Pete Wright:
Welcome to "How to Split a Toaster," a divorce podcast about saving your relationships from True Story FM. Today, how do you break the news?
Seth Nelson:
Welcome to the show, everyone. I'm Seth Nelson with my good friend Pete Wright. It's going to be a tough conversation today, Pete, because we're talking about how do you tell your friends and family what you're about to go through?
Pete Wright:
Oh man, this is dodgeball all over again. I'm in fifth grade and I have-
Seth Nelson:
Did you get picked last Pete? Yes. I see it.
Pete Wright:
All right, I know I opened the door, but I'm going to close it again. This is very uncomfortable.
Seth Nelson:
I thought you'd never good arm, though. You seem to me like a guy with a good arm. Maybe not the defense, but offense, you had it.
Pete Wright:
No, pick Pete. He can take it in the face. That's what I heard was my slogan. We are, we're talking about what you're experiencing as you're getting a divorce. How do you tell your parents and your family and what does the experience look like because I have to imagine there are a lot of people on the verge standing on that 10 meter board saying, "Oh my goodness. Part of the reason I can't jump is I just don't want to deal with the family."
Seth Nelson:
It is rough. I actually talked to my mom about this and I told her I was actually considering having her as a guest on the show.
Pete Wright:
Oh, that would be great.
Seth Nelson:
No, no, no. See, my girlfriend wisely said, "You better talk to her first and figure out what she's going to say."
Pete Wright:
You don't get pre-interview your mom.
Seth Nelson:
Well, then she's not coming on the show. I'm telling you now. We talked about a little bit about how grandparents, and there aren't really rights and all that stuff. Previously, the hardest thing about telling your family, in my view,` is how they're going to respond. Most people view the world as how does it impact them and then they will push that out onto you. One thing is not just, how do you tell them, but it's what do you tell them?
Pete Wright:
Okay. All of this is suddenly coming very clear to me. If I may, when we talk about the fact that there are no rights for grandparents and aunts and uncles and all of those sort of relationships. When you get a divorce, you continue to have a determination of rights with your kids, right? But what you're doing, you're changing that relationship, you're not taking anything away from you. When you're talking about extended family, you are actually changing something that they can't get back. You're taking something away from them that they can't get back, and that is hard. Yeah.
Seth Nelson:
Forever in their conversation, right. Forever in their conversation moving forward will always be when they're making plans, family plans, it's now not just, "Oh, we got to check in and see if you're available." It's, "Seth, do you have Kai?"
Pete Wright:
Yeah.
Seth Nelson:
"If not, can you get Kai?" There's all those dynamics.
Pete Wright:
Yeah.
Seth Nelson:
But, I think even before you get there, right? Are they going to be disappointed in you? Are they going to think that they did something wrong in raising you? Like, "Oh my God, you're the only one in our family to get a divorce. What do we do wrong?"
Pete Wright:
Yeah. You don't keep your promises. You made an oath. Where did we lose you in the values morals road?
Seth Nelson:
Exactly. Also, it's always going to be jumping into that very difficult question of why. Most of these conversations are difficult because people don't tend to explain what they need from their friends and their family. Instead of getting into why and who's to blame, a different way to approach this is, "This is what's going on in my life. I am going through a divorce. I assure you I've done everything I could to make this marriage work for me, for my spouse, and especially for the kids," if you have them. "But here's what I need from you while I go through this process." You make a request to your friends and your family about what you need.
You know how you always talk about Bridezilla when you're getting married. [crosstalk 00:05:01]. Literally, this can almost be the opposite. It's, "This is what I need. This isn't my special day and I get it the way I want. I'm telling you emotionally, this is what I need from you when I go through this." I polled some friends who have gone through divorces.
Pete Wright:
Oh, excellent.
Seth Nelson:
And talked to them about what they experienced with their friends and family. The big thing that I got, the big takeaway I got, is if they haven't gone through it, they just don't understand. If they've gone through it, they might understand, but then they might want to relive their divorce. "Oh yeah, I did that. But my husband was worse, he did this."
Pete Wright:
That natural sort of human tendency to make it about you. Like you said, suddenly-
Seth Nelson:
Exactly.
Pete Wright:
"The way I support you is by telling you about how hard I had it."
Seth Nelson:
Right. So here are some that you might want to ask your parents, your relatives, your friends, not to do. Do not be totally angry at the other spouse. Don't put gas on the fire. It's not necessarily helpful to say, "Oh yeah, he's the problem." Right?
Pete Wright:
Right. No, not helpful, and I would imagine incredibly difficult not to do because how do you know what to do with an emotion when you're a grandparent, a parent and you actually like the former spouse.
Seth Nelson:
That's another flip-side is the best answers don't take sides. You're supportive. Obviously everyone's like, "Well, you have to take a side."
"No, I am going to support you, and if maybe you need financial help during the divorce, maybe you need emotional health, maybe you need me to pick up the kids more. Maybe you need a place to crash. Maybe you can't make our family vacation and I'm not going to guilt you about it."
Try not to take sides. Be supportive, but not judgemental. So you can ask them, "Please be supportive of what I'm going through. Here are some things that I'm going to need from you, but please do not judge me. Do not judge my soon to be former spouse. This is going to be hard enough."
If you want to talk about getting through it, go talk to a mental health counselor. You want to complain about your former spouse. Go talk to a mental health counselor. They will try to be helpful. Your friends and your family, I don't know any of them that are going to purposely hurt you, but they're trying to help you, but they may not be. It may not be helpful.
Pete Wright:
What does that look like? Trying to help you and having it not be helpful.
Seth Nelson:
Totally bashing the other side. "You're absolutely right. We never liked him. You should have left them earlier."
Pete Wright:
That seems worse.
Seth Nelson:
Yeah. That's not necessarily helpful. There's actually cards I think on Hallmark now.
Pete Wright:
Divorce cards?
Seth Nelson:
Yeah. Like never liked them.
Pete Wright:
Yeah.
Seth Nelson:
You know? I mean, it's not about them. It's about you. Now, you can acknowledge, "Look, I appreciate that you're going to have emotions to this. You're worried about seeing the grandkids and you're going to want to do this, this, and that. I just don't have the bandwidth to deal with those emotions right now. I can't be your support person. I need you, the parents, the friends to be my support people." That role can get reversed. They might get involved in the proceedings. They might be called to get deposed.
Pete Wright:
Right, of course.
Seth Nelson:
Or they might be in the trial.
Pete Wright:
We're talking about all this emotional stuff and I forgot we're talking about the law.
Seth Nelson:
Yes. So anything you're talking to them about might come back and bite you later. So you don't necessarily want to share. You certainly don't want to over share. I have taken depositions of parents, of people getting divorced. They've been in trials. I've done cross-examinations. You want to try to leave them out of that process. If they're true and honest, sometimes they're going to stay stuff in your case that's going to hurt your case. "Oh yeah, he always took the kids on Saturday to soccer. He's a good parent. Or he was a good provider." If they're telling the truth, usually there are some positive things that we all have qualities for and a lot of negatives, but going through the process. So be careful about what you're telling them because they might have to repeat that in court. You can acknowledge that it's a grieving process for you and it's a grieving process for them. Just be aware, they're going to be angry. They're going to be anxious. They're going to bargain.
Pete Wright:
One of the things we talked about in shows past is what you should do regarding your posting to social media. When you have private conversations or family group conversations, do you need to be worried about, or at least consider it about, electronic communications that are private amongst the family?
Seth Nelson:
Yeah, because they're not private from discovery.
Pete Wright:
I think that's an important thing to remember, right?
Seth Nelson:
Right.
Pete Wright:
That now, suddenly, it's not just at the next family picnic, it's anything you say over text or Facebook, private group, or whatever. All of it is available.
Seth Nelson:
All of it is what we call in the law, discoverable. That we might be able to get it and find it. I cannot tell you how many text message threads that I've read with photos and-
Pete Wright:
Horrible.
Seth Nelson:
They're terrible. My typical question in a deposition, and then in a trial, when someone sends something hateful or mean if there's kids involved, I'll ask the parent, "How is, if at all, this helpful in co-parenting with your soon to be former spouse?
Pete Wright:
Right. Not at all.
Seth Nelson:
Right.
Pete Wright:
Okay, because that also to me, just given the nature of electronic communications right now with family, I think that is another thing that can change that dynamic, the social dynamic. Once you sort of find your... You have to distance yourself from being as candid as you might otherwise be during the trial that I imagine that could also affect relationships.
Seth Nelson:
Yes. They want to be there. They want you to use them as a support, let's say, and they want you to tell them everything or they're overbearing. Now they come in and they're trying to cook dinner the time and come on over. Sometimes you just... It's okay to be sad. It's okay to say, "I'm going to be set tonight. I'm also going to be anxious." These are just feelings that you're having, that doesn't have to be the overwhelming of your personality, but you're allowed to say, "I'm feeling sad tonight. I'm going to be okay with that."
So just think about that when you're talking to them, when you're doing electronic communication. A little space for you might be not such a bad idea, or if you're going to be around them, let's not make it all about your divorce all the time.
Pete Wright:
That gets us through the family part of breaking the news. Then we get to the friends.
Seth Nelson:
So friends, like you said before, you divide your friends.
Pete Wright:
Now you say that as if that's the only option. Is that the only option? The friends just get split.
Seth Nelson:
It's not the only option, especially if you're not bashing people. One thing that people don't tend to understand when someone asks them, "Why are you getting a divorce?" You're not required to answer that question.
Pete Wright:
Oh, Oh really?
Seth Nelson:
Right.
Pete Wright:
Yeah. That's a sign of great stress when you're faced with that question, I imagine. And people forget-
Seth Nelson:
Right, why are you getting divorced? [crosstalk 00:13:18] First off, very rarely will someone say, "Because I really messed up."
Pete Wright:
Yeah, right.
Seth Nelson:
That's just asking to bash the other side. So you can just say, "Two people can be in love and no longer be in love or two people could still be in love, but it doesn't work out." Or, "You know what? That's a great question. I just don't really want to talk about that."
Pete Wright:
Can we just table it for some time-
Seth Nelson:
Yeah.
Pete Wright:
Other time, ever, indefinite.
Seth Nelson:
"That's a great question and that's why I'm seeing a mental health counselor," but you don't have to answer. "I appreciate your concern, it's just not a topic I want to discuss."
Pete Wright:
"I'm not ready."
Seth Nelson:
Right. "I'm not ready to go there." There's all sorts of things you can do to not answer the question and don't feel obligated because that's people's... Tends to be like, "Oh my God, I'm so sorry to go on and do that. What happened?" It sounds caring and concerning and being supportive, but it's not necessarily a good idea to get into the details.
Pete Wright:
Well, so if we turn that question though. Let's just say that it's hard to find the kind of support that you might feel like you need from your family because family baggage and for some people, it's a best friend, best friends scenario, where you actually do need some support. You need to lean on somebody. Once again, how do you position your experience with your friends to tell them what you need and also set some very clear boundaries?
Seth Nelson:
What you need is help getting through the process. You don't need help in fixing the relationship that's over now. So, "Hey, you know, this is going to be a really stressful time. I'm going to be worried about money. I'm going to be worried about seeing my kids and what the parenting plan is. I'm sure that the spouse can say all these hateful things in text messages."
If you say, "I want to vent to you," remember all that stuff could come back out. "But really what I need you to do is let's go out and have a nice night." "Let's have a girls' night." "Guys. let's go to the game." Whatever it is that you like to do and try to... It's difficult. It is so difficult what I'm about to say. Live your life, not your divorce.
Pete Wright:
Okay. Yeah.
Seth Nelson:
Live your life, not your divorce. Most people live their divorce.
Pete Wright:
For at least a while.
Seth Nelson:
Yes. Certainly during the process. It consumes them. I get it. I've been through one. I have represented clients. I've been with clients preparing for a trial and depositions and not understanding the law. I understand. I appreciate what you're going through, but when you are at an event with your friends, there is nothing you can do on a Saturday night about your divorce. Don't live it. Enjoy the moment. Live in the moment.
When you are meeting with your lawyer, be focused on that. Then when you're done, when you have your homework to do for your lawyer, be focused on that. Try not to multitask, clear it all out. I'm going to deal with this. Don't get paralyzed by it all and keep putting it off and have it weight on you. Your lawyer is asking you for some financial documents. There's a huge list. Say I'm going to spend an hour today. I'm going to get as much done as I can. I'm going to get it to my lawyer and then I'm going to move on. When I'm at the soccer game with my kid and my former spouse or soon to be spouse is there, I'm going to focus on my kid.
Pete Wright:
Ahem.
Seth Nelson:
I'm going to watch that game. I'm going to put down my phone. I'm not going to text a friend as like, "Oh my God, I can't believe he's here. Never showed up to a game before, now he's all of a sudden here." So what are you doing? You're not focused on your kid. Put your phone down.
Pete Wright:
I really like this. Separating the living your life versus living your divorce and being super clear about what you need in the divorce process. That it's probably okay to say, "You know what I really need more than just you asking me to vent my story is I need you to help me move some furniture. I need you to help me. I need some advice. Can we go look for places today? I'd like a second set of eyes on a new place to live." The practical motions of a divorce, not the sort of emotional stuff.
Seth Nelson:
Absolutely, and most people will say, "Well my friends are there to emotionally support you." They can do that by helping you get through the process.
Pete Wright:
Yeah. It's the process that's heavy.
Seth Nelson:
Right. Or, "Hey, I'm working late. Can you pick up the kids? Can they have a sleepover? I'm having a bad day." I agree with you, the practical stuff. You don't want to air your dirty laundry, right? You just don't know how that might come back and really bite you later. For example, sometimes people will want the emotional support of going to talk to a lawyer. So if they come in and that lawyer lets your friend in to that initial consultation that we talked about way back in one of our first episodes, here's what you should be doing. We might have a problem on attorney-client privilege.
Pete Wright:
Explain that.
Seth Nelson:
Well, why don't we define a term from Black's Law dictionary and then we'll circle back on it. See how I did that, Pete?
Pete Wright:
You did. That was so good. Oh, let's hit the books.
Seth Nelson:
Okay. Defining a term from Black's Law Dictionary, Eighth Edition. Attorney-client privilege, the client's right to refuse to disclose and to prevent any other person from disclosing confidential communications between the client and the attorney. That's the definition. The issue is what is a confidential communication or confidential information. It's anything that you say to your lawyer or your lawyer says to you.
However, you have to be careful on where it is said and how it said. What I mean by that, if you're on your cell phone at a restaurant talking to your lawyer, that is not a confidential communication when the waiter is over hearing you because you're out in the public domain. "Yeah, I heard her say this, Everybody..." Just because I was talking to my lawyer, that's not necessarily a protected cause you don't have a right to privacy when you're out there. So some jurisdictions will let that come in and say, "Yeah, this is where I heard him tell his lawyer."
Others will be like, "No, he was talking to his lawyer. You can't talk about that." So you have to be careful, but I will tell you this. If you bring in, in the great state of Florida, here I go, Pete, check your local jurisdiction with the lawyer that's licensed to practice law in your jurisdiction. You bring a friend into that initial consultation, that is not confidential. They can ask you everything that you said to that lawyer and what your lawyer said to you because there's a third party sitting right there. So when they have them come in, I'm like, "I appreciate you being here, but if you walk into this room, nothing we say is protected under that privilege."
So one of the questions I ask when I take a deposition of a party, "Have you ever met with you more with the third party that doesn't work at that law firm?" "Yep." "Who was it?" "Oh, it was my sister." "When was that? Do you have any notes from that conversation? Does your lawyer have any notes?"
Now you've just opened the flood gates, so you really need to be careful about that. When you tell somebody else what your lawyer said, you've now potentially eliminated the attorney-client privilege. In how many texts go from one spouse to another that says, "my lawyer says?" Be careful what you're texting, be careful with trying, keep it confidential. If you're living your life and not your divorce, that helps. Hard to do, easy to say.
Pete Wright:
All right, Seth, working with your lawyer, what are the kinds of things that you hear supportive family and friends asking to do? Is there anything that is in the context of being a supportive family friend that is actually okay?
Seth Nelson:
Of course there are. It's just how it's done and how it's documented. So a common thing is, "Well, I don't have money for this. Can my family lend me money for this? Or can they pay for you as a lawyer? Can they pay my bills?" So check with the lawyer in your local jurisdiction, of course, but for example, in Florida, I'm like, "Well, yes they can, but let's be clear about what they're doing. Is this a gift? Is it a loan? If it's a loan, let's make sure we have a note, a piece of paper that says it's a loan at this interest rate, and this is how it's going to be paid back."
Pete Wright:
Right, right. Because that stuff matters in Florida?
Seth Nelson:
It matters, I think everywhere, but it matters for a couple of reasons. One, I think it's clear, it matters because now we know whether the family or friend is giving you a gift or giving you a loan. It needs to be clear between the two of you so there's no miscommunication.
Two, if you're going to court and you're saying, "Yeah, that was a gift." They're going to come in and testify, "I gave him a gift to help him get through the divorce. This is not a regular reoccurring gift." Therefore, it's not income. Therefore, it's not part of figuring out child support. These will have different implications down the road. Or if it's alone, now you have a debt to pay back. If you have a debt to pay back, maybe you can't afford alimony or maybe you need more alimony or how does that debt get divided up?
Pete Wright:
It changes the calculation.
Seth Nelson:
It can change all this stuff on dividing assets and alimony and potentially other items, and getting attorney's fees and costs paid. Most importantly, is making sure it's clear between you and the person that's giving you the support. The other thing that people will try to do is they will certainly try to be there and say, "Well, oh, how can I help? You know, tell me everything. What can I do?" They will start talking about their lives, and, "Well, when I got a divorce or my friends..."
I love these calls. "Well, yeah. My friend got this an alimony." When I'm telling a potential client you're going to get four years of alimony, four to six years, somewhere in that range. They say, "Well, my friend, you know, she got 12 years of alimony." I'm like, "Well, have your friend try your case. They're going to do a better job than me." There's so many different parameters. Then I'll say, "Well, I don't know about your friend's case." "Well, it's in Kansas." "Well, I don't know Kansas law." There's so many parameters. My cousin is a doctor and he has a mug that says, "Don't replace my medical degree with your Google search." Right?
I feel the same way.
Pete Wright:
Yeah.
Seth Nelson:
I do not mind my clients or anyone asking me questions. "Well, Seth, I don't understand. I have a friend that I think is in the same situation I am and they got a lot more alimony for a lot longer." I'll be, "Well, do you know what their standard of living was? How long their marriage... Did they give up a career to do it? What were the factors that that court considered? Did they settle the case? Did they give up any money on equitable distribution, but they got more money on that?" There's so many moving parts there. Once you start asking that, then the party understands, the person talking to you understands, this might be different. It's very fact intensive.
Also, I think it's important to realize that when you're going through this and dealing with your lawyer and talking to your friends, this is all-consuming. That's why we're saying, try to live your life, not your divorce. You are going to be thinking about this all of the time. You would be surprised about how little amount of time your friends actually think about you and your problems.
Pete Wright:
Is it a fraction of the time that they're spending right in front of you?
Seth Nelson:
It might be, it might be even a little less unless they're gossiping with their friends, but they have their own stuff, their own problems. Maybe they'll come home and talk to their spouse or their girlfriend, and they'll talk about it for 10 minutes at whenever. It is really amazing about how little we all think about others that we truly care about, okay? Now your parents might be a little bit different, but if they're elderly and they've got a doctor's appointment and a surgery coming up, that's going to take up space in their brain, not necessarily what you're going through.
So don't necessarily think that everyone, when they see you is automatically thinking, "Oh my God, she's going through a divorce. I've been thinking about that for..." They haven't been thinking about it all week. They'll think about it now because you walked up and you said "hello," or you texted them something or you brought it to front of mind.
I think the other thing about working with your lawyer and how other people get involved is a lot to do with you taking control of your surroundings. What I mean by that is when people start saying, "Well, what is your lawyer say?" Just back off of it. Say, "You know, I'm working through it with them," or "I'm a little confused. I'm going to set an appointment with them." Or, "They say procedurally, the case might be over by when."
If they start asking, "Well, how much are you going to get? Or what about the kids? What's the typical thing?" The answers regarding the lawyer, if you're going to say anything, is, "I feel good I can get ahold of them. They know what they're talking about. They're giving me clear directions. When I have questions, I know who in the office to talk to." That type of stuff is a way to let people know you're doing okay.
If you aren't getting those things, then you need to set an appointment with your lawyer and say, "I don't feel like we're communicating. I don't feel like I'm getting what I need from you as my attorney." Have a frank conversation with your lawyer. That's the person to have the frank conversation with, not with your friends and saying, "Well, I think it could be this. I think it could be that."
Pete Wright:
It sounds like don't be surprised when you're working with your lawyer and your lawyer says exactly what you just said to me. You're going to need to back off some of your friend relationships. They're going to want to be supportive and you're going to need to back off.
Seth Nelson:
It's not that you're backing off. I'm not saying that you don't lean on your friends, but it's how you do it. I think your point is excellent. "I really need help with the kids." Or, "Can you come over and let's go shopping." We had Jamie on about getting new furniture. "Hey, I'm getting new furniture. You want to come help me?" I think that's a brilliant suggestion, and kind of go from there. "Hey, I'm working out at different carpool." Or, "I'm married. I don't own the house I have to move out. Let's go look at places with me." I think those types of useful, practical step-by-step to get you through the process is a great way to leave on your lean on your friends, not airing all your dirty laundry.
Pete Wright:
"Hey friend, buy me pizza."
Seth Nelson:
That's it, maybe a couple beers.
Pete Wright:
That's it, that's the only one. That's all you need. How about this, working with your family and working with your lawyer, what if you have a member of the family who is also a family lawyer? Would you consider bringing them on to represent you in this process?
Seth Nelson:
Or if they're like a good friend and they want to hire... If I have a good friend who wants to hire me or a family member that wants to hire me as a divorce lawyer.
Pete Wright:
Right. Would you take it?
Seth Nelson:
Oh, yeah, they get the friend and family rate.
Pete Wright:
I even know that's not a thing.
Seth Nelson:
It is a thing. Seriously, it's double my normal rates. It's terrible. They think that they can have access to you 24-7, that whatever you do is not going to be good enough. It never ends well-
Pete Wright:
Yeah.
Seth Nelson:
Because you're mixing, and what I've told you time and time again, "I'm not your friend, I'm your lawyer." So I've had really good friends... I'll be like, "I'll do it, but we might not be friends after this because I'm going to be your lawyer and I'm going to tell you what you need to know not what you want to hear."
Pete Wright:
Yeah.
Seth Nelson:
Also, it's very dangerous to have a friend who is a lawyer on a Monday morning quarterback.
Pete Wright:
Yeah.
Seth Nelson:
They do not have all the answers. When you're at a mediation, which we're going to talk about at another episode down the road and you walk out with a deal. They're going to be like, "What?" The mediation is such about how you get there and why it ended up being what it ended up being was a lot of the process at mediation. When you just see the end result, they're going to say, "Really, that's a terrible deal."
Pete Wright:
It's so easy to armchair that-
Seth Nelson:
Yeah, it's so easy. A good friend and a good lawyer will say, "Look, if you want me to be your friend and be a sounding board, fine. If something doesn't sound right, like on the process, fine." But you need to be clear on what hat you are wearing.
Pete Wright:
Ahem.
Seth Nelson:
That's very difficult with your friends and your family. I've represented friends, but during that process, I've made it very clear, "I'm your lawyer. I'm not going to be your friend, and let's just be very... We have to stay in that lane."
Pete Wright:
Yeah.
Seth Nelson:
If they say, "Well, hey, let's go out for a drink." I've said, "Okay, I'm happy to. We're not discussing your case, correct?" They'll be like, "No, we're not talking about it, we're just going to watch the game." [crosstalk 00:31:47] "Okay. I'll do that."
Pete Wright:
That's okay. Yeah.
Seth Nelson:
Right. Be careful with that, but I appreciate it. It's a good question. So Pete-
Pete Wright:
Yeah.
Seth Nelson:
I've gotten some very nice responses to "How to Split a Toaster."
Pete Wright:
So great.
Seth Nelson:
Yeah. It's been, "Hey, this is so helpful. I'm sorry I didn't leave a review. I don't want anyone to know I'm thinking about this or going through this." We get it, we appreciate it.
Pete Wright:
We'll say that was an unintended consequence of asking for reviews. It's just not a thing that occurred to us initially.
Seth Nelson:
Right. Oh, please put on a review. Right. If you are listening and this is being helpful and you are not comfortable leaving a five-star review because you don't want people to know that you're listening to the show, we understand. We appreciate that. Just please share the show with others once you get to the point where you're comfortable doing so.
Also, if you have any questions... Pete, I know we're setting up how they can ask questions because I'm getting a lot of texts and questions and people say, "Well, what about this idea for a show?"
It's been very helpful because we are here to serve you. We are here to try to make this process more understandable and work on saving your relationships while you're going through it. We want to hear from you. Pete, why don't you tell them the best way that they can get ahold of us.
Pete Wright:
Well, we are in the process of putting a handy button up on the website over at Nelsonkoster.com. You can head over there, look at the podcast page, and you'll see a button that says, "Ask a question to the toaster," and we will go ahead... It'll just pop up a little form.
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Seth Nelson is an attorney with Nelson Koster Family Law and Mediation with offices in Tampa, Florida. While we may be discussing family law topics, "How to Split a Toaster" is not intended to nor is it providing legal advice. Every situation is different. If you have specific questions regarding your situation, please seek your own legal counsel with an attorney licensed to practice law in your jurisdiction. Pete Wright is not an attorney or employee of Nelson Koster. Seth Nelson is licensed to practice law in Florida.
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