Clydesdale Media Podcast

We take our lunch break to talk about what is going on in the world, in Sports, Entertainment and of course CrossFit... Today we cook it up Cajun Style with Cory Leonard as we discuss the double winner... Issue??? and what the Hell is the WFP thinking?

What is Clydesdale Media Podcast?

We cover the sport of CrossFit from all angles. We talk with athletes, coaches and celebrities that compete and surround in the sport of CrossFit at all levels. We also bring you Breaking News, Human Interest Stories and report on the Methodology of CrossFit. We also use the methodology to make ourselves the fittest we can be.

What is going on, everybody?

Welcome to Lunch with the Clydesdale,

where we are cooking up

Cajun on a Wednesday

afternoon with my boy, Corey.

What's going on, man?

Same old, same old, brother, man.

Same old, same old.

Coach, this morning, rest day,

be a great day.

You don't take the universal

Thursday rest day?

I do not.

I say I do not.

I do not.

There's a reason.

It's not like I just said to

hell with what everybody else is doing.

I coach Wednesday morning.

So if I'm getting up at four

o'clock instead of five thirty,

like I would normally do or five, then,

yeah,

I'm taking today the rest of the day off,

get up,

coach in the morning and just take my day,

go on home, hang out with the family,

have our little family

dinner and whatnot and

Do what I do.

Yeah, I would love to do that.

As I told you,

we were texting this morning.

I had six meetings scheduled for today.

That should be illegal.

Straight to you.

what's crazy is I had four

when I left work last night

so I'm gearing myself up I

got four meetings how am I

gonna plan my day what am I

gonna where am I gonna put

stuff I log on this morning

and they've added two more

overnight now I've gotta

like now I've gotta fit my

day into like I mean that

leaves me like two hours to work

I was going to say,

so that's six meetings and

then they still expect you

to be productive on top of that.

Like, you know,

I see you get your work

done in addition to all

this other nonsense.

Right.

And like I told you,

the one meeting literally

was them telling us where

they are with all of our projects.

And they could have,

they showed a spreadsheet

on the screen while they

were going through it.

Why not just send me the spreadsheet?

That is literally the

definition of this meeting

could have been an email.

Man,

people coming in with topics hot and

heavy already.

Jody, Aaron, what's going on?

Aaron Frazier with,

how about Tyson at the open announcement?

Anytime the Chicago Bears get publicity,

I'm here for it.

Dude,

how awesome would it be if Travis was

doing the actual announcing?

Like if his dad was like,

if they go real old school

and just have him come out

and just... Because...

That dude was so over the top all the time,

but it was awesome to watch.

He was damn good at his job.

He should still be out there,

in my opinion.

Do you think Tyson's doing the workout?

I thought I read that he was

doing the workout.

I've, I just saw the announcement,

like literally when I'm,

when I have this many meetings,

I have no time to like

dabble in CrossFit during my day.

Um, what,

so I don't know any of the details.

Right.

So one, my, my first thought is,

is he doing the workout live?

Like Aaron saying live on TV?

I, and if I'm the bears,

depending on what this workout is,

what are my thoughts?

There's GM just watching him go,

like just punching the air

the entire time.

Right.

Cause he's one of the best

backups in the league.

Yeah.

They are prohibited from

doing things in the

offseason that may get them hurt, right?

Yeah.

Like, yeah,

I'm sure there's clauses in

their contract,

all kinds of stuff like that.

But, I mean, technically,

it's just a workout.

He just so happens to do CrossFit.

I mean,

it's not a secret that he does CrossFit.

Right,

but he does not during the season

because the strength and

conditioning coaches will

not let him do it during the season.

bananas crazy and I think he

like he had a discussion

with this with Hiller like

early on and it's really

like it like CrossFit does

it's a lot of squatting

it's a lot of hinging it's

a lot of hips and they

don't want them burnt out

during the season

So I get that.

I get that from that perspective.

I talked to a volleyball

coach way back when my

daughter was playing

volleyball who did CrossFit,

but he would not let his

girls do CrossFit during the season.

So what about the minimum effective dose,

though?

Like, they got to do something, right?

Well, they do work out.

They do work out.

But it's a very...

And you could call anything CrossFit,

right?

If you're putting a couple

things together.

Right.

But it's more designed with less hinging,

less hips involved because

they want their legs fresh

for the season.

Sports specific, let's say.

Right, right.

Dude, I just, and Aaron's right.

Like, okay, so I'm not crazy.

I did see that.

He's going to be doing it

alongside them three animals.

So you got the fittest man on earth.

The second fittest man on earth.

I mean,

the three dudes that could very well be.

And the fourth fittest man on earth,

right?

And the fourth fittest man on earth.

Yes,

I'm saying the three guys that could

definitely be on top of the

podium at the games this year.

That's a possibility that could happen.

And Tyson,

the backup quarterback for

Chicago Bears that everybody loves.

FYI,

I have not seen a person say a bad

word about Tyson.

You can't.

He's too good of a dude.

Well,

Adrian Conway says you can find any

high schooler to squat five

hundred pounds and run a

five-minute mile.

I don't know about any,

but I'm sure that there are several.

Just kidding, man.

He ain't wrong, though.

He's not wrong.

Yeah,

when I was in high school playing

football, I squatted five hundred.

Yeah.

And I probably...

I probably ran a five minute

mile back then.

I went to, I mean, uh, Oh, good Lord.

He was in eighth grade when

I was graduating.

Uh, his name will come to me in a second,

but he went to my high

school and he ended up playing in NFL.

I'm sure he spotted five

hundred and ran like a four something.

I ran a five something.

Yeah.

But, and then that was,

that's because of the swimming.

Like my cardio was just like

through the roof and then,

and then the football and I

was strong anyway, my legs,

I've always been able to squat, but like,

I still couldn't do muscle ups.

Right.

You know, I couldn't do.

So even though like Adrian

makes the point that you

can get like these couple aspects of,

sure you can find high

schoolers to do that to do

the complete gambit of what

a games athlete does

probably can't find that no

but I think what he's

getting at is that a lot of

that kind of stuff like the

the five hundred back squat

and five minute mile thing

like that was a thing for a

while like people wanted to

do that and you're almost

looking at it as like a

baseline right like

um for a say a baseline call

an estimated baseline

somewhere in the in those

numbers for a games athlete

like for a male you're

gonna back squat somewhere

in the realm of five

hundred pounds you're gonna

run a five something mile I

mean at the games uh last

year what did it what it

was the slowest one like

five forty five or

something like that and I

would I stopped paying

attention after because my

draw was on the floor with

ricky's four something

Exactly.

That's what I'm getting at.

Like Brandon ran a five something.

And then he, and remember him saying like,

he thought that was gonna

be pretty fast and he was

towards the back of the pack.

That's insane.

So I think what Adrian is

getting at is like, like, you know,

with the right training,

you can find people that

can do what you do.

And maybe you should just

back off and thinking that

you are God's gift to whatever it may be.

And just kind of,

be humble.

Yeah.

I think you're going stronger than he did.

I think he was saying we've

lost touch with our roots.

We've lost touch with our community.

The athlete has,

you can't say like a

hundred percent they have, but a good,

but a good,

a good amount have lost touch.

I think the Mayhem people

still work out as a community.

They still drop into classes.

I think Emily Rolfe still

goes to the affiliate.

Emily Rolfe is amazing.

That video of her knocking

the Smirnoff Ice back after

the announcement last night,

you're with the people.

I had to move her to the

prime spot after the Smirnoff Ice, man.

Absolutely.

Absolutely.

I think that's why people

love Colton so much because

he's relatable.

Well,

and he still goes and does open

workouts at Kilo or,

you know what I mean?

Like whichever the other one is.

Yeah.

And he's there mingling and

hanging out and talking to people.

And like, those are his people.

He knows people there.

he does this stuff at crash, right?

Like, so,

so people still are there and

they're still doing it.

It probably isn't as,

it probably isn't as

connected as it was back in

the day because,

because nobody did it full time.

Everybody worked another job, everybody,

you know, it was.

And so they,

they were part of that gym and,

The whole season revolved

around that community.

Regionals made it so easy

for a community to all hop in vans,

head to a location,

and root on their athletes.

Absolutely.

We don't have that anymore.

One of my,

so Mark Moss texted me yesterday,

as a matter of fact, and wanted to know,

he's like,

trying to plan a guy's trip to go to,

what's the other one in Tennessee?

Syndicate.

He wanted to go to Syndicate

and wanted to know if I wanted to go.

And I was like, dude, I would love to,

but if I tried to plan

another trip right now,

my wife would probably put

a pillow over my face while

I was sleeping because we

just got so much stuff going on between,

Family vacation, adult vacation,

me traveling to compete at

Monster Games and then

probably at Legends again and whatnot.

I can't make it.

Much as I would like to, I cannot make it.

Well,

I would love if you came to the

CrossFit Games here in

Columbus for the major,

because we would hit it hard, man.

Here's the problem with that.

It's, uh, August, the right weekend.

It's late August for sure.

So, uh,

some friends of ours are playing or, uh,

one of my best friends, matter of fact,

I'm planning a adults only

trip to Key Largo,

to the keys at the beginning of August.

And going back and forth.

Yeah.

Well, no,

we're going like we're in my wife's.

Yeah.

Jennifer decided we are one

hundred percent doing that.

Well,

I say that we decided we weren't

saying that.

But we can talk to Jennifer decided.

Yeah.

I told her I said, when is this again?

She's like the first weekend in August.

I said, oh, she said, what?

I said, well, I mean, if I make the games,

that's like the last weekend in August.

I got to go to Ohio.

And she goes, I mean,

what does that have to do

with us going to Key Largo?

I said,

I'd be training for like two weeks

before the games, dude.

Like I can't just go on vacation.

She said,

you can work out while we're down there.

I said,

I already looked up CrossFit Key Largo.

They follow me in program

and I'd be all right.

Yeah.

There you go.

Well,

speaking of like planning out your year,

I have what might be, could possibly be,

Strap in boys and girls.

So I've been saying on here

about how I'm trying to get

media credentials for the WFP.

We are one of the few shows

that have been kind of

supportive to the WFP, right?

A lot of people are tearing it down.

Yeah.

I say, let's give them a chance.

Let's see what they can do.

So back last week,

I sent an email asking for

credentials to the media

team at World Fitness Project,

asking for four media passes.

So there it is, you see.

Wednesday, March fifth.

Wednesday, March fifth, a week ago.

Isn't that interesting?

So don't hear anything back.

It's fine.

I figure it's going to take a while.

sitting around the house

this weekend and the guy

that does video and photos

for me when I can't go to a

place um and he's generally

west coast uh he was at

water palooza this year um

but I if he if I'm not

going somewhere like I will

get him credentials he

shoots stuff sends it to me

and then I then I can put

out an ig presence like

we're there covering right

So I get a DM from him this week,

and he's asking if I'll

help him get credentials

for the World Fitness Project.

And he sends this attachment,

which is a link to an

application to sign up for

media credentials for the

World Fitness Project.

Okay?

I'm like,

did they put that link out publicly?

Did they, he said,

I emailed them and they

emailed this to me saying

that because I emailed them,

they're going to give me

priority over the people

that get the public one later.

I'm like, okay.

So I send,

and I did not copy this because

the only person that did

response to me with the WFP

is Will Morad.

And he responds to me within minutes.

Like it has been very, very good.

But I did not screenshot

this because I do not have

permission for that conversation.

But I texted him and said,

this is pretty peculiar.

Plus, before all of this,

I asked if I could partner

with them to do features on

their contender athletes.

Right.

Right.

I know you guys are doing a

lot with the contracted athletes.

We wanted to feature the

people challenging them, the challengers.

That's a better story, in my opinion.

Right.

Because they're going to

have to come up with their own stuff,

their own money, their own trip,

and they're going to try to

get a pro card, right?

So they're fighting for this

for next season.

Yeah, no, I'm in.

And all the partnership was

was to help us get them

scheduled for interviews and stuff.

I didn't want any money for it.

I didn't want anything.

And then we would promote the challengers,

right?

Never heard anything back on that.

will said he would send it

to his media team media

team has never gotten back

to me so then I see this go

out that the media pass

application will be

available this thursday and

this was yesterday it came

out so my guy got the link

on saturday or sunday

I emailed them last Wednesday,

heard nothing.

And then this goes out that

the media pass application

will be available this Thursday.

Not a great start to make

friends with the third party media.

And again,

there have been a lot of people

trashing them

And we have said, hey, cool it.

Don't criticize them.

Let's see what they can do.

Well, yeah,

don't shit on them before they

get out the gate.

I mean, that seems a bit much.

And then us who have done

this and we ask for that

and we're getting the

runaround and we're not

even getting responded back to.

That's way more rough to me.

This is exactly what I thought, Jody.

That's way more rough to me because, bro,

like in my business,

I deal with people all day long,

sending quotes out for

proposals and whatnot.

Tell me no.

Yeah.

I don't like you.

I'm perfectly fine with no.

But tell me something because otherwise,

like you –

I don't like that at all.

Don't ghost me for no good reason.

I'm just asking all that.

I'm like, I'm fifty five years old, right?

I don't have time to play games.

No.

So I said,

if you don't like what we're

doing or you don't like

want us to be there, just tell me.

It's perfect.

I'll move on and plan the

rest of my year a different way.

Happily.

But but to dick around with

me like this is just horseshit.

That's not cool.

Well,

and they just didn't know that I work

with that photographer and

didn't know that I would

see that stuff early.

Here's the thing.

But you're trying to grow that thing.

You're trying to get off on

the right foot.

This ain't the way to do it.

No.

And I don't think people like that.

I won't say like that.

you don't realize how many

steps away you are from things.

Does that make sense?

Like I know, I know Mark Moss,

Mark Moss has Adrian

Bosman's phone number.

Adrian Bosman has Dave

Castro's phone number.

So I'm three steps away from

talking to Dave Castro at

any given point in time.

And the same thing with you, right?

I think it is, but just, right.

I'm just kidding.

It's not that easy.

I'm aware of that,

but just saying like this

community is not as easy.

like it's still pretty tight

knit for being what it is,

especially when you get

into the organizers and the,

like it's a lot of the same people.

Well, and truth be told,

there's a lot of us smaller

entities that need to

partner with each other to

help each other out.

Yeah.

And that's what we do.

And that's what I propose to them.

Like, Hey, you guys are new to this.

All I want to do is partner

with you and get access to

your challengers so that we

can do features on them.

That was it.

No response at all.

And then the shit gets copyright stricken.

What gets me is that I'm

trying to highlight your business,

the thing that you were doing,

and I want to do it for free.

I just want you to be

involved with it so that when I do it,

it doesn't get lost in the shuffle.

Right?

So I just want...

And nothing.

Like crickets on the other side.

And that is mind-boggling to me.

The hardest thing right now

is my plan was to follow a

person from the in-person

semifinal to the tour event

one of the WFP to an in-person semifinal.

From an in-affiliate to a

WFP to in-person.

And I can't even get that

kind of signed and

planned without the WFP being a part of it,

right?

Giving me media credentials

to be able to follow that person.

So yeah,

to be there when they actually do it.

Right.

So my plans are like all on

hold while they're dicking around.

And I don't know if he knows or not,

but time keeps marching on.

Like we're not getting any

further away from it.

No, it's just, it's so frustrating, man.

And it's,

I feel like there's a lot of that

in this space,

like just fighting and

crawling and fighting to

get everything you need to

help promote the sport.

It's not like I'm going to

do this with CrossFit at times too.

Yeah.

What I don't understand is that it's,

Like you said,

there's not that many people doing it.

So why would you want as

many people doing it as humanly possible?

That would seem like a no-brainer to me.

Like, oh, yeah, absolutely.

Sign off on it.

Moving right along.

I can't perceive or conceive, I should say,

of what the holdup would be.

Like, why not?

Why not say either way?

Why not either say, yep, absolutely,

Scott.

Be glad to have y'all.

Who do you have in mind?

We'll get you some credentials for,

you know, get you access, basically.

Or to say, nah, we're taking care of it.

We have our own media team.

We're going to do this whole

thing ourselves.

I appreciate you moving right along.

Or just telling you to get

and just sending you on your way.

Because then you don't

control the access and market.

If you're giving access,

I feel like you're still

controlling the access.

Scott got firsthand at the games last year,

the Masters games,

whenever they had access

and restricted it the next day.

Yep.

We were trying to fill a hole, right?

You're not going to be able

to feature every one of the

thirty athletes,

and those challenges are

going to change every tour event.

Yep.

We have shown that we can

get through over a hundred

semifinal athletes in a

short amount of time.

I was thinking about that,

how many interviews you did last year,

earlier, and it's a mind-boggling number.

Last year was the smallest

number because it was the

smallest window of time.

Yeah.

The years before that,

we went over a hundred.

But what I'm saying is that

you were doing them one

after the other after the other,

like sometimes two and three a day.

Oh yeah.

Towards the end.

I remember that clearly.

Done that for three straight years.

And so I already have

relationships with a lot of

those challenger athletes

because nobody else,

nobody else pays attention to them.

Right.

Big shiny objects.

Yeah.

So, you know,

I was going to take those

relationships that I built,

help you guys out.

You help us out by partnering with us.

Give us a little love that we're doing it.

Share some of our stuff.

That was it.

That's all I was asking.

I didn't want any money.

I didn't want any.

It doesn't matter.

I'll quit that riff.

But the other thing I wanted

to ask you about,

and I've been talking about this all week,

is Colton and Miriam both

won one and two.

Yes.

So we have both elite men

and women have the same

winners for week one and two.

Does that shine a negative

light on the programming to

find the fittest to move on?

And I then back this up with,

And I love Holly Dugan, Dana Wadd.

She is awesome.

She put this out last night

and we collaborated.

These are the other double

winners in the other age groups.

So six age group athletes

won both event one and event two.

I don't know how big Kevin is.

I've only seen them in pictures.

You think that's crazy?

These are the adaptive who

have won event one and event two.

Wow.

And you think that's all of them?

No, there's another page.

Really?

Twenty-five athletes won

both event one and event

two in all the different divisions.

Okay.

I was going to bring up the fact that,

you know, uh,

Dallin pepper is in what third or fourth,

something like that.

Um, but that is, that's a lot of data.

I love Tristan.

What?

No, Scott.

Of course,

now that we have watered down

the loading and skills in the open,

it's not biased towards

range of motion at all.

No way.

That would be crazy.

And then the lap.

Those athletes just wanted more.

Yeah.

Twenty-five athletes

throughout the divisions

all won event one and event two.

Holy cow.

I missed that.

I did not see it.

I went to bed even earlier

than normal for me.

So I must have missed that

last night when Holly put that up.

But that is insane.

Holly works through the night.

I wake up to go pee in the

middle of the night and I

wake up to a request.

Hey, do you want to collaborate?

Sure.

I'm accepting it at like

four o'clock in the morning.

Dude.

So you said twenty five.

Twenty five.

The cream always rises to the top.

Come on, man.

He's been... Miriam has

never been to the games.

Colton has never finished

higher than what?

Nineteenth?

Yeah,

I think last year he was his highest

finish.

Or year before last.

You're talking about the games.

Yeah.

Right, but that's what I'm saying.

Like... Bro.

It... Yeah.

I...

I think Tristan is on to something.

We have watered it down too far.

I'm going to say this.

So everybody's talking about the leaks,

the leaks, the leaks, the leaks,

the leaks, right?

Oh,

we're going to have dead lifting and

rowing and wall walks.

And I'm repeating something

or adding on something that

I heard the other day.

I don't remember what show it was on,

but somebody was saying

that if it is in fact dead,

rowing and it doesn't matter

the third movement then you

have basically repeated

last year's open as far as

the loading is concerned

like if it's not over a two

hundred twenty five pound

deadlift we just assume

have done twenty four point

two again if that's what

twenty five point three is

going to be minus the

double unders we just added

in a different movement oh

we're still rolling and

deadlifting there's been

nothing that's heavy

Like I am forty seven years

old fixing before eight and

one hundred thirty five

pound thrusters are just

it's just not that heavy.

I was taxed because I was tired,

but it wasn't because I was heavy.

The vast majority,

if not all of the elites,

did them unbroken.

The the first workout,

the twenty five point one,

it was just a slight

evolution of what twenty

four point one was.

We did burpees over a

dumbbell and we did

something with the dumbbell.

Last year was more of a sprint.

This year it was how long

can you hold on for?

How long can you sprint for, basically?

I was talking to a friend of

mine yesterday and said,

I almost regret not doing

it again because knowing what I know now,

I probably could have got

twenty five or thirty,

thirty extra reps by

pushing harder at the beginning.

It's the only one I haven't,

I say the only one, Mike, we have done,

there's only like a billion,

seventeen of them, but out of the two,

I only did, redid,

I redid twenty-five point two.

I didn't do, and I should have done,

redid that one.

I'd be higher on the

leaderboard right now.

If it's not something that

actually has a separator, yes.

Thank you, Tristan Patrick.

One hundred percent.

Please bring that up, Scott.

People are interested in

muscle-ups and heavy cleans,

not burpees and wall balls.

There's a way to earn your right to those.

Yeah.

It doesn't have to be at the beginning.

It can be back when there was no scaled.

You never started a workout

with muscle-ups?

One.

It was one.

One time.

And it was at the end of the RX world,

maybe.

I don't know.

It's hard for me to remember all that,

but...

There's only one open

workout that I know of that

starts off with ring muscle-ups.

Right.

But I think they were

scaling at the time that

allowed you to at least start it.

Right.

But he's not wrong.

Everybody I know, myself included,

give me something heavy.

Let me do some ring muscle-ups.

I understand it's the open, but the open,

when I first started doing

this and I didn't have ring muscle-ups,

which was actually not that long ago,

That's what I was aspiring

to all year long.

I want to be able to do a

ring muscle up if they come

up in the open or if they

will come up when I win

quarterfinals was still a thing.

Or last year for semifinals,

I was nine different kinds

of excited because I could

do them for the workout.

I wasn't real good at them,

but I could at least do them.

And it's because I've been

working my butt off all

year long to be able to do that.

But there's a lot of

accessible movements that

we are not doing that are

not range of motion.

And we'll probably get a couple this week.

So the same people probably

won't win event three.

But, like, box stepovers, box...

That's not there, right?

People with long legs are

going to do way better than

a short range of motion.

The row is probably going to

show up this week.

Wall balls are going to help

the taller athlete get a

little heavy with some deadlifts,

things like that.

We haven't done barbell out of it too.

Like it seems like it's a

lot of dumbbell stuff early on,

not like barbell cleans or a snatch.

Yeah.

Well,

I get the snatch is not as introductory.

Um, I understand that,

but if we're in a three

week open and we're in the

third week of the three

week open and all we're

going to do is put off the floor, um,

over I get you too we

haven't seen toes to bar we

haven't seen um I don't

know there's just there's a

lot of stuff out there but

I something is wrong if

that many people have won

both one and two I wouldn't

yeah I didn't realize it

was that many like kudos to

holly for for looking at

that and figuring that out

and posting that that is an insane stat

Really and truly like twenty

five people across however

many divisions that is like that's a lot.

Yeah, I looked at when it came through,

I looked at it and I was like, well, OK,

six more Masters athletes.

OK, I can see that.

And then as I went through this and went,

oh, good Lord,

all of those adaptive athletes.

Wait, there's another page.

Insane.

Insane.

And why is nobody else talking about that?

Because we have the best

stats and information

person in the business.

The fact that she found that,

just that she was able to

look at that and realize and go,

holy crap.

Yeah.

Twenty-five different people.

Yep.

And I'll tell you why nobody

else is talking about it.

Because there are two elite

athletes that are in this group,

and the rest are age group and adaptive.

And we're one of the few

shows that pay attention to

age group and adaptive.

Even still, I mean, Kevin Coaster is...

in in our masters community

is an absolute animal like

that dude is a beast I know

I know I know the name I've

seen pictures of him he's

he's ridiculous um caroline

everybody knows caroline

everybody respects caroline

as I did want to highlight

that too not just rant

about it but you know our

very own correct lydesdale

media's own carolyn privo

did win events one and two

in the thirty five to thirty nine

Yeah.

And, and people,

people love her and respect

her and they should like, she's a beast.

No question about it.

Um,

but it doesn't matter if they're in

that division, those divisions,

those are still,

those are still divisions.

Like you can only have two

people doing that in the open division.

Does that make sense?

Like if it's going to happen,

it's only going to happen for two people.

Aaron Frazier says the

people need adaptive

divisions are so small.

The folks at the top are so

much fitter than the rest.

I would agree with you if it was five.

Yeah.

Some of those divisions are

pretty competitive.

And if the fact that there

are six masters athletes

and two elite athletes that

both repeated as well,

And six math athletes over a

fairly wide range, right?

You got one.

These are teen girls down here.

The last two teens,

four masters still and

nineteen adaptive or seventeen adaptive.

That's that's that's wow.

It is.

You can't say, oh, well,

it's just Masters because those two,

the girls and the teens, there's a good,

strong possibility they

stay on the path and don't

do anything crazy, get burnt out,

whatever.

You're going to see them later on,

especially that Maria Granzino.

Well, and I...

I will tell you,

my belief is after workout three,

the leaderboard's going to

shake up huge because a lot

of the same athletes were

at the top for both one and two.

And they're probably not

going to be for three.

If it's anything we've been hearing.

Everybody keeps saying, like,

Colton's going to fall off.

Colton's going to fall off.

Colton's going to fall off.

Colton's going to fall off.

Depending on what it is,

you might be right.

They might absolutely be right.

I would venture to say I

lean more towards Miriam

falling off than Colton

just because I don't know

enough about her.

I love Colton,

but there are things he cannot do.

Yeah, and he's aware of that.

And every athlete has those things, right,

that they're not as good at.

Us short people are just not built to row.

That's all there is to it.

only person that matt

frazier tia and rich are

the only people that have

and even rich couldn't run

no rich said he he only

started enjoying I say

enjoying running here in

the last freaking five

seven years when he was

actually competing

individual he did not care

to run at all that was

evident triple three he

couldn't swim but he

figured that out pretty quick

Ain't dead.

I'm about to start swimming.

My stuff should be in today,

as a matter of fact.

My new goggles and my got me a swim cap,

Scott.

My hair on the wraps.

I never wore a swim cap, dude.

In all my years of swimming,

never wore a swim cap.

Scott,

I am so terrible at swimming that I

need every single advantage I can get.

So if I can cut down on

however much drag it is by

putting my hair up on the knee there,

that's what I'm going to do.

what I used to do is let my

hair grow long and then

when the big meat came,

I would cut my hair really short.

So training tools,

like having a parachute

while you're running.

Yeah.

We used to wear like,

we used to wear like gym

shorts in the water to, to train.

And then, um,

and then you'd wear your like tight,

whatever suit for the competition.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Uh,

Were you a Speedo guy, Scott,

or a Jammers?

I'm so old they didn't have Jammers.

Oh.

Yeah, it was Speedo only.

Damn.

When we had the first camp,

first off the camp that we

had swimming at,

I remember texting Brandon and asking him,

like,

do I really need to go get some Jammers?

And he was like, yes, go get some.

He said, if you're going to swim,

you can just swim and get some.

And I said, all right, well,

So I love them.

I mean, they're comfy.

They fit.

I don't know how much they

help or don't help,

but it definitely feels

better than just swimming in my shorts.

That's for sure.

Yeah.

And the technology they have in suits now,

but they're like five, six hundred bucks.

They actually will help you float.

God,

I don't know if there's a force on the

planet that can help me to float.

Yeah.

without some sort of actual

device that is made to help

somebody float.

Yeah.

Back in the day,

we had to kick hard to keep us afloat.

We will, me and the family will be at, uh,

Jennifer's cousin's got a pool.

We'll go over there and

we'll be in a pool at Dwayne's house.

And I'll swim a couple of

laps and come play with the kids.

And then, uh,

I'm just kind of in the

middle of the water and treading.

The first time my wife saw me doing that,

she's like,

why don't you just roll over and float?

And I said, I don't float.

She said, everybody floats.

And I was like, no, they really don't.

And I rolled over my back

and he immediately sunk to the bottom.

Like, I don't,

I don't float and I've done

everything everybody's ever

told me about.

I hate to tell you this,

but you should brag muscle doesn't float.

Yeah.

Even when I wasn't.

The leaner you are, the less you float.

Yeah.

See, Tristan understands.

I sink like a rock, dude.

Denise said there might be

one more because Pam Kusar

should be on the list for

sixty five to sixty nine.

But there's one crazy score that is not.

I keep so.

Being the guy that I am,

I keep looking at the rankings, right,

seeing where I'm at.

oh and I'm fine I'm in the

same final spot like I

really don't care but I'll

go start looking above me

and I go start looking at

their score look at their

score relative to like

their placing last year and

I'm like wow you have made

some improvements over the

course of a year impressive

like the guy that was in

second place for twenty five point two

was in eight thousand

finished eight thousand two

hundred and seventy

something last year in our

age group in the open and

somehow managed second on

the first workout hey good

job buddy that I want to

finish with one last thing

and we don't usually do

this type of thing on um on

our show but uh

I leave this up to the

hillers of the world, usually.

If I can find, yeah.

So I'm going to share this screen.

And I'm going to ask you one

quick question.

Hit me with it.

Are you ready?

Absolutely.

Natty or not?

Oh, no.

That is such a dramatic transformation.

Six weeks, dude.

And he's selling a new

programming so you can look like that.

Does it come with the

needles already prepped?

Like you don't have to put

the hydrostatic water in

them or whatever it's called?

Come on, man.

what is it we hustle hard or

we I don't hustle me you

don't quit we hustle or

whatever yeah whatever I

quit following him a long

time ago yeah I can't I

can't deal with this

content anymore uh and plus

he's he's just rude in

person man I believe it but

damn someone someone's

taking a peptide or two

yeah and look that's what

you want to do bro more

power to you don't care

It scares the shit out of me, Scott,

to put anything in my body

that I don't know what it is.

I've been telling you a billion times,

I want to be fit enough at

some point for somebody to

accuse me of being on some

sort of performance enhancing whatever.

Watching the Hiller videos,

he taught me that this part right here,

that trap there, ain't natural.

Let's blow that up.

Come on.

It's like this big around.

It looks like.

That's either a whole lot of

Photoshop or a whole lot of juice.

If it's Photoshop,

he did a damn fine job at it.

God bless him for it.

Yeah.

If I knew way less about pharmacokinetics,

I'd be so much more Jack

because I'd be on gear.

That's why it scares me so much, dude.

He has a beard,

so he can't see his jawline.

That's fantastic.

Denise, our awesome.

Sixty five plus division athlete.

You haven't seen my traps.

She must be yoked now.

It's so like I can't.

I can't do like I'd have to.

You understand?

Look, we had a random program,

a straight up pump session yesterday.

Snatched snatch pulls, bench press.

dumbbell bench press and

finish it off with bar dips.

And I got home and I wasn't,

and I felt like I was this

big around and turns out I was not.

You understand?

Tristan says the more you learn about it,

the more you realize you

can really F yourself up.

Yeah.

It's the only part of me that is my,

my guy is fluffy.

I think she meant my gut is fluffy.

Come on, Denise.

You are one of the biggest

inspirations I've ever met.

Denise is great.

Tristan is right.

That's what gets me is that

the more stuff I hear about it, right?

Or like even TRT, like, oh yeah,

you're probably going to

have to be on shots for the

rest of your life to keep your shit.

What's the word I'm looking for?

to keep yourself balanced

basically for the rest of your life.

And I'm like, bro,

I'm fixing to be forty eight right now.

I don't want a shot today,

much less one twenty years from now,

just because something I did today,

I'm going to be all right.

Like, I'll figure it out.

I'll work around it, whatever.

And if that's if that's why

I don't make it to the next

level I want to be at, then OK,

when I'm seventy five and

not sticking a needle in myself, then

I'll be I feel like I have

won the game at that point

listen at there was a point

in my life I wanted to be

jacked now I just want to

uh not have my back hurt

when I sit in a weird way

right yeah like that's my

goal enough exercise to

keep me where I can pick up

off the floor I can get up

off the toilet that's what

uh greg glassman said like

I want to be you want to be able to

Get up off the toilet and

wipe your own ass whenever

you're eighty-five years old.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And I can't do it with the opposite hand.

I tried after Kat said that.

I'm going to try today.

I'm going to try today.

I'm going to text her and

tell her I know how it went.

Yeah.

All right.

This is what they find, Scott.

They tested me right now.

Whatever's in here,

I'm definitely going to

test positive for that.

What brand is that?

That's Ghost.

Uh,

Denise does enough so she can get out

of bed without rocking my phone.

Yeah.

There you go.

Yeah.

A hundred percent Denise.

Absolutely.

Like I don't want to have to do this.

Yeah.

Every time you get out of a

seat just to get up out of bed,

like when I was five hundred pounds, man,

that was my life and I have

not gotten back there.

And I'm so glad I am a

strong ass squatter that

can get up off of a chair.

can wipe my own ass and I

can bend and pick things up

off the floor now and

that's that's good that's

winning baby boy so oh yeah

jack so with that um man

yeah we've gone a little

bit long today so hopefully

you are not late getting

back to work if you are get

back to work you hooligans

We'll see you tomorrow for

the round table and back on

Friday for lunch with the Clydesdale.

See you guys then.

Bye.