Sunday Night CrossFit Talk - Last Chance Qualifiers Low Turn Out?

Every Sunday Night Carolyne Prevost, Jamie Latimer and Scott Switzer bring you all the news from the CrossFit Week. This week we talk about the Last Chance Qualifier being run by Mayhem and Hustle Up with a very low turnout.  Who is gonna get the last spot?  We wrap up the Nor Cal Classic with some input from Carolyne and her experience plus look at the interview Ben and Blair did with Hiller and did that change anything?  Hyrox World Championships get wild, Tia withdraws, what does it all mean?

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what is going on everybody

welcome to sunday sunday

sunday night crossfit we

are here again for another

week there's so much going

on in the crossfit space

well I don't know if we've

even recovered from last

weekend's events as we move

into another week of events

um so it's just gonna get

crazy but before we get

into all the details

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We appreciate her so much.

Talk to her today.

She coached her first open

gym today since getting her

L one in December.

And she's coaching her first

class tomorrow.

So good luck to her.

She was going to start

coaching after she retired.

But with all the summer

vacations and Carolyn just

disappeared on us.

Hold on.

She's going to coach

tomorrow and start her

coaching career a little bit early.

That's awesome.

Denise, you're in the chat.

Do you guys do CAP or what

programming do you have?

Trial by fire.

That's usually...

Nothing to it but to do it.

Kind of just jump in.

There we go.

Sorry about that.

Okay, thanks.

New member, Kenneth DeLab.

Nice.

Thank you so much, Kenneth.

Lana says good luck to you.

I can't see the chat.

I was trying to see if I

could see the chat and then

it just kicked me off of this.

I had my computer beside,

so I should be good.

Yeah, if you want to see it, Carolyn,

pull up the YouTube, just mute it.

Yeah, that's what I did.

So on my computer,

I went on the YouTube

because I had to use my

phone for this tonight.

So it should be good now.

Denise says they're doing

deadlifts tomorrow,

so it'll be easy to coach.

You've got the expert right

here tonight if you have any questions,

Denise.

Bend and snap.

Bend and snap.

There we go.

All right.

So we got that out of the way.

Happy Father's Day to all

you dads out there.

This is my twenty fourth

year of being a dad.

It's the best job I've ever had.

And I'm so glad that my

daughter is traveling from

Chicago back to Montana.

She called me today from the

airport and we got a chance

to talk for about twenty minutes,

which was really cool.

That time is nothing but value.

So it's really cool.

But happy Father's Day to

everybody out there.

I know we have a lot in the chat.

So do you guys do anything

special this weekend?

We did the Community Cup.

I need to put that in the rundown.

How did it go?

Good.

We had there was like I

think there was only like

fourteen members that

actually signed up for it.

So we had three heats of

three heats of seven basically.

Um, and I had like my judges be judge,

judge.

And then we just, as their break,

we did the workout and then,

then did workout two,

same thing and then lifted.

So it was, it was good.

I think, I think like,

I think pretty workout one was okay.

I didn't love the scaling

right to handstand pushups.

Like I,

I don't know.

The scaling, I feel like,

is a little weird.

We had a lot of complaints

about age group not being scaled.

So, like, for Jim, it was very awkward.

I mean, it was just – it was really weird,

especially workout two.

You didn't like their – I

thought their scalings were good.

So, Jim had to just do level seven,

so he would have –

it's really weird for a

sixty five year old like

jim would do women's

weights but he had to do

hand release push-ups I

think yeah so he had to do

um no kipping handstand

push-ups okay which

whatever I told he ended up

not one he did he backed

that one down even more he

ended up not doing it legit

because it just didn't

really make sense um

because I told him he could

use an ab mat because they

usually have a riser for his age group

And then in the second one,

he can't overhead squat

more than like seventy five pounds.

So he had to go down.

And nor would he even in the open.

Right.

Because he would do like women's weights.

Or seventy sixty five or seventy five.

And they wanted him to do ninety five.

Tell him to not be so fit in

the open then.

Yeah.

I think what it is,

is there there's no age

groups in the community cup.

Correct.

So all the scalings are

based on the elite group.

The elite division.

And so it's different than

what the age groups

experienced in the open.

Yeah.

Yeah, it was.

And so I had like,

I had a teenager and I had

Jim and I had my mother-in-law.

So both opposite ends of the

spectrum where I was like,

I will just level it for you.

So they didn't actually sign

up for the community cup.

If you want to still like try to do it.

And it was, it was fine.

It just,

they really need to consider

adding the age group in my opinion.

Lana said so tough for me at seventy six.

I was intermediate.

Yeah.

And if you've been following along,

Corey Leonard uses ab mats

for his age group, too.

Oh, that's good, Lex.

I laughed at that because I

just finished listening to

that lunch show yesterday and I was like,

wait, why is Corey using an ab mat?

So it was actually a garden

mat like the thinner one.

really squishy ones not that

there's an excuse for it

any pat on your head is not

allowed right unless you

rise your hands up to meet

it right um I got that he

should know better that's

what I said so many dms

yeah and then he was mad

that he only got like he

got certain time off and

I'm like you're lucky it's

not just an invalid video

because to me normally

that's an invalid video

agreed like it's not just time off

Normally they want to count.

We're not talking about you.

We're ripping you apart right now, Corey.

Yeah.

So Corey just makes up his workout anyway.

He'd read half the

directions and then make up

the rest and hope, hope it all fits.

Um,

Our gym did the community workouts Monday,

Wednesday, and Friday this week.

Okay.

So we put them into the

classes and it was good.

The community liked it.

Some of them just,

we wrote all the versions

on the board and then they

just chose the one that

they wanted to do.

Like a lot of them didn't

sign up for the community cup.

Some of them did.

And then they kept in their division.

But for the majority of the

members that we had that

were just doing the classes those days,

they just picked the

appropriate one that they

wanted to do and then stuck

to that version.

um they enjoyed it a lot of

prs on the front squat one

on friday um and the hang power clean so

The idea of it is good.

I agree.

It's not the right time

where there's a bunch of

semifinals going on.

The promotion of it wasn't as good.

I think a good time would

have been in July, maybe,

when the semifinals are all

done in May and June.

Or a little bit later in

June when it's a little bit

more dead period of the CrossFit stuff.

And then you can kind of

push it a little bit more.

But our members liked it.

Cross that S would,

would buy and be better if

the community cup just

scaled the last chance qualifier.

I think it totally would.

I think that would have been, first of all,

I think a lift in a

community cup is silly.

Just everyone.

Like I have thoughts about,

should we have the last chance qualifier,

which we're going to get

into later in the show.

And what that should look like.

But I do,

if on the face of what this question is,

I think you'd get a lot

more buy-in if you combine

the two together.

so selfishly like I would

have liked to have done one

or two workouts and even

like even to share with

carolyn and I there was

like no way I was going to

be able to do any of them

also trying to set up for

this community cup for the

gym and stuff and so I I

think it was a terrible

weekend father's day

weekend you're doing it the

same time and I get it like

twenty people competed in

the last chance qualifier

so it doesn't really affect

that so much but like I

would have liked to do some

of the last chance qualifier workouts

for fun or to help Carolyn

with scores or any reason.

And that wasn't doable with it being,

and had it been leveled out,

I would have just done them.

It was so hard to find

judges this weekend.

It was incredibly hard.

And I got six people to have

their advanced courses with

their level one and everything.

And I swear all of them had

stuff to do this weekend.

Like for Father's Day weekend,

they're away.

High school reunions,

like anything was happening this weekend.

Like it was,

It was shit show.

It's just so hard on the

athletes to have these two judges.

Like I wish I wish I wasn't

such a burden to like other

people's schedules and

everything like that.

And I could just film my

workouts and submit and not

have to worry about two

people that are have all

these qualifications.

Like it definitely puts a

lot of people at a disadvantage.

I, yeah, I agree with that.

Like I almost like a, Hey,

I'm just going to submit my video.

Like I trust my movement,

judge me super hard on video, but like,

here you go.

Here's my video.

Like, yeah, so much easier.

Yeah.

I do that all the time in

online qualifiers where like, I just,

I just do them.

I film them and then I

submit my video with it.

And it's like, okay, judge me.

Like,

I don't have time to wait around on

people's stuff.

Like if I'm coming directly

after school and I'm the

only one in the gym, like,

I'm not going to have a

judge there half the time.

So I just, yeah,

I always just film and then send.

So two things,

anything you schedule from

Memorial Day to Labor Day,

you're going to have a hard time.

It's true.

Families are on vacations.

They're, you know,

people are in and out of

the gym all summer long and

it makes it just harder.

It's the pool is shallower

to pull from to get judges, et cetera.

The other thing is,

Why two judges when you have,

as Lex put it,

seven men and twelve women

do the last chance qualifier?

You should be able to do

full video review of all

nineteen people and all five videos.

Absolutely.

I think it's nine and

fifteen or something like

that for the numbers.

But still, it's yeah.

I mean,

we've already done eight workouts

all against each other online.

So I just don't know what

the point of these last

chance qualifiers are.

You could just take all

those athletes that didn't qualify,

put all their scores together,

and then just take the top

person of those eight

workouts just against each other,

and boom, they're on.

They've proven themselves, let's say,

in person or in some sort of capacity,

plus the Open, and there you go.

Well,

that gives you – that gives the

argument also towards

programming being the same

amongst all the –

semi-finals because you

would just you would just

know right if you wanted to

take a last uh like final

person out of that you

would just have and maybe

it's only two or three like

we did heavy is about

basically but so maybe it's

like three workouts at

every are the same and then

like three randoms that

cups want to do the semis

want to do themselves and

then you use those scores

I think it's hard when when

people do them on different

weekends different sure

boring different spacing

between the movements I

think the only way that you

could use those scores for

the last for like a last

chance qualifier is open

and online semis where you

have eight scored events

that's it yeah yeah you

could have taken those but

you might as well just give

it to the extra spot in the

online semis then almost

I would argue someone's more

well-rounded if you count

the open ones because these

are all high-skilled workouts.

None of these workouts this

weekend were really

difficult on the engine.

It's all upper body stuff.

I think there's a press in

every single one of the workouts.

The open styles a lot of

times are different style

of workouts where people

can get exposed in...

other other styles of things

and not just high skill

higher weights so I think

counting the three open

workouts could be valuable

to see an overall fitness

and not just the high skill

I think the whole last

chance qualifier needs to

be revamped yep we've

already dove into it let's

dive in even more we'll

finish this up and we'll

talk about what we think could be better

But there's been low turnout

for the last chance qualifier.

You said it, Carolyn,

like nine and fifteen have

submitted scores.

Now there's more on the leaderboard,

but like a handful from

each group did not submit

scores even at the first deadline.

Well, you have one spot.

That is weird.

Um,

so the one thing that was brought up

this morning by Jr was that

now you see the, the,

the first three scores,

some of those people do not

have a chance unless like

everybody got penalties.

Right.

Right.

if they don't submit the

second score and the

barbell spin pointed this out as well,

then the first three scores

get weighted heavier than

the last two scores.

And then you have one big

cluster going on in the scoring system.

It was suggested that if you

do not submit all five scores,

you should be taken off the

leaderboard completely.

So all the scores are weighted the same.

Yeah.

They're never going to do that.

That's like saying they

should have taken Guy and

Elisa Fuliano scores out of

these other comps because

they impacted the leaderboard.

Like they're not going to do that.

It's so lazy.

I mean,

it would be easy to do with this

few of athletes in the field.

I think that that would be

the right thing to do would be to,

to zero out the scores,

but the turnout is so low.

Cause you only have one spot.

So you look at the workouts

and you're like,

I don't have that like a chance.

I mean,

I looked at them and I knew that

they weren't good for me.

And I just,

I signed up because I don't

have many years left of competing.

And I felt like I still

earned the last chance qualifier spot.

So I'm like, okay,

I will finish up this part

of my year and do the best

that I can knowing that I

had some weakness stuff in

these workouts.

Like I know I'm not getting

like that top spot,

but for a lot of other

people that are younger,

have other things that

they're training for.

I mean,

why would you sign up and pay

seventy five bucks if you

know you're not getting that spot?

Like it's.

So it's funny when I looked

at the workouts,

and you kind of go radio

silent on us when you're

competing on the weekend.

So we don't have any clue how you're doing,

just so the audience knows.

We have no intel on how

you're doing or how it's going.

You kind of just go off by yourself,

and we respect that.

I looked at the workouts and I thought,

Carolyn's going to do the first workout,

see how the double unders go,

and decide if she's going

to put the seventy five bucks in.

And then not until she knows

how the double unders went,

will she invest the money.

Then when I saw you show up

on the leaderboard, I went,

double unders must have

went better than anticipated.

You know,

I actually didn't have a bad day

of double unders.

Like my first two rounds

were like unbroken.

And that's so good for me.

Round three, not as good.

And then round four went back to like bad.

I just need to like,

I'm not there yet with the

volume of double unders

with my newer technique.

Once I start getting a

little bit of shoulder fatigue,

then I just start resorting

back to what I know or what

I shouldn't know.

I don't know what to do.

Um,

yeah, that, that event was bad.

I think I was like last.

You were not last,

but you were not first by for sure.

Um, so how did the workouts go overall?

You've done all of them, I assume,

unless you're doing a

midnight run of something tonight.

No, no.

Uh,

First one, honestly, for me,

it wasn't that bad.

I think if I did that number one last year,

I would be a minute to two

minutes slower just because

I would be like hunched over,

breathing with such high anxiety,

missing even more on the

first and second round.

Yeah,

I had a lot of trouble this weekend

getting mentally into the workouts,

to be honest.

I didn't even warm up for

the burpee row one.

I just kind of practiced my

burpee over the rower and

just went for it.

I knew that that one would be good for me.

I'm good with burpees and hinging.

So I just kind of did that one.

I think I got third in that one.

The ring muscle-up one,

I'm good at ring muscle-ups.

The shoulder fatigue from...

I mean, everything was shoulders.

This entire thing was all upper body.

The first one is engine and

shoulders for the clean and

jerks and double-unders.

The second one,

the limiting factor was burpees and again,

shoulder pressing.

The third one,

you have ring muscle-ups and

overhead squats, shoulders.

The fourth one,

you'd have more shoulders

with the wall balls and

then climbing a rope.

So you have pulling that

being like the rope is the,

is the workout.

And then the last one is all

about the handstand pushups.

So this entire like five workouts,

it's just all been shoulders really.

Like I'm,

I miss the workouts that like

test the legs.

I just feel like we're putting so much,

and these are great tests, great tests.

I just feel like we're not

testing legs anymore.

Like there's no,

there was no workout that

was so hard on the engine,

maybe a little bit number two.

They're all like higher skill,

just like if you have the movements,

stamina.

I think that they're missing

a dense lower body workout.

Judy Reed asks the question,

were you burnt out from last weekend?

Not physically, I think mentally.

Physically, I felt fine this weekend.

Mentally, I think I was still...

not quite over last weekend

and everything that

happened even after that was,

it's been kind of like a roller coaster,

but physically I felt fine this weekend.

Like I took Monday,

Tuesday and Wednesday off

fully and then went for the

workouts Thursday after work.

So a couple of things we

found out this week about

the last chance qualifier

is the final review will be

done by this coming Friday.

That the review is

apparently being done by CrossFit.

And my question about that

is they've been very hands-off.

Now, all of a sudden,

they're going to be hands-on,

which is very conflicting to me.

And then CrossFit made the

decision to reveal the

leaderboard on Saturday

night that to hustle up,

people actually wanted to

keep it a blind leaderboard

until the end of the weekend.

Do you think that matters to

what happens this weekend?

Like if people post their

second or their fourth and fifth?

Hustle Up was not going to

reveal the scores at all

until the end of the weekend.

Yeah,

I had emailed Hustle Up early in the

week and I had asked that

particular question.

I was like, is this a blind leaderboard?

And Facundo had replied back

to me and he said, yes,

it'll be a blind leaderboard.

And then the day after he goes, hey,

just to follow up on that,

it's not going to be a blind leaderboard,

just letting you know.

So I knew, I knew prior.

Yeah.

At least that.

Yeah.

So he went back to email me

the following day to let me know.

So I knew, I knew before the,

the workouts got released,

went like that.

It wasn't going to be blind.

Judy also says,

I feel for athletes like

Carolyn and Nate having to

go back to back,

especially with how

everything went down last weekend.

And I think you and Nate

were at the mental fatigue

that had to take to be in

it right up until the last

second of the weekend had

to drain you guys.

Yeah, I think mentally, yeah.

We also found out that the

workouts were sent in from

all over the world,

and then they were curated

by Facundo and Angelo DiCicco.

And then they were tweaked

to make sure that it was a complete test.

So we know how much you love

mayhem programming.

I do.

I do like mayhem.

I know, but we have,

we've been talking all

season that mayhem has had

their hands in everything.

And here's another part of

the season that may,

that is mayhem driven.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I knew it's funny because I

knew right away when I saw

the names of the programmers, I saw Rich,

I knew right away there was

going to be a workout with

a hundred double unders and

like in multiple sets.

Cause he does that one on

like a version of a hundred double unders,

almost every qualifier I've seen him do.

Like I remember a few,

a few years ago for mayhem,

there's a twenty minute one,

another mayhem one.

I knew the hundred double

runners were coming as soon

as I saw Rich.

But yeah,

I was wondering how they were

putting that together.

If it was CrossFit that put

all those people together

and then kind of tweaked the workouts.

And then I read that it was

Mayhem that put it all together.

So again, not surprising.

They're involved in a lot this year,

everything.

But yeah, they're good tests.

They're very good workouts.

I just...

I just find we're missing legs.

There were legs involved,

but they had no impact on the workout.

The overhead squats,

you're not missing those

reps of overhead squats

because of your legs.

It's all about the shoulders

stabilizing from the ring muscle-ups.

The lunges were no issue in that workout.

It was just the front rack

maybe could tire you out

for the handstand push-ups,

but the lunges were easy.

And the wall balls...

it's mostly upper body it's

it's that one is really

about um the legless so I

just find that like you're

missing a test that's

limiting by the legs

To me,

the legs are such an important part

of fitness.

It's the biggest part, I think,

of fitness and just athleticism.

And I find that CrossFit is

starting to go into a lot

more just upper body push-pull.

If you have upper body

high-skill push-pull stamina,

you're doing great in this

sport with some strength.

That's the most important

thing that we value in CrossFit.

Doug Reed, if it's mayhem,

be ready for double-unders in GHD.

For sure.

I'm just still behind.

It's going to take a while

for me to get better.

You finished Saturday night.

You were in fifth.

Do you feel like you have a

shot to get the last spot?

No.

I'll move down.

The people that are behind

me will be better at these

workouts than me.

I'll probably finish I think around

don't know maybe seven to

nine seven to ten because

we're all just separated by

like not many points um

yeah I don't know I don't

have a shot for these ones

not for these workouts and

the lead that yonakoski has

on the men's side I don't

think is I don't think is

even possible unless he

really really messes up

Yeah, I don't see him losing that lead.

I could see the girl in first losing it,

though.

I think that these are great

workouts for Kyra.

When they came out,

I thought about Kyra right away,

that these would be great for her.

I think these last two,

and Kyra and Lydia are tied right now.

They could push.

I just don't know the girl

that's in first enough

about her strengths and

weaknesses for these last two.

According to JR,

she's not good at handstand

push-ups at all.

If that's the case,

then I could see one of those two girls,

maybe even the Jamie,

possibly sneaking in there.

But I feel like you only

have that option if everyone,

if all the girls do the

workouts and submit their scores.

If only the top five or six do,

it might not really be

enough to knock her down enough.

Do you think that a lot of people won't?

I feel like most people will.

Some of the people lower on

the leaderboard have

submitted their scores already.

Good.

Well, that's good.

I checked it right before we

went on the air.

There was, I think,

six that have submitted

their scores already.

Okay.

And none of the top

five had submit your score

carolyn I don't want to it

was bad my wall facing just

went to poop I think it'll

go to poop for a lot of

people uh it I mean I think

jr said this it's kind of

like that quarterfinal or

was it semifinals workout

And that was only ten,

and people were failing and

unable to get.

I think that was twenty.

Was it twenty?

Yeah, I remember it being twenty.

I have twenty in my mind.

It wasn't a lot, and people were failing.

Yeah.

Yeah, I failed a couple there tonight.

I mean.

Mole says we are rooting for you, CP.

I mean,

I gave it my best shot on these workouts.

That's where these ones were

for my strengths and weaknesses.

Keeping it real,

we're going to get to that

in just about forty five seconds.

So the last thing I want to

say about last chance qualifier.

And another reason that like

we are going backward in

this sport is not being

able to see any of the

workouts and to see like I

would love to go see what

Yona is doing to be back

after a couple of subpar

performances this year.

Like, why does he look so good in this?

And I cannot see it.

I wouldn't say sub subpar.

He was third.

One spot out.

I know I'm giving,

I'm being a little hard on him.

Yeah, but he's like, but he's a perennial.

Right.

Like you, like I expected Nate to be,

I did not expect it to be

that big of a point spread.

I would think their workouts

would be similar and it'd

be a three point to three point spread.

So yeah,

I would love to see his workout

and see his,

what he did differently.

And then we taught,

we've talked about that a lot,

especially like in the masters,

not having public

leaderboards is a problem.

You, you as a competitor,

can't see you're robbed of

the in-person fine, whatever we get it.

It costs money.

Okay.

But don't rob us of seeing

our peers do the workout.

It's the only way a fan can

watch the sport.

Yeah.

fans and the athletes,

they both need that opportunity.

Yeah.

And you learn a lot watching

your competitors videos too,

because you're like,

I didn't think that was possible,

but gosh, that person was good here.

And their transition was like this.

And then you can kind of

study how to get better yourself,

especially when you don't

train with a lot of people.

Yep.

Um,

there's a lot of value in seeing other

videos and being like, wow, this,

this person really crushed that workout.

And I thought I did well, but I didn't,

you know?

Um,

And it just validates their

score where you're like, okay,

this is legit.

When you take the woman in first place,

nobody really knows her.

This would have been an

opportunity for her to get

exposure and for people to

go watch to see how good

she was in those first three events.

That being said...

Her videos should be public.

And that's something else

that frustrates the heck out of me.

I see Tom,

they pulled it up earlier with Siobhan.

I see Tom King Dunn's are public.

And I think...

I think so if you go to my

page I have every video

public if I do a comp

they're public you can go

look at my community cup

workouts I don't hide those

from people and I don't

think that any athlete that

says that like carolyn I

think your videos should be

public that like I put them

out there because I preach

that they should be out

there public and I just

think all the athletes

should just do it and

move well and don't be

scared of Hiller and they

should just be public,

like take it upon ourselves

to make them public.

If, if CrossFit's not going to force it.

And Jamie has been very

consistent about that for the last,

since she's been a part of the show.

Correct.

So what got us to this point was last week,

Carolyn, you were at NorCal.

was an emotional end for you

we didn't ask you to come

on the show we understood

everything there I want to

get your your take on some

of the stuff there you

finished third came down to

matter of microseconds or

the length of the workout

I'm keeping it real ass

would you have hit that

clean I know what you've

told jamie and I and I know

that your max clean is two fifty five

well above what that clean

was would you have hit the

clean I don't miss two

twenty five like on any

given week it was like I

ran to the barbell I

switched the ten I got to

the other ten and they're

like five I stay I took one

step back four three my

hands are on the bar and I

just like I wouldn't even

if I stood it it was past

the time cap like I just

let it go like you you weren't

weren't lifting that in

three seconds like my hands

were on the bar at three I

just missed time um didn't

distressed it a little bit

too long on the legless and

ran out of time the time

cap was very very tight

there I wish they gave two

extra minutes I think one

is I needed I mean I needed

less than one but just for

more people to finish the

wad I think if you do two

extra minutes there's a lot

of ties that just kind of goes away

Um,

but you don't have a clock on the floor

too,

to kind of look at your times between

the legless rope climbs and everything.

Like my competitors that I was like,

that I was going against Holta and, um,

Hattie are,

are significantly better than

me on the legless.

So I knew that they were

going to be ahead of me,

the entire wad there.

So originally I was just

banking on the two thirty

five and I was like, I can hit that.

And I don't know if they will.

And I was like,

I can go as slow as I want

because I didn't even know

it was a seven minute time

cap until I just didn't

even look it on the

competition corner until

maybe an hour before.

And I was like,

that's a fast time cap

because I knew that the

other divisions were going

and they're not even

finishing and changing their own weights.

I'm like, this is really fast.

And then the first heat went

and no one finished.

And I was like,

I don't think people are going to finish.

And this is going to become

a legless rope climb event.

And I was like, ah,

and then they lowered the weights.

And I was like, no, cause I wanted the two,

fifteen second bar too,

because that makes a

difference in terms of the

speed of stuff.

Um, yeah,

I just wish we could have had a

proper finish.

You talked about it plenty of times.

Um,

so that like we could have looked at

each other.

know and it's like all right

who's gonna do it right um

because I think she had

just missed a rep maybe one

or two reps I wasn't sure

um and it would have been

cool to just like I mean

twenty more seconds or ten

seconds more where I can

just like actually back up

tighten the belt and then

actually get set up for it

and then with her setting

up at the same time like

that would have been an

epic finish and I just feel like we were

just robbed of that finish.

Cause it, I mean,

if they didn't have a

tiebreaker on that event,

there's a lot of times

where they don't have a

tiebreaker on and it's just your score.

Like if they don't have a tiebreaker,

it's a different outcome as well.

Like there were so many different,

like it just happened to be

that the box jump was,

she was ahead of me the whole time though,

because of the legless that

she has much better than me.

But I felt like I have a

better clean than her.

So I just didn't get to

showcase that part.

I just ran out of time.

And I'm not playing

favorites because the two

people I'm probably closest

with in this whole sport

were the two of you.

And I wanted you both to get

tickets and it just wasn't

going to work out.

Alex was so far out in front,

and then it came down to you two.

Hallie was on this channel

for nine months doing her ballet show.

You are a co-host of this show.

I was torn,

and I wanted you both to

somehow tie and both get a ticket,

and it was tough.

But I know,

looking at every one of your cleans,

you are hitting them so

easy compared to everybody else.

Squat cleans is one of my

favorite movements.

Like that's probably my

favorite movement to do is

squat cleans over dead lifting,

even though I'm probably

better at dead lifting for reps,

but I do really enjoy squat

cleans like in general, the movement.

Yeah.

Just run out of time.

Maybe if a clock was on the floor,

I could have timed it better.

I don't know.

Just, yeah,

there was a lot like after that event,

there was just a lot of,

things I was proud of for the weekend.

Cause going into the weekend, like,

you know,

I looked at the list of the

females and I was like,

if everyone's healthy here and whatnot,

like it's gonna be very

difficult to get a top two,

just like knowing where I

am in my career and stuff.

And a lot of people that are younger,

like I didn't expect to be

in the position I was.

almost the whole weekend.

And I was looking at Lex and I was like,

I'm in the hunt.

I was just competing well.

I had a horrible day of

Isabelle two or three times

the week before.

I would have got time capped,

twelve minutes.

I couldn't power snatch it.

I was missing ten times in

the Isabelle practices the week.

I had zero confidence in my

snatch going into the event.

And then I powered

twenty-eight out of them.

wow on the floor and it's

just like if I had a good

power day it was good if I

don't then it was going to

be bad and I started off

with that event and I was

like okay here we go like I

was like that wasn't that

bad of a finish for me for

um a workout that I don't

wouldn't think that I would

do particularly well and

then some of the gymnastics

one I ended up getting like

second or third with the

biker like things were just

kind of going in my

direction I was building momentum

And then, yeah,

the second or the last day

was I knew that those workouts were,

I had a couple things and

then like the run that was

going to be a little bit more difficult.

I knew the girls that were

around me were much better

runners than me.

that was a show on the start

of the row my judge pointed

me to the wrong rower so

I'm on kristen holt's rower

and my feet are stuck and

she's waiting for me to get

off and I just can't get my

feet out because it's like

I didn't get I didn't get

set up properly and then

I'm like oh my god I can't

get my feet up I get to my

rower and I can't get my

feet in it took me twenty

three seconds to even start

rowing I was about a

hundred and twenty five meters

off of the people that were

like beside me at the very

start of that and I was

like oh my god my overall

time is going to be so bad

right now but the road the

road didn't matter like

didn't impact my score

because it's when you pull

the handle it was set to a

two cake down so that it

would have a problem yeah

so as soon as you pull the

handle um but I don't know

why don't do that

but I couldn't I couldn't

put my feet in it so I just

had yeah so that that one

right total yeah yeah it

affects my overall but um

not my row so that one I I

I'm not I mean I lost a lot

of points there that could

have put me in a better

position going into the final

CrossFit says no clock on

the floor is insane.

Shelly Young,

should have been a nine-minute time cap,

especially with you

changing your own weights.

Phil B,

if nobody finishes or just one athlete,

that is a big miss,

especially if the weights

were programmed heavier in

the first place.

And then there's the big question,

and we talked about this in our chat.

And you were very adamant in our chat,

and I want the people to know.

Clock is asking,

what if Alex withdraws from the games?

By rule,

you are the backfill from NorCal

that would get that position.

You said emphatically in our chat,

that is not how you want a spot.

You want to earn your spot.

And you love Alex and you

just wanted her to be okay.

And so I wanted everybody to

know you were saying that

the minute the car accident happened, you,

your thoughts were all on

her and her being okay.

Yeah, I mean, I was at the Games,

Alex's first year.

I think we both got cut that year.

And then the following year,

she got Rookie of the Year,

I'm pretty sure.

But I've just kind of seen her process.

And, you know,

I know Justin from all the competitions.

And you've seen Alex's

progress over the years.

And...

Seeing her win WFP,

seeing her be dominant the

way she was on the field at NorCal,

you know she's on the

trajectory to probably,

if everything goes well at the games,

the podium.

Right.

Like she's if Tia's not there,

like possibly even could

contend for that top spot.

Like that's how good she's

been looking this year.

And she was even going to

test workouts for me this weekend.

Like she was like rooting

for me a little bit like this weekend.

And we had some great chats and she's like,

whatever you need for the last chance,

if you need some input,

if you want me to test something,

let me know.

And then I hear that and I'm like, oh,

my gosh, like what a crazy thing.

thing to happen.

And I was glad that she was, you know,

alive at that.

I wasn't sure the extent I

had seen a comment on a YouTube video.

It was like,

she'd gone to head on car crash,

like pray for Alex and Jake.

And I was like,

I messaged Lex and I was like,

what's going on here I was

like is this is this like a

fake account like did

something happen and then

um Lex wrote to Justin and

asked him if if there was

something that had happened

and then he had

communicated with her that

they had gone in an

accident but they haven't

released any information

yet to anyone um but that

like it,

it was a bad accident and stuff

like that.

So yeah, I mean, it's,

it just puts other things

into perspective in your, in your life.

Cause we're so, you know,

focused on the sports,

on the outcomes and stuff,

but we're all humans at the

end of the day and, you know,

things can happen to anyone at any time.

Like we're not invincible.

So it just kind of, you know,

It was sad, and I'm saddened for Alex.

We've had some communication, her and I,

the last few days.

CrossFit has also called me

on Tuesday night to

essentially say to stay ready in case.

Um,

cause I wasn't sure what the process

would be for that.

If they go to a second place

of the last chance qualifier,

if they don't backfill, um,

just like what that was for the process.

Um,

and they've extended the timeline for

her.

Um, I think she mentioned it to people.

Cause I, I have a, I have a specific date,

but I don't think it's my

place to say the date, um,

three weeks before the games.

Okay.

Yeah.

So that line to withdraw.

Yeah,

so that's the deadline that the

CrossFit Games team has given her.

And her intentions are to

put herself in the best

position to go to the Games.

But I think that she'll go

to the Games if she's medically cleared.

I don't think she'll

jeopardize necessarily the

rest of her season, like the WFP season.

But she's also earned her

right to the Games.

So I'm not sure what she'll

end up deciding and at what

capacity she'll be at the Games.

But in the things that I can control,

I'll train as if I'm going to the Games.

And if it happens, it happens.

If it doesn't,

then I'm also continuing to

train for the Masters CrossFit Games.

Does that actually make it

easier because you qualified for masters?

So you're going to be training anyway?

I would train anyways, anyway.

Like I train almost like the

same way the entire year.

I'll change.

I'll just do a little bit

more odd object things,

more running in the summertime.

But when I'm off work,

like I have a few more weeks left of work,

I...

I have more time to train.

Like the summer is when I

can train more actually,

cause I'm full time.

Um, but I, I would train anyways.

Like I'm, I'm,

I could compete at any point

in the year at a pretty good capacity.

Like that's just how I always was.

Like I don't take these long time off,

like off, off of workout.

Um,

I might take a couple of days after a

competition, like two to three days off.

And then I,

work out like I just I keep

moving I don't think lex

would let me take that much

time off because she needs

to move like every single

day she'd be like get your

butt in the gym with me uh

craig says more jump roping

yeah I want to add some

more volume there um and

definitely different types

of ropes because for a long

time I wasn't allowed to

use any other types of rope

because it ruins my

technique like the drag

rope or stuff like that

because it changes the way that you

have your hands or just will

use your arms and your wrist.

But I think I'll have to use

different styles and just

kind of up my volume of

double unders as I prepare.

Kipping it real says,

I love Masters athletes

making it to the regular games.

It makes me feel better about aging.

And there's been a lot of

sentiment in the chat that

Nobody wants Alex to get hurt,

but if anybody was to fill her spot,

they want it to be you.

So, um, and a lot of people said that,

but I didn't want to pull

them all up just for, for sake of time.

I did, I didn't have this on the agenda,

but I did want to talk

about one thing because

someone brought it up in the cross fat,

brought it up in the comments and it was,

um, Justin made a post this week and, um,

It really, really hit me hard.

And so I wanna, I wanna share it.

So what just he posted was,

I'm not going to lie to you.

This week was a tough one.

Alex was in a serious car accident.

And while it could have been much worse,

the reality is the rest of

her season is in jeopardy.

And honestly, it's hit me hard.

Over the last five years,

I've watched athlete after athlete.

I've coached to be right

there on the verge,

primed to do something

special to CrossFit Games

only for something out of

their control or a freak accident,

rip the rug out.

In twenty twenty one,

Bethany and Carrie got

covid and missed the games.

Both were potential podium finishers.

In twenty three,

it was Ricky primed to win

with this with his shoulder injury.

And now this season, Alex.

And of course, on the personal side,

my daughter's my daughter,

Ivy's battle with IGA

nephropathy has put life in

real perspective.

You want to be mad at the world.

You want to throw your hands up and say,

what the hell else?

But here's the truth, the brutal truth.

Life is just hard.

It's hard, stacked on hard,

stacked on hard.

And if you're not good at the hard,

if you can't endure it, learn from it,

battle through it,

you're never going to be

around long enough to

experience the good.

The special moments that are

so much more impactful

because of the hard.

So this post isn't about giving up.

It's not about the setback.

It's about how we respond.

It's about how we keep

showing up heartbroken, tired, sad, angry,

and still find a way to fight.

Because that's what life demands.

And that's what we do.

So this week has been a good reminder.

Handle the hard well.

And that's what I plan to do.

And the first comment is Alex saying,

love you.

We're going to rise from it.

so how do you not read that

and just want to like run

through a wall for like

justin like like that just

like you read that you just

get like fired up by by

justin's post like but what

like the all those things

that happen all those years

all those competitors that

were right there too it's

crazy and yeah it's

That's why I was so happy when,

like for him, when Alex won the WFP,

just from, you know,

he's lost some athletes in

the last couple of years.

And, you know,

some people have stuck with him.

Some people have moved on

and just to see him get that success, um,

was really cool.

And.

Yeah, I mean, Alex is still so,

so young and has so much ahead of her.

And we're just beginning to

see her potential right now.

I think she's just starting

to show us what she's capable of.

And I think in the next few years,

if she stays healthy,

she'll be a force to...

So I texted him when the

news first broke and I said,

I'm so sorry.

Like Alex was really having

one of those special seasons.

And he says, yeah, it sucks,

but we're going to have a

whole lot of special seasons.

And he has always said that about her.

Yeah.

Like there is something

special about her and his confidence.

Her has never waned even

through all this stuff.

he's a coach that just

believes so much in his athletes and,

and you just can't help but root for him.

Yeah.

Like his, his energy, his,

his passion is just

probably the best of any

coach I've seen in the sport.

Like it's so it's,

it's really cool to see.

So I know that they're going

to be working hard to

you know, get Alex back to,

to where she was.

And I'm sure there'll be

smart about whatever

decision they'll try or

they'll make together.

And yeah.

So on another note and we

all wish Alex the best that

for a fast recovery,

fast and speedy recovery.

I was really hard on Ben and

Blair all last week.

Then I watched Hiller's

video with them where they, they, they,

stood up in front of the public,

took everything they had to

give and answered all the questions.

Luckily, my last question to them,

Hiller posted and they answered.

And that was,

do you two feel like you can

turn this thing around to

be a legit event for the

CrossFit Games or do you

need to bring in other people?

And they said they've

already reorganized their structure and

And Blair was, I promise you,

we will be much, much better.

Blair and Ben are such good people.

and there they were like any

any little thing that would

happen they were ready to

still you know turn on a

dime and listen to us if we

had feedback on certain

things listen to the

appeals make appropriate

changes um like was it

perfect on the weekend no

you know but they've built

that competition the last

two years so much and the

community there is unbelievable um

It's a really fun competition to go to.

Ben and Blair are great people.

I got to know Ben's wife and

kids and stuff like that too.

I watched them compete at NorCal.

I feel like they're going to

take a lot of this

criticism and learn from it

and only get better.

There's a lot of great

pieces of that competition

that I feel like

other comps just don't have.

And it's something that's

very unique about NorCal

and it gets people to come

back every single year.

I just hope for the elite

division that they'll clean

up some of the standards in

terms of just making it

more uniform across every lane as,

you know,

we're battling for spots to the

games or whatnot.

But yeah, with the right,

with the right people to guide them,

I think that,

I think that they can for sure.

I believe in them.

I think they are a charming

and fun to watch event.

And they've always been that.

I think they do need to

reorganize and have

specific people just for the elites.

And then another group that

are for the community.

So both can get full

attention from somebody by

being pulled too thin.

It was just too much.

And,

and I do think they have a place in

the season for something,

but they've got to get that

tightened up to be a

qualifier for the games.

Yep.

Yeah.

And I'm naive enough.

And by when they told me they promised,

I believe them.

Yeah.

I, I think it's clear.

They're both very passionate individuals.

I mean, they're innovative, um,

I, it's almost as, and I,

I know this has been going on forever,

so it's not what really what happened,

but it's almost like these

like two very passionate

people started something

and it got too big for them too quick.

And I know that's not

necessarily the case because this has,

this has been big.

It's just so many eyes were

on this being the elite

qualified or the game that

there wasn't really room for error,

the errors that were there.

And they're not the only

shit show in town.

Exactly.

Like what a Palooza has been

a shit show the last three years.

Yeah.

They're just not qualifying

anybody to the games.

So we quickly forget about it.

Yeah.

Um,

and every time I talked to an athlete

right after water Palooza, they're like,

I'm never coming back.

And then six months later,

we all signed up again.

That was me for like three years.

Me and Lex, I was like,

I'm not coming back.

Next time it goes around, all right,

we're going team again.

So, you know,

they're not the only shit show in town.

And there's plenty of that

that make a lot of money.

And generally,

it's these big community events.

You have thousands of athletes there.

It's going to stretch you

thin in some way.

I think they just have to

dedicate an executive team

just for the elites.

Yeah.

But the community event, it's huge there.

It's massive.

And all the tents.

It's so cool to just talk to

so many different people.

The vendor village looked

like it was packed all weekend too.

The rest of it looked like it was very,

very successful in terms of...

you know, the competition and it's just,

just for the qualification

and especially with a lot

of money on the line too.

Right.

You want to make sure that, um,

the right people, everything, um,

are getting through.

Well, but yeah, the families are awesome.

Name another or event

organizer who stood up

after something like this

happened and took it on the

chin and let everybody just come at them.

They never hid from anything.

They were forward-facing.

Anything that people were saying,

they listened and they're

looking to get better.

And a lot of people aren't like that.

Yeah, I have a lot of respect for them.

And I feel it'll be different next year.

That was the first year that

they took on the qualifying

competition role.

It'll be...

I'll be good um denise isn't

going to wataplooza for

another reason she saw

videos of hammerheads the

next year near the venue

will I go again nope she's

just afraid of sharks yeah

that's a bit concerning um

so yeah so I think that's

it about norcal it was a

fun event to watch the races were good

Just got to clean up some things.

We'll just leave it at that.

High Rocks World

Championships were this weekend.

We were excited because Tia

was going there with two different teams.

Her and James Newberry ended

up finishing fifth in the mixed doubles.

In their age group.

In their age group.

Right.

And then she withdrew in the

women's doubles.

And they were the world

record-setting team.

And that was probably the

big one where she could

have won the world championship.

There's no reason as to why she withdrew.

Still nothing, huh?

Nothing that I've seen.

And we don't know whether, I mean,

the schedule there is extremely tight.

Joanna had already done two races.

Tia was doing that one with James,

and then I think less than

three hours later was

supposed to do the one with Joanna.

I think that's her name, Joanna.

Yeah, it's Joanna.

Yeah,

so I'm not sure if one of them didn't

feel good and didn't get

enough time to recover.

It's crazy because she put

all of her eggs in the

basket there for this event.

And to me,

if the races are going to be this close,

let's say,

and I'm just speculating right

now that Tia didn't feel

like she was going to get a

good enough performance to

recover from the first event with James.

if you have to pick one you

pick the one with joanna

where you can go get a

world record like I'm sorry

james I know I know your

best friends and stuff but

like you're going for the

record with joanna like

that that's the one that I

feel she was going for and

she was looking to do well

with james but am am I

right that joanna this

would have been her fourth race

uh of the weekend she had

already done the elite I

think she had done the

relay did she do a mix as

well she probably did a mix

with a with a guy maybe as

well so maybe that would

have been her fourth so I

don't know which one of the

two wasn't ready to go or

maybe had something going

on but it's unfortunate and

it really it makes me

wonder like what tia is

going to decide now

Because I feel like she

wanted to get a world championship.

Don't answer that question yet.

It comes later in the show.

I feel like she wanted to do

a world championship High

Rocks and win a CrossFit

Games in the same season.

I feel like that was her goal.

Yeah.

And now I'm like, well.

So I ask you this because of

the way High Rocks is designed,

and I am not a High Rocks expert.

It's way too much running

for me to pay attention to.

But

If you're doing the same

movements that many times,

time over time in a short window,

does that set you up for more injury?

Just repetitive use.

Yeah.

I mean, honestly,

just the value of running.

And it's like concrete venues.

It's not gentle on your joints.

Yeah.

I know when I did run,

like I hated concrete.

Yeah.

I'm looking for asphalt.

Cause it actually does give

a little more or,

or does getting hip checked

cause more injury?

No, that's fine.

I love a good hip check.

Yeah.

That was a nice cocky hit.

Yeah.

That would have been,

that would have been good in the NHL.

Yeah.

Nice.

So people did not see the

big news from the high

rocks weekend in the

country events where it was

USA versus Australia versus UK.

And there was someone from

the UK weaving in and out of traffic,

trying to pass Hunter

McIntyre several times.

He came up on Hunter's left and,

In my view,

there wasn't a high elbow at some point.

Whether it was intended to

touch Hunter or not, I don't know.

But then you see the UK

runner flying into the wall

after a hip check from Hunter.

High Rocks then decided to

DQ the entire US team for that move.

And then Australia moved

into the top three, which Mike Halpin,

Justin Formy,

got James Newberry a medal

because he was on Team Australia.

Is there a place for rubbing and racing?

Well, yeah.

Well, you're a cross-country runner.

From my understanding,

like every high school cross-country meet,

there is elbows, bumps...

Cause you're a mass start trying to get,

do we not remember Ben

Smith doing the belly flop on the beach?

Cause he got run into the

year he won the games and

then he pops right back up

and heads out for the swim.

I think in the mass starts at the games,

we've seen people like

elbow people's stomachs and

stuff like that.

We we've heard Cole Sager say like,

I'm beating him to the

corner and my body's bigger than that.

And I'm, I'm going to take my chances.

Yeah.

And the thing is, I don't,

I don't think it was unprovoked.

That's the problem.

Like if, if Hunter just hip checked them,

that's one thing,

but it's usually because of

continuous contact that

something extra like that happens.

And when it, I mean, it's on to,

in my mind,

it's a little unfair to DQ the

entire team when I don't

feel it was unprovoked.

uh shiz graphics also

there's race code and the

uk uk guy did not follow

right high school

cross-country meets can be

brutal especially the

starts my oldest ran three

years in high school it

definitely sends like high

rock sent a message though

with that decision um that

they're not going to

tolerate anything like that

That was a big decision to take.

I agree.

I'd rather have seen a

thirty second or minute

penalty or something.

Whatever you think it like.

I don't know.

I don't know that you DQ the team.

I think his partner also

threw him under the bus in

one of his posts or

something too that I saw.

That's not good.

James Newberry is as of this

moment the CrossFit Games

team champion and the High

Rocks team champion.

Oh boy.

That's cool.

That's really cool.

Yeah.

That's really cool.

Tristan Patrick, Robbins Racing.

If you're not first, you're last.

Raph,

who's going to be on the show next week,

talking about teams.

What's the rules in Olympic running?

High Rocks wants to go to the Olympics.

They're going to follow

whatever the standard is for Olympics,

I'm guessing.

Yeah, that would make sense.

I didn't know that they

wanted to go to the Olympics.

Yeah, I do think they want to, uh,

and you would get DQ in the,

in the Olympics for impeding.

I,

I almost feel like this kind of a

situation in the Olympics

may have bet may have cost

both of them a DQ though, the way that,

that,

because the first interference and yeah.

Yeah, I agree.

Yeah, that's cool.

That's cool that they want

to go to the Olympics, though.

Yeah.

Have them do solo,

then I'd give them credit.

Team championship week sauce

to stand on pedestal.

Well, yeah.

Other thing about High Rocks

this weekend is their turf business.

I don't know if you've been

following all that.

Holy smokes.

They put out a statement, too.

Yeah.

I mean, that's a good,

they've been communicating

on Instagram over the weekend on,

you know, a lot of stuff, which is good.

I don't know if, you know,

everything in the back end,

if they've in the past had

bad communication.

But as someone who doesn't

do the sport and just has

been following this weekend,

it seems like there are

some big decisions made and

some good communication to

the public on different things.

And they've addressed their own faults,

which is cool to kind of,

which is cool to read.

I don't know what they'll do

with that turf.

I didn't hear this, so can you fill me in?

They got a new turf and they debuted it.

I actually think it's venues.

I don't know,

but they got a new turf

that's the official turf

now of High Rocks, and they

sort of debuted it here at

worlds which was probably a

terrible time to use it

like I don't been tested

enough and like so there

were certain lanes there's

a video of a man man and a

woman um pushing the sled

and you can see like she

can't push it at all he's

struggling to push it and

he like gets fed up and

walks over to another lane

and shows how easy it is to

push on a different lane and he's like

So like clear in a lot of

people complain on that,

like it was taking them two

to three times longer than

the sled should take them.

And they were so gassed that

they couldn't even like

really run the next

leg um and it just cost them

their whole race and that

sucks to train if you've

done this you know for a

year a whole season and

you're training for this

world and then a sled zaps

you and you can't like you

don't get the time

replacement that you feel

you probably trained for

that's not and they talked

about the sleds that like

normally if they can see

that a sled is not moving

as well they would change

it out and because

obviously the the the use

of the sled and how much

it's been used would would

also impact the the

resistance that it would

have so they just said that

they noticed it too late

and acknowledged that fault

that they didn't switch the

stuff out um fast enough

but I mean yeah sleds has

been a problem and

arse forward like I wonder

if they would ever change

their race and do another

movement I don't think that

they will just because

they've been doing the sled

push and pull but you

wonder like because like

it's friction like there's

there can be differences

and they've acknowledged

that they should remove it

and put a gator push in

they've been taught I've

heard people suggesting

they get like torque tanks

Not that that's everyone's favorite,

but removes the torque tank.

The problem with that is it

pretty much evens everybody out there.

If you're good at pushing,

you can't push it any faster.

Yeah.

I disagree.

I think,

I think the torque is a good

implement personally.

Do you want to run with it?

No, not really.

Does it like really reward you?

No, but yeah, you're,

if you're just better at

pushing a sled and,

you're going to be less

fatigued from doing it than

I am the only person old

enough to remember this is

me and jay birch uh mary

decker and zola budney in

the olympics when they ran

into each other and they

were the two favorites to

win the gold medal and they

both went out of the race

because they tripped each other up um

Yeah, we haven't been able to,

in the CrossFit,

we haven't been able to

figure out friction.

Nope.

We have no idea how to calculate it,

to make it equal, to do whatever.

So, yeah.

Yeah, I mean,

I'll be curious if they get

this turf figured out.

Jork tank the equity machine.

It's crazy because one year

when I was on the demo team

in twenty twenty three,

they made the demo team go

on every single lane with the sled.

But we only we use the same

sled on every lane,

but we had to go every

single one and be like,

does this feel fast?

Does this feel slow?

So they've tried to make

sure that it's as even as possible.

But even with a lot of testing,

sometimes there's lanes

that just go a little bit faster,

some that are slower.

Yeah.

Do you know, like anything?

Yeah.

Well,

I've reached my max that I can talk

about high rocks.

So I'm going to skip over

and we'll come back to this in a second,

but I want to go right to factor fiction.

Okay.

So I'm going to make a

statement and you two tell

me whether it's fact or fiction and why.

First,

this season will go down as the

worst structure of a season

CrossFit has ever used.

Fact or fiction?

I mean, I want to say fact,

but I can't put anything past CrossFit.

So, there could be worse to come,

to be quite honest.

Just from this year's past.

Oh, not coming forward.

I don't think so.

I don't think it's the worst.

I think people got...

different opportunities to

compete at different

sanctionals or semifinals.

Sorry.

There was still an online portion.

It just, there's some things to tweak up,

but I don't think it's the worst.

And I think for the most part,

the athletes that signed up for the open,

most of the top people are

making it there.

The field is smaller,

but I'm sure there was

worse qualification season.

Um, like from the athletes.

So maybe twenty twenty.

That was not really fair to

put on CrossFit.

Yeah.

I mean,

that would be a difficult one

because a lot of people lost their spots.

A lot of events never got to take place.

Right.

I just I pretend twenty

twenty didn't happen.

Me too.

I say fact.

I say fact because you put

the online qualifier in the wrong spot.

You took away all the

athletes from the in-person

and didn't let the event

organizers know that until last minute.

So they're marketing people

that are coming that weren't coming,

made everybody look like fools,

and then they're scrambling

to fill their rosters.

And the last chance

qualifier has been a joke.

Agreed.

Some regions were regional.

Some weren't.

Anyone, like...

Yeah,

everybody had their own rules at the

end person.

It wasn't consistent across the board.

Mayhem programmed everything

but but two events.

So I don't know,

like I so I think fact it

is the worst season we have had so far.

I agree.

But on the same token, like,

Mayhem did everything, but, like,

thank God they stepped up

and did something,

because if CrossFit wasn't

looking over anything the entire year,

like, I don't know,

maybe it would have been way worse.

Like, they did step up,

but at the same time,

there's a disadvantage to

everyone else that's not in

that Mayhem group.

um factor fiction tia having

to withdraw from high rocks

the high rocks final has

all but assured us she will

be at the crossfit games I

say fact it's tough not

knowing whether it was her

or joanna I mean I feel

like if something what

feels like something was

taken from her not of her own choice here

I mean, she has to go to the games.

Yeah, I mean, yeah,

I think she's got to go to the games.

The fact that she just

showed up at Torian and won

five out of the six events

and got like second by like

five seconds on the other event.

Like she has to go to the games, right?

Yeah, she's still going to kill everybody.

Yes, like...

I feel like you go to the games,

you get your eighth title,

your to me now becomes an

eight with the double O,

like you have your marketing like that.

Oh, you just sold her.

Yeah.

You had the seven with the T

with the T. Yeah.

Oh, the eight could be the to me.

That would be the perfect.

I'll get I'll get ten

percent of whatever she

makes from that new signature.

She'll get her design.

um kudos from stevan on the

to me I think it's a good I

think it would be a good a

good marketing it would be

the eight on its side is

there double oh it's like

the infinity which means

you just have to keep going

yeah forever there it is

and then it can be the

infinity for all-time goat

yeah so many things can be

happening we're we're

basically dragging her in

right now come on come do the games

Jenny making a practical two

hundred eighty eight

thousand dollar paycheck.

She should go.

I mean, you got to think she will.

I didn't see her.

Denise said something about

how she looked when she

crossed the finish line.

Can you elaborate on that?

Was it did she look exhausted, wiped?

She bent over and looked

tired and looked human.

OK.

You don't see Tia bending

over and looking tired ever.

So to me,

she looked like she was exhausted

at the finish line.

Yeah.

I'll try.

I'll pull up the picture.

If I can.

I saw it earlier.

She looked really spent.

Okay.

So maybe it was her.

It's just hard to believe

that she wouldn't at least

try to go for the boy with

Joy unless she really felt

like she didn't have it in her, but

Doesn't look bad there.

Yeah, she looks fine in most of this.

It's just when she crosses

the finish line at the end.

She looked fine there.

Totally fine.

She didn't punch over anything.

Right here, she looks human.

Maybe it wasn't that one.

All right.

Yeah.

I'd take your word on it.

Yeah.

I'm sure we'll get some

details out on a proven

video at some point this week.

Or they'll promise details

and then we'll watch the

whole video and they'll be coy about it.

Exactly.

That's probably what we'll get.

I mean, as long as she's not injured.

Yeah.

I think we'll see her.

All right.

Last factor fiction.

Factor fiction.

You believe Ben and Blair

have the ability to make

enough changes to be a

quality in-person

qualifying event for the CrossFit Games.

Fact.

I believe in them.

Seeing them own up to some

of these and really take the feedback,

I do.

I do believe that they can.

I just don't think many

people would have stepped

up like they did and go on Hiller,

take whatever question, address it,

accept their shortcomings,

already have other things

in place for the following year.

They were communicating all

weekend to people anytime

that people had issues and

they were listening.

And I thought that they were,

for the most part, fair with any appeals.

Obviously, the last event was difficult,

but they made the decision

that they made and they stuck by it.

And I feel like they had to

make that decision.

Yeah,

as hard as I was on them all last week,

when they came out and face the cameras,

face the public, it won me over.

And there's just something

special about NorCal.

The people, like the community.

Tristan and Carolyn,

they were boots on the ground.

Like they were affected by everything.

They can,

their heart is in the right place.

Everything else can be improved.

And it's one of the older comps, right?

Like, fit, fourteen, fifteen years.

It's only really been her.

I think it was only seventeen.

I think I heard.

That's a lot.

I think they took a couple

years off and then they

came back a few years ago.

Bubba's asking how old it is

and how long they've been running comps.

Well,

Blair and Ben have been around forever.

Like, they're OGOG CrossFitters.

But as this event,

I believe it was twenty

seventeen and then they

took it off and then came

back after that.

And Craig said, yeah,

they did a great job in the interview,

which they really did.

All right.

So we're going to finish up

with a couple of things.

Um, last Friday,

Savon had Facundo on the

show and they were talking

about the last chance

qualifier and his

relationship with hustle up

and the stuff we talked

about with last chance qualifier,

but then it got into the

sale of CrossFit and I have

no inside information.

Um,

I have no inside information.

If anybody in chat wants to add to this,

it leads me to believe that

the sale of CrossFit is pretty pending,

like happening soon.

Facundo said he believes

it'll happen by the end of the year.

It does appear that it is

the B-Sport group that will

be the one purchasing CrossFit.

And Facundo does have a

close relationship with

them as they own Northern Spirit.

They own Hustle Up.

They own a lot of CrossFit brands.

Eminent.

That's what I'm looking for, Jay Birch.

Thank you.

It does feel like it's eminent.

What are your guys' thoughts

about the sale?

This is the Daniel Chafee group.

Daniel Chafee is just rumored to be a CEO.

From what I understand,

not really part of the purchase group.

Also,

Seve wanted to know if Carolyn did

the workouts.

Yes, she did.

Yeah,

I'll probably post before I go to bed,

which will be probably

after the show a little bit.

They weren't that great for me,

but I did them to finish up

my last chance qualifier.

And just to clear up Lex did

it the first year, was year one of NCC.

Oh,

I thought it had been around way longer

than that.

Cause I did it in so big.

Yeah.

So maybe it just has gotten

too big too soon.

Like when I did in it was,

it actually was separated,

I think partly because of COVID.

Um,

so the masters were at a different

venue than the eight regular individual.

So back on the sale.

Okay.

I don't know.

I don't know.

They are in the CrossFit

space already and that they

understand it.

Even if they're a vendor,

it's an understanding that

like a private equity

company doesn't have.

Yeah,

I think there's definitely an

advantage of someone being

within the space.

I mean,

we also had someone within the

space before and it didn't work as well.

But is there a lot of people

that would be like this group of people?

Or is it just a few?

The only thing I know is

everything I've seen from Matt Souza.

And Matt Souza connects dots

and then guesses on CEOs and stuff.

And Facundo said that Matt

Souza is very smart on the

show on Friday.

So that leads me to believe

that all the red string and

the yarn and the dots that

Matt Souza connected

together are pretty dead on.

And the guy who owns all

that stuff is pretty rich.

I just hope that whoever

takes over really works on, you know,

the message behind CrossFit.

Cause like when I started, you know,

that name was so powerful and yeah,

there was people that, you know,

would make fun of CrossFit,

but like we were so tight

knit together as like

CrossFitters and did hard things.

And then over the years, you know,

the reputation has kind of

been a little bit more

negative with some stuff.

So I just hope that they go back to,

you know,

making that name stronger again

and just putting the right

people there to support the affiliates,

the communities,

like the grassroots and

just build that because

we've lost a lot of

affiliates over the years.

And there's been a lot of

copycats of CrossFit, obviously,

which people save money

from being an affiliate.

like to CrossFit,

but just making that name a

little bit stronger again

and fighting for that,

I think would help the

affiliates a lot more.

And then on the sports side,

I just hope that, yeah,

we have the right people

that can create a good

sporting path where it's just difficult.

It's difficult because the

methodology and the sport are, you know,

two different things,

but also are very important

to each other.

So I just hope that there's

some sort of good blend

between both of them.

But the most important thing

still always needs to be

the affiliates and just

helping regular people get healthier.

And the sport is just the

peak of the fitness that

CrossFit creates.

I agree with the comment.

Yes, I agree.

Mayhem will have a...

I feel like that's where it's tracking.

I think, I mean,

Rich has clearly met with

some of these people.

I think Rich has made it

pretty clear that if the

right people don't get involved,

Mayhem will be leaving CrossFit.

And I don't think anyone

wants that to happen.

So they're going to try to

ensure that he has a hand

in things moving forward.

And Hustle Up and Northern Spirit,

I believe we're both

sponsors of the Mayhem Classic.

Yep.

Um,

so there are direct connections with

mayhem.

Yep.

Um,

and there are rumors that there's our

rumors floating that

Facundo could be the CEO.

Oh, really?

Um, no, I don't like, again, I'm just,

I'm taking little bits of

information I'm hearing

from all these different places.

I don't know how much

validity there is to that.

Um,

But I do know that like

Facundo worked in

parliament in Belgium

before he even got into

CrossFit coaching.

So he does have some higher

level experience in leadership roles.

I just don't know what his

experience as a CEO would be.

I've also heard Daniel Chaffee as CEO.

He's in France, right?

Correct.

He runs the French throwdown.

Okay.

Halpin's comment here is the

first thing that runs through my head.

I've heard there is a

concern of a change to

European ownership instead

of us ownership.

But as I've heard it,

B sport is offering more

than anyone else.

And I don't know if that's

just the American in me, but yeah,

that's the first thing that like,

I just feel like

everything's going to get

pushed to the European side

and CrossFit is still

extremely us based and,

but where's the growth.

Yeah.

I mean, I get that.

I'm just from a business perspective,

like that's where the growth is.

That's where you want to.

Yeah, but we're like losing.

We are,

we've lost something here in the U

S we have, and you keep,

and if you try to push overseas,

I think you lose more.

I don't know.

Yeah.

I don't know.

It's left to be determined, I guess.

I don't think it's a bad

thing for it to expand to

Europe and other places.

Is Facundo... I don't even know.

Blunt enough to be that role?

I don't want to see another Don Fall.

I don't want to see any more

corporate speak.

I don't want to see... I

don't want any minced words.

We need somebody...

willing to be hard and talk

back to people craig says

he is maybe he is he's well

I've interacted with kundo

he's incredibly kind I

almost worry like kind to a

fault I think he can if he

needs to tell you something

that he needs to tell you

he does yeah that's true

He just doesn't do it in a dickhead way.

Yeah, that's true.

He's very diplomatic.

And maybe it's the European.

It just comes off softer.

Yeah.

I don't know.

But Facundo said he believes

that it will happen before

the end of the year.

that he hopes it happens

before the end of the year

but he believes in the same

level of percentage that it

he really does believe that

it will be by the end of

the year okay halpin said

something about if rich is

a major part of it that

will balance out the

european peace by giving

you like a u.s base but yeah

I worry somewhat,

and maybe they're rich

enough that it doesn't matter,

but I worry somewhat that

they're overpaying for this.

And then there's going to be more,

we got to figure out how to

make money type decisions

that I just think is... I'm

done worrying about other

people's bank accounts.

If they got it, let them do it.

The message needs to be

about helping the most

amount of people get healthy.

That's the message that

needs to be out there, helping people...

join crossfit and and yeah

just get just get healthy

like it is an expensive um

um thing to do so you know

getting more places and

just yeah help helping

different people that maybe

not have access to it but

yeah I think the message

needs to be just helping

people uh craig says

remember phoning senior

told us not to worry and

then that statement was

refuted by rich jr

And he didn't know what the

hell his dad was talking about.

Well,

maybe his dad had been talking to

Facundo and had some extra scoop.

So look for that.

We'll probably see some

stuff floating around.

I don't be anxious to see

what direction we go.

I believe that Facundo was

coming back on Savan to

talk about the last chance

qualifier this week sometimes.

So maybe they'll get more

into it this week or he can

say more this week.

I don't know.

A couple of quick hitters before we leave.

Um, Danny Spiegel,

it was announced that she

is going to be one of the

new American gladiators.

Um,

as a kid who grew up in the eighties

and then into the nineties,

I was a huge American, um, gladiator fan.

Uh, so I'm super stoked.

And Danny Spiegel will be awesome.

Perfect.

She does her athleticism.

She will kick ass in that show.

Yeah,

she's one of the most athletic

CrossFitters that we have in this space.

And then personality, the look,

I think that's perfect for her.

And she won't have to lock

out a muscle-up.

What'd you say?

She won't have to lock out a muscle-up.

Does she have problems with muscle-ups?

That one year,

there was... Ring muscle-ups,

questionable.

Oh, ring muscle-ups.

I had bar muscle-ups in my mind.

I didn't think about rings.

So that's going to be fun.

I'm excited to see that from

just a gladiator standpoint,

not even Danny, like the gladiator thing.

And then I'll be excited to

see Danny do it.

That's cool.

And then if people didn't see it,

Danielle Brandon made her

grid league debut yesterday.

I saw some clips of like the sandbag one.

Didn't even know she was doing it.

I didn't either.

And all of a sudden it pops up.

I was watching the Houston

thing because Lauren Olson

is a friend of mine and Carolyn's.

And she's on John Young's team.

So I was watching that.

And then I see Danielle

Brandon pop up going up

against Kelsey Keel.

Yep.

And the sandbag toss.

That's a tough matchup.

Kelsey Keel with the sandbag would be.

Oh, Kelsey killed her.

Yeah, that's tough.

Yeah.

But Daniel Brandon made a

grid league debut.

So maybe there's going to be

a little more crossover

with grid and CrossFit.

And maybe that's what both leagues need.

A little bit to energize people.

It's not as bad as it used to be,

in my opinion.

There are some movement

standards that would still

make me want to vomit.

Yeah.

But there is parts of it

that are fun to watch.

Sure.

That sandbag event was fun.

Carolyn, if you didn't see it,

it was increasing sandbags

and increasing heights of a

yoke and you had to put it

up over the yoke and it was

four different stations.

I saw Alex Smith put it on his head.

I saw a video of him and it

smushed his neck and he's like, yeah,

my neck is sore from this.

The last one,

the women had to press it

above their head and Kelsey

just tossed it.

Danielle got crushed.

Yeah.

Between those two and the sandbag,

I would pick Kelsey and anything else.

I would obviously had Danielle.

And then the last thing I

want to talk about,

and it's not going to be long.

There is a new article in

Rolling Stone magazine

about the death of Lazar

Jukic from last year.

And I do want to point out

that if you do read it,

the only people quoted in

the whole article are

people who have sat out

this season as athletes.

So it is very much a one

perspective article.

I believe everybody has the

right to say what they thought happened.

Everybody has the right to

say all that stuff,

but it is not fair and

equitable because there are

no quotes from the other side,

which I found very, very disappointing.

It is a very long article.

Um, and I was reading it and reading it,

trying to find everything I

could before we came on the air tonight.

Um, but it is all from that perspective.

It came out tonight or today.

Uh, I found it this early this afternoon.

Um, but again,

it is all from one side and

a lot of the reporting is

from like Instagram posts,

like quoting Instagram posts.

So, um,

there is Jonathan saying two days ago.

Yeah.

I,

I used to subscribe to Rolling Stone

when I was in college and that was,

it was like, and I haven't really since,

but, um,

and I thought it was a weird

magazine for it to show up in.

Yeah, that is weird.

Because they're primarily a

music magazine after that.

But the guy who wrote the

story worked for the New

York Times and was at the

games last year.

And... But anyway.

And then the only two

reporters that were quoted

are Mike Halpin and Brian Friend.

So...

That's all I really have to

say about that.

If you're looking for fair

and equitable news article,

this is not the one for you.

It is very much one-sided.

The only thing they said

that was kind of on the

other side is that the same

weekend that the Lazar

Jukic thing happened,

two college football

players died that weekend, and...

two marathon runners on the same weekend.

So it must have been just a

bad... I don't know.

But a lot of it, the rest of it was,

it was a lot,

and I'm not going to name names,

but it's a lot of athletes

that are sitting out the season.

So with that...

Back on the good news, you know,

Danielle Brandon was grid.

Danny Spiegel is doing

American Gladiators.

All that's fun stuff.

We'll find out last chance qualifier.

Tomorrow morning.

Unofficially, yeah,

in the middle of the night.

And then officially by Friday for sure.

If they actually review videos.

Netze Milano,

did they give the opportunity

for anyone at CrossFit to say anything?

They quoted official statements from.

But I don't know if that was

just like the press release

that was out or did they

actually call and ask them for opinion?

When you submitted scores,

did you have to submit a

video or is it something?

Yeah, I submitted a link to a video.

Okay.

So it goes to their back end.

So it's not like they're

asking for videos like after the,

after the fact.

So, I mean, I didn't,

I didn't see if there, if I,

I guess I didn't try to

submit without a video,

if that would work.

Cause there's a spot for a

link and I just naturally

put my link there just

assuming that you have to.

I don't know if it would let

you submit without,

but I feel like they're all there.

Most people would, I would assume,

submit with the video.

But there is nowhere that

you wrote the judges' names.

So that was very interesting

to me because that was so

hard for me to find all weekend.

And I got two people

certified this weekend.

All of this work.

And I didn't even have to

put their name down as my judges.

They introduced themselves,

but they don't know how they're spelled.

There's not going to be any...

don't think maybe I'm

assuming right now that

they'll look up their

credentials and like I

worked really hard to try

to get people I had no one

available this weekend and

I'm like wow I don't even

have to put names of people

that's ridiculous so you

wonder if they're even

going to check that because

they don't have it

documented anywhere like

how can they check it if

you didn't tell them who

Well,

I told them and I think on most of them,

I had them on a whiteboard.

I think on the last one that I did,

they only like introduced

themselves verbally, like full name.

So I guess you could go back

and match their faces to

the board of other videos that I had.

But it didn't say anything

that you had to have it

like written down.

Yeah, it doesn't.

Yeah, you're right.

So who knows what the

procedure will be for that?

But yeah, no drop-down names, anything.

Just put your score, a tiebreaker,

and the link to your video.

And then your score pops up right away.

Okay.

right guys well it's we are

over by ten minutes um and

we gotta get back to work

tomorrow again happy

father's day to all the

dads out there hope you

guys had a wonderful

weekend and uh tomorrow

lunch with the clydesdale

and then we have hattie

canyo on tomorrow night

talking about her

experience at norcal and

getting her ticket uh

that'll be an hour-long

conversation at six thirty

p.m eastern time um four thirty mountain

three thirty pacific why

don't you give the european

time too scott well she's

in the mountains that's

what popped into my head

because we had to do that

um but with that we are so

glad you were all here

great night tonight great

input in the comments and

we'll be back again next

week for sunday sunday

sunday night crossfit talk bye guys