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Video games are riddled with choices. Not just in dialogue, but in how you decide to play them. This week Gerry and Aaron are joined by Jala to discuss our approaches to certain types of games!
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17:07 - Open world games
38:52 - Fighting games
50:41 - Walking simulators/ horror games
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[00:00:00] I had something I wanted to fucking say but I forgot.
[00:00:03] Um, what was webcam shit made me forget?
[00:00:07] That's okay.
[00:00:08] You also have that, you got that doughy sick brain like I do.
[00:00:12] That's true.
[00:00:13] I'm not as nasally as I was yesterday so that's good.
[00:00:16] I feel like on that stream for the direct I was like, um, I really like roguelikes.
[00:00:21] I'm excited for roguelikes.
[00:00:23] That's me.
[00:00:24] I'm the boss.
[00:00:25] Or whatever the fuck.
[00:00:26] That's okay.
[00:00:27] I absolutely am a podcast.
[00:00:28] I've absolutely podcast when I was like feverish and having chills and shit from COVID.
[00:00:34] Oh, that'd be so cool.
[00:00:35] And with bronchitis so yeah.
[00:00:39] I'm not, I'm not there.
[00:00:41] I'm not there yet.
[00:00:41] I'm just like, I was there though like the day of my birthday.
[00:00:46] It was like my body was like, Hey man, I just wanted to let you know your piece
[00:00:50] of shit and now you're almost 40.
[00:00:52] So happy fucking birthday.
[00:00:54] That's okay.
[00:00:55] This dilapidated body of mine.
[00:00:58] I would do a podcast episode.
[00:01:00] Like it's all one sentence.
[00:01:02] It's like maybe 30 minutes long, but it's in all like one big S run on sentence.
[00:01:06] That'd be really cool.
[00:01:07] You gotta keep the fucking gravy train rolling.
[00:01:10] Being feverish is pretty fun.
[00:01:15] What a do listeners.
[00:01:17] My name is Aaron.
[00:01:18] I've seen the face of God and they gave me cataracts.
[00:01:21] And I'm Jerry.
[00:01:22] I'm sick and you might even say I'm Demure.
[00:01:25] And you're listening to super pot saga.
[00:01:37] You heard it right listeners.
[00:01:39] It's super pot saga.
[00:01:40] I might have to end the show early because yeah, the word Demure is very overused.
[00:01:44] I'm getting real tired of it.
[00:01:45] Jollis will cancel this word please.
[00:01:47] I'm not just tired of it.
[00:01:49] I'm like ready to rage about it.
[00:01:53] I worry like it's pretty easy to cancel things these days.
[00:01:56] Can we just like accuse Demure of doing something to each and every one of us
[00:02:00] and just be like, we're done.
[00:02:02] Let's get rid of that original person.
[00:02:04] I have no problem with them, but like the use of the word overuse of the word.
[00:02:09] The word itself.
[00:02:11] I'm just over it very over it.
[00:02:13] My favorite thing is when people miss you use the word ironic or like irony in
[00:02:18] place of like a coincidence or something that drives me insane.
[00:02:21] People just using words wrong drives me insane too.
[00:02:25] But then it's very hypocritical because I have Jerry brain and a lot of
[00:02:30] times I'll just say the wrong thing anyways.
[00:02:32] And someone will be like, you know, it's totally not the right way to say that
[00:02:35] word. And I'm like, I like it.
[00:02:40] Yes, listeners, it is super pod so good is indeed your favorite podcast in the
[00:02:45] whole entire world. Hello.
[00:02:47] It's me, your lovely, awesome, perfect podcaster, best friend, Aaron.
[00:02:53] Of course, joined by Jerry.
[00:02:54] Yeah.
[00:02:56] The angel. Hi, Jerry. What's up?
[00:02:59] Hey, man.
[00:03:01] I'm we're we're gonna take a day off and.
[00:03:05] Do I need to take it?
[00:03:07] They are you need to take several.
[00:03:08] I need to take a couple days off.
[00:03:11] I need to like lay down and I need to die and then being
[00:03:15] recartinated or something.
[00:03:16] I'm already losing my voice and we're not.
[00:03:18] Look, we just got through a fucking B roll.
[00:03:20] But here we are.
[00:03:22] Here we have showed up.
[00:03:24] That just means you're going to sound like a really great blue
[00:03:27] singer by the end of the show.
[00:03:29] Oh my God, I never thought of that.
[00:03:31] You're going to sound like Eddie Vedder, dude.
[00:03:34] Or wait, no, maybe not.
[00:03:37] Maybe it'll be more like any better.
[00:03:39] More like, oh, I can't think of her name.
[00:03:42] It was a really old actress.
[00:03:44] Her voice always sounded like this.
[00:03:47] I can't think of her name.
[00:03:48] Are you talking about she did the red carpet and shit all the time?
[00:03:52] Right? I think I don't know.
[00:03:55] Moving on.
[00:03:56] Yeah, let's move on.
[00:03:59] Let's move on.
[00:03:59] Yeah, we'll have Gertrude and HR hit you up.
[00:04:02] Get you some PTO days off for that sickness, man.
[00:04:05] No worries.
[00:04:06] Yeah. So this is the podcast for each week.
[00:04:09] Jerry and I, we dive into different video game topics,
[00:04:11] different guests, hang out, have fun, talk, video games,
[00:04:13] video game accessories.
[00:04:15] Today we're joined by a brand spanking new guest.
[00:04:18] Hello, Jala.
[00:04:19] I'm spanking?
[00:04:20] Damn. OK.
[00:04:22] What's up? I'm spanking y'all.
[00:04:24] Yes, it's like a number with like the
[00:04:27] I'm trying to draw memory from stuff.
[00:04:30] Kind of. Yeah.
[00:04:31] You know, I remember how whenever a new guest
[00:04:35] she's over here slapping and spanking and.
[00:04:39] Question that.
[00:04:40] But that's OK.
[00:04:42] Remember when they had new episodes of Doug
[00:04:44] that always say brand spanking new Doug?
[00:04:47] That's I don't remember.
[00:04:49] It sounds accurate for Doug.
[00:04:51] Yeah, I hate that theme song so God damn much.
[00:04:55] I still hate it, dude.
[00:04:57] I still hate the whole show.
[00:04:58] Patty Mayonnaise get the fuck out of here.
[00:05:01] Yeah, so dumb.
[00:05:02] I'm just the fucking.
[00:05:04] Who was the writers?
[00:05:05] I mean, like, guys, I got it.
[00:05:07] I got it.
[00:05:09] Fucking Patty Mayonnaise.
[00:05:11] Who? What?
[00:05:15] And like, we're all content creators like suffer so much
[00:05:19] just trying to be like, like, man,
[00:05:22] what kind of topic can we come up with today?
[00:05:24] But then some fucking asshole at Nickelodeon
[00:05:27] back in the fucking disay is just like, guys, Patty Mayonnaise.
[00:05:32] I think they were talking about their lunch.
[00:05:34] Like they had a Patty Melt and they put mayonnaise on it.
[00:05:37] And then they were like, that's it.
[00:05:39] That's the name. That's the character.
[00:05:40] I wonder if they have an assistant that's one of the characters.
[00:05:44] And then like.
[00:05:46] Yeah, like they had an assistant named Patty and they were like
[00:05:50] and she always fucked up everybody's like lunch order or something.
[00:05:53] And then she's like, hey, Doug, what did you want on you?
[00:05:56] Patty Mayonnaise Mayonnaise just made on the hamburger.
[00:06:01] You're fired.
[00:06:02] Well, we're naming a character after you fired Mayonnaise.
[00:06:06] Patty unemployment mayonnaise.
[00:06:10] Yes. Hi, Jala. Hello.
[00:06:12] Welcome to the show. It's great to have you here for anyone who hasn't
[00:06:16] heard you before. Go ahead and introduce yourself and your show
[00:06:19] and your socials and plug everything you need to and tell us all about your favorites.
[00:06:26] What happened? We've done ice cream.
[00:06:28] We've done chicken sandwiches and pizza.
[00:06:30] Tell us about your favorite vegan dish.
[00:06:32] Lizard. Oh, favorite lizard. Lizard.
[00:06:35] OK, I've actually got a very good answer for that.
[00:06:37] OK, so I'm Jala.
[00:06:39] You can find me everywhere I can be found at Jala Chun.
[00:06:42] I run a podcast that's called Jala Chun's Place.
[00:06:45] It's a show that's just a bunch of random things, random topics.
[00:06:50] Usually I go between a media like a book or a movie or a TV show
[00:06:55] or whatever comic video game, that kind of thing.
[00:07:00] And we talk about that in depth.
[00:07:02] The last one I did was on Lunar.
[00:07:05] And then as of the time we're recording, but probably like before this
[00:07:09] episode comes out, I will have an episode about Johnny Mimmonic,
[00:07:13] the movie and the short story.
[00:07:16] So that'll be coming out.
[00:07:18] And so we go between that and then we also do like real life topics,
[00:07:22] real super important topics to people like burnout or gender dysphoria
[00:07:29] or diversity or whatever, like a bunch of different topics, toxic masculinity,
[00:07:35] neurodiversity. That was the last one was neurodiversity, things like that.
[00:07:38] And I have a bunch of different people who come on the show
[00:07:41] and talk about it from a bunch of different walks of life.
[00:07:44] So you get a lot of perspectives about a bunch of different topics.
[00:07:50] And so what's fun is that you will hear people from our podcasting circles
[00:07:55] show up in some of those topical episodes, not just the ones that are
[00:07:58] related to video games and movies and stuff.
[00:08:01] So for example, Matt Stormageddon was on talking about empathy
[00:08:08] and also about portal at another time when I covered the portal IP.
[00:08:14] And then you also have both of those conversations at the same time.
[00:08:18] Yeah, right. So and then also we had Dave Jackson on for both
[00:08:25] body weight fluctuation and body image stuff as well as Metroid fusion.
[00:08:30] So I mean, like different episodes, different people pop up and talk about stuff
[00:08:34] just from folks that I talk about, you know, talk to in
[00:08:38] the random selection of folks that we have in our circles.
[00:08:42] But then I also have been on another show called The Level,
[00:08:45] which is a video game roundtable show by Duck Feed TV.
[00:08:49] You can find that at the level podcast dot com.
[00:08:52] And that is a weekly video game roundtable where we talk about what we've
[00:08:57] been playing and have a listener question and then also talk about video game news.
[00:09:01] And so I am a rotating member of that cast because there's five total people
[00:09:07] and you can't have five people on a show. Fuck that.
[00:09:09] So we rotate out and around.
[00:09:12] So actually like right before this episode comes out,
[00:09:15] I will have been on the most recent episode.
[00:09:18] So hell yeah.
[00:09:19] Yeah. Yeah. You also asked me for my favorite.
[00:09:23] What? Oh, Lizard. Right.
[00:09:24] Lizard. Yeah.
[00:09:25] So I had a lizard.
[00:09:26] I randomly decided that I wanted to go to Repticon,
[00:09:29] which is a reptile convention.
[00:09:31] I don't know why.
[00:09:32] And I went sounds like a sick transformer.
[00:09:35] I know, right?
[00:09:37] But it sounds a lot more baller than it is.
[00:09:40] It's really just a bunch of people like people who love lizards and snakes
[00:09:44] who all just kind of gather.
[00:09:45] And then there are some vendors that have a bunch of lizards and snakes for sale.
[00:09:49] That's what it is.
[00:09:50] I was expecting a lot more.
[00:09:52] I don't know what I was expecting.
[00:09:53] Maybe people like cosplaying as their favorite animal or something.
[00:09:57] But I don't know. I didn't get.
[00:09:58] I didn't get all of that.
[00:09:59] But I did fall in love with a panther gecko
[00:10:02] and I bought him and brought him home and I had him for over a decade.
[00:10:07] And Indra, he was very cool.
[00:10:09] So that is my favorite lizard.
[00:10:12] Man, that's so on the topic of geckos, by the way,
[00:10:15] I used to have an albino leopard gecko named Chad
[00:10:18] and he was the cutest little fucker ever as little like pink tail
[00:10:21] and as little like yellow spots and stuff.
[00:10:25] Unfortunately, he passed away because he had a bunch of like
[00:10:28] skin on his head that he couldn't get off properly.
[00:10:31] And you're not supposed to like touch him or I was like
[00:10:34] would spray water in there periodically and he couldn't get it off.
[00:10:37] So he suffocated.
[00:10:38] RIP, Chad, I miss you, buddy.
[00:10:40] Yeah. Yeah.
[00:10:43] I think mine basically died of old age.
[00:10:45] He was like already past the like lifespan that they have
[00:10:49] when he did pass away.
[00:10:51] So I think he just got so old that he just, you know,
[00:10:54] he's like, I don't know how to be a reptile anymore.
[00:10:58] Yeah. Yeah. How do I work this thing?
[00:11:02] He's he's like that skid on I think you should leave
[00:11:05] where he's got like that crazy suit on.
[00:11:07] He's like, I want to be around anymore.
[00:11:10] It's too fucking hot in this thing.
[00:11:15] Oh, man, I got too much shit on.
[00:11:18] Too much shit on.
[00:11:35] What the fuck are we talking about today, Aaron?
[00:11:37] Say we're doing another cool open like free form discussion one
[00:11:42] at first it was a totally different topic, but then Jala was like, wait,
[00:11:45] here's something even better.
[00:11:47] So Jala, you explain.
[00:11:49] You're the one that wanted to discuss this and you changed it.
[00:11:52] They're like it's your fault.
[00:11:54] You fucking explained it.
[00:11:56] Right. Right.
[00:11:57] So yeah, I decided that I wanted to talk about
[00:12:02] the approach that you have to video games
[00:12:04] and how that changes your experience of games.
[00:12:06] And there's a lot of reasons that I was thinking about this topic
[00:12:10] and we will get into it as we continue on with the show.
[00:12:13] But two different people who are going and playing the same game
[00:12:17] are going to have vastly different experiences,
[00:12:19] not just because they make different choices,
[00:12:21] but also like how they tackle the game
[00:12:23] and what their own personal objectives are
[00:12:26] when they go into any particular level or scenario
[00:12:29] are going to be different.
[00:12:31] So absolutely before I mean, I play Mario with my hands,
[00:12:35] but if Aaron wants to play with his feet, then
[00:12:39] isn't that not higher supposed to?
[00:12:42] Then it's no 64 controller was made for feet.
[00:12:45] Well, I mean, there's people who play with bananas as controllers.
[00:12:49] So I mean, that's true.
[00:12:50] Yes, very impressive.
[00:12:52] Very, very impressive.
[00:12:54] Jerry, what kind of controller do you think first seen like a video
[00:12:56] of someone like playing Dark Souls with a fucking like a guitar hero
[00:13:01] guitar when I was like, oh, this is wild.
[00:13:04] This is incomprehensible.
[00:13:06] Like I can't understand.
[00:13:06] And then it's like a month later, someone's like,
[00:13:09] if you see this guy playing Dark Souls with bananas and I'm like,
[00:13:12] what is that sentence?
[00:13:14] What do you mean? Right.
[00:13:16] None of anything that you just said is doesn't have any logic to it.
[00:13:19] And then they showed me the video and I was like,
[00:13:22] this motherfucker is playing with bananas.
[00:13:24] Yeah.
[00:13:25] Playing God damn Dark Souls bananas.
[00:13:27] Well, I mean, so winning.
[00:13:30] So I suppose I should just kind of give on that note
[00:13:33] a little bit of a, you know, example of what I mean by like
[00:13:39] the approach to video games and how that differs.
[00:13:41] So one really fun example is when I was playing Chronicles of Riddick
[00:13:48] Escape from Butcher Bay and like in the beginning of that game,
[00:13:53] you are going, you know, you're on like the prison ship
[00:13:56] and then you were coming to Butcher Bay and then you get off the ship
[00:13:59] and then Johns is there and you're supposed to go in.
[00:14:02] That's all you're supposed to be doing.
[00:14:03] In this part.
[00:14:04] But because I'm me, the first thing I did would go completely a wall.
[00:14:08] And I was like, can I kill Johns?
[00:14:11] And it wouldn't let me kill Johns.
[00:14:12] So I had to redo.
[00:14:13] And then it's like, can I kill this guy that I'm supposed to talk to?
[00:14:16] And I could and I killed him, but then I couldn't advance
[00:14:18] because I couldn't talk to the guy.
[00:14:20] And then I was like, can I dodge the bullets when they start
[00:14:24] attacking me for killing the guy?
[00:14:26] And so I did and I got underneath the bridge,
[00:14:28] but then I couldn't come out because I didn't have a weapon
[00:14:31] to attack anybody with.
[00:14:32] And I kept on doing this over and over again.
[00:14:34] And my husband eventually was just like, will you just go through
[00:14:38] the fucking gate?
[00:14:40] And I'm just like, I am having so much fun trying to break this game
[00:14:44] right now, like you don't understand.
[00:14:46] This is me.
[00:14:47] Like I I'm like, no, I wouldn't go through there.
[00:14:50] I wouldn't go complacently into this prison of hell.
[00:14:53] Like no way.
[00:14:53] I've got a I've got a fight.
[00:14:55] So if you play like Killzone and it's a very linear game
[00:14:59] and they're like, follow that path right there.
[00:15:01] See it in front of you?
[00:15:02] Follow that path and shoot that thing with that gun right there.
[00:15:06] You're like, fuck that.
[00:15:08] Let's go see if I can get in that water.
[00:15:09] Yes, exactly.
[00:15:11] And like, like say, for example, another one would be the game
[00:15:17] IC so in the game I see it's I see I see E Y.
[00:15:22] You should check it out.
[00:15:23] It's very cool.
[00:15:24] Anyway, like it's a it's a kind of beat them up type of thing,
[00:15:28] but it's got like multiple paths that you can go through
[00:15:30] and everything.
[00:15:31] And it's got like a narrator that will tell you like what you're doing
[00:15:36] and say, oh, and then I see went this way, but you can go multiple ways.
[00:15:41] And then every single time, of course, I'm like, fuck that.
[00:15:43] I'm going over there.
[00:15:44] This other place that you didn't tell me to go.
[00:15:46] And then the narrator gets mad at you kind of like it's Stanley
[00:15:50] Parable and is like, but then I see didn't pay attention.
[00:15:53] It went the other way and all this other stuff.
[00:15:55] And it's really fun.
[00:15:56] But anyway, also the game is very good.
[00:15:58] You should try it.
[00:15:59] So that's very fun.
[00:16:00] Yes. So me going in while is pretty regular.
[00:16:04] I have a lot more examples, but like me to much y'all.
[00:16:07] Let me let me just toss it to somebody else.
[00:16:10] Well, before we get to that, we can get any further topic.
[00:16:14] OK, listeners.
[00:16:16] Yeah, if you love the show, feel free to go check us or check out
[00:16:19] all of our stuff on Superpot Network dot com.
[00:16:21] Everything's super pot sogas there are socials, restaurant rehab,
[00:16:25] super ghost radio support Jerry.
[00:16:27] He's a busy guy.
[00:16:28] It's for Bill.
[00:16:29] He's busy to the rack find time.
[00:16:32] Remember 64, all the fellow, all the sorry, not all the fellas.
[00:16:36] There are some ladies there too.
[00:16:38] All the people that's like in the mafia.
[00:16:41] All the fellas, fellas, all the time.
[00:16:45] All these fellas, these good fellas.
[00:16:48] But if you really, really like Superponsaga,
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[00:16:55] It's even if it's you to leave a comment.
[00:16:57] Say like, Hey, Aaron, your voice sounds like butthole.
[00:17:00] I don't know if you really, really love Superponsaga.
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[00:17:04] OK, let's go with the topic.
[00:17:06] All right, I can't hold this in anymore.
[00:17:08] I also go a wall a lot like with Elder Scrolls Marowind.
[00:17:14] You can actually like doom the timeline and the message will pop up.
[00:17:17] It'll be like, you have doomed the timeline.
[00:17:19] You need to reload your save.
[00:17:21] Otherwise, like you can't do anything.
[00:17:23] And I've done that entirely too often.
[00:17:26] I would just massacre like an entire town just because I could.
[00:17:30] And then it'd be like, yeah, you know, to save.
[00:17:33] Yeah, dude. Oh, it was the greatest.
[00:17:35] See what happened.
[00:17:37] Oh, yeah, I killed multiple towns in Marowind and then to like in Marrow.
[00:17:41] I will. OK, first, I will never, ever, ever, ever.
[00:17:43] If you give me an open world game, I'll never fucking finish it ever.
[00:17:46] Yeah, ever. Not at all.
[00:17:48] I've never been Skyrim.
[00:17:50] I have never been insane or me neither.
[00:17:52] Whoops. Any any Elder Scrolls game, any open world game.
[00:17:56] Never, never have.
[00:17:58] I've only been oblivion for the achievement.
[00:18:02] Well, like so Marowind,
[00:18:05] I decided to kill everybody in town
[00:18:09] multiple times different towns, several different towns.
[00:18:11] I killed it, everybody or everybody except for the most important people,
[00:18:14] something like that.
[00:18:15] So it wouldn't break it, but it would give me like all of their houses and stuff.
[00:18:19] So and then I decided that I was going to get a particular pattern of plate
[00:18:25] and a particular Dweemer artifact, and I was going to collect them
[00:18:29] in my Balmora house that I took from somebody.
[00:18:32] And so I like, and you know, like in Marowind,
[00:18:34] there's like 70 billion different plate patterns
[00:18:37] and they're slightly different.
[00:18:39] So like I would I wouldn't be like,
[00:18:41] I couldn't remember which the pattern was until I got back home again.
[00:18:44] So I would have like 7000 plates in my inventory
[00:18:46] and then like Dweemer artifacts, which are so heavy
[00:18:49] that I had to keep on using the alchemy skill to make all of these potions.
[00:18:53] So I was constantly drunk because you have to make like the
[00:18:57] like alcohols and stuff to gain strength to be able to carry this stuff.
[00:19:01] So yeah, like that was my Marowind experience.
[00:19:05] That's awesome.
[00:19:07] So the way that I approach like a Souls like game,
[00:19:11] I kind of approach it kind of like I'm trying to lure
[00:19:15] a woodland creature out of a forest with a handful of tree nuts.
[00:19:19] Like it's like a skittish woodland creature and I'm like, it's OK.
[00:19:23] It's OK. Come here.
[00:19:24] And then I realized that that woodland creature is not a skittish animal.
[00:19:28] It's actually a honey badger and it just rips my fucking face off.
[00:19:32] And I usually get to the point of like deep,
[00:19:39] deep sorrow playing these games where I'm like,
[00:19:44] should I keep playing this and punishing myself?
[00:19:47] Or like, do I just go play in RPG?
[00:19:51] And the answer is I must be a masochist
[00:19:54] because I just cannot stop punishing myself.
[00:19:57] And I fucking love it.
[00:20:00] And I am not alone, apparently, because there's a lot of people out there
[00:20:04] that enjoy the punishment of the Souls games.
[00:20:07] And it's not even about like bragging rights either.
[00:20:09] But like when I play a Souls game for me, these are the very few games
[00:20:16] because Jala like you.
[00:20:18] I actually I don't normally like open world games.
[00:20:22] Matter of fact, I typically hate an open world game
[00:20:26] just because I feel like half the time I get bored.
[00:20:28] I'll play the game for like however long and I try to play it my way.
[00:20:33] And that's the games like we will let you pretend to play it your way.
[00:20:38] This might be a hot take, but I fucking hate Assassin's Creed games.
[00:20:41] Absolutely hate them.
[00:20:42] I think they're the dumbest fucking games ever because they give you this guys,
[00:20:46] especially the new ones where they're like, hey, check out this really fucking cool
[00:20:49] Witcher combat and you're like, yeah, this is fucking cool.
[00:20:51] And then they're like, yeah, but don't do that.
[00:20:53] Don't don't fucking do that.
[00:20:54] Oh, yeah.
[00:20:55] Just sneak around or else you're fucked.
[00:20:57] And it's like, but I like the way.
[00:20:59] No, shut the fuck up.
[00:21:00] Just do the do the stealth.
[00:21:02] Just do that.
[00:21:02] So like I don't like that shit.
[00:21:04] So like when it comes to the Dark Souls games and like Bloodborne and
[00:21:09] Elden Ring and all these other things, these are the very few games that I
[00:21:13] actually feel like I can play the way that I want to play.
[00:21:17] I mean, you could stealth, I guess, if you really wanted to,
[00:21:21] but that's not really the thing.
[00:21:23] But I guess the point I'm getting at is that
[00:21:26] I explore every fucking nook and cranny of these games.
[00:21:29] Normally I don't.
[00:21:31] I don't give a fuck about a side quest even.
[00:21:33] I don't care about side quests.
[00:21:35] I'd leave them out.
[00:21:35] I'm like main line and the cool thing with like, especially like Elden Ring,
[00:21:40] there is not really.
[00:21:43] And a main line in front of your face.
[00:21:45] It's not like, hey, you got to go do this.
[00:21:47] It's just kind of like check this shit out.
[00:21:49] You want to go over there? Go over there.
[00:21:51] We're over there.
[00:21:52] Check that out.
[00:21:53] Hey, I look over here.
[00:21:54] Yeah, go look at that guy and come back when you get your ass
[00:21:57] handed to you and then have a look over in that thing.
[00:22:00] Open up that chest and get warped into fucking hell.
[00:22:04] Right.
[00:22:05] I've got the same approach to like, I well, no, maybe I guess it depends
[00:22:10] on the game because like in an open world game, like say,
[00:22:13] the Xenoblade Chronicles one or two, I've never beaten three
[00:22:17] because I got really bored with that one.
[00:22:19] We both agree on something with that one.
[00:22:21] Hey, yeah, it's not a good game.
[00:22:24] We're going to a good game.
[00:22:25] We'll get to that another time.
[00:22:28] Yeah, Xenoblade, they're totally open world.
[00:22:31] I want to explore it, but then at the same time, I always like,
[00:22:34] dude, like this story is actually kind of got me intrigued.
[00:22:37] I kind of want to just keep going with that or like if I do any
[00:22:41] side shit and wander off the beaten path, it's to do like
[00:22:44] Xenoblade one has this thing called the collectopedia
[00:22:48] and you're just constantly collecting shit to fill up different columns
[00:22:52] and get cool rewards, whether it's like cool gear or like
[00:22:56] a jam or a skill jam.
[00:22:59] I forgot what the fuck they're called.
[00:23:01] Xenoblade two has this skill tree.
[00:23:05] You fill up for each different blade
[00:23:06] or if you kill so many enemies, you know, new skill in this direction
[00:23:09] and shit like that.
[00:23:10] But sometimes I'll wander off and complete things like that.
[00:23:13] But for those games, I tend to just stay right through the storyline
[00:23:17] and go through the game, but not Grand Theft Auto.
[00:23:21] Boy, I've never beaten a Grand Theft Auto game ever.
[00:23:23] I always get always I'll try to do a story mission
[00:23:27] and I'll be running down to like fucking CJ's house
[00:23:31] or whoever the fuck.
[00:23:32] And then I'll see like like an ice cream truck or a fucking cop car
[00:23:36] and I'll be like, well, fuck whatever I was doing
[00:23:40] and I'll all attempt to steal it and get shot and die.
[00:23:43] And then it'll just be this continuous loop of me spawning
[00:23:45] and then goofing around and dying.
[00:23:47] And yeah, it's just too good.
[00:23:50] Well, Grand Theft Auto five.
[00:23:52] That was it because that one actually had like a cohesive story
[00:23:55] that I actually wanted to see through to the end.
[00:23:58] Well, so there's a couple of things there.
[00:24:01] So first off about Dark Souls, all of my experience
[00:24:04] with Souls games was encapsulated in 20 hours
[00:24:07] that I put into the game.
[00:24:08] Dark Souls won over like one weekend.
[00:24:11] And then I got promptly deeply burned out
[00:24:13] because I take care of my elderly disabled parents
[00:24:16] and I have a lot of responsibilities
[00:24:18] and I'm very tired all the time.
[00:24:21] Dark Souls for some people is meditative.
[00:24:23] It's not for me.
[00:24:24] I need something that's not twitchy when I go down
[00:24:26] to kind of chill out before I go to sleep.
[00:24:29] So that's not what I play,
[00:24:31] but there was one shining weekend when I was able to do this.
[00:24:34] So I was playing a good chunk of just Dark Souls, the original.
[00:24:37] Anyway, when I was going through that, it was funny
[00:24:40] because when I was talking to people
[00:24:41] in that church that's like right in the beginning,
[00:24:44] I forget the name of the church.
[00:24:45] But anyway, there's like a church you go into it
[00:24:47] and then like there's a bunch of knights and stuff
[00:24:51] if you go head on, but you can go around the side
[00:24:54] and like for me, the way that I play that game
[00:24:57] is the way that I play pretty much every game.
[00:24:58] I play it the way that I would actually live my real life.
[00:25:01] And so like I'm not like about to go head first
[00:25:04] into that fucking church.
[00:25:05] There's no way I'm gonna go around the side
[00:25:07] and look around before I go up and approach the thing.
[00:25:11] So inside the church, there's all those knights
[00:25:13] in that front area.
[00:25:15] And then on the backside, if you go in the side door,
[00:25:18] you can see upstairs there's a mage
[00:25:20] with a bunch of like minion people up there.
[00:25:22] And what I was able to do is not trigger the knights,
[00:25:27] kill the mage guy up at the top
[00:25:29] before his little guys triggered and all swarmed me
[00:25:33] and then was able to pick off all the knights one by one.
[00:25:36] And so that part was super easy for me.
[00:25:38] But then everybody else that I knew had just been like,
[00:25:41] oh, I'm just gonna go right through the front of the thing.
[00:25:43] And then they got their ass handed to them
[00:25:45] by all of the knights that are in there.
[00:25:47] But you know, I also consider like
[00:25:51] this is teasing for most people,
[00:25:54] but like there's also the wounded demon
[00:25:56] or whatever that's inside of a room.
[00:25:58] And I ran across the room to the other side
[00:26:01] through the door and then I was like,
[00:26:03] I'm just gonna take pot shots at you from this doorway
[00:26:06] and then get out of the way when you shoot shit at me
[00:26:09] because you're big and stupid
[00:26:10] and you can't get through the door.
[00:26:12] That's your fault.
[00:26:13] So like, you know.
[00:26:15] Yeah, but I mean like if it's something
[00:26:18] that I have to fight head on, that's fine.
[00:26:19] But like I'm also gonna use the terrain
[00:26:22] or whatever to my advantage.
[00:26:23] If they can't get up to where I'm at,
[00:26:25] that's their fault not mine.
[00:26:26] The cool thing about the Souls games
[00:26:27] and something that I disagree with,
[00:26:29] I disagree with people calling out stuff like cheesing
[00:26:32] because if it's in the fucking game,
[00:26:35] if it's in the fucking game,
[00:26:36] if it can be done, if they patch it out,
[00:26:38] all right, whatever.
[00:26:39] But like fucking you're stupid
[00:26:42] because you left it in there for me to exploit.
[00:26:45] So yeah, I fully like dude,
[00:26:48] I'll be fucking real honest with you.
[00:26:52] I cheesed so many bosses in Sekiro
[00:26:55] because that game is fucking impossible.
[00:26:58] Like I lured so many things off cliffs
[00:27:01] and was just like...
[00:27:04] Well, if you're dumb enough to fall off the cliff,
[00:27:06] that's your fault not mine.
[00:27:08] Exactly dude.
[00:27:09] For real but so...
[00:27:12] What boss was it?
[00:27:14] In Sekiro?
[00:27:15] No, I'm trying to think there's one boss,
[00:27:17] it's like at the beginning of Dark Souls 1, I'm pretty sure.
[00:27:20] It's like the Capra Demon or the Libra Demon
[00:27:22] or some shit like that.
[00:27:23] That's like the very first one
[00:27:24] that you have to like die to, right?
[00:27:27] Yeah.
[00:27:27] The one that's in that really tiny arena, that's Capra.
[00:27:31] There was...
[00:27:32] And then you can go like on this bridge
[00:27:34] and you know, you climb up and you go on this bridge
[00:27:37] and there's this one...
[00:27:38] It's the first guy.
[00:27:39] Yeah, there's this one spot where you can like
[00:27:40] kind of almost cheese it where he'll jump off
[00:27:43] like he'll jump at you to try to attack you
[00:27:44] but then he'll jump off the fucking gap and fucking die.
[00:27:47] Did you do that?
[00:27:48] I do that every single time.
[00:27:50] I give a shit man.
[00:27:51] Oh, it's cheese and you didn't actually beat him.
[00:27:54] He killed himself.
[00:27:55] I feel like fuck you, it's in the game.
[00:27:56] Why would they put that there then?
[00:27:58] Well, and if you're playing D&D,
[00:28:00] no one says that's cheap, you didn't do it right.
[00:28:03] No, because you were smart.
[00:28:05] You used your head, good job in a D&D game.
[00:28:08] You used the mechanics,
[00:28:09] so you use like what they put in there like yeah.
[00:28:12] This is totally not really on the topic of this
[00:28:14] but on the topic of like Elden Ring especially.
[00:28:18] I've had people criticize me
[00:28:20] about using the fucking spirit ashes to summon.
[00:28:23] They're like, are you gonna fucking summon for this?
[00:28:25] I'm like, yeah, I can't fucking beat Melania by myself
[00:28:28] if you edit your goddamn mind.
[00:28:30] There's no fucking way.
[00:28:31] I summoned a spirit ash.
[00:28:33] I fucking summoned a person from the real world
[00:28:37] to be like, can you help me please?
[00:28:39] The real world?
[00:28:40] Right.
[00:28:41] You summon Joe Pesci to come help you out?
[00:28:43] Hey, I come here to help you beat this fucking boss.
[00:28:45] You wanna buy the pepperoni?
[00:28:46] I'm too wild.
[00:28:47] Wouldn't it be fucking wild if Joe Pesci
[00:28:49] was actually let me solo her?
[00:28:51] Imagine Joe Pesci just had him like,
[00:28:53] this is fucking stupid, fucking Melania.
[00:28:56] What the fuck is this shit?
[00:28:58] Yeah, that'd be really really cool.
[00:29:00] I want the let me solo her to be Tim Walls.
[00:29:04] That would be so funny.
[00:29:06] That would be very good.
[00:29:08] Anyway.
[00:29:09] Oh, is that that?
[00:29:09] That's the Vice President candidate for Harris.
[00:29:14] OK, that would be something.
[00:29:15] At first I was like, wait, who's this guy?
[00:29:17] Tim Walls is the Vice President candidate.
[00:29:19] He's the guy that was addicted to Dreamcast.
[00:29:20] Yeah, he was addicted to Crazy Toxy.
[00:29:23] So wouldn't it be great if he's secretly still deeply
[00:29:25] entrenched in video games and he's like somebody real?
[00:29:29] Not to get political or anything,
[00:29:31] but I sincerely hope that this guy becomes
[00:29:33] the Vice President so that we actually have somebody
[00:29:35] that we all know in the gaming community
[00:29:37] is a fucking gamer that is like part of US politics
[00:29:41] in a high up position.
[00:29:43] That's just like, yeah, so I made some decisions today
[00:29:45] about like the fucking war and shit.
[00:29:47] But then also I had a really good run
[00:29:50] and fucking crazy taxi.
[00:29:53] Right.
[00:29:54] Took so many motherfuckers to Pizza Hut, bro.
[00:29:56] It's insane.
[00:29:59] Well, circling back, though, to like the open world stuff.
[00:30:03] So here's my problem with open worlds.
[00:30:04] You give me all these things to look at
[00:30:06] and all these things to go do.
[00:30:07] And then you want me to do this really boring main quest
[00:30:11] that's never as interesting as like doing
[00:30:13] all the random shit that never ends.
[00:30:15] It's like, no, I'd rather be like off over there.
[00:30:19] Like in Morrowind, I played in Argonian
[00:30:21] because all of the other races look like total ass
[00:30:24] because like all of the character models look terrible.
[00:30:27] They look like they're fucking,
[00:30:29] they're made of butter and they were melted in a microwave.
[00:30:31] Well, so I would just like go underwater
[00:30:33] and then I found all these shipwrecks and shit.
[00:30:35] So I would go under there and there would be like ghosts
[00:30:37] and stuff and like I'm like underwater as those guys.
[00:30:41] Yeah, yeah, dude.
[00:30:42] That's like part of the charm.
[00:30:43] That's a part of their life.
[00:30:44] And they're like in me to the seas.
[00:30:45] They're on my whole time.
[00:30:46] Yeah, dude, Argonians the way to go.
[00:30:48] They'll let anybody tell you different.
[00:30:51] I just didn't pick one because I was like,
[00:30:52] that's a lizard person.
[00:30:54] That's a goddamn lizard person.
[00:30:55] That's Obama.
[00:30:56] That's that's a there's my real.
[00:30:58] There's my real true lizard,
[00:31:00] favorite lizard right there.
[00:31:02] Argonians.
[00:31:02] Oh, she's Obama.
[00:31:05] Obama is my favorite lizard person on this planet.
[00:31:11] Oh man.
[00:31:13] Along with Joe Pesci.
[00:31:17] Joe Pesci is very reptilian.
[00:31:19] He's got some pretty reptilian traits.
[00:31:22] You never see him in the cold.
[00:31:23] Well, no, no, home alone.
[00:31:25] That's stupid.
[00:31:26] Moving on.
[00:31:27] It was fake.
[00:31:28] It's just fake cold.
[00:31:32] So really good, really good example for open world games
[00:31:36] that I just love fucking around in would be like fallout.
[00:31:40] Like it'll take me so long to complete the story
[00:31:43] and fall out because I'll be off just.
[00:31:45] I know.
[00:31:45] All like I'll just point myself in a direction
[00:31:47] and like hold forward and see where the fuck I go.
[00:31:50] And you're bound to come across something cool,
[00:31:52] whether it's like the UFO that's in the mountains
[00:31:56] in like the third game or whatever,
[00:31:58] or like you come across a vault with some cool,
[00:32:00] weird hidden backstory.
[00:32:02] Isn't the UFO isn't that like the trigger for that DLC?
[00:32:05] Mothership Zeta or whatever it's called.
[00:32:07] Yeah, it was in there before that too.
[00:32:09] Like they made that.
[00:32:10] It was. Yeah.
[00:32:11] You get I think all you got was like a ray gun
[00:32:14] and some ammo for and there'd be like a dead alien body there.
[00:32:17] But after they came out with the DLC,
[00:32:19] they made that the trigger.
[00:32:20] You said a ray gun
[00:32:21] and I just was thinking of the Olympics and oh my god.
[00:32:27] I'm sorry.
[00:32:28] What?
[00:32:28] Like, you know, like I I need someone to explain this to me
[00:32:32] because I don't know is her name is a real name ray gun or is that
[00:32:35] like her fucking name is Rachel something with gun
[00:32:38] in the last name likes I don't I don't remember the exact name.
[00:32:42] But like it's it's actually like parts of her first
[00:32:44] and last name made into ray gun.
[00:32:47] So it's Rachel Gunn G.
[00:32:49] You and and Rachel Gunn.
[00:32:53] That old ray gun.
[00:32:55] Well, anyway.
[00:32:57] Well, so so kind of shifting over to a very large RPG
[00:33:02] that's not open world, but it feels almost open world.
[00:33:05] Baldur's Gate three. Yes.
[00:33:07] So let me tell you the difference
[00:33:09] between myself and my husband and how we play this game.
[00:33:13] So I run around and I have to go through everything.
[00:33:16] I have to look at everything.
[00:33:17] I have to explore everything
[00:33:18] and pick up every item and sell it.
[00:33:20] Every single item and sell it does not matter.
[00:33:23] All of that stuff, because like I'm a complete klepto
[00:33:27] when it comes to stuff in Elder Scrolls,
[00:33:29] like I will sit there in plain sight, crouch down in front
[00:33:33] of a dude like an NPC who's standing there
[00:33:36] and I'm going to wait until like that little sneak bar is such
[00:33:39] that I can steal that one blueberry
[00:33:41] because I'm going to fucking steal that blueberry
[00:33:43] and I'm going to sit there until I get it.
[00:33:45] And that's an elder elder scroll.
[00:33:48] So like when it comes to Baldur's Gate,
[00:33:50] I'm the same way.
[00:33:51] Like I have to pick up everything, everything that I can pick up.
[00:33:54] And I go everywhere and I explore everything
[00:33:56] before I do all the main quests.
[00:33:58] Meanwhile, my husband decides that he's going to make
[00:34:01] Gorm the Gormless a half a halfling barbarian
[00:34:04] and he's going to kill all the companions
[00:34:06] and he's going to do the entire thing by himself
[00:34:10] and do the entire game solo.
[00:34:12] So that's what he's doing
[00:34:15] and just mainlining it.
[00:34:16] The whole thing just skipping over everything.
[00:34:19] And we are doing individual quests, right?
[00:34:23] I'm doing mine.
[00:34:24] He's doing his solos.
[00:34:25] But then we're also playing a co-op campaign
[00:34:28] and this is the funniest shit.
[00:34:30] When I'm running around and picking up all the stuff
[00:34:32] instead of helping me so it goes faster,
[00:34:34] he puts his character and whatever NPC he's controlling
[00:34:39] and puts them to sit into chairs
[00:34:41] like they're like, you know, in the husband chair
[00:34:44] waiting for me to finish shopping or something.
[00:34:45] Although he's the one who shops more than I do.
[00:34:50] So he's just sitting his little character in a chair
[00:34:52] waiting for me to be done.
[00:34:57] My friend Joey is like that too,
[00:34:59] where he has to pick up fucking everything and go sell it.
[00:35:02] But no, sir, I just love being a big fucking stupid goof.
[00:35:06] Like all in like at the end of like every character's turn
[00:35:10] I'll always make sure I have them use their extra action
[00:35:13] to like to shove everybody in like every fucking direction
[00:35:16] regardless of if there's a cliff or anything else
[00:35:19] they can fall into or not just because like, yeah,
[00:35:21] might as well do to get that extra action.
[00:35:23] Just give them a shove, get them away.
[00:35:25] Yep.
[00:35:25] I was going to say too, like,
[00:35:27] because we were talking about open world games,
[00:35:29] the other open world game that I do actually enjoy
[00:35:33] are the new Zelda games.
[00:35:35] But oh yeah, my approach to those games are...
[00:35:38] What's that?
[00:35:40] What's that thing?
[00:35:42] And then you go to that thing.
[00:35:43] And then as you're on your way to that thing,
[00:35:45] you're like, yeah, but like what's that thing then?
[00:35:46] And then you go to that thing.
[00:35:48] And then you're like, wait a second, is that a cave?
[00:35:52] I'm going in the cave.
[00:35:53] Going in the cave right now.
[00:35:54] And then you're like, holy shit,
[00:35:55] there's a chest in the cave.
[00:35:56] And then you get all excited and you open up the chest
[00:35:57] and it's like a fucking stick with a rock attached to it.
[00:35:59] And you're like, all right, yeah.
[00:36:01] And let me go back to the thing before the thing.
[00:36:03] Before the thing.
[00:36:03] Before the thing.
[00:36:04] And then you're like, oh wait,
[00:36:06] I was actually supposed to be doing something, I think.
[00:36:09] And then you open up your menu and it's just like,
[00:36:12] find Zelda and it's like...
[00:36:14] I'm not pushing it anywhere.
[00:36:16] Right.
[00:36:17] I guess I'm playing this right?
[00:36:20] Well, I played Breath of the Wild
[00:36:22] and as soon as I got the hang glider,
[00:36:23] I just started climbing everything
[00:36:25] and hang gliding off of everything.
[00:36:27] And that's about the time that I just stopped.
[00:36:29] I started climbing everything
[00:36:31] and after I was gliding around and everything,
[00:36:35] then I'm like, I'm done now.
[00:36:37] That's all I just wanted to do that.
[00:36:39] Do you ever like just look at a mountain and be like,
[00:36:42] man, I can get up that with just one bar of stamina?
[00:36:48] I think I could do it.
[00:36:49] And then also,
[00:36:50] if this isn't shit to like stay and be like,
[00:36:52] all right, let's just see if this stamina can like,
[00:36:54] and you kind of like glitch into the side of the mountain
[00:36:56] a little bit where you're not supposed to.
[00:36:57] It's like you're standing, but you're not supposed to be.
[00:37:00] And then you just let your stamina like go back up
[00:37:02] and you're like, all right, we got this.
[00:37:04] Let's go.
[00:37:05] Well, that and then circling back to Skyrim
[00:37:07] doing that with Skyrim,
[00:37:09] especially when it was still all broken in shit.
[00:37:11] With the horses.
[00:37:12] Yeah, those poor horses.
[00:37:15] The things that reminds me do with with tears of the kingdom.
[00:37:20] Back when Tommy, well, I mean, Tommy and I still talk a lot.
[00:37:22] But like back when he used to be in the show,
[00:37:24] we would just back when he was my friend.
[00:37:27] Back when he was still among us in the living.
[00:37:30] No, he we messaged each other all the time
[00:37:32] about shit we're doing in tears of the kingdom.
[00:37:35] And one of the fucking stupidest things ever
[00:37:37] is just like how we tackle puzzles
[00:37:41] or just like things we see in the world.
[00:37:44] Because like Tommy will try to find the most
[00:37:46] like like smart way of doing things.
[00:37:49] But I kind of like just like brute force my way
[00:37:53] into into stupid shit situations.
[00:37:55] Like I couldn't tell you where the fuck this was.
[00:37:59] But there was just like some chest on top of a top of like a cliff
[00:38:04] that was like further up a mountain or whatever.
[00:38:06] So I just fucking combined a stick to like a board
[00:38:10] and then like tried my damnedest to lay it against the wall
[00:38:14] so I could like run up the board, but like that still wouldn't do it.
[00:38:18] So I just crafted some stupid,
[00:38:22] badly rigged giant bridge and yeah, I don't know.
[00:38:26] I don't know if anybody else does that in tears of the kingdom or not.
[00:38:28] But I make the stupidest garbage in that game and I love it.
[00:38:32] Like getting a horse drawn carriage and gluing hot air balloon to it
[00:38:37] and then using that as your means of traversal because that's really fun.
[00:38:40] Like your horse is just like, bro, come on.
[00:38:43] I can't feel my hooves.
[00:38:46] I can't feel my hooves.
[00:38:48] The poor abused horses in every fucking game.
[00:38:52] Yeah, anybody else is approach to a fighting game,
[00:38:54] just a b b b b a a a a b b b b b b a a a x y.
[00:39:00] And then just you lose.
[00:39:02] No, unless it's soul caliber or
[00:39:05] or is different though.
[00:39:06] Right. Like there's no like you can't really button mash a soul calorie.
[00:39:10] I mean, you can.
[00:39:11] But like it's not there's it's not like combo heavy in the sense of like doing
[00:39:16] like up down left right up down left right up down left right a b a b up
[00:39:19] down left right like that doesn't do that shit is more so just like stab
[00:39:24] step backwards now stab again.
[00:39:27] Unless you're off.
[00:39:28] Fail. Just tap y and he'll go like.
[00:39:30] That's a job that's a job.
[00:39:32] Oh, that move is so good.
[00:39:34] And people that are good at soul caliber off so much.
[00:39:37] So caliber kind of almost feels like
[00:39:40] kind of the dare I say it the Dark Souls of fighting games.
[00:39:44] But hear me out dare say it.
[00:39:45] And I hear me out.
[00:39:47] OK, you'll look at it.
[00:39:48] So like it's like in Dark Souls, it's got all those.
[00:39:52] Yeah, that's true.
[00:39:53] You have all those fucking and we are at Voldo like, holy shit.
[00:39:56] Yeah, Dark Souls have like the movements all feel like heavy and deliberate.
[00:40:01] You know, when you take a swing this way or your timing,
[00:40:04] your attacks to like kind of like parry the enemy and like go this way and that
[00:40:09] same in like soul caliber because like Street Fighter.
[00:40:13] Yeah, you just sit there and just tap the fucking A and B buns back and forth
[00:40:16] and hope something cool happens unless you're fucking Daigo Umihara,
[00:40:19] which I am not.
[00:40:21] I've played like maybe a total of five hours of Street Fighter, but
[00:40:24] that's the professional.
[00:40:26] There's the question that I have, though.
[00:40:28] If you guys play a fighting game, how do you approach it?
[00:40:33] Are you playing the story mode?
[00:40:35] Are you going like versus computer and just doing like versus matches?
[00:40:39] Are you actually looking for like this?
[00:40:41] Because like, I'll be honest with you, those new model combat games,
[00:40:45] their fucking story modes are amazing.
[00:40:49] Like they are batshit crazy.
[00:40:51] It's like watching a fucking movie and then you're just like sitting there
[00:40:56] like fucking amazing.
[00:40:57] And then it's like right and you're like, oh, fuck, oh, fuck.
[00:41:01] Try to get your fucking controller ready.
[00:41:02] And you're like, I was into the fucking Johnny Cade all your
[00:41:05] sex with a fucking Shaman monk or something.
[00:41:08] I don't know.
[00:41:09] Yeah, like I've always wanted to get into like the newer mortal
[00:41:13] combats, but my most of my mortal combat time was on one and two
[00:41:17] long, long, long time ago.
[00:41:18] I was more of a street fighter, King of Fighters person.
[00:41:22] Street fighters good.
[00:41:23] And one of my favorites.
[00:41:25] Played six.
[00:41:26] Yeah, I have six.
[00:41:27] Six is good. Six is really good.
[00:41:30] Six is really good.
[00:41:30] I don't have as much time on that because again, it's like twitchy,
[00:41:33] twitchy stuff that I'm not playing a whole lot of because of
[00:41:36] like reasons the time that I have to play video games and stuff.
[00:41:40] But anyway, so usually with those games, like at this point,
[00:41:44] I'm so ingrained with all of the movesets and stuff to where
[00:41:47] I'm fairly well familiar with most of the characters in those series.
[00:41:51] So when there are new characters or if I'm playing against a person,
[00:41:55] I usually try to hang back and see how they play or what they're doing,
[00:41:59] you know, what their skill level is or whatever.
[00:42:01] But I actually don't prefer to fight people, partially because like
[00:42:05] I've had some shitty boyfriends in the past who would be really,
[00:42:09] really competitive and like crappy and like, you know, doing the whole
[00:42:12] dude bro, let me dump on everybody else who's playing video games with me
[00:42:16] kind of thing and like really turned me off to wanting to play competitively
[00:42:21] against other people.
[00:42:23] But I used to play my one, my absolute favorite fighting game
[00:42:27] is Capcom versus S&K2.
[00:42:29] And that one, I'm so excited that it's going to be on that collection
[00:42:33] that's coming out next year.
[00:42:35] So that'll be exciting.
[00:42:37] The Capcom fighting collection too, I believe it is.
[00:42:40] Oh my God.
[00:42:41] Powerstone.
[00:42:42] I know it's also on that same collection.
[00:42:45] Out of here.
[00:42:46] What the fuck is happening?
[00:42:48] Like we're finally getting a Powerstone game outside of the Dreamcast.
[00:42:52] I know it's like all these games I didn't think like I didn't think
[00:42:55] Capcom versus S&K2 would ever be brought back out.
[00:42:58] OK, cool.
[00:43:00] You know, but yeah, like in that game though,
[00:43:02] you can pick up to three characters and you can assign a point ratio.
[00:43:06] So you have a total of four points among three characters.
[00:43:09] And then one of them can be like a two pointer with two one
[00:43:12] pointers or one four point character, however you want to divvy it up.
[00:43:15] And you can pick from Street Fighter in Capcom or
[00:43:19] King of Fighters characters and anyway, like the way that the
[00:43:25] toggling between your characters works is kind of more like a King of Fighters
[00:43:29] where like you just select the order they appear in, but it's not
[00:43:31] like Marvel versus Capcom to where you can tag them in
[00:43:35] and you can't switch out or anything like that, which means
[00:43:39] that it's really like less, way less busy because like
[00:43:43] Marvel first Capcom to is very fun.
[00:43:46] But in that came around around the same time.
[00:43:49] It's very fun.
[00:43:50] But like it's amazing, but it's busy.
[00:43:52] It's very busy.
[00:43:54] And then to like they I understand the reason why,
[00:43:58] because they had so many characters, but like they made all the movesets
[00:44:01] essentially work the same in that game.
[00:44:03] And then it's like, oh, the people who've been playing for a long time,
[00:44:06] like their reflexes no longer work in that game, you know?
[00:44:09] Because it's, you know, the simplified version or whatever where you can just
[00:44:12] easily pull off this triple super or whatever.
[00:44:16] But anyway, I used to play where I would play with another person
[00:44:20] and then we would each pick, you know, two points worth of character,
[00:44:23] whatever that would be, like two one pointers or a two point character or
[00:44:27] whatnot. And then we just take turns who's going first
[00:44:30] and going through fighting against the computer and just constantly turning up
[00:44:34] the AI intelligence level till we were on like Max.
[00:44:38] And when I was doing this on my Dreamcast, like I developed super,
[00:44:42] super player callus on my thumb because that that fucking D-pad was terrible.
[00:44:47] It was so terrible and not not conducive to fighting games whatsoever.
[00:44:52] But anyway, like I'm the fighting game person who doesn't like to play
[00:44:56] against people. I prefer to fight against computers or tag teaming.
[00:45:01] Agreed. Yeah.
[00:45:03] Agreed. Like any any experience I've had with a fighting game online
[00:45:08] has just been I mean, sometimes it's all right.
[00:45:11] Like sometimes I'll win, but more often than that,
[00:45:14] I'll get my ass handed to me by someone who just wants to cheat.
[00:45:17] Well, not cheat. Sorry.
[00:45:18] What's the cheese? The same move over and over and over like
[00:45:21] when when I first got Soul Calibur 4,
[00:45:25] they have always been a Soul Calibur fan.
[00:45:26] I played the shit out of two and three and then four came out
[00:45:30] and they were like, bro, it's got online now.
[00:45:32] You can play online.
[00:45:33] And I was like, dude, I'm I think I'm really good at this game.
[00:45:36] I think I could probably beat everybody online and people would just
[00:45:40] always pick fucking Valdo and crab walk and do his little like break
[00:45:44] the NC moves and annihilate my health or people would just be total dicks
[00:45:48] and spam the same move or like knock me off the edge or same with like
[00:45:53] with like Smash Bros. Ultimate.
[00:45:55] I tried to get good at that game, but like everybody just picks
[00:45:59] the same fucking characters like everybody was either Ganondorf
[00:46:02] or fucking Roy or some other.
[00:46:05] Well, I fuck shit up with Ganondorf.
[00:46:07] So that's yeah, man. That's true.
[00:46:10] And I maybe it's just me, though, because like when I play
[00:46:16] like any game where you can pick a different character,
[00:46:18] like whether it's a MOBA or like a fighting game, something like that.
[00:46:21] Like I tend to want to pick the characters
[00:46:24] that aren't used as often as others.
[00:46:27] Like everybody, like if you play Garoo, Mark of the Wolves or Garo,
[00:46:30] have you want to say it?
[00:46:31] Everybody is going to pick fucking Terry Bogart or something
[00:46:33] or like if you go play Smash Bros. Ultimate, everybody's going to want
[00:46:37] Ganondorf, but I I go for oh, what is his name?
[00:46:41] Pick one of the 58 fucking characters they pulled from Fire Emblem
[00:46:44] that all control the same.
[00:46:46] I didn't pick any of them, dude.
[00:46:47] I went Diddy Kong, Diddy Kong's my man and smash.
[00:46:50] Diddy Kong's good shit.
[00:46:51] Yeah. Or like or even in fuckable say, Yu-Gi-Oh,
[00:46:54] like there's this big giant like meta game to like which decks
[00:46:59] like which decks are the best competitively.
[00:47:01] And I always I don't fucking I ignore all of that.
[00:47:03] I just pick the decks that look fun that nobody uses.
[00:47:06] Then I get my ass handed to me, but it's still fun.
[00:47:09] Like I don't I hate using the same characters as everybody else, man.
[00:47:13] What about you guys?
[00:47:15] So how do you guys go about that?
[00:47:16] You guys pick the ones that are popular or do you just?
[00:47:19] Well, see like in Street Fighter, my favorite is Cami.
[00:47:22] So that's how I usually play.
[00:47:24] But it's just because I like the way that her moves are.
[00:47:27] Yeah. So and it just kind of depends.
[00:47:29] Like I also have a tendency of liking all the Muay Thai characters
[00:47:32] and that works because I am also taking Muay Thai.
[00:47:37] So that's pretty cool.
[00:47:38] But like, of course, me taking Muay Thai came like way later
[00:47:41] after years of playing Muay Thai characters in video games.
[00:47:46] So there's there's a character in King of Fighters
[00:47:50] that I can't I can't think of his name.
[00:47:52] Oh, she was a lot.
[00:47:53] Yes. Yes. With like the red headband.
[00:47:55] He's got the brown spiky hair.
[00:47:57] Yeah, Joe, love that character.
[00:47:59] Oh, my God. Yes. He's so good.
[00:48:01] So like I sometimes I would rock and Capcom versus S&K to the
[00:48:06] like Muay Thai fighters.
[00:48:08] So I would have like Sagat and Joe and King from King of Fighters.
[00:48:12] King is one of my King is one of my main King and Cami.
[00:48:16] So in that game.
[00:48:17] Hell yeah.
[00:48:18] What's what was usually your team in like more
[00:48:22] I almost said mortal
[00:48:23] more versus Capcom versus Capcom to
[00:48:29] was your your three person team.
[00:48:31] Cami would pop up again.
[00:48:34] Who the hell else did I use in that game?
[00:48:36] I've got it's Cami's like good shit.
[00:48:41] I have to think about it.
[00:48:43] Cami, Cami definitely if Cami's in the game, I've got her on my team.
[00:48:46] But I don't know.
[00:48:49] Probably Cami's redesign in Street Fighter
[00:48:51] six is so fucking good.
[00:48:53] It's great.
[00:48:54] It's great to see I do Ice Man every single time.
[00:48:58] Oh, Ice Man is so cheesy because of his 100 percent block on those fireballs.
[00:49:02] Anyway, but like everybody would use that like way to an extreme here.
[00:49:06] Iceman, are you talking about killer instinct?
[00:49:09] No, no, it's glaciers.
[00:49:11] MBC two.
[00:49:12] Yeah, Marvel versus Capcom two.
[00:49:14] I would do Ice Man.
[00:49:17] What is his name?
[00:49:19] You're going to tell me.
[00:49:20] Cyclops sent me into space.
[00:49:23] The samurai guy who could like change elements on his sword or whatever.
[00:49:27] Silver samurai.
[00:49:29] I think that's what his name was.
[00:49:30] Yeah, and the cactus guy, the big bouncy guy.
[00:49:34] Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yes.
[00:49:36] I would I would very often play Trombone Trombone and Cami.
[00:49:41] Sometimes Servbot also.
[00:49:42] And then I just make it like lots of Mega Man people.
[00:49:45] Servbot is great.
[00:49:47] Nobody can hit Servbot because he's so small.
[00:49:50] On the topic of killer instinct, the holy ship.
[00:49:53] I got so fucking good with Riptor.
[00:49:56] I the killer instinct reboot is like my probably my favorite fighting game ever.
[00:50:02] I have to be honest.
[00:50:03] I own that thing and I barely touched it.
[00:50:05] And I have a whole thing like all the go play.
[00:50:08] They have a rogue like single player mode that I love so fucking much.
[00:50:11] What? Yeah. Yeah.
[00:50:12] Fuck it. Yeah, dude.
[00:50:14] It's the oh, I don't know what the fuck the name of it is,
[00:50:18] but it's where like the big bad guy idol.
[00:50:21] It's like, oh, he's coming like in like three three hours
[00:50:25] whenever he's coming to have to go fight his like minions and shit around the world.
[00:50:29] Wreck up as much power as you can and keep your party alive.
[00:50:33] You have like a party of like three characters and you fight and stuff.
[00:50:36] And there's cool like power ups and shit.
[00:50:38] Oh my god.
[00:50:39] I'm going to try that out.
[00:50:41] Have have either of you played Hellblade to know I'm not.
[00:50:46] You know what my approach to Hellblade to was?
[00:50:49] Holding up on the control stick.
[00:50:52] Yeah. And run because it was a fucking walking simulator.
[00:50:57] And then when I wasn't doing that,
[00:50:59] I was pretty much just mashing X and hitting a to dodge.
[00:51:04] That game had some problems for me.
[00:51:08] I thought the visuals were incredible
[00:51:11] and the storytelling was pretty cool, but like, I don't know.
[00:51:17] How do you play horror games or do you play horror games?
[00:51:21] I fucking love the horror game guy.
[00:51:24] He's he's the man, the horror man.
[00:51:27] So like, say for example,
[00:51:28] I was streaming the beginning of Amnesia, the first Amnesia at one point.
[00:51:34] And it was very funny because I was like running towards the critter
[00:51:37] as soon as the critter appeared and like, oh, yes, please eviscerate me.
[00:51:40] But then like at the beginning, you know, you're not supposed to.
[00:51:42] Yes, daddy.
[00:51:43] Like it was just I just wanted to see.
[00:51:46] Like I just wanted to see what the hell happened.
[00:51:48] I wanted to see the death animation.
[00:51:50] So anyway, I was like, come on, fight me, fight me.
[00:51:53] Where are you going? Where are you going?
[00:51:56] And anyway, at the beginning of that game,
[00:52:00] you're not supposed to be able to encounter the monster.
[00:52:02] He's supposed to just be around to scare the shit out of you.
[00:52:04] Right. So like, you know, it goes away.
[00:52:06] So I'm like, he left.
[00:52:08] I feel so chipped.
[00:52:10] Like, what is this?
[00:52:11] You know, and I was so upset.
[00:52:12] But then of course later on, then you actually can, you know,
[00:52:17] come across him and then he kills you.
[00:52:18] And I'm like, oh, OK, he's real.
[00:52:20] Sometimes I do like like those types of horror games.
[00:52:23] Yeah. Yeah.
[00:52:24] I do like to get the, I guess, the jump scare animation out of the way.
[00:52:28] Just be like, what am I fucking with here?
[00:52:30] Let's see what this is.
[00:52:31] If it's just like all of a sudden there's a thing grabbing your screen
[00:52:34] and screaming at you and it's like, all right, I got this.
[00:52:37] The one that I could never get used to was the fucking jump scares in PT with Lisa.
[00:52:45] Yeah, I never got used to it.
[00:52:47] Never ever, ever got used to that shit.
[00:52:49] Jump scares don't work.
[00:52:51] It was one of the worst.
[00:52:53] No. Have you played the Mortuary Assistant?
[00:52:56] I have not played Mortuary Assistant.
[00:52:58] I've watched somebody else play it, though.
[00:53:00] I've watched somebody else play that on screen.
[00:53:02] I would like you to play that game.
[00:53:04] I would. I would love because I also like I'll react to a jump scare,
[00:53:10] but not I won't get a jump.
[00:53:11] I'll just be like, Jesus, God, there.
[00:53:14] But for me to actually physically be like, fuck and like pull away or do anything
[00:53:19] like that, if there's only been a few that I can remember.
[00:53:24] Oh, one of those was pretty much every second of Resident Evil 7 and VR.
[00:53:28] But that was like the first VR thing that I did.
[00:53:30] And I was just like, I guess I'm just going to fucking traumatize
[00:53:33] myself real quick here.
[00:53:35] But then the Mortuary Assistant.
[00:53:39] Fucked my shit up.
[00:53:40] And it's not even like it's not about the boogity, boogity, boo, loud booming noises.
[00:53:46] It's like you see something out of the corner of your eye and you're like,
[00:53:49] wait, what the fuck was that?
[00:53:51] And then you're like looking out the window because you're like,
[00:53:54] could have sworn I just seen something.
[00:53:55] And then you turn back around and you're like,
[00:53:57] you just see hands like on top of like a cabinet.
[00:54:00] It's more about like just that, you know, that feeling when like
[00:54:04] you realize like, oh, fuck, I left the baby in the truck
[00:54:08] while I was at the mall for like four and a half hours.
[00:54:10] You know, like, you know that feeling when like you just get the cold sweats
[00:54:13] and you're like, yeah, that's what Mortuary Assistant feels like.
[00:54:17] But it's like combined with a jump scare and it's it's very effective.
[00:54:22] Oh, so I there was a point where I was back when I still had a functional PC.
[00:54:27] I was streaming Moons of Madness, which that was very funny to play because like, OK,
[00:54:33] in any game, if you give me anything to look at in the environment,
[00:54:36] I'm looking around at everything like, say, for example, in I think it's Half Life 2
[00:54:40] where you've got like the barnacles and stuff, right?
[00:54:42] But then there's like bottles of bleach, but they're just there.
[00:54:45] You can't do anything with them.
[00:54:46] But I was like, can I feed them to the barnacles
[00:54:48] that and then kill them with the bleach?
[00:54:50] That would be so cool.
[00:54:52] But then like they did it just leads me ultimately to feel depressed
[00:54:55] and sad that they didn't put that in there.
[00:54:58] I'm like, but it's they put the bleach bottle.
[00:55:00] They should have made you able to kill the barnacles with things with bleach.
[00:55:04] With bleach, it would be great.
[00:55:06] So and then in Moons of Madness,
[00:55:10] so like I'm looking around because you're on like a space
[00:55:13] space station on Mars or whatever.
[00:55:15] And you know, weird shits happening and you got that love crafty
[00:55:18] and things and whatever.
[00:55:20] But like I'm walking around and then I'm like,
[00:55:22] there's an exercise bike, but not only that, but like they point
[00:55:25] a shining spotlight on this exercise bike that's in like our break room.
[00:55:29] And I'm like, I want to get on the exercise bike.
[00:55:31] You know, like in Resident Evil 6, there's the part in like there
[00:55:36] there's a part in the city where you're playing peers and Chris
[00:55:38] and both of them can go down the slide on their belly
[00:55:42] and then like get on the little rocking horse thing that looks like
[00:55:47] I do too. And it looks like Chris is getting a blow job from a panda.
[00:55:52] Yeah. So that's the thing that they added in there.
[00:55:54] But they didn't they didn't do that in Moons of Madness.
[00:55:57] And I was so sad.
[00:56:00] And what Chris is getting a blow job from a pair.
[00:56:02] What is that?
[00:56:03] There's a in that in that part where you can have peers go down the slide
[00:56:07] on his belly in the little little Children's Park.
[00:56:11] You can have Chris go over to the little panda rocking horse thing.
[00:56:16] And the face is pointed right at the crotch.
[00:56:19] And so it looks like he's rocking back and forth with this panda,
[00:56:22] sucking him off. So.
[00:56:23] So was this a theme with this game?
[00:56:26] Because remember how like the six looked like a draft
[00:56:30] and sucked off by a dude. Yes.
[00:56:33] So I'm serious.
[00:56:35] That like if you're listening to this, you're like, you guys are fucking crazy.
[00:56:38] I'm telling you right now, you go look at the six and Resident Evil 6.
[00:56:42] That's a goddamn draft man standing upright
[00:56:47] cock a blaze with.
[00:56:49] And he's like fucking just smothering a dude.
[00:56:52] Let me tell you about the coffee, the coffee maker in Madness.
[00:56:58] I was so upset they had a coffee maker and you had a cup and you can make cups
[00:57:02] of coffee and I'm like, oh, can I get fucked up on coffee?
[00:57:04] Because I'm like, let me slam back like eight cups of coffee.
[00:57:08] Does it fuck up?
[00:57:09] Does that fuck you up?
[00:57:10] And like I tried and it wouldn't fuck.
[00:57:12] I was so upset.
[00:57:13] I'm like, come on, if you made me able to drink this coffee,
[00:57:15] you should have like something happen if you drink too much coffee.
[00:57:19] Like I'm just saying, especially since this is a horror game.
[00:57:22] Like that would be so good, but they didn't.
[00:57:24] Anyway, there's like a jump scare part in there.
[00:57:27] I was I was playing this game.
[00:57:29] I had headphones on and so my husband is sitting behind me
[00:57:32] and he's watching the screen.
[00:57:34] He does not hear anything because I have the headphones
[00:57:36] and I'm getting into this part and I'm like, oh, there's a jumpscare up here.
[00:57:40] And then as soon as we get to the jumpscare that I knew was there,
[00:57:43] then like I look at the little screen and he's just like, oh,
[00:57:47] and he just jumps.
[00:57:48] And I think I have a clip of it somewhere where he's jumping.
[00:57:50] I'm like, you can't even fucking hear the game.
[00:57:52] What is wrong with you?
[00:57:54] You know, I think I'm far away from Mortuary System.
[00:57:58] Right, right.
[00:57:59] No, he will pass away.
[00:58:00] What's ironic is that he does a podcast all about horror.
[00:58:03] So he does Monster Deer Monster, a podcast specifically about horror media.
[00:58:07] So, oh man, I love fucking horror movies and games.
[00:58:10] That's what I smile.
[00:58:11] It's my Jimmy Jam.
[00:58:12] You tell him to hit me up.
[00:58:14] I'll come on that shit and I'll talk about lots of stuff.
[00:58:17] It's Monster Deer Dot Monster.
[00:58:19] They're currently also doing like a slow lore dive through the DLC
[00:58:24] for Elden Ring at this point, but they're alternating that with like movies.
[00:58:27] So they're not doing it every week.
[00:58:29] So that would have time to work through it.
[00:58:31] I'm a freak and I'm playing.
[00:58:32] Like currently I'm playing the DLC for Elden Ring.
[00:58:36] I bought Wukong and I threw that on.
[00:58:38] And I was like, hey, guess what?
[00:58:40] This game is actually really fucking cool.
[00:58:43] And then today I bought Visions of Mana
[00:58:46] and now I have this stack of shit and I'm like, hell, yeah.
[00:58:50] I remember what it's like to play video games
[00:58:53] and not just talk about them all the time.
[00:58:57] Right.
[00:58:58] I'm never going to get to the mall.
[00:59:00] No, I'm full of games, Steve.
[00:59:02] Also, man, I pre-ordered Octopath Traveler 2.
[00:59:07] It's still in my backlog.
[00:59:08] I still haven't booted it up because I've got a Simon Play for podcast
[00:59:11] and I've got like a limited amount of time to play games in the first place.
[00:59:15] And so like there's only just so much time I have and there's always more shit
[00:59:19] in the backlog, so I don't know when I'm going to play it.
[00:59:22] So I beat Dragon Quest one on the weekend, though.
[00:59:25] Yay. Which was yeah, I just that's like six hours.
[00:59:29] It's like nine nine hours.
[00:59:31] I played this the SNES remake that was translated.
[00:59:35] The translated. Yeah.
[00:59:36] Yeah, it's good, man.
[00:59:37] It's really good. Yeah.
[00:59:38] It was a really good time.
[00:59:39] I mean, you know what?
[00:59:42] How do you guys approach a classic RPG like that?
[00:59:45] Are you guys like, oh, that's a good one.
[00:59:48] Are you like me?
[00:59:49] We're like, you know, when they cut you loose,
[00:59:52] I'm always looking for the cut loose part
[00:59:55] after the story builds up a bit and you're like, all right, yeah.
[00:59:59] Tell me what the bad stuff is.
[01:00:00] OK, and introduce me to a few characters.
[01:00:02] Give me my shit to be on my way.
[01:00:05] And when you get cut loose
[01:00:07] and when you get to that first fucking town,
[01:00:10] like the first town that's like outside of the normal town or whatever
[01:00:15] it is that you start at once you get there, it's almost like
[01:00:18] this is my fucking base for the next four hours.
[01:00:22] And I just start to like explore around.
[01:00:25] And I I really like it when there's stuff to explore.
[01:00:30] And it's not just like, yeah, you're going to go to this town.
[01:00:33] But like, ultimately, you're just going to talk to one dude
[01:00:37] that's going to be like, I saw a bear in the cave and then you go to the cave.
[01:00:40] And then that pushes you forward.
[01:00:42] I like when you go somewhere.
[01:00:43] And I think Dragon Quest is fucking awesome at doing this,
[01:00:46] because like you'll get to a town and someone will be like,
[01:00:48] I don't know, you just talk to the people there.
[01:00:50] But like, ultimately, you could go outside of that town
[01:00:53] and kind of wander around and explore.
[01:00:56] And even in Dragon Quest One, I was like,
[01:00:58] this is really cool how they just they don't really tell you what you're
[01:01:01] supposed to do. They're like, hey, you just got to like
[01:01:03] fucking become the hero, man.
[01:01:05] I don't know what to tell you.
[01:01:06] You got to find some shit and like you just go out and you're like
[01:01:09] found a tomb. There was a guy.
[01:01:11] He told me I was not the hero.
[01:01:14] I had to get some stuff.
[01:01:15] So now I'm going to go find that stuff.
[01:01:16] And then you go back to the king and you're like,
[01:01:18] bro, I got some shit to do.
[01:01:20] And he's like, we'll fucking get at it.
[01:01:21] And like just I love fucking games that just kind of cut you loose.
[01:01:27] And they're like, just go fucking do the thing.
[01:01:29] So but I have a I have a whole story
[01:01:33] about it like that's that's not really about my approach to it necessarily.
[01:01:36] But it's it's a sad sob story that I love to tell because it's such drama.
[01:01:42] So so OK, first off, when it comes to just general
[01:01:45] RPGs that are on rails, I will always always always explore everywhere.
[01:01:49] And I will try to get everywhere they will let me go.
[01:01:51] And so sometimes that means you can go to a town before you're supposed
[01:01:55] to be there.
[01:01:55] And I liked it like preemptively explore the town before I go back
[01:01:58] and do whatever I was supposed to do.
[01:02:00] I will finish RPGs, though.
[01:02:02] That's a thing that I will finish because it's enough on rails
[01:02:05] and it gives me enough of, you know, like a direct path.
[01:02:08] And there is so much of a story focus that I will actually finish
[01:02:12] that game versus an open world game.
[01:02:14] But anyway, so my sob story.
[01:02:18] So there is this game on the Sega Genesis
[01:02:21] and is called Dungeons and Dragons Warriors of the Eternal Sun.
[01:02:24] And this is a video game that like, OK, so I had a Genesis
[01:02:29] and, you know, there's not a whole hell of a lot of RPGs on that.
[01:02:32] But I loved Shining Force.
[01:02:34] That was my first RPG.
[01:02:36] And then after that, like I got other ones like Fantasy Star
[01:02:39] and whatever, but like Shining Force was my favorite.
[01:02:42] But I got this one.
[01:02:43] It was D&D. And I was like, cool, I want to rent this
[01:02:46] from the video game store or the video store and play it
[01:02:49] and everything. So I opened it up.
[01:02:51] I started getting into it.
[01:02:52] I made my character started going off into the world.
[01:02:54] And the whole premise of that game is like you and your
[01:02:57] whole civilization or town or kingdom or whatever got like
[01:03:01] lifted up in the sky by magic one day and then plopped in the middle
[01:03:04] of a valley.
[01:03:05] And now you don't know where the hell you are, why you're there
[01:03:08] and what's going on.
[01:03:10] So like you're just kind of turned loose as adventurers to figure shit out.
[01:03:13] And it's cool because it has like overworld turn based fighting,
[01:03:18] but then it also has like first person dungeon mode.
[01:03:20] So it's got like dungeon crawler element as well.
[01:03:23] Very cool. Either way, I start playing it.
[01:03:26] I dig into it.
[01:03:27] I'm getting really, really far, but then it's finally time for me
[01:03:30] to turn it off and go to sleep.
[01:03:31] So I'm like, OK, let me save my game, turn it off.
[01:03:34] I come back the next day.
[01:03:35] The save date is gone because like the battery in the
[01:03:38] cartridge was all fucked.
[01:03:39] And so I went through and I played again.
[01:03:42] And I didn't understand what was going on because this is
[01:03:44] the first time I'd ever had a battery problem before.
[01:03:47] And so I did it all again, you know, and then again got wiped.
[01:03:51] So then I was part broken.
[01:03:53] We had to return it.
[01:03:54] And then the next time we went to the video game store, the
[01:03:56] video store and I got the same video game again.
[01:03:59] I'm like, maybe this is a different copy.
[01:04:00] They only had one.
[01:04:02] So I was like, well, let me leave my Sega Genesis on.
[01:04:06] And then maybe that way it'll still be OK.
[01:04:09] But then it overheated.
[01:04:11] Like I never fucking finished the fucking game.
[01:04:14] And I couldn't find it anywhere to buy because this is back
[01:04:16] in the day when you didn't have online and like you had
[01:04:19] a Toys R Us maybe or a Babbage's or something.
[01:04:21] And is it?
[01:04:23] Babbage's.
[01:04:25] Electron before there was electronic.
[01:04:26] I just want to like, yeah, I just want to give like
[01:04:29] little Jala Hugga me like it's OK.
[01:04:31] Oh, I have another terrible one talking about sad drama.
[01:04:34] So God.
[01:04:36] So when I had a Sega Sega CD, I like was so excited
[01:04:40] because I saw in the Toys R Us a copy of Shining Force CD.
[01:04:45] And I was like, this is the only copy I'm going to buy
[01:04:48] this game and play this game.
[01:04:49] I'm so excited.
[01:04:50] Shining Force, my favorite one of my favorite series.
[01:04:52] So I buy it and then on the car ride home, I'm trying to take it out
[01:04:56] and then the disc snaps in half.
[01:04:58] Oh, and I never found like we went back there.
[01:05:02] We called around.
[01:05:03] There was no other place that had it.
[01:05:05] And I never got another copy and I never got to play it.
[01:05:10] What?
[01:05:11] Yeah. Oh my God.
[01:05:12] So I guess in that way, my approach to playing video games
[01:05:16] in this way, the physical media was a big limiter and sad
[01:05:20] and depressing. So maybe one day when I get a working PC again,
[01:05:25] I will be able to make myself stream these and then I'll be
[01:05:28] able to play like ROMs or something because.
[01:05:31] Do it also unlock the memory of mine that I forgot about
[01:05:35] and it was about renting games.
[01:05:38] I remember vividly before I owned Secret of Mana.
[01:05:42] I rented it from Blockbuster.
[01:05:45] Spent a whole weekend with it like and it just so happened.
[01:05:50] There was no save files when I rented this.
[01:05:54] It was like a message just came out.
[01:05:56] So I like rented it and I was like, start new game. Cool.
[01:05:59] Yeah. Name my character, my own fucking name.
[01:06:03] Go about my day the whole weekend because Blockbuster had
[01:06:07] like the three day rental thing.
[01:06:08] And I was like, oh, fuck yeah, I got this game.
[01:06:11] I put a good dent in it.
[01:06:13] The next weekend, I was like, oh, I'm going back and I'm
[01:06:16] renting that game.
[01:06:18] My dumb fucking kid brain was like, yeah,
[01:06:20] I'll just go back and rent the game.
[01:06:22] My save files obviously going to be there.
[01:06:25] So I like pick it up.
[01:06:28] I remember popping it in.
[01:06:29] It was like all these other names.
[01:06:31] And I'm like, we got the wrong one.
[01:06:33] So I'm like, we got to go back to Blockbuster.
[01:06:37] They gave us the wrong game.
[01:06:38] And we had to go back to Blockbuster.
[01:06:40] And I was like, yeah, I don't know why I turned into a fucking
[01:06:44] Italian when I Joe Pesci.
[01:06:49] So yeah, I was like, we got to go back.
[01:06:51] We got to bring this back.
[01:06:53] And she was like, all right, like Blockbuster wasn't that far away from our house.
[01:06:57] So we go back in and she's like, so my son's saying that you guys
[01:07:00] gave him the wrong game.
[01:07:01] I was like, yeah, this isn't my game.
[01:07:04] This is somebody else's.
[01:07:06] And the guy is just like the guy is just like holding up the cartridges.
[01:07:09] And he's like, this is the only cartridge we have here.
[01:07:12] I'm like, this is the one.
[01:07:15] First off, man, your child's an idiot to the only copy we have.
[01:07:20] Can we euthanize this child right now?
[01:07:22] Because like not it's yet you got to get rid of this.
[01:07:24] This is dumb kid vibes right now.
[01:07:27] You got to put him down.
[01:07:30] He's got to put your kid down.
[01:07:32] So like, yeah, he's like, he's like, well, what game did you think
[01:07:35] you had? And I was like, well, I want a secret man.
[01:07:37] And he's like, this is the secret of man.
[01:07:39] And I was like, yeah, but it's not my secret of man.
[01:07:41] He's like, you don't own this game.
[01:07:43] And I was like, starting to get like upset in this block of block.
[01:07:47] I was really, yeah, but I started that game.
[01:07:50] I started that game and I named my character Jerry.
[01:07:53] And the guy's just like, all right, man.
[01:07:56] Like, I don't know what to tell you.
[01:07:57] Like here's a free movie rental.
[01:08:00] I don't know the fuck out of here.
[01:08:01] So I remember just like going back home and mom is like,
[01:08:04] so is this the right game?
[01:08:05] And I'm like, well, no, it's not.
[01:08:08] But I guess it's just going to have to do.
[01:08:10] And I was loaded up some fucking save file.
[01:08:12] And it's like one is like way at like way, way after where I was.
[01:08:17] And I was just like, I don't know what any is what anything's happening anymore.
[01:08:21] I don't know who these characters are.
[01:08:23] I don't know where to go with this fucking dragon.
[01:08:26] Why can't I play a flute in the dragon shows up?
[01:08:28] And like, then I remember like trying to another save file.
[01:08:31] And it was like, this is way, way behind where I even was.
[01:08:35] Like, I was so much further than this.
[01:08:37] And it was a good long time before I played Secret of Mana again.
[01:08:40] Yeah, sad, Jerry, like probably three years.
[01:08:43] And then I ended up one of the kids that my mom babysit sat was like,
[01:08:49] do you want to borrow this game?
[01:08:50] And I was like, yep.
[01:08:50] And then my mom stopped babysitting and he was like,
[01:08:52] here, you still have my game.
[01:08:54] And I was like, no.
[01:08:58] You guys remember stealing games for friends?
[01:09:02] I have a fun story about somebody being super baller and letting me borrow
[01:09:07] like a whole fucking system and they had never met me face to face.
[01:09:11] So I was part of the early internets, big community around an old anime series
[01:09:18] called Slayers, and it was my favorite anime series.
[01:09:20] And I like one, like quiz competitions and stuff like that.
[01:09:26] And got free stuff and, you know, was actually like known in the
[01:09:29] community of the small early internet days for knowing about this series.
[01:09:35] And anyway, like there were a couple of RPGs that were on the Sega Saturn.
[01:09:39] And so I had a Sega Saturn, but I didn't have like the import cart thing
[01:09:44] that you needed to be able to play import games.
[01:09:46] And I didn't have the copy of the game.
[01:09:47] And there was somebody that I was talking to online who was like,
[01:09:50] I will let you borrow the little, you know, action replay thing.
[01:09:54] And then like the game.
[01:09:55] And I was like, what for real?
[01:09:57] And they did.
[01:09:58] They mailed it to me.
[01:09:59] They let me borrow it for as long as I wanted until I beat it.
[01:10:02] And then I mailed it back to them.
[01:10:04] And it was like the coolest fucking thing from the early internet
[01:10:07] where some random person on the internet trusted me with their
[01:10:10] like import game and let me play this game that was from my favorite series.
[01:10:15] And that was really wild.
[01:10:16] Yeah, yeah.
[01:10:17] So, you know, like approaching with enthusiasm, I suppose is sometimes a good thing.
[01:10:23] Yay. But to have you guys played MMOs, like at all.
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[01:14:40] So. Man, how do I start this?
[01:14:43] Hey, guys, we'll start with that.
[01:14:45] Hey, both of you got how
[01:14:48] sticky notes, right?
[01:14:50] Sometimes they stick, sometimes they don't, right?
[01:14:52] Am I right? You're right.
[01:14:54] That is a fair assumption.
[01:14:55] Fuck them sticky notes.
[01:14:58] Oh, man, yeah.
[01:14:59] For real, sometimes you get a little
[01:15:01] stack of sticky notes.
[01:15:02] You try to stick them on to like your fridge
[01:15:04] or like your face or your water bottle or whatever.
[01:15:07] And sometimes they stick, sometimes they don't.
[01:15:09] Here's a cool, cool new idea for you
[01:15:14] from the company over at Extra Sticky Sticky Notes.
[01:15:16] Yep, it's extra sticky sticky notes.
[01:15:17] They stick to everything.
[01:15:18] They're permanent, even semi-permanent.
[01:15:21] The only way to get them off is with a special
[01:15:22] solvent that takes three to five days to deliver.
[01:15:27] Jerry, extra sticky sticky notes.
[01:15:29] Take it away, Jerry.
[01:15:32] I've been using these for the past five months.
[01:15:38] My marriage has been in collapse
[01:15:40] and I've been trying to piece my marriage
[01:15:44] back together with these sticky sticky notes,
[01:15:47] the extra, extra sticky sticky notes.
[01:15:49] And God damn it, it fucking worked.
[01:15:52] I sticky noted my wife to my arm one day
[01:15:56] and there you go.
[01:15:58] That was that was when she filed for divorce.
[01:16:01] She said, I cannot believe you've done this to us.
[01:16:04] And I said, too fucking bad.
[01:16:07] This is how it is.
[01:16:09] You will love me no matter what.
[01:16:11] Now you're a part of me.
[01:16:13] Then she demanded that we order the the solvent
[01:16:16] and I didn't.
[01:16:20] So then she ripped a very good chunk of my arm off.
[01:16:24] But marriage, I think, is getting better.
[01:16:27] So I owe it to the sticky, sticky, sticky, sticky, sticky notes
[01:16:30] that the sponsor has given us that is starting
[01:16:33] to patch my marriage back up.
[01:16:35] So I really, I really appreciate it.
[01:16:39] Solvents on the way.
[01:16:40] I hope that I can get the rest of her arm off
[01:16:43] of my arm as well.
[01:16:44] That's right.
[01:16:45] And the reason the solvent takes so long, excuse number one,
[01:16:48] they brew it special for every order.
[01:16:51] We got to make sure they, you know, it's freshly made.
[01:16:53] It's not not made with any kind of like
[01:16:56] preservatives or like artificial colors for whatever reason.
[01:17:01] So yeah, they freshly brew it per order
[01:17:04] and special bottles they make themselves.
[01:17:06] Handcraft them even hand blown glass, all that stuff.
[01:17:09] Jala extra sticky, sticky notes take away.
[01:17:12] I really, really need my solvent like yesterday
[01:17:16] because my husband decided that he was going to use his super
[01:17:20] stupor, sticky, sticky, sticky notes.
[01:17:23] And he used them a little bit too many
[01:17:27] and got some of the sticky, sticky, sticky on his hands
[01:17:29] and then had to go to the bathroom
[01:17:31] and you know what happened after that.
[01:17:34] And so we have ourselves a little bit of a crisis.
[01:17:37] He can't go to work like this.
[01:17:38] You can't eat like this.
[01:17:41] Having food feed this man
[01:17:43] because of these sticky, sticky, sticky notes working so well.
[01:17:49] That he's disabled.
[01:17:51] There needs to be.
[01:17:52] I should say I have written to the manufacturer
[01:17:55] to ask them to please put a label, a warning label
[01:17:58] on this search surgeon general's warning
[01:18:00] about touching your nuts or your business
[01:18:04] when you have used these.
[01:18:06] I'll tell you, there's a light at the end of the tunnel
[01:18:08] because just after my wife decided to break off of my arm,
[01:18:12] I was like, you know what?
[01:18:13] I got nothing to lose.
[01:18:14] I started cranking it down
[01:18:15] and I didn't realize that this super sticky, sticky, ultimate
[01:18:18] sticky, sticky is that, you know, that would happen.
[01:18:22] One of the best crank downs of my life, by the way,
[01:18:25] thanks to the sticky notes, but.
[01:18:27] And you were able to seal all the blood
[01:18:29] and stuff coming out of your arm with the super sticky, sticky.
[01:18:33] This is what I was getting at.
[01:18:35] I was getting at this is the fact that
[01:18:36] the blood actually acts a lot like the solvent.
[01:18:40] I hear why it must because it started to come loose.
[01:18:45] So what I think the solvent is made out of
[01:18:48] is the blood of people.
[01:18:49] I'm going to stop you right there.
[01:18:50] Hold on.
[01:18:52] No, they're sponsoring this episode,
[01:18:53] so we can't include this part.
[01:18:55] But yeah, so after, I mean, you're right.
[01:18:59] You're right.
[01:19:00] That's exactly it.
[01:19:01] But forget about that.
[01:19:03] Amazing crackdown though.
[01:19:04] The crackdown was amazing.
[01:19:06] Amazing crackdown.
[01:19:07] It should make, you know what?
[01:19:09] It's like a Tim Allen movie.
[01:19:11] Oh my God, Aaron.
[01:19:13] I got a finger in the ear.
[01:19:16] Beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep.
[01:19:18] Finger in the ear.
[01:19:19] Just this just in.
[01:19:22] Folks, you don't have to worry.
[01:19:25] We have the DLC.
[01:19:27] Okay.
[01:19:27] The DLC is coming for this.
[01:19:29] This always DLC.
[01:19:30] The super duper sticky, sticky, sticky note
[01:19:34] lube for him and her or them, whoever, whoever wants it.
[01:19:40] For those true unions.
[01:19:43] Yeah, it's kind of like what the Mormons do
[01:19:45] when they fucking, when they dock or wherever the fuck
[01:19:47] they do, where they just like the.
[01:19:50] It's like dipping or like soaking.
[01:19:54] Edging, soaking.
[01:19:56] So you heard a soaking and not the fucking composer
[01:19:59] for Final Fantasy 14.
[01:20:01] The actual act of.
[01:20:04] Get the fuck out of here, dude.
[01:20:10] Not him.
[01:20:11] I'm talking about the actual very professional
[01:20:14] act of soaking in your loved one.
[01:20:18] Whether they're Mormon or not.
[01:20:20] And I'm telling you, you just fucking whack
[01:20:22] just a jar of this stuff on there.
[01:20:26] You're never not going to soak again
[01:20:27] because you'll be soaking for the rest of your life.
[01:20:30] Oh, it's not.
[01:20:32] Beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep.
[01:20:33] That's just in.
[01:20:34] They also have extra sticky, sticky notes
[01:20:36] that are completely covered in this sticky garbage shit.
[01:20:40] They can even act as like a like a skin graft.
[01:20:42] So hey, did you burn off all your skin
[01:20:45] in a horrible, awful deep fryer accident?
[01:20:48] Third degree burns all over your body
[01:20:50] because you really love Tater tots.
[01:20:51] Well, guess what?
[01:20:53] Hey, wait, let me make sure I get this in the mic.
[01:20:56] You slap a sticky note on there.
[01:20:59] Yeah, and you know what?
[01:21:00] Hey, I lost my dog, got hit by a truck.
[01:21:04] Really sad to miss that dog.
[01:21:06] But you know what?
[01:21:06] Did you just stick them back together?
[01:21:08] No, made a brand new one.
[01:21:09] Well, that too, yeah.
[01:21:10] Made him brand new, reanimated him even.
[01:21:12] What's his name, Humpty?
[01:21:15] All the King's horses and all the King's men
[01:21:17] used extra sticky, sticky notes
[01:21:19] to put them back together again.
[01:21:21] Poor Humpty.
[01:21:22] Poor Humpty.
[01:21:25] That's it for me, man.
[01:21:26] Holy shit, that dog one really wiped me out.
[01:21:29] That was more than a shit.
[01:21:33] You patch a hole in your car, in your inner tube,
[01:21:37] patch a hole in whatever the fuck.
[01:21:40] As I've proven.
[01:21:42] In your marriage?
[01:21:44] Oh my God.
[01:21:45] If you want to fake a disability like,
[01:21:47] like Jala's husband, yeah, just glue one to your hand
[01:21:50] like to whatever part of your body you want.
[01:21:52] Head, butt, balls, whatever you want.
[01:21:55] Yeah, boom, you're technically disabled now
[01:21:56] because you gotta wait fucking three to five weeks
[01:21:58] to get this solvent.
[01:22:00] So thanks for sponsoring this episode, Extra Drive.
[01:22:03] Thanks for disabling our audience.
[01:22:05] Thanks for putting my dog back together,
[01:22:08] extra sticky, sticky notes.
[01:22:12] Love you, Humpty.
[01:22:18] Be Humpty.
[01:22:21] Do the Humpty Hum.
[01:22:23] Do the Humpty Hum.
[01:22:25] Rip Humpty Hum.
[01:22:27] Oh boy.
[01:22:28] Hey Jala, are we back?
[01:22:30] Are we back?
[01:22:32] I guess we are.
[01:22:33] We're back.
[01:22:34] I believe that I'm still stuck to my chair.
[01:22:37] Same.
[01:22:39] Same, my hands will never be the same
[01:22:41] because they're permanently like this.
[01:22:43] I can never put my fingers back together
[01:22:45] because they're stuck like that.
[01:22:46] Well, I can only lift this hand up.
[01:22:50] Oh, you could like permanently web your hands with those.
[01:22:52] Oh, we still don't?
[01:22:54] Oh, we could but like, this is the DLC, yeah.
[01:22:58] You want to web your fingers to become.
[01:22:59] This is the DLC.
[01:23:01] To become the ultimate aquatic apex predator.
[01:23:04] You just web your hands and your toes.
[01:23:06] Fucking giant sticky note monster.
[01:23:08] You could make.
[01:23:09] It's like, come on Demasi, like there you go.
[01:23:12] You just roll around and get everything stuck to you.
[01:23:15] And you've got a video game right there.
[01:23:16] You could make yourself a wing suit
[01:23:18] just like Pat a whole bunch back here.
[01:23:20] You can just fly through the sky
[01:23:22] like some sort of like the thing from Jeepers Creepers.
[01:23:25] Just like I'm a fucking eagle driver.
[01:23:28] Don't talk to me like that.
[01:23:29] Fuck you, Corrie and Trevor.
[01:23:31] Smokes.
[01:23:32] Smokes boys of school.
[01:23:33] Wingsuits look like snuggies.
[01:23:35] They're very upsetting to me.
[01:23:37] Like when they should make one in the rubber.
[01:23:39] You know, in the rubber patents in movie
[01:23:41] where he's got the wing suit on.
[01:23:43] He just looks like he's in a bat snuggie.
[01:23:45] It's the worst.
[01:23:46] How embarrassing would it be to die in one of those?
[01:23:49] A wingsuit snuggie.
[01:23:51] Yeah.
[01:23:52] Oh, what do we got here?
[01:23:53] Is somebody having a nap in a bear suit?
[01:23:55] No, that's someone that died in the fucking.
[01:23:56] When they soiled themselves.
[01:23:58] They soiled themselves in their snuggie.
[01:24:03] Holy fuck, man.
[01:24:05] Who's this little guy in their snuggie on a trail
[01:24:08] in the fucking mountains?
[01:24:10] Oh, it's a dead guy.
[01:24:12] Oh, man.
[01:24:13] So here's my tragic story.
[01:24:15] Oh, yeah. Right.
[01:24:16] Go ahead.
[01:24:17] Go ahead.
[01:24:17] Just do it.
[01:24:18] Oh, man.
[01:24:19] Besides the time I know whatever.
[01:24:22] Anyway, so when I was a kid,
[01:24:23] I was trying to play through Final Fantasy VIII
[01:24:26] heavy emphasis on trying
[01:24:28] because number one, I didn't understand.
[01:24:30] Not a great game.
[01:24:31] I didn't understand the fucking game.
[01:24:34] The first Final Fantasy I played as a kid was seven.
[01:24:37] And that one was not necessarily straightforward
[01:24:40] with how the game works.
[01:24:42] But I mean, it's a little bit more understandable
[01:24:45] than say like the the junction system at eight
[01:24:48] and even like the draw system was kind of weird, but cool.
[01:24:51] I got all the way to disc two.
[01:24:53] Like I felt like I was doing pretty well
[01:24:54] all the way to disc two.
[01:24:56] I'm pretty sure it was disc two.
[01:24:58] I was right at the end.
[01:24:59] It's where you're in this like factory or something
[01:25:02] and you fight this like giant robot boss thing.
[01:25:06] So I beat the boss, this cut scene plays
[01:25:09] and it gets halfway through the cut scene, freeze.
[01:25:13] And I would sit there out.
[01:25:16] Little kid, me would be like, I'd be waiting.
[01:25:17] I'd be like, is this part of the thing?
[01:25:20] Like how long do I fucking wait?
[01:25:23] And I'd wait like maybe 10 minutes.
[01:25:24] Did it corrupt your save file?
[01:25:27] It did not.
[01:25:28] Turns out there was I think there's just like a scratch
[01:25:31] or something, but every single time that cut scene plays
[01:25:34] would always freeze in the same spot
[01:25:36] so I could never progress.
[01:25:38] Never did be Final Fantasy eight.
[01:25:41] Oh, I have a similar sort of thing.
[01:25:44] So this went from like I know this went totally.
[01:25:48] I was trying to go back to some else,
[01:25:49] but you told the sob story real quick, real quick.
[01:25:52] So Lunar Lunar on Silver Lunar Silver Star,
[01:25:57] the Silver Star on Psycho City.
[01:26:00] So at the very, very end of the game, you are fighting the big bad.
[01:26:03] And then like when I was playing it,
[01:26:04] and this is a brand new video game, no scratches on it, nothing like that.
[01:26:09] In the middle of the battle, the music stops
[01:26:11] and then it like you can continue the battle with no music.
[01:26:14] And then at the end of the battle, it just freezes and nothing happens.
[01:26:18] And so I ended up finding out after several
[01:26:22] times trying to go through this and beating the multiple phases of this boss
[01:26:26] on that last phase when I opened up the Sega CD lid
[01:26:33] and then closed it again when the music turned off,
[01:26:36] it would then load the rest of the game.
[01:26:38] It was the weirdest.
[01:26:39] What? And thing, yeah, it was the weirdest fucking thing.
[01:26:41] I had to open it, pop the thing open
[01:26:44] and then close it again and then it would finish the game.
[01:26:47] It was the weirdest thing, but I did get to finish the game.
[01:26:49] So that is certified grade A baloney.
[01:26:53] Yes, so.
[01:26:56] So.
[01:26:56] Yeah, I have a mo's.
[01:26:58] I haven't played very many.
[01:27:01] I played a little bit.
[01:27:03] I have a deep take on this.
[01:27:04] So Aaron, take it away.
[01:27:05] Get yours out of the way.
[01:27:07] No, no, you go first.
[01:27:08] Oh, OK, so I got a I got a thing about MMOs
[01:27:11] and it's going to be pretty interesting.
[01:27:13] What is it? I've played.
[01:27:14] I mean, I played Destiny if you want to count that as an MMO,
[01:27:18] which I mean, it kind of is so fucking yeah, Destiny.
[01:27:22] I know there's people out there that make like one of every kind
[01:27:26] of character or make like multiple characters.
[01:27:28] I always stuck with the main one because like when I played with
[01:27:31] when I play MMOs, like I want to I want to be that character.
[01:27:34] Like I want to I'm going to be that character.
[01:27:36] Yes, I want to be the main character, right?
[01:27:38] Exactly.
[01:27:39] I would make the one character.
[01:27:42] That's the only character I would play.
[01:27:44] I wouldn't make any more characters.
[01:27:45] You see other people like, oh, I'm going to switch off
[01:27:47] to my my Titan or my Hunter.
[01:27:49] I'm going to switch to my alt.
[01:27:51] Fucking dumb, man.
[01:27:52] No, yeah, I would play make the one character
[01:27:54] and just max the fuck out of them and just go crazy.
[01:27:58] And then I think
[01:28:01] I don't think I've played many other MMOs
[01:28:04] unless you want to count like Diablo four as an MMO, but.
[01:28:08] I don't know.
[01:28:11] It's it's I don't think it's online.
[01:28:13] It's all like
[01:28:15] does not pass the certified test of being MMO.
[01:28:20] Get the fuck out of here, Aaron.
[01:28:22] My take is that, well, I mean, it's no secret.
[01:28:26] So my other podcast Super Ghost,
[01:28:28] we basically started this podcast because Greg, Beth and I spent nearly
[01:28:34] every single day together for hours a day
[01:28:38] playing Final Fantasy 14 online.
[01:28:40] And it was like a happy accident.
[01:28:41] We were just like, what's a game?
[01:28:44] All three of us could play together.
[01:28:45] We're three friends of friends that are bored.
[01:28:49] Let's play a game.
[01:28:50] And one of us suggested that game and we were like, oh, it's got a free fucking
[01:28:54] trial means install it and try it out.
[01:28:57] And then it was like.
[01:29:01] Hookline and sinker like we were fucked.
[01:29:04] And I'll say
[01:29:07] getting our legs, I guess, in the first part of that game,
[01:29:11] like a realm reborn.
[01:29:12] I was like, this is OK, I guess.
[01:29:14] Like I'm not really invested in that like a story or anything like it's just
[01:29:18] kind of fun doing like running dungeons with you guys and stuff and like glam
[01:29:22] and my dude out because here's the thing.
[01:29:25] When I started playing this game, I was like, oh, well,
[01:29:28] there's a lot of customization that you can do within the menus.
[01:29:31] And I was like, I'm just going to make this look like a single player game.
[01:29:34] I don't want the fucking visual diarrhea of MMO screen.
[01:29:38] All the tags and shit.
[01:29:40] No, so I was like, fuck everybody in this world.
[01:29:43] I don't care about anybody else except for my friends.
[01:29:45] So like turn off every name tag other than my friends and like NPCs.
[01:29:50] And then I was like, OK, get all these hot key bullshit out of the way
[01:29:53] because I played with take a deep breath now.
[01:29:56] I played with a controller from start to finish.
[01:29:59] No keyboard and mouse.
[01:30:00] Hell yeah.
[01:30:00] And I customize the entire thing and it essentially ended up
[01:30:04] playing like fucking Xeno blade.
[01:30:08] And my approach to that MMO, the only MMO I've ever played
[01:30:15] and liked, I should say, because I have tried Wow.
[01:30:18] And I thought, no, thanks, I think I'm done.
[01:30:21] But Final Fantasy 14 was a different thing.
[01:30:24] Maybe it was because I came from being a Final Fantasy
[01:30:29] enjoyer previously, but there's something about that game
[01:30:33] that was just like, hey, you can play this however the fuck you want.
[01:30:35] And it kind of lets you do that.
[01:30:37] Like I was able to play that game like a single player game.
[01:30:40] And then occasionally in co-op with my friends.
[01:30:43] And then sometimes you get sucked in to the crazy fucking world.
[01:30:49] And they're like, hey, we're going to a party.
[01:30:51] And I'm like, what do you mean a party?
[01:30:52] And they're like, we're going to a party and we're going to go to dance.
[01:30:55] And I'm like, in real life.
[01:30:57] And they're like, no, in Final Fantasy meet me at these coordinates.
[01:31:01] And I'm like, what are we doing?
[01:31:04] And they're like, put on some good clothes.
[01:31:06] I'm like in real life.
[01:31:07] They're like in the fucking game.
[01:31:09] And I'm like, I don't have good clothes though.
[01:31:11] And they're like, hang on, let me lend you some Gil.
[01:31:13] And then I'm like, Greg, where'd you get all this Gil?
[01:31:15] He's like, don't worry about it.
[01:31:17] I sold the property.
[01:31:17] I'm like, what do you mean you sold the property?
[01:31:19] He's like, I got 14 million Gil.
[01:31:21] Like, don't worry about it.
[01:31:22] And he's buying me like expensive shirts and shit.
[01:31:24] And he's like, I am now your sugar daddy.
[01:31:26] And I'm like, OK, what's this party?
[01:31:28] What's the party we're going to?
[01:31:29] And we go to a meet them in the rain even.
[01:31:32] And like, it's like, oh, we're on a wait list.
[01:31:34] And they're like, no, it's not a game.
[01:31:36] We're going into dance with real people
[01:31:38] and we're going to hang out.
[01:31:39] And I swear to God, I swear to fucking God.
[01:31:42] I went into this fucking place and it was like,
[01:31:46] ass, ass, and like they're doing like fucking emotes
[01:31:50] and they're like fucking dancing to shit.
[01:31:52] And they're like, you're going to like talk to anybody?
[01:31:54] I was like, dude, what's happening here?
[01:31:57] And I was like, I don't know what I'm going to do.
[01:32:00] Here's what I'm going to do.
[01:32:01] I'm going to sell my body
[01:32:04] for our podcast.
[01:32:06] And I started going up and dancing with people
[01:32:09] and be like, what's up, man?
[01:32:10] You ever hear Super Ghost Radio?
[01:32:12] They're like, what the fuck are you talking about?
[01:32:14] And I'm like, yeah, man, it's like a podcast.
[01:32:16] Check out my podcast.
[01:32:17] What's up? And I just like leave.
[01:32:19] We and that was and then.
[01:32:22] But then the story of the game got really fucking good,
[01:32:25] like really, really fucking good.
[01:32:28] And we stopped dancing at these nightclubs with people.
[01:32:31] And that was the only social interaction that I had
[01:32:34] other than when they tried to get me to join an FC.
[01:32:37] And I was like, I don't really care about these people
[01:32:39] though that much. I don't know what the big deal is.
[01:32:41] And they were like, you know, who's really fucking nice?
[01:32:43] I was like, I don't really care.
[01:32:44] I'm playing the game on the main character. Fuck off.
[01:32:46] And that's how I played that game.
[01:32:47] I'm the main character. Get fucked.
[01:32:51] So I have been OK.
[01:32:53] I played one.
[01:32:54] Sorry, that was a long rant.
[01:32:55] No, no, I played one MMO.
[01:32:59] The Guild Wars, that was the one that I got into.
[01:33:01] OK. And I'll put more into that in a minute.
[01:33:05] But I play Guild Wars a lot.
[01:33:08] And then because I play Guild Wars,
[01:33:10] a bunch of people like my sister and other friends are like,
[01:33:14] you should play this other MMO that I play.
[01:33:16] And I tried to play it and like I bounced off
[01:33:18] of like every other fucking MMO I ever play
[01:33:21] except for Guild Wars, which was mine.
[01:33:23] So I got into Guild Wars because around that time,
[01:33:27] this like 2005 when that game first started
[01:33:32] and everybody was playing Wow.
[01:33:33] And I was like, wow, it's ugly and EverQuest is ugly.
[01:33:36] I don't want to play those games. They're stupid.
[01:33:38] Wow, it's ugly too.
[01:33:39] They're ugly. I don't want to play it.
[01:33:40] So but then Guild Wars was pretty
[01:33:42] and it also was not like a subscription service.
[01:33:45] You could just buy the game and play the game and that's it.
[01:33:48] And I was like, that's awesome. Great.
[01:33:50] Oh, really? Yes.
[01:33:51] It was it was fucking cool.
[01:33:52] It was one of the first ones that did that where you can just have a free
[01:33:55] then like you buy the game and then you own the game
[01:33:57] and you can play it on the server without having to pay a subscription.
[01:34:01] So I went around in there and it was beautiful, beautiful, absolutely beautiful.
[01:34:06] So I would explore all over the place
[01:34:09] and end up in all these cool picturesque places
[01:34:11] and take a bunch of screenshots and stuff like that too.
[01:34:14] And everybody did this to the point that like in Guild Wars,
[01:34:17] too, when they made the sequel MMO,
[01:34:19] they ended up making points of interest, a thing
[01:34:22] where like it's on your map and you can complete them to get like special prizes
[01:34:25] and stuff to go to these places to see these scenic,
[01:34:28] you know, views that they have arranged for you.
[01:34:32] But the way that I the thing I like about that game in particular is that
[01:34:37] it has a much more minimal.
[01:34:39] It's not like all the garbage that you're talking about,
[01:34:40] like the visual diarrhea that you've got of like an MMO, right?
[01:34:44] Like you've got eight hotkeys with your spells
[01:34:47] that you have set up for this particular run
[01:34:49] that you're doing on this instanced map that you're going into.
[01:34:54] And so like you get to pick those skills
[01:34:57] and go on about your business and you just have those eight skills.
[01:35:00] Nice and easy, nice and clean.
[01:35:03] And you had like your primary class
[01:35:05] and I was an elementalist, which is your mage type character.
[01:35:09] And you could also pick a secondary class
[01:35:11] and at a certain point in the game, you could alter,
[01:35:13] like switch that secondary class out regularly.
[01:35:16] So depending on the situation,
[01:35:17] I might do different combinations of elementalists
[01:35:20] with monk skills if I needed some healing or elementalists
[01:35:23] with necromancer, if I wanted to be a minion master or something.
[01:35:28] And the thing that I ended up doing with my character,
[01:35:31] the reason why I liked it is because
[01:35:32] then the nickname for Guild Wars was build wars
[01:35:35] because coming up with a build, a unique build
[01:35:39] that had like, you know,
[01:35:43] efficacy and would do all different kinds
[01:35:46] of like neat things and fulfill certain roles
[01:35:49] was like the name of the game and like trying to refine those eight
[01:35:52] skills on your limited bar and your equipment and stuff
[01:35:56] accordingly, so you could play at like a higher level.
[01:35:59] And they had PVP and stuff, but I never played any of that.
[01:36:02] It was always just the environmental play.
[01:36:04] I ended up in a guild, of course.
[01:36:07] My favorite build like you do with a Guild Wars game,
[01:36:10] you never choose to do that, right?
[01:36:12] It's always like you just end up.
[01:36:14] Well, it's like now I'm in a guild.
[01:36:16] Well, and the thing is, is that like I talk to people,
[01:36:19] I talk to people all the time, regularly, just random people.
[01:36:23] And so like in the game, I would talk to people
[01:36:24] and I would maybe run a mission with them.
[01:36:26] And then we would start to actually run multiple missions together
[01:36:29] and then see each other online and then get to know each other.
[01:36:32] And then suddenly we're in a guild.
[01:36:33] So but anyway, my favorite build was an elementalist assassin.
[01:36:39] And what I did so basically elementalists,
[01:36:42] most people who played elementalists played fire elementalists
[01:36:45] because that is their big AOEs, right?
[01:36:48] You know, like massive damage, highest damage and stuff.
[01:36:51] I played a Geomancer, which is high, high damage,
[01:36:56] but to specific targets more often than not.
[01:36:59] But also it would slow your character down to a crawl.
[01:37:02] But the assassin had a bunch of teleporting skills.
[01:37:05] So I would teleport myself in, do like a big, massive damage
[01:37:09] earthquake spell or something to everything around me
[01:37:12] and then warp out and stuff like that.
[01:37:14] And nobody had seen anything like that when I was playing this game.
[01:37:17] So I was like the unique and special snowflake out there
[01:37:20] in the universe of Guild Wars playing this game.
[01:37:23] But I played so many hours.
[01:37:26] Have you tried Final Fantasy 14?
[01:37:28] I have not time being a limited thing that it is.
[01:37:32] And with assignment play and everything,
[01:37:34] I cannot afford to do even a try at something like an ammo right now.
[01:37:40] I was trying to clue up because I swear to God,
[01:37:44] we played this fucking game like I played that game
[01:37:46] exclusively for basically a year.
[01:37:49] Like because, I mean, by the time we got into it in what was that?
[01:37:53] Twenty twenty twenty one or something.
[01:37:55] By the time we got into it, I mean, the it was.
[01:37:59] Donning on the last part of the whole main story,
[01:38:03] like it had been out for fucking 10 or 11 years.
[01:38:05] And like it was coming to this insane
[01:38:09] like resolution of this crazy story.
[01:38:12] So like when we started playing it,
[01:38:13] like once we got through the first thing,
[01:38:15] which was kind of like pretty vanilla.
[01:38:17] But then like you get into this the fucking second
[01:38:20] like expansion and you're like, wait a second.
[01:38:23] Nobody told me that this is like a good fucking Final Fantasy game.
[01:38:27] Like nobody told me that it's like well written and shit.
[01:38:30] And then like the more it went on, I was like, wait,
[01:38:33] are these some of the best Final Fantasy games out now?
[01:38:36] Like what the fuck is going on here?
[01:38:37] And like we couldn't stop.
[01:38:39] It was crazy.
[01:38:40] Like I felt bad because I'm addicted to fucking beating games.
[01:38:44] And I was not beating games.
[01:38:47] I was just beating expansions in Final Fantasy
[01:38:50] but like over the course of like fucking months.
[01:38:53] And yeah, like when this thing ended,
[01:38:57] like when we finished Endwalker, which by the way, holy fuck.
[01:39:01] We finished Endwalker and I was like, all right,
[01:39:05] I'm done with I'm I'm clean slate.
[01:39:07] And they were like, oh, Jerry, it doesn't end.
[01:39:10] It's an MMO never ends.
[01:39:11] I was like, no, I ended for me.
[01:39:12] That was like a nice little bow.
[01:39:14] And they were like, no, it never ends.
[01:39:15] It's going to be more.
[01:39:16] And I'm like, yeah, but I don't care.
[01:39:18] So I said I didn't care.
[01:39:20] But then I started to care and I started to play like the
[01:39:22] like the because there's always like a part
[01:39:26] like a last part to like the main expansion.
[01:39:30] So I was trying to clue that up because they were like, man,
[01:39:32] Don trail is coming out fucking start your engines.
[01:39:36] And I was like, all right.
[01:39:39] Fear of missing out has hit me real bad.
[01:39:42] But then like as soon as it came around time, I was like,
[01:39:44] I don't care.
[01:39:46] I like I want to but I don't because like you said,
[01:39:50] it's just like there's no fucking time.
[01:39:53] I don't I want to beat other fucking games.
[01:39:56] Like I just can't focus on the even though like, yeah, sure.
[01:40:00] It probably only take them a amount of time that a normal RPG would.
[01:40:04] But then you end up at dance clubs and Greg's buying new shirts.
[01:40:10] And it's like, well, here we go again.
[01:40:13] So so right when Guild Wars two was being like in beta testing
[01:40:17] and stuff like that, I was actually part of the Guild Wars Insider Group,
[01:40:21] which was like a news outlet that had stuff just about Guild Wars.
[01:40:25] And I was like their moderator for their community and I was part of their guild.
[01:40:29] And so I was in the beta doing like writing up stuff for, you know,
[01:40:34] like the articles and everything.
[01:40:35] And like I was obviously like really involved in this community and everything.
[01:40:39] And I played Guild Wars two, but I never liked it nearly as much as I like the first one.
[01:40:43] And so like I got through, you know, the whole main first one
[01:40:47] and the first DLC or something, you know, like first expansion rather.
[01:40:50] And then like at some point I'm just like, and then people are like,
[01:40:54] oh, but now they have mounts and they have gliders and they have X, Y and Z.
[01:40:57] And I'm like, I mean, like if I load it up, I'm just going to be like,
[01:41:02] I'm kind of over what's going on here.
[01:41:04] I actually really was thinking about because they still have the servers
[01:41:07] up for Guild Wars the original.
[01:41:09] I'm really thinking about going back to that.
[01:41:11] That's surprising.
[01:41:12] Holy shit.
[01:41:13] And see, this is why I've been looking for bite size RPGs lately.
[01:41:17] That's why I went after Dragon Quest one because I was like, it's nine hours.
[01:41:21] It's nine hours.
[01:41:22] Nine hours.
[01:41:22] Golden sun.
[01:41:23] Nine hours, nine persons, nine doors anyway.
[01:41:26] Good ass game, by the way.
[01:41:29] Have either of you dabbled in MOBAs at all?
[01:41:31] No, I was made to play by a person who
[01:41:36] enjoys the level like listener of the level who was like, oh, oh, Jala, Jala,
[01:41:42] you've got to play a MOBA with me.
[01:41:43] And I'm like, OK.
[01:41:45] Which one?
[01:41:46] No, I never stuck.
[01:41:47] So sorry.
[01:41:49] But tell us your MOBA story anyway.
[01:41:51] Oh my gosh, so for I want to say like a good span of like three years,
[01:41:59] I would play Smite like almost every night, like almost every single night.
[01:42:06] Me and my brother-in-law and like maybe some other friends,
[01:42:09] we would all get together and we played some Smite probably just
[01:42:12] because it's the first one that really came to consoles.
[01:42:16] But and it was cross play, too.
[01:42:18] It was the one game because like my brother-in-law is on PS4.
[01:42:21] It's the first game we could all play together.
[01:42:23] But where I'm really good with this is like when I play a MOBA again,
[01:42:27] just like with fighting games and shit, I always pick the characters
[01:42:30] that like that nobody else really plays.
[01:42:32] Then yeah, Smite and Pokemon Unite.
[01:42:35] That's another one that I was addicted to for a little while there,
[01:42:38] which like Pokemon Unite probably isn't as in-depth
[01:42:42] as Smite, but it was still pretty fucking fun.
[01:42:44] You can play on your phone also for free.
[01:42:46] It's pretty great. Cool.
[01:42:48] Cool. So I have a story about Metal Gear.
[01:42:52] So my first Metal Gear game was Metal Gear Solid 3.
[01:42:58] And I was not the one who was playing it originally.
[01:43:01] It was the boyfriend that I had at the time.
[01:43:03] And he would get up and have to like go do other stuff or whatever,
[01:43:07] like go take care of something like chores or something.
[01:43:10] But he would leave the game running.
[01:43:11] And so I would just pick it up because I got bored waiting.
[01:43:15] And I would just start fucking around with the camo
[01:43:17] and then like sneaking through the grass and like picking up,
[01:43:19] like killing all of the animals, collecting critters for him.
[01:43:22] So like he has all this stuff to eat.
[01:43:24] Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
[01:43:25] So it was like this whole thing where I was doing that.
[01:43:28] And then it was also like my first Resident Evil game
[01:43:31] was Resident Evil 4. Same situation like he would get up and leave.
[01:43:35] And then I would be sitting there fucking with his controller.
[01:43:37] And so like, you know, I had him get eaten by the Lake Monster
[01:43:41] because I was shooting fish and you shoot the fish enough
[01:43:47] in the original Resident Evil 4 game with before you go
[01:43:52] and encounter the Lake Monster and the Lake Monster will come out and eat you.
[01:43:55] So that happened.
[01:43:57] But also I would just like go beat the QTEs for him
[01:44:01] because he was having a trouble with the QTEs.
[01:44:03] So it was this whole thing.
[01:44:05] So my first acquaintanceship with both of those two series
[01:44:09] was something weird, but when what was it?
[01:44:12] What the hell was it called?
[01:44:14] The final, no, not the final.
[01:44:16] The Metal Gear Solid 5.
[01:44:19] Something Phantom Phantom Pay.
[01:44:22] The the preview.
[01:44:24] Yes, that guy.
[01:44:25] Yeah. So I played Ground Zeroes and just in that little
[01:44:28] ADB preview, you know, you know how I said I would do a thing
[01:44:31] and then I go AWOL.
[01:44:32] I love sniping things until I see too many targets
[01:44:36] and then I go AWOL.
[01:44:37] And so like I was behaving and sniping things
[01:44:40] and admiring snakes shapely ass until such a point as I.
[01:44:45] Good cake.
[01:44:46] Decided to murder everyone and then steal a tank.
[01:44:49] And then I got very upset because like I got in the tank
[01:44:52] and I was going through the whole place.
[01:44:55] And then I was trying to leave so I could, you know, like escape.
[01:44:58] But then, you know, I got blocked, cock-blocked by like,
[01:45:01] you know, the invisible barriers because it's just like only a
[01:45:03] certain amount of area.
[01:45:06] And so my husband's response when I told him about all of this
[01:45:10] was, well, it's a good fucking thing.
[01:45:12] You didn't play the actual Metal Gear 5 because if you did,
[01:45:16] then you would just fuck off into the desert and never be seen again.
[01:45:19] And I'm like, I know because don't give me an open world.
[01:45:22] I will never finish it.
[01:45:24] So back to that.
[01:45:26] But Sniper Elite.
[01:45:27] Sniper Elite is kind of a similar situation.
[01:45:29] I will crawl around.
[01:45:31] I love Sniper Elite games.
[01:45:33] They're very fun to me.
[01:45:34] I broke the Sniper Elite 2 the first time I played it because like
[01:45:37] in the tutorial, you're supposed to just go forward through the
[01:45:41] tutorial, but I went backwards because I was curious to see if
[01:45:44] anything changed back there.
[01:45:45] And then I fell through the scenery and broke the game
[01:45:49] in the tutorial before I even got to the first level.
[01:45:53] And yeah, so like I will go through Sniper Elite games
[01:45:56] and I will just snipe the shit out of things until such
[01:45:58] a point as there are too many tempting targets.
[01:46:01] Then I will start blowing things up and then running
[01:46:03] and stealing tanks and doing anything else.
[01:46:06] I actually, at one point, there is in Sniper 4,
[01:46:09] there is one point where you your mission is to kill Hitler
[01:46:13] and you can get a real clear shot of.
[01:46:15] Snipe him in the dick.
[01:46:16] Yeah. Well, so so like
[01:46:20] I've like there is a point early in that level
[01:46:22] where you can get a clear shot of Hitler.
[01:46:25] So I took it and I shot him.
[01:46:27] But the game was expecting you to shoot him after he,
[01:46:30] you know, after sneaking in to do with all this other shit.
[01:46:34] But I had hit him from like way the hell far away and, you know,
[01:46:37] killed him in one hit.
[01:46:39] So I had to like I thought I oh, I can just back up
[01:46:43] to the extraction point and be done with this level in like two seconds.
[01:46:46] But no, the extraction point was on the other side of all of the shit.
[01:46:49] So everybody was on high alert because Hitler got killed
[01:46:52] and I had to go through this whole everybody's on high alert compound.
[01:46:57] And it was real interesting and stressful
[01:47:00] because I decided to go and shoot him early
[01:47:04] instead of being patient like a sniper is supposed to be doing.
[01:47:09] It always sucks when you go to shoot Hitler and everything goes on high alert.
[01:47:13] Right.
[01:47:14] Why didn't want him to go into his little like secret locker room or whatever.
[01:47:17] Fuck that.
[01:47:18] Hitler's little crack then.
[01:47:19] Yeah.
[01:47:19] This is German.
[01:47:20] Is German shepherd crack then?
[01:47:24] You guys play shooters at all?
[01:47:28] Yeah, I like a boomer shooter, though.
[01:47:31] I really like that.
[01:47:32] I actually recently threw on that Doom 2
[01:47:35] like one and two remake that came out that nightdive did.
[01:47:40] Fuck is that game?
[01:47:41] Fuck hard.
[01:47:42] Holy shit.
[01:47:43] Like I've played Doom one and two like actually, I haven't played a lot of Doom
[01:47:46] two. I remember vaguely playing it like way back in the day.
[01:47:50] But yeah, they updated like the music and shit in it.
[01:47:53] And then like you get the steam version, you can like extract
[01:47:57] the fucking the music from that and put like different music in.
[01:48:02] And like you can also do like the great tracing mod and shit.
[01:48:05] And it looks fucking awesome.
[01:48:07] But like I don't mind like I like a third person sure for sure.
[01:48:11] Like but I'm like a very specific type.
[01:48:16] So to keep in line with the episode theme, my approach to a third person shooter is
[01:48:21] like is there an approach to a third person shooter?
[01:48:25] Like I feel like it's just like just do the thing.
[01:48:28] You just go do the thing like on chartered.
[01:48:31] It's like soft puzzles Indiana like fucking do.
[01:48:35] OK, well, so so how about any game that has a stealth component?
[01:48:41] It could be a third person shooter that has a stuff because like see dishonored.
[01:48:45] How do you play dishonored?
[01:48:47] You know, like that's a good one because dishonored is very like open to
[01:48:51] hey, what do you want to do here?
[01:48:52] You want to fuck everybody up or do you want to like sneak around tip toe?
[01:48:56] Yeah, like if there's a game that gives you the option of either
[01:48:59] going in guns blazing or like stealthing around like that, day sex.
[01:49:05] Hell, even like even like fallout and shit.
[01:49:08] If you want to sneak your way through that,
[01:49:10] would you rather bank bank gun shooting guy or would you rather sneak around
[01:49:15] and like avoid all of that shit?
[01:49:17] I'm like a in between.
[01:49:19] I'll try sneaking and the second I'm caught because I know like Greg,
[01:49:23] my co-host, he's the second he is caught.
[01:49:25] He's like we're restarting the mission.
[01:49:27] And I'm like why?
[01:49:28] And he's like, no, there is no room for air.
[01:49:31] And I'm like, all right, dude, fuck.
[01:49:33] I am the kind of person that I'm like, let me try to sneak it around.
[01:49:37] And the second that I'm like, go to a slash at somebody and I'm like
[01:49:40] two frames too far away from them.
[01:49:42] And they're like, what was that?
[01:49:44] And they turn around.
[01:49:44] I'm like, well, guess I'm compromised.
[01:49:47] Just started on loading clips.
[01:49:51] I don't typically like, stealthing things though.
[01:49:55] So like with Dishonored, I was stealthy to a point,
[01:49:59] but I was also more not stealthing, but outsmarting.
[01:50:04] So like, I would take ways that I'd be like,
[01:50:05] I don't lure this guy out, but I'm also going to fucking shit up
[01:50:08] as soon as he walks outside of this door.
[01:50:10] Like and then throw his body over a fucking ravine or something.
[01:50:14] I was never like the kind of guy that's like,
[01:50:16] I will be part of the shadows and just like sneak around and never get caught.
[01:50:21] Because you're Noruto running through the shadows.
[01:50:23] Yeah, doing the fucking the backwards arms and shit.
[01:50:27] For some reason, like there's certain stealth games that I do enjoy.
[01:50:31] But for the most part, I find them kind of boring.
[01:50:34] Like when I have to sneak around because it's like, where's the action?
[01:50:37] It's just like puzzle game.
[01:50:39] Here's the thing with Dishonored.
[01:50:41] Dishonored is like you should be sneaky,
[01:50:43] but then they give you all of these cool things to blow people up and stuff.
[01:50:47] And there's like a lot of them, you know, and it's like,
[01:50:50] be sneaky and don't kill people.
[01:50:52] But here's a lot of really cool ways to kill people if you really want to do that.
[01:50:56] And, you know, to me as much as the people levy that as a criticism against that game,
[01:51:01] like I feel that that's more like encouraging replay, right?
[01:51:05] So you've already done a good route on your first one where you're sneaking more
[01:51:08] or whatever and then the next time then you can be total chaos and blow everybody up
[01:51:12] and have fun with all the toys.
[01:51:13] Or what I would do is, you know, so in Dishonored, I love exploring.
[01:51:19] I love traversal. You give me good traversal.
[01:51:21] I will play your game and I will play the shit out of it.
[01:51:23] So in Dishonored, I will go through the level.
[01:51:25] I will go explore everything.
[01:51:26] And then as soon as I get to the next part that changed, you know,
[01:51:29] goes to the next part of the mission, I will turn around and then find the other
[01:51:33] way to get through the level and then backtrack and go learn both routes.
[01:51:38] And so like I was in that game double the time everybody else was because
[01:51:41] I was having fun going and seeing all the different ways I could go
[01:51:44] in testing where they would let me go to and things like that.
[01:51:48] And whenever I felt like I really wanted to kill shit,
[01:51:50] I would save the game and then blow everyone up and then maybe blow them
[01:51:54] up, you know, get that out of my system and then reload my game
[01:51:58] and move forward and just go from there.
[01:52:01] Dishonored was really good about that, though.
[01:52:03] Like I feel like that was one of the first games that I remember being like
[01:52:06] you really kind of can do whatever the fuck you want in this game.
[01:52:10] You know, you can go through the game without killing pretty much anybody.
[01:52:13] Anybody. Yeah.
[01:52:14] I think it's just the bosses that you have to kill.
[01:52:15] Isn't it? No, you don't even have to kill those.
[01:52:17] You can not leave everyone.
[01:52:19] Every single person. Yeah.
[01:52:20] You can non-lethal the entire game.
[01:52:22] I did a deep dive on the entire IP on my show.
[01:52:26] So there's six hours, two episodes, six hours.
[01:52:30] And if you count the bonus episode, a seventh hour of dishonored talk.
[01:52:34] So I love that game.
[01:52:36] You know, I've never played Dishonored 2.
[01:52:38] Oh, well, that's on her too is really good.
[01:52:40] And I've heard that the DLC for that is fucking awesome.
[01:52:43] So here's what I'll say about Dishonored 1 and Dishonored 2
[01:52:47] and then also the third one, which is not really the third one,
[01:52:51] the death of the outsider, which is it's kind of like three,
[01:52:55] but not really because it's like the size of a DLC,
[01:52:58] but it was released as a separate thing.
[01:53:01] Anyway, first dishonored is kind of like a steady state
[01:53:05] of stuff being pretty cool, you know, like pretty dark and pretty cool.
[01:53:10] And like the consistency, there's a lot of consistency
[01:53:12] to like the quality of what you're seeing.
[01:53:14] And Dishonored 2, there's some super high highs,
[01:53:18] but there's also a lot of like uninspired bits here and there
[01:53:20] that you go through as well.
[01:53:22] So it's kind of more of a roller coaster where it's like,
[01:53:24] this is really, really fucking cool and memorable and awesome.
[01:53:27] But then there's other stuff that you're just like, oh,
[01:53:29] I totally don't remember that at all.
[01:53:31] Like, you know, when you go back to it later.
[01:53:34] And then death of the outsider is kind of like primarily story driven,
[01:53:38] but it's trying to kind of give you slightly different move sets
[01:53:42] and put you into circumstances that are similar to things
[01:53:46] that you've done in the prior games.
[01:53:47] So it's like if you like what the first couple of games are doing,
[01:53:51] then you will like death of the outsider,
[01:53:53] but it's not going to present anything new and exciting.
[01:53:57] But if you like Dishonored 1
[01:53:58] and you haven't played Dishonored 2, you should play Dishonored 2
[01:54:01] at least until you get to the Clockwork Mansion.
[01:54:04] I heard that that thing is fucking crazy.
[01:54:07] So worth it, worth it.
[01:54:10] Hell yeah. So anyway, yeah.
[01:54:12] So here's a weird deep cut for all y'all.
[01:54:14] There's a game on the three 16 PS3 called Alpha Protocol.
[01:54:18] Oh, that's a good game.
[01:54:19] Yeah, it's good.
[01:54:21] But it's like kind of janky sometimes, but like.
[01:54:25] Oh, it's real janky.
[01:54:26] It's still a good game.
[01:54:28] Just like Dishonored, yeah, you can go through the game
[01:54:30] however you want, although in Alpha Protocol,
[01:54:33] there are bosses that you have to kill.
[01:54:35] You can't do non-lethal for sure.
[01:54:37] But there's parts in like the little hub areas
[01:54:40] before you go to a mission.
[01:54:41] You can like you can pay to have someone's
[01:54:44] like sabotage something in the next level
[01:54:47] or have them send something that you can go pick up
[01:54:49] in the next level kind of like hitman, but that's also
[01:54:52] in Dishonored too.
[01:54:53] Yeah, and fucking and you can unlock
[01:54:56] cool different dumb skills and.
[01:55:00] I think there's like different trees for like
[01:55:03] or different skill trees, different skills for like
[01:55:06] if you want to go be like like an offensive assault guy
[01:55:09] or stealthy stealth boy or I think the other one was like
[01:55:12] I think you can go like a techie route where you've hacked shit
[01:55:15] and stuff like that.
[01:55:16] But in those kinds of games, if there is stealth,
[01:55:19] just like Jerry, I'll try to stealth if I get caught.
[01:55:23] But blasted.
[01:55:24] Yeah, so anyways, I started blasting.
[01:55:28] You know, I don't know what this episode turned into,
[01:55:32] but I really like it.
[01:55:33] Well, I do have like a couple of other instances of like,
[01:55:36] say there's there's some it's not an endless runner.
[01:55:39] It's an endless flyer.
[01:55:42] Airy Sky Castle.
[01:55:44] I don't know, I play random things sometimes,
[01:55:46] especially if they're indie games that are short.
[01:55:49] So in this one, you play as like a wizard
[01:55:51] that's turned into a bird that's trying to collect
[01:55:53] some kind of shit to save the world.
[01:55:56] I don't know.
[01:55:56] Anyway, it's like an endless flyer.
[01:55:58] You're a bird flying around.
[01:55:59] You got to collect things.
[01:56:00] So OK, cool, whatever.
[01:56:02] There was this one tunnel that I went down
[01:56:04] and I saw this little hole and I was like,
[01:56:07] oh, I wonder if that's a secret place.
[01:56:09] I've got to go there.
[01:56:10] So I kept on trying and trying and trying until I got through
[01:56:13] that little hole and I broke the game.
[01:56:16] I went outside the geometry.
[01:56:18] I was outside the level and I had found the one hole
[01:56:21] in the level and flew out and then I couldn't get back in.
[01:56:26] So the propensity for me to break a game is pretty high.
[01:56:30] I probably should be in, you know, quality control
[01:56:32] for video games for that reason.
[01:56:35] I did that kind of thing with the game.
[01:56:38] I think it's pronounced Jussant.
[01:56:41] Jussant, I don't know how it's pronounced.
[01:56:43] It's that weird like rock climbing game
[01:56:45] where you're just climbing up the hills, the mountains and shit.
[01:56:49] Immediately right at the start, I was like, dude,
[01:56:51] these controls are fucking bonkers.
[01:56:53] I want to see if I can kill myself by just jumping off.
[01:56:57] They know I got I got wildly stuck to the side of a cliff.
[01:57:00] If there's any game that lets me like jump off
[01:57:03] of a really high area, I'm going to do it at least once
[01:57:05] or twice just for the fuck of it.
[01:57:08] Oh my God, Aaron, write this down.
[01:57:10] Episode idea best game glitches.
[01:57:14] Oh, where's my fucking phone?
[01:57:18] Because this is like I love how this this is like the most
[01:57:21] freeform episode I think we've ever done because it started
[01:57:24] as one thing and then kind of morphed into something else.
[01:57:26] We're still wrapping it back around though.
[01:57:29] It's still I love it though.
[01:57:30] I fucking love it.
[01:57:31] I love when it's like let's let's do this topic
[01:57:33] and it's like by the end of the episode is like so tacos are fucking crazy, bro.
[01:57:39] well, I do have another one.
[01:57:41] Have either of you played a planescape torment
[01:57:43] and I'm not talking torment, Tides of Numenera.
[01:57:45] I mean, the old one.
[01:57:47] I haven't heard of it.
[01:57:49] I haven't been yelled at to play this game.
[01:57:51] It's so fucking is one of my favorite games of all time.
[01:57:54] So top five, top five.
[01:57:56] Yeah. Top three.
[01:57:59] That's hard.
[01:58:00] I'd have to think about it and reflect back
[01:58:02] on what I would list as my top names to tell you.
[01:58:05] It's like, I don't actually have a list in my head right off the top.
[01:58:08] I just love pressuring people like that.
[01:58:10] Like top 10.
[01:58:11] They're like, oh, yeah, top 10.
[01:58:12] Top five.
[01:58:13] Oh, yeah, top five.
[01:58:14] Top three.
[01:58:14] And they're like, I don't know.
[01:58:16] I would I would say like for games
[01:58:18] that are really, really interesting,
[01:58:19] that do some fun stuff.
[01:58:20] I would probably say that yeah, it is in the top three
[01:58:23] for ones that are doing unique things.
[01:58:25] I mean, even even the fact that you easily said it was top five.
[01:58:28] Yeah, like so the thing about this game or fucking with something good here,
[01:58:31] really fucking good writing.
[01:58:33] And not only that, but like OK, so so combat in the old version is rough.
[01:58:37] I know that they made a remaster version.
[01:58:39] I have not played that because I have a copy of it on Switch.
[01:58:43] And you know, like to play on a screen this small is just
[01:58:46] tiny ass text is not a thing I'm into.
[01:58:49] So I have not played the remastered version,
[01:58:51] but from the original version was it on PS one?
[01:58:55] It was on PC.
[01:58:56] I feel like it was on PC.
[01:58:57] I don't think it was on PS.
[01:58:58] It might be. I don't know.
[01:58:59] I had no idea.
[01:59:00] But anyway, I played the PC version.
[01:59:04] So either way, in this game,
[01:59:07] it has lots and lots of really, really good writing
[01:59:10] and you know, like the graphics and stuff are of its age
[01:59:14] and all of that kind of thing.
[01:59:15] But the role playing options are out of this world.
[01:59:19] And to the point where you can get to the end boss
[01:59:25] and not fight the end boss,
[01:59:27] you can role play your way out of that scenario.
[01:59:31] And you can talk to them and you can pick options and stuff.
[01:59:35] So like the secret of that game is that none of your other stats
[01:59:39] really matter as much as like your charisma for your options.
[01:59:43] You know, like your talking options and stuff.
[01:59:46] So, you know, but yeah, your role playing stats,
[01:59:49] like the higher your charisma or, you know, like your stats
[01:59:52] that allow you to do more role playing things,
[01:59:55] the better off you are for like a rich experience in that game.
[02:00:00] And let your companions do all the fighting and the actual fights.
[02:00:04] Like you're fine, just make your character able to do the talking
[02:00:08] because all of those options, like you would love to see all of that.
[02:00:13] And I played Torment Tides of Numenera as well.
[02:00:17] That one is also really good, but it is not Plainscape Torment.
[02:00:22] Plainscape Torment is still better in my opinion.
[02:00:23] So. But yeah, in that game, I definitely did
[02:00:28] a mixture of role playing my way out of situations
[02:00:33] and then in some instances and then other instances I'm like,
[02:00:37] but I feel like I hate you and I want to kill you.
[02:00:39] So I'm going to kill you now.
[02:00:41] So I do that and shit like fallout and oblivion and stuff.
[02:00:47] They forgot to the point where I couldn't talk my way out of things
[02:00:49] or like if my like my science skill was too low or something,
[02:00:52] I'd be like, all right, well, I guess you're fucking dead.
[02:00:55] Yeah, see, like the thing about Torment
[02:00:58] is that like the role playing options that you have are far more in depth.
[02:01:02] Like you wouldn't see role playing options like that even
[02:01:06] even with Baldur's Gate 3, I don't know.
[02:01:08] Like the Baldur's Gate 3 is a far more expensive game
[02:01:10] because it's far newer and has, you know, more capability.
[02:01:14] But like insofar as like your actual options are concerned,
[02:01:18] like Torment has like a unique in depth,
[02:01:23] you know, like plethora of things you can do.
[02:01:27] So yeah. Oh, yeah.
[02:01:29] We're creepy. We're we're past two hours.
[02:01:32] You're like, now let's stop now. We're done.
[02:01:36] Aaron, can I get off the ride now, please?
[02:01:40] Anything else anybody wants to
[02:01:42] wants to hand out to all the others
[02:01:44] before we wrap this here thing up?
[02:01:46] No, I think those are all the ones that I really, really wanted to mention.
[02:01:48] Let me look through my list real quick.
[02:01:50] Yeah, that was the ones I wanted to talk about.
[02:01:53] One last one. I want to get out of the way.
[02:01:56] Slap this one.
[02:01:57] Yeah, games that that like that give you the out.
[02:02:00] So I guess I can't really explain it without
[02:02:04] so Pokemon, Scarlet and Violet, trash games.
[02:02:07] They just they don't work most of the time.
[02:02:09] I mean, like, yeah, yeah, they they when they work,
[02:02:13] they're fine.
[02:02:15] Most of the time they look like shit and they play like shit.
[02:02:17] But anyway, yeah, so you can go do like this storyline
[02:02:20] or this storyline or this storyline.
[02:02:22] But when you do beat those ones, you unlock new abilities.
[02:02:25] So I went around, unlocked all the abilities first
[02:02:27] so I could explore everywhere and then I went and beat the game.
[02:02:30] And then yeah, games that let you do that,
[02:02:33] like go and collect abilities and then continue the story.
[02:02:37] Like games like that.
[02:02:39] I'll go around, collect all the abilities, explore as much as possible
[02:02:43] and then beat the game and then be done with it.
[02:02:45] Like say Steam World Dig 2.
[02:02:47] I did that as well, just that everything got the jet pack,
[02:02:51] explored all that I possibly could and then beat the game.
[02:02:54] And I was like, cool, guess I'll zip it up and be on my way.
[02:02:58] Yeah, so like when I go into a game, I prioritize.
[02:03:02] I love narrative and characters,
[02:03:04] but it has to be like a story rich game for that to be pertinent.
[02:03:08] Like I also appreciate games that don't have a damn story.
[02:03:11] It's fine.
[02:03:13] But if they are narrative, you know, narrative heavy or whatever,
[02:03:16] I like the characters.
[02:03:17] I like the story.
[02:03:18] That'll be what gets me invested in it.
[02:03:20] If it doesn't have that, I want traversal.
[02:03:22] Give me traversal, fun traversal.
[02:03:24] Give me exploration.
[02:03:25] Let me go places and do things.
[02:03:27] You know, those are things that I like to do a lot.
[02:03:31] So those are those are probably my top priorities.
[02:03:35] How about y'all?
[02:03:35] I think so too.
[02:03:37] Yeah, like if a game does have fun traversal,
[02:03:40] I'll probably stick with that.
[02:03:41] Like the or in the Blind Forest, for the most part,
[02:03:44] for me, the sequel doesn't even exist.
[02:03:46] I've played like maybe an hour or two of Ori and the Wild, the Wyss,
[02:03:49] but didn't care for it.
[02:03:51] The first one, the traversal is great.
[02:03:53] I love just zipping through the game.
[02:03:55] Just fucking like just completely ignoring the enemies
[02:03:58] because it's just so fun to just zip and dodge around them and shit.
[02:04:02] And especially if I played a game more than once,
[02:04:05] maybe it's my my first time playing through a game.
[02:04:08] Like sometimes I'll pay attention to the story,
[02:04:10] but most of the times it's like, I just want to I just want to play.
[02:04:13] Let me let me fucking play and then I'll just zip and zoop around.
[02:04:15] For me, it's a lot of rewarding exploration.
[02:04:21] Like not just exploration for the sense of being like
[02:04:24] you went in that cave and found a fucking stick with a rock attached to it.
[02:04:27] That's pretty cool, huh?
[02:04:28] Like I like it when you will find something like a nook or cranny
[02:04:32] that you are like, hey, wait, can I can I go in here?
[02:04:35] Can I do that? Oh, wait, there's a oh god, there's a whole area back here.
[02:04:38] And then you're like, oh, there's a fucking optional boss.
[02:04:40] And it's like, oh, I got a crazy weapon or something out of this.
[02:04:43] And then it's like all like when a game adds stuff like that.
[02:04:49] And let me tell you,
[02:04:51] let me be the first to tell you guys, Wukong is doing this.
[02:04:56] I'm telling you, I'm not being paid by the fucking Chinese government
[02:05:00] and I swear to God, like it's doing the thing.
[02:05:04] Like it's it's doing the thing that I've been wanting things to do.
[02:05:09] And, you know, I mean, Elden Ring is like
[02:05:13] probably the case study for this for me.
[02:05:16] It's just like, you know, I did get a sense of like,
[02:05:20] oh, what's that thing over there?
[02:05:21] Like there's a sense of discovery and the Zelda like the modern Zelda games.
[02:05:25] But with Elden Ring, like every part of Elden Ring
[02:05:29] kind of felt handcrafted to the point where it's like,
[02:05:32] what is that place?
[02:05:33] And then you go to it and there's always something.
[02:05:36] And I have to also say that as somebody who has
[02:05:40] witnessed a person doing Elden Ring and, you know, talk,
[02:05:43] listen to everybody talking about it, you know, all of that mess.
[02:05:48] Like it brings back that thing that used to exist
[02:05:51] way before the Internet where you would have like kids on the playground
[02:05:55] talking to each other about secrets and shit.
[02:05:57] Did you see that thing in that place in Elden Ring?
[02:05:59] And it's like, no, I never saw that thing.
[02:06:01] We'll go over there underneath this thing and then you'll find it, you know.
[02:06:06] And it's people were talking with each other being like,
[02:06:08] dude, have you fucking seen this place yet?
[02:06:10] Or like, no, fuck, I was there.
[02:06:12] And it's like, dude, you got to see this fucking boss is crazy.
[02:06:15] And it's like, but have you been to this place yet?
[02:06:17] It's like, no, I haven't been there yet.
[02:06:18] And it's like, yeah, that that was a crazy feeling.
[02:06:23] And I have not felt that replicated in decades.
[02:06:28] It was really, really special.
[02:06:30] There are very few games that I'll actually like
[02:06:33] play through and want to do everything because I don't maybe it's just
[02:06:38] maybe it's just my advanced age now, the advanced age of 33.
[02:06:41] You're in fact.
[02:06:42] Come on now.
[02:06:43] You were like a decade younger than me, dude.
[02:06:46] Yeah, dude, come on.
[02:06:47] It's calm down here a little bit.
[02:06:49] OK, there's sometimes
[02:06:51] like you're going to turn into a fucking cyborg or some shit.
[02:06:55] I wish, man.
[02:06:56] I wish there sometimes when I'm playing through a game
[02:06:59] and it's just like not hitting right.
[02:07:01] It's not hitting those.
[02:07:01] It's not tickling those jollies, but like some other games.
[02:07:05] All this kind of be like, like chop, chop, dude, quit fucking talking.
[02:07:08] Let's go. I want to go and finish this goddamn thing.
[02:07:10] But there are some games like Final Fantasy 9, like Earthbound,
[02:07:16] like fucking will throw steamroll heist into this steamroll heist.
[02:07:21] To cross, crono cross, like there are games like that where all just
[02:07:25] and it's not just nostalgia or like, I don't know what it is.
[02:07:30] Games like those, I don't know what it is about the games that I like
[02:07:34] and why I love them so much.
[02:07:35] I'll come back to them every so often and I'll be like, dude,
[02:07:37] I can only do everything in this game.
[02:07:39] Like crono cross, I'll go through maybe like four play throughs
[02:07:42] and collect every character and do every little side thing.
[02:07:45] Or I don't know where I'm going with this man.
[02:07:47] There are some games that I love doing everything
[02:07:52] possible in them, but like most games not.
[02:07:55] Yeah, that makes any sense.
[02:07:57] So if that's how I was with the ring, I wanted to do everything.
[02:08:01] I made sure that I beat every fucking boss in that game,
[02:08:04] optional or not.
[02:08:06] I mean, I made sure I fucking cleaned it all up.
[02:08:09] I wasn't interested in getting all the trophies or anything,
[02:08:11] but like just making sure like I've done all the things that you can do in this game.
[02:08:16] But like when it comes to
[02:08:18] I don't know, like a fucking Bethesda game where it's like,
[02:08:21] yeah, I'm not fucking doing everything in this.
[02:08:23] Yeah, or like an Ubisoft game or like like fucking Far Cry
[02:08:27] or like Sassans Creed or even like just for the sake of tossing more shit in here.
[02:08:34] Like like this creed or like like Forza Horizon and shit like that.
[02:08:39] Like I won't do everything in those but smaller games.
[02:08:43] I get like smaller games.
[02:08:46] So I'll yeah, once I get like I'll tell you what I'm close to the end.
[02:08:50] Yeah, those fucking Mario games.
[02:08:52] I would make goddamn well sure that I have completed 100 percent of a Mario game.
[02:09:00] It's funny though, because like whenever I have a game
[02:09:02] that's just not tickling my pickle, I stop.
[02:09:06] I'm like, I got too much backlog to even be bothering with this.
[02:09:09] I will not finish it.
[02:09:10] I will just set it down and I will be like, OK, next up,
[02:09:14] which of these other 700 games in my backlog do I need to touch
[02:09:18] and see which one is speaking to me at the moment?
[02:09:22] So do you find that you enjoy shorter games now?
[02:09:25] Oh, I love I have for years now been very, very much into Indies.
[02:09:30] But that's partially because you see the most creativity
[02:09:32] in these short little experiences that are.
[02:09:35] Hallelujah. Hallelujah.
[02:09:38] I'm tired of seeing these fucking hero shooters, man.
[02:09:40] I swear to God, like if I watch another award show,
[02:09:42] that's like check out this sizzle reel of fucking 14 new hero
[02:09:46] shooters that are going to fail.
[02:09:48] But the fucking corporation is going to be like, well,
[02:09:50] I guess it was just the consumers.
[02:09:52] They don't get it. Well, I'm tired of the third person shooters
[02:09:55] where you take cover and shoot and shit.
[02:09:58] I'm tired of Assassin's Creed.
[02:09:59] I'm tired of Far Cry.
[02:10:01] I'm tired of all that triple A shit.
[02:10:04] Like sometimes all a motherfucker wants to do
[02:10:07] is just 2D XCOM Steam World Heist over and over and over
[02:10:10] because I don't I hate myself.
[02:10:12] Well, and the thing, like I say, I mean,
[02:10:14] like you get some really weird blends of genres and stuff,
[02:10:17] especially when you have an indie because they don't have,
[02:10:20] you know, this whole the shareholders need us to make X amount of money.
[02:10:25] And, you know, like the shareholders, Jerry, the investors,
[02:10:29] all of us love some triple A games.
[02:10:31] And that's just how that goes.
[02:10:33] But there's certain ones, you know, but like with Indies,
[02:10:36] I'm more willing to throw them the few bucks that it takes.
[02:10:39] You know, when they're on sale to have this little experience
[02:10:42] and whether I enjoy it or not, I'm still appreciating the fact that, you know,
[02:10:46] like at least the money is going to people who aren't in essentially a sweatshop,
[02:10:50] you know, trying to do their thing.
[02:10:52] I mean, I don't know who made WUKAM.
[02:10:54] Oh, yeah, like I have not picked that game up specifically
[02:10:57] because I know how bad the working situation has been reported to be for that.
[02:11:05] But it's really good.
[02:11:07] Those kids made a really good game.
[02:11:10] But yeah, anyway, Indies short experiences.
[02:11:13] I my place on the level whenever I pop up as a rotating host is to talk about,
[02:11:19] you know, every once in a while some some triple A thing that I've been playing
[02:11:23] or whatever, a bigger game.
[02:11:24] But most of the time I am bringing to the table a bunch of random Indie shit
[02:11:28] nobody's heard of.
[02:11:29] And a lot of people, a lot of people love that because they're like,
[02:11:32] I would have never heard of this game if you didn't talk about it.
[02:11:34] Like on this week's level, I talk about a game called Scarlet Deer Inn,
[02:11:38] which all of the animations for that are hand embroidered before being scanned in.
[02:11:44] I've heard of this whole crazy looking and it's made by a check couple
[02:11:49] that are still in the middle of working on it, but the demo is out on steam.
[02:11:54] So I got one for you.
[02:11:56] I'm so typically known to know a few obscure little games.
[02:12:00] Have you heard of pseudo regalia?
[02:12:01] I have heard of it.
[02:12:03] I have not played it real good game real good.
[02:12:06] It's like a it's like a throwback to like PS one action platformers.
[02:12:10] Cool. And it's made by one person.
[02:12:14] Yeah, I saw the cover artists like this just looks is this a flash game?
[02:12:18] But then you start playing the game and you're like, oh, this is fucking tight.
[02:12:22] Tight. Right.
[02:12:26] Hell yeah, man.
[02:12:27] I think we have in the game.
[02:12:28] However, the subject of approach to games.
[02:12:33] Yeah, that's pretty much it.
[02:12:34] Yeah, we there's nothing left to talk about here.
[02:12:37] Nothing at all. One last thing.
[02:12:39] One final thing, I promise.
[02:12:41] Yeah, I guess I guess the reason why I enjoy my final thought.
[02:12:45] My final thoughts by Joe Pashie.
[02:12:49] I guess the reason I enjoy strategy RPGs and roguelike so much
[02:12:53] is because you feel like you accomplish so much and not a lot of time
[02:12:57] like strategy RPGs, you work your way through a battle battle, complete.
[02:13:01] OK, I'll pop it off and hop back on after a little bit
[02:13:05] or like wild frost, you complete one battle.
[02:13:08] Boom, I'll go make some fucking oatmeal and fuck off for 15 minutes
[02:13:11] and come back to it.
[02:13:13] I don't know. I love those kinds of games.
[02:13:15] Just accomplish something small, but it feels big and play shine for three.
[02:13:20] I'm working on it.
[02:13:22] I'm trying my my emprennick can barely handle them.
[02:13:25] I need to I need the beetle core.
[02:13:27] I need to put a new seven four man.
[02:13:30] You asshole, you have man.
[02:13:32] I know on your arms and I know for you.
[02:13:36] Oh, no, no, no, no.
[02:13:38] All the pressure. I know I do need to.
[02:13:55] Yes, listeners, that is it.
[02:13:56] That's the end of our show.
[02:13:58] Yeah, go please go listen to Jolli's shows.
[02:14:01] Holy shit, we'll have links to all that when this episode comes out.
[02:14:05] Go listen to Retro Rehab and Super Ghost radio.
[02:14:08] Those shows are great too.
[02:14:09] Just go look at the super pod network dot com.
[02:14:12] All sorts of cool shit there.
[02:14:13] We blog all the goddamn time.
[02:14:14] Please read my blogs and tell me I'm good.
[02:14:17] And thank you, thank you.
[02:14:20] Oh, yeah, that's it.
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[02:14:24] Everybody say bye.
[02:14:26] Ciao. Bye.
[02:14:28] OK, bye.