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Do you have a dirty little secret? Welcome to the club. Dayna and Brimstone cover all the dirty little secrets in pop culture, entertainment, and current events. From Coast to Coast, the Beauty from the West and the Beast from the East are offering you a VIP ticket to this weeks scandalous gossip. Don't worry, we'll never tell..
Do you have a dirty little secret? Welcome to the club.
Brimstone:And you're all invited.
Dayna Pereira:The first rule of the dirty little secrets club is tell everyone about the dirty little secrets club.
Brimstone:We're handed out memberships free of charge.
Dayna Pereira:Step up to the VIP line and let Dana and Brimstone take you on a weekly ride of secrets Hello, my friends, and welcome back to another episode of the Dirty Little Secrets Club. I'm Dana Pereira.
Brimstone:And this is Brimstone.
Dayna Pereira:Brim, I hear you're a busy, busy man this weekend.
Brimstone:Yeah. Yeah.
Dayna Pereira:I shouldn't even say this weekend because Yeah. I think if I could just, like, I don't know, say at any point in your life, I hear you're busy. I think your answer would be yes.
Brimstone:Yeah. You know, but but you make time. You make things work. It's it's yeah. This weekend so I'm doing, a little bit last minute.
Brimstone:I wasn't sure if I was definitely gonna go out, but I'm gonna go out to, I'm going out to Boston after we get off this show. I I head out to Boston, and I'm doing an appearance, for PAX East, which is the huge video game, convention. So, you know, I have, well, the Rosen Locket game, which literally just launched the demo this past week on 15th, and which, by the way, available on Steam free for you guys to check out. And and I'm the final boss in that, you know, in that one. Uh-huh.
Brimstone:So it's wrath. So if you guys check that out, you'll get to play against me and and, try to kill me, but I'm a kill you first. But, anyway, and then and then another, game that I'm doing some voices for, Cristala, is another featured, you know, game that's gonna be over Apaxi. So, I'm gonna be signing mainly in the Cristala booth, and then I'm gonna pop over, see what's going on in the other spot, and, you know, just kinda be there to support. And then I'm heading over to Salem so I can go over to the Salem Halloween Museum, get some pictures of the the whole brimstone exhibit.
Dayna Pereira:Yeah. Yeah. Fun.
Brimstone:So it's a lot. It's a lot. And and, you know, it it could be worse. You know what I mean? I I have no
Dayna Pereira:problem for some reason. You could be sitting on your couch twiddling your thumbs, you know, like, not not able to do anything. It's funny. I have some appearances this weekend too.
Brimstone:You know?
Dayna Pereira:I have to appear at my son's tennis match, and then I have to appear at the vet with all of the puppies. And then I have to do an appearance at my son's baseball game. So nobody's got any autographs, though. So
Brimstone:You could. I mean, I don't see why not.
Dayna Pereira:Could you imagine if I just showed up at my son's baseball game and just, like, put up the table and started handing out pictures?
Brimstone:Throw some 8 by tens out there. What's going on everybody?
Dayna Pereira:Start charging everybody. Yeah.
Brimstone:You know, like, come on, man. You know, like, come check it out. Come holler at your girl, you know.
Dayna Pereira:20 bucks a pop. Somewhere. Gotta start somewhere.
Brimstone:Bucks a pop.
Dayna Pereira:20 bucks a pop.
Brimstone:Whatever you whatever you gots to do, you gots to do.
Dayna Pereira:Mhmm. I'll just make I'll make one. I'll sign 1, and I'll sell it for $10,000. And then I'll I'll tell everyone that I'm Banksy.
Brimstone:Okay. That's is that, like, one of those
Dayna Pereira:one signed autograph from Banksy.
Brimstone:One of those those memes? What do you call it? One of those memes? What is it that, you know, I'm gonna use, like, a picture of something else and tell them it was somebody
Dayna Pereira:Uh-huh. You know? Yeah.
Brimstone:There you go.
Dayna Pereira:Yep. Alright. I love those memes, by the way.
Brimstone:So I'm gonna take I'm gonna take a picture of Dana and and say it was Banksy. I'm
Dayna Pereira:gonna I'm gonna tell him I'm gonna tell my kids that was Banksy.
Brimstone:I don't know who Banksy even is.
Dayna Pereira:Nobody does. That's the point.
Brimstone:Wait. Really?
Dayna Pereira:Yeah. Yeah. He just, like, pops up, throws some art up, and, you know, disappears. Nobody knows who it is.
Brimstone:That's hilarious. Yeah. That's funny. That could be worse. You know?
Brimstone:I mean, people know who you are, but they don't know who you are. That's kinda
Dayna Pereira:scary too. Yeah. You have that anonymity? How nice.
Brimstone:So what do you call it? We are going to talk about, a topic today, guys.
Dayna Pereira:Where people don't have anonymity. Right.
Brimstone:Right. Matter of fact, one of the people just broke their anonymity in a big, big major way. And we I got things to say about all that. Like, I'm I'm in shock and awe. So we did wanna put out it's very, very important, and Dana brought this up.
Brimstone:And I think that that, if you guys have any sensitivities towards certain topics, that that that have anything to do with, you know, talking about children and bad things happening to them and so forth. Yeah. Sexual warning, sexual assaults. This is a trigger warning, right off the bat because there's a lot that we're gonna be discussing in this, and, it has to do with the brand new documentary, Quiet on Set, talking about, you know, Nickelodeon and former stars and, you know, people that were in charge that shouldn't have been, a lot a lot of things. So, I mean, do you wanna take it for a little bit?
Brimstone:Because I I you know?
Dayna Pereira:If there are whenever you think of child stars, you know, Drew Barrymore, Jason Bateman, you know, there there's so many of them, and and it looks like they're living the dream. Right? Mhmm. And although some of them might, if they had the right protections in order, there's so many child stars that came out the other side because and and they're struggling. We see them in the news.
Dayna Pereira:We see Lindsay Lohan. We see Britney Spears. We see Drake Bell, who we'll talk about in this episode at length. We see Amanda Bynes, who we also need to talk about at length. And these kids were kids that grew up in an era, where there weren't a lot of protections in place for them.
Dayna Pereira:Oh, don't forget
Brimstone:Britney Spears came from that time too. You know?
Dayna Pereira:Yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely, she did. And so it's it's really sad to see that these kids that were supposed to be living their dream, they were so excited whenever they got these roles, and it ended up being it took their lives away from them in a sense. Mhmm.
Dayna Pereira:And it's really, really sad. So this documentary in particular is about Nickelodeon And the cast of all that, the Amanda show, Drake and Josh, they there's a a ton of them that were on Nickelodeon. But something that got me so there's one guy who is the producer slash creator of all of these shows, and his name is Dan Schneider. Mhmm. And as it turns out, Dan Schneider is a real piece of shit.
Brimstone:Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you know what's crazy? And and I'm not and, again, you know me. I'm not defending this because I'm you know, I I agree with you a 100%, but it really depends on who you ask.
Brimstone:You know what I'm saying? I actually what you didn't know is I actually met him.
Dayna Pereira:I was gonna say, tell me you have a picture with Dan Schneider.
Brimstone:Do not. I do not have a picture with Dan Schneider. I did meet him. It was at Kamikaze, in LA. They were doing an all that reunion.
Brimstone:Mhmm. What do you call it? You know, I'm friends with Kel. You know, so, you know, I, you know, I I believe Kel, I believe introduced me to him or introduced me to whoever there. And again, at that time, it was before all this came out even though it had happened.
Brimstone:You know what I'm saying? Yeah. We didn't necessarily know about it because people were keeping tight lipped and, you know, and then that me too movement came about and, you know, other things happened. And now people are speaking a little more forwardly about, you know, what had happened to them in their past. Mhmm.
Brimstone:There are a lot of people that still support this guy. I you know, as seen in his response video, what do you call it? So one of the guys, who was on iCarly. I can't remember the name of the guy, but he wound up doing, Boogie, I believe is is his name. Yeah.
Brimstone:And he what do you call it? He did an after documentary interview with Dan, and and and it seemed like he was, like, oh, you know, and and, like, kinda cool with his responses. Again, we didn't even talk about everything yet, and I'm already going
Dayna Pereira:to that. Yeah. Let's let's talk a little bit about some of the things that Dan Schneider did because, I mean, if you watch this documentary, and I highly recommend that you all go and check out Quiet on set. It will blow your mind, especially if you're, like, our age ish, where you grew up with some of that. Maybe you're a little bit older than it.
Dayna Pereira:Maybe you're a little bit younger, but everybody knows that all that was on TV. Everybody knows about iCarly. Everybody knows about, Amanda Bynes and, you know, all of that. What they might not know is or or no. They do know.
Dayna Pereira:If you watch the show Mhmm. There was a lot of adult humor on those shows.
Brimstone:More so more so than the cartoons, you know, of that time and still moving forward where there's there's always a little adult humor sprinkled in, and you won't, you know, only the the only the adults would realize it. You know what I mean? And not saying that that's right either, but, you know, at the end of the day, I get
Dayna Pereira:that. You know what I mean? Is okay, but not when you're sexualizing children.
Brimstone:Agreed. There were there were moments where, you know, just to give a general theme of things. 1, hyper focusing on the children's feet.
Dayna Pereira:Oh my god. So many toes and mouths. There was feet rubbing.
Brimstone:Pickle, pickle man. What do you call it? A pickle boy. Boy, which we're gonna have a whole conversation about him. Uh-huh.
Brimstone:But then there was a nose boy or something like that.
Dayna Pereira:And on his had dicks on him. Right. He had penis. Yeah. Sneezed, and, basically, it was a come shot to the woman's face.
Brimstone:Right. It just like how. You know what I mean? How are you doing this?
Dayna Pereira:How does this stuff make it to TV? Ariana Grande was another one on there where she's, like, oh my gosh. Oh, I'm so thirsty. Just dumping water on herself
Brimstone:Upside down in a bed.
Dayna Pereira:Upside down in a bed.
Brimstone:Taking a a potato. Give me the juice. Give me the juice. It's like, how
Dayna Pereira:are you shaking it? I'm seriously it.
Brimstone:Oh, oh, you know, like, oh, I I can't.
Dayna Pereira:And somebody here's the thing. And these kids, whether they felt comfortable, whether they knew what it was about, what or what it symbolized or not, all of these kids were afraid to lose their jobs. I know. They were trusting these adults that were on set with them to, like, if if they were to say, I don't feel comfortable sticking my toes in my mouth
Brimstone:Mhmm.
Dayna Pereira:And they would find another kid that did feel comfortable.
Brimstone:Right. Right. Right. Yeah. I another one of the things just before we get off that topic, on Zoe 101 with Jamie Lynn, where what do you call it?
Brimstone:They had a little thing. It was like a thing of candy, and the girl couldn't get the candy open. And she was trying and trying, and then all of a sudden, it, like, spewed in her face. Mhmm. You know what I mean?
Brimstone:Like and it's, like, dripping, like, jizz off her face. I mean
Dayna Pereira:That's not the only one.
Brimstone:Disgusting, you know, on a on a child. On a child.
Dayna Pereira:Yeah. Nobody tuned in to Pornhub for this. This was on a child, on a little girl's face. Right. Then I mean, what about, Miranda Cosgrove of iCarly?
Dayna Pereira:She's, like, on her knees while water fountain is, like, spewing into her mouth. There's another one with Victoria Justice and somebody else with a shake weight shaking them.
Brimstone:Right. Shaking weights. Yeah.
Dayna Pereira:It's so concerning. And and the thing is, if we think back to that time
Brimstone:Right.
Dayna Pereira:Anytime somebody said anything, if somebody was like, oh, that doesn't feel right, you were accused of having no humor. Oh, it's just a joke. Like, shut your mouth. You're no fun. Like, you don't know how to take a joke.
Dayna Pereira:That was kind of the mentality back then. Mhmm. And I remember being in several positions where I felt uncomfortable but was so afraid to be told that I can't take a joke or I'm no fun or we don't want you around or and I'm not the only woman or man out there that experienced this, that felt uncomfortable.
Brimstone:And let me let me say something that if you of all people were were feeling uncomfortable in any matter, things must have been really bad. Because you are a very, you know, open person and you really, you know so for you to say that you were, you know, feeling concerned about saying things and so forth in your past, that's alarming. That's alarming. You know, they're getting on to some of the stuff that Dan Snyder Schneider did. I mean, one, he allowed all this to happen.
Brimstone:It came from him as the head lead writer in the writers room. The women that were in the writers room then there were only 2. What do you call it? They were made to split a salary. Now, I've been told that, you know, other people have done it before.
Brimstone:Is it common? No. And I don't believe that it is legal, Ivan.
Dayna Pereira:Not legal.
Brimstone:I don't believe it is. And, what do you call it? He gave
Dayna Pereira:Especially when the men weren't forced to share salary.
Brimstone:Agreed. Now his excuse for that were was that they were brand new writers, but I do believe that other people were new writers as well Yep. And they gave them full salary. So, you know, I you know, he he obviously, you know, thought he was gonna get one over on the girls. The the thing that really killed me on the the women's one, the the writers thing was when he had the 1 woman bent over in in the writer's room, you know, like, having to scream as though she was being anally penetrated.
Brimstone:Was that what it was?
Dayna Pereira:I'm not sure if it was anally penetrated, but what he did was she was telling a story about high school. And he, jokingly, in quotes, said to her, oh, you know what you should do now? You should bend over the table and act like somebody's, you know, getting you, like like, having sex with you. I don't know if it was Analie. I don't know if it was Vaginalie.
Dayna Pereira:He wanted her to pretend like she was being, fucked, I guess, over a table and tell that story again. And she was like, I
Brimstone:don't know why this is
Dayna Pereira:And then he was like, no. Really do it. No. Really do it. And and she did because she fell and you could see on the documentary that she felt so uncomfortable even talking about it.
Brimstone:And none of the men in the room even did anything,
Dayna Pereira:which Nobody did. Because you don't question that man.
Brimstone:Fuck that. I'd I would slap the taste out of his goddamn mouth if I was in there. You know, there are certain things that I'm like, alright. You know, maybe I would let this pass. Maybe I wouldn't.
Brimstone:But, like, 9 out of 10 or 9 and a half out of 10 things in this documentary, I was like, no fucking way. Like, no way. You know, like, there's stuff you just don't say, you don't do. You know, like, you know, and and again, you know, like, I'm not prudent anyway or by any means, but there's certain things that you just don't do in the workplace. You know what I mean?
Brimstone:Like, even even as close as you and I are or on Grindhouse as close as Kim and I I I are. You know, in a 1000000 years, I wouldn't like, we might joke around and talk, you know, stuff, but I would never take something and, you know, inappropriately, like, squirt something in your face or or, you know, tell you, you know, reenact this or, like, especially things that would hurt you or upset you. Yeah. Know what I mean? I mean, given you both neither of you are underage either.
Brimstone:But I mean, at the end of the day, you know, I'm talking about the adults anyhow in the writer's room. You know, like, I would never want you either of you to ever feel uncomfortable like that. You know?
Dayna Pereira:Well, it's it's interesting whenever. Why wouldn't he? Yeah. It's interesting when somebody has a place of power. I just remembered that not too long ago.
Dayna Pereira:And it wasn't even a man. It was a woman who had said to me, like, oh, you should I told this guy that you're you're dirty. Like, you should go and and fuck with him and say a bunch of dirty stuff to him. Like, be nasty. Be raunchy.
Dayna Pereira:And I was like so this guy walked did it to me. Yeah. Did it to me. This was a year ago. So this guy walks in, and he, like she's like, this is her.
Dayna Pereira:This is the girl that I was telling you about. She's the raunchy one. You can be fucking raunchy with her. And I was, like, so uncomfortable because she expected me. Now I I joke around all the time, and I can be raunchy, but I get to do that at my own will.
Dayna Pereira:I don't Right. Get commanded by somebody to be raunchy with somebody or to tell raunchy jokes or different and I was like, I had to, like, scale it back and disappear. Like, I wanted to disappear into the walls whenever this happened.
Brimstone:How did I not know about this?
Dayna Pereira:I didn't really talk about it, and it wasn't somebody that was employing me. So it was just a a person who perceived themselves above me. But this man who was employing people would make women come to him from the wardrobe department and massage him.
Brimstone:Oh, yeah. Yeah. I was getting to that one. Yep.
Dayna Pereira:No. And if you did like, there was women that were like, oh my god. I'm so busy. I have to work on this show, and I have to work on this, and I have to take time out of my day to go give gross ass Dan Schneider Mhmm. A massage?
Dayna Pereira:Yeah. So degrading masseuse if that's what you want.
Brimstone:You don't freaking degrading.
Dayna Pereira:Make a woman who is supposed to dress your cast give you a massage, not in the job description.
Brimstone:He was having some of the girls on the show Uh-huh. Give him back massages. I'm pretty sure I saw, Amanda Bynes, you know, shots of her, giving him back rubs, maybe Ariana, maybe couple other people, you know, like, that's some wild shit right there. That you that's just off. And I listen.
Brimstone:You don't have
Dayna Pereira:a little girl touch you like that.
Brimstone:I'm gonna I'm gonna say this and and take it from where it's coming from. When you're on set, especially set that you're gonna be on for either, you know, days, months, year, annually, whatever it is, You get very you become a little tight on the set. You know, you know, people get a little loose. Yeah. A very family, you know, environment.
Brimstone:You know, so sometimes things come out or said that, you know, maybe it's a little inappropriate. Sometimes you let them pass. Totally. But there is never a time where you have a young lady who's one of your, stars for your shows put their hands on you in any way, shape, or form. Now, again, that happening now, people would be on it in a heartbeat.
Brimstone:Mhmm. Then it wasn't like that. You know? Like and that's why so many people got away with the things they did. They employed not 1, not 2, but 3 that they mentioned on the show, on the documentary that, you know, literally fondled and raped children from the show.
Brimstone:If so I I mean, do you wanna jump on to that now? Or are you still going on about Dan himself?
Dayna Pereira:Well, I mean, the one thing that I would like to say about Dan quickly, and then we will move on, is these kids that he, like, said and and and let's talk about the toxic work environment that he put these people into. He was he was a man that had to he was Jekyll and Hyde. Right? He was nice sometimes. He was a monster sometimes.
Brimstone:Oh, yeah.
Dayna Pereira:But his relationship specifically with Amanda Bynes is so concerning to me because nothing came out about whether or not it was inappropriate. But I do sometimes feel like maybe the proof is in the pudding. This poor girl grew up, and her life, like, shriveled. It completely unraveled. Now I cannot say whether or not he played a role in anything inappropriate with her, but I can say with some confidence that her level of child stardom probably and and then having to transition into adulthood probably played a pretty significant role there.
Brimstone:Well, one, I do believe she's got, schizophrenia. I believe that she's she is mentally got things going on. And I believe that, a good portion of her issues came from I I think she was having family issues. She was trying to make
Dayna Pereira:From her parents.
Brimstone:Yeah. Parents. And I also believe that she is under the same thing Britney had,
Dayna Pereira:a conservative She was under
Brimstone:a conservative office
Dayna Pereira:for a while. She isn't anymore, but she's still not doing great, and it's really, really sad to see.
Brimstone:She she was always an adorable little girl. She was so bright and fun and funny. Very talented. I I loved I loved Amanda Bynes as a as a, an entertainer, you know, watching with the kids. You know what I mean?
Brimstone:For so many years, I used to, oh, it's the Amanda show. Yay. You know what I mean? Like Yep. Always always really cool, always
Dayna Pereira:fun and She was so good.
Brimstone:When she went on and then she did, oh my god. I can't believe the the I just lost the the name. It's easy a. Right? Easy a?
Brimstone:No. She was she was in easy a with, what's her face? The redhead, who just did, what do you call it? Super Jumping. What is it called?
Brimstone:Furious Jumping? What's an I can't remember.
Dayna Pereira:Furious Jumping?
Brimstone:Yes. Furious jumping. That's what you you didn't watch that that movie yet. Oh my god. It's crazy.
Brimstone:What do you call it? I can't believe I just blanked on it.
Dayna Pereira:Was it Aubrey Plaza, e z a?
Brimstone:No. No. No. No. No.
Brimstone:No. No. Or I think she might have been in that too. But what's her name? Emma Stone.
Dayna Pereira:Am I thinking of a different?
Brimstone:Emma Stone. Might be thinking
Dayna Pereira:of a different movie.
Brimstone:Yeah. That's the one where she has, like, the Scarlet Letter. You know, they she does that whole thing. What do you call it? Right?
Dayna Pereira:I'm pretty sure that's the one. See that movie. I do not remember Amanda Bynes in it.
Brimstone:She was okay. So during the whole thing, she was always doing, she was saying that she was doing things with people for
Dayna Pereira:Oh, but she really wasn't.
Brimstone:Cards of money, but she really wasn't. And then the the Amanda's Amanda was in it. She was the holier than thou, Christian girl in it. And, what do you call it? And and she played like a a psycho in that.
Brimstone:But she was amazing. She was great in that.
Dayna Pereira:She's a great actress.
Brimstone:And then and then I've seen I I I'm I'm gonna be honest. And again, take it where it's coming from. I wasn't body shaming. I'm not shaming at all. I'm not putting down.
Brimstone:I saw some pictures of her, and I guess I hadn't seen any of this stuff with the hoopla or photo. I was like, who is that? And I was told that's Amanda Bynes. I'm like, that's not Amanda Bynes. You know, like, Amanda Bynes is, you know, a pretty young lady.
Brimstone:You know, like, the the and she well, she's, like, 30 something now. You know what I mean? Like, I said, there's no way that's Amanda Bynes, and it's, like, no. That's Amanda Bynes. And then I looked it up, and I go, oh my god.
Brimstone:It is Amanda. Holy crap. You know? Yeah. Like, I the world has done some nasty things to this poor kid.
Dayna Pereira:The change is significant, and it is really, really, really tough to see. And, unfortunately, she's not, like, the only kid that came out of Nickelodeon that had a hard time, and definitely one of those reasons is production assistant, Jason Handy, who, unfortunately, was fucking Handy with some children.
Brimstone:And wasn't it wasn't it, the Handy didn't they wasn't Jack Handy one of the the things in one of the shows?
Dayna Pereira:I don't remember. Was it?
Brimstone:I think so. Wasn't it? Like,
Dayna Pereira:I don't remember.
Brimstone:Like like, what do you call it? Like, messages from John, something handy or something like I could be wrong.
Dayna Pereira:Maybe. Like
Brimstone:anyways, it was it was it was not good. This handy dude, was like of 3
Dayna Pereira:one of 3 that they arrested for, you know, being a child molester at Nickelodeon.
Brimstone:Photos to a 13 year old girl.
Dayna Pereira:I think she was 11 at the time.
Brimstone:Is she 11?
Dayna Pereira:Yeah. And he said
Brimstone:An 11 year old girl. That doesn't make it any better.
Dayna Pereira:It makes it yeah. I mean, it's all bad. 11/13 doesn't matter. It's fucking terrible. Wow.
Dayna Pereira:He was at her house giving her kisses and telling her not to tell her mom that they were kissing because she got upset whenever he tried to stick his tongue in her mouth.
Brimstone:Awful. How do you do that? I I don't know.
Dayna Pereira:Well, what's worse is so he does he sends nude pictures of himself masturbating to this 11 year old girl via email. And this was back when people, I guess, didn't realize that you would get busted for doing something like that. Like
Brimstone:Yeah.
Dayna Pereira:So he does that. They go to his house, and this the mom the this breaks my heart. The mom didn't wanna be the person that said anything. So she didn't. She didn't call the cops.
Brimstone:She
Dayna Pereira:didn't tell anybody. The FBI or whoever it was investigating had to call her and say, your daughter is not the only one. It happened to other kids. We're investigating it. Now we need your story.
Brimstone:Can you imagine if somebody tried coming near my kid? Do you know what I would do to them? If I if they if I even had a slightest inkling that something was was going on, I would break people in 2. I don't understand even at that time why anybody would stay quiet. You know what I mean?
Brimstone:I get it. I get it that you don't want it to to lose. And I blame certain parents on some of this too, and I know they probably kick themselves in the ass every day about it. But you know what? You you have to say something or nothing's gonna happen.
Brimstone:I don't care if you're scared. You need to say something.
Dayna Pereira:Yeah.
Brimstone:You know what I mean? And, again, I'm not trying to victim shame. You know this. I'm saying in general, like, how do you not your child is obviously in danger. Why would you not say something about it?
Dayna Pereira:Solution was to just keep her kid away from that guy. And what's unfortunate is
Brimstone:And what about everybody else's kids?
Dayna Pereira:Exactly. That's that's my point. What's unfortunate is she didn't think past her own kid, and that opened the door for him to victimize other children.
Brimstone:Yeah. That is just disgusting. And, I mean, you know, it goes he got arrested. You know what I mean? He got locked up.
Brimstone:They found out how long he got
Dayna Pereira:1,000 images of child pornography in his home. Over 10,000 images. And this man was working on a Nickelodeon set with children on a daily basis.
Brimstone:Do you blame Nickelodeon for this, or do you blame
Dayna Pereira:I think Nickelodeon overlooked a lot of things. I think that Nickelodeon and the peep because they had to do their due diligence. The 3rd guy that they busted, they didn't really go into a lot of his, story.
Brimstone:Right.
Dayna Pereira:But the 3rd guy that they had busted had already had a record for acts against children.
Brimstone:Right.
Dayna Pereira:And Nickelodeon totally overlooked it.
Brimstone:And they didn't have well, at the time, I don't think that they had things in, like, in play. They didn't have the systems to kinda look things up like they do now.
Dayna Pereira:There is a lot of things that that were that missed. It they got through the cracks. How? I don't know. I also think that Nickelodeon overlooked a lot of things coming when it came to Dan Schneider because he was a hitmaker for them.
Brimstone:Right.
Dayna Pereira:But, yeah, this guy, Jason Handy, production assistant, he's arrested. Mhmm. Now not too long later, another person, Brian Peck
Brimstone:This is the worst.
Dayna Pereira:He is a monster. Yeah. Is also arrested for the same kind of shit.
Brimstone:Now, again, we we mentioned to you guys earlier in the, the show about trigger warnings. If you're gonna you know, if you've listened up to now, you know, none of the things that we said were, you know, even anywhere near in the vicinity of as bad as what we're gonna talk about
Dayna Pereira:right now. Worse.
Brimstone:So this is this is the the worst part of the entire documentary in my personal opinion. So if you have if you have any any issues with this type of conversation, I suggest you turn off the, you know, the show for now. Fast forward hit, whatever you gotta do because we understand. But the fact of the matter is moving forward, I never in a 1000000 years thought that what happened to Drake Bell what happened to Drake Bell. He, after however many years, has finally come out and and spoke his truth in the in the in the fact that he was raped, sodomized, abused in every which way, shape, or form, and and and it it breaks my heart.
Brimstone:I cannot understand how anybody could do that to a child. Nonetheless, you know, how he then had to go out and put on his big a big smile and pretend like nothing was going on. And I I I feel for his father who watched his son like a flipping hawk. And then and he knew something's up with this piece of garbage.
Dayna Pereira:Fucking knew he had a 6th sense.
Brimstone:And that stupid fucking mother, I'm sorry. I she should go fucking straight to hell, right to hell. Do not collect go do not pass go. Do not collect 200. This this woman is a piece of shit.
Brimstone:She didn't wanna be bothered driving to the auditions or whatever. So this the the exact person that the father was protecting his son from, she openly gave him full access and round the clock access to her freaking underage son who was then absolutely treated like a piece of shit. I am you could go into more and elaborate. I just I am beside myself. I don't give a fuck.
Brimstone:I'm sorry. You know, any mother who would not listen to to reason and to put their kid in that I don't care if you didn't know. If the father felt that strongly about it and this is I'm again, I'm in a divorced relationship where I had 2 young kids, and my ex didn't like to listen to me when I said, you know, this is alarming. This is alarming. Do not do this.
Brimstone:Do not, you know And she didn't listen, and I always had my kids, you know, you know, everything, you know, with with my children is is, it was important to me that they were safe. Let's just put it that way. And they were not always safe until I got until I got full custody. And, you know, and the fact of the matter is is so when I see a dimwit who thinks that she knows better you know what I mean? And it could be the father on on other in other situations.
Brimstone:Not a Muslim.
Dayna Pereira:I don't wanna put full blame on the mom. Now do I think that she was, neglectful in I
Brimstone:put half the blame on it.
Dayna Pereira:You can do whatever you want, but I don't, and I'll tell you why. Okay. So she was in a messy divorce with that guy. She already thinks that his judgment is skewed, that he's just saying shit, that he's pissed off because Brian Peck, the man that we're talking about, has been getting into Drake Bell's head saying that his dad shouldn't be his manager anymore. He's driving a wedge between them.
Dayna Pereira:Now the mom is hearing this man, Brian Peck, talk about how his dad is doing a bad job. He got in her head too. Mhmm. She is in a messy divorce with this person. She already thinks that he's a piece of shit.
Dayna Pereira:She doesn't like her ex husband. They're fighting all the time. They're not getting along. She doesn't trust anything that her ex husband says or does because they're in this messy divorce. So when Brian Peck, the man who is looking out supposedly for her son, is feeding both of them this information.
Dayna Pereira:I think they were duped. I think they were tricked. I don't necessarily think that all of the blame goes on to her. I think that she's probably kicking herself in the ass and that she probably feels really, really, really bad for allowing all of this to happen. And should she have been present?
Dayna Pereira:Yes. But she did trust this person. Even though the dad said, don't trust him, she was like, fuck you. I'll trust who I want until he gives me a you know? Like and I'm not saying that's right.
Dayna Pereira:I'm not saying that that is right. But I am saying that if you don't trust the person that is feeding you information, if you don't trust the person that is telling you not to trust somebody else
Brimstone:Mhmm.
Dayna Pereira:That was a judgment call on her. Now think of any time in your life that the person was telling you, you should watch out for that guy, and you didn't trust that person. He'd be like, fuck you. I'll do whatever I want. You wouldn't be listening to them.
Brimstone:I always give the benefit of the doubt, and I will always listen to both sides. Doesn't mean I'm going to desperately go forward with it, but I will also keep my eyes open. You know what I mean? And and what do you call it? Again, where I while I appreciate that, you could visibly tell.
Brimstone:I, as watching him in the public eye back then, could visibly tell things were wrong. I didn't know what it was. He just was not necessarily as where you have Josh who's, like, this happy go lucky thing all the time. Drake was very much not. And all the you know, what do you call it?
Brimstone:He, you could see he was going through something. His public displays of, you know, and and actions showed that something was wrong. You know? Now we, because we didn't know about this, thought, well, you know, his child act and things. No.
Brimstone:You know, he had everything handed to him, and now he's on drugs and blah blah blah. That's the way a lot of people's thought pattern goes. We didn't know that he was sexually abused. Like, not just sexually abused, like, sexually destroyed. It took it took his girlfriend's mother to say, hey.
Brimstone:What's going on? Because that guy was sitting and calling profusely and calling and calling and calling and then called the the girlfriend's house just to touch base with her.
Dayna Pereira:Let's give some context here because not everybody has watched this and not everybody knows what's going on. So Drake Bell Mhmm. After this horrible, awful piece of shit, Brian Peck
Brimstone:Garbage.
Dayna Pereira:Gets into his head. Drake Bell separates from his father, and his father ends up giving custody to the mom. That Drake doesn't wanna be around his dad anymore. He's a 15 year old boy. Him and his dad aren't getting along.
Dayna Pereira:Brian Peck got in his head, said his dad isn't good for him, blah blah blah blah blah. But his dad was the one that was there all the time. So Drake is now with his mom. His mom is busy. They live an hour away.
Dayna Pereira:She has to work. She can't take him to his auditions, blah blah blah. Brian Peck puts his fucking cape on and says, don't worry. I'll do it. And she says, okay.
Dayna Pereira:So Drake Bell is now spending a lot of time with Brian Peck, who at this point has not done anything to him. Were there red flags? Sure. Did he have a pen pal relationship with John Wayne Gacy?
Brimstone:Oh, yeah. I forgot about that. And he was proud of
Dayna Pereira:it. Showing off his letters that he got from a fucking serial killer. Like, what?
Brimstone:Thank you for filling in the blanks. What? I was like, who does that? I mean, I guess people do. I mean, that's people have this fascination with serial killers, but, I mean, like
Dayna Pereira:If somebody a fascination with a serial
Brimstone:killer Nickelodeon.
Dayna Pereira:And he's writing back and forth with a serial killer, I do not want him anywhere me. I don't want him anywhere near my children. I don't want him anywhere near my pets. Like, let's just put them all on a deserted island. If you think John Wayne Gacy is fucking cool, then you have some therapy to attend, my friend.
Dayna Pereira:So Oh, boy. Moving on. So Drake is spending a lot of time with this man who thinks John Wayne Gacy is great. Too much time. He's spending the night at his house.
Dayna Pereira:Mind you, he spent the night at his house, many times before.
Brimstone:Right.
Dayna Pereira:1 night, he wakes up, and Brian Peck is performing sexual acts on him. He is sexually abusing him in his sleep.
Brimstone:Oh my god.
Dayna Pereira:And Drake doesn't know what to do. He's a kid. And he says in the documentary, I didn't what was I supposed to do? Go outside and call my mom and say, okay. Come and get me.
Dayna Pereira:You're an hour away. I'm just gonna sit here on the curb and wait for you. He was a kid, and he also got the apology. Oh my gosh. I don't know what got into me.
Dayna Pereira:I'll never do that again. I'm so sorry.
Brimstone:Okay. Well, they're never gonna do it again because your ass is going to jail. Stay the hell away from me. You know? Mike, I'm sorry.
Brimstone:I you know, like, there was so many so many issues with this. So many issues.
Dayna Pereira:Yeah. And what He has to spend a lot of time with him. Right? He keeps getting sent back. You have to go do your interviews.
Dayna Pereira:You have to go do your, auditions. You he was a a dialogue coach. Oh, let's work together on your dialogue. Let's, you know, I'm an acting coach. I'm a dialogue coach.
Dayna Pereira:Let me help you with that. So this man is trying to spend all of his time with a 15 year old boy. Yeah. And Drake gets a girlfriend, and he wants to spend all of his time with his girlfriend. He doesn't wanna go anywhere near Brian Peck anymore.
Dayna Pereira:He just wants to hang out at his girlfriend's house all the time because that's where he felt safe.
Brimstone:Yeah.
Dayna Pereira:So Brian's trying to take him to Disneyland. Drake doesn't wanna go. He doesn't answer his phone. I don't wanna go. I don't wanna go.
Dayna Pereira:I'm just gonna ignore it. I'm gonna ignore it. So Brian is calling him nonstop. This is a 40 something year old man that is calling a 15 year old boy over and over and over and over. Now this is not his daddy.
Dayna Pereira:Mhmm. This is not somebody that is like, you better fucking answer your phone. You're in trouble. Mhmm. He calls him over and over and over and over and over again.
Dayna Pereira:And when he does not pick up, he calls his girlfriend's house over and over and over and over and over again.
Brimstone:Who does that?
Dayna Pereira:A fucking psychopath.
Brimstone:Like, I I I don't I don't I don't I cannot fathom how continue. Continue. Because I'm just I yeah.
Dayna Pereira:Yeah. No. It's it is
Brimstone:my mind. Yeah.
Dayna Pereira:It is very alarming. And luckily for Drake, his girlfriend's mother saw how uncomfortable he was, saw right through his facade. He was try he was like, oh, yeah. No. Everything's fine.
Dayna Pereira:Everything's and she was like, the hell it is. I'm taking you to a therapist tomorrow. I'm calling your mother. And it wasn't that day. I don't know how long later.
Dayna Pereira:Drake finally loses it and tells his mom everything that happened.
Brimstone:Yeah.
Dayna Pereira:How he has been sexually abused by this monster Mhmm. For of years at this point.
Brimstone:Right.
Dayna Pereira:And they call the cops, and that is how it is found out that Brian Peck has been sexually abusing Drake Bell. Now he's a minor, though, so all of the records are sealed.
Brimstone:Right.
Dayna Pereira:And, so nobody knows that it's Drake Bell that has been a victim of this man. Exactly. They know that he got arrested. They know that that Brian Peck got arrested. They did not know that it was Drake Bell.
Dayna Pereira:Everybody's calling everybody in the cast. Oh my god. Did you hear did you hear that Brian Peck got arrested? Oh my god. I wonder who it was.
Dayna Pereira:I wonder who it was. Right.
Brimstone:Could
Dayna Pereira:you imagine the shame that Drake was sitting with, and he couldn't tell anybody. And that's why it amazes me that the whole world judged this boy turned man. He filed for bankruptcy. He was arrested for DUIs. He just so many things that the world judged without knowing what had happened to him.
Dayna Pereira:The shame, the guilt, the trauma that he had to live through.
Brimstone:What about going
Dayna Pereira:couldn't tell anyone.
Brimstone:What about what about the courtroom when he went into the courtroom, and this guy's entire side was full of huge, huge names
Dayna Pereira:Yeah.
Brimstone:And many who wrote letters for him in in, you know, in defense of this guy asking for leniency. Now this part concerns the crap out of me. Now again, they we don't know what they were all told. You know what it means?
Dayna Pereira:It was it was definitely it wasn't the time of the Internet yet. I mean, there was Internet, but not everybody was on Facebook. There wasn't a whole bunch of information being spread like wildfire.
Brimstone:So there they might have just been told, hey. He was accused of something that you this couldn't be true, blah blah blah. Yada yada yada. And, you know, do
Dayna Pereira:you do you write letters? I know, but I know him. He didn't do that to me, so it must not be true.
Brimstone:My my my big issue is there are a couple of people that were on that list of that they actually showed on the documentary Yeah. That are friends of mine. You know? Yeah. Now I have not confronted them nor do I think I will confront them about it, but that's very concerning and alarming.
Brimstone:You know what I mean?
Dayna Pereira:It is. But again One
Brimstone:of them who I just texted about a month ago. You know what I'm saying? Like Yeah. That's concerning. That's concerning.
Dayna Pereira:I do agree. It is concerning that people automatically jumped to the defense of somebody, that was charged, convicted even. This was Yeah. Letters people wrote for the sentencing, not even for the conviction. Right.
Dayna Pereira:They were asking for leniency.
Brimstone:He was
Dayna Pereira:already convicted of Yeah. Lewd acts on a minor.
Brimstone:I'm just dumbfounded. I'm dumbfounded. This poor kid, man, this poor kid and then he went on to have nothing but issues and issues and issues because what do you do? You know, what do you do? And now back to Dan Snyder, he supposedly says to him, he goes, anything that I can do for you, please.
Brimstone:I'm here for you. Let me know.
Dayna Pereira:Yeah.
Brimstone:You know, well, the first thing you could've done is make sure that this freaking predator was not on the set. That's square 1. 2, you know, like, for some like, I kinda feel that him say because Rick did say that he did, you know, he did come to him like that.
Dayna Pereira:So that was verified. By Dan Schneider.
Brimstone:But in Dan's whole reaction to this entire, you know, documentary, he gave, the he kinda went on the the Drake Bell bandwagon on that and was like, well, even Drake said even Drake said that I I was there for him. You know what I mean? Like,
Dayna Pereira:you know, you could do one good act and 50,000,000 bad acts, and he's really riding the coattails of that one good act that he You
Brimstone:agree with me on that. Right?
Dayna Pereira:Yeah.
Brimstone:I mean, his his apology seemed lackluster at best. Yeah. You know, like, he he was go ahead. I I'm sorry. I don't mean interrupt.
Dayna Pereira:No. No. It it just amazed me that the during the whole people writing letters to support Brian Peck, there were several letters where there was victim blaming. There were several letters where they were like, it is hard for us to believe that Brian Peck would do something unless provoked and tempted. Like, Drake Bell, a child, could possibly provoke and tempt.
Dayna Pereira:The only thing that he did was exist. There was no temptation. If there was a temptation, it was just him existing and being a teenage boy.
Brimstone:Right.
Dayna Pereira:And this man got 16 months in prison.
Brimstone:That's unbelievable. It's unbelievable.
Dayna Pereira:He raped a child repeatedly
Brimstone:Countless times.
Dayna Pereira:And got 16 months in prison. I am sickened that that was the reality for Drake Bell. And then Drake Bell had to live with that, that everybody showed up in support of his abuser, said that Drake was the one that tempted him, and then the judge went so easy on him. No wonder Drake Bell has had to endure the life that he was dealt. Like, he had to deal with it whichever way he could.
Dayna Pereira:And did he deal with it the best way? Absolutely not. But holy fuck. This poor man, he's still dealing with it, and he's a grown ass man with a child.
Brimstone:Meanwhile, that the piece of trash, what do you call it, wound up getting a job right out of prison and went and worked for Disney on another kids' show.
Dayna Pereira:Insane. What
Brimstone:does that happen?
Dayna Pereira:The actual happened? Fuck.
Brimstone:I don't understand how that happened. Now Nickelodeon eventually got rid of Dan because of all this and, you know, well, not all this, but I guess continuous, you know, complaints and so forth. But, you know, like
Dayna Pereira:Yeah. During the me too How many investigations what happened.
Brimstone:How many investigations on on the one person can you have? How many investigations on one person? Is it you know, like, until you finally get it. Right? Yep.
Brimstone:It's like one after the next after the next after the next.
Dayna Pereira:On his first show. His first show. He had an investigation opened on him. Now for a grown ass man who is in charge of creatively, making, producing a show, writing a show Mhmm. And he had we didn't even talk about pickle boy.
Dayna Pereira:He had a man with a thing of pickles, and he's putting them through slots on a wall holes. Like a glory hole sticking a pickle. They're on a children's show.
Brimstone:Meanwhile, that's what do you call it? That is the the guy who raped, you know, the
Dayna Pereira:Brian Beck is the one that that was on the show do he was the pickle boy.
Brimstone:Yeah. Then he was pushing he was pushing, he was pushing Drake at some point to push, Dan to allow him to be the father on the Drake and Josh show. He was like Yep. Come on. Speak speak to Dan for me.
Brimstone:Speak to Dan for me. And he's like, no effing way. You know? But, like, yeah. You know, like, pickles on pickles through glory holes.
Brimstone:And then you got, you know, like, these guys what what's his face? Who's the comedian that that was eating the picture?
Dayna Pereira:Ray Romano.
Brimstone:Yeah. Ray Romano sitting in, like, and they sexualized.
Dayna Pereira:2 hands sexualizing that on a children's show.
Brimstone:And how does Roy how does Ray Romano not realize that? Yeah. Know what I mean? Like, I
Dayna Pereira:don't I think that at the time, it was like adult humor was okay. It I it's so bizarre, the things that we thought were okay. I mean, in the seventies, you didn't even have to buckle your kids into a car seat. Right? Like, the things that you think are okay and then you realize are not fucking okay.
Dayna Pereira:They are damaging people.
Brimstone:It is okay.
Dayna Pereira:You don't do this to kids. There was absolutely no protection at all. It is seriously the dark underbelly of child stardom. It was Yeah. You have to trust these people to do the right thing.
Dayna Pereira:And Dan Schneider, in my opinion, never matured past 13.
Brimstone:No. No. I don't think so. And and, you know, even if he didn't have malintent you know what I mean? It doesn't make a difference.
Brimstone:That type of humor was not it was not,
Dayna Pereira:a proof of humor. For? They were kids watching the show. His target audience was 6 to 14. Yeah.
Dayna Pereira:That was his target audience. His target audience was not, you know, 21 year old male. It was 6 to 14. You do not need Jamie Lynn Spears getting a cum shot to the fucking face.
Brimstone:No. Not at all. Not at all. And and look what happened to her after all that stuff. I mean, look at what happened to her.
Brimstone:You know, look what happened to to Britney Spears after after everything she went through as a child star. And Yeah. You know, I mean, like, you know, you wonder look at, what's his face? Corey, Corey Feldman.
Dayna Pereira:Yeah.
Brimstone:You know what I mean? Like and I can't stand Corey, you know, but at the end of the day He
Dayna Pereira:was also a victim of sexual abuse as a child.
Brimstone:I understand. You know what I mean? Where he came from.
Dayna Pereira:Know what
Brimstone:I mean? Think of how how many, you know, took their own lives because of it. This is it's it's it's not cool, and we need to make sure that this never ever happens again. This is this is awful. You know what I mean?
Dayna Pereira:It's awful. Is a disgusting, dirty, little secret of the entertainment industry, and that is it's really fucking sad. It's really sad. I highly recommend again, I know that we've said it before, but if you haven't watched this documentary and you're interested in getting more of the details from it, definitely go. What did we watch it on, Brim?
Dayna Pereira:We watched it on Max. Right?
Brimstone:Max. HBO Max.
Dayna Pereira:Yeah. So go and watch Quiet on set. That's where we got every piece of our information today. I gotta make sure we're quoting our sources before we get in trouble. Yeah.
Brimstone:You know, again, now and mind you, Dan Snyder Snyder has not been convicted of anything. No. He did lose
Dayna Pereira:his position. He did he
Brimstone:did get fired, but then he's also making a resurgence. Maybe this will stop that. But
Dayna Pereira:There, yeah, there is chatter about him really wanting to reappear in that world, and I I struggle with it as a person that, you know, thinks that people can grow and do better. But I don't know. After all of that abuse, I also don't think that he necessarily should be working with children again. I don't I think it's too risky. I think it's too risky.
Brimstone:That's crazy. And, also, apparently, for anybody who ever, you know, kept on the, kept up on the Drake and Josh drama, you know, where, you know, Josh basically was like, no. I don't want anything to do with you. And Yeah. Yeah.
Brimstone:He didn't invite him to his wedding. And, like, there was a bunch of stuff about, you know, between the 2 of them. I don't know if you knew about any of that. But, apparently, Josh reached out to, Drake after seeing this documentary. And, I don't know too much about it because I didn't read the entire article.
Brimstone:However, it it was said that, you know, they did have a private discussion about it, and, you know, they had, you know, he had
Dayna Pereira:I'm sure that there is a lot that are just learning about this. I don't know if you remember on the documentary, there was a a guy. I think he was a another producer on the show, maybe. His name was Virgil Fabian, and he was the one that was kind of, like, always there for the kids. He was the one that was always going to bat for them, trying to make them feel comfortable.
Dayna Pereira:He did eventually get fired by Dan Schneider. He's on there. And whenever they're talking about Brian Peck, they say to him, like, oh, that he, you know, was, arrested for molesting a child. And he said, well, not a child on our show. And they were like, yeah.
Brimstone:He didn't even know.
Dayna Pereira:He had no idea.
Brimstone:No idea.
Dayna Pereira:And he was there every day with Drake Bell.
Brimstone:Yeah.
Dayna Pereira:And he had no idea 20 years later
Brimstone:that Can you imagine?
Dayna Pereira:That that had happened to one of the kids on his set.
Brimstone:Unbelievable. And that was the director, I believe.
Dayna Pereira:The director. Yeah.
Brimstone:The director. Wow. Yeah. I just I can't fathom. You know, listen.
Brimstone:I I everybody, you know, we all take these things differently. I I, you know, I, I am just you know, when I can't speak and I can't verbalize, it's obviously very disturbing for me.
Dayna Pereira:It is. It's disturbing.
Brimstone:You know, being being a former child actor, you know, I feel like I dodged a bullet because, you know, my mother wanted to continue to pursue and have me do other things. And then Yeah. You know, my mother and my father just, you know, couldn't agree on time and so forth. So I wound up pulling me out, you know, when when I had been getting started. That that could have been a good thing because, you know, I mean, the trajectory was 4.
Dayna Pereira:Thing that ever happened. Imagine you were one of those hundreds of children in the auditioning room for all that, and you didn't get picked, and it was the worst day of your life at the moment. You were so sad. You were crying. You didn't get the role.
Dayna Pereira:You wanted it so bad. You wanted it so bad.
Brimstone:Yeah.
Dayna Pereira:And years later, you find out that that was the biggest blessing in your life. Thank God you didn't get that role.
Brimstone:Yeah. It's true. It's crazy. It's crazy. Anyway, guys, definitely check out this documentary.
Brimstone:You know, it is very, very eye opening. There is there are very few people that are out there that that don't at least know either one of those shows or one of the people from one of those shows. Mhmm. Very, very widespread, very, very big names that came out of these shows. And and the the the spider web of of names that are attached in people is just mind blowing and mind boggling.
Brimstone:And, you know, I hated the fact that I saw friends of mine on this documentary. You know?
Dayna Pereira:They weren't happen when you know
Brimstone:Weren't necessarily portray yeah. Some of them were not portrayed in any way and some were. So
Dayna Pereira:Yeah. Well and and we just scratched the surface of this. There's so many more details in the documentary. I mean, things that happened with Jeanette McCurdy and just so many more things that we haven't even really gone into, and we won't because you should go watch it on the documentary.
Brimstone:Yeah. Yeah. One of the things that that he said, and and I'm gonna leave this. Every one of those jokes was written for a kid audience because kids thought they were funny and only funny. Now we have some adults looking back at them 20 years later through their lens, and they're looking at them and they're saying, I don't think that's inappropriate for I don't think that's appropriate for a kids show, and I have and I have no problem with that.
Brimstone:Let's cut those jokes out of the show. I, you know, like
Dayna Pereira:Dude, what a piss poor attempt at covering your ass.
Brimstone:Yeah. I don't I just I yeah. He said that he he had come he he refuted the idea that he had complete control over the content that made it to the show, saying there were many levels of scrutiny, but he got executives from the company, crew members, parents, and other adults on set could have raised objections. What do you call it?
Dayna Pereira:No. They couldn't have because you were the man with the power.
Brimstone:Yeah. I just I can't.
Dayna Pereira:Let let a parent raise an objection and then see how often their kids on camera after that.
Brimstone:Well, some of them got cut off. You know? What do you call? There were a couple of people. Again, you guys gotta watch the documentary.
Brimstone:Yeah.
Dayna Pereira:What do
Brimstone:you call it? Anyway, I think that's I think we're gonna wrap it at that. Dana, you did an amazing job, laying it out because you know me. I dispute
Dayna Pereira:You made me do my homework, and I did it. Yeah.
Brimstone:I just I'm sorry that I dispute. I just was, like, I was so amped to get it out. I know. Be so angry about it and wanted to talk about it, and I'm glad that you're the level head on this. Anyway, guys, we appreciate you.
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Brimstone:We appreciate it greatly. So, guys, again, thank you so much for tuning in. What do you call it? Dani, you wanna let everybody know the one rule of the dirty little secrets club?
Dayna Pereira:Yes, guys. The first rule of the dirty little secrets club is to tell everybody about the dirty little secrets club.
Brimstone:Thank you again. As always, we appreciate. We love you. We'll see you again, god willing, next week. You think we want something from you?
Brimstone:You got another thing coming.