In this episode of The Margin, MGI Research Managing Director Igor Stenmark speaks with Dan Brown, Chief Product Officer at Celonis, about the true impact of generative AI on professional services. Is it an existential threat, or a powerful accelerant? Drawing on experience at Microsoft and leading PSA vendors, Dan unpacks where GenAI delivers real value, where it falls short, and how firms can adopt a “pragmatic AI” strategy focused on impact, ease of deployment, and closed-loop feedback. They also explore the risks of AI hallucinations, pricing pressure, and why automation doesn’t replace trust.
What You’ll Learn:
- Why GenAI is both an accelerant and a risk for services firms
- Where AI actually delivers value in professional services today
- Why trust, opinion-based work, and counterfactual thinking remain stubbornly human
- How rising expectations, tooling overload, and talent shortages are shaping AI adoption
- The “Pragmatic AI” framework used inside leading services and software organizations
What is The Margin?
The Margin is a podcast from MGI Research that explores the evolving world of business monetization. Hosted by MGI Managing Directors Andrew Dailey and Igor Stenmark, the show features candid conversations with founders, CEOs, product leaders, and industry experts at the forefront of pricing, billing, and revenue operations. Each episode dives deep into the strategies, technologies, and trends shaping how companies generate, capture, and grow revenue—from subscription and usage-based models to AI-driven monetization. Whether you're in finance, product, or IT, The Margin offers practical insights to help you navigate complexity and drive growth in the digital economy.