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Less than a year and a half
later, this dude is the head of
AI.
He he he will, he will.
I I I would estimate in the next
three years he will 10X his
salary.
I got a real life story, Ralph.
So that was a gentleman.
I'm going to, I'm not going to
share his name.
There's a gentleman and I saw he
had something and he was fresh,
fresh out of school and he was
put in an opportunity and, you
know, kind of a, you know, he
was a, you know, service desk
help help desk guy and he was
put in a situation to to work
with the leaders and, and I'm
like, OK, well, you know, when
leaders, you know, you could
deal with some of everything,
right?
Wireless network, blah, blah,
blah.
So I invested, I'm like, hey
man, I got some learning credits
with Cisco.
I'm going to send you to get
this basic networking and, you
know, training.
He just, he had something,
right.
Well, the organization start,
you know, a few years later
start moving into this, you
know, kind of AI space and start
doing these campaigns to can you
find something to make more
efficient?
Well, this guy jumped all in.
Now he's again, in terms of
technical rank, he was
considered, you know, service
desk, you know, that kind of job
in terms of the technical stack,
right, hierarchy, you know, you
know, you're starting that
you're starting, you know, so
this guy goes all in on that,
right?
Opportunities.
He's like, I'm gonna try this,
try that.
And next thing you know, I get
an e-mail.
Hey, you know, we have this
internal AI project and he's
kind of the face of he's
leading.
And I'm like, OK, that's neat,
you know?
And so he included me because I
was a early sponsor for him.
So I'm giving him feedback.
Yeah, I think it's great.
It was a little slow here or I'm
searching here.
I didn't get this blah blah
blah.
You know bro, less than a year
and a half later, this dude is
the head of AII.
Know who?
I know you know who I'm talking
about.
And all I could say was, first
of all, it was his hunger,
right?
I saw he was hungry from the
beginning and and, and so, you
know, I saw that and I'm like, I
want to invest in it, but also
too, there was some benefit to
me because I know he was
addressing the higher ups.
The more information I can get
to him, the less that's going to
come to me.
So it was a it was, it was I
talk about this all the time.
It's a strange value.
So I'm going to help you, help
me help you.
That's right.
So as a result of that, that
kind of start of his journey,
right?
And again this this.
Terry, do you realize, do you
realize you changed the
trajectory of his life?
He is never going to leave AI.
Now.
I know who you're talking about
because he's a good friend of
mine too.
He's never going to leave the AI
industry.
And he is so far ahead of his
peers like they don't even know
what's happening right now.
No, they don't.
Right when you could take on a
title.
Yes, he got a title.
It's the head.
That says ahead of AI, I'm
trying to tell you he he, he
will.
He will, I, I, I would estimate
in the next three years he will
10X his salary, right?
Because, because he saw the
opportunity and, and you, you
like, you push them in that
direction.
And you know, now he sees like
this is, this is the future.
Yeah, yeah.
And and this is this is
available to anybody right now.
Yep, and and he took.
A risk?
He took a risk, but he was like,
this is important to me because
here's the I'm going to be
honest with you.
There are folks were like, I
don't know why he's doing this.
I don't know why they why, why
he's getting the opportunity.
Well, he's getting the
opportunity because he was
hungry.
Yeah.
But he showed passion.
That's right.
Let me use a better word.
Right.
I'm I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I'm you know, we had basketball
this morning, so I'm using
those.
I'm using those poster.
How hungry are you?
Go get it.
All right.
He had passion.
I'm sorry.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, that's, that's good, man,
That's good.
Yeah.
If you, yeah, yeah, No, I, I, I
think I have to sit back and
smile when I think about,
because you're right.
He was very passionate and he,
he definitely was never lazy,
always wanted to go get it.
And now it's paying off for him.
And yeah, I, I know that he's
going to do well.
So that's.
And it's just a story, right,
that shows that if you embrace
it, it can change your
trajectory, right?
Everyone's going to be a little
different, right?
But again, if you embrace it
early, right?
He was an early embracer of it.
Yes, yeah.
So yeah, that's also the story.
Just get, you know, just get it
early.
I'm sorry.
Go ahead bro.
No, no.
But to your point, right, we are
in this moment in history right
now where it's still optional,
yes, right.
But if you go get it, you're
going to stand out.
Yes, it's.
Going to be VM Ware.
It's going to be VM Ware.
Yeah, all over again, right.
And it's going to be a part of
everybody's job.
And if you want to have your
job, you're going to have to
know how to do this.
Well, The opportunities to take
those advancements, those leaps
forward really quickly, those
are going to be gone.
Right now is the time to to, to
leverage that, you know, that
technology to make those big
changes in your career, right?
For sure.
So yeah, yeah.
And another pro tip shout out to
Gary because we were talking
this week and he he said, hey,
you know that pro tip you gave
me about using a feedback loop
in, in, in AI that really helped
me out.
I just want to reiterate again,
right?
So a is first answer is probably
not going to be the 100% correct
output that you want.
You have to learn how to make it
give you feedback on what you
told it to produce, right?
You know, so if you said, hey, I
want you to do this and I want
it to look like that and it
gives you an output, you don't
just take that as face value.
You know, a pro tip is the next
thing you ask, it is OK, I want
you to give yourself feedback
based on what I asked you to do.
9 times out of 10, it'll say,
oh, you know what?
I forgot that.
I forgot that because AI is not
perfect, right?
But by incorporating those
feedback loops into your
prompts, into your questions,
into your, into your
interactions with AI, you will
drive to a solution that is.
Yeah, so, so, so yeah, I got I
got a real life example, right.
So I'm watching the football
game last week.
I think it was what was the big
game last week?
It was last.
Was it Georgia and somebody?
What was the big game last night
last week?
Saturday night game.
Yeah, Saturday night game.
I think it was yeah, I think it
was gosh, I forget who it was,
but anyway, so I'm watching it
right?
And so this commercial comes up
about the N out and about some
bill or at that.
They want us to sign right?
It's about let's make it fair.
And I'm like, I think I know
what that's about.
So of course I go to the
assistant.
Hey, can you give me a breakdown
of what the blah blah blah bill
is that they're talking about
that's in the Senate or they
want us to vote for Yeah, so I
get all this feedback, right?
And they're giving me the way
they're giving me the
information is in a manner that
that's a it's not giving me it
in a non biased fashion.
So I I, but I, you know, I keep
talking to it and I'm like, hey,
why are you giving me the
information with this tone?
Oh, I'm sorry, you're right.
I need to give this in a non,
you know, pro or against manner.
I'm, you know what I told him.
I said it's too late.
You've done it already.
Because I'm look, look, I may
lose some friends on this.
I'm pro athlete when it comes to
NIL, right, Because, you know, I
know the first hand, you know,
you may say they getting I don't
want to.
I don't know if anyway, let me
just get off myself.
Anyway, I'm like, Hey, can I
just get the information?
It was like, I'm sorry, let me
give it to you in a in a more
neutral position.
I'm like, thank you.
I just want the information.
That's a fantastic example,
especially now with, you know,
our country being so polarized,
you know, the left or the right,
you know, for this and against
that and you don't know exactly
what to believe and what not to
believe.
You can utilize this tool to get
yourself some facts right.
To Terry's point, you got to
tell it.
Hey, I don't want your, your
response to be for or against.
I just want it to be purely the
facts and help me understand
this so you can get some clarity
amongst all the noise that's
actually.
And and it's his right, because
the one thing we want to have is
get the data because you, you
also too, you got to understand
this right?
It's going out and pulling data
from sources that may have an
opinion.
Either way, you don't want the
opinions.
You just give me the give me the
facts as as they've been stated.
And then what I will do is draw
a conclusion from what I'm
receiving.
Well, in the same way, hey, give
me information about what Cisco
is doing in terms of these data
centers.
Now what I do know in terms of
that.
And so Ralph, to your point on
that is I, I had the pleasure
and thanks to Cisco and some of
our other partners to attend
Cisco Live this past year.
The data centers that you're
talking about these are highways
specifically for nothing else
but AII mean rolls and rolls and
rolls of GPU's right to process
super highway.
They're talking about I'm
telling let me remember I have
to remember my number my my date
on this.
But you're talking about these
are not like I remember 100 gig.
These chassis are 100 gig ports
yeah, throughput.
Yeah, this is not a gig.
You know, we made we were
excited about 25 gig 10 gig.
No, this is 100 gig, right, Not
single, but they're do bind it
together.
Yeah, you know, and so the
amount of traffic, the amount of
data that this that's going to
be piped through these data
centers, man, it's it's it's
going to pull it's going to pull
as much power as a city.
Yes, yeah.
And and just just a quick,
quick, quick shout out selfless
plug.
Terry, you remember back in man,
I don't know, this had to be
like 2006.
I was like TI got this idea.
I remember that, I think about
it all the time.
You were on it, bro.
Yes, I.
Had this idea of distributing
computing back in 2005, 2006.
I just didn't know what to do
with it and here we are today.
Yes, and that's exactly what
they did.
When you said you said TI,
remember, I remember, like you
said, T we got to build
something.
We're compute, storage,
networking.
It's all in 111 chassis.
Of course, there's been
iterations of it, right.
I think the best at the consumer
or the OR the enterprise level
at this point, I think is new
Nutanix.
I think they were doing it the
best, I think here recently.
But yes, but you had that into
because remember, you took it to
what was the guy at?
Oh, gosh.
Who we had gotten our one of our
chassis from who Chris used to
work for.
What was the name of that
company?
And you, you took it to the CTO,
remember, because he was a
musician, too.
You took that idea to him.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You were there, bro.
You were there years.
Yeah, I was you.
You were 20 years ahead.
I I distinctly remember saying,
you know, what if we just had a
whole rack of nothing but CPU I.
Remember that.
Right.
You know, and a whole rack of
nothing but memory by itself was
distributed and then something
controlling it all.
So just want to make, you know,
I didn't invent the Internet,
but I didn't have that idea.
Ralph, Hey.
Hey again.
I hey.
I'm a witness.
I remember.
You don't only witness yet
because you know the person I
told.
We were I, I see it.
I see that, man.
That conversation comes to me a
lot like Ralph was.
It's crazy awesome.
It's crazy.
Guys, again, right, this is all
about jumping in when it's in
it's we are in the infancy right
now of Gen.
AI and moving on to a gentic.
We'll get to that because I got
a guy I want to bring on here
when we start talking about a
gentic and he's doing some
things with a platform out
there, man, that is, I mean,
just revolutionary.
And when, when they talk about
people are building apps with
AI, they are and they're not.
These are not technical people.
They just have an idea.
So here's here's the beauty of
what, and I think we use this on
the first episode, we said AI
can supercharge your idea.
Yes, that's it will supercharge
it.
And if you can think of it,
yeah, there is a platform out
there that will help you realize
it sooner.
Hey, hey, if we had AI back when
I had that idea, you and I'd be
millionaires right now.
Yes.
Yeah, Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because I mean, it was, there
was just no way to, to, to, to
get that to, you know, fruition,
right?
It was hard to conceptualize.
Yeah, it was conceptual, but to
move it from a conceptual to a A
and, and be connected into
those, into those, because
here's the deal, right?
And here the Ralph, I think this
really kind of brings us to why
we're doing what we're doing is
it's about access.
But access starts first with
information and understanding
where to go, right?
And so this platform that we've
created is about creating a
access to these platforms and
areas that we traditionally
didn't have understanding or
knowledge of, right?
Just because we weren't in those
circles.
Well, God has blessed us to be
at the table.
God has blessed us to get favor
with different persons, right?
I'm able to do what I'm doing
today with lift.
Like man, I remember when I
launched Lift Life Technology
and all I could think is how am
I going to get, I know the
technology, but how do I get in
front of people?
God allowed me to connect with
the right people.
So now that I'm connected with
those people, I can connect you
with those people through
through the information.
Yes, yes.
Right, Ralph?
Has connected with people so now
we're connecting you to those
people through the information
we're not giving.
Hey, hey, hey, John, this is
this is Mark.
We're not necessarily giving you
that face not say that we can't.
But what I'm saying is what
we're doing is giving you
information to get to the
places, right?
Whether it's a methodology,
whether it's a way of thinking,
whether it's a, a concept on
networking, right?
And we point you in those again,
you know, we were trying to use
the little resources we had, the
little the people we knew.
And it was just, it was hard to
get it off the off the mat, so
to speak, so.
No, that's good, that's good,
that's good, that's good, that's
good.
So you know, just, you know, in
closing, you know, we just, we
do want to encourage our mindset
of experimentation and iteration
when working with AI, right?
Hit it with any, any, any
question you have, nothing is
off the table, right?
You know, put it out there, see
what it comes back with.
Remember that your interaction
with AI is a continuous
iteration, right?
You throw.
So I, I've always said that, you
know, the, the, the speed in
which the, the, the society
evolves has been based on how
fast information has been able
to spread across the world,
right?
Let's just go back to, you know,
biblical days.
People had the right stuff on
scrolls, but how did other
people, you know, on the other
side of the country get that
information?
Those scrolls had to be carried,
right?
Copied, hand copied, right?
You know, so society evolved as
fast as the information couldn't
move when the Internet came.
Now you had information moving
from one side of the world to
the other in seconds.
Whereas it may have taken months
or maybe even years for books
and stuff like that to cross the
ocean, right now information is
moving at the speed of light.
Well, now it's moving even
faster with AI because you're
asking questions and you're
getting exactly what you want in
seconds, right?
You know, so our ability to
evolve is, is, is, is speeding
up and you want to be able to
stay on the, on the leading
curve of that, right?
So, you know, again, just call
to action, go to
leadershipsovereignty.com/AI to
get your free AI tool kit so
that you can start using this
tool, you know, in your
day-to-day personal and
professional life, you know, to
take advantage of the
opportunity that it brings for
you.
Any any any final thoughts too?
Look man, you got the assistant
in your pocket.
In your pocket.
It's in your pocket, right?
Ralph was talking about the
Internet.
We had to wait.
We had to wait to get down at
the computer, Bailey.
With the dial.
Dial up, right, Right.
I mean, just think about our
parents.
They had to wait for the
newspaper, Yes.
They had to wait like 24 hours
for the next print.
That's right, right.
I mean, right.
I think what you shared that
information aspect is, is
critical, right?
Because think about it, right?
I mean, let's, let's take a
step.
Let me walk through just a
little slower.
Sure.
It was on rocks first.
No, it was word of mouth first.
Word of mouth.
Right, you have you know the
story changed the story, right
Then they started.
Man, this dude didn't messed up
my story.
Let me put this on this rock.
But the problem, the problem is
the person has to come.
Hey man, you got to come over
here to The Cave.
You got to read that's.
That's right.
That's how you think about it.
The Egyptians, they used to put
this stuff all on the walls,
right?
But the evolution part came
when, if Terry introduces a
piece of information to me, I
now absorb that information.
I now take my own personal
experiences and I build a block
on top of that.
That block didn't come until I
was able to absorb the
information that Terry gave me.
So evolution of society when as
fast as information could
travel.
Now I have the information in my
glasses.
I'm talking to my glasses.
And it's telling me, yeah, you
can do this, you can do that,
you can do that.
So every time he gives me a new
piece of information, I build on
top of that and I create
something new and I ask it
another question he gives me.
So that reiteration process is
happening constantly, right?
And things are evolving fast.
Yeah, guys.
So look, get in getting rough.
I think that is a brilliant,
brilliant, brilliant story about
we develop as fast as the
information is able to be
disseminated, received,
represented, and that that's
that iterative process over and
over because and that's
essentially what learning is,
right?
It's the exchange of ideas.
Yes, yeah.
Think of the medical community,
right?
They have only been able to
evolve medicine as fast as
information has been able to
travel because when one
scientist figures something else
out, they have to spread it out
to the rest of the world.
When somebody else figures out
what that is, they build on top
of it.
Correct.
But yeah.
Great show, man, today I am I'm
glad that we, you know, added
this bonus and and and this is
not the end right for for AI.
This is really just the
beginning.
Again, as I alluded to, there's
a, a friend that I've met over
the last month who's in into he,
he's got AAI company and they're
doing some fabulous things.
And, and we'll start, you know,
in future shows, we'll talk
about agentic AI and what that
means.
And again, that's another
evolution of what this
technology is bringing to
enhance, you know, our
experiences and enhance our
exchange.
So thank you, Ralph, great show
today.
Thank you, Sir.
Awesome, thank you too.
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