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I'm Brian Bashore, Professional walleye angler and owner of The Walleye Guys Guide service. I am here to reel you in with captivating stories, expert tips, and interviews with some of the biggest names in the fishing community. So, sit back, relax, and let the drag scream!
Brian Bashore (00:01)
Welcome back to another episode of Real Talk Fishing with No Limits brought to you by Seaguar High Performance Braids and 7 Reels, S-E-V-I-I-N Reels. Today, we're going to talk to Mercury Pro, Nitro Pro, Power Pole Pro, NWT Pro, and the host of the Next Byte TV show, Chase Parsons. Jason and are going to talk about tournament fishing, the NWT schedule, the upcoming NWT event to kick off the season on Lake Sharp out here in South Dakota.
Chase has been in this industry for a long time and doing this for 22 years He knows his stuff We're gonna talk about nitro boats mercury motors all those great things and why chase likes to make the long runs at all these tournaments So stay tuned you're gonna want to hear what chase has to say and we'll be diving in right after this brief message from cigar high-performance braids
Brian Bashore (00:01.548)
Hey folks, thanks for joining us for another episode of real talk fishing with no limits. Today we are joined by nitro power pole, Mercury pro and the host of the next bite TV series, chase Parson. What's going on over there? Big guy.
Chase Parsons (00:16.207)
you know, just getting prepped for the season, dumping the boat in here in about an hour and a half to make sure it floats before I head out to South Dakota. you know, a typical spring early tournament for a professional angler, I guess. It's that time, you know what I mean?
Brian Bashore (00:36.942)
Yeah, it is definitely go time and something to get in the toast. My old boat left yesterday. The new boats here sitting in the same boat in a sense. Got to get it on the water, make sure it floats, which is really never the issue. But there's so many components we put in these things. It's massive motors, all these electronics, these batteries. And it's like, it's inevitable. Something's probably not going to work or eventually we just need to troubleshoot it and get it figured out. But it's very nerve wracking that first time.
Chase Parsons (00:47.853)
Yeah.
Chase Parsons (01:02.294)
Yeah, it is. I mean, I guess like the only thing that kind of comforts me a little bit is I pretty much do all the wiring for the electronics and stuff in my boat. So I know how it's all wired. So if there's an issue with that stuff, it's my fault. And I know exactly. so like we were just talking right before we came out here, right. It's funny because it's like you look at it and it's like, well.
Brian Bashore (01:17.838)
I
Chase Parsons (01:28.43)
Yeah, hopefully everything works and it looks really good on the trailer. You said that like 20 minutes ago. It looks like everything's going to work, but I guess we'll see. So I want to make sure everything's, you know, working well before I guess I make the trip out there, even though there's some dealers if I need it. I'd like to I'd like to start fishing here in a day or two. That'd be the plan.
Brian Bashore (01:32.32)
It does.
Brian Bashore (01:51.73)
Yeah. Yep. You're going be a, and I are going to both be just the guys that are idling around a lot because we're breaking our boats in. So I was like, well, I'm going to break miles. just drive around and start scanning at least. Right. I mean, cover some water. So the good news is, uh, for those that are listening, we got Lake Sharp first ended in WT tournament coming up and we'll get into that in a little bit, but the, uh, yeah, we'll save some of that for later. The, so I have Tyler Hoopa from contour soda rig and rig mine. don't know electrical stuff.
Chase Parsons (01:56.525)
Yeah.
Chase Parsons (02:18.733)
Yeah. Yeah.
Brian Bashore (02:18.922)
I'm, it's inevitable now with the lithiums and all that. like, I'm going to fry something. I don't trust it. You know, and they put the, got the Garmin, the cracking on it and they installed that at the factory. Thank God. So he was able, they came in and from 7am to 7pm and knocked the whole thing out. and I watched him and I hope I was to watch him. if something does go wrong, you know, help him out. I know where it goes, but I was too busy getting the wrap off my boat, getting it clean, getting everything out. Cause the guy came and picked it up the next day. And I'm like, I didn't.
Chase Parsons (02:38.379)
There you go.
Brian Bashore (02:45.326)
Really get to see you guys do anything, even though I had both boats in the garage. Uh, but I kind of dug through, kind of walked me through it all. It looks good to go. can't imagine anything being wrong with it, but, uh, you know, we turn, you turn it, everything on every, like I said, looks great on the trailer. Everything's on. We're running side images, a little tricky. Cause I'm like, I see my garage floor. So I'm assuming that's, that's a good start.
Chase Parsons (03:05.528)
Yep, yep, yeah as long as you can't just see anything with some of the sonar stuff what it's in your garage, right? Like then you know if you hear the transducers clicking, you know that something's kind of working but
Brian Bashore (03:11.426)
Yep.
Brian Bashore (03:16.11)
Yep. Yep. We had our ears down to it and the live scope was looking at the garage door. I'm like, hear it. And they're like, all right, we're, we're good, man. You know, I got a couple of birds on it and and the scopes Garmin's up front. You probably are loaded with the Lorenz's I imagine, right?
Chase Parsons (03:28.031)
Yep, yep. Yeah all the rances four units and stuff, but I think it should be fine more than anything I just want to dump it in and and maybe have a little fun get part of part of the You know all the warm-up procedures and and breaking procedures started so when it comes game time we can go wide open, you know, I mean
Brian Bashore (03:48.526)
We can go and those 400 mercuries are gonna go wide open and there's no better place to rip them babies open than on the Missouri River.
Chase Parsons (03:57.618)
I agree with that. I'll go a step further. I don't think there's a better place to fish than on the Missouri River system. I love that stuff out there. You guys are pretty lucky to have that out there. Yeah, I mean, I'm right by Green Bay, which is good too, but I'll tell you what, that whole system out there is way on the top of my list. Always has been. Yeah, it's been good to me. Ironically, the sharp thing is a little interesting.
Brian Bashore (04:18.39)
It's been, it's been good to you.
Chase Parsons (04:26.75)
The last time I was at Sharp, was probably about eight or nine years old in the back of my old man's boat. I've never fished a tournament on Sharp, but all those reservoirs, they kind of just fit my style of fishing. They, not going to say they fish the same, but they're kind of similar in a way, right? So I'm excited. It'll be a good one.
Brian Bashore (04:27.04)
It is.
Brian Bashore (04:50.51)
Yeah, it should be. I was saying, we got, the weather's been pretty good. The whole Midwest is blowing like, and it's not just like a little, it's like 30 to 40 one day. And then we're flat calm the next day. And I just wrapped up a tournament and it was literally 75 and not a ripple at Chamberlain on Saturday and 40 mile an hour gusts on Sunday. know, same area, fish still there, caught them. Just had to mix up how you do it. But typically what you got at Sharp is the bad river is just like a couple miles up from the dam or down from the dam. And if you got some good snow melt or good rain, that thing's going to dump mud.
Chase Parsons (04:56.797)
Yeah. Yes.
Chase Parsons (05:15.593)
Yeah.
Brian Bashore (05:20.278)
Is this just a mud hole river bottom coming in and it goes right into it right past the bridges. And then you lose a large portion of the, of the reservoir. but it's pushing, there's really nothing coming out of it much. So that opens up the whole system for everybody. Otherwise everybody's you get pretty, you know, piled up above it. but it's fishing pretty good, I think a lot kind of like Chamberlain and this doesn't sound like it has. Chamberlain's got a good year class of those overs right now. Not the.
Chase Parsons (05:23.516)
Yep. Yep.
Chase Parsons (05:46.483)
Yeah.
Brian Bashore (05:48.526)
eight plus pounders, but those three to fives, you know, which are quality. you, know, those, you know, 20 to 22, especially if you get pre-spawns. Um, but we should have both. We should have some post and some pre-spawn. Um, I think the water is probably the mid upper forties. So, but sharp has got a lot more flats and sandbars kind of versus some of those.
Chase Parsons (05:51.52)
Yep.
Chase Parsons (06:03.357)
Yeah. Yeah.
That's what it looks like. I mean, I've done a little map research, right? But yeah, it definitely looks different than some of the other reservoirs as far as contours and things like that. But you know what? I don't care. It's the Missouri River system. I love it. I love it. So we'll find them somewhere and try to catch them. You know what I mean?
Brian Bashore (06:26.179)
Right.
You know?
Brian Bashore (06:33.262)
Yep. That's a, mean, the fisheries are healthy. There's a lot of them and there's just a lot of fish, whether you know the size, even on in Chamberlain, you know, numbers are good, but the fish are super healthy. They seem a little kind of, kind of like when the NWT was there, it's kind of, it's kind of fishing like that. Not quite the amount, abundant amount of fish, but the quality of fish, big females and like 18 inch males are two, you know, over two pounds of very real, real thick.
Chase Parsons (06:44.57)
Yeah.
Chase Parsons (06:58.108)
yeah, nice.
Brian Bashore (07:00.404)
And there's going to definitely be some smallies going up there on Sharp. A lot of smallies in there. But typical Missouri River, right? It's it's it's rigging, it's jigging, it's less lead core.
Chase Parsons (07:04.567)
Yeah, nice. Nice.
Chase Parsons (07:11.297)
Yep. Yep. I first thing I did was load up the lead core. And I mean, as you know, and as pretty much everyone knows that's watching this, seems like we're all on the bow of our boat looking at screens for the most part. But like I was joking, I talking to Tom Kemos yesterday as we're kind of packing our boats and trucks and stuff. and you know what, like.
Brian Bashore (07:24.13)
Yep.
Chase Parsons (07:34.885)
I understand that the scoping game or active target, whatever you want to call it, such a big thing, but Missouri River system, I'm going to have lead core in my boat until I die. You know what I mean? Like it's, I threw, I threw 12 rods in all lead core right at the bottom of the rod locker and I'm not using it. I mean, that's like, I love pulling lead core. It's one of my favorite things to do. And you know, honestly, all your lawn on those systems is it, it's, it's a great way to catch them. So.
Brian Bashore (07:51.938)
Yeah, me too.
Chase Parsons (08:04.325)
So I plan on doing a little bit of everything and just hoping when I get out there that it's not blowing 40 like you said it was last weekend in Chamberlain and, and cover some water and, try to find the right ones, you know.
Brian Bashore (08:17.144)
Yeah, think after tomorrow, a little bit on Friday, I think the weather looks pretty, pretty fair. We may have a day of rain or something, but 40s and 60s, I'm not seeing any massive wind, you know, a week out that'll, that'll definitely change. but, throwing lead on the rivers is, for pre-fishing. mean, there's no more effective, efficient way just to cover a bunch of water and find them.
Chase Parsons (08:33.304)
Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's the thing, right? Like that's, that's the thing why it's so good is you just cover, you cover ground, right? I mean, not that you're not covering ground when you're going three, four miles an hour scoping and stuff, but you can kind of like it. It also is nice to, you know, see what the area totally has to offer in terms of different size of fish. And one of the best ways to do it is trolling and it always will be to the end of time. So.
Brian Bashore (08:47.084)
COVID.
Chase Parsons (09:01.793)
Yeah, I got a lot of crankbaits loaded up in the boat, Brian. I'll tell you that much.
Brian Bashore (09:05.932)
It might be a little time for some money badger to shine.
Chase Parsons (09:09.706)
Hey, I got a couple boxes sitting right at the port side. Yep.
Brian Bashore (09:13.986)
I can't imagine you do, but it's always hard to beat a flicker, Chad and flicker metal. But that money badger, baby, that sucker's coming on strong. And I know some guys been casting them on the rocks too, for these pre-spawners and doing pretty well with them. So it is just, yeah, you just gotta have lead. It's so efficient. The Sunday tournament was blowing it about noon. picked up to where I couldn't scope. didn't, I just put the lithiums in the new boat. The old boat didn't have them. So I couldn't keep it going.
Chase Parsons (09:24.259)
Yep. Yep.
Chase Parsons (09:43.408)
Yeah.
Brian Bashore (09:43.626)
crank. Well then we started cranking and the first fish wasn't over. So you know and then I found a huge pod that we were off by like a quarter mile on our drift. We just needed to go further and went, well now we see him and then we just and we just made like five passes over him and it was white bass and walleye and it was nuts. So you know it's like this is pretty effective. it's hard to beat that tick you know that little thump on your jig but
Chase Parsons (09:46.72)
Yeah. Yep.
Chase Parsons (09:52.521)
Yep, there they are.
Chase Parsons (09:59.883)
Yep. Yep.
Yeah
Chase Parsons (10:08.353)
Oh, it's, still the most fun way for sure. But yeah, like I, you know, that's the thing I grew up, I grew up pulling lead core. mean, it was my favorite technique for a long, long time and I love catching them jigging, but, um, you know, we're going to be doing a little bit of both this week and we'll see what produces the best, right?
Brian Bashore (10:25.55)
Watching that lead that rod load up. That's what gets me. It is. I'm like, that's why I like pulling lead.
Chase Parsons (10:31.797)
the best thing ever. Like when the rod goes straight because it blows slack in it, like when it just straightens out and then it just goes like I love that. I'll always love that.
Brian Bashore (10:42.606)
Hmm.
Brian Bashore (10:46.188)
Yep. And you can pick it up and you're like, you know how big it is. You know, unless it's one of little 14s that hit it super hard, saw her and he's hooked sideways or in the top of the head. Right. yeah.
Chase Parsons (10:51.038)
Yup. Yup.
Chase Parsons (10:55.644)
It's sideways and then you get excited, then you get excited, right? You're like, yeah, here we go.
Brian Bashore (11:01.516)
can't even count the number of times I put the boat in neutral. You know, that was a 14th Sager. And you're like, seriously? on, The Sagers are aggressive. well let's backpedal a little bit. chase you on the next bite. So to those that been living under a rock and don't know who you are, just a little background information, info just on yourself, what you're doing, your family, what are you doing? You're not fishing besides go fishing.
Chase Parsons (11:04.862)
Yup. Yup. yeah.
Nope.
Chase Parsons (11:28.064)
Yeah, You know, guess you could probably say in the walleye world I grew up and maybe the best family you could have ever grown up and you know old man Gary Parsons uncles Keith Kavias the long time ago They started the next bite TV. Actually we are filming our 22nd year right now Brian that's pretty crazy to say that You know and and I was just one of those guys
Brian Bashore (11:49.015)
one second.
It is.
Chase Parsons (11:57.161)
through high school basically that when I figured out I wasn't gonna play professional golf, cause I wasn't good enough at that level, I decided I was gonna fish like my old man. so been doing this full time since I've been 20, I will be 42 years old in September. So I've been doing it a long time and.
Um, yeah, the show's going really well. Uh, we've added a couple of guys for those of you that are familiar with the next bite. see Corey Sprangle on it a lot. Tom Kemos, Jason Shakirit, uh, myself and my old man. So, um, we just like to have fun, like to teach people how to catch more fish. And, um, you know, it's, it's really a fun thing to do for a living. mean, you, you, you make a living in this industry. You do a lot of guiding. I don't do a lot of guiding, but boy, there's just different ways that.
we're allowed to make a living, be out on the water, have fun doing what we're doing. And that's definitely how I would categorize myself as I'm a pretty lucky guy to be able to make the fishing industry a living. you know, and hopefully that continues until I can't walk. You know what I mean?
Brian Bashore (13:08.256)
It's a, yeah, I hear you. The retirement plan is I'm like, there, there isn't one. It's just, I'm just going to, I'm just going to fish till I can't fish. And at that point I'm probably dead anyway. So they had a little, live thing with the fishing crew at our tournament at Chamberlain this weekend and had Gary Allen, Allen's guide service on there, who was the first original guide out here on Francis case and like 77, you know, and, and, and, Walter, Jason, Walter, Brian asked him, said, what, what's your exit plan? He was like, die.
Chase Parsons (13:36.4)
Yeah.
Brian Bashore (13:36.972)
When I die, he's like, running the motel. doesn't guide a whole lot, Mike, his son, and then they got a plethora of guys out there just crushing fish. He's like, I don't want to do anything else. I want to fish and hunt and tell I can't. And when I can't, then Mike will take it over. And he's like, and I'm at that point probably, you know, stuck in a wheelchair or I'm six feet under. He's like, or, you know, spread my ashes in the river, whatever it may be. So I'm like, like I hear you. As as our other halves agree with that concept, we can, we can make it happen.
Chase Parsons (13:41.905)
Yeah.
Chase Parsons (13:55.179)
Yeah.
Chase Parsons (13:58.993)
Yup.
Chase Parsons (14:05.404)
Yeah, yeah, I'm with you there. I'm pretty sure that my other half would probably in the next like, I don't know, 20 years prefer to move where it's a little bit warmer. But, but you know, I guess we'll see how it is. I don't know. I don't, I, I've never been one that's really planned for retirement. You know what I mean? No, no, no.
Brian Bashore (14:16.809)
makes two of us.
Brian Bashore (14:28.43)
Yep. Yep. And it's not easy because you're not getting super rich in this business by all means, you know, no, it's a, it's a grind. It's a hell. that's why we're doing things like podcast and TV shows guiding. And then you throw it all in on these tournaments. And if you don't have, you know, a couple of top tens, you pretty well kind of lost your ass that year, you know, and, that ain't easy to get a couple of those a year. So.
Chase Parsons (14:49.081)
Yep. No, it's not. mean, I laughed at it because last year is like, I think I ended up 12th overall. So when you look at it, not a bad year. I never cashed a check, Brian. I was like, I was like 34th place in basically every tournament. seemed like so. Yeah, my average was fine, but like, yeah, I'm hoping this year goes a little bit better. You know, maybe kick off the season in 21.
Brian Bashore (15:02.83)
I I was gonna say you could end up in the top 10 and never have caught a chest.
Brian Bashore (15:09.752)
Yep.
Chase Parsons (15:18.586)
I had a good kickoff of the season in the NWT on the Missouri River system. So boy, that would be pretty sweet if I could do that again, but that, you know, I don't know.
Brian Bashore (15:20.278)
Well, yes you did.
Brian Bashore (15:28.282)
you can get second. We'll trade places. I think I got 10th that time. You got first. Let's let's Why would we come out with something right? I mean, Hey, we're always, we all want to win. That's the name of the game.
Chase Parsons (15:31.008)
okay. Okay. Okay. All right. That'd be fine. excited. Yep. Yep. No, it's, it's exciting. Get another year rolling and I'm just excited to get out there and do some fishing because I really haven't done any of it at all this spring yet. So it's, it's time.
Brian Bashore (15:42.158)
Have a great
Brian Bashore (15:53.07)
It is, it's a, it's good. bites have been good and hopefully sharp, you know, takes off. talked to Heiser the other day. ran, lot of those guys are in town for the Shields Fishing University going on right now out in Chamberlain. so, so I came in day early to break their boat in the same thing. I'm going to break it in miles of drive around sharp and do a little scanning. Cause it's only about an hour north, you know, or west of, of Chamberlain there. So like said, yeah, goes fishing was surprisingly pretty good and got into small mouth as well. So.
Chase Parsons (16:02.072)
Yep. Yep.
Brian Bashore (16:20.396)
Yeah, it'll be fun. know some guys are already heading that way, getting there early and just because they got the bug, they're ready to go. And the whole, a lot of guys like yourself, just, we just got these boats. We haven't even had them on the water yet. So coming a day or two early to, to adjust is not a idea. golf, said you sucked at golf so you didn't go that way. According to Kemos and guys that have been on here just jabbing you, you know, about chasing his golf, but I would say you're far from sucking. So.
Chase Parsons (16:26.519)
Yeah.
Chase Parsons (16:30.489)
Yeah.
Chase Parsons (16:42.073)
You
Brian Bashore (16:48.598)
I think there was, you may be sad to my other hurdles and the other set you back, but you had a pretty luxurious golf career going there.
Chase Parsons (16:55.39)
Yeah, I I don't know if I'd call it a career but I can still play Brian I I hear it. Here's how I would here's how I would say it is Yeah, I like I do like top go go Yeah, here's here's here's what I would say is I would welcome anyone on the wall I toured
Brian Bashore (17:05.198)
Top golf don't I know you do.
Chase Parsons (17:17.761)
I'd be willing to put money on myself and on my golf game against anyone on the walleye tour. So there's that.
Brian Bashore (17:24.878)
I'd give you my- I'd put my money on you too, because I- I'd put myself as the last. I... Suck.
Chase Parsons (17:28.779)
Now, you gotta straight this out a little bit. You mentioned Quimos. Quimos has been one of my best buddies for 15 plus years, whatever. Did he honestly say I wasn't good at golf? Because he's terrible. Like, he is terrible.
Brian Bashore (17:35.17)
Yeah.
Brian Bashore (17:44.064)
Nah, somebody jabbed you. I know he was on, maybe it Jason and somebody else, but he might not say he sucked, but I know, you know, there were some jabs going on about, you know, Chase's golf game.
Chase Parsons (17:48.119)
Oh, Christ, you care.
Chase Parsons (17:52.567)
It was probably Shakira, you know, he plays like six times a week and he just gets upset. I play six times a year and he still has no chance.
Brian Bashore (18:06.434)
You know, I built my previous house in Nebraska on a golf course and I'd go to the driving range and I live houses on each side of me where the guys that were one was a golf pro from Florida and he moved back home to the small town. The other one ran the country club on insurance. I mean, these guys are, you know, sticks in their own mind with the clubs and tried to get me to join the league night stuff. like, I can't, I suck at the driving range, man. When I hit it, when I, when I hit it. like one out of five or 10, when I hit it, it's gone and it's straight.
Chase Parsons (18:19.162)
Yeah.
Chase Parsons (18:25.098)
Yeah.
Chase Parsons (18:29.824)
Yeah
Chase Parsons (18:34.922)
Yeah.
Brian Bashore (18:36.238)
There's no slash or hook. said, the other nine, I don't even hit. just miss. got it's all grass or all air. You know, and it's like.
Chase Parsons (18:40.31)
Yeah, it's one of those sports that definitely should in your mind, it seems like it should be a lot easier than what it is, right? Like the ball doesn't move. I mean, it just sits there like you should just you should just be able to hit it forward, right? But no, it's good. There are it's it's funny because there are a lot of a lot of the anglers throughout the years I've played a lot of golf with and everyone seems to like golf. It's one of those sports where
Brian Bashore (18:50.744)
Yeah. Right. T-ball.
Chase Parsons (19:09.405)
I think it's just a lifetime sport, right? So like you end up, I've played with a lot of the dudes on tour, a couple of them, I'm trying to think. I've heard there's a couple of pretty good golfers. know Jake Coffey has been chirping me a little bit the last year or two about getting on the course. Which is weird because he's only one of the only dudes on tour that I'm taller than. So I guarantee that.
Brian Bashore (19:26.434)
Really?
Brian Bashore (19:35.362)
Yeah, no doubt.
Chase Parsons (19:37.716)
You know what I mean? So like I guarantee I hit it past them. So I'm not too worried about that. But no, it's all good, man. Right. Like that's what it's all about. It's just the camaraderie with the guys on tour and stuff. And I've made a lot of really good friendships. And, know, you and I have talked a lot throughout the years. And it's that's more than anything. My excitement is just getting back, seeing the guys getting out on the water, trying to attack a system that honestly I really haven't been on in Sharp.
And yeah, just like you said, the jabs and stuff like that. I mean, you can imagine like my roommates are Kemos, Sprangle and Tom Nguyen. So every night in our house, there's some fun things that happen, some talking that goes on.
Brian Bashore (20:25.408)
I can only imagine it. And I'm sure you guys are like just littering Tom's mind with horrible stuff because he's like, what the hell?
Chase Parsons (20:35.503)
Yeah, like I'm actually a little bit surprised. So last year was the first year that we traveled with Tom Nguyen. If you follow Wildlife Fishing, you know who Tom Nguyen is now, right? The guy's incredible. Incredible angler, but an even better person. mean, know, Kemos and Sprengel and I say some stuff that probably is pretty alarming for the average person.
Brian Bashore (20:46.914)
Yeah. Great, great, great dude.
Chase Parsons (21:04.894)
And I'm surprised, obviously, obviously Tom likes it because he's he's traveling with us again this year. yeah, it's a it's a pretty diverse group of guys for sure. And we have fun and yeah, we get to hang out again this whole season. And I'm sure that we'll probably continue to gotten to be all really good friends and have some fun when we're traveling.
Brian Bashore (21:11.757)
Yep.
Brian Bashore (21:29.774)
Well, that is, mean, obviously all want to win some money and do more than even break even at the end of the season, but it's the camaraderie and I've had Co's message and they're like, well, they asked a bunch of questions about getting in and what to expect. I'm like, what if I draw a sew-in? So I'm like, it doesn't matter. I'm like, every, all these dudes, everybody's, they're all great guys. mean, 90 % of them, you're not going to have any, any, any problems with, or nothing like that. I'm like, it's just, that's like, they're all good. They're all just good people, good stuff. But I'm like, it's.
Chase Parsons (21:53.7)
Yeah.
Brian Bashore (21:58.712)
Some of us it's their job. Don't take anything personal. know, there it's, it's, it's, it's go time. and like I said, Tom, there's all sorts of different perceptions on the team stuff and all that, but the camaraderie aspect of it and just with the expense saving, right. Of sharing a house and, who's cooking or if, you know, and then obviously the information thing is can, can be huge, but.
Chase Parsons (22:15.842)
Yeah.
Brian Bashore (22:21.676)
I seem like there seems to be less of that nowadays with, don't know, maybe because of scoping or just if you've been to these places so many times, you kind of, you got to, you got a pretty good feel for it. Plus social media, the everything and the world's out there we don't have the bass rules with the no info. but Tom is a smart move by joining you guys to learn the, you know, the, the old fundamentals of walleye fishing since he's kind of new to the walleye from the bass world.
Chase Parsons (22:35.544)
Yep.
Chase Parsons (22:45.289)
Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I would say like for him, that was one of the things, right? The three of us have a lot of experience on the different bodies of water. We can get him in the right areas, if you will, where he would have known those areas. And let's just face it, when it comes down to fishing with forward facing sonar, I will not put anyone.
Brian Bashore (23:11.33)
It's tough to beat.
Chase Parsons (23:12.802)
I don't care. I don't care. Wildlife basket. I don't care. I just won't put anyone ahead of him because I've seen it. I fished with him a lot and he's incredible at that stuff. like, which is kind of funny. There's almost like always in pre-fish for us, there's like a tournament within our group against each other because if we're right, if we go out there, even a pre-fish date, if we have a better day than Tom using forward facing sonar, you kind of just like, yes, like yes.
Brian Bashore (23:30.038)
Right.
Brian Bashore (23:38.894)
Yeah, I got it. Well, that's what it is. It's confidence. And that guy's he's got so much confidence in that the fact that he just carries a box of jigs and car or crawlers, you know, it's like, is it.
Chase Parsons (23:41.472)
Like I could do this, right? but it started long, but.
Chase Parsons (23:54.251)
That's what I was gonna say because I love the guy, awesome guy. like, sprang all the kibos myself, we're getting tied up the night before the tournament and we're spending hours, right? Trolling rods, different jigging rods, all this stuff, like getting 15 different new boxes of baits that we want to set up. And Tom Wynn goes to his boat and he re-schools.
two rods and he has one box of jigs and he'll come walking back past us in like five minutes and he'll be like, I'm ready. don't know. It's, it's funny, but yeah, it's what he does. But yeah, like I just more so looking forward to, you know, I, and the one thing is being that we travel with him, like he, you, you listen to him, right? Like, and how he talks about
Brian Bashore (24:29.934)
Yep.
Chase Parsons (24:51.328)
the forward-facing thing. And I would say I'm decent at it. I'm not fantastic at it, but everything you get from that guy, just knowledge will make you better. And like I said, I've just been lucky that I've been in the boat with them many times now and see what it can do for you. And I'm still not as good as he is at it, but I'm working on it, Brian. You know what I mean? Like I got time, I got time.
Brian Bashore (25:17.07)
I hear you. yeah, I, I spent all last year on that thing and I had the worst year of two or ever, I got it and I'd get done and I go back out and that's it. just lived on it and then I did it and I even had a coat once it's like, you just getting into this stuff. I'm like, yeah, I went from, know, this other version that wasn't that great to this one. I'm like, well, this is a whole different game now, you know, and he's like, you're pretty good at it. I'm like, really? We only got one fish in a box, but you know, but he could tell that to me, it's really about boat position.
Chase Parsons (25:37.563)
Yeah. Yeah.
Brian Bashore (25:46.604)
boat control and maneuvering is the huge key to it. And yeah, and you know, having those control motor cranked with that lithium power to, know, to keep you on it. And mean, Tom's like, I watched the fish for four hours. I'm like, man, if I got four seconds on it, that was pretty good. Like how did you watch it for four hours? But yeah, it's, good. Everybody's getting better.
Chase Parsons (25:46.975)
100 % Yep, yep.
Chase Parsons (26:01.842)
Yeah.
Yeah, like you said, it's the bulk control thing, right? The guys who live and die by it, right? Like, it does not matter what the conditions are. They're very comfortable staying on a fish in four footers or whatever on the bow mountain. And I know there's a lot of people probably watching that are like, well, I can do that. Well, I'm telling you, if you haven't done it your whole life, you can't do it. Like, it's not an easy thing to do. So.
It's a ball control thing and the more that the more that everyone works on it the better the better everyone's gonna get You know and and we probably need to let's face it the guys were super good at it dominated last year and And I want to be one of those guys that's no, that's all good I'm not against it at all. I mean, I know they're
Brian Bashore (26:48.742)
Right, they're gonna dominate again. So it's either get with it or get out. So Yep
Chase Parsons (26:58.353)
That's like the hot topic in the fishing industry, right? Like I stay away from that stuff. Technology is technology. know, everyone was mad when GPS systems came out where you could drop waypoints and things like, like every step along the way, there were people that were upset about technology. So it is what it is. We better learn how to use it better. Otherwise we're going to be going to a lot of tournaments and donating money. You know what I mean?
Brian Bashore (26:59.854)
Yeah.
Brian Bashore (27:24.672)
Yep. Yep. It's time that let's just, we just accept it. This is the game. Let's move on and quit having these stupid discussions about banning it and removing it. Bass world's making their movements and they'll see how it works out. But you've seen some of these recent term is early season bass that guys are doing real good without it. You know? So I think NPFL kicked off today, but it's always, everything's always changing. It's having flow. It's just the way it is. And, if you're not going to get with it, then you're, you're, you're donating and.
Chase Parsons (27:32.465)
Correct.
Chase Parsons (27:41.201)
Yep. Yep.
Brian Bashore (27:54.574)
You and you can still be in that check range, but you're not going be in the top. You're not going be in the top 10. know, let's maybe miss it to river. So.
Chase Parsons (27:57.158)
yeah.
Yeah, no, I would agree with that. I would agree with that. Yeah, I mean, it's still in certain systems, right? I think we'll see. Yeah, we'll see where guys do well without it for sure throughout the years here and there. But yeah, I'm with you. Like if you are not a good forward facing guy, it is super hard to be in the top 10 in almost any tournament right now. Incredibly hard. So it is what it is. Move on. Get better at it.
You know, it's, I'll tell you what, like last year I'd say was the first year that I really got after it. Kind of like you said, right? I think a lot of us last year was the year where we all just realized, Hey, we got to all get better at this. The guys that are good at it are always in the top five and that's the stop. That's it's got to stop happening. So, you know, it should be a fun year. Cause I think that
Brian Bashore (28:47.822)
taking all our money man right
Chase Parsons (28:56.835)
Like said, it's not just you and I, Brian. think there was 50 other guys that really focused on it over the last year to try to get better at it. And you can see some of those names that started doing real well end of the year using it. Yeah, Jake. Yeah, I mean, exactly. So should be a fun year. Schedule looks, I don't know. All right, we're traveling all over the place.
Brian Bashore (29:10.668)
J.K.I.
Brian Bashore (29:22.038)
It looks alright.
Chase Parsons (29:25.784)
I'm not wrong, right? It looks alright. But you know what? I've fished some really tough bites throughout the years too and I think at least we're gonna have some probably pretty good bites, right? We should be catching fish and that keeps it fun, keeps it interesting.
Brian Bashore (29:27.51)
No, no, you're not.
Brian Bashore (29:47.822)
It does, does indeed. Um, let me go back to the next by 22 years. That's not too heard of in the industry for shows to even be on that long. So that's a, that's pretty remarkable feat there.
Chase Parsons (29:52.704)
Yeah!
Chase Parsons (30:00.825)
Yeah, think, you know, I think one of the things that's allowed us to stay around as long as we have is just we're, we're a teaching show, right? Like every tech, we're, we're a technique specific. We're not, okay, this is the rod you got to use. Uh, cause it's awesome. Right? Like it's more so techniques catching more fish, uh, helping, helping people just catch more fish. And that, that still will always resonate in the fishing industry as long as
I'm alive, right? Like if you can teach people how to catch more fish and do it the right way and be honest, right? Like that's one of the things credibility has been number one for us throughout all the years. And that's an important thing to stay around in this industry as you well know. So yeah, it's been a fun ride and I'm not looking at ending it anytime soon.
Brian Bashore (30:42.125)
Yeah.
Brian Bashore (30:55.47)
It's good because there's no retirement plans. So keep going. Keep cranking them out. So we, so we're kicking off this thing next week. We go to Lake Sharp. Uh, any thoughts on that? What do you think it's going to take? Or, mean, you haven't been there since you're a little boy, but.
Chase Parsons (30:58.416)
Yeah! Yup.
Chase Parsons (31:11.543)
Honestly, no idea as far as weight goes. Like I've looked at some of the past tournaments that have been on it and things. I guess I'm going to judge it based more on, you know, the overs I catch in practice, how big they are. So I couldn't even tell you what I think for weight it's going to be, to be honest. You'd have a better idea knowing it probably more than I do. I don't know. I got to imagine you're going to need those 23 to 26 inches each day.
and then good, good unders, right? Like I, that's what I would guess. I have no idea.
Brian Bashore (31:46.926)
I would say that's, if you get those, you should win. it's not the guys that live there tell me it's not putting out the big fish, but I mean, if you look at old results like MWC, when we were there in like 2015 or something, I think there was three, 30 inches caught on the first day. And I caught one. Right. I, and one, one fish and I caught one or we caught one, the day before the tournament.
Chase Parsons (31:50.419)
Okay, yeah.
Chase Parsons (32:01.642)
Yeah, I saw that. Yep, and all those guys were in the top four, right, with one fish basically. Yep.
Brian Bashore (32:14.762)
know, and course did catch it. You know, of course you catch it the day before, you know, but, but I don't think they got them so much on the second day. It was a little earlier, first April, half the lake still had ice on it, but it sounds like kind of that year class isn't there, but if, if they are, it's like Chamberlain, but the way these systems work. Okay. You got a 15, 20 pound bag on day one. Great. I'm always like, I don't, I'm not worried about that guy at first, cause he's not going to do that on day two. You know, we just saw that last week and here are 16 pounds day one.
Chase Parsons (32:17.34)
Yeah.
Brian Bashore (32:44.142)
second place eight pounds day two. You know, when you catch an eight pounder, you know, it's kind of yours to lose. Um, but not to say it can't happen. So, but those fish are moving there, you know, just cause you caught them here. All right. That tomorrow they're all gone. It's the river or just they're out. So, don't know. I would say, think you can get.
Chase Parsons (32:59.181)
Yep. That's what I like. That's what I love about that stuff out there though, right? Like it's tough to stay consistent and that's always been something, especially this time of year, but in the summer too, right? Like those fish move so much on that system that it's almost like pre-fishing every day, right? You're going pre-fishing basically. You have an idea in your mind, but...
Brian Bashore (33:05.292)
Yep, keep turning toes.
Chase Parsons (33:25.064)
Gosh, like talk about Oahe, talk about Chamberlain. Like how many times have you went, Brian, tournament day and it felt like you had a really good plan and go to this area where you've been just wailing on fish and they are just flat out gone. Like it happens a lot on that system, which is one of the things that I feel like that's probably why I like it. I think it's a big time challenge for anglers to stay on top of fish and
Brian Bashore (33:42.093)
Yup.
Chase Parsons (33:53.81)
Yeah, I'm looking forward to it. But yeah, like you said, I I guess I saw those big fish in that that were weighed in that tournament years ago and stuff. And that's kind of a fluke thing, right? Like you can see that in a second. So yeah, like it'd be sweet if you and I day one would each go catch a nine pounder. That'd be friggin awesome. But yeah, but it's like I think.
Brian Bashore (34:12.566)
Yeah, I mean, it's that it's yours to lose really, you know, at that point or.
Chase Parsons (34:17.651)
Like typical tournaments, know, lot is different because there's so many big fish in there now, but you just you got to make sure you get your two decent overs and catch some big unders like that's always the goal on any of those systems. Right. Like it is, you know, a lot. You know, you want to nine pounders. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But but everything, everything's not a lot. So.
Brian Bashore (34:36.076)
Yeah, why you don't even go for unders you just go I need my two overs and that's it doesn't I can win on two fish for 20 pounds, know, right
No. No.
Chase Parsons (34:47.152)
Yeah, just, I enjoy it. I've always enjoyed the slots out there. I've always thought it's a challenge and yeah, I'm just hoping that I can go out there day one and slop into one of those 30 inches you were just talking about.
Brian Bashore (35:00.11)
Yeah. Well, I mean, for as healthy as these fisheries are, you know, they're there. You can't produce this many fish without having a handful of these big ones, you know? And then a lot of people just, they're not targeted. I'm like, we are. Cause you hear things like even when we went to Mississippi river last year, the locals also fights. I don't know what happened. It was great. And then it just went to crap. I'm like, well, and then we all showed up and we're like, I was like right away. I'm like, I just buy looks pretty good to me, you know, but we're fishing different.
Chase Parsons (35:04.4)
Yep.
Chase Parsons (35:23.461)
Yeah. Yep. Yep.
Brian Bashore (35:26.05)
You know, we're hunting and looking and I've never been there. So we don't have memories to go off. We're not just going to our local hole and it's not going. And we just say, well, they're just, they're gone or it's just done. All right. We're flying all over, checking new spots and it's, know, outsiders coming into the local thing. A lot times open their eyes to things that they're like, I've never tried that in 20 years. like, yeah, you've been missing out. These fish have been in three foot of water in these weeds forever. know,
Chase Parsons (35:39.574)
Yup.
Chase Parsons (35:51.308)
Yeah, well, right, it's one of those things and I've done this. This is this is my 22nd year fishing the circuit. And I mean, I have lived through a lot of very, very tough bites, like terrible bites, right in tournaments. But I'll tell you what, Brian, every single tournament, there's a couple of guys that catch them.
So like, you can think it's as bad as you want to think it is, but believe me, there's five guys that are catching them perfectly fine, even in really tough bites. So it's just one of those things that you just got to be prepared for. Like I remember my rookie year, Milford, late, PWT champion. Yup. I took second in it. I zeroed day two. Like it was so, like I think three quarters of the field zeroed all three days. Like it was horrible.
Brian Bashore (36:12.034)
Yep. Yep.
Brian Bashore (36:22.925)
Yep.
Brian Bashore (36:30.708)
yeah, yep. Love that like.
Chase Parsons (36:41.326)
But Dave Anderson, rest his soul, good guy, was buddies with him back then. He won the thing. He had his limit every day. In a bite where you didn't think he could catch a single walleye, right? So, boy, and anyone, any one of the guys on the tour, they're super good anglers. And obviously a lot of these places we go, we have some of the best locals that hop in too. They know what they're doing, right? So you can't...
Brian Bashore (36:51.95)
All right.
Brian Bashore (37:05.208)
Nope.
Chase Parsons (37:09.463)
You can't miss a beat with these guys, I'll tell you that much because you're going to be looking up at a lot of names ahead of you in the leaderboard if you just take it and say, this is a tough one. We'll just try to go out there and catch one or two fish.
Brian Bashore (37:21.346)
Yep.
It's sound I haven't heard, of too many locals getting in this one. know Harry Decker and his brother are, and they got second last week at chairman and he's a stick and they live right on there. So you can expect to see his name up there. but I remember that years ago, travel Takasaki and he just said that they're always biting somewhere, you know, so we just got to figure out where there's always a fish biting somewhere. And if it's not where you're at, that that's obviously not the right place to keep looking. And then, your dad and I were talking about it once that I'm like, you know, I used.
Chase Parsons (37:41.592)
Yup.
Chase Parsons (37:45.176)
Yup.
Chase Parsons (37:49.325)
Yup.
Brian Bashore (37:53.652)
Used to hate those because practices, sucks. It's not fun. I want to least catch some fish, right? It's kind like having a week of just crap weather. Like it takes a lot of the fun out of it. And you're spending this kind of money. You want to at least enjoy the time, whether you're doing well in the tournament or not. But over the years, I'm like, I don't, I don't hate a tough bite.
Chase Parsons (38:01.505)
Yup. They're the easiest ones to Yeah, like, like, like, the-
Brian Bashore (38:12.94)
Right. I think that is why, cause I'm like, I caught a couple, three fish today and all of sudden your confidence is good because you're like, is this Doc Talk? But you can, we can read and a lot of the walleye guys are kind of pretty straight shooters. Like, no man, this just sucks. You know, but I'm like,
Chase Parsons (38:18.562)
Yeah.
Chase Parsons (38:25.057)
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think for the most part, the guys are honest and I've been in it long enough that the guys that aren't honest, know I can read them pretty well too, right? Like you learned how to read these guys pretty well throughout the years for sure.
Brian Bashore (38:38.264)
Yeah.
Yep. Yeah. You kind of know who's I got to text my boot wrap guy back quick on a font. All right. He's good. Yeah. There's no doubt. I mean, there's, there's always doc talk and there always will be, but you know, there's guys like Tom, you're just like, whatever. know exactly what you're doing. So it doesn't, I don't have to guess, you know, it's, it's just not to do it, but well then we're hitting some new waters over hitting the lacrosse. Of course we have full seven, eight, nine, and we fished in, know,
Chase Parsons (38:51.541)
Later.
Chase Parsons (38:58.346)
Yeah. Yeah.
Brian Bashore (39:07.182)
and nine plenty and that's been good over the years. that that'll be interesting. I'm only fishing those two this year and I think Randy's is beneficial across at this point. We'll see where the numbers are for all the people getting in. sounds like there may be a little low on this first one, but.
Chase Parsons (39:12.786)
Yeah.
Chase Parsons (39:21.516)
I haven't heard anything in the fri- I expect sharp- we gotta be around 100 I would think for sharp.
Brian Bashore (39:27.458)
Yeah, I think we're give or take, yeah, give or take five up or down around a hundred. So it's what it's looking like. So, you know, and lacrosse, Mississippi river. love it. I love rivers. I think you love the rivers. That one's obviously not like the Missouri, but.
Chase Parsons (39:31.296)
Yeah.
Chase Parsons (39:39.02)
You can, you know what, Brian? You can have the Mississippi River. It's all yours. Like, it's ironic because Missouri River system, my favorite system on the planet to fish well ice. Mississippi River system, opposite end of the spectrum. is my least favorite. I've never, you know, and I just haven't worked on it, right? Like I don't travel over there and.
Brian Bashore (39:45.055)
I'll it. I'll take it.
Chase Parsons (40:05.767)
I guess figure out how to be better on a system like that, but I have just really struggled throughout the years on the Mississippi River. So that's one of them. Out of all of them, probably the one that I'm looking forward to the least, honestly. Yeah.
Brian Bashore (40:22.524)
would be the opposite of that. like, haven't necessarily done great in a tournament on them, but we found them. We've been on her. A teammate did well. Randy's done well on them. I think the key is obviously you got the Mississippi's ripping, man. That thing's, know, it's going and it's a, know, where I guide on Lewis and Clark, the whole 30 miles of it is a lot more like the Mississippi where it's the shoots and sandbars and sprinkle knows about it a little bit. guess Carl's been, they've been duck cutting up in there. So we get a little more experience on it and it is weird.
Chase Parsons (40:28.713)
Yeah. Yep.
Chase Parsons (40:42.559)
Yeah.
Brian Bashore (40:49.314)
You're fishing places that are, don't think of typical walleye fishing, you know, and, just a, some pretty shallow or some current that's kind of ripping, know, and if you can find that little pocket, it's, it's loaded with them. but, but once again, they're there one day and they're gone the next. And even you can just watch it move in and watch it move out while you're there and it's cruising. But I don't know. I like rivers. The scenery at the rivers is especially the Mississippi is, you know, second to none.
Chase Parsons (40:53.63)
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I would agree with that. And for the most part, not that the Mississippi can't get rough. It surely can, but like
It's not Huron like we're going to. It's not Dunkirk on the east side of Erie. So it's ironic. I kind of laugh about it thinking back because when I was 25, 30 even, I loved rough water. I felt like I had a huge advantage. That didn't bother me. I could take a beating. I had no issues making a long run in rough water.
Brian Bashore (41:25.985)
Yeah.
Brian Bashore (41:32.461)
Yeah.
Chase Parsons (41:51.561)
It's probably a little early for me to say this but being 41 I hate your off-water
Brian Bashore (41:57.562)
you know, you said your, your wife and mine both would like to move somewhere warmer. I just want to go where there's no wind. So that means South. I'm like, I'm it's the one driving factor that'll get me out of the state is I'm just, it's, you when you spend every day out in it and you're on the water and you're guiding it, it just makes everything 10 times more difficult. And it can make the fishing good, but it's like, this is a lot of effort, man. This is fishing.
Chase Parsons (42:04.538)
Yeah, like I just
Chase Parsons (42:12.071)
Yeah.
Chase Parsons (42:17.832)
Yeah, it really is. But yeah, it's kind of funny how I flipped it not too long a time because it was just I always was hoping it would blow like crazy during tournament days. And now I'm just like, you know what? Give me a flat, calm day. I know the fishing is going to be tougher, but it's going to be tougher for everyone. But at least it's going to be nice out. Yeah.
Brian Bashore (42:37.152)
Yep. Yep. At least it's comfortable and this is a good time. Yeah. Well, you're pretty notorious for making those long runs and, you, know, where's Chase going? I'm like as far away from the boat dock as he can. That's where he's going.
Chase Parsons (42:46.937)
Yeah, try not to. I try not to. I try not to. But yeah, like, I don't know. I'm going to, you know what? I'm going to blame that on Kemos actually. You know, because usually if there's two guys, the furthest two guys away from the takeoff, a lot of times are Kemos and I. And I'm going to blame him for that because
Brian Bashore (43:01.324)
Yeah, he's with ya.
Brian Bashore (43:11.788)
Yep, yes they are.
Chase Parsons (43:16.602)
he came to turn me into that, guess. And, it is what it is. I don't mind making long runs. And the beauty about that, Brian is, you know, a lot of times you can get away and kind of fish by yourself, which is a huge, huge thing and, and can make a big difference. But like I look at last year, like I was blown away by how many guys went up to big Bay on green Bay, like blown away. were 40, 50 guys that were.
making a 90 mile run across Green Bay and I didn't even make it. Like I wasn't one of the guys, right? Usually I'm the idiot that's going 90 miles or a hundred miles and that one I wasn't. And I think it's just a testament to like the equipment that everyone has now, right? The boats are so much better. Like the motors, all of our boats are faster so you can get there quicker.
Brian Bashore (43:47.47)
Right.
Chase Parsons (44:07.361)
all the electronic mounts. Like you don't worry as much as what you used to about just blowing everything off of your boat. It's still very possible. Don't get me wrong, but the boats run so well right now that those runs are not as bad as what I guess they used to be, right?
Brian Bashore (44:24.396)
Yep, and that's a great place. We're to take a quick commercial break brought to you by Rufflin Kennels, creators of Clean Cut Boards. And we'll get right back and talk about these boats and motors that make Chase go 100 miles away from the launch.
Chase Parsons (44:36.664)
Yeah.
Brian Bashore (44:38.636)
All right, now we go into the nitro boats and marker motors. All right, we're back folks. And you're right, Chase, these boats, the new, I mean, what do you got? Was this 80 gallon fuel tank in the new ZV-21?
Chase Parsons (44:50.404)
Yeah, you get 83 and actually if you if you squeeze out that I can usually get about 84 and half gallons
Brian Bashore (44:58.446)
Granted that's four or $500 at the pump, but at least you don't have to fill up. And now we don't have to worry about getting gas. And that takes a lot of it out of it. You know, the concerns of running or not and the time spent getting fuel, if you can get fuel, which a lot of times the Missouri river is not an option. So, uh, but you know, they're bigger, they're heavier. got these monster V10. It's like, there's no, there's no reason not to do it anymore.
Chase Parsons (45:06.198)
If it does.
Chase Parsons (45:14.753)
Yeah. Yeah.
Chase Parsons (45:23.715)
Yeah, no, I mean, you're right. Like, uh, you know, and luckily pretty much my whole career, like I've been in a 20 or 21 foot glass boat for the most part. Um, and so I've always had good running boats, but yeah, like the boats now, I mean, there's so many 21, 22 footers. They span the waves so well. They're fast. Like you said, if you're in conditions where you can run, a lot of these boats are pushing 70 miles an hour now.
You know, which is insane for a big deep V boat to go that fast But we cover we cover a lot of water really quick and get to spots. So for me the long run thing has always been Just getting away from the packs right like when I won Chamberlain in 21 Ironically Kemos and I were the furthest two away from the
Brian Bashore (45:53.997)
I know it.
Chase Parsons (46:15.788)
took first and second in it. And I just kind of relate that to we weren't fishing in the packs. A lot of guys did really well. You did real well up north. A lot of guys did well. But right, like we weren't fishing as many fish because the majority of fish were obviously in the north part of that reservoir. But we weren't fighting other boats to catch the fish that we had accessible to us. And there were some big ones down there.
Brian Bashore (46:25.804)
It was a pack. That was a big pack.
Chase Parsons (46:44.428)
It doesn't always work out like that, believe me, and you know it as well. I've made a lot of long runs where I've wasted the whole day running and caught nothing when I got there. And that is a terrible feeling.
Brian Bashore (46:57.976)
Yeah, and you're out a few hundred dollars in fuel. So that's great. Yeah. I mean, if you can catch them quick, the runs are worth it. I mean, that's always the thing is like, can I get them in a couple hours? Cause I'm going to spend.
Chase Parsons (47:00.419)
Yeah, yep, yep. So it's gonna take some time.
Chase Parsons (47:07.873)
That's what you got to gauge, right? And then of course you think you can a lot of times if you're going to make that run and then you get there and everything's totally changed. And then you're like, Then everything's passported and it is what it is. But I kind of enjoy that part of it too. Sometimes it works out, sometimes it doesn't. If the right fish are for a long run, I'm probably never going to be one that passes on it.
If I am, Kemos would be talking in my ear right here in the back here telling me that I should go too. Things like that. So if we even, you know what, I think we even got Springle to make some runs a little bit too, which is, which is fun. Like he was never one that liked to make long runs and like, I'll tell you what, I think, I think Kemos is responsible for that word, anything, you know, calling him a baby and things like that. it's,
Brian Bashore (47:49.816)
Yeah.
No, not at all.
Brian Bashore (48:03.892)
Yeah.
Chase Parsons (48:07.013)
It's all good. Yeah.
Brian Bashore (48:09.23)
I remember a Bay city takeoff and Corey goes bloop right here by the first, which I caught a walleye there immediately when we pre-fish, but that was it. That's I never caught another one, but he went bloop like right on that limit. Like you can't fish right here. Corey's like, okay, can I fish right there? Okay, cool. I'm going to go 10 feet over and starts gigging. you know, I'm like, that's a good run because we got a 45 minute no wake zone and he's already, hell, he could have had a peak and been done fishing before we even got out of the damn no wake zone.
Chase Parsons (48:29.46)
Yep.
Exactly.
Yep, yep, exactly. no, it's, it's always, I think it's always interesting seeing where guys, you know, pull in, especially if you're making a long run, because you can be like, gosh, he's fishing there. Like he just ran three minutes and I'm to run two and a half hours one way. And then and then like the whole time you're running, right? Your mind's racing and you're like, I'm an idiot for doing this.
Brian Bashore (48:51.906)
Right? Right.
Brian Bashore (49:00.558)
Exactly. Yes, yeah. Because once you commit, you're, okay, I get there, now the water's super clean and they're gone. And it's like, now I have to go pre-fish this area and find them.
Chase Parsons (49:11.262)
Yeah, yeah, you got it. You got it. Like it's, it's, uh, it's fun, but that's the exciting thing. mean, crazy runs are always something that I'll enjoy. mean, on the Mississippi last year, that was pretty crazy what we did when we bypassed the lock going in the back channels and stuff like that.
Brian Bashore (49:28.11)
Yeah, that was, it didn't even resonate with me because we were fishing that same stretch on that, whatever that no point point, whatever thing is called. Yeah. And I get there and like, you're already here. You and Cory are sitting there working that and I'm, and it didn't even like, how the hell did he get here before me? I was in the front. You know, and then later I'm like, oh, he crazy asses went all the way around in some crick.
Chase Parsons (49:35.826)
Yeah, hopefully. Yep.
Chase Parsons (49:41.79)
You
Yeah.
Chase Parsons (49:54.725)
Yeah, we did. Cric, cat tails, whatever you want to call it. I mean, it was it was pretty insane. it was. I mean, the backstory of it, like just so everyone knows, there was a barge that was taken up or locked in. Pretty much everyone was fishing down down the pool. And and so a lot of you guys, well, pretty much everyone fished a little bit buffalo sleuth, things like that for a couple for an hour or whatever. And
Brian Bashore (50:16.396)
Yeah. Yep.
Chase Parsons (50:22.905)
Once again, I don't know why I keep saying his name, but Kemos had found a path. He had found a path that we could bypass the lock in the back channel and get all the way around, which even the local guys, the local river rats said with the water levels, there's no way it was possible. Well, if you know Tom Kemos, when you say there's no way it's possible.
Brian Bashore (50:25.708)
Yeah. Cause he, he most of us travels his own little way. He's in his own world sometimes.
Chase Parsons (50:50.17)
He's going to figure out how to make it possible. And he did. So we're sitting there before takeoff and I think everyone was having the same conversations, right? They're like, barge, gosh, we got a fish up here for an hour. Wait for that to happen. And Kemos just looks at me and he's got that crazy look in his eye. And I'm like, no. And he's like, I'm doing it. He's like, you guys can follow me. Now mind you, Springle, Tom and myself had never made that.
We'd not done it. We didn't even know what we were getting ourselves into. And on top of it, Tom Kemos had a 20 foot Triton, the smallest boat, the smallest, least drafting boat in our entire group. And he was gonna lead the way. And I'm like, okay, yep, whatever. we decided we were gonna do it. And I'll tell you what, like it was, it was pretty crazy. It was pretty crazy, but we got down there, we're fishing.
Brian Bashore (51:27.596)
Alright. Yep.
Chase Parsons (51:47.675)
And like you said, Brian, you were fishing by me on point no point. Corey was there too. But the boats like first boat down was Max Wilson. Right. And he gets in the lake and he looks over and you could just see it in his eyes. Like how on earth are these guys down here ahead of us? Like the looks we got just because we're there. I mean, we were fishing for 40 minutes before anyone even got down there. So.
Brian Bashore (52:04.642)
What are you doing?
Brian Bashore (52:11.736)
Alright.
Yeah, I just never even went through my head till like later. I'm like, they were already here. I'm like, it probably already got a couple of fish in a box. And then I was just like, yeah. And we were there a day, day before and I threw back a couple that I probably ended up needing, but practice, you know, was some nice six pounders in there. And I'm like, this is, and you could see him laying, laying along those logs, you know, and I'm the side image and I'm just like, and we just pulled back, I you were cranking, I pulled bouncers through it.
Chase Parsons (52:19.593)
Yeah, we did. Yeah, it was really good right away.
Yup, Yup. Yup.
Chase Parsons (52:38.221)
Yep.
Brian Bashore (52:44.344)
But like, that's why I like Mississippi, but you better take every run or combo you got in your whole arsenal. Cause and especially a spot like that, cause you're going to, and you're going to lose some baits. But yeah, that, that was crazy. But I mean, I do the same thing up here in the chutes and the best way to get around this is full tilt, maybe get that baby up out of the water and go.
Chase Parsons (52:50.111)
yeah.
Chase Parsons (52:54.925)
Yeah.
Chase Parsons (53:06.462)
Yeah, yeah, I mean, that's what a lot of it was. There were a couple areas where it was like you couldn't like I. I honestly, when we got in there, I'm like, what on earth does he have us like? I thought all four of us were going to get stuck and we're going to have a way of getting out of there pretty much. But we made it.
Brian Bashore (53:14.023)
because it's
Brian Bashore (53:23.491)
Yeah.
Brian Bashore (53:30.254)
It was a, it was the story heard all around. Once afterwards, you're like, those guys, everybody figured it out quick. They're like, yeah, they had a trail that went around the lock. Like, I didn't even know that was an option. I didn't even know there was a river or a creek over there.
Chase Parsons (53:38.688)
Yeah, it was funny. It was funny, right? Because like all four of us had a good second day and like not a single person was like, hey, how'd you do today? They're like, how on earth did you guys get her out? they didn't, no one cared about how many fish we caught or what we did. People were just like, did you guys seriously go around the walk? And we're just like, yep.
Brian Bashore (53:51.757)
Right. Did you?
Brian Bashore (54:02.646)
Yep. Yep. I mean, that's the, that's the level of, I don't know if it's stupidity, but dedication that we have, you know, in the, competitiveness that the kind of the stupid, crazy stuff we'll do. Right. You know, it's a gauge, you know, it's, you gotta take a risk, right? Higher risk, bigger reward on these things. And it's just like making the long run. You get there and you're like, rolled the dice and I got snake eyes when I got here or bam, bam, bam. I mean, that green Bay, those guys went up there.
Chase Parsons (54:14.018)
Stupidity, yeah.
Yep.
Brian Bashore (54:31.822)
You know, and they hit and they had a couple of spots and they cracked them and they were done. Yeah. Maybe rough and long run, but I'm coming in at 10 or noon versus grinding, grinding all day, scratch your head. Cause you were five miles from the launch. Cause it was manageable, but I don't this first 21 foot boat I had. I'm looking forward to not having an end with the, you know, the, the 480 plus gallon tank. like, I'm not worried about nothing. I'm just going, you know, that 20 handled the waves great better than any boat I've ever had. And.
Chase Parsons (54:34.988)
Yep.
Yep, yep, exactly.
Chase Parsons (54:44.587)
Yep.
Chase Parsons (54:55.392)
Yeah. Yeah. No.
Brian Bashore (55:01.166)
100 % of the time motor ran perfect. Never had any issues. So I mean that's you got to trust your equipment because that you know if you don't in the back your mind that's taking you out of that the whole equation
Chase Parsons (55:13.622)
Yeah, it's a big, big deal, right? Like, um, and, and like you said, the tank that we have in these 21 nitros, 83, 84 gallons is just, it's such a big deal. It's a huge deal for anyone that wants to make those long runs. Um, cause let's face it, a lot of the competitors boats have a 55 or 60 gallon tank, right? And that extra 25 gallons.
A lot of times, like we talked about before, is the difference between stopping for fuel and not. that right there is a huge deciding factor for a lot of us, right? Sometimes there isn't fuel to stop for, but also like there's times where you don't make that run because you're like, well, what if I'm number four in line for gas and it takes an extra hour, things like that. So it just takes a lot of the kind of guessing and I guess fear of the long runs out of it.
probably not a great thing for me because I already was making crazy runs and now it just makes it so much easier, Brian. So why not?
Brian Bashore (56:14.126)
All right.
Brian Bashore (56:18.848)
Right. You got more fishing time, which what it all boils down to. Now you think, you know, a lot of these long run started obviously was the Sakaka we have back in what like 15 or something like that. That was crazy. But to your point is fishing away from people. Now there was obviously people up there, but it was, that's a big area. It was still pretty spread out. On day two, I didn't have, I couldn't see a boat far as I could see where I went, but I only went about 60 some miles, but that was so strategic. You know, I remember.
Chase Parsons (56:23.646)
Yeah.
Chase Parsons (56:28.628)
That was crazy.
Chase Parsons (56:36.69)
Yep. Yep.
Brian Bashore (56:47.722)
You came was out there and you got your waxing the boats taking windshields off taking kickers off I pulled up a Tom Wayne and I had a box of jigs and like four rods in a boat and that was it I think I threw four trolling rods in a box of flicker meadows just in case but hour and a half fishing was done, you know and But a strategic on okay cutting here cutting here. I'm gonna get gas Where am I gonna get it and I went to Indian Hills and in and out, you know, and it was
Chase Parsons (56:52.094)
Hehehehe
Chase Parsons (56:56.262)
Yup. Yup.
Chase Parsons (57:00.52)
Yeah.
Chase Parsons (57:13.812)
Yep.
Brian Bashore (57:15.822)
I did the math, I go full throttle to here. I'm to burn 15 gallons. I can top it off. And then if I just go like 44, I'm good to go the rest of the way and back. You know, now I don't have worry about that. just freaking go.
But those were, those were some runs, but it's also, I mean, when the weather's good, it's kind of nice to take a two hour full throttle boat ride and just, just cruise, especially on the Missouri river. Yeah.
Chase Parsons (57:40.74)
I agree, yeah, I agree. When it's nice, when it's nice, I really like making those runs for sure. yeah, it gives you time to think. Yeah, for me it's It's usually red bulls for me. Not a...
Brian Bashore (57:48.93)
Yep. I mean, you get it. Knock on a whole cup of coffee and you just, you just cruise it.
Oh man, that's common guy. In the long run I probably have the thermos with me, but yeah, it's a, mean, I've had to stop and pee before on a long run too though. Cause I'm like, it was not smooth out and it's rough. like, I can't, I can't take it. Time out. gotta go. Gotta go. We still got like 30 miles. We're to take a break and go hit the head here quick. So, Oh yeah. Looking forward to it. The boats are beast. New motors. I can't wait. Hope yours floats. Hope mine floats and everything runs good and we'll be cracking some.
Chase Parsons (58:08.58)
Yep. Yep. Yep.
Chase Parsons (58:15.867)
Yeah.
Brian Bashore (58:25.57)
Some walleyes next week are here in the next few days and we're gonna give her give her hell Let's get we'll wrap this up here on tournaments. What do you where do you feel? How you feel? We're going what he's kind of changes you think we can make on all the circuit levels or what? Do we need to make adjustments? Do we not need to make adjustments? Do we just need to all shut up and fish as it says right right behind me?
Chase Parsons (58:43.357)
Yeah, I mean, I think everyone that follows tournaments and I mean, it's crazy It's not just the walleye tournaments. You see it in the best tournament. No, it's just all the I Guess the rules and guys getting DQ'd and things like that I mean what I what I would say is I I would like to see the tournament circuits If they're gonna have a rule it has to be a black and white rule
Brian Bashore (58:53.87)
Probably.
Chase Parsons (59:10.884)
Right. There's just, there's, seems like there's a lot of gray areas with a lot of stuff going on right now, whether it's our circuit, Brian, whether it's the best tour, things like that. if a circuit cannot regulate a rule, there's no reason to have that rule. It's just a crazy thing. Right. So, I'd like to see some rules revamped to be honest, just to make it cut and dry.
And then secondly, I think everyone would agree that it takes a tournament director that I'm to just say it has the balls to make the right call when there's infractions that take place. because I think that's a little bit of everything that's going on right now. Guys are uneasy with things because there's been, it's brought to light that there's things that go on in tournaments, right? And I think it all started with the weights and the fish thing on Erie, right?
Brian Bashore (01:00:07.928)
Well, certainly didn't help nothing. Yep.
Chase Parsons (01:00:09.304)
from there, from there, but think about it. That was like the first big thing. And now like the last couple of years, now it's just blown up where it seems like every tournament there's something going on. And as you and I both know, because we've done this long enough, there's always been guys that have cut corners in tournaments. I mean, way before I was alive, right? guys probably push the envelope on a lot of different things. So I think that
You know, the circuit's just getting a good grasp of having the right person in place to make the calls to, you know, no matter who it is, if you're breaking a rule that's there, you need to be DQ'd. Like guys just need to be penalized for cutting corners and doing things like that. And you're starting to see it a little bit on some tours, but I think that's, that's the main thing, right? I don't think that any of these tournaments, the numbers going down for participants are anything to do.
with the sites we're going to, the bites we're going to, I think it is a hundred percent to do with everyone wanting an equal playing field, Brian. I think that is why if we see numbers go down a little bit, some of these guys that aren't fishing, maybe probably have felt like it hasn't been an equal playing field. And that's the only thing that I care about with going to fish a tournament. Everyone should be treated the same.
If you break a rule, whether you did it on purpose or on accident, you should get penalized for it and move on. It is what it is. Like I would never say anyone's purposely going out there cheating. I mean, there's guys that you do something accidentally and dang it, it was against the rule. It is what it is. Move on with life, go fish the next one, right? So yeah, you got to enforce them. That's number one,
Brian Bashore (01:01:59.616)
Yeah, there's no point in having them if you don't enforce them.
Chase Parsons (01:02:06.558)
on my list is rules have to be enforced. And then, you know, I just think that, you know, in our example for the NWT, really paying attention to the location guys and things want to go, right? Because let's just face it, we are very different than the bass world. A lot of those guys make their living doing that. A lot of us do not. I do. I'm a lucky guy that gets to.
You you guide things like that, but for the most part, they're guys that want to go out and have fun and catch a lot of fish too in the wildlife circuit. making sure we're going to the good locations at the right times, I think will just help it a little bit. Obviously more money in the pot would be great. But it's, I think the payouts and stuff with, with fields are pretty good. For me, it's just trying to get back to a point where everyone's confident that they can go out and compete.
and not have to worry about some of the shenanigans that have been occurring the last couple of years. I think that's what it is.
Brian Bashore (01:03:12.514)
Yep. Bala and I talked about payouts and he's got the old payouts from even PW days and we're actually sitting better, you know, than, a lot of those. the differences, the cost, the boats are twice as much fuels, twice as much lodging is twice as much, but the payouts are twice as much, but they're better. But back then there was a lot more, which we got great contingency through the, you know, Nitro and the Ranger Triton program is a great contingency money, which is.
Chase Parsons (01:03:20.873)
Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Chase Parsons (01:03:30.686)
Yup.
Chase Parsons (01:03:35.498)
Yeah.
Brian Bashore (01:03:39.566)
Which is huge. So if you all ain't registered, you're not part of that. Get on the program. I think it's 10 grand for NWT right now. And it was, used to be seven or eight and, uh, and we kind of got our own special one for the NWT, but that, that applies to local tournaments and everywhere you can, you can make a lot of money just in contingencies throughout the year, even in your local tournaments. Um, but they had a lot of big fish, lot of side, a lot of day money, a lot of best comeback. You know, they had a lot of other things. Cause I mean, how many times we do have a horrible day one and an awesome day two or vice versa.
Chase Parsons (01:03:45.49)
It is, yep.
Chase Parsons (01:03:58.121)
Yup.
Chase Parsons (01:04:05.065)
Yep.
Brian Bashore (01:04:09.196)
And also now you're back, maybe a missed the cut for a check, but man, you had the biggest bag in the whole tournament and that was worth nothing theoretically, you know, and that kind of sucks, but it happens.
Chase Parsons (01:04:10.41)
Yeah, yeah, I mean it Yeah, I would agree with you like that. No, don't get me wrong You and I both like all the guys that fish it we'd love for the payouts to go up for sure But I just the pit the payout part of it to me isn't the the major problem right now
Brian Bashore (01:04:32.866)
For real.
Brian Bashore (01:04:39.671)
No.
Chase Parsons (01:04:40.207)
And I know everyone else would agree with that as well too. Our palates are decent. It's, we need to find a way to some of these guys that might've stepped away the last year or two to get them back to come compete again. Right? Like the more boats that we have in our world, the better. And it just is what it is. Right? Just cause let's face it, our circuits open, right? If you want to play, you pay and you're in. So the more boats we have, better.
for all of us and yeah, it's just kind of everyone getting on the same page again and trying to move forward together, which I hope happens. I have hopes, right? But...
Brian Bashore (01:05:22.798)
Yeah, we got to with guys like you and me and then Corey and Tom and those just to tell you the listeners that this is a good thing. This is great. I'd love to see 200 boats out there. doesn't, it doesn't matter to me if I'm competing against a hundred or two. The fact of two is the paths go higher and it's still you versus the fish. don't, I just put everybody else. I don't care. It's me versus that little too wide little itty bitty brain thing that outsmarts me more often than not. That's it. This is all that matters, you know, and then.
Chase Parsons (01:05:33.319)
Yeah.
Chase Parsons (01:05:38.46)
Yep.
Brian Bashore (01:05:52.043)
In the day, you'll see where you land, but we want, you want more money and need more boats. And that's good for the industry. So.
Chase Parsons (01:05:55.449)
Yep, yeah, no It is yep, so yeah, I mean I like I Think if you if you're looking on social media and stuff like that a lot of guys are commenting that the whole fishing industry is falling apart and stuff It's not right like still plenty strong, but there's definitely some things in the tournament world right that that could change for the better and
As anglers, we can do is try to keep making recommendations and seeing if any of them stick, right? Like there's not a lot that we can do other than that. So it kind of is what it is.
Brian Bashore (01:06:30.71)
Right. Yeah. If I, yeah, I just have an opinion. I don't own it. So I can't make the calls, but here's, here's my opinion. think, and you and I are both a couple and Kemos as well as an outspoken person that's going to let you know our opinion and see what you do with it from there. But you've been around this long enough. opinion is pretty, you know, it's, it's valid, very valid and incredible. And you've seen the industry do this.
Chase Parsons (01:06:47.108)
Yeah.
Yep. Yep.
Brian Bashore (01:06:58.804)
up and down thing and we're just kind of in one of those, those cycles. That's not bad, not great, but I mean, COVID is still has a lot to do with it. So, you know.
Chase Parsons (01:07:06.021)
Agreed? yep. So yeah, I have high hopes. mean, here's the thing, Brian, like the tournament part of it, which is probably where the most bickering comes in to me, like the tournament part of my job is the most fun part of my job. Like I love fishing tournaments. They're fun, right? So I don't want to, if I can do anything to help them get better and give some insight and hopefully
Brian Bashore (01:07:19.832)
Goody. Goody.
Brian Bashore (01:07:24.738)
Yep.
Yep.
Chase Parsons (01:07:36.515)
Hopefully some of these changes do occur. that's a great thing. Cause geez, like I, yeah, we shoot TV shows. Yeah. I do a lot of promotions for the companies, but the most fun part of it is going and fishing tournaments and hanging out with the guys and being competitive. Right. So,
Brian Bashore (01:07:53.378)
Yeah, you're in the, we're in the same boat. That's my vacation. You know, people, because when you guide and you fish every day, they're like, it's great. Live. I'm like, it's this, this is work. And trust me, I started a couple hours before you got here and I'm to get done three or four hours after you leave. it, cause now it's in the camper on the computer until 10 o'clock getting back to emails and booking and keeping the other guides, you know, going and then going back out and staying on fish, you know, but when you get to go away for these tournaments and that preweek, you know, the pre fish time, I'm like, this is, yeah, it's, know,
Chase Parsons (01:07:56.89)
Yeah?
Chase Parsons (01:08:01.326)
Yeah.
Chase Parsons (01:08:06.563)
Yeah.
Chase Parsons (01:08:16.227)
Thank
Brian Bashore (01:08:21.748)
I get out pretty darn early and it will stay out, you know, fairly late and it's worked. But I'm like, but this is, it's just me, you know, and this is, this is fun. This is your little getaway from, from whatever, from the day to day stuff. Cause like you, got families and kids and, short hairs that run the house and we're short hair anyway. And yeah, it's just, this is your little vacation. So, but it's still work, but it's a job we love. So.
Chase Parsons (01:08:29.142)
Yep. Yep.
Chase Parsons (01:08:44.227)
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I think and it's, everyone's talked so much about the forward facing thing, right? I think just in general, for a lot of anglers, you know, whether you fish small tournaments or whether you're just going out to catch fish, the electronics,
Brian Bashore (01:08:48.864)
All right, leave these listeners with the little nugget from Chase to help them along their angling journey. Make them better anglers, better terminators, better fishermen. What do you got for them? Piece of advice.
Chase Parsons (01:09:14.338)
They fish can't hide anymore. No matter what you have, you don't you don't have to have you don't have to have forward-facing sonar Obviously to go catch fish But when you talk about just being really good at reading 2d sonar even still right now is still a huge huge thing Side scan you can see everything you need to see all the areas that will have fish like I Would I would say for anglers the more that you can just work on understanding your electronics?
Brian Bashore (01:09:18.017)
It's so true.
Chase Parsons (01:09:43.881)
No matter what type of body of water you fish, the better, right? Because if you understand, you might not need to see a pile of fish on side scan, but if you can see this rock shelf really well, that in your mind will hold fish. Trust me, it does hold fish. So, so it's just one of the things that, you know, you don't have to have the top of the line stuff because even midline stuff is super good now.
Brian Bashore (01:09:58.922)
It does, yep. They're there.
Chase Parsons (01:10:10.661)
understanding the electronics, whether you're a Lake Erie suspended, fishermen, whether you, drag, Lindy rakes around on an inland lake, it really doesn't matter. Electronics are where it's at studying them, looking at good maps, figuring those things out and just always keeping that in the back of your mind. you know, and I think everyone hears it. yeah. Electronics really good, but everything shifted so much toward forward facing.
that I would just like to say that it doesn't have to be forward facing. There's a lot of other sonars and technologies out there that will help you be a better angler too. if you're not a forward facing guy, perfectly fine. Just get better at what you have and you're going to catch more fish.
Brian Bashore (01:10:56.878)
Master your electronics, be a master angler. It doesn't matter what brand you have now. They are all just good. They're all ridiculously good.
Chase Parsons (01:10:59.531)
That's it.
Chase Parsons (01:11:03.079)
No, it doesn't. Yeah, they're all super good. You're what a Garmin guy, right?
Brian Bashore (01:11:10.094)
I'm a bird, but I got a Garmin scope and being on the Missouri river, I always have a bird because of mappings. Just there's nothing, nothing comparable to it.
Chase Parsons (01:11:12.159)
Yep.
Yep, yep. And I'm a Lurans guy. Like it's crazy when I think about that, Brian, like even you look at electronics, you look at boats, you look at all this stuff. And I feel like 10 to 12 years ago, there was a big discrepancy from company to company in all of this stuff. That gap in every single facet of the industry is now kind of right in here, right? All the equipment's really good now. It's what you're comfortable with. It's what you're used to using. And
Brian Bashore (01:11:34.21)
Now.
Chase Parsons (01:11:45.839)
user interfaces, like that with electronics. But yeah, I'm with you. It's all good. All this stuff is good.
Brian Bashore (01:11:51.47)
Yep. And the price point is pretty much almost right there too, on everything from both electronics that are all give or take. I talked to Jimmy Bell the other day, he was coming out for the fishing you with and doing some Garmin stuff and he was like, all right, where's the bike? know, I said, that's normal, right? Let's go North or you can go over here. Here. said, just, I said, turn your side scan on. I'm like, I caught him at nine 10 and then I caught him in four and five and that four and five is loaded. I'm like, you can't not.
Chase Parsons (01:11:55.539)
Yep. Yep.
Brian Bashore (01:12:15.726)
Not see those fish. There is no rocks there. So those are all fish and it's ridiculous. And he's like, I'm just not good with the size scan. I'm like, you can get rid of my 2d and everything else. Leave me my side scan. I'm like, that baby is that's money. And that's all I use for years, you know, upon chamber and catching them and now scoping, but typically there's so many fish. I'm like, I don't, I don't even need the scope. I don't want to chase one and go buy a hundred. like, just get your bait in the water, you know, they're there. And he said, yeah, he goes, you and my other, you know, it's just two guy fish termites with. He's like, they live on that thing. I'm like,
Chase Parsons (01:12:16.871)
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Chase Parsons (01:12:25.918)
Yeah.
Chase Parsons (01:12:37.597)
Yeah. Yep.
Brian Bashore (01:12:45.656)
Cause you should, cause it works really, really good. And this thing goes down. You always have this, you know, but I'm like, you can't really to defish in four foot of water, you know, it's like, but there's so many of them there. You're gonna, there's a couple of them there underneath the boat. So, good stuff, good stuff. All right. Well, thanks for your time today, Jason. You're busy. You gotta get packed. gotta get packed. We gotta go make sure these bad boy nitros float. and they will like balloons, I'm sure.
Chase Parsons (01:12:46.889)
Yeah. Yeah? Yeah.
Chase Parsons (01:12:59.75)
Yeah.
Chase Parsons (01:13:04.826)
Okay.
Brian Bashore (01:13:13.006)
we don't want to sink like rocks but we want those uh get those mercuries broke in a little bit too so we can let it rip and hopefully not making the good thing about lake sharp i think it's only like 70 miles so you know you looked yep yep he's like okay i can go from one end of this baby to the back no problem all right i'm good yep and it's and it's not frozen it's all open so and uh and i don't spend a of time on that lower end never have but i'm gonna definitely go go check it out so
Chase Parsons (01:13:22.416)
Yeah, it is. Trust me, if you don't think that I didn't look at the total distance already, you're out of your mind.
Yup.
Chase Parsons (01:13:40.624)
Yeah.
Brian Bashore (01:13:41.23)
Um, I mean, we'll see you down there, but we'll definitely see you on the water. And, uh, I think that's about it. We'll get this wrapped up. Thanks, Chase for your time today. And, we'll see you bet. We'll see you here in just a matter of a few days and thank all you for tuning in and listening on Apple, Spotify, all those podcasts platforms are those that are watching along over on YouTube or to all the guys page. So stay safe and we'll see you on the water.
Chase Parsons (01:13:50.044)
Appreciate it. fun.