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You're watching TVVN. Today is Friday, 10/17/2025. We are live from the TVVN UltraDome, the temple of technology, the fortress of finance, the capital of capital. Let's, play the clip from Bloomberg.
Speaker 2:There was a report about the NGC two system. It named both Andrew and Palantir. We've asked Palantir through Sean to comment on that. But the report in Palantir's case move markets. Could you just respond to that reporting.
Speaker 2:Journalists who wrote that Reuters story would have been failed out
Speaker 1:of the class by any of my professors. He refused to close on
Speaker 3:the record statement. He refused to include the
Speaker 1:on the record. This is crazy though
Speaker 3:because they fundamentally made the whole story not a story.
Speaker 1:They just didn't include what would be security problems. Palantir and Andoril had to say. The army was like, hey, we want you to prototype something for us, like put a bunch of dots on a map, do something different, like create a new UI, like show us what you can do. And then clearly an enemy of Andrew Rolland Palantir leaked, like, well, they didn't have OAuth set up yet. And it's like, well, yeah, we know this in Silicon Valley.
Speaker 1:When you build a new product, you focus on finding a problem, building the solution, and then you figure out how to optimize the database. Everyone in America knows that it shouldn't take fifty years to build the new plane. Everyone knows that other countries can build stuff faster and build systems faster, And it shouldn't take this long. And other countries aren't smarter
Speaker 4:or Still no more hard build fast data centers.
Speaker 1:Difference between the data center market and what's going on in defense and government procurement is that the data center market doesn't necessarily have a ton of entrenched interest in being like, let's not speed up. Our model works. Palmer also went on the Joe Rogan experience. We have some images from this. The European mind cannot comprehend what happened.
Speaker 1:Now, this is unfortunately fake news. But you're
Speaker 4:telling me this is slop.
Speaker 1:This is slop, but this is the purest slop possible.
Speaker 4:You didn't allow me to live for just No, I'm sorry. Thirty
Speaker 1:seconds, It is unfortunately fake news. We need to put in the truth zone.
Speaker 4:They pulled up an Ashley Vance video of a wrecked wrecked robot.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Play that. This something that someone's working out with?
Speaker 3:This is Yeah. Well, actually
Speaker 4:robot fight league against San Francisco.
Speaker 3:Yeah. So actually so actually, this is this is a buddy of mine who's been working in VR for a really, really long time. So it's, again, what a tiny what tiny world of weird wackos.
Speaker 1:They were having so much fun talking about, it should be a human versus a robot. That's what Palmer and Logan Paul are apparently working on. And they go into this big long discussion about, well, if you can train a robot to be like perfect with its punches, it could also pull its punches perfectly. And so it could be the ultimate sparring partner. It could train on, could say like, I'm gonna get in the ring with Evander Holyfield or Mike Tyson today.
Speaker 1:And it could mimic that perfectly in theory.
Speaker 4:I'm more interested to see like a 100 robots versus one human.
Speaker 1:For sure.
Speaker 4:While they're not quite as dialed. That would be great. Imagine because right now I'd be how damage Logan Paul would do to a bunch of those unit trees today.
Speaker 1:I think you get a 100 unit trees, the humanoid robots, you put them in gorilla costumes, you turn Logan Paul loose. It's a $2,000,000 production, but it's gonna get a billion views. So like-
Speaker 3:You could also do
Speaker 5:a 100 unit trees versus one gorilla.
Speaker 1:Some photos of Marc Benioff on TBPN and Palmer on Joe Rogan. He's the final boss of Salesman. With a lot of other people we've met beforehand, we've talked, we've gotten to know each other. That was not the case with Benioff. The first time I ever had talked to him was on that call.
Speaker 1:And it just felt like we were old friends immediately. Before we move on, let me tell you about Privy, wallet infrastructure for every bank. Privy makes it easy to build on crypto rails, securely spin up white label wallets, sign transactions, and integrate on chain infrastructure all through one simple API. This is my opportunity to remind everyone that Andrew Huberman was a writer for Thrasher Mag before becoming a neuroscientist. You can just do things.
Speaker 1:Look at this photo of Andrew Huberman. He's looking fantastic in this leather How
Speaker 4:did I never know this?
Speaker 1:Yeah. This is just a massive invitation for Jensen Huang from NVIDIA to go on the Huberman Lab Podcast. That would be a fantastic crossover.
Speaker 4:Cheers. Joe Rogan says car design is bad now because car designers stop doing drugs. Oh, hot Hot take from Joe.
Speaker 1:Joshua Kushner strolled billionairely across the room. His contrarian high concentration vibes engulfed Rick Rubin's Bohemian monk retreat. Joshua's high conviction and mistress filled the room. It's the giggled shot at the typewriter. LMAO, here's the first sentence of this Kushner profile.
Speaker 1:The road to Rick Rubin's house was long and winding for Kushner, who traversed more than might be gleaned from the surface glint of his life. People were were debating whether or not this is real journalism, whether or not this is real investigative journalism,
Speaker 4:and the trade off that people make when they read these. Colossus is out there saying, like, we are trying they're not trying to be anyone but Colossus.
Speaker 1:Exactly. Right? They're not
Speaker 4:trying to. And that's the thing about media is, like, media is not zero sum. Yep. Like the New York Times can thrive and Colossus can thrive and they can have some overlap and maybe the stories that they're interested in, but they can have totally different ways of covering people and that's healthy and consumers have the choice of whose kind of general point of view do I want to, you know, read. I'd like
Speaker 1:to imagine I fail though by inherent nature of being human to understand the arguments of the tech folks and the journalist folks. And here's what I believe they both say and where I agreedisagree. I'm hesitant to call Colossus at all investigative journalism since there are more puff pieces or a farm for the Gen Z than not. Yeah, it's a pretty good take.
Speaker 4:I always enjoy going to futurism.com. Yes. Which is a media company you would assume is excited about the future. Here's some of their latest stories. Divorced Tesla fan admits that his cyber truck is repulsive to women.
Speaker 4:Super proud to have been involved with this over the past few months. The lower cost of acceptance with BTC will make traditional card processing obsolete. We'll be announcing some really exciting sellers who've moved to Square for Bitcoin. They are so convinced that people wanna pay for goods with Bitcoin.
Speaker 1:Who? I bought a TV with Bitcoin. It was the worst financial decision of my life. Paid one Bitcoin. Yeah.
Speaker 1:It's a 100 TV, a $100,000 TV. And it's not even 4 ks and it's actually in the trash now. I gave it away.
Speaker 5:When was this?
Speaker 1:It was in like 2013 or something. Bitcoin was like a thousand bucks.
Speaker 4:Yeah. Just before you were born. You should run it back and buy a car.
Speaker 1:I spent like 5 I actually spent like 5 Bitcoin on like consumer electronics that depreciated like crazy.
Speaker 4:Heather donates a quarter million dollars to OpenSats to strengthen free and open source ecosystem supporting Bitcoin and Freedom Tech. Jack says, why only $2.50 ks? Somebody asked, how much did you donate? He goes, over 21,000,000. You?
Speaker 4:This is like the former owner of the dive bar coming back in and just talking smack.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Yeah. He's like, I don't know about this anymore.
Speaker 4:But spiritually,
Speaker 1:own it. A lot of soft power. Heineken, the beer company, which has been around since 1873, is taking a shot at friend of the show, friend, founder, Avi Schiffman, who has been putting friend billboards all over Los Angeles, all over New York. Heineken has people who get it and can sell it internally or have proper processes to turn this around quickly and ship incredible speed for a giant organization. I completely agree.
Speaker 4:It's the official beer of AI doomers.
Speaker 1:What analysis do you want to run? Chat with your data and get expert level insights in seconds. Julius is the AI data analyst friend who works for you.
Speaker 4:My boomer dad looking at me after I've made fun of him for the past ten years for buying gold off those stupid infomercials on TV.
Speaker 1:Well, congrats to all the boomers who have been holding gold for years and years and years, and are now seeing it finally moon.
Speaker 4:Aaron says, If you ever think you're a good programmer, just remember this dude wrote Roller Coaster Tycoon by himself in Assembly, That's earning 30,000,000 in awesome. Imagine when he woke up from his dream of Assembly, he immediately jumped into more Assembly. He woke up excited to get out of bed, not for the money, but for the love of the game. Chris in the chat says my favorite part was cleaning up the throw up in roller coaster tycoon. Is that real?
Speaker 1:Yes. There might be throw up if there's a mess, if there's a crazy ride.
Speaker 4:If your ride's
Speaker 1:And it's too like, if you put the food next to the ride, the people will throw up.
Speaker 4:DoorDash will use Waymo's robotaxis for delivery in Phoenix. Customers will have to come down to the curb to retrieve their orders from the driverless car's trunk. Paula says private robotaxi for my burrito. And that is all you need to know about America.
Speaker 1:Pretty sick.
Speaker 4:Greg Brockman said, Thanks Jensen for the hand delivery of the DGX Spark, best delivery service ever. Amazing to see so much compute. Based 16 z says AI bubble ended in the funniest way. 2022 AGI soon. 2023 AGI soon.
Speaker 4:2024 AGI soon. '25, nevermind we give up. It's just erotica and ads. It's not just erotica and ads. And cures for cancer.
Speaker 1:And gambling. Amazon admits they're losing an AI says Buco Capital bloke.
Speaker 4:Internal documents obtained by Business Insider, we gotta check out Business Insider, reveal that AWS has flagged a fundamental shift in how startups are allocating their cloud budgets. Increasingly, they're delaying AWS cloud adoption and diverting spending toward AI models, inference, and AI developer tools. Startups are not flocking to AWS for running.
Speaker 1:Like the whole ecosystem. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. In years past, there was definitely
Speaker 4:a path I think, like yeah, I just look at this as there's clearly a fundamental shift they're not capitalizing on it in a big way.
Speaker 1:I agree. You know, I've often said that I would be, I wouldn't be the first person to go on the rocket to the moon or the, or, or to Mars, but I'd be like number five or 10. As long as the first couple people make it back, I'm good. What about you? What number of person do you wanna be?
Speaker 1:Do you wanna be the the first person with the
Speaker 4:Millionth. You wanna be the millionth 10,000,000. Neurolink customer? A billion.
Speaker 5:I'm probably in the first first 50,000, would say.
Speaker 1:First 50,000.
Speaker 5:Yeah. Mean, there's an interesting thing.
Speaker 4:What?
Speaker 5:One possible solution to like the kind of doom snare is that we, it's like the merge, like that would actually be prevent like the, you know, AIs taking over because like we
Speaker 1:are AIs. They can't take us over if we're them.
Speaker 5:Yeah. Jordy, what number are you?
Speaker 4:Big number. We're gonna need a bigger gong my number.
Speaker 1:It's all according to plan. He is highlighting the fact that lot of his, everyone with the same name as him is
Speaker 4:absolutely They're either building, cooking or at Thinking Machines or
Speaker 1:It's a good time to be
Speaker 4:Eric Zhang. Yeah, gotta get all We of them on the
Speaker 1:do. Eric Zhang guy.
Speaker 4:Same guy.
Speaker 1:They're all invited. Talk about OpenAI, Thinking Machines, Cooking and Building.
Speaker 4:Tyler, can you work on this? This seems like it.
Speaker 1:Invite them all. We have some breaking news. Apple has entered a five year deal to broadcast Formula One in The United States. And I love the Apple strategy.
Speaker 4:How much did they pay?
Speaker 1:We don't I I don't know. We should look it up.
Speaker 4:It's a barnacle economy in my opinion.
Speaker 1:Barnacle economy.
Speaker 4:Really is. They just like like drive to survive is this whale that was making making f one relevant in The US.
Speaker 1:I feel like
Speaker 4:They just attached onto it. It's a big barnacle.
Speaker 1:Wait. Wait. Who's the barnacle and who's the whale? I feel like I feel like f one is
Speaker 4:I'm saying apple started as a barnacle. Okay. And they're becoming the whale.
Speaker 1:Okay. Here he is. Tim Cook. This is at f one. Yep.
Speaker 1:And they and they want him to wave the checkered flag. That looks fine.
Speaker 4:No. It doesn't.
Speaker 1:How how does one wave a checkered flag?
Speaker 4:That is not how you would wave.
Speaker 3:How
Speaker 1:would I wave it? Would I just war gusto? You think it's warped. Look at
Speaker 4:how lackadaisical this way. I mean
Speaker 1:It does seem like he's kind of phoning in.
Speaker 4:Looks like he's going fishing. It does. Yeah. He's at the the finish line of a formula one race, and he looks like he's going out for trying to catch some trout or something. Wow.
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