was kind of mostly me,

it's most infantile point, right?

But I was mostly me in sixth grade.

I kind of remember

that, coming to that one,

and I grew and all that

stuff since then, similar.

I don't know what your

age group was for that,

but for sure by sophomore

year, I mean, they're there.

I mean, he's doing his life.

Yeah.

You know, and you scared me

when you called me though,

because I had just

put it up and I'm like,

oh shoot, did I just

post something wrong?

Did I put a picture on

there I shouldn't have,

or did I mess up?

But after you said that, I rewatched it

in the exact same

thing, like tears to my eyes,

because when I put

them up, it's almost like,

everybody else has already done it,

I'm two days behind, I

just got to get this thing up.

And of course, I chose an old song,

Forever Young by Rod Stewart,

which all those old songs, they tear,

they just tug at my heart,

strings and stuff like that,

and you watch it and

listen to it and take it all in,

yeah, it was just like,

he's growing into a young man.

And what I love about it is

that there's pictures in there

that he's showing his,

he's got real smiles in there,

he's got real laughs with his friends.

Yep.

It wasn't because dad was being goofy,

it wasn't because mom told a funny joke

or anything like that,

it was because he was

enjoying the time with his friends.

And we were just--

Bystanders.

Bystanders in it.

Which takes me to that

reel that I saw last night.

Oh gosh.

That was said, you, we

raise, what did it say,

do you remember?

We raise the people

that we can't live without,

to live without us.

That's right, we raise the

people that we can't live

without, so that they

can live without us.

Yeah, and I was just like,

yeah, this is where we're at.

And it was crazy, I didn't

even, I mean, it was fun,

and it was exciting on

Saturday when all this was happening,

but that emotion didn't hit

me until I took a step back.

And I saw it so plainly that here we are,

just taking pictures of his life.

Like we were just the bystanders there.

And it was okay, it's not like we're,

you're mad, but it's

a natural transition,

but it just hit me like a ton of bricks.

Did I talk about that

last week on the show,

that I had that conversation with him?

I know I was telling

someone else about it,

but we were just at

that point where it's like,

I get it, you're going into a young man,

and we've always said this,

we've heard this from other people too,

that at some point,

I'm still at the point

where I can't imagine not

having our kids in our house.

I know I've said that on here before.

But at some point, the way

life works is they gotta go.

They do.

You know, and I hope that this is wrong,

and that I never want my kids to go,

because there's quote too

many adults in the house.

Yeah, yeah.

But at some point that may

or may not happen inevitably,

and that's the way nature works too,

is that you gotta break away.

They have to do that.

They're gonna go either way,

but I hope it's in a way

that it's like tears and hugs,

and I'm proud of you, and go

get them, spread your wings,

you know what I mean,

versus you gotta go.

Yeah.

You know what I mean,

like, whatever you do,

you gotta get out of my house though,

because you know what I mean?

Yeah, yeah.

And I think, you know, I don't think

that's always reflective of the way you

raise someone either,

because that's just, at some point

they're their own person.

They can make their

own choices, good or bad.

Yeah, yeah.

Normally they come around, I think, but.

That's what I hear.

They're raised right.

I hear that they do come around.

Someone that I was talking to one time,

who has three kids who have all,

like, oldest is in college, right,

and the other two are

working, career-wise.

And they called it,

especially that last year,

they call it, like, soiling the nest.

I was like.

And that paints a picture.

Wow, okay, that paints a picture,

but they're like, it really is like that,

it gets kinda harder as

it gets closer to the time,

and I think there's probably a lot of,

I'm sure every psychiatrist or

psychologist right now

is like, oh yeah, there's

a total reason for that,

but they said that those

last few months get really hard.

And that's kinda the final straw,

usually of like, yep,

you're gonna go to college,

and can't wait to see

your Christmas break.

I bet they do, and that's

where I was going with that,

is I had a conversation with our oldest,

three, four weeks ago,

probably, three weeks ago, maybe,

where he didn't think I handled the

situation very well.

Nothing negative, and I

could tell he was trying

to kinda be adult about

giving me some feedback,

which was great, and

I was okay with that,

but it was just kinda bordering on,

because I know he was

trying to figure it out,

but it was bordering on

just being a little bit

disrespectful, and really,

I think there was emotion

behind it from something

else that was pushing it,

and so it just kinda made

that come out a little bit less,

you know, maybe finely

tuned or as respectful

as he would have liked it,

because we've talked

about it since, obviously,

but it opened the

door to me saying to him,

like, buddy, this is hard for me to say,

and I know I get it, but

it's okay, I understand,

I'm gonna go from being

Superman in your life,

trying to be, you know,

to I'm gonna be subbed out

onto the sideline, you

know, and I get that,

and I'm okay with that,

because that's what's supposed to happen.

It's supposed to.

And you're gonna put your friends

into that number one

spot, they're gonna be

what you turn to and this and that,

but I just ask of you to

not ignore me on the sideline,

you know what I mean,

don't shut me out out there,

you know, I want to be that dad that,

you know, everybody wants to

be that parent that's like,

oh, you don't wanna be the parent that

dad's gonna kill me,

I can't tell him, like,

shoot, I gotta figure out

what's dad gonna, you know,

dad will know how to fix this.

Yeah, yeah, yup.

And that's where you hope, again,

that's where you hope

we've done it right,

I've done it right, you've done it right.

And there is no manual for this.

Like that, I mean, we

say that, we all know that,

every kid is different,

every parent is different,

every situation is different,

and it's just like,

the stakes are so high,

I think this is why I get so tired,

because the stakes are so high with that,

and it's like, if I

don't respond appropriately,

what is the damage that

I'm going to cause, you know?

It's just, like, I don't

know, I struggle with that.

You know, here's my thought,

my first initial

thought right off of that is,

I think you're gonna be okay,

I think you're doing really good.

And partially why I say that is because,

kids are incredibly resilient,

you see kids that have grown up in

horrific households,

horrific, they don't know different,

and they love those people that are

taking care of them,

even if those people are doing things

they shouldn't be doing to them,

they're not taking care of them,

they're not

providing, they're not loving,

they still, kids still connect with them.

And sometimes to an

incredibly unhealthy level,

where they don't want to

be taken away from that

horrible situation.

So I always, in the back of my mind,

when I think like, "Gah, I'm just,

"I'm dropping the ball."

You know what I mean?

I think about those

situations to some degree,

not that that's a

measuring stick by any means,

I'd like to think we're a

little higher than that,

and I know you are honey.

(laughing)

But that's where it's just

like, you hope you do okay,

and, you know, like we said

to him just this last week,

I've already taught you

what's right and wrong.

I don't have anything else to teach you

about how to be a kind

person, a moral person,

the difference between right and wrong.

In our household, we've

got that thing upstairs

that talks about the

fruits of the spirit,

right next to

something about just how to be,

traits of being

successful, right next to another one

about just going out and

being a king or a queen,

just really digging in

and pumping yourself up.

So I mean, at some point it's like,

we've given you everything we can,

we're just trying to steer

you in that one direction,

please, please, please.

Please go that way.

That's exactly right,

that's exactly right.

And it's a little scary,

although we did say this

quite a few times throughout the years,

we're like, people way

less equipped than us

have done this just fine.

Like, so hopefully we're okay.

Do we say that or that seems like,

way less equipped, how do we define that?

You know, there's people who, you know,

had kids when maybe they

weren't ready to have kids,

and it popped out a little

bit sooner or later or whatever.

I was trying to put

you in a spot to like,

seeing anybody out.

Period, and ended up with kids.

You're talking about Mike and Mary,

is who you're talking about.

Oh yeah, Mike and Mary, obviously.

Well, we know Mike, I

shouldn't use that one.

Yeah, but we don't know a

Mike and Mary to a Mary.

Right, right.

You know, a Jesus and a Joseph.

And Mary, yeah.

God, if I know them, I mean, you know,

like we've read about them.

They're in my heart.

Deep down in my heart.

What's the next line I

wish I could remember?

Don't let Satan get it out.

Oh yeah, there you go.

Just let that light shine, hon.

That little light,

that little light of mine.

Of yours, yep.

Needs to shine.

So that was fun.

So that's all that Hoko stuff.

It was great to get

to know their parents.

Yes.

Because there's a

couple of such parents there.

So we got to see, we

got to meet some parents.

And that's always, it's not awkward,

but it's a little awkward.

I was trying to think

back if my parents ever met

like my girlfriends in high school.

Yeah.

Parents.

And I know they did at some point, but.

Well, yeah, I think,

I know that they have,

because your mom's still

friends with some of them,

but one of them.

With one of them, but yeah,

I think she did her hair

or something like that.

That's why that one was.

Until way after we

were no longer a thing.

But I don't think they

ever came to what we just did.

They took pictures of me, I thought,

by myself at the house.

And then when I went to the other place,

I think they got

pictures from other people.

Oh, okay.

So that was a little

different than how we did it.

I could be misremembering that too,

but it was totally different.

I was actually telling your parents this

while they were there.

Wow, there's all these things going on.

But I mean, everybody knows this.

I mean, how funny.

It's just so

different now with the cameras

we all have on our back pockets.

Yep.

Right?

I mean, I took 160 pictures probably.

And I'm never gonna go through them

and erase the bad ones, ever.

But when we were in high school,

it was literally, you

had a 24 on that roll.

And maybe you already

used two or three of them,

so you got 21,

because you're not gonna

put a whole nother roll

in while you're there, right?

It's true.

You don't have a chance to check it.

So you get your 12 best poses,

and it's like, well,

maybe I'll save five of these

pictures for something else.

(laughing)

You get what you get,

and you don't get upset.

Don't get upset.

Yeah, because you're never gonna know

if they're good pictures or bad pictures

until after they're developed.

Right.

So when I took the kids out,

so I drove the kids to

their restaurant afterwards.

And then I drove them

back the whole way there,

and I think a lot of the way back,

and I know there was some discussion

about what happened at the restaurant,

they were going through the pictures.

(laughing) And I know some posts

were made in that meantime,

whatnot, you know, so

they were constantly

leaning over, showing

each other the pictures

and stuff like that, so.

That's so funny.

That is this generation.

It is?

Whereas ours was,

pictures are over, done.

Doesn't matter, we're

never gonna see them.

Right.

Like, I literally have two

pictures from prom, probably.

One's because I had a crazy girlfriend

that threw most of it away.

Yeah, which is crazy.

By the way, thanks for that.

Yeah, thank you.

Because it matters now, right?

Jeez.

But, well, I'd like to see them.

I know, that's what I'm saying.

I would've, those were my memories.

Those were your memories.

That still makes me mad.

Well, next episode,

we'll get deep into that.

Yeah.

But that wasn't a big

deal for us, though, right?

The pictures at the time,

it was almost like we

had to check that box.

Everybody stand on the staircase.

Yeah.

You know, okay, now

everybody put your arm around them.

Obviously, when you and I were there,

we just did a little, you

know, small flowers, corsages.

Yes, yes, you have to

have the flower exchanged

to the boutonniere and then the corsage,

the wrist corsage or whatever.

Like.

And then we went on,

then we got in the limo

or someone drove us or whatever it was.

You went to the dance,

or you went to dinner,

then the dance, and then maybe to

someone's house afterward.

That's exactly.

Yeah.

That's exactly what it was.

Yeah.

Back in the good old days.

Yeah, yeah.

That's, I mean, it's a big part of it,

back in those good old days.

Although when I was looking at the reels,

I did notice a couple pictures.

There was one where I was like, you know,

I was tying his tie and

there's another boy here,

our oldest son, our oldest son's friend,

his parents weren't

actually able to be here for it.

He didn't know how to tie a tie either.

So I was teaching them

both how to tie a tie.

I tied his tie for him, you know,

and then, you know,

just some of those things

that you pass on, like, you know,

the right buttons to

button on your jackets

and stuff like that, so.

Yeah.

There was a picture of

me talking to our oldest

or doing something with the tie, right?

You probably took it

or our daughter took it

because I know both

of you are taking some.

I look so old, I'm like looking down,

I'm like, oh my wrinkled

chin, like what is going on?

No, it's horrible.

I was like, that was one of

the first ones I looked at.

That's a picture that I,

one of my first pictures I looked at

and I really thought,

wow, time is hitting me.

Because these are the years.

Didn't we just recently hear somewhere

that it's like the years 46 to 52

that life just crushes you?

I didn't mean to hear this.

From like an aging perspective.

Oh, I didn't hear that,

but I mean, I believe it.

I feel like I turned 46 and just.

I must have heard it independently,

but it's like somewhere in there,

most people look very young, excuse me,

most people look very young,

even the young looking

ones look really young

until they get to about 48-ish.

And then between like 48

and like 52, 46, 53, 54,

somewhere in there, old man

time turns the page on you

and you start looking.

Because most 50 year

olds, they look 50, right?

And I don't mean to offend anybody there,

but I mean, I could say most people,

or I can nail their decade, right?

And 50 year olds are a

little bit easier to pick out

than a 40 year old versus a 30 year old.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And I think that's

because father time is.

Just like hits you with a pan.

And I think I'm being

hit, I've just noticed.

And I'm not looking for anything there,

but I did notice in that picture,

because I was looking down and I'm like,

oh, look at those, I look like a,

what are those dogs that all like wriggly

and stuff like that?

You do not look like a Sharpay.

So now it's like, I

gotta get the nip and tuck.

That's what I'm saying.

Gotta get the nip and tuck.

Little bit of nip.

And a little bit of tuck.

Little bit of tuck.

I don't know.

That is the one piece of plastic surgery

I would totally have.

You have a family history.

If I have that genetic

thing where we called it,

so my grandmother had it,

and we called it her gobble,

and I remember being

a kid playing with it.

And so if I get that.

You played with it and she let you?

I don't think she liked it.

I was probably pretty young.

You were like, look at your gobble.

If I get a gobble, I 100%

am getting that removed.

I am not too proud to have

that bit of plastic surgery.

Ain't too proud to beg.

I ain't too proud to beg.

That's not the name of the song.

It's not?

No, is it?

Yeah, it is.

I thought so.

Is it Salt and Pepper?

It's Salt and Pepper.

I thought it was like My

Man or something like that.

Maybe it is Ain't Too Proud to Beg.

I was just trying to

throw out another song.

I know.

A little throwback there.

I do like this.

We should just

interject random 80s, 90s songs.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I've done a couple of

lyrics here and there.

Yeah, that's one, depending

on what age you are in you.

But I feel like I'm

getting a gobble before you do.

Anyways.

Yeah, you're not.

But you have two years on me, just wait.

Oh my gosh, if I'm 48 and--

I'm just nervous what the next two years

are gonna do to me if

I'm just really seeing it.

Because I've said it before on here too,

not to get into this stuff too deeply,

but it's like I've just,

there aren't very many

thin men in their 50s either.

You know what I mean?

Or women.

Or, you know, what's the word, not thin,

but sleek, still kind of tight.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, like really fit.

Well, even fit.

But I mean, and I think a

lot of that is just because

we're just in the middle of our highest

earning potential years.

There's zero time, we

talked about it a little bit

last week, you can only pick

three of the top four things.

Exercise does get kicked to

the curb a lot of the times

in this scenario.

And it's not until you, after you retire,

that you have that ability and time

to get yourself back in shape.

So it's like, your dad

was in really good shape

when he was, after he retired.

But I did see videos of him in his 40s.

And he was not in that same shape then,

you know what I mean?

And I'm not throwing him

under the bus or anything,

because he was working

and raising kids too.

Same thing we're doing.

So I just see that so

much of myself right now,

where it's like, I'm

skipping so many workouts.

I'm not consistent in the

last, since I hurt my knee,

since you hurt your knee,

this has been a tough year.

And I am just not taking that weight off.

So I mean, you know, I

haven't moved up in belt sizes yet,

but I mean, I feel

like I'm getting close.

And I still wear what

I wore in high school.

Yeah.

And, you know, one inch

a year from here on out,

it's not good.

So I also still wear

what I wore in high school,

or even before.

And so much so that when we were,

when my parents came,

they brought a whole

bunch of like pictures

and all kinds of stuff of my memorabilia,

whether I want it or not.

I got it, yay.

But there were pictures of me

and I was wearing clothes

that I still wear today.

In fact, our daughter was like,

yeah, you wore that

sweater just like yesterday

or like last week.

Yeah, it's a vest turtleneck.

I mean, it's hard to miss.

No, it's a sleeveless turtleneck.

(laughs) Okay. A vest?

You're right, yeah, yeah, sleeveless.

What are they thinking?

Like a tank top.

I was thinking tank top. Yeah, yeah.

Tank top turtleneck.

TT.

TT, tank top turtleneck.

Yeah, there's not a lot of those.

That might be a one of a kind in fact.

Okay, here's the thing though.

I get so many compliments on it.

And I did back then too.

I was like, that thing is--

No, it looks great on you.

25 years old. You wear,

it's not like you're

sleeveless in it though.

Do you wear a sleeveless?

Yeah, it's a tank top.

Skin?

Like you have bare shoulders?

Yeah. Yeah, okay.

I mean, it goes out

like it's work appropriate.

It's not like

spaghetti straps or anything.

No, it's not.

Yeah.

So there's spaghetti

straps to a turtleneck?

Yeah, I don't know

what that would look like.

Then it's like one of those

things that cousin Eddie wears.

It's a total dicky.

Dicky, is that what that's called?

Oh my gosh.

You're gonna sing.

I'd have to call you out on that one.

That would be really stupid.

Oh my gosh.

Anyway, but I still have those things.

Yeah, we didn't leave

ourselves enough time to go there.

We'll have to go through that

because I know there's

generations that listen to this.

And if you're the older generation,

you've probably

already started pawning off

all the stuff that was our

generations to your kids.

Like you've given it back to them.

Like, oh, here's a tub

or here's all the boxes

of all your junk, your high school,

your childhood stuff.

Cause we helped out,

we held onto it forever,

which we're doing the same thing.

All that stuff's upstairs

in our attic right now too.

And one day.

Yeah, so heads up kids,

it might be episode 984

that we're gonna present it to you.

Yeah, exactly.

Cause we'll still be doing this.

We'll still be doing this.

We're gonna get to a thousand

and then we're gonna stop.

I do the math to figure out how old

we're gonna be at that time,

but yeah, that just seems too hard.

Yeah.

Mapping is not working for me right now.

Yeah, the mapping, yeah, it's been,

like we said, we started out with this.

We have not sat down.

This is the first time

we've sat down together

since we were in

Cancun and it's been crazy.

You were so right when we took off

for the last flight to come home.

After our layover, you're like,

"Well, enjoy your last bit of rest."

And you were right, you called it.

Yeah.

You called it.

Well, I mean, that's not news to me.

I hear that often.

Kidding.

You know everything.

No, I don't, I definitely don't.

I definitely do not, so.

Well, what else?

Well--

As we round this thing up.

As we round this out, I mean,

I don't think the crazy

train is stopping anytime soon

because this weekend

you're headed to San Diego

with our youngest.

Four days, four days.

I know, because, you know.

Friday through Monday.

We don't have to have jobs

to pay for all this stuff.

I don't have a job, yeah.

Like, to pay for all this travel,

you do realize we

have to be employed to--

Yeah.

Yeah, it's crazy.

And we still don't, and the craziest

thing about it to me

is we still don't

know when we're playing.

So our flight back's on Monday.

I looked, it's not uploaded yet, is it?

I haven't seen it.

So we just had to buy a

random flight on Monday

because we don't know what

time we come back on Monday.

Yeah.

Which is crazy to me.

I know.

Again, luckily our kids are

all going professional, so.

Obviously.

I mean, what are we spending

all this time and money for

if they're not?

I mean, we're

doubling down at this point.

We are, yeah.

I mean.

Putting ourselves in a financial ruin.

Just in the chance, or just

to make sure that they go pro

and hopefully they pay us back then.

No, in the knowledge and

fact that they'll go pro.

Oh yeah, obviously.

Yeah, no chances, but I mean,

this is our only play

in life at this point.

I've already told them,

I've already made them sign

my contract that I'm their manager.

Yeah.

And I get 90% of their

first paycheck, year's paycheck.

I'm gonna add an

amendment for that right now.

Oh, okay, first year's paycheck?

Yeah, first year's salary.

Okay, okay.

I don't know what job I'm gonna do,

but maybe they'll employ me too.

Yeah.

I could do their laundry.

We'll have multiple.

Yeah, and then they could just sign up.

Well, if they take

90%, well, you know, like,

what's left for me?

That's a rabbit hole,

that's a rabbit hole, so.

Yeah, we got a big one, but you don't,

you have nothing going on this weekend.

Yeah, no.

Since you're staying home.

I'll be kinda quiet, I think,

because it's fall break coming up,

so it's not like the

kids will have homework.

I think someone has a

birthday party, I mean, so I'll be.

The traditional fall break.

Yeah, the traditional more

than one week fall break.

You know what, that's

what I was gonna say.

That is the one, that is the balance to,

they say like school's so

much crazier than them now,

but they get way more

time off than we ever did.

Yeah.

Way more time off.

A week and a day in October.

Yeah.

And then a week in November.

Yeah, I mean, we used to go to school

like Monday, Tuesday for Thanksgiving.

Oh yeah, we would.

You get like

Wednesday, Thursday, Friday off.

We didn't even get Wednesday off.

Yeah, I don't think we did either.

I'm just saying that to be.

Isn't that crazy?

Yeah.

Now they get the full week.

Yeah.

And then our kids don't

usually go back to school

until like a couple

days into the new year.

There's not a full month

of school, not even one.

April might be the only, I

might step on myself here, but.

Maybe April.

It's the only month

that they may not have,

they may have a full month of school.

It's crazy, right?

It is, it is.

They do, it is not easy, but

they get a lot of time off.

They do.

I think.

I know.

Candidly, I mean, if I'm being honest,

not that I actually

would rather have them

an extra week of the summer

and have a shorter

fall break, my opinion,

but I do like the time

off even during the year

because that makes our schedule

a little bit better for that one week.

I mean, it's not like

fly out of it at 5.45

and hit the ground running.

You sleep in a little bit, it's just a

little more relaxed.

So that's a good point.

There is a benefit to it.

It just.

Yeah, but you're

presenting for two days that week,

in the office.

In the office.

So it's, we should have

rescheduled those thousand people.

This is my fall break,

if you wouldn't mind.

If you could just move this for me.

I'd love it.

All right, well, we should

probably sum this up here.

All right.

This last week up.

Okay.

(humming)

Do we wait till the end of the song?

No, I thought you might join in.

Oh.

Do you know that song?

Yeah.

Okay, I'm just curious.

I thought maybe I

wasn't getting it at all.

Oh gosh, no, no.

It was way off.

Well then I was going

through, oh, in jeopardy,

like do they have to wait

till the end of the song

before they present their answers?

(humming)

I don't think the song that never ends.

All right, here we go.

One, two, three.

Sprint.

Blur.

Oh yeah.

Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Same thing.

Yeah, totally same.

Same.

(laughing)

You need to explain.

We're already logged in.

I love it.

Love it.

I think it goes with all tang.

It does.

It was a sprint and it was a blur.

We did through it and

everything on the sidelines

was a blur.

It was a blur.

Yep, so we got it.

Keep on sprinting I guess.

Yeah, at some point we're

like, I'm still sprinting

and I'm running a

marathon, I'm exhausted.

All right.

You gotta find those moments to enjoy it.

I know, I know, and we did.

A little bit too in there.

Yeah.

Well we'll wrap up because

you gotta go cook a dinner.

I have to go cook dinner.

Because I have to get back to the sprint.

You're calling me on the track.

Big walk.

(laughing)

All right, thanks for joining.

We will see you next time.

Yeah, chow chow.

See ya.

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