No parent wants to deal with emergency motion handling orders or duty judges on the holidays, but it happens. Stress can be high and the holidays – any holiday – can become a ripe place to pick a fight. So how do you avoid conflict to make the holidays still a special time for the kids?
The key is to do everything you can to avoid problems. Often, that means getting your ego out of the way so that you and your ex can make it about the kids. Avoid exchanges on travel days. Try to not split actual holidays, but if you have to, think about the activities of the day and plan accordingly. (In other words, if you’re splitting Christmas, do it in the afternoon so they can enjoy Christmas morning.) And do what you can to avoid escalation – perhaps you need to stay away from the eggnog until after you’ve dropped the kids off.
What about gifts? The kids were used to getting gifts from both parents. You don’t have to stop co-gifting just because you’re divorced. It may be what your child needs to feel safe around the holiday.
Seth and Pete offer lots of great advice. Tune in, and have yourself a happy and safe holiday season.
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Chapters
Welcome to How to Split a Toaster
Co-Parenting During the Holidays
Holiday Emergencies
Don't Exchange on Travel Days
Splitting Holidays
Points of Escalation
Gifts
Other Holidays
Avoid Conflict for the Kids
Lower Expectations
Enjoy the Holidays
‘Tis the Season... for Co-Parenting Conflict!
No parent wants to deal with emergency motion handling orders or duty judges on the holidays, but it happens. Stress can be high and the holidays – any holiday – can become a ripe place to pick a fight. So how do you avoid conflict to make the holidays still a special time for the kids?
The key is to do everything you can to avoid problems. Often, that means getting your ego out of the way so that you and your ex can make it about the kids. Avoid exchanges on travel days. Try to not split actual holidays, but if you have to, think about the activities of the day and plan accordingly. (In other words, if you’re splitting Christmas, do it in the afternoon so they can enjoy Christmas morning.) And do what you can to avoid escalation – perhaps you need to stay away from the eggnog until after you’ve dropped the kids off.
What about gifts? The kids were used to getting gifts from both parents. You don’t have to stop co-gifting just because you’re divorced. It may be what your child needs to feel safe around the holiday.
Seth and Pete offer lots of great advice. Tune in, and have yourself a happy and safe holiday season.
Stay safe and sober this holiday season with Soberlink. Co-parenting can be challenging, especially when alcohol abuse is a concern. Give yourself and your family the gift of peace of mind during the holidays by using Soberlink's remote alcohol monitoring system. Improve trust, accountability, and communication in your co-parenting arrangement. Visit their site today to learn more and get $50 off. Happy Holidays from Soberlink!
Creators & Guests
Host
Pete Wright
Podcaster and co-host, Pete Wright brings years of marriage and a spirit of curiosity to the divorce process. He's spent the last two decades interviewing experts and thinkers in emotional healing and brings that with him to the law, divorce, and saving relationships in the process.
Host
Seth R. Nelson
Seth Nelson is the founding attorney and managing partner at NLG Divorce & Family Law. He is a Tampa-based family lawyer known for devising creative solutions to difficult problems.
Producer
Andy Nelson
Hailing from nearly 25 years in the world of film, television, and commercial production, Andy has always had a passion for storytelling, no matter the size of the package.
What is How to Split a Toaster: A Divorce Podcast About Saving Your Relationships?
Seth Nelson is a Tampa based family lawyer known for devising creative solutions to difficult problems. In How to Split a Toaster, Nelson and co-host Pete Wright take on the challenge of divorce with a central objective — saving your most important relationships with your family, your former spouse, and yourself.
Pete Wright:
Hey, everybody. It's Pete. Welcome to how to split a toaster. Yes. We are still on our holiday break.
Pete Wright:
Happy New Year, as you are maybe hearing this. Hope you're doing something fun and rejuvenating this week. We're talking about co parenting during the holidays. Yeah. It's something you're living through right now, just maybe.
Pete Wright:
And Seth has some great ideas for how to handle this experience of coparenting and working well with your former spouse when it comes to your kids. So be well, and we will see you right back here next week. Welcome to how to split a toaster, a divorce podcast about saving your relationships from True Story FM. Today, sometimes you're a toaster. Sometimes you're the co toaster.
Seth Nelson:
Welcome to show, everybody. I'm Seth Nelson. As always, I'm here with my good friend, Pete Wright.
Pete Wright:
Happy holidays, Seth Nelson.
Seth Nelson:
Happy holidays.
Pete Wright:
Yeah. Feeling good. Feeling good.
Seth Nelson:
Let me tell you my favorite thing about the holidays.
Pete Wright:
Tell me.
Seth Nelson:
When I get emergency phone calls on Christmas Eve, love those.
Pete Wright:
Yeah. Where who who's the one who's usually calling you on Christmas Eve, those emergency calls?
Seth Nelson:
It's always parents Yeah. Arguing about pick up, drop off, what's going on. And first off, it's not gonna be emergency by the court.
Pete Wright:
Yeah. The court because the court is they're in Puerto Vallarta. Right? They're having an actual holiday.
Seth Nelson:
Exactly. Now you might not know this about the court system, but there is something called a duty judge.
Pete Wright:
That's like an RA on duty over the holidays?
Seth Nelson:
You got it.
Pete Wright:
The one who keeps the heat running?
Seth Nelson:
There's always a judge on duty. Okay. So and that will be for search warrants. It will be for emergency motions that are filed. There's always a duty judge.
Seth Nelson:
And so what will happen is on Christmas Eve, someone will call somebody about something, and some lawyer will file an emergency motion, which in Hillsborough County will be met with what's called an emergency motion handling order, which is the judge just saying the duty judge saying, is this an emergency? If so, I'm gonna deal with it right now, and I'm gonna do an order. Or is it not an emergency? Or and just set it in the normal course of business, we've talked about this. Get with your regular assigned judge, get some hearing dates, clear the hearing dates with opposing counsel, go on and on and on, and it goes from there.
Seth Nelson:
But let's say it's Christmas Eve, and you get a lawyer on the phone, and he files an emergency motion, and the judge grants it.
Pete Wright:
Okay.
Seth Nelson:
You got a piece of paper saying that you're right. You're supposed to go get the kids. Unless they in that order, it says the sheriff is supposed to go with you. I don't think it's gonna matter much.
Pete Wright:
So you're you're standing on the front lawn with this piece of paper and no support, most likely.
Seth Nelson:
Right. Dodging the reindeers.
Pete Wright:
So this is this seems like a recipe, first of all, for a nightmare situation, which is, to me, sounds like the holidays are already a ripe place to pick a fight. I mean, like, it that's the stereotype. Right? We're already gonna fight because families are coming together over the holidays trying to figure stuff out, and they're not even divorcing one another. So now you have this this you you you have to figure out how to co parent and are likely going to not get the support you may feel you deserve or merit from the court.
Pete Wright:
So that let's just to be really clear, I don't know what I'm talking about, but you both are, obviously, in the system, and you have coparented during the holidays after a divorce. So I I need you to tell me the basics now now that we've set the table with all of the the nonsense that could happen with the court, which all I'm thinking about right now is is judge Harry Stone from the most famous courtroom I ever knew.
Seth Nelson:
Night Court.
Pete Wright:
Night Court. There you go.
Seth Nelson:
Love that show.
Pete Wright:
Right? Yep. Yep. And and, you know, what are you going to do to make good coparenting decisions that support the kids, support the family in the state that it is as it's, you know, splitting up? Where do you where do you start to get your head right around this stuff?
Seth Nelson:
Well, the first thing I would suggest is tell you what not to do. Okay. As opposed to telling you what to do. And my not to do column is to prevent problems. And so when you're working on a parenting plan, do not have an exchange day on the same day that you're traveling.
Pete Wright:
Oh, okay. Alright.
Seth Nelson:
And what I mean by that is we all know the busiest traveling day of the year is the Wednesday before Thanksgiving.
Pete Wright:
Mhmm.
Seth Nelson:
So if I have Thanksgiving this year, one way to do that is to say, I get the children at 9 o'clock AM on Thanksgiving morning. Makes it a little hard to catch my 1 o'clock flight if the other parent's late or doesn't have the kids ready or there's a problem with the exchange.
Pete Wright:
Mhmm.
Seth Nelson:
So try your best not to exchange the children on a day that you're traveling. So how do you prevent that? When you do a parenting plan, you can define by agreement when the holiday starts and stops because we have Thanksgiving break, but then we have Thanksgiving day. So we just say, for Thanksgiving break, the regular schedule shall control until Tuesday at 6 PM. And at Tuesday at 6 PM, dad gets the pet the children for the remainder of Thanksgiving break in odd number years, and the mom gets in even number years.
Seth Nelson:
And this is just my hypothetical. So why do I do it Tuesday at 6 PM? Because then you have the option to travel on Wednesday, because it's fun doing that, the busiest travel day of the year.
Pete Wright:
Mhmm.
Seth Nelson:
But at least you're picking up the children the night before. You're packing them. You're getting them ready. You're making sure they have everything they need. If they you get them at 6 and you realize at 8 that they forgot their blanket at dad's, you can so or at mom's, you can solve that problem by going to get the blanket.
Pete Wright:
Yeah. You have you have a window.
Seth Nelson:
You do that exchange 9 o'clock and you got a 1 o'clock flight and you're on the way to the airport and you forgot the blanket, that blanket's not coming with you.
Pete Wright:
Right. Right. But but a lot of trauma.
Seth Nelson:
A lot of drama with the kids screaming
Pete Wright:
back. Yeah.
Seth Nelson:
Right? Right. Right.
Pete Wright:
What is the what is the sense like, I mean, a a lot of these I don't know. I'm I'm gonna speak globally, but I it's not fair, I'm sure. But a lot of kids have the whole week off, right, of Thanksgiving? Like, is there any sense of just saying when vacation starts, you pick a place?
Seth Nelson:
Yeah. So what happens a lot is is there's different ways to divide up holidays, and we have that whole podcast that we did about just podcast that we did about just holidays. But just as a refresher for people, you can divide the whole break. You can just say, mom gets even years the entire break, dad gets odd years, and it just flips back and forth. Or and this would happen a lot, or you can divide, hey, let's keep the regular schedule for a certain amount of the holiday break, like I just described in my hypothetical, but then we're gonna define it the rest of the way.
Seth Nelson:
Or take winter break, and we're gonna talk about Christmas Eve and Christmas day. So mom gets the first half in odd number years, dad gets the first half in even number in even number years, and the other parent gets the other half. But they want to split Christmas day.
Pete Wright:
Okay.
Seth Nelson:
A lot of families wanna do this. I try to prevent problems, so I'm always telling people, you want your kid to enjoy Christmas and not go back and forth. So I advise not to do it because it opens the door for conflict on Christmas day. Now remember, if you're in town and you wanna do it, you can always do it even if the parenting plan says otherwise. But a lot of people say, no.
Seth Nelson:
I wanna see my kid on Christmas day. So, here's my suggestion on Christmas day. First off, whoever has Christmas Eve is obviously gonna have Christmas morning. But do the exchange in the afternoon, like around 2 o'clock. Because you don't want your kid waking up, opening up their gifts, and then having to leave at 10 AM.
Seth Nelson:
Right. They don't get to enjoy Christmas morning and sitting around in the funny pajamas that we all get and playing with their new toys. So then the parent that gets them at 2 o'clock keeps them overnight till the next day at 2 o'clock, or they just keep them for the remainder of the holiday. But remember, whoever gets the first half will have Christmas Eve and Christmas day. Whoever gets the second half of winter break is gonna have New Year's Eve and New Year's Day.
Pete Wright:
Oh, okay. Alright. Yeah. You get a little holiday hopscotch.
Seth Nelson:
So you get a little holiday. Right? It's a little exchange.
Pete Wright:
It it brings up the the question of, you know, we're looking for for reasons where escalation might occur occur. It seems to bring up things around, like, specific familial ceremonies and meal time that tends to be very important for folks. And, you know, generally, are you are you doing, a Christmas eve dinner or Christmas morning or Christmas Christmas day afternoon, early dinner? Like, how how that happens? If there's a reason to fight, it's gonna be you brought me my my kid full, and they're not participating in the in the in in our mealtime tradition.
Seth Nelson:
Happens all the time. And that's one of the reasons why you don't split the day because your kid has to sit nicely at the table twice, not just once. Right? And they're not eating at 1, or they eat too much, or now their stomach hurts. There's all these problems that arise.
Seth Nelson:
Not to mention that in the middle of the day, you know, they're having funs with they're having fun with their cousins, and then they gotta leave. So and and remember, nobody cares. The court doesn't care. The lawyers shouldn't care if you decide to do this anyway, even though your parenting plan says you have the full day. So you can always make agreements, be flexible with the plan.
Seth Nelson:
So that's just where my default is. I know a lot of parents wanna see the kids on Christmas day. So when you're doing that, my suggestion is make it later in the day, have the parent, you know, coming to get the child, beginning their time sharing, do the pickup because you're gonna be on time. The other parent might not be. Right?
Seth Nelson:
If someone's drinking, like, hey, you're not gonna drink when you're gonna pick up your kid, but if you're the one dropping off, and everyone's having eggnog in the morning, and they're gonna participate, that could be a problem. So you wanna be the one doing the driving.
Pete Wright:
Gifts. Coparenting ideas around sane gift giving.
Seth Nelson:
Okay.
Pete Wright:
How'd you handle this?
Seth Nelson:
So let's start what happens when you're married. Kids are little. Who do they get gifts from? Santa
Pete Wright:
Mhmm.
Seth Nelson:
And mom and dad. Why does gifts for mom and dad have to stop just because you're divorced? They don't. But parents rarely do that. It's now a gift from mom and at dad's, it's a gift from dad.
Seth Nelson:
But sometimes it's nice to have a gift from both parents.
Pete Wright:
Got it. The gift
Seth Nelson:
from both parents. It's a joint gift. And there should be a joint gift from mom and dad that's at mom's house, and there could be a joint gift from mom and dad at dad's house. And so some preplanning and communication helps. By way of example, if you're getting a bicycle, you're gonna want the kid to ride the bicycle at both houses.
Seth Nelson:
Why not get the same bike? And then it's not a bike from mom or a bike from dad. These 2 bikes are from mom and dad, because kids learn to ride a bike. So it could it doesn't have to be a bike. I'm just saying by way of example.
Seth Nelson:
There can be small gifts at each house from mom and dad, because that's the way that you show your kid. You both love her. You both love your kid. You're both giving them a gift just as if you were if you're married because to that kid, you're still the parents. It doesn't matter that you're not married.
Pete Wright:
Well and if you if you if we ask the question specifically around escalation and de escalation, the isn't the trope that you're buying attention by separating the gifts. Mom buys a bunch of gifts. Dad buys a bunch of gifts. We're we're looking for you know, there's some sort of unconscious team upsmanship.
Seth Nelson:
Absolutely. It happens all the time. And, also, there's usually an imbalance of wealth after a divorce. Right? Someone's receiving alimony, and people are annoyed that they're paying the alimony check or you get your child support check.
Seth Nelson:
But a little preplanning and saying, look, Christmas is coming up. I would like to have some sort of level of gift giving that we can agree upon. Or if you're gonna be giving a larger gift, it would be nice if I could, you know, you could put my name on that gift too, even if maybe I don't give 50% of the gift. And, like, it's not about the money, it's about that you are focused on your kid. So if I wanna give my kid a big gift, let's say they're in middle school, and they've been dying for that phone, and they're gonna get the new iPhone, what's wrong with putting mom's name on that gift?
Seth Nelson:
Nothing. Your kid still gets it. Now, if you're looking for the credit, you know, because you wanna control that phone and have the power, then get your ego out of the way. Let's focus on the kid.
Pete Wright:
Well and that gets to, again, opportunities to deescalate usually start with ego. Right. Right? Like you say, getting it out of the way. I, you know, I like the I the the the bike discussion because, you know, if you have the means and the resources to have a bike at both places, that that solves a a very practical challenge too, which is just we don't wanna lug a bike back and forth.
Seth Nelson:
It won't get taken back and forth. One parent's gonna keep the bike and the kid goes without bike riding for a week.
Pete Wright:
Yeah. Right.
Seth Nelson:
Doesn't sound like fun.
Pete Wright:
No. Doesn't sound like a lot of fun, especially in the months right after Christmas when the bike is still new.
Seth Nelson:
That's right.
Pete Wright:
Alright. We've been talking about sort of presumptively around Thanksgiving and Christmas, but other holiday structures to consider Hanukkah, that seems to be more complicated to me. Why? Because there's 8 days. It's just There's so
Seth Nelson:
that seems to be more complicated to me. Why? Because there's 8 days. It just, There's
Pete Wright:
so many days, man. I mean, the only benefit is there's they're even, I guess. But Yeah.
Seth Nelson:
I'm like, which way do you light the candles on the menorah? It's so confusing. Okay.
Pete Wright:
That's why I'm very confused by
Seth Nelson:
So, okay, so here's the deal. It's not that Hanukkah in and of itself is difficult because typically in the Jewish religion, like, the first night is the most important or the second night. And, you know, we kind of have these things kinda laid out. And those are just traditions, not real religious saying that one day at Hanukkah is more important than the other.
Pete Wright:
Okay.
Seth Nelson:
The real problem comes when
Pete Wright:
I just like hearing you say we have it laid out. Like, we of the Jewish faith, we have it like you, but you're on the board, and
Seth Nelson:
you speak to it. For all of Judaism.
Pete Wright:
Would you speak for all of Judaism, please?
Seth Nelson:
But I'm only gonna do it in Yiddish and Hebrew so no one can understand. Okay?
Pete Wright:
If if you understand, you know who you are.
Seth Nelson:
Exactly. And you know that I'll be wrong on what
Pete Wright:
I'm saying. Right.
Seth Nelson:
So the problem is when these holidays overlap, first night of Hanukkah happens to be Christmas Eve. So the way you try to really do that in your parenting plan is to understand that look. What do we do if there's a conflict? Which holiday will prevail on which year? And don't just start arguing about this when you're doing a parenting plan about the what ifs.
Seth Nelson:
Because you can Google and say, how often in the next 10 years where Hanukkah and Christmas overlapped? Because people argue about it. And then I'll look on the calendar, and I said, it happens once and your kid will be 17. Do we really care?
Pete Wright:
Right. Right.
Seth Nelson:
So you wanna avoid these issues because settling the case is hard enough as it is. It's even harder when you're dealing with what ifs. So always define what you're arguing about. Now here's the bottom line, kids don't care. They don't care what day they get gifts.
Seth Nelson:
Okay? You can do 3rd night of Hanukkah and treat it like it's 1st night of Hanukkah.
Pete Wright:
Mhmm.
Seth Nelson:
The kid will be just as happy. Now I'll share a story about Kai.
Pete Wright:
Kai, your son?
Seth Nelson:
My son. When he was little, 4 or 5 years old, think about 4. And just the way the schedule worked, he was gonna be at his mom's for the first five nights of Hanukkah for whatever reason. And he comes and he's talking to me and he goes, dad, do you know what's happening on Hanukkah? I said, yeah, we would light menorahs, we sing songs, we have family dinners, you know, we make latkes.
Seth Nelson:
He's like, no. I'm at mom's for the first five nights. So when I come to you on the 6th night, am I getting the 6th gifts? Because I didn't get the 5 gifts for the days I was at mom. I'm like, nope.
Seth Nelson:
That's not how it works. There's 8 nights of Hanukkah, not 16 nights of Hanukkah.
Pete Wright:
Right. Exactly.
Seth Nelson:
I said, but I do appreciate the math. Yeah.
Pete Wright:
The math and the intention. He is your son after all. Like, tell me you didn't you wouldn't have made the same just the same I
Seth Nelson:
would have made the same argument. Yeah. No. Here's the deal, though. The point I'm raising here is don't over gift.
Seth Nelson:
Right? Don't over gift. And having these communications is really important. So if you can communicate about what kind of stuff you're getting and, hey, what am I giving? What are you giving?
Seth Nelson:
You know, we don't wanna, like, load the kid up with all the clothes at both houses because we didn't communicate, but got no video games, and we don't wanna give all video games and know of something else. So a little communication goes a long ways. And I would even extend that to the grandparents and other people buying your kids gift. Like, hey, you know, we got the bike covered this year or whatever. So this always comes back communication.
Seth Nelson:
It comes back to thinking this stuff through. It comes back to being proactive and trying to deal with this stuff on the front end, not the back, and and go from there.
Pete Wright:
That message is really important. The idea that you have as co parents an opportunity to set expectations in advance even with your young children. You you can you can make a story that actually is believable and loving and heartwarming that helps them navigate complicated holiday splits too.
Seth Nelson:
But to your point, there's other holidays. There's spring break. There's birthdays, Easter, Passover. There's all sorts of different holidays. All these same suggestions that I'm giving all apply.
Seth Nelson:
For example, mother's day. We don't really necessarily think of that as a holiday. It's on a Sunday, but what happens there is I would do the exchange on Saturday night at 6 o'clock, and then you drop the kid off at school the following Monday. Why do I do that? Because if it's dad's weekend and mom has mother's day from 9 AM to 9 PM, hey.
Seth Nelson:
The problem there is you're gonna see your ex spouse twice on that day. Yeah. And your kid doesn't get to get up early, make your bad breakfast and bread, and give you a trinket. But when we talk about conflicts, June is when father's day is. June's in the summer months.
Seth Nelson:
You gotta make sure that your parenting plan says that mom can't pick that weekend of Father's Day as one of her travel weekends because now there's a conflict. Mom gets to pick travel not a number of years, but she picks Father's Day, but Father's Day is obviously going with dad. So and I know we're right in the the current holiday season with Thanksgiving and Christmas and Hanukkah and New Year's, and and so we wanna give some pointers there.
Pete Wright:
Message is the same. Right? Because all of these problems are more easily solved and more easily deescalated when you're able to look at the calendar ego free and say, what is the what is the solution here that offers the most love for the kid and gives the kid the most opportunity to share love with the parent as appropriate?
Seth Nelson:
Which is spending quality time with you. Yeah. And that's my point about going back and forth. Now I'm not look. I've done thousands of parenting plans where they split Christmas.
Seth Nelson:
Sure. And I just, like, say, hey. Just think about this. Is this more for you, or is it for your kid? And I appreciate that it could be for you, and that is okay.
Seth Nelson:
I'm not saying that it's not okay that you wanna spend Christmas with your kid, but let's do it without conflict.
Pete Wright:
Yeah. Yeah. Any other tips? Hot tips. Hot hot tips.
Pete Wright:
Things you absolutely should not do as you go into the holiday season as a co parent. Don't call your lawyer the night on Christmas Eve. That's we already got that out the door.
Seth Nelson:
Yeah. No conflict. No conflict. Whatever is happening is not worth the conflict for your kid. You don't want your kid being in 20 years old, 30 years old, you know, having kids of their own saying, man, I am not gonna have conflict during the holidays because I lived through that conflict, and I never enjoyed Christmas.
Pete Wright:
Yeah. Because my memory is invariably my parents fighting on the front yard.
Seth Nelson:
That's right. That is the absolute key, and parents will go crazy if they're not getting their kid. I I hear it. I appreciate it. I appreciate where you're coming from.
Seth Nelson:
We can deal with it later, and you can say, you know what? I'm gonna celebrate Christmas on the 28th, and I'm gonna I'm gonna crush it for that kid. And I get. If you didn't get your kid on the 25th when you're supposed to, you don't get until the 28th, you're gonna be super pissed. But instead of spending money on your lawyer, I would tell you save that money and fine.
Seth Nelson:
Go do extra gift buying. Right? But, that that's really the key is the least amount of conflict as possible. And one way to do that is to set low expectations. Don't think everything's gonna be perfect.
Seth Nelson:
Plan that it's gonna be Christmas Eve or Christmas day or you're going to mass and the other parents dropping off the kid, and that kid's not gonna be bathed or fed or have the proper clothes. Plan ahead. That is the key. You want things to be as smooth as possible. So you have less conflict so your kid can really enjoy the holidays.
Pete Wright:
So go enjoy the holidays, everybody. We are on the we're ready to do that ourselves. And, we encourage you to deescalate, relax, you'll figure it out. And if you can't figure it out for real, judge Harry Stone has your back.
Seth Nelson:
He'll he'll do a parenting plan, like, in no time.
Pete Wright:
Oh, yeah. Midnight court session?
Seth Nelson:
Exactly. Bringing the kid in at midnight. Right. You might do midnight mass right there.
Pete Wright:
Harry Stone is a capable, capable jurist.
Seth Nelson:
What is That's
Pete Wright:
all I'm saying.
Seth Nelson:
Do you think that's even on reruns these days?
Pete Wright:
Oh, yeah. Oh, sure. Night court? Night court? Of course.
Pete Wright:
Oh. Great show. Please. Oh. We're gonna you know what?
Pete Wright:
We should do a whole episode where we do where we cover, all of our favorite night court moments.
Seth Nelson:
The rulings on night court.
Pete Wright:
I think I
Seth Nelson:
think many of them got appealed to the United States Supreme Court.
Pete Wright:
Yeah. Harry Stone's very popular among the, among supreme court
Seth Nelson:
It's the only thing the justices would agree on is overturning that guy.
Pete Wright:
Right? What you don't know is RBG had a picture of of Ari Anderson on her wall right behind her desk. You didn't know that. You thought it was just all blind justice and scales. But, no, Harry Anderson.
Seth Nelson:
I gotcha. You got me on that one. You got me on that one. Listen, everybody. Have a great holiday.
Seth Nelson:
Focus on your kid. Keep it calm. Not a lot of conflict. Try to recharge and and not have it be about all the extra stuff. Focus on the quality time, and that's what your kid will remember.
Pete Wright:
Create those memories, people, but only the good ones. Create the good ones for the holiday season. Thank you, Seth Nelson. Have a great holiday season yourself.
Seth Nelson:
Yeah. I'm kind of subdued today. I'm already kind of in that mood.
Pete Wright:
You are? You're chilling. You're ready.
Seth Nelson:
Just chilling. Bring out
Pete Wright:
the little spiked eggnog. It's gonna be great.
Seth Nelson:
That's what all the nice Jewish boys like to drink on the 1st night of Hanukkah. Right next to the man of Shevitz. That's right.
Pete Wright:
Right next to the man of Shevitz. That's right. Thanks, everybody, for hanging out with us. We appreciate your time and attention. Don't forget, you can send your holiday related questions or otherwise to the show, how to split a toaster.com/ask a question.
Pete Wright:
That'll get to us. And, we'd love to hear from you. Have a safe holiday season. We'll catch you next time right here on How to Split a Toaster, a divorce podcast about saving your relationships.
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Seth Nelson is an attorney with NLG divorce and family law with offices in Tampa, Florida. While we may be discussing family law topics, how to split a toaster is not intended to nor is it providing legal advice. Every situation is different. If you have specific questions regarding your situation, please seek your own legal counsel with an attorney licensed to practice law in your jurisdiction. Pete Wright is not an attorney or employee of NLG Divorce and Family Law.
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Seth Nelson is licensed to practice law in Florida.
