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The Insanely Great Podcast is your weekly mix of tech, AI, sports, politics, and whatever other shiny object grabs our attention. One minute we’re breaking down the future of artificial intelligence, the next we’re debating game-day drama, political chaos, or the kind of random topic that somehow becomes the best conversation of the episode. Smart, funny, and just unhinged enough to keep things interesting, it’s the podcast for curious people who like their insights sharp and their conversations a little unpredictable.
Christopher Weeks AI (00:00)
The Insanely Great Podcast, Episode eleven. Fable, where did you go?
Christopher Weeks (00:05)
Welcome to another episode of the Insanely Great Podcast for june sixteenth, twenty twenty six. I'm Chris and with me is my buddy DJ. Hello, DJ.
Darrell (00:16)
Hey Chris, how you doing this week?
Christopher Weeks (00:18)
I can't complain. I'm ready to dive head first into anything we feel like discussing. but, you know, I think as typical as our show has kind of become more of a focus on AI, I think we should talk about the fable issue that got happened with clawed AI.
Darrell (00:32)
Yeah.
Yes. So you wanna take kick that off?
Christopher Weeks (00:39)
Well, a little synopsis. it was available for all of about two days. I actually got to play with it, enjoy it. I put it through the paces, was really impressed with it. it had I think six trillion parameters. it was a hu huge leap forward. and after two days they took it
There was a national security a order from the United States government that they had to remove it within like thirty minutes or something, take it down. Because these the executive order said you can't have any foreign nationals working on the product here or overseas, anywhere. Well
Darrell (01:17)
Mm-hmm.
Christopher Weeks (01:19)
I would bill in to bet you anything that a significant portion of Claude's design team and tech team on this is heavily potentially Indian, Chinese, Japanese, whatever they might be. And I'd be in to bet you anything that a large majority of them are stateside here. So th they had no choice but to comply with it and take it down.
Darrell (01:31)
Absolutely. Yep.
So it's actually like majority Chinese. If you've ever looked at any of the research papers out of any of the big labs, including Google, OpenAI, predominantly Chinese. Mm-hmm.
Christopher Weeks (01:55)
Really?
Wow. That doesn't surprise me. So this is maybe like the first time we've reached the era where we've seen that these AI models will literally now be controlled by a government entity. And you know the the the the ridiculous part of all this is, you know, we thought that Republicans were all deregulation, let the economy and
Darrell (02:09)
Mm-hmm. Vicariously.
Christopher Weeks (02:20)
Consumer sentiment determine what happens and where was that on this one?
Darrell (02:26)
I know the irony is thick on that on that part. I mean they initially Trump did essentially not really deregulate, but he fed into it, right? He had the I forget what the first initiative was called when he had all the AI leaders come in and they were gonna invest tons of money into it and now suddenly because you had anthropic go against what the government
was saying just a few months ago, like you can't use us. It feels like this is a little bit of retaliation.
Christopher Weeks (02:58)
Well, they they they sp they specifically
said you can't use us for defense military contracts or s weapon systems. th they were all right and they already had been been used in Pentagon systems and for research, but I think they wanted a a
Darrell (03:13)
Mm-hmm.
Christopher Weeks (03:18)
less limited, uncensored, unrestricted access to the model that they were given and I forget what's the CEO's name, Dario, whatever his face, ⁓ said, yeah, that's not happening. We're not comfortable with that.
Darrell (03:28)
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean I see two things coming out of this. OpenAI has already been set up to swoop in and take that over from the last time. And this is only going to in my opinion, make that a little bit easier for them to work with the government moving forward because it two strikes already essentially against it. And they said that it came from a red team attack.
on the model that was able to get it to go against its guardrails.
Christopher Weeks (04:03)
Well they c they claim that they were able
to jailbreak it and get it around the guardrails. and the CEO already answered, responded to that, saying like, we haven't seen any evidence that you can get around the prompts, you that you can get it to shut down. now there is a little bit of a pushback. I will say when my time using it
Darrell (04:08)
Right.
Christopher Weeks (04:26)
It's very difficult to get it to stay on the model. Fable five. It was it would constantly be like, this is a query that I think my four point eight can handle and it wouldn't tell you that you were getting downgraded and and for a little while they altered that. You could actually ask it what model is answering this question and it would
Darrell (04:30)
I heard about this. Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Christopher Weeks (04:50)
You would start out with Fable five, ask a question, it would take a couple of seconds, and you could ask it later what model is answering this, and it would say Opus four four point eight. ⁓ so
Darrell (05:01)
Yeah. Which
that that's shifty because it could be in the training data, right? Like it's going to have a lot of training data from four point eight. So it could be hallucinating that other models do it. All models do it. But then there was convincing evidence because there are depending on the routing, you can there are some companies that can tell what model you're actually getting inference from.
Christopher Weeks (05:13)
Right.
Darrell (05:27)
And there were some proving cases that you would start with able and you would end with opus in almost all conversations.
Christopher Weeks (05:34)
Mhm. Yeah. That being said, you know, the Chinese and foreign governments had three days of really throwing darts at this thing, training gathering as much data as they can from it. So
Darrell (05:46)
Mm.
Christopher Weeks (05:47)
The s the sheer stupidity of the United States of America and how we just want to put up all these roadblocks for AI companies competing with China and ev ev all everywhere in the world. ⁓
Darrell (06:01)
Yeah,
where there's essentially no no roadblocks in China.
Christopher Weeks (06:05)
Yeah. There's nothing. in fact they're literally looking at our models, piggybacking them, using them for training their own models to get faster, faster, faster, move along faster. And our system we have the President of the United States shutting down our advancement.
Darrell (06:07)
Mm-hmm.
This is
Christopher Weeks (06:23)
And the thing that pisses me off to no end our conservative leadership is just silent, they don't say anything when this is being he heavily regulated and it's just it's it's just k so cowardly. I I just it's just disgusting. I don't I don't know why it's happening.
Darrell (06:42)
They like to pick and choose what they do and don't regulate. And ⁓ like like abortion, right? They wanna regulate the crap out of abortion, out of any I forget what they're called, not earned benefits, but like unemployment, Medicaid. They they wanna regulate the crap out of that. But they don't wanna regulate big business. Like that's the dividing line is the haves and have nots with them.
Christopher Weeks (06:45)
Yeah.
Right. Right. Yeah.
⁓
In interesting get slight not to get away from abortion. getting back slightly to Fable and Claude. I th I did find it interesting that before the release of Fable what the AI system that this is actually based on, which is Mythos, ⁓ was heavily used for finding security flaws. And
Darrell (07:21)
Mm-hmm.
Christopher Weeks (07:26)
h also helping companies not just find them but also fix them or telling them ways that they could be solved. So before Fable was released, because people were also going to use this largely for security, there were some of the big tech companies were given access to the Fable model and like Microsoft said they were able to fix a bunch of security vulnerabilities in Windows and Xbox and
Apple was given access to it and they did the same thing as well as Google and the Department of Defense and the Pentagon was actually given early access to it to test their systems to make sure to look for a vote. So this whole thing had been advertised long that it was coming. and then to say later that you know
It it's just a matter of time before the the Chinese have got a system that could also figure out vulnerabilities and the first thing they're gonna look for is ways to exploit that in American hardware.
Darrell (08:24)
Well that's part of the thing too. The Chinese labs essentially are post-training on the output of these models. So that's kind of why they hallucinate a lot of like yeah, I'm Chat GPT or yeah, I'm Opus. I have a couple friends in the industry though, and their take on mythos was like all models are good at finding vulnerabilities in code, but not all models are good at
Building the code to actually exploit it and make a proof of concept or chain attacks together. Like you may have one or two vulnerabilities here that need a kill chain, but the models weren't smart enough to link them together. They could find them individually where Mythos could actually put them together and say, This, these two things are vulnerable separately, but when you put them together, now it's vulnerable in a whole new way.
Christopher Weeks (09:17)
Right.
Darrell (09:17)
And
a lot of my my friends in the security industry have agreed that yeah, every model's really good at finding vulnerabilities. Five point five from open AI is really good. But Mythos went the step further in truly understanding how can I validate this and show that it's a a zero day? Because that's the other thing too. These are zero days that it's finding. That's why everyone's up in arms about it.
Christopher Weeks (09:28)
Excuse
Darrell (09:45)
Because if it can find it for these companies, if their code base is stolen, it could essentially find it for anyone. Or even if it's reverse engineered. They reverse engineer Chrome all the time. And I think it's open source. Chromium is, so you got most of it.
Christopher Weeks (09:59)
Yeah, yeah.
Yes.
Yeah. But I had read one of the chief complainers to the United States government was actually Amazon. ironic ironically, the interesting part of that is they have a multi million dollar partnership with Claude to provide their AI systems in the Amazon shopping portal as well as on the Amazon speakers.
Darrell (10:23)
And bedrock, they serve their models.
Christopher Weeks (10:26)
I didn't know that, yeah. Hm. Well I'm not I'm not familiar. What is what is bedrock?
Darrell (10:28)
Mm. You can get GPT through there as well, so
It's basically inference that is proxied by Amazon or the companies have allowed these big hyperscalers like GCP and Amazon or AWS, I mean, to actually run the models locally themselves because they have giant data centers. So there's different arrangements. I know GCP runs a lot of the Google models, separate from what you're actually getting inference from.
Christopher Weeks (10:47)
Right.
Darrell (11:03)
But due to privacy. A lot of this is due to privacy because companies don't just want to give their crown jewels to to open AI or anthropic. So they run theirs separately. There's attestation behind it for compliance. And they're able to
Christopher Weeks (11:17)
Right.
Darrell (11:20)
They're able to take these models, but they're making their own models. They have a horse in this race, which is also interesting. They have a horse in this race. They let you fine tune their own models, but they also are investing in anthropic. It's like they have tendrils everywhere in this AI industry.
Christopher Weeks (11:37)
Mm. Wow. Yeah. yeah. is there anything else you want to say on that? I mean you know, I there there's so many ways to look at this, but I think the real most realistic way to look at it is this is like virtually absolutely just going to be like a net positive for Anthropic because they're about to have an IPO.
And to have the US government say that their AI models are too dangerous to be released in the wild? That it's not just the CEO saying how good their stuff is. ⁓ now you've now you've you know, I y used to s think suspect that when they s when Mythos was about to be released and there was all this talk about that it's too dangerous and all this stuff, I th just thought that it was marketing that that
Darrell (11:58)
Mm-hmm.
Yeah. There's
Yeah.
Christopher Weeks (12:24)
tha that they were just trying to drum up support. But, you know, if you got the US government giving you a executive order to take it down, now you look even better. You know, it's not just you hyping things up. Now you've got the US government stepping in and saying that th this thing is too dangerous to be out there in the wild. a and, you know, it's been rumored that they're gonna get a
two trillion, three trillion, four trillion dollar evaluation that they might be the largest company that the world's ever seen due to their AI breakthroughs.
Darrell (12:57)
They skyrocketed past OpenAI after the whole first debacle with the government. They got so many users to jump ship, and it wasn't based on the model's capability. It was based on their policy decision, which also goes to show you that a lot of users aren't necessarily interested in like benchmarks of the models. They're just interested, does this company view the world the way I view the world?
Christopher Weeks (13:11)
Right.
Darrell (13:24)
Or agree, do I agree with this company? Like that's one of the strongest indicators I've ever seen of moral alignment with companies.
Christopher Weeks (13:34)
Mm. Yeah. On the flip side, still staying in the AI arena, I went ahead and installed the beta of iOS twenty seven.
Darrell (13:44)
Yeah.
Christopher Weeks (13:45)
And I put myself in the queue for the new AI Siri and it took three days before I was granted access to it.
Darrell (13:54)
It's not bad.
Christopher Weeks (13:56)
I did make sure to make like five different backups beforehand. and I have no doubt that within about a week I'll be going back to the other one. I mean I was I was thinking about this, I should at least wait for the public preview. But then I thought yeah, but then I thought,
Darrell (14:01)
Yeah.
Really.
It's only a month away.
Christopher Weeks (14:15)
I had read a Reddit that suggested that the sooner you get approved on the Siri AI wait list, for future versions of it you don't have to wait in that queue again. So when when the
Darrell (14:27)
You mean you have to
apply every update?
Christopher Weeks (14:31)
No, you don't have to apply every update, but it it they're they're gonna limit the number of people that have access to it as they see how well the servers handle the existing load of users. And what I really don't I mean, this is kind of like f kind of future thinking. I think they're gonna do the same thing with iOS twenty seven when it rolls out to the world, public for everybody, that they're gonna severely limit
the access to Siri AI and you're gonna have to apply to that. If you already applied, when you get to the public release, you're already in. You don't need to go through the hoops of waiting for it all again. So I just thought I'm just gonna take the leap, get get into the Siri beta, and then Wallah I'll be good to go.
Darrell (15:16)
So well tell us how your experience has been. Is it revolutionary?
Christopher Weeks (15:19)
⁓
it is not revolutionary, it is very slow.
It is very slow. it I honestly thought that the the demos that they showed at WWDC I was wondering whether they had on purpose put those in a slow timetable showing that it was taking a long time for it to kinda think and put everything together. Maybe because they didn't want to get sued for expectations or false marketing or whatever.
Darrell (15:25)
in what way?
Christopher Weeks (15:48)
The weird part is I have a phone that isn't able to download the model on it has enough horsepower where it'll put the model on it. But for some reason almost every query it phones out for.
That mean I think that's part of the betas. you know, like I was reading in in reading in a Reddit that the final version of this is it's gonna be able to choose whether the on device LLM can handle with the query or whether it needs to phone out, with the majority of the decisions being wanting to stay on the device because there's a higher level of privacy.
Darrell (16:06)
Mm the model's not ready.
Christopher Weeks (16:26)
Not like there isn't already a higher level of privacy that they claim is going to these iCloud relay servers, ⁓ but they can guarantee higher privacy with it just staying on the phone.
Darrell (16:27)
No.
Exactly.
So I I got two sticking points with all this. So we know that the next model is a 20 B model, probably quanted down, like way down to two or four bits. That would put it in the eight to ten gig size. And if they train it in quant, that could lower it to maybe six. So that could be why we're seeing the memory.
requirements. Like you're not even getting it on the eight gig M1. I did look that up. So those laptops that only have eight gigs of memory, you're you're shut out. I will get it, thankfully, on my 16 gig M3, but I do have an one that's only eight gigs. Won't see it. My phone
Christopher Weeks (17:23)
Well you won't you won't
you won't see the on device model. You'll still be able to phone out, and get AI that way.
Darrell (17:26)
Right.
But w what really burned me up was they are this is apparently is going to be very multimodal because they showed it with image understanding and dictation. I got to thinking about that and I was like, hold on, I can run very small dictation models. Like audio and video, when you talk about model size, they're actually not that large. It's it's a little ironic. You would think they would be massive, but they're not. The
thing that bothered me was they're relying on that twenty G model for the advanced dictation.
They when on any device you use, you can get dictation in the browser on with only a two or three hundred megabyte model. And it's perfectly it's way more accurate than what they have now on the phone. And the biggest models cap out at about one point six six gigabytes. So why that's what's bothering me. Why are you limiting this new dictation which could be done with a fraction of the size model?
Christopher Weeks (18:22)
Mm.
Darrell (18:29)
It it's purely marketing at that point. Purely purely getting you to buy a new phone or go to the next level.
Christopher Weeks (18:32)
Yeah, yeah. ⁓
I mean, the model that I downloaded was nine gigabytes.
Darrell (18:43)
Damn. And it's going to take more than that to run 'cause your context window. And they haven't talked about what your context window's going to be. It's probably going to stay around eight or sixteen K, very small.
Christopher Weeks (18:48)
Right.
Right. Well I was listening to Jaws, the marketing AI guy, and Craig Federigi give a presentation about the Siri app where you can discuss with it. And they were very blunt on us saying that like we're not trying to create a friend. this is not going to be a chat bot, you're not gonna be sh short
Darrell (19:05)
Mm-hmm.
Christopher Weeks (19:16)
short window into conversation, it'll eventually tell you to take a break, go do something else, yada yada yada. it's not gonna be able to create images. ⁓ Yeah, well the the bad app, the p image playground, that's fucking atrocious. I don't think I I think they're abandoning ship on the whole image creation thing. I think you
Darrell (19:27)
Heaven out for that.
Yeah, but it's supposed to be getting better, right?
Really? It was part
of the announcement.
Christopher Weeks (19:43)
Yeah, I just I I I tried in the beta with it trying to create images and it was just it was just atrocious. I I was just thinking like they're not even using Nano Banana Pro one or two out of this to solve this problem. Granted it's you know, the beta I like I called it beta zero. and I just think
Elon Musk's Grok X and open open AI's image creation tool and Nabana too are just so far ahead that even Adobe's that I think a Apple just said, why do we really want to be the company that's creating fake images of Donald Trump with a banana up his nose? so I mean, who knows? Yeah.
Darrell (20:26)
They guardrail that,
like let's be honest.
Christopher Weeks (20:29)
Yeah, yeah. But I could just see like the first day of, you know, the software coming out, people releasing on the web all these ways that they found to get around stuff with they worded something different and it changed. like there are entire websites that are built for Nano Banana that will tell you how to get around words, to enunciate something different, that the system will still understand what you're saying.
Darrell (20:54)
Mm-hmm. Yeah, if it if anyone's interested in that kind of stuff, OWASP did come out with a top 10 LLM attack. And a lot of the same techniques that Chris you're describing are those exact techniques and they work for image, video, any model, because at the end of the day, when it's doing its embeddings,
Christopher Weeks (20:55)
You know, it's just
Darrell (21:16)
you're not talking to the video or image model that's going to create it. You're talking to something that's going to take your speech and turn it into embeddings and that the model can understand. So they all just have their tiny little embedding engine.
Christopher Weeks (21:23)
Mm-hmm.
Mm.
Right. Right. Crazy.
Darrell (21:32)
But
but yeah, to that point, I mean I've been able to do it with
What was the one in the past that everyone loved? Mid Journey. Just by having an AI describe I was like, describe Donald Trump. And then I took that, pasted it in, and it created an image almost s you know, almost exactly of him. This was back in the day before it was that accurate, but it's just get around it.
Christopher Weeks (21:40)
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Also you c you could ⁓
you can create reference images as long as the image isn't named Donald Trump won. ⁓ it Mid Journey was pretty good at getting fooled at not recognizing what what the image was of the person, etcetera.
Darrell (22:01)
Mm-hmm.
I will say this, I ran into one yesterday. I took a meme someone had shared and it was it was Terminators, it's like Arnold Schwarzenegger and they were in the phone booth that scene where they call the mom. I tried to get it to replace some of the text. I just said like rewrite this about AI and it refused every time. I tried a couple tactics to get it to I was like, No, these are these are not those actual actors, they're just look alikes and it's like, no, I detect
Christopher Weeks (22:20)
Mm-hmm.
Darrell (22:36)
celebrities in this. I can't I can't reproduce it. And it refused like four times in a row. So I just gave up.
Christopher Weeks (22:39)
Huh.
That was what
what were you what tool were you using?
Darrell (22:45)
Jim and I, Nano Banana Pro or Two Pro, whatever it is.
Christopher Weeks (22:47)
Yeah, yeah. Wow. Mm
hmm wow. Yeah. yeah. Which which Google package do you pay for?
Darrell (22:55)
The twenty dollar a month one.
Christopher Weeks (22:57)
Yeah, yeah. I'm that's that's the same one I have. And I've been debating with the hundred dollar one hundred dollars a month seems like a lot of money. ⁓ with the hundred dollar one month it includes your YouTube Pro pro sorry, premium as well as I use net the Nest cameras, and it r it it includes my thirty days of advanced storage for that.
Darrell (23:06)
Yeah.
Christopher Weeks (23:23)
and I can share the AI quotes with my wife or the quota with my wife and everything.
Darrell (23:27)
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, my son uses the same thing. Actually, they just added YouTube premium f individual to the twenty dollar a month plan. And since
Christopher Weeks (23:38)
I thought they wa I thought
it was I thought it was only a light version. Okay.
Darrell (23:41)
Yeah, it's a light version. But like
you don't get it cuts the ads.
Christopher Weeks (23:45)
What is the difference between
the premium and the light? Yeah.
Darrell (23:48)
I don't know. Not
not really, I don't know. It you it lets you do background watching. You just can't share it with family members, which that plan is twenty five dollars by itself.
Christopher Weeks (23:54)
Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Darrell (24:01)
Used to be seventeen.
Christopher Weeks (24:02)
Crazy. Well. Yeah, I'll have to do some more do some more research.
Darrell (24:04)
But
I was gonna say everyone uses my account anyway, so it just made sense. Twenty bucks a month, you get a ton of storage, AI usage, anti-gravity usage. I think the only thing you're not gonna get is Spark when it comes out, which is kind of their agentic work thing, but you get a ton of value with it. it's kind of two things it's an IBE and a fully agentic coding platform.
Christopher Weeks (24:12)
Yeah.
Right. Right. What is the anti gravity thing?
Darrell (24:31)
That's trying to compete with Codex and Claude.
Christopher Weeks (24:34)
Mm.
Right. Well. Yeah. Yeah. I l legitimately to put the I remember there was a notebook LM where you could insert what you wanted to have a conversation with two people about and it would create dialogues for different people and create a podcast out of it. So
Darrell (24:37)
It's not bad. It's actually a pretty good harness.
Mm-hmm.
Still there.
Christopher Weeks (24:56)
Yeah, I to put it through the paces when it first came out, I had two people arguing about the validity or non validity of the Holocaust.
Darrell (25:06)
You just went straight for the jugular. We gotta hear the results.
Christopher Weeks (25:09)
I did. Yeah. It was
it was so weird hearing this hearing the AI that Google had created for this woman trying to argue the validity of the Holocaust.
yeah. It was it you know, they focused on life lessons. This isn't w we've we've made amends for this, blah blah blah. Just kept going on and on and on.
Darrell (25:25)
Mm.
Hm. To be
fair, they're only as strong as the source material.
Christopher Weeks (25:43)
Yes, but you know, you think somewhere along the line there would have been a strong enough source material where th somebody would have said The argument that you're gonna use is the biggest colossal blunder of any culture at any time in the history of the world, mankind going back to Adam and Eve is probably this. Biggest colossal blunder ever. anyway.
Darrell (26:06)
But that
was the earlier Gemini models. Have you tried it recently? They actually baked it into Gemini.
Christopher Weeks (26:09)
I have not, no. I mean I
Yeah. I I would hope maybe that they would kick me out and not fulfill that request now. I don't know. Who knows?
Darrell (26:20)
Ha ha.
Hope so. Cause there's there's a ton of other things that like all the Chinese models when they first started dropping would not talk anything bad about China. They wouldn't say anything bad.
Christopher Weeks (26:22)
Yeah.
of course,
yeah. I mean why is anybody shocked at that?
Darrell (26:36)
Mm. And they they still test for guardrails 'cause five point two came out not too long ago with a cost reduction. no GLM five point two recently came out. ⁓ Kimi was it Kimmy two point seven, I think even came out. There like basically all the labs.
Christopher Weeks (26:38)
Wow.
You talking about deep seek or
Yeah, yeah. Right.
Dude, Kimmy's got a release K
Kimmy's gonna release like every week.
Darrell (26:59)
Yeah. Well that's
how fast the Chinese are iterating on this. Like it's monthly.
Christopher Weeks (27:02)
Yeah, well it's open
source, so they find something, fix it, and then like we have a new release for next week.
Darrell (27:09)
Yeah.
Christopher Weeks (27:11)
Yeah. Good golly. Speaking of that, did you hear about SpaceX's IPO and that Elon Musk is now the first trillionaire?
Darrell (27:19)
Yeah, Bernie Sanders is gonna have to update his slogan.
Christopher Weeks (27:22)
Yeah. Well, Elon has more money than I think it's like seven countries. Fuck fucking insanity. How did we reach this point?
Darrell (27:31)
Yeah. I mean I I remember hearing some stat like if you spent a million a day y it you can't spend it in your lifetime.
Christopher Weeks (27:36)
Yeah, he can't.
No. No. I mean the you know, I I I'm not naive. I just think this was bound to happen with capitalism, you know, and to make r rich people even richer, the first thing they do is get into the stock market and they get American citizens to buy into their idea. There's enough people that think Elon Musk is the savior of the world and will buy SpaceX stock, including
My wife, who gave authorization to her four one K to buy SpaceX stock and I am the proud owner of SpaceX stock right now. ⁓ No, I I literally the evening that she told me that we were now owners of this, I I told her th there's only one branch of SpaceX that is profitable. All the other ones are
Darrell (28:13)
Interesting.
Christopher Weeks (28:28)
have major holes and are not making a dime at all. X AI, not profitable. SpaceX itself, not profitable, not even close to being profitable. The only one that's marginally profitable is Starlink. ⁓ you know. It is. They're they're all subsidized by the government. I mean
Darrell (28:43)
Mm-hmm. And even that's heavily subsidized by the government.
Christopher Weeks (28:51)
You know, in the moment they're like, well, we need to spend a bunch of money to try to get this mission to Mars. The the people are the majority of people on the board and the investors are gonna be like, No, we we need to stick around here and
make money for 'cause people are all about return on investment on the dividends, that you know, the moment you go let's go to Mars, you're gonna bankrupt the entire company. There goes all of your money.
Darrell (29:20)
Mm-hmm. That's why the government has usually been the one to actually do these more progressive ideas because we all chip in and we say, yeah, you can use our tax money for this, right? And by the way, so it it the NASA portion of the budget was already small, but it shrinks every year, and it has shrunk even under Donald Trump, from what I understand this term.
Christopher Weeks (29:30)
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
Darrell (29:45)
Yet they were able to to do Artemis and now they're talking about putting people on the moon, like a moon base.
Christopher Weeks (29:51)
Do we need to go to the moon? I mean, I I don't know, it just feels like it's hey, we did it a while ago, let's see if we can do it again. ⁓
Darrell (29:58)
Well, they claim
that it's supposed to be a launch pad for Mars. I don't I'm not smart enough to understand it, but that's my understanding.
Christopher Weeks (30:03)
Yeah. Well Yeah.
If it's a launch pad for Mars, you're gonna need to find a way to mine it and get substances that get us from the moon to Mars. Who knows? You know, I I don't know. speaking of space though and aliens, my stepson and I went to go see the movie Disclosure Day. The new Stevens
Darrell (30:14)
Mm-hmm.
Hadn't heard of this
Christopher Weeks (30:27)
Steven Spielberg flick that just came out last Friday. It's kind of a fun ride. It's kind of like a more advanced version of Close Encounters of the Third Kind.
Darrell (30:28)
Hmm. Okay.
Christopher Weeks (30:37)
Yeah, it's it's fun. the whole idea really is that are we ready for aliens or not?
Darrell (30:44)
That's that's a trope that's been played out a little. did they have any interesting twist on it?
Christopher Weeks (30:49)
Yeah, there were there were some twists that you had to get these two humans kind of together. one spoken like an alien language and the other one could kind of decode it. and there's a guy that played by Colin Firth who is just hellbent on making sure these two don't ever get together because it could be the end of humanity and civilization can't handle that.
It kinda sounds a lot like I felt like I was watching the original r Lost Ark, where there's the one guy that's like, I want this for myself, but civilization can't handle this. ⁓ anyway, there's yeah, yeah. They call it disclosure day because at a certain point in the movie and this doesn't spoil anything, it happens in the trailer.
Darrell (31:24)
Hm. It's making me think Childhood's End by Arthur C. Clark.
Christopher Weeks (31:36)
At a certain point in the movie they do disclose that they r disclose all of these hidden alien interviews that they've had and where they've tortured some of these aliens and done all this stuff. It does not present like a great looking picture for us as a society and what we do to these aliens and all this so and then it ends on a real big cliffhanger.
So I mean, you know, like it it kind of followed a good story all the way up to a certain point and then ended kind of like where we thought it would kind of go. you know. But
Darrell (32:09)
So what are the odds
there will be a second one?
Christopher Weeks (32:12)
I don't know. I mean with the exception of the Indiana Jones trilogy, Steven Spielberg's not really big on sequels. Alright, and Jaws. But I think he only did the second one, maybe. yeah, he's not he's not hugely big on sequels and this one would just be like a bunch of I don't know, what do we do with the aliens now? I don't know, you know, it's just
Darrell (32:34)
That's interesting. So you think he might even hand it off to someone else? 'Cause I assume he allowed the cliffhanger.
Christopher Weeks (32:34)
⁓
Yeah, I I mean the movie's already been out for a week, so like it and you can find the information that it says about the cliffhanger, so it's really not that big of a deal. If you don't want to hear this shit fast forward like a minute. So they bring out this alien on live television, this one that they captured from like the nineteen sixties, who's much, much older and he's frail and, you know, kind of looks like a grandfather alien. and they open up this kind of like a
This enclosure that he's in and he walks out and this bro live broadcast TV and they show it being broadcast all over the world and every other news network and all their streaming stations are all picking them picking them up and they're all picking back off off of everybody to watch this thing. And ironically, I couldn't help but laughing. I don't think this is quite what they were going for.
They showed a bunch of people in Times Square and different major cities where all they're doing is stopping and just staring at their phones. Because I don't know. One of my one of my pet peeves is just watching people walk around and they're just like you know, except now they're not walking around, they're just staring at their phone and watching this whole alien reveal. And so the this chief alien or older one, whatever you want to call
Darrell (33:37)
Ha ha.
Mm-hmm.
Christopher Weeks (33:57)
Comes out and all he says is listen and then it then it ends, goes black.
I mean I I f I get what the the message they were trying to say is that we're just very s self centered and not really listening to what's going on around us and
Darrell (34:13)
Did he did he talk this over with some of the Python brothers? 'Cause that feels very anticlimatic.
Christopher Weeks (34:20)
you know, the you know the f the first hour and a half of the movie, you kinda get a bunch of this whole out of body experience where like that you can use this alien device and take over somebody else's body and figure out where they are and what they're doing and make them do things. I thought that was kind of a a little bit of an inter interesting take.
That we hadn't seen in kind of an alien film before. it was kind of like a astral projection thing of taking like your aura and putting it in somebody else's body. but it was fun. I don't know, you know. I'm kinda looking forward to Supergirl next week. I'm a big comic book nerd fan. I've been waiting for a supergirl movie for the longest time.
Darrell (35:01)
I was gonna say what's got your attention about it, but it's just the fact that you've been so into that into the culture there.
Christopher Weeks (35:07)
Well,
I really liked I really liked the first Wonder Woman film and I was like if we can just get a female superhero that's done right in the right light with not trying to make her just a damsel in distress waiting for the guy to come save her. We're we're gonna have like this thing's gonna be huge. And the first film did that and then the second film was just such a pile of shit. ⁓ GS
Darrell (35:30)
I never saw it. I saw the first twice.
Christopher Weeks (35:34)
First one was so good and then second one was such a disappointment. I almost walked out of the theater. I was just like this is so disappointing. I was like Yes. And pff p Patty Jenkins like she she held out going like, this this has to be released in the theaters. We can't do immediately on to on to HBO I because I think it came out during COVID.
Darrell (35:42)
It was the eighties one, right?
Christopher Weeks (35:57)
So I actually went to the theater to see it at her recommendation and I thought, you know what, if if a director spends this much time making a film, I want to see it in the in the format that they actually intended for it to be seen. So I'm sitting there in the theater and I'm just like, I want all of my money back. This is the biggest pile of shit that I have ever seen. It is atrocious. This is so bad. ⁓
Darrell (36:23)
Damn. Tell us how
you really feel.
Christopher Weeks (36:25)
Yeah, yeah. you know, th like these that movie is what makes people not want to go to the movies and won't will make people be like, you know what, I'll just wait for it to come to streaming. You know, it's it's those bad movies that are just gonna make people go it's just gonna kill the movie theater industry and people are just gonna be like, I can watch it at home, I'll just wait for it.
Darrell (36:37)
Mm-hmm.
It kinda reminds me of what you were saying with the the Star Wars movie a couple of weeks back where the show right, the show was great, but then you're saying the movie had these it squandered all these opportunities.
Christopher Weeks (36:56)
Mandalorian and Grogu?
Yeah.
Yep, I mean, don't even get me started on that one. you know, I kind of said it before. You know, and here's a notice to anybody in Hollywood that pr by chance maybe listens to this podcast and is like this dude in the red hair seems to go to the movies a lot. I do. And if you're going to send somebody to the movies where they're going to be paying money for a ticket as well as popcorn drink, and it's about fifty bucks for just that these days,
Forget it if you're on a date and it's gonna be a hundred dollars, ⁓ forget all that. But if you're just you gotta give the fans what they don't get home on streaming. You can't give the same sauce and expect to be like, fans are still gonna be happy. no, you gotta you gotta up the ante if people are going to the theater.
Darrell (37:34)
Right.
Mm-hmm.
Christopher Weeks (37:52)
you know, you gotta be like sorry, go ahead.
Darrell (37:53)
It used
to say it used to be about the screen and the sound, but it's a lot of people can can kind of replicate that at home now. Like TVs are large enough, you get surround sound, that's good enough.
Christopher Weeks (38:04)
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah. Though I I will say the majority of I've kind of spoiled with the AMC pass. I go and see every movie I can in Dolby Cinema where it's just insanity with bass and color projection and everything. but still, you know, like if you've got great sound and great visual, you can't cover the fact that a story is really shitty.
Darrell (38:29)
Yeah.
Yeah. And it's gonna be even worse once it does get to streaming because I mean streaming is all about revenue share where it's the number of times it's streamed and if it's a everyone knows it's it's a dud, it's not gonna capture anything.
Christopher Weeks (38:31)
So
Yes.
Yeah. Though I will say, I am waiting to rewatch the film Obsession. I don't know if you've heard about this film. ⁓ it was actually done by a YouTuber who got a bare bones budget of like a hundred and fifty thousand dollars, two hundred thousand dollars to make this film about this guy that finds a like a wishing stick and cracks it.
Darrell (38:51)
Yeah. Mm mm.
Christopher Weeks (39:10)
and makes a wish that this girl that he's been friends with kind of becomes in love with him, kind of like hopelessly completely in love with him. And the whole premise is that kind of be careful what you wish for because if it's granted
The girl that you knew that you're friends with, it changes her entire personality, changes who she is, changes everything. and it goes from like you know, the f the the film now has made millions of dollars and it had a two hundred and fifty thousand dollar budget. I think it's made like a hundred and fifteen million dollars.
Darrell (39:34)
Hmm. Interesting.
Wow. My son was telling me about some movie Markiplier, he's a another YouTuber, was making and he really wants to see it. So internet culture for the win there.
Christopher Weeks (39:50)
Yeah, so
Mm.
now is your son talking about this film
that I'm talking about was released at the theaters and Yeah, he had this guy had released like a little concept of the movie that he was talking about on YouTube and it was kind of hugely popular and a studio was like How cheap do you think you can make this? ⁓ you know, and yeah, like
Darrell (40:06)
No, I don't think it's out yet.
Mm.
Christopher Weeks (40:25)
Yeah, it's it's kind of it's a good really cheap horror film about kind of what it does to this girl when she's kind of so obsessed with this guy. Like, ⁓ not like s well, borderline, yeah. I mean sh it this isn't like Fatal Attraction where like she's stabbing him and stuff. The the issue is like
Darrell (40:37)
She goes psycho.
Ha ha.
Mm-hmm.
Christopher Weeks (40:48)
He leaves to go to like a job. He's like a college kid and works at like a I forget where he works, but it's like a pizza s pizza restaurant thing and he goes to like an eight hour shift and all she's doing is just sitting there waiting by the door for him to return. She doesn't do anything else with her life. Doesn't shower, bathe, nothing, just sits there waiting for him to return. And then you know
You know, he walks in the door and she's like, I've been counting down the minutes till you've returned and like, you know
Darrell (41:19)
Hm. Okay, that is a horror film. In infatuated and chased by a woman that doesn't bathe or yeah or anything.
Christopher Weeks (41:21)
yeah. Yeah.
Well it
the the premise is that it really kind of destroys her inner value of like what makes her who she is and now she all that exists is this obsession to focus on you.
Darrell (41:42)
Almost like addiction.
Christopher Weeks (41:43)
Yes. Yeah, yeah. I was trying to think. It's got one of the girls from the Superman TV show that was only on it for like the first three or four seasons. And they're talking about the that this girl's not gonna be a star because of this low budget film that is exploding. ⁓ Yeah.
Darrell (42:01)
Well, do you
think we're going to see a trend due to this?
Christopher Weeks (42:05)
I think yes. I think there's gonna be a lot more studios that are gonna take chances on hundred and fifty thousand, two hundred thousand dollar movies 'cause they they just have nothing to lose. There's a just a huge upside. Getting back that that revenue is just gonna be so easy. you know, and it just goes to sh show you that like if you have a good idea that
It doesn't need to be hugely CGI or you know like literally the amount of CGI that is in this obsession movie is zero. There's zero. Not not not a bit. Like all you do is you see him like cracking this wishing stone peg twig and like you see her in the window like knocking on his car door and all of a sudden she's changed personalities.
Darrell (42:38)
Nice. Nice.
Wow. Instantaneous. But it it's interesting you bring up there's no CG because I I feel like that's refreshing, right? 'Cause all of our movies are filled with it and I've always thought even as a kid the best CG is the CG you don't realize is CG, but when it's obvious it just rips you out of it. And to have a movie that doesn't need to use it or even
Christopher Weeks (42:56)
Yeah. It's just
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Darrell (43:17)
say a director or someone who refuses to use it, it's kind of refreshing. And I think we're unfortunately going to be driven that way with AI. Like AI has become ubiquitous everywhere. And I think that things that are going to really take off are going to not use it, to be fair. Or use it very sparingly.
Christopher Weeks (43:21)
Right. Yeah.
Right, right. what have you been w what have you what, go ahead, sorry.
Darrell (43:39)
By the way, the the
the movie from Markiplier was Iron Lung.
Christopher Weeks (43:46)
Okay. Yeah, yeah. Huh. Nice. You know, I it maybe they just can't wait for it to get released, but why do they release horror films in the middle of summer? I don't know, it just seems like maybe they're like, you know, waiting till October is gonna be a log jam, they're gonna be releasing too many movies. We're gonna release ours in the middle of summer.
Darrell (43:47)
It's also hard.
Sure.
Ha ha ha.
Christopher Weeks (44:10)
I mean, you know, at
least at least they're not doing it like the week before Christmas. Being like, Yeah, we're releasing Freddy meets Jason, you know, right before Christmas.
Darrell (44:19)
Not quite a Christmas movie though, but it would kind of make sense maybe in October.
Christopher Weeks (44:21)
No.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. right. Yeah. whatever. Mm kinda kinda fun. I've been watching the Apple T V Cape Fear.
Darrell (44:26)
Even August?
Seen
Christopher Weeks (44:36)
are you are you you have got Apple T V plus, yes?
Darrell (44:40)
I did. I I don't at the moment. I we honestly didn't watch it much. We we watched more HBO.
Christopher Weeks (44:42)
You don't Yeah. Watch it. Yeah, there usually wasn't
Yeah, there really wasn't a whole lot of good that was coming to Apple T V, but Cape Fear is really good. yeah.
Darrell (44:54)
But Apple's doing a lot of that independent type stuff.
Christopher Weeks (44:59)
They're doing stuff that I would have thought their brand would have never let them do. Like do a psychotic thriller about a guy, you know, who's a psycho. how's that in Apple's wheelhouse? But, you know. ⁓ I y I did. I mean, they are like partnered with Disney on so many things. I don't know. You know, the
Darrell (45:09)
Mm-hmm.
You thought they were gonna be more Disney?
Yeah.
interesting
you what's interesting you bring that up.
Christopher Weeks (45:27)
Don't don't you get a vibe of
of like Apple kind of trying to be like a we're a wholesome company or not?
Darrell (45:33)
yeah. They're they're nanny to the to the nth degree. I mean look at all the safety features they put in to the next version of iOS. Or try to try to have Siri
Christopher Weeks (45:39)
Right.
Yeah, yeah. I mean you y
you can't have Siri say you're a fucking dickhead but ⁓ you can tell it I wanna watch Cape Fear about a psycho that's cutting out feet and fingers and voila, they're like here you go
Darrell (45:49)
Right.
Yeah, or or try to have it proofread something with a vulgar word in it. It will just refuse.
Christopher Weeks (46:01)
Yeah, yeah. Though grammarly the AI assistant will keep your F words all there. And I think it uses perhaps Whisper or whatever if you're doing speech to text, 'cause it records your audio, sends it out to a server, and it's really, really good. so I think it's I think it's Whisper.
Darrell (46:08)
Nice. Nice.
Christopher Weeks (46:24)
They they must be paying for that API call or something.
Darrell (46:28)
Mm. There's a lot of companies that do it now. I mean, they're so small you could really just run your own and it's open source.
Christopher Weeks (46:29)
Uh-huh.
Yeah, yeah. I mean, maybe they have that small model within i within the app. I don't know.
Darrell (46:41)
Yeah.
Christopher Weeks (46:42)
Yeah. I mean all it's doing is recording your audio and then playing it back through creating a transcript of it and then putting it in the message.
Darrell (46:51)
By the way, I do have a gripe against Apple with this. So I've been making a bunch of calls to different agencies recently, and when I get on the phone tree, I'll hit record. Well, sometimes those recordings are like an hour or more. And the transcription from that recording, as you can imagine, it's not necessarily the best, but it's also super
finicky about when it's going to transcribe it or not. If it's small, it'll almost always transcribe it. If it's beyond like fifteen, twenty minutes, it's hit or miss if it'll automatically do it. Sometimes you just gotta go in and just sit there and wait. Like it's doing it in the background. And there's no way to force it to retranscribe, to force it to transcribe in the first place. It is it's supposed to be automagical, except when magic fails. It it's disappointing.
Christopher Weeks (47:31)
Mm-hmm.
Auto magical
what a word. Wow. Steve Jobs. Steve Jobs would be so disappointed that it's not auto magical.
Darrell (47:47)
Yes. Very disappointing.
Well, they talk about all the well they led with this, all of the improvements they're doing to iOS. Like not only the UI, but all the under the hood stuff. I hope that this is something that also improves. It just needs more reliability.
Christopher Weeks (48:08)
Yeah, I mean
the fact that I kept this is one of the things that made me push for that it maybe it's okay to install this beta was that they kept saying over and over and over that this is like a snow leopard fi mostly fixes, mostly speed, that it's going to break some apps and th that stuff will be fixed fast. And
Darrell (48:29)
Well, how is your experience with that bin? Has it been smoother, faster?
Christopher Weeks (48:35)
it's it is smoother, it is faster. you can tell that it's not fully polished and done, but they do have I mean, I I think this thing's just gonna get even faster as they fine tune it and work out all the extra bugs that don't need to be there. 'cause usually between beta one and beta nine there's huge amounts of optimization that occurs.
Darrell (48:51)
Mm-hmm.
Christopher Weeks (49:01)
So when this thing gets optimized, it's just g gonna be even faster.
Darrell (49:05)
Yeah. I have you messed with the shortcuts app? Do they have the AI in that yet?
Christopher Weeks (49:11)
Yeah, y y I haven't done anything with it, but it'll ask you do you want me to create a shortcut for that? And it'll it'll do it. the one thing I did have it do was there was an address to a comic book store that I was going to that I had looked up like th three or four weeks ago, in I was sending the message to a friend of mine to meet me there.
And I had literally copied and pasted the address from Google Maps into a text message. And I had asked Siri AI and I said, I sent a message regarding this comic book store and the address three or four weeks ago. Can you locate the address for me? And it took about eight seconds and then it found it and gave gave me the address that I had and it even brought up the same message that I had I had messaged.
Darrell (50:01)
Nice. That I will say searches a pain. Mm-hmm.
Christopher Weeks (50:02)
three weeks ago. So that's something that y it wasn't able to do before. ⁓
you know. When I asked it for recommendations for food for what I should go eat, it asked me it asked me budget and how close to home do I want it to be. you know, and it's it's got an API that's gonna use Yelp and other things for. I don't know.
Darrell (50:29)
How is it conversationally? Like in terms of you replying back?
Christopher Weeks (50:32)
⁓ it under it understood
everything I was saying. I think it's use using the Google back end for transcribing voice, which I think Google has always had a really good one. ⁓ I know. But but like I said, everything is phoning out right now. And I think for the ultimate experience, you're gonna have to have those
Darrell (50:43)
Yeah. It's gotten better.
Christopher Weeks (50:56)
on those on device models working there.
Who knows? I mean, getting back to where we were, I think they're gonna have to limit the use of this thing. They can't have think about the number of iPhone users that are gonna be able to get access to this thing if they have limitless access to an AI where you've got twelve and thirteen, fourteen year olds just making constant AI calls while they're on the toilet.
Darrell (51:14)
Yeah.
Christopher Weeks (51:20)
You know, like, How are you doing, Siri AI? You know, it should be like, Leave me alone, I'm busy with important shit. Go away, kid You know.
Darrell (51:28)
Well, that is one thing I will say that it's gonna be hard for a local model to do, which is the world knowledge part they talked about. I'm my guess is that will always have to go out. And you stop and think about a lot of the queries made on iPhone of Siri. That's probably gonna be a lot of s queries still going out by default. Like what's the twenty B model going to do?
Christopher Weeks (51:50)
Mm-hmm.
Darrell (51:54)
I and I've sat here and thought about this. What's it going to do on a normal day to day basis that it could do self contained other than like formatting text, dictation, a little bit of that stuff, which the smaller model could can do.
Christopher Weeks (52:03)
Right.
Darrell (52:09)
Here's the thing, like they're not they already got in trouble for hallucinations when they were doing the AI summaries. They're going to try to stay far away from that. But if you you know how bad small models hallucinate. And if this is a 20 B model MOE, so only one or two billion parameters are lighting up for your answer, it's not going to be that intelligent. And it
Christopher Weeks (52:16)
Mm.
Yeah.
Darrell (52:33)
It's not gonna be able to answer things from like its own knowledge base, not reliably.
Christopher Weeks (52:37)
Right.
Yeah. I mean my question is going to be is how fast are and I don't think we'll ever we'll ever be privy to this knowledge, how fast are the Google Gemini updates going to be given to Apple? 'cause if if you're a Gemini subscriber, that's one thing you can count on is getting the latest models and access to them almost, you know, ASAP or you can play with them and
Darrell (52:55)
Mm-hmm.
Christopher Weeks (53:06)
the Google Studio or whatever it is, take for a test drive. I don't th Apple's never gonna be I don't think they're gonna be transparent about when models get updated and what we see on the back end. I did hear though that I did hear though that iCloud plus subscribers that have that are going to get a larger amount of AP API calls. for
Darrell (53:22)
My honest take there.
Christopher Weeks (53:32)
So obviously they're going to rein in the number of times you're allowed to
Call for anything. It's not just going to be limitless.
Darrell (53:42)
Hm. I wonder how that's gonna go down with Siri. Like that is the killer feature.
Christopher Weeks (53:47)
No, th that that's what I'm talking about.
That's what I'm talking about. There's gonna be a limit to that. I mean th think about the number of iPhone users that ha are gonna have this series available. If they're f making API calls, you know, I don't think there's a
I don't think there's probably servers on this planet that can probably keep up with that. The number of iPhone users far outweighs the number of Claude subscribers and open AI subscribers and Gawk sub subscribers combined. I mean the iPhone user base is huge.
Darrell (54:16)
Well they
They do ha like Google knows how to do this at scale though. 'Cause they they're including AI on ev almost every single search, even for non paying users.
Christopher Weeks (54:29)
Yeah. I mean you you and I come at this from a little bit of a I'm gonna use this word a little bit delicately. you and I come at this from a ultra nerd, we're already using AI point of view, but for a lot of people, including the majority of my friends, this is gonna be their first intro into A A AI using this in any capacity. I mean
Darrell (54:51)
Like they
haven't even messed with Chat GPT for free.
Christopher Weeks (54:54)
No. No. No. I mean my my wife plays around with the the free the free Gemini and she says, that's good enough. I like, wait till you get the better one that you get from Apple, in months that can actually do shit.
Darrell (55:08)
Mm-hmm.
Christopher Weeks (55:09)
Yeah. and then a couple of my friends are like, I really like image creation, but it it's really bad and screws up things and I get like seven fingers and three elbows and I was like, Wait till you try the paid version that fixes all that. Well I shouldn't have to pay for it. I'm like, No, you're still living in that world where everything is free. That's very you know two thousands.
Darrell (55:21)
Mm.
I will say this, I was listening to a guy talk about the profitability of all these AI companies, and he brought up a really interesting point that I had never looked up, so and I still haven't, we can validate this later. He claims that ninety percent of OpenAI's users are all free accounts.
Christopher Weeks (55:47)
Really? Ninety percent? Wow.
Darrell (55:49)
Yep. Ninety
percent. So basically the the things that are making up for all that are the investments, obviously. The subsid subsidation by these other companies. And then corporate, like literally corporate America is paying full freight for all the tokens. And then you've got a couple, you know, like if ten percent is paying, I would say what, maybe one or two percent have
Christopher Weeks (55:57)
Right.
Mm-hmm.
Darrell (56:17)
The two hundred or one hundred dollar plan. And it's even he said it's even smaller for Claude.
Christopher Weeks (56:21)
Right.
Wow. Hmm. Interesting.
Darrell (56:27)
Mm-hmm. And, you know, they're doing investments into power, investments into getting more infrastructure. But he was talking about he read an article in the Wall Street Journal stating that Chat GPT or OpenAI was about to drastically cut its inference prices because they're not gaining a bunch of new users anymore.
Christopher Weeks (56:48)
Well huh.
Darrell (56:49)
Yeah, that kind of shocked me too, because he's basically calling out like, Hey, we were told that this was really a a compute restrained issue, but now you're bringing the price down, which is going to result in more users, more compute. What's the real constraint or were we lied to?
Christopher Weeks (57:07)
Right, right. That makes sense. Well, we've hit the hit the hour mark. Is there anything else you kinda wanna talk about?
Darrell (57:09)
And Google can just
No, nothing on top of my mind.
Christopher Weeks (57:17)
Nothing. Nothing else. I was trying to think of anything else that was good. That's worth a worth a darn.
Darrell (57:23)
well,
there was the UFC fight on the White House lawn.
Christopher Weeks (57:28)
goodness. ⁓ You mean the people that were nothing says America like a exclusive Paramount Plus fight on the White House lawn. Founding fathers must just be looking down at us and going Really? everything we fought for to get away from the king you guys transferred into a celebration of a fight on the White House lawn.
Darrell (57:32)
Ha ha ha.
Christopher Weeks (57:51)
I I don't get it. but I I don't know.
Darrell (57:53)
It was the two two
fifty, right?
Christopher Weeks (57:56)
Two hundred fiftieth anniversary. You know, like couldn't we you know, couldn't we bring back like really good apple pie? I was happy to see that McDonald's is bringing back the baked, warm apple pie for the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary. you know if you remember the little my world remember the little cartons that they would come in? I don't know. Or am I speaking Chinese? Anyway.
Darrell (57:57)
Yeah.
No, I I well,
I remember them from Popeyes, similar to Popeyes.
Christopher Weeks (58:19)
Yeah, yeah. Well they're bringing back that. I was like, well maybe they could also like reduce their prices by twenty five percent for a month.
Darrell (58:28)
Do that with gas.
Christopher Weeks (58:30)
You know in the in the Iran
deal that we negotiated to get us back to the point that we were at. You know, and people are like my neighbor is like, but we took out like four generals or four presidents, so that's something different than Obama did. And I was like, weren't they instantly replaced? I mean, you know, if you cut off the head of a snake, does it not regrow and voila, you get a different snake, but
You know, there's the expression the devil you know is better than the one you don't.
Darrell (59:01)
That's why we kept Saddam there. And never went and got him until two thousand and three. Exactly.
Christopher Weeks (59:03)
Yeah.
Right.
So like I you know, I think it's the jury's still largely out on whether us killing four these
Darrell (59:14)
Atollers, Iatollas.
Christopher Weeks (59:16)
Ayatollahs, we can call them terrorists, whatever you want to call whether that was really beneficial and I still think this is something we never should have been involved in. you know, there's becoming less and less and less evidence to support that there was actually a nuclear weapon there. So this whole narrative of like, we can't let them have a nuclear weapon.
Darrell (59:33)
No.
He claims he obliterated it the first time, but then he goes back.
Christopher Weeks (59:36)
I don't know. Yes.
We drop an eighty billion dollar bomb or whatever it is million dollar bomb. It was eighty billion dollars with all the military hardware and assets we've dropped on the country. And then the ridiculous part is we're p potentially going to give them money to rebuild. And now the Wall Street Journal is reporting, let's see if I can find it, I can actually this will be a good test of whether this thing's actually working right or not.
Darrell (59:44)
MOBA.
Christopher Weeks (1:00:02)
Let's see if this shows up here. should be pretty fast. Here we go.
Yeah. You able to see that? Yeah. So yeah, the now the deal looks like ⁓ on day one that Iran's able to start selling oil and making making back all of their ⁓ making back all their crap. So yeah, you said it.
Darrell (1:00:23)
Wow. Went in and didn't even
take the oil. Like at least Bush had enough sense to do that.
Christopher Weeks (1:00:28)
Right.
Exactly.
Well, and w it's it's not just that, it's j it's that we're like they're gonna with all the oil revenues that they're getting, the first thing they're gonna do is just start rebuilding the infrastructure exactly how it was and ⁓ you know ⁓ they don't take us seriously, in this whole like peace through strength thing, it's all just bullshit.
Darrell (1:00:44)
Yeah. Exactly.
Agreed. Yep. Did you see where the the reflecting pool is now green and he's blaming Obama?
Christopher Weeks (1:00:55)
Yeah.
Full of algae. Yeah.
goodness. Seriously? How how's this how's this Obama's fault?
Darrell (1:01:06)
Yeah. It's
I didn't catch how, but I just caught the title that he was blaming Obama for it. It's horrible.
Christopher Weeks (1:01:14)
Yeah, I did
see they were dumping what looks like hydrogen peroxide into it. They were taking cartons and cartons and cartons of it and dumping it in there. ⁓ Yeah. Yeah, yeah, right. Give me a break. Anyway, thanks for listening. tune in next week and we'll get back at it this again. everybody, have a safe week. Thank you.
Darrell (1:01:24)
Well
That's gonna be great.
See you later.