Energetic Radio

On this episode of Energetic Radio, hosts Dale Sidebottom and Paul Campbell have an authentic and uplifting conversation. Paul bravely opens up about his recent health scare and what it taught him about gratitude, men's health, and the importance of early action. 

Together, Dale and Paul reflect on how challenges, big and small, can change our perspective, from moments that humble us in sport and daily life, to the power of travel, connection, and practising gratitude.

Expect laughter as they share funny stories (including Paul's swim training mishaps and a tough podcast quiz), while also diving deep into meaningful topics like overcoming anxiety, reframing pressure, and cherishing loved ones. 

This episode is packed with practical advice, encouragement, and real talk to help you take care of yourself, live fully, and appreciate every day. Don't miss out on the wisdom and warmth of this vibrant conversation!

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how you can bring more joy and happiness into your life and those you share

it with. Welcome back to Energetic Radio

podcast, episode number 372. My name is Dale

Cyborg, joined by Paul Mad Dog Campbell, who. Good morning. How are you,

mate? Very good, buddy. Very good. Now that is good. I don't have a stat

for number 372, but it's a big number,

so I think that's where we're going to start with. I was. I was sitting

here walking in today going, we are etching our way towards 400,

which is massive, isn't it? Huge. Highest test score.

Brian Lara, no one has beaten that. And he also has the highest,

like, international. No international first class score. Do you know what that is?

Playing for Warwickshire? I'm gonna imagine it's over 400. I'm go

512. Well, very close. 501. Not out. Oh, close,

not out. Retired. That's a good effort, isn't it? Yep. That's huge. That's what dreams

about.501. I got close to that in some backyard cricket games.

Playing by yourself? I used to play these late. Cut down Mr. Howard's driveway down

that way. It's magic. So old Brian Lara,

but there you go now, how have you been, mate? Things good?

Really good. Yep. Really good. Yep. Things are still flying.

Great run this morning. Family's flying, work's flying,

springs in the air, mate. Life is good. Can't complain at all.

Feeling good at the moment, actually. That's good. Feel the best. But it's my golf

game at the moment. I don't know. I think I've figured it out

a little bit and I'm just hitting them really well. You are hitting them. I've

got a bug. Big time. You're hitting them incredibly well, mate.

Oh, long, straight and delightful is what you're doing now,

mate. I don't know where you've got written down. I never do. But

let's talk about you, if you don't mind talking about this. Okay. Little.

Little health care recently, a little health scare. Yeah, I did.

You don't mind talking about? No, I don't. No. Thank you. I don't

know what you've got written down there. I'm sure you got questions about notes, but

I think it's important for people listening that.

Well, I looked a little Bit into, like, breast cancer and things. And I think

like 1 in 500 males get it. Yeah. So, like, it did. It is

something big and you didn't know much about it and I'll let you talk about

it in a minute. But for anybody listening out there, I think every now and

then as males, we forget that we do need to look after ourselves

and. Yeah. Pushing through and things like that. And what you did

was really brave, mate. So I'll leave it to you. Thanks, mate. Thank you.

Jeez, we're starting off with a nice and heavy one. That's right. No, I appreciate

it. It does. It needs to be spoken about because we should. We should promote

a lot. So now. Thank you. I appreciate it. Yeah. Probably about four

or five weeks ago now, just felt,

I guess, a bit of a sensation underneath my nipple. My

left nipple really tender to touch. And I just. From putting on a bit of

clothing, I was like, oh, that's a bit tender. And then obviously had a bit

of a feel and there was a. Like a little marble, like a half marble

under my nipple. And it's funny, as a man,

you kind of. That's nothing. And then I was. And it didn't go away for

a few days and it got a little bit worse and it was quite prominent.

I thought, jeepers. So I did a bit of Googling, which is the worst thing

you can do. And obviously, yeah, I knew that men could get breast

cancer, but didn't know it was 1 in 500, which isn't, you know, it's a

slightly alarming stat. And.

Yeah, went straight away. So booked myself in

immediately, which was very. And very impressive.

Yeah. Yeah, booked myself in immediately. Went to the docs. She didn't

muck around at all. She had one feel of it and was like, right, blood

test tomorrow morning. In for a scan tomorrow morning. And that freaked me out. I

know. You come back and I was like, I know. That freaked me out.

I think it was also sort of a story that when you

haven't been through, like, some. I've been through something like that with

somebody close and like, when it's so raw and you get that, you don't. You

don't know really what to say. No. And thank you. Your support

was amazing. It was. I know. I think the best thing you can do is

just know that you're there. Yeah. And that's. It's hard for the people around you

as well. And please leave it alone. Because even my wife Mel,

when the results came through positively, she then gave me a Massive hug and a

kiss and, you know, was super excited and. But she deliberately

left me alone as well. So for that three week period and through the whole,

you know, period of finding out and going through there, she didn't bring it up

at all. You know, maybe once, but not at all. And she just let it

go. And at the end she said, she said, listen, I. It's not that I

didn't care, it's just that I didn't want to keep bringing it up because I

knew you were dealing with it in your own way. And yet there was times

when it would be quiet. There was times where, I'll be honest, I had a

couple of tears in the car. Yeah, you start driving around, it's fun. I'm getting

emotional now even though. And you start running through

your head, you know. Yeah, how am I going to tell the kids if I've

got this and that? And it's a crazy little roller coaster ride and you

shouldn't go there, but it's human nature and you do. That's just, that's understandable. Yeah.

And you've got to live with three weeks. But yeah. So went to the docs

straight away. I went to the breast screening place and sat in the remaining room,

you know, surrounded by women. I was the only man in there. And it's

funny, you could see when I walked in the door in the clinic, you could

see the eyes looking at me and thinking, well, what are you doing here? You

know what I mean? Yeah, you are a little bit, but you're there.

I suck a fat one, dude. Yeah. So that

was an interesting experience in itself walking to a breast cancer screening location.

But you know, the oncologist are great, they're

great screening process, really diligent, you know, does both sides

all up in your shoulders. It was incredible. And he put my mind at

ease really. Well, 90% of them are benign in men, which is great.

And yeah, luckily enough the scan results came back and it is,

yeah, it's a benign and it's cyst like features to watch and

act. But at this stage I'm in the clear and I'll go back and do

some more tests soon. But yeah, it's definitely not as

alarming or concerning as what it was three or four weeks ago. And it's

crazy. I've had a couple of mates who have gone through like leukemia,

bowel cancer, all my age and both survived and both of them

both attests just. It gives you such an appreciation for life. Yeah. And it

really did for me. Too. You start man hugging your kids more, hugging your dog,

like, it's just really start embracing everything. And I'm a positive guy anyway, and I

live a life to the fullest. But it's amazing how when that happens, you.

You do it even more and it sucks kind of thing. You have to go

through that to really see life what it is now. Precious, it really is, and

how awesome everything around you is. But yeah, it's kind of

a little blessing too, because it's carried on like, I haven't just stopped now now

that I've got the clear. Haven't stopped thinking that way.

Yeah. So anyway, if you're out there and you're a male. Yes. Look after yourself.

If there's something not right, go and get it checked out. This sounds a little

bit gross, but I got a few mates that. This is so gross. But I

got a few mates that, you know, find a fair bit of blood in the

toilet tissue, on the tissue on the toilet paper after, you know, doing number twos

and all those sorts of things. And I'm like, yeah, go get yourself checked out

regularly. Now, I think it might be more common than what you think, but so

many men, they don't do it. Don't do it. Well, that's what I wanted to

bring up today. And it is funny. I just. I was a guest on another

podcast this morning and the. The

host, who I've been on his show quite a few times,

told me about a story that he was over his retired principal now and he

was over in Europe with his wife, and he fell over on this

trek in Finland or somewhere and, like, nearly died. And he

was just saying how all the things that was going through his mind, but

this is before the podcast, but all the things going through his mind while he

was laying there by himself, like, thinking he was gonna die. Yeah, like,

it really crazy, like, and. And the thought process and exactly what he

just said, that when you don't die or when the bad thing doesn't happen, that

you do have such a greater appreciation, appreciation for things in

your life, people place, experiences, and you start to realize who

are really important people. And it shouldn't get this way, but it'll be

exactly the same. Like, I've spoken for a long time at a lot of conferences

and normally there is somebody there that's had a horrific accident

or lost a limb or something like that, and. Or they're in a

wheelchair or they've got a debilitating disease or something like that. And they are

normally the happiest people in the world because their perspective. I

know we spoke about this last week with heels, but their perspective

is so different because they're just so grateful to be here. They're not worried about

what they don't have. And I'm not saying this, and I've spoken about these before,

that everybody should go through a really dark and hard

time. I know when I went through a big separation in my

30s, it actually, like, you come out better and it makes you

feel you do work on yourself and you actually become a better

person. Yeah. But it's so sad. I think that it takes

going through maybe getting cancer or falling over on

a trek or losing a limb or something like that for you to actually

realize what's important and to live life and how lucky you are. It is,

isn't it? It's crazy and, you know, morbid. You know, we should all live our

lives as though tomorrow could be the end. Yeah. Horrible way to think about.

Yeah. We don't. We don't do it. We don't do it. But

yeah, so it's kind of. Yeah. Blessing, disguise, but a bit of a crazy one.

Bit of a crazy life experience. And you know, what doesn't kills you, makes you

stronger. And you come out the other side a stronger human being with a new

look on life. But, yeah, And I'll apologize now to my

parents because I didn't tell any of my parents. So. Mum and Dad, I know

you listen. Know you listen. Jules definitely listens and I might give

a call before this is. If you don't,

I will. He will bloody call you. This is what's coming up. She will

crack it at me for. The second time she hears it. There's no way you

let me get. Cracking at me for not. For not. She's out of my. My

stepfather passed of cancer and so she's had a pretty horrible experience with it. So

I dealt with it myself. But, yeah, Mum, Dad, I'm sorry for not burdening you

with that over that time, but she just would have worried for three weeks, so.

But even on my mates, you know, you're the only one that knew. My wife

and you were the only two that knew because, you know, you're the two that

I spend most of my time with now. But, yeah, the support was awesome and

got through it. But, yeah, thank you. Yeah, it's good. It's a good message to

share. Go yourselves checked out and even if there's nothing wrong,

live life to the full, like. Yeah, yeah. And really appreciate it because it could

Be gone in a second. It's bloody crazy. Sorry, you've got heaps of notes. No,

no, no, I'm saying that. Let's get it. That is awesome. Well done. Thanks for

sharing. Last episode with Aaron Healey was a winner. Loved it.

What a just incredible, humble, very humble human

being who's lived a really cool life and had lots of really cool experiences

and had so many little amazing things to share. Yeah. The one thing that

stuck with me that I went home and told my wife about was. And it's

really little, but the thing he misses now the most is that the house is

quiet. His kids are, you know, 18 and 20, whatever it was. And I went

home straight away and told my wife that and I was just like, oh, that's.

I don't know what that, that grabbed me. I was like, oh, just enjoy the

chaos. I didn't tell my wife that at the moment.

A little bit of noise is all right. Chaos. Chaos, yes. That's

probably. I guess my chaos is completely different. Your cast.

Yeah, but that just that they miss it. It's quiet. So once. I know everyone

knows that, but just soak it up because it goes super quick. But yeah, if

you didn't give last week a listen, give a listen because it. We had some

awesome messages. Yeah, I know he's very humble and you want to talk about it,

but I would love to because when I played soccer, a couple of like

my mates like got. They went over to Europe very early and

like you just completely different world. I would have loved to know what it would

have been like as that age to be over in Europe playing.

Nearly professional soccer really well. It was. He represented Australia, you know what I mean?

But yeah, how the coolest message rare was it taught him perspective. Yeah.

But yeah, get your kids out in the world if you can. If you've got

the means to do it, travel. If you have the means to do it, travel

set them off if you can. I remember I took 30 odd kids on

World Challenge over to Nicaragua and kissed in Costa Rica. Oh, God, that. That

humbled them, you know what I mean? No doubt. Yeah. And they came back different

humans and. Costa Rica is too. Well, that's poverty. It was real poverty. You know

what I mean? We, we dug out and built the community's first flushable toilet

block at the school. Before then it was just a drop toilet at a school.

It's gross. But yeah, man, travel is awesome and it definitely

enlightens people, especially young kids. They always come back a bit different. So if you've

got the means to do it. Most definitely do it, plan for it. That is

absolutely awesome. I'm going to lead in that because we're

talking about humility. So I've got this further down and I'm going to come to

it. Now, my first question without notice for you. Yeah. All right.

Is when is the time that you've been humbled?

Playing sport or anytime. I don't care when it is

being humbled. I'm

really trying to think about this. A lot of time

you can be humbled even when you're, like, talking on

a stage or you're. I don't think you can ever go into a situation

and just think what you do is right or that you're always the one that

knows all the answers. And I think early days,

I was pretty confident. I still am confident. Yeah. But I was

sort of like, no, this is what I'm doing and I'm running it and this

is my way. And I think I've been humbled along

the journey. And I realize now that. That you don't need to be like that.

Then what you do is good, but you can also listen to other people

and, you know, take in, we're not all the same. Thank God. Imagine if everyone

was the same, what a boring bloody world would be. Right? And I think that's

the best thing, that some people, the way they perceive different things isn't the way

you do. So I'd say I'd be humbled and I've learned from it.

Just because not everyone's going to see the world through my lenses and I'm not

going to say it through theirs. So probably not one experience, but probably more.

When you put yourself out there and you're sort of on a stage or

you, you know, you're the one out there all the time, that you

don't always have to be right. And I think that's exactly the same as teachers,

coaches, anybody. You don't. Sometimes the best thing you say is, I don't know.

Or. Or I got that wrong. Yeah. Jeez, I stuffed that up. Yeah. And I've

done it. I've done it a couple of times recently. I've been talking. I'm like,

I don't even know what I was going to say. I did that and I

was like, I didn't even know. Let me go again. And instead of just trying

to make it up, and that's how people see that you're human.

Yeah. That's what I was about to say. Isn't that Funny when you, when you

put your hand up like that and people see you for that human being and

they can connect with you so much better anyway. And yeah, that's what I remember.

I don't even. It was a very recent keynote I did and I was talking

and I'd never done this before and I had to stop and go, I don't

know what I was saying there, but let's go again. And you said you've never

done that and I haven't. And it's like, I suppose when we do our videos

for our curriculum, we're doing hundreds of them. I believe in

just doing one take. Why? Because we are all authentic. You

could do 20 different takes. But that's not being humble. That's getting

something perfect that isn't perfect. I think sometimes people need to

see that we're not. So, yeah, I'd say mine has been a gradual

learning. Yeah, it's been humbled and yeah, that you're not

always right, you're not always the best and people aren't going to believe everything that

you believe in you or the vice versa. But that doesn't mean you're right or

they're wrong. Yeah, mate, that is a brilliant response for a question without notice.

Sometimes we get off these things. You're like, oh, I could have answered that a

bit differently, that one because you don't know what's coming. That was really well answered.

Thank you, mate. Have you got one? I've got a funny one. Yeah. And

this pisses me off now. Your question, not gonna lie. Half the time I

answer it, I'm like sitting there. Then I'll get a better one. I'm like, I've

already given mine. You've come up with a question and you've planned out a real

good response. That's the benefit. Put some bloody effort in before

I can the podcast for you. I got a quiz. Yeah, Half the time

I rec. You just ask a question to me because you want to share your

good response. Maybe I want to share my

funny response. Okay, sorry. I actually told you the other day I was humbled in

the pool. A couple of days ago. Anyone following along on

this journey of mine? I've been starting swimming and a couple of days

ago I went early in the morning and rocked down and I was,

I stood and I was like, holy. So I Normally swim to 25 meter

pool. The boom was right back, so it was now 50 meter pool. So instantly

I was like, oh, that's, that's a long way. And then not Only that I

was faced with full lanes, four or five in every lane, squad

training, full triathlon, every cap. Everyone had a swim cap on. I don't have

a swim cap anywhere in. I was the only one in bodies

shorts. Everyone was in budgie smugglers and

triathlon caps or whatever it is. So instantly I was like, mindset. I

was like, oh, swinging a bit tight. I was like, yeah, what do

I do here? And I was trying to look for the right lane and there

was a slow lane with two people in it, but I'm not a slow swimmer

and I just would have been up their backside. So I had to go on

a medium or a fast. And man, I thought I was cruising, you know, I

was so proud of myself for doing the forearm pull the other day. Mate,

50 meters is so much longer than 25.

I know. And then I got to. Obviously. And then they were only stopping at

the shallow end every swim. So you'd swim 50 meters up and then have to

turn straight, look, because people are up your backside. So what, you're just essentially doing

ten one hundreds. Essentially did ten one hundreds. And let me tell you, by the

end of that, by the end of every 100, that left arm was getting sloppy.

And it was good. That's good. But I didn't give up. And my breathing, I'll

be honest, my first three, 400 men in, my breathing was a little bit panicked

and I. Was probably fly to flight. Yeah. But you know, but the mindset, I

literally practiced the breach and I went, bloody hell, Paul. Yeah,

mindset. No one's looking at you, man. And I did. Everyone's looking at that. No

one cares. I said, breathe, relax yourself. Really. And I made it

through my K. But yeah, geez, that was. That was a

lot harder. A lot harder. The only good news is my watch beat numerous times.

New record. New record. Because I couldn't stop as much. Yeah. And I had. Keep

going. I broke me a lot of records, I think, which was cool. But, yeah,

you do love recording everything. I mean, I love intrinsic motivation. Like,

yeah, like, if you go for. A run, you gotta run, everyone. I'll map it.

And I don't. Like, I ran this morning, did 6K this morning. And before

I took off, literally said, I'm an idiot. Before I took off, I was like,

don't remember the time today. Just. Just get through the six. Just enjoy this. Why

not? Why do you have to map it? Because. I don't know. Because I still

did. And then even after K2, I was like, I'm feeling

pretty good here. And then I kept looking, watch. And then the last sort of

two K's had a little cracker and, you know, a little nudge and. And pushed.

And then, you know, got under 5 minutes K, which is really

comfortable with. And I was like. And I gave myself a little fist pump. Yeah.

I don't know. And it does my. I don't know why, but it does me.

Hit like. My wife goes for a run all the time but doesn't time herself.

And for some reason, even though she's got an awesome GPS smartwatch, doesn't use it.

And so do I. Yeah, it grinds my gears a little bit, but,

yeah, I don't know. For me, it's intrinsic motivation, maybe.

Yeah, that's fair enough, I find, because I couldn't get less. Yeah, you're just doing

the work, right? You're putting the work in. Yeah, I don't really care. Yeah. There's

been a handful of times where I've deliberately taken watch off and gone for a

run with them. And it is bloody free. So your mind's like, how nice is

this? I'm wrong somewhere about your phone. Yeah, it is a little bit, but, yeah,

I do like mapping everything. You are correct. You are correct. Yeah, I know,

but. Jeepers Cross, 50, man. I don't know if I'll be swimming at 6am again.

Might wait till after 8 when those booms are halfway. I thought they

debunked him, like. Right, well, 25 meters. You're pushing off the wall for 10 meters

every time. You're only really swimming. 15. Yeah. Anyway, funny story, but I was

definitely humbled. I need a swim cap and I need those budgie smugglers. Mel, get

me those budgies, mate. Buy something yourself about this conversation, darling.

Quite funny. All right, We.

We've been talking a bit about being proud and those sorts of things. Right. And

you wanted to see your own trumpet.

We're doing it again. Yeah. How's this? Right, probably yesterday or the day before, I

was. I was walking the dog and it started absolutely pissing down

with rain, right? Like, piercing down. I was halfway out there

and I was like, as you are. You're like, shit, Indy, come on. And you

walk and my head's down, my hands are in my pocket. I'm shielding my

hands, my head with one thing, and I'm sitting there going, oh, this is gross.

And I was like, walking, head down, this is gross. And I was like, come

on, Indian. She was like, wagging her tail, just meandering.

And then I went, what are you doing? I was like, enjoy it. It's a

bit of rain. It's not going to hurt you. And I just. And I know

the morning, it wasn't cold. No, it wasn't good. No. And I was practicing. Practice

what you preach, right? And I was like, change your mindset. And I had that

conversation with myself and I lifted my head up and I was like, this

is bloody beautiful. Enjoy it. And it's amazing. Then for the next

10 minutes of my walk back, even saturated, I just head was held high, didn't

care that I was getting wet. And I really, really, really enjoyed

walking in the rain. And I caught myself, went, man, just practice what you

preach. I think pretty good. We teach people all the time at the power of

the mind and your mindset. And you focus more, you know, you get more of

what you focus on. And just that simple little notion of,

yeah, walking in the rain. And I hate it at first. And then I was

like, no, change it. The mind is incredible. That's all. I don't know what I'm

going with this. The mind is bloody incredible. But then you're right. The next day

it was rain in the morning and the missus was at the gym and I

wanted to do a workout and it was pissing down and I just want to

do the workout in the rain, in the backyard, out in the rain. Didn't care.

Yeah, I know. New mindset, so worldly. Don't know it was so worldly. But

anyway, if you're out there, just believe in the power of the mind. And if

you. If something's going bad, just change your bloody mindset, would you?

Well, I've got the quiz now, so tell your mind that you're going to get

these right. All right, Now, I know there's a lot of different ones here,

okay? So once again, remember, you've got five. There's going to be five seconds. So

people at home can obviously do the answers. Yep. You

can't answer it straight away. Okay. All right. So my record had. We're doing 10.

Yeah. Yeah, because I got four. I won a 4.5. Yeah. I'm not

giving half. And I lost the heels last week. You did. On a technicality, I

thought. No, you lost. All right? And you're actually lucky because

he got ones wrong. So they just gave you points. You didn't actually get them

wrong. In other words, I was sucked twice. Let's go four out of ten. I

gotta be four out of ten. How many zeros are there in one

Billion. Five. You gotta wait. Sorry, people at

home. Five. I might be wrong. Nine. You got that wrong.

Right. All right, remember, you're going to give him a chance. Surely you'll get this.

You like this one, Zed? And which other letter are worth the

Most in Scrabble? 5, 4,

3, 2, 1. X. Q.

Oh, Q's 10. X is 8, I think. Yes,

it is. Very good. Now, question three.

Do you want an update on. No, I'm 0 for 2. I just didn't know.

Thanks. In the Fresh Prince of Bel

Air, what was the butler's name? 5,

4, 3, 2, 1.

Julio. Jeffrey. I was close with the Jason.

All right, question four. The unicorn is a national animal of

which country? 5, 4, 3,

2. Legitimate question. Yes. The unit. A unicorn. Yep. The

unicornal. Oh, my Lord.

Venezuela? No. Scotland. Oh, man. There you go.

You like octopuses? How many. How many hearts does an octopus have?

5, 4, 3, 2, 1.

3. Before I go there. Sorry, I'm on the

board. All right, you got one. All right. Havana

is a capital city of what country? 5,

4, 3, 2, 1. Cuba. Well done.

Oh, I'm on a rolling. Have you been there? No. I'd like to. I'd love

to get to Cuba. Yeah, I've never been there. Who was the first president of

the United States of America? 5, 4,

3, 2, 1.

Lincoln. That's a good guess. George Washington. Oh.

So, no, you did not get that. Which continent is the biggest in

the world? 5, 4, 3,

2, 1. The Russian.

No. China. Russian. Or is the American. No.

Asia. Asia. Yeah, that's what I meant. Like the Russian, Asian. Whole continent

thing. Russia and Asia aren't together. What? Oh,

God. Trying to picture the map in my head. All right.

Yeah. Now, you have played football or soccer at a very high level.

Yep. Who is the only football player. So. Soccer. To

score a hat trick in a men's World cup final?

5, 4, 3, 2, 1.

Maradona. No, sir. Jeff Hurst. I never would have got that.

All right, and the last one. What am I on?

You are on two. It can't be my record.

No, you have been your record. No,

it's a great one. Don't worry. What type of flour does

vanilla come from? 5, 4, 3,

2, 1. Vanilla beans.

That's what I would say, too, but no orchids. So, new record.

You got two out of 10. Stop giving me such hard questions, man. Some

of them I should have got. I did think I was picturing that Asian continent

in my head when I answered that one. But anyway, two out of ten. Room

for improvement. That's all right. Sorry, mate. That's all I've got. I

love it. I love it. I'll finish off with one more thing. That's really cool.

Lethal Lee, if you're listening. Thank you very much. He sent me through a

recommendation to listen to some Trevor Hendy stuff. He know.

He's been listening to us and he knows I love to listen to podcast. Go

back over the podcast. And I think I had Trevor on about four years ago.

Ah, there you go. So Trevor Hendy's been a guest on energetic radio.

It was a great conversation. He is very intelligent. Like any.

You'd ask him a question and he just go, like. And I don't think

I was ready for. Yeah, like, completely different. Any guest

I've ever had. Yeah. So it's a really good listen. It's an hour. Great

podcast. Yeah. He's brilliant to listen to and I wasn't aware of that, but he's.

I'm looking forward to getting stuck in more. But one thing has really grabbed me

early on during his heyday. Obviously

been an iron man and he used to smash at world champions, those sort of

things. And then he went through a period of not winning and got really stressed.

Mental health problems, you know, injuries, blah, blah. And

the thing that turned himself around was his mindset. And he goes, what. What

started happening was I just started literally practicing gratitude and focusing on

the good stuff and away from the events, away from the sports. And he goes,

what's that? I get to the start lines. And he goes, I'd already won before

I started. And he goes, that little shift in my mindset absolutely

changed his performances. And then he started smashing everyone again. So when he

relieved the pressure from yourself that only you

putting. That only you were putting yourself right, he goes, I'd get started, I'd be

like, you know, selling. G', day, guys. How are you? High five. All my competitors,

like, like, mate, what is. What's wrong with you? We're about to start this iron

man race and go through your torture and whatnot. And he goes,

just. It was incredible how once I shifted my mindset away from

internal pressure and I need to win to validate myself and

everyone's expecting this of me to just. My life is awesome. I've got

family this and that, and I've already won. I'm already on the starting line. Yeah.

And we talk about that. Pressure is a privilege. Yes. And you know, that's how

you frame that. Yeah. To actually be on that starting line.

So many people that probably do nippers. And particularly down like

Queensland and New South Wales borders. There's surf clubs everywhere. And

you think about the small percentage of people that actually get there, or any elite,

elite sport, then you think about how lucky you are to actually

be there. You've flipped the thing, you've already won. To be there. And whatever happens

is a privilege. But how often do you get on that starting line or

there's something going on or the booms are back.

Exactly right. It's actually a privilege to be there in that

situation. It is. And it's funny you talked about pressure as a privilege. A

good mate of mine, Clemo, who listened to us as well, he messaged in

after that podcast about pressure is a privilege. And I love the

way he framed it. He goes, I got taught this a little while ago. He

goes, all it is, when you feel pressure, it's your brain and your nervous

system telling you that it's important, that something's important. So now,

whenever he feels a bit nervous or anxious or a bit of pressure, he just

goes, man, this is my brain telling me that this is important. And that's really

cool. I'm about to do something important that's going to make me a better human

or change, whatever, challenge me, and I'm going to get something out of it whether

I do it well or not. And it completely reframed it for him.

And I think that's a really cool way to frame it for young people, isn't

it, when they feel nervous. How often do we go into a situation and some

kids go, I've got stress, I've got anxiety. I'm like, whoa,

whoa, whoa. We all feel those emotions, but we don't label

ourselves with it. And you know what, it's actually good to have that. And when

you do, lean into it, because that's how you grow. Yeah. Like. And I. I

just think labels, particularly anxiety, I know people do

suffer from it, but we. It's actually a good emotion. Stress and anxiety, we've all

got it. Yep. And it's good to have things in life that are

important to us. That's another front. Like, so, yes, you're nervous about this, but it

means it's important to you. And bloody how good is that? That you've got something

in your life that you're passionate about and it's important to you and you want

to try and do it the best of your abilities. That is a gift. Take

it. You're not sitting on the sidelines watching it go by. So that was,

I'll use that with my kids. I'll use that. My coaching for sure, before games

and those sorts of things. But I think it's a really cool little simple way

to frame it for anybody, adults or kids. Just if you're feeling

pressure or nervousness or anxiety about it, something just a brain

telling it's important and that's a good thing. And I think everybody gets that. If

you're going into a social situation for the first time or you

don't know people in the room or we still get it every time we walk

up on stage or in front of a group, like it's natural.

But there are things you can do that once you do those, it allows you

to be present. And essentially when you're present, anxiety and stress can't be

there. Yep. And I think that's where it comes back to. And so everyone's different.

So find your mindfulness. Yeah.

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