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What's going on, everybody?
Welcome to Sunday Night CrossFit Talk.
So I just hit go live,
and I got a message back
from Twitter that said,
unless you have a premium
subscription now,
you cannot go live on this
platform any longer.
Wow.
So just found that out as we went live,
because I just went live on Friday,
and it was fine.
Yeah.
With Bethany, and now today it's not fine.
So I got to look into that.
So if you were here on
Twitter to check us out,
you're not going to see us tonight.
And you won't even hear that message.
So there you go.
Kipping It Real is just here
for the gators and snakes.
All right, so how was your guys' weekend?
Mine was good.
You were there.
I was.
Put some miles on the car.
Yeah.
Before we go into that recap,
how about you, Carolyn?
Today I went axe throwing
for the first time with Lex.
So we went to this local bar
place that just opened up in her city.
It was really fun.
She beat me on most of the games,
and I don't know if I
should be impressed or
worried about that.
It was really fun.
And then we've just been a
lot of walks around the
neighborhoods and stuff like that.
There's like this really
nice park that we do.
It's like an 800 meter loop
with some good shade,
which is important in
California because it's
been like 110 degrees on a
lot of the days.
But yeah, getting a lot of steps in.
We go for like at least a
four mile walk often like every morning.
And I just think it's crazy how
how much you have to walk to
get your 10,000 steps.
Like that four mile is
basically exactly almost 10,000 steps.
And it takes us like, I don't know,
an hour and a half to an
hour 45 often with the
doodles just to walk around.
So yeah, I mean, I've been getting,
my average step count has
been like almost like
15,000 since being in California.
Yeah,
we have a loop around our
neighborhood that's exactly 800 meters.
And that's my walk the dog during work.
I just go and do it once.
It takes a long time to get to 10,000.
And we, uh,
we put this challenge for
ourselves for the month of
July where we're running a mile a day.
So we're also trying to get our,
our mile wet,
whether it's in a wad and
it's just accumulating,
or we might do intervals or
just go for like a mile jog.
I don't know if I'll like
really test my mile.
I've been doing more like
jogging around this,
the neighborhood for the most part,
but I think by the end I'll
try to actually test it.
That's cool.
Well, no, I briefly, we talked last night,
Jamie, you're watching the bear.
Yes.
Yeah.
We started that.
And what are your impressions of the bear?
I like it.
It's good.
You're right.
They're like short, quick,
really interesting episodes.
It draws you in right away.
I'm curious to see where the
story goes for sure.
We just made it to the second season.
Yeah.
Second season was amazing.
Third season is very
artistic and less story movement.
And we're not done.
We have one episode to go
from season three.
But it's it's one of my
favorite shows from the
last five years for sure.
Maybe my favorite show from
the last five years.
But it's it's so good.
And I love it.
So I'm glad you jumped into that.
Good suggestion.
Well,
I put a ton of miles on my car and
went to the beautiful state
of Michigan who they need
so much road work done.
The minute you cross the
Ohio border into Michigan,
your car just starts bouncing around.
You better have good shocks
and good tires.
That's all I got to say.
Yep, so many potholes.
That's why we get all the
memes that are like, my roads.
Like, they're bad.
And I don't know.
They put tons of funding to it.
It doesn't matter.
We literally have
construction on every single highway.
You can't get out of Lansing
without touching construction.
And...
it's, I don't know.
It doesn't even help.
They're just,
maybe the construction is
what caused the problems.
Then like a whole new set of
roads gets just used and
destroyed and then come
back to that and that gets destroyed.
I don't know.
Yeah.
So we went to Lansing and
kept on going all the way
out to Lake Michigan.
We have Lake Erie here in Ohio.
Thought we were cool with that.
Man, Lake Michigan smokes Lake Erie.
Smokes it.
It is so beautiful.
It was so gorgeous.
We get to Muskegon,
and it was miles and miles
and miles of beach.
Yes.
And it was gorgeous.
Just driving through there was a treat.
Yep.
So we went there to the
Fresh Coast Fit Fest to
hang out with Jamie and her
crew as they were competing
at the Fit Fest,
as well as get some footage of the event,
all of that stuff.
So I scrambled today.
I lost internet for a period of time.
But I scrambled today to put
together like a minute 30
quick highlight reel of event one.
This is by no means a finished product.
It was just something to
share with the crowd here
tonight to show where we've
been and how cool it is out
there on Lake Michigan.
So without further ado, I'm going to play.
It's a minute 47,
and then we'll be right back after that.
How'd that one go?
I thought it was good.
Yeah, it died.
A long time in the water.
But overall, really good workout fun.
Everybody's out there just
trying to get it done.
Yeah,
now you get a little cool off before
you go to vent too, huh?
That's right.
There's Fit Fest or Fresh Coast Fit Fest.
Yeah.
Just so everyone's clear watching that,
everything synchro was at
the top because I'm sure if
people watch some of that stuff,
they'll be like, oh, that was terrible.
It was terrible burpees.
That was terrible squats.
Yeah, it didn't matter.
You could squat fast.
You could burpee fast as
long as you stood tall
together on the raft and if
you held the dumbbell up.
at the top was, um, synchro a little bit,
a bit different, but.
So let me ask you doing
these movements in sand.
I watched so many people on
thrusters topple over onto
their back because they lost,
they lost their balance or
whatever in the sand.
Did you ever feel that way?
No, no.
Cause you're an athlete.
I mean, I feel like for one,
I feel like having to like
basically hold overhead,
like show control overhead
to make sure you're all synchro.
I guess if you were trying
to go really fast and yank it down,
you could get wobbly.
I was constantly like holding there.
So I feel like I was moving
slow enough that I didn't feel.
And it's actually nice to
like dig your feet in like down.
So you almost like have like lifters on.
Just dig your toes in and
then your heels are up.
So I feel like once I was
where I wanted to be, I was fine.
And that workout was however
many dumbbell thrusters,
single-arm dumbbell thrusters,
burpees to start.
Then they did the raft thing.
Then again with burpees and
dumbbell thrusters.
Backwards, yep.
So.
Yep.
But it was beautiful.
And it was long.
It was a long swim.
They actually moved the last buoy in.
Yeah.
before the first group got to it.
Cause it was taking so long to go around.
Yeah.
What was the distance?
It was supposed to be 500 meters.
Um,
I'm guessing it was closer to maybe
like 400.
Um,
But, yeah,
that doesn't surprise me that
they had to move it in.
When they released it, I was like,
this is going to take a long time.
And it was absolutely perfect conditions.
So I'm curious, like,
who tested it and what conditions?
Because it's usually really choppy.
And, I mean, like,
I sort of feel like that's
why they had to bring in the raft.
Because almost every year we
have issues with somebody, like,
needing to grab onto something,
needing something like it can,
it's usually freezing and the weather is,
it was actually really nice.
The water warmed up a lot.
So like it didn't take your
breath away as much as in
past years and you were
holding onto that.
So you were able to recover, but yeah,
you were in the water for like,
I don't know.
I think the fastest teams
were like nine minutes.
A lot were like 12 to 14 minutes.
Yeah.
And it was a,
it was a long run down the
beach before you enter the,
in that deep sand with the
raft then you entered and
then you went around that
500 meters and again they
brought in the last buoy to
probably make it 450 yeah
yeah somewhere around there
but yeah um but you could
still stand about three
quarters of the way out to the buoys yeah
Yeah.
And that was nice.
Like once you were,
you were just so tired
coming back in that finally
when you could put your
feet down and just pull that thing,
it was way better.
Yeah.
The fastest technique I saw
was two women were on the raft together,
each using one arm on each side.
And there was the third
person was on the back, like a kickboard,
just kicking like crazy.
Yeah.
And they, they,
they finished first in the
women's heat by a good margin.
Um,
But yeah, it was awesome to witness.
It was a great event.
Man, that sand is thick.
Like it is a workout alone,
just moving up and down
through the heats of people.
My gosh,
my hips and my calves and my
ankles on fire.
Yeah.
My right calf is like the
only thing that's pretty sore.
So it must have been pushing
extra hard with my right leg.
But yeah,
you walk back and forth on that
sand back to your tent,
back to like tons of times
just to watch a heat go.
You're just constantly in that sand.
Was it a two-day comp or one?
And how many events were there?
So it's a one-day comp.
There's two days of it
because RX is Saturday.
Scaled was today.
And actually, it was stormy today.
It ended up being kind of nice,
but Veronica says in here
she went over there and
they had a red flag out for the water.
So it was probably really choppy.
Thank God we didn't have to
deal with that yesterday.
I wonder if they moved the
buoys in even more for today.
I'm curious if Veronica
actually watched the swim
event or saw any of that, how that went.
Nicole Sherman says,
did your team switch
positions with the raft in the water?
Yes, we did.
Well, yeah, we, so we were,
we wanted to do two people out front,
like almost like
one arm and like pulling it
and one person at the back.
Um,
and we did that for at least half the
way I'd say about,
and then realized that you
could see the other teams
like ahead of you that were
just moving faster with two
on or even three on.
And we're like, okay,
we have to switch something up.
So we did switch like three times.
Um, I got up like double our
double armed while Mel was
at the front and Caitlin was at the back.
And then Mel and I switched
those positions.
Caitlin pretty much always
stayed at the back kicking.
But yeah, we tried a few different things.
The funniest conversation I
heard all day was
While switching positions,
you ended up in very
precarious situations as well.
Butt to face, face to butt,
whatever you want to call it.
Front to back, things like that.
But yeah, that was hilarious.
Veronica had me laughing so hard.
Only she would be like
watching us and kind of like, I mean,
she's behind us in the water watching us.
Like I, I don't even know.
Like I'm just moving along.
Like I'm not looking at
where I'm at or even paying
attention that I'm
basically on top of my
partner on the raft.
Like I don't, it doesn't, I'm just moving.
You're there to win.
We all know.
So that was the first event.
The second one was crazy.
We've talked about a lot.
You've been battling a shoulder injury.
You say you can't snatch.
You were the strong snatcher on your team.
And you snatched 135 power
five times fairly easily on
sand on a piece of plywood.
does that give you more
confidence going into the games?
No.
I mean, I don't,
I don't know that that's
like a common weight.
Like they could pull
something like this went to one 55 in it.
And there will be people
that can hit fit one 55 at the game.
So it doesn't matter that I can do one 35.
Like,
It totally depends on if
it's a ladder or how it is.
You looked snappier than
I've ever seen you snatch.
That's good.
And it was on a piece of plywood and sand.
And you yourself saw Rich snatch,
and it was not easy for him
in these conditions.
Yeah.
So kudos to you for that.
And then, oh, yeah,
we have to talk about this.
Plus your judge was dancing
while you were doing that.
He was getting after it.
He was having a good time.
Yeah.
And we're not talking like
keeping it in here.
Like he was all over the place dancing.
He was having a good time.
He was keeping me distracted
from the pain I was feeling.
So it was good.
And then you guys ended up, um,
So that, Kenneth,
is Jamie's GoFundMe shirt,
whatever you want to call it.
That is her fundraiser to
help her get to the games.
There's a t-shirt too.
And will Thick Boy be
selling it or are you selling it?
Yes.
Well, yeah.
I guess technically I'm selling it.
Okay.
It looks really good.
I love it.
Thanks.
Did you design it?
No, Mark put it together for me.
Looks great.
He did a good job.
So where can they get it?
I'll post it, like a picture of it,
on my Instagram and
Facebook so people can just message me.
Okay.
Or if you see it here, just message her.
Yeah, post in the comments.
Like, comment, subscribe.
Yeah, do that too.
All that stuff.
And then you guys ended up podiuming.
We did.
But even more impressive,
you finished seventh overall.
Mm-hmm.
So not just Masters,
but overall seventh place.
Yeah.
Masters really showed up.
The first three teams in
Masters were in the top seven overall.
Yeah.
Yeah, it was a pretty competitive field.
I mean, Rich's team was first in Masters,
second overall.
Not surprising, but yeah,
Masters just was competitive this year.
That's awesome.
Ronica says she needs 10,
and I think she can message you tomorrow,
probably at the gym.
Yeah.
So yeah, it does look cool,
and I'm definitely getting
myself one of them.
Speaking of Masters, we'll jump ahead.
It became official this week
that we got our full access
to cover the Masters games
behind the scenes.
Team is put together, I think.
And now we're just ironing
out some final details.
But super stoked to be able to do that.
And now that I'm hearing all
the people that are coming,
I think we're going to be
able to put on a pretty
cool little documentary
behind the scenes.
So I think that's going to be
And there's Holly in the chat.
And I think we're going to
get to meet Holly in person
for the first time.
She's going to come.
We're trying.
We're trying.
We need our stats and info
girl right there on hand to
be able to like,
give us all the info we need.
Right.
So she says she hopes so.
So.
We're super stoked for that.
So let's get into the elite
CrossFit games.
Dave Castro was at it some
more this week with all of
his interviews.
He did take a couple-day break, apparently,
to go to Yosemite with his family.
But it was back at it,
and we had no cell service
over the weekend.
That's the last thing about Fresh Coast.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Couldn't even communicate
with Jamie to let her know
we had the table reservation she needed.
All that kind of stuff.
It was so crazy.
So I am behind on these
athlete interviews.
I think I have three or four to do.
I think he's come out with a
couple since I even... Lexi
Neely just came out before
I came downstairs.
So, yeah.
I've got four to go.
BKG, Lexi...
I can't remember her name now,
but I crammed a few in today.
So we know event one.
Mm-hmm.
Run-swim.
Event one is run-swim.
And it also came out in some
interviews this week that
those predictions of
distance appear to be right.
Dave said that with his own mouth.
And if you reverse engineer it,
it probably means no fins.
Mm-hmm.
So, thoughts on the run-swim event.
It appears to be a
three-and-a-half-mile run,
500 to 800-meter swim.
I think it's closer to 800
for the half-mile, so 800 meters.
Do you think it's as much of
a run as a swim,
or it's a lot more towards the run?
I think it's more towards the run.
I think...
think you can make up a lot
of ground on the swim if
it's 800 meters that that's
uh for these swimmers
probably a 13 minute open
water swim a 5k is what 17 to 20 minutes
if it's a proper 5k they're
going to be 19 to 22 at
least yeah no no one's
running a 17 minute maybe
like I don't like no that's
not going into a swim I was
I was I guess I was
referencing last year's ish
yeah I think I think most
of the girls would be
low twenties to around 22 and a half ish.
Like Ricky would probably
have the fastest 5k.
He could probably do a 17.
I don't think he will.
I mean,
he might want to go close to it so
that he can get a lead
going into the water, knowing that,
you know,
James Sprague and the cow ski
and others will be a great swimmers.
Cause I don't think Ricky is
known to be like the best swimmer,
but he can definitely get
into the water first and at least
recover probably better than
other people can uh spin is
the king with research so
and he is it kudos to him
and apparently he's dead on
but I didn't I have not
seen anything about this
carolyn have you I didn't
see that no I haven't seen any of that
again there's a handful I
have not got to yet um and
I went to spin right before
we went on here see if
anything broke um but yeah
I'm all caught up on the
interviews except for the
the last one that just got
posted and nothing was said
about two run swim events okay
The research also shows there are snakes.
I know one person actually
went out and did the run
and reported back that they
saw snakes all over the run path.
As an athlete,
does that even come into
your mind when you're
running or swimming?
Swimming, yes, it comes into my mind.
I've done several triathlons
and that kind of stuff.
I'm not overly comfortable in the water.
Like that, that stuff stresses me out.
Like I, I wouldn't just go to a,
like a lake like that by
myself and go swim around in it.
Like I'll sign up for things
like triathlons cause
there's 50 other people in
there with me and hopefully
something gets someone else
other than me.
But like, I don't know.
I wouldn't,
I wouldn't feel comfortable
doing like ocean swims personally.
Um,
And like, yeah, I don't know.
Just, you know, leeches, anything in lakes,
like leeches.
Yeah.
Oh my gosh.
All the open water swims I've done.
I've never encountered a leech.
Well,
they're all over our lakes in Michigan.
So I'm probably similar to you.
Like on the run,
I probably wouldn't think about it.
Um, if I saw something, just keep going.
You're so focused in the water.
I'm less comfortable.
The fact that you're with a
lot of people just.
hopefully those creatures
stay away from the mass people.
Um, yeah, but I mean,
I think when you're in the race,
you don't think about it
and I don't think it'll
play a factor at all.
Yeah.
I, you know,
I was talking to Bethany on
Friday and she said that
usually the animal is more
afraid of the human than
the human is of the animal.
And with all those people, um,
most of those animals will
be scurrying off to another place.
But if you're out there, like you said,
Jamie,
if you're out there running by yourself,
sure,
you're going to encounter a lot of that.
Yeah.
But if it's a mass start of 80 people,
you're probably less likely to see that.
Absolutely.
Do you guys have predictions
for male and female in that event?
Probably to you.
I could see James doing
really well in that one.
That was a good pick.
I want to take Gracie.
How is she at running?
I don't know.
There's been a few
interviews where there's
some swimmers out there.
Kato today was I think trying for
like years ago for, uh,
Olympic trials in swimming.
Um, you obviously have Walton.
That's a great swimmer.
Like someone like Haley
Adams can get into the
front with the run and
she's always done well.
Rolf has always done well in
swimming workouts.
Same with, um, Emma Lawson.
I think like some of like those girls with,
with Walton will be up there for sure.
Um,
on the men's side.
I mean, I think Brent always does well,
James with that combination, but yeah,
it'll be interesting how
much each weighs onto the, yeah,
onto the event.
Well, Pat finished up 20.
I think so.
I don't think he's that bad of a swimmer.
I think like the one year he
cramped up and he's had some bad luck.
Like the one year was the, uh,
the kayak and he just
couldn't figure that out.
Like he works on his swimming,
but I don't think he's like a,
like the top end of the field,
but he could still, I think do well.
He's not a bad runner.
He's a good runner.
He's a pretty good runner.
And I think he'll, he'll be fine.
I think so too.
I think he'll be top 20.
Yeah.
I think,
I think Sprague has shown that he's,
he's the new Brent,
like Brent won these events.
And now James is just a
younger version of that
with maybe even better swimming ability.
Yeah.
um so I like the james pick
for that one I would say I
want I want to pick gracie
but I don't I don't think
her tia's run is probably
better than gracie's by
further by a greater
variant than vice versa I
agree yeah like I expect
like the runners in the
front to be like tia hayley adams rolf
will be towards the front.
I don't think Gracie will be
matching their speed going into the water,
but she can make up a lot of ground,
I'm assuming, in the water,
but where will she be entering?
That'll be the factor.
Yeah, and for that,
it's swimming under fatigue,
and Tia's going to be fine with that.
And Tia actually has, like,
of all the swimmers,
when you look at her stroke,
it is picture-perfect.
So I don't think Gracie will
be able to make up that much difference.
Uh, so, uh,
Larry Young says doing anything
close to Olympic level
makes me think you might be
a sneaky pick for the ladies.
Yeah, that's what I'd like to,
but that's really damn good at swimming.
yeah like kato who was a
good swimmer like I don't
see her being close to them
on the run but she may be
like I think she'll be
she'll have a top half
finish in this workout but
I don't think she'll
threaten for a top three in
that workout how are um
laura and gabby in the water
think they're fine I think
they're probably upper
upper quarter if I remember
like laura does does well
in those events yeah um
yeah I think they'll be
fine I don't think they're
gonna win and I don't
really know gabby I don't
remember her finishes but
laura I remember her
finishing well and like the
lake swims and she's a
decent runner oh yeah
They'll be fine.
Laura was eighth in 2021 with the kayak.
I don't know how much she
made up maybe on the kayak,
but there was a mile swim in that one,
so she's got to be a good swimmer.
And Gabby, I don't think, did as well.
Who was Gabby in 2021?
Gabby is 22nd.
But again,
it's hard to know whether there
was the kayak or the swim
part because some people
really struggled on the
kayak and had no idea how to move it.
So that one's hard to tell.
And then I think the 2022
swim event was a lot more
dictated by the skier than the swim.
Like if you could just
survive and make it to the end,
it became just the calories thing.
I don't think we've had a
pure sprint in a while.
That's hard to know for the
rinse and repeat because
there's only five athletes.
Again,
the echo bike plays a role in that too.
No.
Swim and stuff was the five people.
Rinse and repeat was... I
don't know what... That's
from our staff and information person.
Laura third beat Tia fourth
in the rinse and repeat one.
was rinse and repeat because
it was swim and ski was the
22 right that's what it was
called yeah yeah and that's
more and that's more with
the skier yeah that's a
2022 one with the skier and
then swimming stuff is the
one at the 2020 games with
five athletes which laura wasn't there
Okay.
Rinse and repeat was the swim ski.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So that would have been,
she got third because of
the rower or the ski.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, she's probably a good swimmer too.
Like, yeah, but not as elite as.
Yeah.
I think she's upper, upper tier swimmer.
Just not Tia Gracie swimmer.
So there we go.
Um,
the other thing we learned this week is
Chad has event seven right
before the cut.
Uh,
so you're going to be doing step ups
for your life.
That is crazy.
I don't, I mean,
I kind of like it cause
he's making it matter.
Like he's going to make them push it.
Um, but man, Oh,
you're going to be sore the
next day pushing that hard.
And we don't know what the twist is.
Like we don't know.
So,
and Dave did say that the twist is not
the fact that it's the
workout before the cut.
Cause someone asked if that was the twist,
whether it was just the
workout before the cut and he said, no,
that's not the, the, um, the twist,
but didn't say whether
there was an additional movement,
whether the twist is just
having multiple boxes and
moving your way down or step overs.
Um,
so we still don't have that information,
but.
I like the fact that it's before the cuts.
I think it puts pressure on the athletes.
And everyone will get to do it.
Yeah.
Is it Kyron Souza?
His first name.
He did it.
Like him and Bruno did it recently.
Uh,
and they did the whole thing and
apparently they went pretty hard at it.
And he said that it was fine doing it.
It was a couple of days
later that he really hurt.
Well,
they only have one day to work out
after it.
And like,
if you're going to be most sore on Monday,
it is what it is.
You just got to get through Sunday.
Yeah.
So what do you guys think
about the outlandish, uh,
comments of people saying
they should cut it in the
middle of like do the cuts
in the middle of the
workout or if you're the
fastest to a certain like
if you're the fastest 10 to
500 you get to stop and no
I don't I think you have to
complete it yeah if you're
going to do this workout
everyone needs to do all
thousand step ups like
everyone has to and I
realize some people are
going to be done but like
you can't I everyone just
needs to do it all
Vi asks,
are we hoping that it's stepovers or no?
I don't think it's going to be stepovers.
I think CrossFit is
old-fashioned Dave saying,
we saw what you did in quarterfinals.
We penalized you for it.
Now we're going to put it in
the games to make sure you
do it as we prescribed.
Mm-hmm.
I just think it's a
completely different workout.
If it was,
if it's step overs a hundred percent,
like that extension at the
top of the box is way
different and uses your legs a lot more.
Um,
obviously it's a lot easier to judge the,
um, the step overs,
but I have a hard time
thinking that it would
change to that point of doing a,
the full movement, like different, um,
but even just look at some
people practicing the step ups,
like they have a soft knee,
like they're stepping up
and you watch a lot of the
videos of the athletes and
they're standing up on the one hip,
but their other knee is
still kind of soft every single time.
And they should know right
now that you have to
clearly stand up and you
can't be leaning on one side.
And almost all the videos
that I'm watching of the athletes,
they're still tapping and being soft.
So I don't know what they're
going to do because they're
still not doing a step up
correctly in my opinion.
Yes,
Sarah Cooper says so many athletes
posting them doing step-ups
now and still not hitting full extension.
But isn't it typical, Dave,
that he would look at a
problem instead of saying, hey,
we're going to fix it by
making it easier.
No,
we're going to run into the problem and
we're going to do it till
we get it right.
Yeah, I could see that mindset.
Yeah.
Larry Young said, personally,
I thought it was boring,
but with cuts after now,
I feel like that's enough,
even without a twist.
Yeah,
who's going to want to leave the
stadium at that point when
you're kind of waiting to
see which athlete is going
to be falling behind and
possibly losing a lot of
points or getting cuts?
You're not going to want to not tune in.
I mean,
you might want to tune in at the end,
but still,
I think it engages more of the
fans to want to stay and watch.
knowing that there's a lot
on the line in that particular workout.
There was a point in one of
the interviews where he
said that they try to make
everything
spectator-friendly at the games
by the way they move things,
but sometimes the test is
more important than being
spectator-friendly.
And he said, so in small instances,
you have to do the test the
way you need to do the test.
And I think that that's what Chad is.
He wants a mental test.
You put it by the cuts.
It eats even a bigger mental test.
Who's willing to die for
points on that last event
before the cuts.
And it's just grunt work.
It's not,
it's not about technique or skill
or who's willing to lay it down.
So.
Yeah.
Wouldn't it be crazy if the twist was,
there is no twist.
I don't,
I think there's going to be something.
I don't think he would do that.
I don't think he would say
that and not have something.
Yeah.
You know, Dave.
Yeah.
So, uh, did you see the,
the one interview where
someone asked him if he was
going to bring back the cornrows?
No.
And he said that he decided that one,
when he turned 40,
he was done with those types of things.
That as a 40-year-old and up,
you have to just be more
serious and move on.
And I thought that was very interesting.
So...
Did you see the comment
about the marathon?
It was on the BKG interview
and I haven't seen the full thing yet,
but I just saw the spin
version of it where BKG
said that the marathon row
was the worst event he ever
did at the games.
And Dave said that, well,
if I'm still in this position,
it is coming back at some point.
That's funny.
You missed that one.
You weren't there yet, right?
Carolyn, or were you?
No, I had missed out.
That year was very close to qualifying.
And when I saw it,
I was at the event watching.
And I was like, oh, man,
I'm so glad I'm not doing it.
You know, I wanted to qualify.
Seeing that first day,
that was a hard first day of the games.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Crazy.
And now everybody's going to
have to train that row
every year because he said
it's coming back at some point.
So gross.
It's like my butt can't sit
on a rower for that long.
I do a 10K rarely,
and it hurts me so much
just to sit down the entire time.
Yeah, the most I've ever done was a 10K.
I can't imagine quadrupling
that plus some.
I've done the half before in
2013 when that was programmed.
One girl from my previous
gym in my hometown was
doing the half marathon row.
She ended up quitting
halfway and I just kept going.
So I have done the half one
and that was brutal.
The first time I did a 5k,
like I had blisters all over my fingers.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I can't even imagine 40,000,
whatever it is.
Crazy.
I liked Emma McQuaid's question about,
do you think that we're overtraining?
And his response is,
I absolutely think you're overtraining.
That when you're training
five to six hours a day,
there's no day at the games
that is five to six hours.
And I saw him say in other interviews,
like the most total workout
time you're getting,
unless there's like a
marathon row or chat, is like an hour.
And it's broken up into like three events.
There's always like a 45-minute workout,
almost always, whether it's the bike,
a run, a longer run.
I feel like there's always
one workout that's 45 minutes.
But I just feel like people
exaggerate how much that
they're actually training.
Like be like, Oh,
I'm training six to eight hours,
but it's like,
they're at the gym for like that long.
They're warming up.
Some of them are chilling on a foam roller,
having a chat.
Like they're not actually
working out for like eight
hours and they say it like that.
So people have this
perception that they're
training for six to eight hours.
But I think in reality,
most athletes are like pure,
like whether they're lifting,
cardio or like gymnastics
skills or med cons,
like let's call it two to three hours.
So, um, I, you know, and,
and people that have other
jobs condense it into like,
let's call it two to four hours maybe.
Um,
while people that don't have jobs and
can be at the gym all day,
just stretch it out so much
and get work done and physio work,
et cetera, and cold tubs.
And they all just say that
it's their training day, which it is,
but I don't think they're
actually training for eight hours.
That's my opinion, unless I'm wrong.
I just don't think that they are.
I can't remember how Emma McQuaid put it,
but it was like she doesn't
just train to train anymore.
She doesn't want to do trash training.
I can't remember the term she used.
Trash volume.
Junk volume, yeah.
Everything is intentional.
Everything is for a purpose.
And each workout has a purpose.
And she knows what that purpose is.
Do you feel that's how you train?
I mean, I feel like sometimes there's just,
I feel like some of the
stuff is just volume to get in volume,
but I,
but I also need volume and I need to like,
I need to feel like I did
three hard workouts and I'm,
I know I'm going to be sore
tomorrow and I need to feel
what that's going to feel like.
So I don't know.
I think the purpose sometimes is,
is for the volume.
But if it's to build capacity,
then it still has a purpose.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The example she uses,
I don't do sandbag cleans
just to do sandbag cleans.
There has to be a purpose to it.
I do a monostructural
conditioning every day.
I have a four-week
weightlifting cycle that's
a progressive overload
that's the same weightlifting cycle
stuff for let's let's say a
week and then I just
progressed for the four
weeks like I start light on
week one which is almost
like a deload and I
normally have a couple
metcons you call it um and
some accessory and I would
say that like there's no
junk volume everything's
intentional I try to hit
essentially every movement once a week
indifferent uh stimulus so
it's like if I don't if I
don't feel like um I'm
gonna hit this piece with
intention I just don't do
it um and I'll be like okay
well which movement did I
skip this week I'll make
sure that I don't skip on
that movement you know two
weeks in a row or I'll put
that piece into another
part of the week um just so
I don't get burnt out or
just doing things just to
do things and go through
the motion so I would say
that I am intentional in
in my training and I don't
train as much as, um, my competitors.
I take two full rest days a
week for the last few years.
Um, and I listened to my body very well.
Yeah,
she said on our interview with her
and in this interview with
Dave that with the injury
she sustained last year,
she had to start from scratch.
And it was a full rebuild in
the offseason.
And she learned so much from
that that her training has
changed now that she's gone
through that with much more intention.
And she says her body feels
so much better this year
than it has in years past.
So I think she's being very
critical of her own program.
And not necessarily saying
that out to the world,
but that she needed to be
more intentional with what she was doing.
And Dave talked about it.
I don't know with who,
but referencing Brent and talking about,
again, volume and how, you know,
a lot of people talk about
when they're at the games, you know,
they're injured and they're
broken and stuff like that.
And that's not the case for
like all the athletes.
And there are athletes that are, you know,
doing it the right way or
not that it's the right way,
but like really listening
to their bodies and, uh,
not pushing through pain or
anything like that.
Um,
so I think this idea that everyone has
so much volume and is all
broken puts this person
like this perception that, you know,
all the games athletes are
just dealing with stuff,
which I don't know.
I never went to the game
necessarily like injured or,
have any like nagging things.
Cause I feel like I listened
to my body very well and
I'm sure plenty of other
athletes are like that as well too.
Um,
so I think I talked about this with the
teenagers that I was on a call with, um,
in my little group of mentor mentorship,
um, and just about, you know,
listening to your body and
not feeling like you have
to do the full volume of, um,
things that are,
that they're getting
programmed from their
programmers that they're following.
Cause it can be a lot.
So.
I think that's really
important to just be in
tune with little stuff so
that it doesn't become a chronic injury.
I was wondering if anybody
else caught this.
Vi says it was a little wild
to hear Dave call out
proven specifically for overtraining,
given that was the
accusation from the
athletes who left them last year.
Yeah.
I don't think it was an
intentional call out.
I think it was just Dave was like,
I was at proven last year
and couldn't believe the
amount of training they were doing,
but it does line up with
things that were coming out
from other athletes about
the programming at proven and why,
why they left.
The last thing I wanted to
touch on with the
interviews is Victoria Campos.
And her question to Dave was,
every year when the semifinals,
you get a free L1 or a free L2.
And she has her L3 and has
completed every online
course that's available.
And she asked Dave, could she get her L4?
And Dave said, absolutely.
Let's do it.
And he asked her,
would you be interested in
trying out for the seminar staff?
And she said, sure.
And he said, then we're going to do both.
And I thought, wow,
that was a really cool
interaction that happened
on an interview.
Because there was a lot of
stuff out there that a lot
of the athletes that are in
the games don't have their
L1s or anything like that.
And in my interview with Saxon this week,
he talked about that if
you're competing in a sport
and there's a class to
learn about the movements
and the movement standards,
wouldn't you want to know
that information to make
you better at the thing you do?
So I wanted to get your thoughts on that.
And then Mike Halpin put out,
I think today,
on his known and knowable
Instagram account,
why don't we give badges to
put on the jerseys of
athletes who have their L1, L2,
L3 badges?
Or they're a country
champion or they're whatever.
And instead of just having a
leader's jersey or the
medals for champions, why not have L1, L2,
L3 as an option to put on
the jerseys and celebrate
those athletes that
actually have those things?
That's an awesome idea.
Yeah, I like that as well.
Yeah, he has a couple of recommendations.
So I actually could pull it up.
I think I have it close.
Like I get that they expire, um, over time,
but I still think that
while you're at the games that year,
you still held, you know, that credential,
um,
which I think would be a cool thing to
add.
I mean,
it would probably make some people
who maybe would consider
letting it lapse would go
renew it to make sure they
get that again on their Jersey.
I'm having a hard time finding it.
Of course.
Okay.
We'll do that another time.
That's a good idea, though.
I love it.
but yeah, it was, it was super cool.
And he had,
he had like pictures and
mock-ups and things like that as well.
They kind of, uh, showed all that.
So, uh,
Holly said sex interview was so good.
And Larry Young said badge idea rocks.
Uh, so yeah.
So there's that.
So now we're going to get
into the fun part of the show, hopefully.
I was watching a podcast,
a swimming podcast this week,
not CrossFit.
And they were talking about,
if you don't know,
there's a rivalry between
the United States and
Australia when it comes to
swimming at the international level.
They're the two best
swimming countries in the
world and have been for many, many years.
A few years back,
one overzealous fan brought
a cowbell to a swimming
meet that was pro-US and
would ring it all the time.
There was an interview done
with an Australian swimmer
who talked about how much
she hated the cowbell and
wants to make the U.S.
basically eat it and take
them out at either World
Championships or the Olympics.
I'm paraphrasing big time.
so some of the U S swimmers
were talking about it
because NBC is taking that
rivalry and promoting the
hell out of it as the
Olympics are going to only a month away.
And it's the big rivalry, right?
And swimming will be
probably the main event for
the first week of the games.
Yeah.
So I on this podcast,
it was two former swimmers
talking about how, yes,
there is a rivalry between
them and Australia,
but it's a friendly rivalry.
They're actually friends
away from the pool and they
hang out together a lot
because they're in the same
circles and they do the same things.
And it's not as heated.
And the person actually made
the comment didn't even
make the Olympics from Australia.
So she's not even there to like represent.
Right.
So my question is,
is it better when your
sport has these rivalries and is it,
is it okay for media to
pump them up to try to get viewership?
Oh, sure.
I mean, that's the exciting,
that's the exciting stuff.
People, people love that.
They, um, whether it's, whether it's like,
I don't know.
I mean,
you got to have either a hero villain.
Yeah.
Some type of rivalry.
That's, that's the exciting stuff.
You want to cheer some,
you want to cheer for the
underdog to take somebody down.
And yeah,
the media companies should
absolutely pump that up.
Yeah.
I mean, it's in every sport.
There's rivalries like in hockey right now,
let's say Angel Reese
versus Caitlin Clark for
the rookie of the year.
And people are building up
like they hate each other.
Whether the media,
you know,
pumps up the Australians or USA
for the swimming.
You know,
I think it's good for viewership
in the end,
the more that they can talk about it,
the better it is.
So no, I like it.
Do you think that,
do you think CrossFit's
fallen short on the Laura
Tia robbery for this year?
Yeah.
They could do more.
I mean,
they tried doing something with
Roman and Jeff and that was a fail.
But they could definitely pump up.
Now,
I don't think they have to go about it
like they hate each other.
I don't think it's about
hating each other.
I think they have a lot of
respect for each other.
I think everyone in our
sport has a lot of respect
for each other and the work
that everyone does and puts in.
But I think they could play on some of the
Some of the rivalries.
I mean,
we're seeing some of the fun like
male side developing right now.
It would be nice to have
something like that on the
female side just to root for.
But on the male side,
they're doing it themselves.
Yeah.
Well, Laura's not doing it.
Laura's like putting that stuff out there.
Her posts have been.
So I think she's trying.
Somebody's got to pick it up.
Coming to win.
Yeah.
And she has stated that you
could clip that stuff together.
You could clip a thing of Tia working out,
getting better,
hurt the names of her videos,
like making the comeback,
coming to take it over.
Right.
Laura saying,
I'm coming to win regardless
of who's there.
CrossFit should be taking
the Dallin Pepper Roman
comments from semifinals,
clipping them up, and using them to say,
the CrossFit Games are coming August 7th.
Watch Dallin and Roman go head-to-head.
They don't do any of that.
And you just mentioned it, Carolyn,
every other sport.
The Angel Reese-Caitlin one
is huge right now.
I mean,
people take it to a level sometimes
I feel like they shouldn't
take it for some of the rivalries.
But in general, it's great for the sport.
Like here we have that it's not necessary.
I don't think it's always necessary,
but you could still play it
like they each have their
skills and just showcase
how good these two are.
And these are the, you know,
the top two in our sports
going to be going head to head in August,
you know, August 8th to 11th.
And you promote, you know,
our top athletes like that
for the head to head.
But I still want to see, you know,
the other athletes get developed.
And yeah, any rivalries,
I think it's good.
back and forth at rogue you
could use that footage to
make tia won this event
laura won this event back
and forth they went you
know there's so many little
things they could have put
together to promote this
crossfit games there's
still time not much
So now my contention is that
people outside of CrossFit
that are running events are
doing a better job of that.
We've talked about how
Europe is so intense at
semifinals because you get
to root for your country.
So it has been announced that this year,
SoCal,
Guadalupalooza is doing a North
America versus the world.
Fit Fest just announced this
week they are doing Europe
versus the world.
Those entities see the value
in having rivalries and country pride,
right?
Continent pride,
whatever you want to call it.
What do you think about
those events doing that thing,
doing that?
Oh, it'll draw more eyes for sure.
Yeah.
I mean, we all,
we only see them in like
compete individually throughout the year.
So it's a chance for
different athletes to team
up and whether you're
rooting for team North
America or team world or team Europe,
it just allows, you know,
something that they have in
common and they become a team.
And it's just something that
you don't see.
We have the CrossFit Games teams,
but obviously we know that
these type of showcases would like have
great athletes individual
athletes going team and
it's just a higher level in
general yeah like sarah
says I hopefully they
broadcast fit fest this
time yeah and I i and when
I was talking to ariel she
said at fit fest there was
no like it was not supposed
to be competition but every
time they go three two one
everybody wanted to win
there was strategy on every workout
They were all trying their
hardest because they're competitors.
And I hope it's a broadcast.
I hope SoCal Waterpalooza
does a great job.
The cool thing about it only
being two teams is it
should be very easy to view
the competition.
And the different format for each event,
two-on-two, one-on-one, eight-on-eight,
it's going to be a fun thing to watch,
I hope.
And hopefully spurs some new
types of competition.
But I also think this is why
teams don't necessarily need to separate
from the CrossFit Games to
allow these type of
competitions to do these
exhibitions or these
showcases of these athletes
on super teams.
Like I don't necessarily
think that CrossFit needs
to run another competition.
Unless they would bring the
teams back with the masters
and the teenagers and
that's a whole package and
you have a lot of people in
the stands now going to see
their families.
you could do something like
that but if all of them are
going to get separated I
don't think that's the
right move agree agree
speaking of which we did
have a comment this week in
the youtube comments that
when are we going to start
interviewing masters
athletes one we have one on
this show every week two we
I did an interview with
rudy and lynette burger a week ago
We have one scheduled for
this week with a
mother-daughter who both
qualified for the CrossFit Games.
It'll be this Thursday and they're,
they're not able to attend
each other's event because
they're on the same weekend.
And so we're going to talk
about what that means to them.
And that'll be this Thursday.
So please check that out.
So we'll have a teen athlete
and a master's athlete.
And the plan was this will
be this coming week is the
last week I'm doing elite
interviews for the games as
we're getting too close to
to interrupt training
schedules going into the games.
So it'll switch over to
coaches and Masters athletes after that,
leading up to the Masters CrossFit Games.
So just to explain that to
everybody of the plan coming up.
So one of the other
interviews that Dave Castro did,
he was schooling somebody
on James Fitzgerald.
and uh the guy who did the
first butterfly pull-up and
was in uh every every
second counts shoot he
trains out of cross at
calgary or something like
that yeah I forgot the name
yeah I think it was in the
hattie canyo interview
actually uh because she
lives in the area where
fitzgerald and this guy
came from and uh and he
said if there was a crossfit hall of fame
those two would be in it
because of their
contribution to the sport
okay so I put into our
notes a question to you two
is if there was a crossfit
hall of fame and you had to
start it with three men and
three women now all other
sports hall of fames you
have to be retired
to be eligible to go into
the Hall of Fame.
And my caveat to that is
Masters competition does not count.
So you just have to be
retired from elite
individual competition to be eligible.
Who are your three men and
your three women?
Well, I think we all have Matt and Rich,
right?
No?
Carolyn doesn't.
I do have Matt and Rich.
Yeah.
I forgot about Matt, but he retired.
I will add him to mine.
One time championship she forgot.
Yes.
Matt and Rich.
Yes.
My third guy is Scott Panczyk.
Over Ben Smith.
Yep.
I don't feel like Ben's
actually retired yet.
Yeah,
I actually thought of Ben Smith and
then said I had to
disqualify him because he
competed in individual semis this year.
Yes.
I have Mikko Salo.
I think he changed the game
a lot for the Europeans to
enter the sport and train.
And Jason Kalipa.
Because you forgot Matt.
Which one wouldn't make it
if you had to put Matt in?
Probably Kalipa.
I think Mikko has an
influence with the
Europeans to really grow the sport there.
Yeah,
I agree that Mikko's influence on
Europe was massive.
And I really like Jason Kalipa a lot,
so it's a tough one between those two.
I'll give the edge for the
Just for the Europeans, I think,
just to grow it there.
We'll give it to Miko.
I got lazy and went James Fitzgerald.
He was the first ever champion.
And just like in the NFL,
the Hall of Fame always
does like an old-timers vote in.
And just so that people can
learn about how the sport started.
And James Fitzgerald has
been around the sport ever
since with OPEX and all of that stuff.
And so I go Matt Rich, James Fitzgerald.
Andrew Sten says, Rich Matt, Jason Kalipa.
And you'd probably have some sort of,
you know,
people from the first era would
probably get inducted first
before even like Matt would
get because he's one of the
more recent retirees.
So you would probably get, you know,
the Ben Smiths and people before that,
even though Ben's still competing.
So with the women,
they're all still competing pretty much.
No.
I'm trying to make a point here.
So you can't go Katrin.
You can't go Annie.
You can't go because they
are still competing.
Right.
Right.
Yep.
You can't go Tia because
she's still competing.
Yep.
So the Mount Rushmore of women...
ish is kind of off limits
because they're still competing.
So it makes it a whole lot harder.
That's true.
So who do you got for women?
I have Kristen Clever, Katie Henninger,
Sam Briggs.
Okay.
I had all those on my narrow down list.
I have a question mark for
Kristen Clever for me.
But I have Carrie Pierce.
Sam Briggs, and Annie Sakamoto.
I have Sam Briggs, Kristen Clever,
and Becca Voigt.
Becca's a very good one.
I had Wagner as well on my list.
I did too.
And I thought about Annie as well.
I understand that's Kristen Holta,
Tanya Wagner, and Katie Henniger.
Holta's great too.
Holta is one of my favorite athletes.
Holta Sakamoto.
Nobody with Carrie Pierce.
Y'all are crazy.
Sarah Cooper says Kara.
She's competing on a team.
I had it up in the air
whether that counted or not.
And to be honest, to me,
the other people I picked
either won it or Becca was
the first woman to go
double-digit appearances at the games.
Yeah.
Her long job.
She was a podium winner as well.
So with all of those credentials,
that's why I...
Katie was there too for me
because of what she's done
for the sport overall.
Champion and then moves into
a different realm,
but still has supported the
sport forever.
But I went on the court or
floor more than off.
See, like in my mind,
when I picked my athlete's mail and
female,
which is why I probably didn't
think about Matt.
Cause I was thinking more of
like the influence outside as well,
or just on the sport.
I mean,
Matt would have an incredible influence,
obviously.
I just,
he was so like near retirement to
me that I didn't,
I was trying to look further back.
Um, but yeah.
Do you realize Matt's been
retired for four years?
It's crazy.
That is crazy.
It's gone by fast.
Most underrated valve overall.
Who is making her comeback
at the Masters CrossFit
Games versus our very own Jamie Latimer.
Isn't Vale in the 45?
I thought she was 40 to 44,
but I might be wrong.
I thought she was 45.
Andrew Sten said,
I think women is harder to pick than men.
Definitely.
Definitely.
Because you have two of
Mount Rushmore that are
retired for the men.
Like that you just instantly
say they're up on Mount Rushmore.
And all like the three
greatest female
CrossFitters of all time
are all still competing.
Yeah.
So yeah, it made it tough.
Anything else on that?
No, I just can't believe I forgot Matt.
I feel dumb.
I get what you're saying.
He's not the one that comes
to mind for me first with
influence in the sport.
Of course he has a huge influence,
but he's just not rich.
He didn't bolster up CrossFit.
I mean, he had opportunities.
He had interviews that he could have.
I don't know.
I just...
But he's still in that freezer.
I know.
It's fine.
It's fine.
He came to my mind instantly.
Yeah.
Instantly.
Like, bam.
Draw your dagger.
Interesting question.
I have an interesting question after this.
Influential would give some
nods to Valenzuela, Tovar,
Camille LeBlanc, Bazinet.
They were it people.
Is it people influential or
just it people?
Yeah.
Yeah.
So influential to me,
like what Rich has done for
the overall sport and for
CrossFit in general methodology,
everything is super influential.
I don't think anybody else
in CrossFit has done what he has done.
So now like you're parsing things out.
Like I don't even think
Camille is embracing CrossFit anymore.
No.
No.
And, you know,
some would say that her one
win was kind of a fluky
programming thing.
Stacey Tovar is an affiliate owner.
She does contribute to the space,
but it's a much smaller
level than like a Rich.
Or even like a Becca Voigt.
Becca Voigt's been an
affiliate owner forever.
Yeah, I forgot about her.
She's a great pick.
And, uh, and then Lindsay Valenzuela,
I know she has a lot of fans,
a lot of fans, but I just don't think.
And for me, like Stacey Tovar is my girl.
Like that is,
that is before I ever got
into this media space.
That's who I rooted for.
And I wouldn't even put her
in at this point.
Maybe someday.
But no podiums.
One top 10 finish, I think.
So Valenzuela and Camille
had better finishes than she did.
um historic fitness says
it's because matt has
broken six athletes as a
coach uh not sure about
that uh if you looked at
what people wore in gyms in
the mid to late 2010s they
had a ton of influence
sad to say I wore the the
necklace that rich wore I
had the bandana um I wore
the shades uh yeah rich was
rich was my guy yeah uh
kenneth what about rogue
lady kitty henniger she
made a list yeah she was
sad uh none of the newer
people even know who tovar or clb are
You're probably right.
Other than that,
Stacey announced the games last year.
And that's probably all they know of her.
I'm saying that I think
those folks had a lot of
influence on the culture of CrossFit.
They did.
Most definitely.
I've got some.
I'll have to break one out.
I just know I did 14.5 in the full getup.
The rogue shorts.
That's the thruster and burpee one.
Oh, yeah.
Had the headband, had the necklace,
the whole bit.
I did it inside, so no shades, but
Rock tape on both knees.
Yeah.
Wraps.
Yeah, I think that was it.
So, yeah,
I'll break one out for next week.
We should all submit a
picture of us in like high
socks or whatever the goofy trend was,
goofiest trend you wore in the gym.
And if you guys in the
audience have goofy trend picks,
DM me with them.
And we will share them next
week on the show.
Sarah, it was not a Halloween costume.
Not at all.
It was what I wore to the gym every day.
All right.
Some quick hits as we head out tonight.
Number one,
I get to announce that, yes,
we got media credentials
for the CrossFit Games.
We got our approval on
Friday late afternoon as I
was driving to Michigan and
my phone was blowing up and
I was driving so I couldn't
pay attention to it.
But yeah, we got the access.
It's going to be interesting.
It was written out way
differently than it has
been in years past.
So it'll be interesting to
see what all that means.
We already talked about full
access to the behind the
scenes of the Masters CrossFit Games.
Super stoked about that.
And then it was announced
this week that ESPN will be
broadcasting the CrossFit
Games and they are doing an
international version on
the CrossFit Games website
and YouTube for the
international customers.
But in the States,
ESPN will be the primary
broadcaster and they are...
airing exclusive two-hour
blocks every day.
So, I think that's all that is.
That's the news.
Draw your dagger is as
cheesy as we all looked.
Think about how strong the
culture of CrossFit was then.
It's been downhill ever since.
The neon, the board shorts,
the tall socks.
I think it's, I think,
I think the culture is still
strong in some of the affiliates.
I think when we're in this media world,
we sometimes get sucked
into the negative narrative.
But when I go to the gym, it is,
everybody's great.
The community is awesome.
Everybody's cheering each other on.
And we're not even wearing neon anymore.
I wear...
Go ahead.
I would say I wear neon plenty.
But speaking of affiliates,
I'm surprised at how many
of the athletes are
training inside an affiliate.
I thought more of them were
training in their garage,
but almost almost all of
them in their interviews
have mentioned different
affiliated gyms that they're training at.
So I think that's a that's a
positive sign versus all
the athletes just training
away from the community and on their own.
It's nice to see that some
of them are coaching some
classes and still involved
within their communities.
Or one of them built their
own affiliate in their backyard.
Two of them soon with Ariel's too.
And Ariel actually,
the concept of hers came
from Emma McQuaid.
How would you like an
affiliate with freestanding
rig with a freestanding rig?
Have you seen it?
What's a freestanding?
What do you mean?
So it doesn't have any legs,
the pull up bars,
the rings from the ceiling.
Yeah.
That's how they have.
They have that.
They have rig too, but they,
they have the freestanding pull up.
Yeah.
it's been a long time since
I've been there but yeah I
do remember over the where
the lifting boards were
they have yeah I don't
think I'd like it
personally I don't know she
said it gave her all the
floor space she needed
while still having the rig
to do the like a long lunge
or a long whatever
And it's immaculate.
She said she's so picky and
everything's in the right
spot and it's super clean.
Well, she's proud of it.
It's her baby, right?
She built that.
She worked hard.
She won that Waterpalooza
money and I think put it
towards building that gym.
I mean, why wouldn't you keep it clean,
right?
You worked hard for it.
Yeah.
It looks awesome.
Dave was impressed.
I could see Dave wanting to
go there and check it out.
That's cool.
Yeah.
I'm telling you,
these Dave interviews really shocked me.
They are so good.
He is opening up so much to these people.
It's been awesome.
It's been awesome to get to
know Dave as more of a
human than just the guy
programming the games.
Mm-hmm.
it's going to be interesting
to hear from the athletes,
how much different the
interaction is with him
this year at the games,
as opposed to years past.
Yeah.
He might hate it.
He doesn't want to talk.
I feel like at the games and
now he's like opened up
this friendly vibe with
them and people are going
to want to talk to him.
I don't know.
It'll be curious to see.
But isn't that how you're
going to grow the sport?
They are your voice.
They are your bullhorn to
talk about what CrossFit is.
And so many of them are in affiliates.
So many of them are coaching.
Some have level threes, level fours.
You want those people talking about it.
So I think from a business sense,
he needs that.
He needs to open up that
door so that they can...
Like,
you remember back when Rich and Annie
won it and they went on
tour with CrossFit?
Like,
that relationship was severed at one
point,
and they need to reopen that so
that athletes are willing
to go do those things again.
But anyway, I digress.
Again.
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