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This is an early Sober Banter episode brought back for Sober October. We were new at this, so you may hear a few hiccups. The lessons still land. We cover the hardest parts of Sober October and the simple habits that kept us steady. Think of this as day one support with honest talk and practical steps. It also shows how far we have come as hosts and as people in recovery. If you are here to start strong or find your footing again, press play.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Sober Banter
00:43 Personal Sobriety Stories
03:33 Challenges of Sober October
06:36 Daily Check-ins and Support
08:58 Reflections and Rationalizations
15:07 Cultural Perspectives on Drinking
16:06 Conclusion and Wrap-Up
00:00 Introduction to Sober Banter
00:43 Personal Sobriety Stories
03:33 Challenges of Sober October
06:36 Daily Check-ins and Support
08:58 Reflections and Rationalizations
15:07 Cultural Perspectives on Drinking
16:06 Conclusion and Wrap-Up
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- (00:00) - Introduction to Sober Banter
- (03:33) - Challenges of Sober October
- (06:36) - Daily Check-ins and Support
- (08:58) - Reflections and Rationalizations
- (15:07) - Cultural Perspectives on Drinking
- (16:06) - Conclusion and Wrap-Up
Creators and Guests
What is Sober Banter?
Sober Banter, a podcast about life without alcohol, is real, relatable, and never boring. Hosts Rachel and Colin share honest conversations about sobriety with humor, heart, and a touch of chaos.
Colin (00:00:00):
That's a funny name.
Colin (00:00:01):
Yes, I love it.
Colin (00:00:16):
Welcome to Sober Banter.
Colin (00:00:18):
I'm Colin.
Rachel (00:00:19):
And I am Rachel.
Colin (00:00:20):
And this is Sober Banter.
Colin (00:00:22):
All right.
Rachel (00:00:23):
All right.
Rachel (00:00:23):
Welcome to Sober Banter.
Colin (00:00:25):
I thought you had a lead in.
Rachel (00:00:27):
A podcast for alcoholics by alcoholics.
Colin (00:00:30):
Yes.
Colin (00:00:31):
And we do as much prep as we did drinking, which is fast and loose.
Colin (00:00:36):
I just kind of had my thing that I was about to just jump right into.
Colin (00:00:40):
So I don't know if you have anything you want to start or add.
Rachel (00:00:43):
Yeah.
Rachel (00:00:43):
So the first thing that I do want to add is off of my personal experience,
Rachel (00:00:49):
which this whole podcast is off of what it used to be,
Rachel (00:00:52):
what kind of happened and what life is now and how it's the ups and downs of
Rachel (00:00:56):
sobriety.
Rachel (00:00:57):
But the year I got sober in 2021,
Rachel (00:01:00):
one of the things that had happened before I ended up getting sober on November
Rachel (00:01:04):
22nd.
Colin (00:01:04):
22nd.
Rachel (00:01:05):
Nailed it.
Rachel (00:01:06):
I tried so hard to be sober that October.
Colin (00:01:10):
Are you talking sober October?
Rachel (00:01:12):
Yes.
Rachel (00:01:13):
Sober October.
Rachel (00:01:14):
It's trending.
Rachel (00:01:16):
And I just remember beating myself because I had made it,
Rachel (00:01:20):
I think it was halfway through the month.
Rachel (00:01:21):
And I'd went to a friend's restaurant.
Rachel (00:01:23):
I tried.
Rachel (00:01:23):
I held on till the very end of the night.
Rachel (00:01:25):
And usually I would drink during the shift of even helping out there at a restaurant.
Rachel (00:01:29):
That's just the restaurant style.
Rachel (00:01:30):
But I didn't make it.
Rachel (00:01:32):
And of
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Of course,
Rachel (00:01:33):
that night ended horribly because when you have a break of trying to do Sober
Rachel (00:01:37):
October and you have that mishap,
Rachel (00:01:40):
it's already slipped.
Rachel (00:01:41):
So let's just go ahead and blow it up.
Colin (00:01:43):
Yeah.
Colin (00:01:43):
What's the point in keep going with the month if I already have one strike?
Rachel (00:01:47):
And it's weird that I don't know how the mentality works with that with alcohol.
Rachel (00:01:51):
It's not, oh, well, you know, I was trying for Sober October.
Rachel (00:01:54):
I had one.
Rachel (00:01:55):
I'll just have one.
Rachel (00:01:56):
It's no.
Rachel (00:01:57):
If I'm going to break it, I'm going to have 50.
Rachel (00:01:59):
You're going to shatter it.
Rachel (00:02:00):
I'm going to make it worth it, essentially.
Rachel (00:02:02):
I don't understand why that is.
Rachel (00:02:04):
But that's how it was.
Rachel (00:02:05):
Fuck it.
Rachel (00:02:06):
I already messed it up.
Rachel (00:02:07):
So let's just rip the bandaid full force.
Rachel (00:02:09):
And there's no reason to do that.
Colin (00:02:11):
No,
Colin (00:02:11):
and I don't want to start an argument,
Colin (00:02:14):
but I don't know if you even made it halfway through the month.
Colin (00:02:17):
I feel it was the first weekend in October,
Colin (00:02:19):
but I could be wrong because there was also dry January and other things that we
Colin (00:02:23):
tried.
Rachel (00:02:24):
Now, dry January never did.
Rachel (00:02:25):
The only one successfully we made it through the entire month was the whole 30.
Rachel (00:02:30):
And I can tell you that on morning of day 31, I think we had mimosas in the morning.
Rachel (00:02:36):
Out of the whole 30,
Rachel (00:02:37):
we're restricting all of your diet to all of these grains and whole foods and
Rachel (00:02:41):
greens.
Rachel (00:02:41):
And I mean, we actually we were feeling great.
Colin (00:02:43):
I really doing that.
Colin (00:02:44):
And I did feel great.
Rachel (00:02:45):
I remember the first thing we did was during the summer is I was so excited for a drink.
Rachel (00:02:51):
I didn't care about the food, didn't care about anything else.
Rachel (00:02:54):
I was just I want alcohol back in my life.
Colin (00:02:56):
We also,
Colin (00:02:57):
and I don't know if this pertains to anything,
Colin (00:03:00):
but we tried to do the Whole30 diet a second and a third time and we could never do
Colin (00:03:06):
it because we would end up failing in drinking and then just saying,
Colin (00:03:11):
ah,
Colin (00:03:11):
I don't want to eat healthy.
Colin (00:03:12):
I've already started drinking.
Colin (00:03:14):
So what's the point in continuing this Whole30 bit if I'm already drinking?
Colin (00:03:18):
And we just stopped the whole process.
Colin (00:03:20):
Yeah.
Rachel (00:03:21):
Why I thought about this a lot.
Rachel (00:03:23):
And it's nice that doing this podcast of the sober banter with my husband,
Rachel (00:03:27):
we talk about our sobriety,
Rachel (00:03:28):
we do these different check ins or share something that had happened during the
Rachel (00:03:32):
day.
Rachel (00:03:33):
I just know how much pressure I felt.
Rachel (00:03:36):
During Sober October, I remember what it felt not making it when I was talking to Colin.
Rachel (00:03:41):
I said, with sobriety, we do a daily check-in, right?
Rachel (00:03:43):
It's every single day.
Rachel (00:03:44):
We drink every single day.
Rachel (00:03:47):
And when we first got sober, you had time to go get a drink.
Rachel (00:03:50):
You have time to check in with your recovery.
Rachel (00:03:52):
And thinking about how people listen to podcasts...
Rachel (00:03:55):
Driving a car,
Rachel (00:03:56):
working out,
Rachel (00:03:57):
maybe during a kind of warming up to meditation routine,
Rachel (00:04:00):
whatever it is,
Rachel (00:04:00):
or maybe before you go to bed at night.
Rachel (00:04:02):
But for the month of Sober October, we are going to put out one show every day.
Rachel (00:04:07):
It will not be very long.
Colin (00:04:08):
Yeah, some of these might vary in length, but... It's going to be 10 to 15 minutes.
Rachel (00:04:13):
We don't want to overdo it,
Rachel (00:04:14):
but we do want to have a place where you feel you can go and listen to a Sober
Rachel (00:04:20):
October check-in.
Colin (00:04:21):
And I feel that's also a good thing for us because that's going to be our challenge
Colin (00:04:25):
is to do this with you by putting out a podcast every single day,
Colin (00:04:30):
checking in on everyone's progress.
Rachel (00:04:32):
And we already do that.
Rachel (00:04:34):
We already have a sober check-in.
Rachel (00:04:35):
So now it is putting a microphone in front of us.
Rachel (00:04:37):
The challenge would be if I do a camera, but this is how our daily lives go in October.
Rachel (00:04:42):
It's the talk of Halloween parties.
Rachel (00:04:44):
It's the getting our son Halloween costumes.
Rachel (00:04:47):
It's
Colin (00:04:47):
You also have Oktoberfest.
Colin (00:04:49):
And I just thought about that the very first time.
Colin (00:04:51):
This is third sober October since being sober for reals now.
Colin (00:04:56):
But yeah, I just realized, oh, Oktoberfest is a thing.
Colin (00:04:59):
And it's a big drinking month and holiday because I think it's a German thing, right?
Colin (00:05:03):
Oktoberfest?
Colin (00:05:04):
Isn't that where... And I think that's where the movie...
Colin (00:05:08):
Super Troopers.
Colin (00:05:08):
Yeah, those guys.
Rachel (00:05:09):
I've already seen it all around Facebook.
Rachel (00:05:11):
And I just want to say this is a place of support where for me,
Rachel (00:05:16):
I thought I was a complete failure that I couldn't stay sober and I was hopeless.
Rachel (00:05:21):
But looking in hindsight,
Rachel (00:05:23):
it was actually probably one of the parts of my sobriety that kind of got me a
Rachel (00:05:27):
little bit closer to realizing maybe I do have a problem with alcohol.
Rachel (00:05:31):
Yeah.
Rachel (00:05:31):
It wasn't the final one,
Rachel (00:05:33):
but it was one that it's planting that seed of maybe I'm doing Sober October just
Rachel (00:05:38):
to see what my relationship with alcohol is.
Rachel (00:05:40):
It doesn't have to be a pass or fail.
Colin (00:05:42):
And if you slip, what should you do?
Rachel (00:05:44):
I would take it as a time to just evaluate.
Rachel (00:05:47):
I wish I had someone or something to listen to.
Rachel (00:05:50):
Everything I see online, it seems so all in, all out.
Colin (00:05:53):
Yeah, but what I'm saying is don't quit if you slip.
Rachel (00:05:56):
That's still 29 or 30 days after.
Colin (00:05:59):
Put together.
Rachel (00:05:59):
Put together.
Rachel (00:06:00):
It's awesome if you can get it in a row.
Rachel (00:06:02):
That's the goal.
Rachel (00:06:03):
If you slip, that doesn't mean you have to burn down the restaurant.
Rachel (00:06:07):
You can, it's okay.
Rachel (00:06:08):
We can slip and we can put a bandaid on it and we can get back up and we can just
Rachel (00:06:13):
tell someone about it and acknowledge how you feel.
Colin (00:06:15):
Yeah, I agree.
Rachel (00:06:16):
So I said,
Rachel (00:06:17):
I look at the 90 days before I got sober and it was really just,
Rachel (00:06:21):
there were just seeds planted.
Rachel (00:06:23):
And Sober October was one of my seeds.
Rachel (00:06:26):
Yeah.
Rachel (00:06:26):
And it really just crushed me, which maybe I needed.
Rachel (00:06:29):
But again, you don't have to get in that headspace of all in or all out.
Rachel (00:06:33):
And I know that's what's all over social media.
Rachel (00:06:36):
So our Sober October is going to be a check-in.
Rachel (00:06:39):
So whether that is that you are in a row, you had a slip, whatever.
Rachel (00:06:43):
We're just going to say, hey, let's just check in for today.
Rachel (00:06:46):
It doesn't matter what happened yesterday.
Rachel (00:06:47):
It doesn't matter about tomorrow.
Rachel (00:06:49):
We're going to just do a daily check-in for Sober October.
Colin (00:06:52):
That's right.
Rachel (00:06:53):
Okay.
Rachel (00:06:53):
What else do you have to add?
Colin (00:06:54):
I was also thinking about this.
Colin (00:06:56):
Would you say, should you start on October 1st?
Colin (00:07:00):
Or would you say, if you can, start now?
Colin (00:07:02):
When should you start?
Rachel (00:07:03):
It's really up to the person.
Rachel (00:07:05):
It depends on where you're at.
Rachel (00:07:07):
I think some people have the mentality, it's a new month, new week, new start.
Colin (00:07:12):
No, and I think that's a great...
Rachel (00:07:13):
And you can and some others can be a start now,
Rachel (00:07:16):
but then you can also go you start now and then there's not a boundary.
Rachel (00:07:20):
And sometimes the boundary can be helpful.
Rachel (00:07:23):
I would say start if you're thinking about it.
Rachel (00:07:25):
Yeah, start now.
Colin (00:07:26):
Go for it.
Rachel (00:07:26):
100%.
Rachel (00:07:26):
And if that's what your gut is saying,
Rachel (00:07:29):
but as a psychology major,
Rachel (00:07:30):
I know that there are mental ups and downs.
Rachel (00:07:33):
It's the same with starting the gym at the beginning of the year,
Rachel (00:07:36):
starting to save at the beginning of the month.
Colin (00:07:37):
That was the other thing I was going to bring up, too.
Colin (00:07:40):
And I couldn't find it.
Colin (00:07:41):
But I know there was some quote by Kobe Bryant.
Colin (00:07:45):
He said something and it was along the lines of don't start tomorrow, start today.
Colin (00:07:50):
And I know a lot of people, not just addicts, but a lot of people find themselves stuck in this.
Colin (00:07:56):
Well, it's Saturday.
Colin (00:07:57):
I'm going to start Monday.
Rachel (00:07:58):
And then Monday comes in.
Colin (00:08:00):
Then they don't do it.
Colin (00:08:01):
Then it becomes I'll start tomorrow.
Colin (00:08:03):
Everything is starting tomorrow.
Rachel (00:08:04):
pressure it's the build up that's what i used to do when i was trying to quit
Rachel (00:08:09):
drinking and it was starting tomorrow it made me so anxious and then the anxiety
Rachel (00:08:14):
made me want to drink then it's this whole again it's the wash cycle that you never
Colin (00:08:19):
get out of or because you're starting tomorrow you're going to go all out tonight
Colin (00:08:23):
and then what happens tomorrow you feel awful awful so what's the only way to get
Colin (00:08:29):
better when you feel awful
Rachel (00:08:30):
It's to restart the cycle, rewash.
Rachel (00:08:32):
It's when you forget the laundry's in there overnight and you're like,
Rachel (00:08:35):
oh,
Rachel (00:08:35):
well,
Rachel (00:08:35):
I just got to rewash it and restart the cycle.
Colin (00:08:38):
So that's why that quote or that saying,
Colin (00:08:40):
and I wish I could find it,
Colin (00:08:41):
but it's there are some things that I don't want to do,
Colin (00:08:44):
whether it's finish the doing the dishes at night because I do waking up and not
Colin (00:08:49):
having to worry about it or some cleaning or project where you just think,
Colin (00:08:53):
well,
Colin (00:08:53):
I'll just I'll just do it tomorrow.
Colin (00:08:55):
But if I just do it now, then it's already done and out of the way.
Colin (00:08:58):
And I feel that's a small stepping stone where you're going in the right direction.
Rachel (00:09:02):
If you want to share, if you are participating in Sober October, what you're feeling.
Rachel (00:09:07):
Are you nervous?
Rachel (00:09:08):
Are you excited?
Rachel (00:09:09):
Are you happy?
Rachel (00:09:09):
Are you doing it with someone?
Rachel (00:09:11):
Because another thing that can help in sobriety is accountability.
Rachel (00:09:15):
A buddy that you can text that you're doing Sober October with.
Rachel (00:09:19):
So when you are craving a drink or you are...
Rachel (00:09:22):
in the moment where everyone's talking about getting drinks after work and you're
Rachel (00:09:25):
doing Sober October.
Rachel (00:09:27):
Also, first, remember there are non-alcoholic drinks out there.
Rachel (00:09:30):
I know I forgot that when I was drinking because I couldn't fathom why wasting
Rachel (00:09:34):
getting a non-alcoholic drink when they have alcohol.
Rachel (00:09:36):
But the other thing is you don't
Rachel (00:09:37):
have to tell anyone you're not drinking.
Rachel (00:09:39):
You don't have to tell anyone you're doing Sober October.
Rachel (00:09:41):
It can help to have someone.
Rachel (00:09:43):
And if you don't have someone, throw some comments down.
Rachel (00:09:46):
I'll reply to you.
Rachel (00:09:47):
If you comment and say,
Rachel (00:09:48):
hey,
Rachel (00:09:48):
I'm doing the Sober October and I'm having a little bit of a hard day,
Rachel (00:09:52):
I will comment and I will reply on the podcast post,
Rachel (00:09:55):
whatever the
Colin (00:09:56):
If you've done Sober October before, let us know how you did it, your thoughts on it.
Colin (00:10:01):
You're doing it again.
Rachel (00:10:02):
Because people that are not alcoholic,
Rachel (00:10:04):
there are some people that just do Sober October as a reset.
Colin (00:10:07):
And dry January.
Rachel (00:10:08):
Yeah.
Colin (00:10:09):
I know a lot of people that just do it just because they reset for the... They don't dread it.
Colin (00:10:14):
They actually a little bit... They're not heavy drinkers either.
Rachel (00:10:17):
That's the normal drinker.
Rachel (00:10:19):
When you tell a normal drinker that they don't that there's it's a dry wedding.
Rachel (00:10:23):
They don't talk shit what we used to.
Rachel (00:10:25):
Well, what's the point of having a wedding if it's not an open bar?
Rachel (00:10:28):
You know, fuck that wedding.
Rachel (00:10:29):
I don't want to go to that wedding.
Rachel (00:10:30):
And it's not about the people getting married or anything or the wedding itself.
Rachel (00:10:33):
It was a non-alcoholic wedding.
Rachel (00:10:35):
Boring.
Colin (00:10:36):
yeah and i also remember there was one time randomly i took it upon myself to just
Colin (00:10:41):
not drink for the month of april do you remember that it was it was when we started
Colin (00:10:45):
both of us oh you did and i was also i think i gave you not i think not you did and
Colin (00:10:50):
i wasn't sober from everything i just wasn't drinking that month but i remember
Colin (00:10:55):
telling a co-worker yeah i think i'm not gonna drink this month and they're just
Rachel (00:10:59):
okay cool yeah some people don't care they don't think about how
Colin (00:11:02):
And I was, you don't know how big of it.
Colin (00:11:04):
And I was, no, that's kind of a big deal for me.
Colin (00:11:07):
Not that I have a problem, but it's a big deal if I go a month.
Colin (00:11:10):
You know,
Colin (00:11:11):
looking back,
Colin (00:11:11):
as I said that,
Colin (00:11:12):
I was trying to cover my tracks as the person was,
Colin (00:11:15):
okay,
Colin (00:11:15):
you're not drinking for a month.
Colin (00:11:16):
What's the big deal?
Rachel (00:11:17):
Yeah.
Rachel (00:11:17):
To some people, they don't.
Rachel (00:11:19):
Yeah.
Rachel (00:11:19):
There's all different kinds, all different kinds of drinkers in this world.
Rachel (00:11:23):
And some, there's binge drinkers.
Rachel (00:11:25):
There's functional alcoholic drinkers.
Rachel (00:11:28):
There are all day drinkers.
Colin (00:11:30):
Daily drinkers, yeah.
Colin (00:11:31):
Yeah.
Rachel (00:11:31):
Yeah, I don't need to go down that list.
Rachel (00:11:32):
But the point is,
Rachel (00:11:33):
this podcast is built on personal experience about things that Colin and I have
Rachel (00:11:38):
gone through.
Rachel (00:11:39):
Sober October is one that hits home for me.
Rachel (00:11:41):
So maybe during April,
Rachel (00:11:43):
Colin can do something that hits home for him because I don't think this sober
Rachel (00:11:46):
October hit him the same as it did me.
Colin (00:11:49):
No, my goal was just, and you've heard me say this before, was to outlast you.
Colin (00:11:54):
Because when you suggested,
Colin (00:11:56):
let's do Sober October,
Colin (00:11:57):
I didn't really want to,
Colin (00:11:59):
but I also knew we wouldn't be doing Sober October.
Colin (00:12:02):
All I had to do was outlast you.
Colin (00:12:04):
And then I'd be, oh, you're twisting my arm.
Colin (00:12:06):
You bought a bottle of Jameson.
Colin (00:12:08):
Okay, I guess I'll drink it.
Rachel (00:12:09):
Yeah.
Rachel (00:12:09):
And because I didn't last,
Rachel (00:12:10):
but we ended up getting sober a month and change later and it did stick.
Rachel (00:12:15):
So again,
Rachel (00:12:16):
my goal of the October daily content is to have a quick check-in,
Rachel (00:12:21):
a quick laugh,
Rachel (00:12:23):
maybe some shout outs if people want to share their experience.
Rachel (00:12:26):
So that way we can have other outputs other than just ours.
Rachel (00:12:29):
Because as time goes on, while I can literally remember so vividly the first shot I took
Rachel (00:12:36):
when I was in Sober October.
Rachel (00:12:38):
I can't explain the fight in my head versus how easy, how hard, how defeated, how excited.
Rachel (00:12:44):
There was all these emotions and I can literally picture it right now.
Rachel (00:12:48):
And it was the biggest war in my head of just wanting to drink, but wanting to not drink.
Rachel (00:12:54):
And I wish there wasn't, that's the only thing I don't about Sober October, the pressure.
Rachel (00:12:57):
I hate the pressure, especially with social media.
Rachel (00:13:00):
Because then you post on social media,
Rachel (00:13:03):
you have a slip and now you feel you don't have a safe place.
Colin (00:13:05):
Yeah, I wouldn't know because I didn't.
Colin (00:13:07):
I mean, it was just one of those things where it's okay.
Colin (00:13:09):
Yeah, I'll be sober October.
Colin (00:13:10):
I wasn't posting.
Rachel (00:13:12):
I think with people saying they're alcoholic or sober in AA,
Rachel (00:13:15):
a lot of people will say they don't want to post on social media because what if
Rachel (00:13:19):
they end up drinking again?
Rachel (00:13:20):
And then, you know, someone brings it back up.
Rachel (00:13:22):
It's not their business.
Rachel (00:13:24):
It's okay to not want to drink for a little bit.
Rachel (00:13:26):
And it's okay.
Rachel (00:13:27):
Everyone has their own way of finding what they want to do.
Colin (00:13:31):
Journey.
Colin (00:13:32):
Is that what you're wanting to say?
Rachel (00:13:33):
Don't go back for seconds.
Rachel (00:13:52):
Don't go.
Rachel (00:13:52):
Yeah, we could.
Rachel (00:13:53):
Oh, no.
Colin (00:13:54):
I'm going to drink out of a bigger glass instead of a bunch of shot glasses.
Rachel (00:13:58):
No hard liquor, no wine, whatever.
Rachel (00:14:01):
And none of I just I can remember none of them worked there.
Rachel (00:14:05):
I've checked every single one off the list.
Rachel (00:14:07):
So let's make Sober October something fun.
Rachel (00:14:10):
And it can just be a we're going to sober October banter.
Colin (00:14:14):
Let's banter.
Rachel (00:14:15):
Let's banter for Sober October.
Rachel (00:14:17):
And we'll make it a positive, a fun reinforces that I made the right decision to get sober.
Colin (00:14:22):
Yes, I would agree.
Rachel (00:14:24):
Because a sick mind can't heal a sick mind.
Rachel (00:14:28):
So I was in a alcoholism mindset.
Rachel (00:14:31):
I can rationalize out of it.
Rachel (00:14:33):
But when you have a sober,
Rachel (00:14:35):
clear headed mind,
Rachel (00:14:36):
and you go see what that alcoholic mind was trying to convince you or rationalize
Rachel (00:14:41):
was okay,
Rachel (00:14:41):
you look back and laugh because you remember what your drunken mind was trying to
Rachel (00:14:45):
tell you was okay how this is normal.
Rachel (00:14:47):
This is what everyone does.
Rachel (00:14:49):
I'm just it was a hard day.
Rachel (00:14:50):
It was a long weekend.
Rachel (00:14:51):
Like,
Colin (00:14:51):
Whoa, it was a great day.
Rachel (00:14:52):
It was a great day, yeah.
Rachel (00:14:53):
And you come back with this clear mind after you've had some time away from
Rachel (00:14:57):
alcohol,
Rachel (00:14:58):
and you look back and you're like,
Rachel (00:14:59):
my God.
Rachel (00:15:01):
The rationalizations I threw on myself at that time,
Rachel (00:15:04):
and you see it now,
Rachel (00:15:05):
and it's just,
Rachel (00:15:06):
Colin and I find it funny.
Colin (00:15:07):
It's also the terminology that's used in every, it's 5 o'clock somewhere.
Rachel (00:15:12):
5 a.m.
Rachel (00:15:12):
somewhere, 5 p.m.
Rachel (00:15:13):
somewhere.
Colin (00:15:14):
Yeah.
Colin (00:15:15):
You can always find a reason to drink,
Colin (00:15:17):
and I think that's just this,
Colin (00:15:19):
whether it's through advertising maybe,
Colin (00:15:21):
It's just these sayings people have used forever and ever that just stick because
Colin (00:15:26):
they're fun to say when it's happy hour somewhere,
Colin (00:15:29):
those type of things.
Colin (00:15:30):
And as a culture, we've just gotten just been engraved in us.
Colin (00:15:34):
I feel like it's almost similar to cigarettes.
Colin (00:15:36):
Back in the 40s,
Colin (00:15:38):
50s,
Colin (00:15:38):
and 60s,
Colin (00:15:39):
it was just commonplace and everywhere until you fast forward through all the
Colin (00:15:44):
cancer and lawsuits.
Colin (00:15:46):
You can only find advertisements for cigarettes in one thing,
Colin (00:15:50):
and those are printed advertisements,
Colin (00:15:52):
and you can't even show them smoking.
Colin (00:15:54):
I don't know if we'll never get to that extreme with alcohol,
Colin (00:15:57):
but I feel it's starting to get close because even in commercials,
Colin (00:16:00):
you can't show people actually drinking.
Colin (00:16:02):
They just have them in their hands and things like that.
Rachel (00:16:05):
I did not know that.
Rachel (00:16:06):
But all right, we're going to go ahead and wrap this up.
Rachel (00:16:08):
Stay tuned.
Rachel (00:16:09):
We will have more updates to come during the week.
Rachel (00:16:12):
But until then, let us know what you think.
Colin (00:16:14):
And we're here for you.
Rachel (00:16:15):
We're here for you.
Rachel (00:16:17):
This is going to be the edition of Sober October Banter, hosted by Colin and Rachel.
Colin (00:16:24):
That's us.
Rachel (00:16:24):
That's us.
Rachel (00:16:25):
Okay.
Rachel (00:16:26):
Thank you for listening.
Rachel (00:16:27):
And we will... This is the Lord of the Rings ending.
Colin (00:16:30):
We could have wrapped it up a lot.
Colin (00:16:32):
Come on.
Colin (00:16:33):
Just say bye.
Colin (00:16:33):
Okay.