THE PODCAST ON HAUNTED HILL EPISODE 187 - CITY OF THE LIVING DEAD (1980) and THE HOUSE BY THE CEMETERY (1981)

Episode 187 of THE PODCAST ON HAUNTED HILL is here, and it’s a LUCIO FULCI special!! As well as delving into the life and career of this HORROR ICON, we’ll be reviewing 2 of his works; CITY OF THE LIVING DEAD (1980) and THE HOUSE BY THE CEMETERY (1981)!! We’ve got a great story for our WORLD OF THE STRANGE segment, and loads of the usual silliness throughout! So tune in, download, listen, like, comment, and share!! MAGGOT STORM!!!!

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Hello and welcome to the Podcast on Haunted Hill, episode 187 on an undercover cop.

My name is Gav.

187 on an undercover cop. My name is Dan and I'm here to rock.

And 187 is the penal code in America for murder, death, kill.

Just thought we'd say that.

It was played lots and used lots in Hibbity Hop in the 90s.

Yeah, gangster rat.

So Dan and I couldn't resist the number declaring.

I don't know what I'm saying.

Anyway, welcome everybody.

Welcome back.

If you've listened to us before.

If you've never heard us before, then welcome friends.

And if you just like to potter about now and again,

come around the side.

Come around the side.

It's a better place to slip in.

We've almost got that down after about a year of coming up with that catchphrase.

My brain goes to it straight away.

Then I go, then I sort of just like, it's like, it's like when I play Super Mario Kart

and I see the banana skin.

I do it.

It's because I have this thing where I like to just fuck myself up.

I've done it all through my life.

Gav, here's this person.

If you talk to them correctly,

they will give you millions of pounds.

Not that I've ever met that person.

I would just fuck up the first thing I said.

Anyway, Mario Kart, I see the banana skin,

and I go, don't go to the banana skin.

And then last second, I have this thing where I go,

and I go towards it on purpose.

It's really weird.

So I try to say it, but then it fucked up.

Anyway.

Well, there we go.

This isn't about the psychology of Gav, is it?

It's not the psychology of Mario Kart either.

This is about the psychology of Lucio Fulci.

that's correct so this is easy for gav to remember 187 as he said i didn't have to remind him on this

one uh we're getting close to that 200 mark it's exciting oh yeah we are don't you think we are

yeah and yes it is our final director special of 2025 lucio falci the maggot master oh my god

that scene with the maggots are just flying in their faces that must have been quite traumatic

yeah so he is known i mean i'll get into it when we get we'll obviously do a bit of a backstory on

how he got into his career and his sort of back catalogue of work and he's got a lot so we won't

go into great detail in it but yeah lucifer he's kind of like a sideways removed um almost lower

budget dario argento he's kind of there along the side doing similar work but a bit more batshit crazy

in some ways it's it's like like uh is dario available today to direct no right grab lucio

it's like is goblin available to do the score no right grab fritzy yeah but i'm happy for it yeah

yeah yeah yeah fine it's not i'm not practical effects anyway his work includes great practical

effects and great atmosphere and doesn't always make sense and i love that and that's kind of the

reason i love um argento but we will get into more detail about lucio forci as you know by clicking

on this episode you know that we are covering two of his um what's the trilogy called uh the gates

of hell trilogy uh we will be covering city of the living dead from 1980 um we'll also be covering

um the house by the cemetery one of the best film horror film names of all time uh in my opinion

house by the cemetery from 1981 yes um the other movie in that trilogy is the beyond we may come

back and do that at some point because that's a great movie as well the the name the house by

and the front cover puts in your mind a lot greater movie not spoiling my review there but

there's a bit of a tip towards it it looks like it's going to be a slasher but um we're getting

it's back it's back to italian craziness so yeah that's what we're covering we've got a really

great um story for world of the strange um so bill murray's excited about that um he's here early

actually in the kitchen making me a lasagna which i'm really excited for um i don't know what all the

hopes are that he's putting in it i may be quite sleepy by the end of this episode we'll see how

that goes is he trying to cosby you sometimes i get a bit adam sandler when i do bill cosby

um yeah so that's what we've got coming up you know it's gonna be a fun episode it's gonna be a

lot of maggots i've got to apologize to the listeners uh i have a cold it's that time of year

and we were programmed to record and it's not that bad you know I can record but occasionally

I'm going to be coughing at the side or try my best and not do it so much and why don't you edit

it out well I might do if it gets bad but you know and I equally have a froggy throat so I do my best

but hey fuck it we're here and we're here to to party we're here to get all thought sheet up and

maggoted and before we get into what we've been watching and all that kind of stuff it's been a

weird time the epstein files are about to be fully released we've heard some rumors about trump and

bill clinton which i won't get into right here but i did fill you in on that off air gav we don't do

politics we just do horror we've got a second moon at the moment um it's only gonna last for 57 days

so that's weird

and this 3i atlas

is still plummeting its way

through the solar system

and on top of all of that

there's a new Anaconda film

with Jack Black and Paul Rudd

which I'm very confused about

I haven't seen it

but I'm very confused

that this has been made

so it's a weird time

I quite like the idea

I like the fact that they're like

well we don't want to remake Anaconda

but we could actually make a movie

about some people remaking Anaconda

oh yeah

okay

well look I'm a big Paul Rudd fan

isn't i think i think it's finding hopefully it's the sort of humor we need at the moment we just

need some silliness you know i think my little boy's got a bit of a man crush on poor red actually

we're working away for all of the marvel films not jack black he might do um we are working away

for all of them and he's loving ant man we're on ant man at the moment and he's like he's very

pretty daddy and i'm like yes he is very pretty isn't he because i agree you know poor red is

beautiful um but he loves it he loves that man so that's that's fun but gav enough about my son and

anything else what have you been watching what haven't you been watching what films are you

talking about well let's talk about let's talk about films and stuff and i what i haven't watched

is the new running man film of edgar wright's it's time i want to talk about it quickly because um

and not getting into also the politics of cinema but i thought it was interesting to talk about

very quickly.

Like,

the movie's kind of,

like,

obviously we go by weekends

and obviously,

like,

rentals and buying movies

will carry on going

and it'll always be

bringing in money.

Most films are,

essentially,

in some way,

to someone,

possibly not the filmmakers,

but there's someone.

But,

it's,

on the weekend taken,

it's done very,

very,

very,

very,

very badly.

Yeah,

it's strange.

It's taken about one-fifth

of its budget.

It's getting very good reviews.

But,

if you looked on IMDb,

It's only got like 11,000 reviews, which is weird,

because a movie on that scale should have on it 150,000 sort of reviews.

Now, the problem with it, I think, one of the problems anyway,

I noticed it on a bus driving past me,

and I said to my wife,

why doesn't it say Stephen King anywhere on there?

And I know, obviously, he wrote it as Richard Backman,

but I feel like if they'd put Stephen King's The Running Man...

It might have helped.

I think also, I have no idea who that bloke is,

and he doesn't come across as anything special.

Arnie, I know it's a different type of film,

but Arnie was almost made the movie,

and the other thing it put me off wanting to go watch it,

it's over 30 days.

It's like, okay.

Yeah, and that's what the book was.

I need 48 hours or something.

Yeah, but it doesn't work.

That's why it's adapted, surely.

But the book was great.

The book might work better as a short Netflix show, perhaps,

but obviously I haven't seen it either.

I really like the guy, Glenn, whatever his name is.

I like him.

I've seen him in quite a few things,

and he's pretty decent.

actions like when he does like yellow budget acts and stuff he looks really forgetful though

the thing about it they're really trying to sell it with edgar wright's name for anyone that doesn't

know this is an edgar wright film and on the bus it's all it said was the running man um written by

adapted for the screen by edgar wright directed by edgar wright and something else by edgar wright

and i was like why have you got his name on there three times but you haven't got like stephen king

or anything like that i don't know i don't think it's been marketed very well either apparently

looking at reviews of it,

it hasn't got any of Edgar Wright's signature editing,

cuts, beats, drops, that sort of stuff.

It's not like that at all, like his normal movies.

So it looks like it's probably got producer fingerprints all over it.

Because even Baby Driver,

which is probably the most far removed Edgar Wright film I've seen,

is still an Edgar Wright film.

Yeah.

It's fantastically edited together.

I actually watched it last night,

but I know I actually watched it in the cinema,

but I didn't really like it.

I watched it last night and then towards the end,

I got bored.

I actually turned it off before the end of the film

because I was just like, I'm bored now.

I like the beginning.

Some really good cut pieces where he's walking on.

Some great stuff when the music's writing of the song's words

are on the walls.

All that shit's amazing.

And then it just got boring.

It does turn into a very standard action thriller by the end.

But yeah, I mean, I will check it out when it comes to streaming.

I'm a fan of Stephen King and his works and That Running Man.

I'd love to see how they've done it more in line with the book.

and apparently

you know

we have like

Buzzsaw and all these other people

in the first one

they all had characters

the opera singing one

and they all had actual

the kids actually had

a character themselves

just of insurance

stuff like that

in this one

apparently it's just nothing

they're just

they're just people

and it's over 30 days

it's like

what's

yeah

doesn't feel contained enough

you know

it feels too sparse

the problem is

and I'm not one of these people

that says the book

is better than the film

that kind of thing

but the problem is

is that the book

but the film is just

a landmark.

Books have to be adapted

for films at times

because they don't work as books.

I watched it over Halloween

with my Stephen King,

the original,

and it was just,

it's just such a silly

let your hair down,

get a bowl of popcorn movie,

isn't it?

It's insanely good.

And that's the problem though,

is that they've,

how are you going to compete with that?

I don't know.

This new Predator movie though,

talking of Arnie movies

getting remakes or whatever.

It's not a remake, obviously, Predator Badlands, but it's...

That's right.

There's two movies that Arnie is in from the franchise

or a remake or another version.

It's about the same time.

Yeah, that's cool, isn't it?

Well, the only film that I've seen,

because I'm still very, very busy with my new role

and my new job and also my children,

the only film I've seen is Gabby's Dollhouse, the movie,

which I won't bore you with.

What is that?

took the kids to the cinema to watch it uh it's it's a kid's film about a girl whose dollhouse

comes to life Gloria Estefan's in it which was great i was very pleased was it Miami Sound Machine

they weren't but it was great music in it but i expected we were because Gabby's dollhouse is a

tv show and i thought we were going to see one of these let's stitch three episodes together for an

hour so the parents can take their kids to the cinema but this was actually a proper hour and

40 minute produced film but the kids sat through it that was fine they ate the popcorn but anyway

while I was in the queue because we got there a little bit late and I hate that but when you've

got twins you can't always be on time so we got there and Alice was like well the doors are open

it starts in about three minutes can you grab the popcorn for us all I said yeah yeah that's fine

got in the queue there was this couple in front of me with two little boys who were about

probably one was about five and one was about eight and they just turned up at the cinema

what can we watch and the guy's like oh um what are you interested in and I was thinking hurry up

back so I'm gonna get this popcorn and I've got to get to my kids and I don't want to miss the

start of the film or they're gonna be annoyed they haven't got their popcorn and they were there for

about two minutes going well what is there at the sun I don't know there's Gabby's die yeah and then

then the dad said what about this predator film and the guy was like I mean you could do that I

don't really know if that'll be suitable but I've heard really good things about it and he started

trying to sell predator badlands to this mum and dad who had their eight and five year old it's a 12

12a so you can take it i thought what are you talking about you can't take them in anyway it

turns out they ended up sitting in front of us in gabby's doorhouse the movie so that was great

um that was my only film i've seen did you get home and shout at people to get off your lawn as well

no no but i was very annoyed that they took so long they just rocked up and they could see there

was a me and then a queue of people behind they were just taking their sweet ass time

you know what popcorn can we get should we get sweet or salted um could get a mixture do you

want m&ms in it yes can we get em and do you want i don't want m&m study all right one of them does

one of them doesn't i'm just thinking fucking move rant over speaking about films like the other

night i just watched uh the untouchables i just kind of put it on because i was thinking about i

was cold and i remember thinking sean connery going just just move your feet up and down that's

when you're cold and i was like oh i was like i want to watch untouchables again

so um i watched it again and it's two hours long just over two hours and all of a sudden it's like

eight minutes left and i was like what the fuck what the fuck it went by so well and i really

enjoyed it i was doing other stuff i was watching it but i still could watch it

but it just took me back to storytelling

and how much I enjoyed cinema or film movies

and just forget myself from watching the movie

and just really thoroughly enjoying acting, performances, production

and just a really good, tight story that was just so great to watch

and I was like, what movies nowadays do this?

Yeah, exactly.

And I said to you off air, it's one of my, not many people would know this,

it's probably my top ten non-horror films of all time, The Untouchables.

It's almost perfect.

Brian De Palma.

Brian De Palma.

And I watched Carrie over Halloween, obviously.

De Niro's Al Pacino.

Yeah.

I mean, I watched Carrie and forgot what an incredibly directed film that is.

Did I say Al Pacino?

I don't mean Al Pacino, do I?

Al Capone.

Al Capone.

That would be amazing if De Niro was playing it.

They could swap.

Al Pacino

they could do face off

imagine face off

but with Al Pacino

and Robert De Niro

it's probably no one

ever thought of that

but yeah it's got

Kevin Costner in it

and he is phenomenal in it

Sean Connery's accent

whatever

I don't care

he's still Sean Connery

I don't care

Sean Connery

yeah

who's the other guy

Andy Garcia

Billy Drago

takes Sean Connery out

that's right

Andy Garcia

De Niro with a baseball bat

if I remember rightly

being quite nasty

it's a really good film

I recommend watching it

if you've never

never seen it but definitely watch it my favorite moment in it and the score is phenomenal by the

way for everyone who either has never seen it or hasn't seen it for a long time you'll be

mesmerized by that score and the scene in it that i think is a master class in direction

is the scene with the baby pram going down the stairs sliding the tension the action the shots

it's just so good

it's very funny

in one of the

Naked Gun movies

yes

paradise

but it was just

so nice to have

that storyteller

and it just made me go

I don't know what

films do this

for me anymore

I like this

movies like

they're good

good ideas

but not like

so engaging

it's like

I guess

reading a good book

or something

I don't know

probably about 87

I guess

yeah

because it feels like

It's one of those, it feels like Popeye Doyle type 70s movies, doesn't it?

It's almost made a bit like that.

87, I was correct, yeah.

There you go.

But it's interesting that it's almost the 90s

and they still made a film that felt like a really gritty

sort of 60s or 70s thriller.

And it's just such a really good story.

And just, yeah, so many good set pieces, each one.

And it just kept moving along at a rapid fire.

No point was I bored, ever.

Excellent.

Well, the only other thing that I've watched or been watching and still am watching, which I know you are at the moment, I am on a rewatch of Stranger Things.

Oh, I have done the four seasons.

I'm ready for the next one.

I so enjoyed it.

Now, yes.

This is what I wanted to talk about.

Without the hype.

Do you remember when it came out?

Everyone was like, we've got to watch it.

We've got to watch it.

It's everywhere.

And I binged it.

I didn't have kids back then.

So I binged it all.

Binging four seasons together works very well.

Well, I'm not binging it easy because I haven't got the time.

So I'm doing one, maybe two episodes on an evening.

But some evenings, maybe two or three evenings in a row.

I mean, you could binge the four seasons in a course of two weeks or whatever.

Do you know what I mean?

Yeah.

Yeah.

So I'm just coming up to the end of season three.

One thing I've realised is, firstly, I knew this at the time,

but just how many homages and Easter eggs there are in it

from the Duffer brothers to the Terminator,

Alien, Gremlins, Ghostbusters.

I could go on and on, which I won't.

And secondly, it's really, really gory,

particularly when you get to season three

with the sort of the John Carpenter-style thing creatures

and the deaths and stuff like that.

And then, if I remember rightly,

the fourth one goes really horror,

almost a bit Nightmare on Elm Street.

Now, so I'll get to season four

and obviously rediscover it.

The reason me and Gav are doing this,

for anyone who doesn't know, if you're under a rock,

season five starts in a week or two on Netflix.

I imagine a lot of people are doing what we're doing.

People, yeah.

I should imagine their numbers are up through the roof.

It's the most watched TV show on Netflix, I think.

It was How to Make a Murderer.

That was the one for a while, but this is the one, I think.

And people are re-watching it now, like you say.

But yeah, isn't it wonderful?

It holds up well.

The hype, it does deserve the hype, I think.

I don't like the kids.

Good gateway horror.

I don't like the kids growing up.

I liked them in the first season when they're little.

Oh, I know.

When I got to season three, I was like, oh, my God.

They've all grown, like, six inches tall.

And when they're dressed as Ghostbusters, when they go to school,

and it's not actually fancy dressed as school, it's so good.

Yeah, it's great.

I love all the characters.

I'm a big fan of Lucas.

I'm a big fan of Dustin.

But then in later seasons, I love Billy, even though he's, like, a bit of a dick.

Yeah, but Billy, though, like, the casting of Billy,

He is exactly what, if you write down on the script,

classic 80s rocker, kind of like bit of a tough nut,

smokes real pretty, got a good body.

He's perfect.

The casting is so good for that show.

And who's the guy that comes into it in season four

who plays the Metallica song?

Oh, yeah, I can't remember what his name is,

but yeah, it's so good.

I'm looking forward to him.

And they're all black.

Someone in the back is coming towards him.

because i actually think season three so far has been the weakest of the three seasons that i'm on

but i remember rightly season four is a bit better yeah um so i've really got high hopes as i'm sure

you have for season five they are definitely finishing it interestingly i read that they

are only ever meant to make three seasons which is why season three kind of ends it all and then

they netflix approached them with a truckload of money said please will you make another season or

too because there's a lot of money in it for us and for you and they ended up oh go on then so they

had to like write their way out of some of the plots that they'd sort of wrapped up but it's fine

and it's really made a name for people in it like millie bobby brown and some of the other kids that

have been in the ghostbuster movies and stuff so they've they've done well a lot of people have

done well in it and it's great the other thing i love and this is my last thing is not only do they

have all these homages and easter eggs they always bring back a few actors from the 80s um i know

hamilton is in the new the season five you've obviously got like frodo baggins or you know um

sean astin it was in one of the seasons as well you could say you you know all these characters

you see these people even carry yours from um the princess bride i love that they bring in bring

back these even when order rider you could say is a an 80s 90s actress that they brought back so

love it absolutely love it and i'm really enjoying it and what's been nice is when it did come out

i binged it in like one weekend because like i said i had the time no children back then

this has been nice just picking up an episode and then that's it for a day or two maybe i will do

two episodes one night and that's it yeah yeah and you're just plodding your way through it it was

it was like you know um that's why that's why tv shows are seem so uh uh easy to just do that with

but a movie you feel like oh i need to like set myself to three hours i've got to solidly

concentrate on this because all the information is here at this moment or an hour and a half which

is fine um but then sometimes a tv show it's like well i kind of especially if you're re-watching

one for sure i know the characters so i can just kind of drop in and out especially if i've already

seen it before it's not a problem because i did the same thing with um breaking bad exactly the

same and it's fantastic you've still not seen that have you no i haven't it was fantastic to go back

through again but like i said i forced up some of the boring shit his stuff with his wife and

She has an affair.

It's not really much a spoiler

because it's a bit bollocks, really.

It's about boring, boring,

forza.

But strange things, I didn't.

Strange things, I watched the whole thing

because everything's pretty decent in it.

I also, funny enough,

speaking of TV shows,

I binged this week over two nights,

one called Dark Skies,

which just come on Netflix

about Native Americans,

Native American policemen.

And it's got one of the guys

who I think he was a killer in Fargo.

In Fargo season two, I think.

Yes, I think I know.

mean yeah he's the main sheriff in it and it's just about um the feds being there and like some deaths

turn up where some people died i just started watching it i had no idea what it's about because

i quite like uh native americans and as i don't know the whole the whole it's really interesting

culture yeah yeah the whole folklore around there's these big jeeps in the middle of these desert

places there's lots of things could happen it's a different sort of thing from world that i live in

do you know i mean so it's quite interesting anyway so um but a few people end up dying from being

looked like they're scared to death and there's just something going on it's not really a supernatural

thing there's like some criminal element going on but it was just pretty good it had one of the

actually one of the guys one of the bad guys no one of the drug dealer type bad guys from breaking

bad as one of the main guys in it actually so it's decent so it's worth a watch what's that on

netflix only one season about six episodes nice so easy to watch you know even though put it all

together it's way longer than if i'd chosen that three hour movie but still you go i don't know

but you don't you don't feel obligated like you say i know even though my film library's just got

ridiculous lately especially with all the more vhs tapes i've put in speaking of which you've got

vhs video you're gonna put out at some point aren't you yes um so as our patron supporters will know

they really they received seven mini episodes over the course of october uh and we have a video

ones but gav going through a box of vhs tapes a bit like um ethan hawke in sinister although he

doesn't have quite the same cardigan i know uh i wish actually i'd address this ethan hawke that

would have been a lot better next time i might do it but that will be going up probably in the next

week or so for our patreon supporters to watch it's about 20 minutes long and it's just gav delving

into a box of vhs and trying to struggling to read the synopsis on the back of some of them

Did you watch it?

I did, of course, yes.

Was it amusing?

I watched everything you did.

I didn't watch it back.

Oh, thank you.

I didn't watch it back.

Was it amusing?

Yes, it was funny, yeah.

Really good.

I had been checking a cup of tea.

Really good finds in there as well.

Some completely sealed tapes, you know, so it's cool.

It's weird, isn't it?

Yeah.

Yeah, it's cool.

It's cool.

Well, is there anything else you wanted to mention before we delve into the YouTube?

I'm happy to get into City of the Living Dead from 1980.

Yeah.

Well, before we do that then, because this is a director special,

just quickly break down Fulci for everybody out there,

just so you know who he is and some of his work that he's done,

how he got into, obviously, being a maggot maniac.

And this will become a...

If you've never seen a Luchio Fulci movie,

there's a lot of maggots and worms in his movies.

And very quickly, I've said it before, I think,

but I would have done.

Alan Jones, one of the head owners of Frightfest Festival in London every year,

is also actually mainly known as a film reviewer,

and he's interviewed many filmmakers over the years,

all the classics of the 70s and 80s horror movies.

And he met Lucio Fulci one morning,

and Lucio Fulci had been gambling all night, drunk,

and he met him for an interview, and he puked all over him.

Lucio puked?

Yeah, all over Alan.

And Alan didn't like him very much, apparently.

and that's all I'm saying next

that's all I know on it

but I thought I'd just

drop that

because I thought

that's the only thing

I know about him

but what I think

gambling all night

and then just puked

over the interviewer

he's not as well known

as some directors

but you will

you know your listeners

will have definitely

seen some of his stuff

he's in a lot of his movies

he actually stars in

actually one of his

one of his films

yeah

and he's in both of the

films we're covering

in this episode

he's been in some

of the movies done

like New York Ripper

it's just such a

full on film

if you've not seen it.

Yeah.

Well, let's discuss him.

So, Lucio Fortuny was born in 1927.

He did pass away in 1996.

A talent director, screenwriter, and actor,

celebrated for his prolific career across various genres,

became a master of the macabre horror,

and he was sometimes dubbed the godfather of gore.

His work is usually distinguished by...

Or the Spaghetti Splatter King.

Yes, I love that one as well.

The Spaghetti Splatter King.

I just want to make that movie.

His work is, his films are usually,

you can tell if it's him,

because it's usually got like a surreal,

dreamlike atmosphere to it,

and shocking violence,

very gory, usually involving worms,

or animals, or maggots.

Very Argento in that respect.

It doesn't, less about the women,

it doesn't matter who you are in a forkytree movie,

Anyone can get it.

You don't have to be a pretty woman to get a knife through the face.

Anyone can get it.

And they don't always make sense, his films.

But that's kind of the beauty of it, in a way.

Just adds to the weirdness.

So he started his career in the 50s as a screenwriter and assistant director for Italian comedy films.

Actually, he was making a few short films directed in 1948.

Directed short films through them.

But professionally, yeah.

Yeah, professionally Italian comedy films, which is brilliant.

Because there's not really any comedy in his films very often, if there is any at all.

No.

In the 60s, though, he directed several successful comedies.

And then started venturing into other genres.

Including spaghetti westerns.

Porn.

Softcore porn.

and two of his biggest films were Massacre Time from 66

and four of The Apocalypse from 75.

They were Westerns.

I would be interested to see a Lucho Forte Western

because I do like a Western.

He made a spy movie which is called 002.

Agente, Sergei, I don't know what else it says

because I can't speak Italian.

But it's called 002 rather than 007.

Brilliant.

Now, his wife died in 1969

and this is where he shifted his focus.

away from comedy and cowboys he he delved into giallo first of all um giallo and then later

horror so what one on top of the other was his first shallow film i think a lizard and a woman's

skin which you and i have watched together yeah don't torture a duckling which is a very controversial

film about children's deaths um and that sort of cemented his reputation really

for controversy.

The Eroticist.

Brilliant film.

It's like The Exorcist,

but The Eroticist.

As a senator

vying for the Italian presidency

seeks to cure his perchant

for sexual harassment

all while a camel of politicians

linked to the Vatican

to keep the story under wraps.

Doesn't sound as good as the title,

that's for sure.

No, he became internationally known

in 1979

made zombie 2 or as we know it in the uk zombie flesh eaters yeah zombie flesh is great um yeah

and that was the film that really everybody knew of him because of that film then and then in the

80s he decided you know what i'm going to do a trilogy called the gates of hell trilogy which

I mentioned in our intro starting with city of the living dead going moving on to the beyond

and finishing up with house by the cemetery um they aren't kind of they are linked but they're

not linked so it doesn't really matter uh if you if you watch them or not it's a bit like

carpenter's apocalypse um trilogy yeah actually because one of the movies house but uh no the uh

the other one we're doing um is a little bit like um the fog in all that sort of way um we did we

did uh zombie flesh is didn't we we did yes indeed shark versus zombie we did do that i remember it

a very very fun film

now throughout the 80s his health

declined but he did

continue directing horror films

two of his biggest hits in the 80s

and 1990 were

the New York Ripper which he mentioned in 1982

and then one of my

favourites of his from 1990

Cat in the Brain

the title alone is just phenomenal

doesn't he star in it?

not sure if he stars in that one

I can't remember

his films over the years

stars Luccio Fulci.

You think he's the main actor?

So his films over the years

have been victim to

lots of censorship.

They've been banned.

He's...

He plays his character

in

Cat in the Brain.

Otherwise known as

Nightmare Concert.

And he's the main lead.

That's what I remember

when I think of it.

And obviously his name's

Luccio Fulci.

He plays

Dr.

Luccio Fulci.

Brilliant.

Fucking hell.

It's like, come on, put your finger cap on.

Could it be Dr. Buccio Dolce, maybe?

That's like when Jackie Chan first started making English-speaking films.

His character was always called Jackie.

Yeah.

It's just like...

Yeah, so he battled most of his career with censors over the graphic content of his films.

So just quickly then with his style...

He was only 68 when he died.

His style was...

There was a lot of atmosphere.

there's a lot of surrealism

nightmares, visions

that kind of thing

he always has graphic gore

you know what you're getting with a fortune movie

really quite graphic

and obviously when these films were made

this is all in camera

practical effects

most of it holds up very well

I think he obviously

held a particular fascination for eyeball

trauma

which a lot of characters get their eyes ripped out

or something horrible happens to them

That's why I went and watched X, and I was very disappointed by that film,

but then at one point someone looks through a thing,

and I was just like, don't you dare have something come through and stab the eyeball.

Do not, don't you dare do that.

Little child thought she's done this many, many times.

It's nothing new.

And it did it, and I was like, fuck you.

Fuck you for not coming up with anything more interesting.

Gosh.

Other things, other themes in his films are cosmic horror.

he's heavily influenced and he said it himself

by the work of H.P. Lovecraft

so there's always a cosmic

element to, well not always but some of his films

have a cosmic element to them

like this strange evil

the first film we're covering

says writers H.P. Lovecraft

so he's taken this

slightly from something presumably

and much like Argento with

Goblin as you mentioned earlier

his films always contain soundtracks

usually by Fabio Fritzi

very surreal and chilling and they're wonderful soundtracks really great to put on for on halloween

if you're just sitting around the house he also likes to chuck in the odd anti-catholic

theme as well he was raised catholic but a lot of his films contain anti-catholic or anti-religious

themes and imagery don't torture a duckling and city of the living dead there's a lot of talk of

the book of enoch and stuff like that in there so yeah he obviously left a legacy behind um

tarantino said he's one of the best in his opinion um and he he loves most of his films

and you know what tarantino is like you know if he says then it's usually a pretty cool thing

but yeah that's um that's just a little bit of a background on him and then if do you want to

zipped through a couple of his more well-known films for people we've covered a lot of them

yeah i think really um zombie or zombie 2 um the beyond heist by the cemetery city living dead new

york ripper manhattan baby is another one which i like love of his i don't remember that one um

he even did zombie 3 cat in the brain that we said and he did a tv movie called hansel and

Gretel in 1990 his last film came out in 1991 so he did a lot of stuff 61 credits he's got as

director on IMDB yeah that's a fucking good career for a filmmaker yeah um and I'd love to know what

the if there was any kind of relationship between him and Argento really um I bet they were

competitive i don't know yeah i don't know because you see with dario it's a little bit up there more

on artistry uh as a bit more of an eye put to setting up stuff where lucho thought she's a

little bit more grimy get to the point get it fucking done i feel but i agree but that's but

that's not again that's not dissing him that's just the way he makes films that's him as a filmmaker

and the way he is as a filmmaker

makes the way his films have a certain look

as opposed to someone else.

I think you're right.

I think the closest director you could compare him to

is Argento,

but the difference between them is

Argento is an artist that makes films

and I think Fulci was just a filmmaker.

They weren't as high-end art as Argento,

which he used a lot of colours,

still uses a lot of colours

and music and visuals.

Yeah, it's a very stylish thing.

If you think of Italian filmmakers,

if you think of Italians as artists

and quite stylish as a place,

you know, Italy,

you could probably think of Dario.

I'm looking at Manhattan Baby Trade.

I've never seen this, actually.

So, I mean, the last thing I'll say is

I love Italian horror films.

And that is that.

Whether they're cannibals, zombies, slashers,

you know what I need to get into

and I haven't done it

and every once in a while

Sarah and I do it quite often

we sort of get into a

almost a sub-genre of things

and just binge a load of them

but one thing I've not done

it's not horror though really

is the Italian crime films

I've never watched that many of

and they're supposed to be really good

yeah the ones that are almost shallow

but not

I might have to look up

the top 10 Italian crime films

and just watch those

do you know what I mean

yeah you'd have a fun time with those

definitely

alright well

your fault sheet in a nutshell we are about to enter the city of the living dead so we'll go

to a trailer now when we come back 48 hours to shut up the doors shut the gates of hell before

i thought you were going to go down an eddie murphy route then we got 48 hours before nick

nolte and eddie murphy show up i watched a documentary of his and it's very very good

yeah i really want to see that and the john candy one i need to check them both out

alright cool well let's go for a train

and when we come out we'll go to City of the Living Dead

- -

Bob! Bob!

Bob, don't leave me alone!

The city of the dead.

The living dead.

A cursed city

where the gates of Hal have been opened.

You've got to. You must be closed those gates.

We interrupt this program to bring you a special broadcast

Dunwich police authorities have declared a state of emergency.

Effective immediately within Dunwich County.

All citizens are requested to return to their homes as quickly as possible.

In case of necessity, contact this station.

Thank you, D.W.C.

The telephone number is 825-9881.

All citizens are urged to remain calm.

Did you see, when you were in this trance, did you see anything?

besides that tombstone?

Oh, yes.

I saw a priest...

who by hanging himself...

opened the gates of hell.

She's still here.

She's still in the house.

No!

She's in here!

I know she's in the house!

I don't-- I don't want to see her anymore!

Jared, get her out!

Please!

Tell her to go!

She's in here.

Do you hear her?

It works!

- I'm so scared!

Guess what?

It's All Saints Day.

A demanding, implacable enemy whose search for blood is never satiated.

City of the Living Dead from 1980.

Not rated, apparently.

I always thought this was just an 18, but maybe not.

An hour and 33 minutes.

A reporter and a psychic race to a close at the gates of hell

after the suicide of a clergyman caused them to open,

allowing the dead to rise from their graves.

Great, great little, you know, synopsis there.

To the point.

To the point, yeah.

It's like, say, for example, Die Hard Free.

They've got a task to do.

and says and all this stuff they've got a task to be at a certain place at a certain time

go go go and uh in some ways it's quite nice when you have this you don't have at any point here

some talk it's cut to a ticking time clock of how long we've got where you would do some films with

a certain time limit um certain things certain ways that they could do that rather than just

having text on the screen with the numbers counting down but um at one point you do have someone saying

oh we've it's it's past midnight it's pretty much there's not much more of that but that is basically

the the basis of it i love the fact that we're getting i know if we can get into it i love that

christopher george it's just like that's what we're gonna do is it okay let's go have you not got any

more questions do you like hang on i've got i've got my lunch later and i've got teas in the fridge

and he's eating how long is this going to take where are we going we don't know where we're going

are we using satin apps no they don't exist mobile phones don't exist we've just got a map and we're

going to town where we don't know if it exists yeah to close the gates of hell yeah why because

it's the biggest thing really so he's told we need to go find a town that we don't know where it is

to close the gates of hell oh i'm in let's go yeah it's amazing it's it's like okay all right let's do

that then so you just go along as a listener all right let's do that i will just say um that the

relationship between him and mary is very halloween three season of the witch tom atkins

on the road with a girl they're kind of doing that kind of investigative state i completely feel feel

feel you dan i feel you yeah i feel like tom at the tom atkins could have done this as well but um

obviously this is christopher george uh we also get um michelle suave is in this as well a lot of

people would know from Demons,

the guy who had the metal face handing out the flies,

but also he's a director in his own right.

So there's a few faces you'll recognise from Giallo.

I'm a big Christopher George fan.

I like a lot of his films he's done.

I feel like if he had died before Tarantino's era,

I feel like he's the sort of person Tarantino would have put in one of his films.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

I'm a big fan of his movies.

As soon as I knew we were doing this, I was like,

oh, man, that's the one with Christopher George, isn't it?

It was like, yeah, Christopher George.

Yeah, totally.

Okay, well, let's get into it, really,

because it does start, it just gets straight to the title card, really,

of City of the Living Day just appears,

as a lot of these older Italian films do.

Well, it's funny.

I watched these out of order for what they came out with.

I did House first, and one problem I've got with House,

I know I'm not reviewing House at the moment.

We're doing it in a bit.

But one problem I have with it is, like,

it titles it House of House of Corpses,

House by a Cemetery,

and this picture, House of Foggy Cemetery,

and there's not enough, though,

cut to establishing foggy shot house cemetery.

But this, straight away,

it starts with credits panning over a graveyard,

and I was like, this is what the House of Cemetery should have been.

This is more of this film straight away,

and it has loads of shots of a house.

and that finger and i was like this is that what why didn't that movie which came out later

have these shots in it's strange but this is perfect i really love this opening yeah actually

starts with a scream doesn't it over the title card someone's screaming and then you get this

that's funny because house of uh uh house on haunted hill um does that as well that's yeah

that's right and it's got a great score as we mentioned and that kicks in and as you say gab

yes we cut to a foggy graveyard and we see a priest doesn't this set the tone of the film

it's dark as shit and like it's it's straight away like it seems like i am not religious but

i have this thing where it's very hard and i feel like i have to like not be too bashful which not

like i am or negative towards religion because i feel like it's such a like thing touched upon like

people touch upon i'm touching their toes they're really insulted but it's like but hang on we

with it it's something you chose to do it's it should be a thing but do you know what I mean I

feel like that because of such a a lot of religious people it uh it does a lot of things in the world

it pushes and inspires and I don't know what I'm saying it feeds through a lot of things in the

world it makes a lot of the world go around religion is involved you know what I'm saying

um and straight away though if you're having a movie and having something like a priest

hanging himself uh that's that's quite a thing i feel like because like obviously religion you

shouldn't commit suicide is something you shouldn't do you know well the bible says you don't go into

heaven if you so yourself a bible a bible a priest doing it in a graveyard as well where there's lots

of dead people it's for me straight away i'm looking at going like this is like really almost

artistic in the way that's set and the tone of a film straight in it's bleak it's dark it's serious

as fuck if you're going that way um and it's almost like more full-on than the rest of whole

film itself this opening bit but what an open scene or open yeah and we we don't see it immediately he

looks very haunted and he looks up at a tree branch and that's just so dark because if you've

read the synopsis which a lot of people have done before they put the videotape in or whatever

they'll know that this is probably the priest that's going to hang himself and cause the gates

of hell to open so he looks up at this tree branch and it's like oh boy but then we cut to new york

new york city um where there's a seance going on because we don't know actually where this other

place is so it cuts to new york it doesn't actually need to say that unless it said earlier

on somewhere else because that could just be new york as well but obviously they've got to get to

it so it's a bit of a road trip but we don't know where that is we do find out later on dunwich

isn't it? Yes Dunwich that's right

in

I can't quite remember where it is now but

yeah so they're doing this seance in New York

and there's a few people in a room

a woman, a girl Mary

and she's saying yes I am there

I see you, we have

contact and then we cut

back to the

rope over the branch

and this image of a priest

just hanging, swinging

backwards and forwards. I lie actually it does

say Dunwich

early on in the film yeah so that's fine that then they say new york but yes

um the seance lady seems to see this priest hanging from a tree and what a shot again you

know with that score yeah with that score as well um and yeah just a shot of him swinging and then

we see a zombie rising from the graveyard now this is everything you want so far isn't it a priest

hanging himself, the score, the zombie rising

out the ground, a seance. If you're

going to the video shop and you're looking around

for a movie to watch, what are we going to watch tonight, Billy?

I don't know, Frank, what are we going to watch?

Same with boobs, Billy. Oh,

Frank, that'd be good, and some death.

What murder and blood, that's what we want.

Alright, what's that? City of

the Living Dead, what do you reckon that's about? I reckon

it might be about zombies,

because it's got Living Dead in the title.

Oh yeah, it's the city, so there's loads of

fucking zombies all over the city, Billy.

Brilliant.

probably be some boobs and that's how it would have gone i think looking at that title city of

dead you straight away know it's gonna be zombies well poor old romero you know they're cashing in

on his movie again aren't they anything of the living dead no matter what it is yeah but fuck

it it works it's not a bad movie though so it's not like it's some cheap knockoff or something

so we cut back to the seance as this zombie rises and mary starts to convulse this is mary dies

This is known for other titles though, isn't it?

So it's actually City of the Living Dead.

It's probably the American marketers.

Yeah, there are other titles to it as well.

Original title,

Por la Nella Città de l'Emortifia Viviente.

Which translates to City of the Living Dead.

Oh.

But yeah, what we thought was going to be our main girl, Mary,

dies because of this seance

and because of this thing that's happening in Dunwich now.

spoiler alert

she does come back to life

and it's brilliant

when she does

in a coffin

everyone's worst nightmare

but

she dies

and

that's that really

then a cop shows up

I'm wrong

City of Limb Dead

was just a title

alright

I'm sure I had another title

at some point

can't see

yeah so a cop shows up

and he's like

you mean to tell me

straight away

we're into like

the detective there

the classic detective

He's like, wait, what's going on?

I don't believe you, buster.

And it's great.

I really quite like the fact we're straight in there.

Boom, straight in there.

Like that first scene, the priest hanging.

I was like, my God, that's pretty powerful.

And in a graveyard, then all of a sudden,

in a seance, the person doing the seance sees that shit

and then all of a sudden dies from seeing that shit.

Like, what the fuck are we watching here?

And this cop's great.

He's sort of saying,

you mean to tell me that this lady died of fright from a seance?

Yeah.

Come on.

And then he says, what are you guys on?

What drugs are you taking?

I want to know.

Brilliant.

He just thinks.

And there's an older woman who's friends with a dead woman who's like, she starts saying,

it's the Book of Enoch.

It's a 4,000-year-old book.

Have you not heard of it, detective?

And he's like, what the fuck are you talking about?

I've not heard of some Book of Enoch, 4,000 years.

I think a movie that we have to make is definitely, without a doubt, a film like this,

which we have a woman saying,

but detective, have you not heard of...

And this is some bullshit.

They're like, I've not heard of that jaff talking shit.

And just, like, do that scene.

Because this is so 70s movie.

After he's just said, where's the stash?

It's brilliant.

But then something strange happens

because his assistant cop says,

detective, look, look.

And suddenly this giant fireball appears in the other room

with a growling sound like a dragon or a lion.

And it sort of appears and then disappears.

And everyone in the room is like, oh, my God.

And we're at an audience like, wow, there's your proof, cop.

And he's like, no, it's a prank.

There's got to be a way they did it.

We don't believe this is true.

Come on, this is awful.

This is terrible.

I don't believe any of this.

You're all going to go get a hell for this in prison.

The woman is pretty much saying you can't handle the truth.

Essentially, she says that.

She says to him, detective.

the gates of hell are opened

and awful things are about to happen

in a town far away from here

what the fuck are you talking about

he must be going like for fuck's sake

they've been doing the same

they're all on acid

they've imagined this whole thing

but then it's okay though

because there's a ball of fire

just going up and down in the room next door

so he's like what the fuck's going on over there

and they all rush into the room

and the ball of fire just vanishes

and it's like

straight rise

like how did they

do this ball of fire

going up and down

that was pretty good

really

and then

we cut to

a very strange scene

of a man in the storm

outside

and he approaches

an old abandoned building

and we're like

what was going on here

what's this

he goes inside the building

and he finds his

little blow up doll

that he's got

before this happened

just before this happened

the woman

who's the one

the detective

for questioning

who was there

when the sounds

This is the next person in charge, I guess, after the seance,

who is in charge and doesn't do the seance.

Anyway, she just says, precisely at this time, in another town,

terrible things are happening.

And then she looks directly at the camera while she says this.

Then it cuts to this next scene.

I was just like, this is batshit fucking crazy, but it's quite fun.

And the scene is weird because, as I say, this man, Bob,

goes into this abandoned house.

My new name for him is Blow Up Bob.

Yeah, well, he pulls out his blow-up doll.

It seems to inflate all on its own.

It's the self-inflating ones, like in Only Fools and Horses.

And he starts feeling it up.

He feels the boobs.

I know, it's just like, this is like, some movies,

especially Italian horror movies, definitely get early on.

You just get some boobs.

We're getting a guy in some sleazy sort of setting

with a blow-up doll.

I do not do this.

This is not sexy.

Definitely not sexy.

sexy but before we can go to town with this blurb doll he is distracted by he sees what looks like

a child but it's actually a dolly like a child's doll covered in maggots and rotting flesh and

that's enough to put anybody off banging their i was gonna say that is if there's ever uh like a

cock block maggots are a cock block and that is that is kind of our opening really and then we cut

to meet Christopher George.

Peter, the reporter in New York.

He's here and he's investigating Mary's death.

He's just basically bugging these two guys

who are just not doing much work

and they're really lazy.

They're supposed to be working at the graveyard

burying a coffin with the lady in

who Christopher George is.

Why is he interested in this

and how does he know about this?

Well, before that, he's at the apartment

where the death happened

and he's trying to bribe the cops to get in

and we don't take bribes.

He's like, come on, detective.

So he's just heard of it or he's just been quickly assigned to it

because it must have only just happened.

We also cut back to Dunnage briefly.

There's people in a bar and they're discussing these weird dust storms

that we've been having lately.

Yeah, I like that because you've got a load of...

loads of wind sound effects.

It's such a simple thing to do.

Quite often when we're making films,

I quite like to put rain sound effects on

because it just gives a bit of atmosphere and it's so simple to do and i love the whole thing and i

love the fact that they go these winds are really like no it's planned it wasn't just something in

post it just thought oh let's check a load of wind sound effects for atmosphere um and then it kind

of goes into the barn it really gives me the the fog vibe where it's like the town's setting slowly

building up the story and something's going to happen in the town and the atmosphere outside is

starting to change like the fog but we've got the wind i was like this is not this could be a whole

thing you know it doesn't go that way but you could almost do it with these guys because these

guys are quite charismatic in their own way of characters you know they discuss they they allude

to a strange history that the town of dunwich has we'll find out more about it soon and they say

it's all all started when this that priest hung himself yeah it's all gone scary yeah and then a

mirror cracks and then a wall not just a mirror a wall cracks open with a giant crack down the

middle of that the barman let's say it's the simpsons mo standing there going what's going on

my wall like that and then say barney and homer just like fuck this shit see you later and they

just leave and he's like oh no don't leave me even though it's like smoke starts coming in through

the crack in the wall as well so all he goes and does though is pick up a picture and try to put a

picture back on the hook which i thought was quite realistic because he can't actually do it he has

to put it back down on the floor i was like did he just as an actor just to go into it and just do

that rather than like set it up beforehand it's like a whole thing it came across as very natural

so it's a very fast-paced film so we're already building up this image of this this town of

dunnish it's like a build-up like some creepy shit is going on and then we've got new york where at

the moment things are kind of normal but peter is going to go on this mission soon um we then cut to

a woman on a psychiatrist couch talking about wanting to marry her dad i'm sure most girls

want to marry their dad my kids have never wanted to marry me well the scene starts with

well you picked incest as the topic so yeah why did you choose that is the first what's going on

i know so what has happened here and then she talks about marrying that there is a thing um

a lot of girls go through and i think probably boys with their mums as well

my daughter is utterly obsessed with the moment like you're so beautiful i love you daddy i love

you so much will you always be my daddy i'd love you and if you ask edith who she's going to marry

she'll say me and it's like that's not how it works i'm afraid my dear you won't be allowed to

marry me i'm sorry sorry um yeah it's definitely a thing but this girl she decides that's the topic

she's talking to a psychiatrist about it's an odd topic and then it goes dark then she's he's like

well i mean you know you talk about your dad but he's the reason that you're a man hater isn't it

you hate and you know 80% of women

he gives some random figure like 80%

of my clients who are women

hate men and have a problem with them

and it's like what's going on in New York

why do all the women hate men so much

he's called Jerry by the way

and she's called

Sandra and then a lady called Emily

just walks in in the middle of a session

that was a bit weird

no privacy whatsoever in this

session

yeah, we're just chatting incest here.

I might be getting deep into something here.

And I know what's wrong with him.

Who's this your girlfriend?

Why is she here?

And she says,

I just want to let you know

that I'm off to go and see Bob.

Now, as we know,

Bob is inflatable Bob.

And he says that

you are spending a lot of time

with that guy.

I'm a bit worried.

He's just a funny old lonely guy.

He's a bit of a simpleton.

You know,

and then Jerry says to him,

everybody says his mother was a witch and um he says in fact everybody's ancestors in dunwich

were salem witch burners yeah and she's like oh come on i'm just gonna go and see bob and check

his blood doll doesn't need any puncture repair kits or anything on it you know and then all of

a sudden jerry's cat attacks sandra who's lying on still lying there waiting to continue her

incest discussion the cat savages her hand um and it's because it senses the evil approaching

and he said well that's funny sandra because my cat's never attacked you it loves you why would

it do that it's so strange evil it's very good that's another thing for cheat he loves having

cats in his films as well he does so then we got to the two grave diggers these guys feel like they

they're going to be,

it's like,

here you go,

guys,

here's some new characters

for the film

who are going to be in it

throughout the rest of the film.

No, no,

these are just in it

for this scene.

And one of them

looks like Hulk Hogan.

What are they doing?

What's their setting?

Let me set the scene.

So we've got two guys

eating cheeseburgers,

reading porno mags,

as they're burying

a woman in a coffin.

But they're sitting

on the plank of wood

over a boat,

so their feet are dangling in

to the grave.

They're literally eating,

one of them's reading

porno and he's like, oh, you're going to go blind if you keep

reading those magazines.

And the other one's like, just eat your burger.

And they're just like, what's going on?

And then Christopher George goes, hey, guys, hey, I'm a

reporter. What's happening? What's going on here?

And they're like, go away.

We're busy. And then they get up and

they just go and leave. And he's like,

how are you going to finish the grave? He's like,

we're doing it tomorrow. It's not like she's going anywhere,

is it?

That's so disrespectful.

Yeah, apparently that isn't true.

You'd get fired for that shit.

Yeah, they have to bury it.

Of course, absolutely.

You can't just leave bodies lying around.

Yeah, but her coffin's there ready to go in the hole.

So they put a little bit of dirt on it, but that's it.

So Peter makes some notes while he talks to them

and he has a look at the graveyard.

And then we see inside the coffin.

While Crystal George turns up,

you just have interspliced little cuts of her face,

but there's no reason why that is.

And I kind of just like, I quite like it.

It's a nicely lit shot of just her face full in frame.

Yeah, the coffin is lowered a bit.

There's no reason for it,

but we are going to find out why this keeps cutting to it

and leaving it longer,

which gives you this real sense of anticipation

because you go like,

those eyes are going to open up, aren't they?

And they don't.

It keeps going for so long.

It's really well made.

And then the eyes do open up

and somehow she is actually still alive

and been buried alive.

She starts banging on the lid.

Peter is about to leave the graveyard

and he thinks,

did I just hear a little noise?

I don't know.

Maybe not.

She's panicking the hit.

in the box like shit.

She starts clawing at the inside of it

and blood is coming out of her fingernails.

Again here, this is a really well-made scene

because there's a real sense of suspense just here

because it keeps going back and forwards

and all of a sudden she's exhausted

just as he goes over and he can't hear a thing.

Then some car traffic happens behind him

and he turns away, goes to walk off

and you're like, no, no!

Which makes you really engaged with the film

which is like, this is someone that knows

what they're doing.

And he's literally about to leave.

Just about to.

And you're like, oh, no.

She manages to get a last bit of strength to scream as loud as she can.

And he's like, what the fuck, goes back there and goes, right, I know.

I'm going to get her out.

I won't jump down and see if I can pull it open or anything and wedge it open.

I will just pickaxe my way through it.

Fucking hell.

And from inside the coffin, we see the spike.

Oh, my God, the trauma that she must be having right now.

It's coming with like an inch of her face.

apparently lucio forci when he was talking to christopher george about the scene he's like i'm

just worried i'll i won't be able to like get through the lid and he's like nonsense i'll show

you how it's done and forci jumped down in there and smashed up at one of the coffins and said this

is how you do it you see if i can do it you can do it christopher george was like oh jesus all right

i can't know so um yeah they put another coffin down and um christopher george did this scene

where he smashes through it.

That's like Sam Peckinpah

just fucking shooting guns

to get the scene going.

Come on, bitches!

Once he cuts through this,

there is a brilliant shot,

which has probably been used on posters and stuff,

of just this hole in the lid of the coffin

with her face screaming through the hole.

Yeah, it's great.

And it just looks so good.

It's very stylish.

We talked about him not perhaps being an artist

but he is stylish

this whole scene

build up

set up

and everything

is fucking

a really good sequence

which is actually

made with someone

that knows

what the fuck

they're doing

and they planned it

it's funny though

because it starts off

really like this

and towards the end

it's fine

but this stuff

really is more

suspense for it

so no

there is more

a little bit more suspense

but this is really good

but I guess

they might have

shot it in order

I don't know

then towards the end

you start rushing

you don't have a chance

to create such a

scene

but this is played so well

and like her scream

I mean, the trauma she's having inside that box

looks fucking like she is actually having that trauma.

It looks great.

And instantly, we are suddenly back where the seance took place,

and Mary's sat there.

She's recovering, having a cup of tea.

Peter is being thanked by the strange lady,

who again mentions the Book of Enoch to him,

and he's like, what do you want about the Book of Enoch?

And she says, oh, it's the Book of Enoch.

It's a 4,000-year-old book.

Haven't you heard of it?

It's brilliant.

It's all about the Gates of Hell,

and because a priest hung himself,

The gates of hell are open and we've got, you know.

Is he just not a bit like a freak, weirded out by this whole thing?

He's just like someone who thought they were dead buried.

He's just saved them.

He's hanging out with someone who's about seance

with someone who died who was given a seance

and they're talking about gates of hell.

He's just like, yeah, man.

Maybe it's the 70s.

I don't know.

You just went with it more.

I don't know.

Also, isn't Mary a bit freaked out that she was buried alive

and she saw this horrific vision that killed her

and then she came back alive in a coffin?

And the woman certainly isn't because she's just like,

well, it's the Book of Enoch, isn't it?

It's the Book of Enoch.

It's a bit for,

I don't know,

I would have way more questions

to Christopher George

because he doesn't have as many.

Mary does say to Christopher George,

I saw the cursed city of the dead

in my vision.

And he's like,

hmm, I'm very interested in this.

What's this place called?

And she says,

Dunwich.

And she says,

the gates of hell have been opened

and we need to shut them

by midnight on Halloween.

It's just like,

okay, really?

Am I going to get laid?

It's kind of like that, really.

Is that the only thing he's thinking?

Because I'd be like, I've got some, I've got questions.

I've got questions.

And it is, again, is that now we've discussed it,

do you see what I mean about that?

Tom Atkins sort of, he's going along for the ride.

He's hoping to get perhaps laid.

It seems he's got no agenda.

It's like maybe he has a few days off work.

So he's just going to use that as a, you know,

all right, boss, well, I went on this wild goose chase.

so there we go

night time

now

back in Dunwich

I guess

as a reporter though

straight away

you've got a story

like someone died

and come back to life

so we're at night time

night time back in Dunwich

at a gas station

and there's a girl

she gets out

and it's Emily

the psychiatrist

Jerry's girlfriend

Bob

where are you

Bob it's me

what no

he's a pervert

Why would you go there at night in the dark?

Whatever, that's fine.

She goes there, Bob's crying.

What's her relationship with Bob, do you think?

I think she just feels sorry for him.

Maybe she gives him a handjob occasionally.

Sympathy handjob.

But he's crying with his blow-up doll.

Well, it isn't in the room, but he's the blow-up doll guy.

The kid's called Bob in the other movie we're doing.

I don't even get started on that guy.

I can't wait to talk about him.

Fucking Bob.

Fucking who gives a kid called Bob?

Bob sees her, he runs off, and we hear a cat scream.

And then all of a sudden, the zombie version of that priest who hung himself appears

and starts stuffing worms and dirt and sludge into Emily's mouth.

This must have been a horrible movie to make if you're an actor.

And Luke Jo thought she'd just screaming at you.

They used real worms and maggots.

Oh, yes, it looks like it.

Because later on, there's a scene where one of the actresses is puking.

You can see her just puking up.

Yeah.

I don't think they quickly went in and said,

put some listening mouth, pretend to puke up.

No.

I'll tell you the trivia on that scene when we get to it.

Brilliant, because it's going to be disgusting.

It is pretty disgusting.

Let me just, I'll just pull that up so it's ready to go.

Where is it?

I'll find it in a moment.

But yes, so she's dead.

so we've had another death and this time it's the priest it's quite cool it's this um

zombie priest that just kind of appears and stuffs worms in your mouth and kills you but she's gone

dead the dead ski uh so next up we go back to jerry and he gets a call i assume from emily's dad

and he's like oh i don't know where she's gone last i heard she was going to go and see

blow up Bob

I'm sure she'll be fine

and he writes down on a bit of paper

Bob

while he's on the phone

he's like it must be Bob

is that so he wouldn't forget

Bob

Bob's a great name

Bob's a great name as well

so then we got to

a couple who were making out

in their 4x4 jeep

and it's a guy called Tommy

and a girl and she's nervous she's like tell me why are we doing it here this is it gives me the

willies that's what she says she does she does say that and he's like don't worry about all those

stories about salem witch trials and burning and gates of hell let's just do it and she's like um

okay and then something starts sneaking up on the four by four and then they said it could be a

devil worshipping dogger but it's not they actually see he turns his headlights on and this is a

brilliant shot of just the priest hanging from the beams of the house in front of them and he's like

oh my god oh my god oh my god and then suddenly they blink and the body's gone and the car won't

start and then suddenly the priest is at the window and he's got this brilliant christopher lee thing

going on where they obviously shone torches little lights into the priest's eyes like they did when

christopher he was dracula and it just looks so menacing and haunting as he's heading towards our

car window um and um so he's a ghost he's like a ghost zombie king he's not the king of the zombies

but he's a ghost it's weird it doesn't make sense and it's a lucho fortune film and i love it

we don't question it

I'm assuming he's a ghost

so her eyes

zombie ghosts

like they're in the fog though

they're kind of like zombie ghosts

yeah

that's why it feels the same

her eyes start bleeding

both the same year as well

they were

her eyes start bleeding

and

suddenly

she starts vomiting

and

this is the bit now

I've got a little bit of trivia for.

So in this death scene...

And she got his blood as well, which is great.

Her character vomits up all of her own internal organs.

So the actress had to swallow

a plate of tripe.

Oh.

And then when they said action,

she puked it all back up.

Oh.

There's definitely bits where it's a fake...

Because you wouldn't be able to do that.

It's a fake head for close-ups.

Especially for the big pieces.

There's no way you could, like, puke it up without choking your guts.

You wouldn't be able to put it up without choking.

You know what I mean?

But the way that she did it, the way that she did it was,

and she chose to, she just said,

oh, I'll just eat this plate of tripe, and I'll vomit it up.

And Fulci must have had a boner when she said she'd do it.

He probably took that home and jizzed over that scene.

It probably didn't cut it, because the point where you can see

it's obviously a fake head, and it's just coming out again.

So they must have just cut in between her and the fake head.

But that was disgusting.

But it's an incredible looking scene of a woman vomiting up her own internal organs

whilst her eyes bleed.

I was like, is that her organs?

I was like, oh, what a thing to think of.

Then they puke up all their organs.

Like, oh, my God.

He tries to escape, but he's grabbed at the back of the head

and the back of his head is pulled off, revealing his brain.

It's a full-on, full-on graphic video, this.

And then all of a sudden his brain is plucked out.

Yeah.

It's a bit like bad taste, you know, this little bit.

But his back of his head is ripped off,

then his brains are plucked out.

And that method of death happens a couple of times, I think.

You know, the zombie will grab the back of your head,

rip it off, rip the back of your head off,

and then pull your brains out.

Yeah.

What a terrible way to go.

Yeah.

Absolutely terrible.

So another couple of deaths there.

Fantastic stuff.

Peter and Mary start their quest.

We're back in New York, yep.

To find Dunnage.

In a car.

They're on the way.

They get to know each other a little bit, obviously.

CG is driving.

Oh, Chris for George.

CG, is that what you're calling him?

It's just easier, CG.

And the police and the coroner

have found Emily's body,

the one who had the worm stuffed in her mouth earlier,

and she looks like she's dead from fright.

she's frightened to death like a cardiac arrest

Jerry

her boyfriend shows up the psychiatrist

and he said it was Bob

he's a pervert

but then you have a cop say

what the dickens is this

he literally says dickens

what the dickens is this

we must say for you listeners

these movies are dubbed over

even the English speaking would have been re-dubbed

in English because they're Italian

but they're obviously filmed in the US

what the dickens is this

and you're right yeah they do find a sludge they find a puddle of like black slime with worms in it

as you do and they're like oh what the fuck is all this you know and that again it it's cosmic

it's supernatural it's it's got its own backstory in it i love these for which he films films for

that because we don't really question it we just think oh that's weird um so peter and mary as

they're driving along they get to know each other and she says well i'll tell you my full vision now

if you like.

And he's thinking,

fucking hell.

All right, whatever.

Just tell me it then.

So she says...

I was hoping you could go to sleep

so I could just have a peaceful drive

in the middle of nowhere

and not knowing where I'm going whatsoever

because I'm going to have to look

at a normal map in a minute

and try and figure this out,

which seems bonkers.

What film is it where someone's asleep

and they pull out a little trumpet in the car

and wake them up?

Oh.

And then he suddenly puts it back.

Is it Sam Neill in...

Yeah, it is.

madness it's randomly he has a little thing just wakes him up because he finds it funny to himself

it's such a really weird thing to do yeah so she tells him a full vision of the priest hanging

himself and because he hung himself in a graveyard that opened the gates of hell and obviously in

dunnage the town has a haunted history because of the witch uh the witch burning that happened

and she said what we've got to do is we've got to go there find his grave find the priest

and he must be destroyed.

And all this has got to take place before midnight on Halloween

because the following day is called All Saints Day.

And if we don't do it, then the gates of hell will remain open

and the entire world will be destroyed by zombies.

And he's like, let's keep going then.

I love the fact they're driving around in the countryside

and it's all nice and green, except in the background,

you've got the sound effects of a city.

Beep, beep, beep.

I didn't even notice that.

You're like, what? Who's done this?

Yeah, it's very funny.

Now, cut back to poor old Emily, who had death by mouth full of worms.

Jerry, her boyfriend, and the rest of her family have all gone to visit her body in the morgue.

The mortician looks like a vampire.

That is...

I think that's Lucha Forci.

No, it's not.

Is it not?

Oh, okay.

He's in this somewhere.

He's in it at the beginning of the film.

Oh, okay.

Yeah, he's a weird guy.

Definitely does stuff to the corpses, I would say.

Lucha Forci?

No, no, no, not him.

the mortician character her body is currently being embalmed and bombed and they're putting

makeup on her and whilst while they're in there to go and visit her there's another body in there

like you just leave another body lying around so not only is her little brother who's probably what

eight years old traumatized by seeing his dead sister there's an old lady in there who's dead

as well oh don't worry about that dead one you need to just have trauma over this dead one

and they do say oh yeah that lady over there she died of fright as well just like your sister

It's weird, this is happening a lot in Dunnage at the moment.

That kid must be going, oh my good mummy, my good daughter of fright.

No, just don't be scared of anything.

Okay, he's going to turn into the toughest person in the world.

He's going to be so tough.

And that was how Rambo was born.

That's how Chuck Norris was born.

Ah.

So we cut back to that bar that we mentioned.

And they're doing a little info dump for us audience members now as well.

They're saying, so that's five people dead in 48 hours.

24 hours.

Oh, 24.

And then one of them just says, I think it's Bob.

This Bob guy is getting the blame for all of these dead sisters and fox blood dolls.

Bob likes to have sex with a blow-up plastic night of dolls, you know.

But we do find out some dark stuff about him a bit later on that he got up to when he was younger.

So all the family are crying at Emily's body and that's that.

And then we see Bob, there he is, the man himself, in another dust storm.

And this time he sees the hanging priest.

So he runs and he's going to get killed by him in just a moment.

Peter and Mary pull over in the country.

They're lost.

They haven't got Google Maps.

He's pissed off and it's just like, what were you thinking?

He must have been thinking it was Dick.

He had to be because it's like, come on, at some point you're going to have to look at that map.

And that map you could have looked at before you set off because it's just there.

And going like, where is this place?

But obviously they were like, let's drive around for a while.

Which makes sense, I suppose, if you could find it.

Let's drive up here.

But no one's even heard of Dunnage.

Most people haven't even heard of Dunnage.

Yeah.

So it's not on any maps.

And then he says, well, I'm hungry.

She's like, me too.

And he's like, let's go get some food then.

Some local cuisine, as he puts it.

Yeah.

Back in the morgue, Mary and the old lady's bodies are there.

And the mortician comes in and steals their jewellery from them.

So he's definitely a wrong one, isn't he?

and as he goes to reach for the old lady,

she bites a big chunk out of his hand.

Dude, that's what you get.

That should be what happens to all people who steal from the dead.

They come back as zombies for the moment and bite a chunk out of them.

Oof.

Don't steal from the dead.

That'd be great.

That's a nice movie title.

Don't steal from the dead.

Ah, that's a good title, actually.

Write it down.

they're both films don't steal from the dead coming this halloween um now little john john

emily's brother he's very upset and he's very traumatized he's sitting in his bedroom

crying he's just been to see his dead sister's body and he hears something out of the window

um and he sees a a woman outside sort of staring at him and it's emily and she's rotting she's a

a zombie and he runs downstairs he goes mommy daddy emily's back and she's trying to get me and

this is sounds crap how i'm saying it's actually done really well because this kid acts it out quite

well and bear in mind this is a kid that's just lost his sister and he's run downstairs and told

his parents emily's back she was trying to come in my room to get me and take me away it sounds like

everything a kid would say when they've had a nightmare and of course the first thing his dad

says is for god's sakes phone the doctor getting some pills it's like yeah sure just drug up your

son that's absolutely fine poor kid and he says it's true it's true i did see her no i'm gonna

get you some medicine make sure you sleep um uh next we see um bob sneaking around again

always cutting back to bob uh jerry gets a phone call jerry the psychiatrist emily's

surviving boyfriend and it's sandra and she says get here now he said what is it she said i can't

explain it's too weird you just gotta get here i love this next scene he says i'll be there in 10

minutes so he gets in his car and he burns over to her house and while he's on the way there we see

Bob breaking into a garage.

Someone's garage.

No, he wants to...

See, he's homeless, isn't he?

Yeah.

So he gets in the back of a car

and has a little sleep.

Find out more about him in a minute.

Fucking hell, he gets what's coming to...

He doesn't...

I don't know if he deserved this.

He doesn't already.

I'm surprised he hasn't got his...

He's like his girlfriend.

His arm reined it.

Spooning in the back of the car.

Now, Jerry arrives at Sandra's house.

She's holding a gun

He's like, what the hell?

What's going on?

Why have you called me at this time of night?

Why are you holding a gun?

And she says, I think I'm losing my mind.

Go look in the kitchen.

You tell me if I'm losing my mind.

And he goes in the kitchen.

What's on the kitchen floor, Gav?

It's the old lady who died,

who was in the other room,

back where we were speaking of earlier,

is now here.

So this is assuming we're going,

she's got up, walked off,

like in the fog when Jamie Lee Curtis is left in the room

with the dead body.

Exactly the same.

So this one's got up and just somehow got past everybody

and just walked to this person's house.

She says, Jerry, it's the woman from the morgue.

How did she get here?

Who put her here?

They don't just walk here on their own, these things, do they?

And he says, I think we need a stiff drink.

I'm glad that it was then.

It wasn't in her mind because he had been like,

what the fuck's wrong with you?

So they need to tell the sheriff, they say.

And then they hear something outside.

Jerry grabs her gun.

It's like breathing.

It's a very, very Goblin-esque score going on here.

I say it like that because I think people know Goblin a lot more,

so you can imagine what that sort of thing is.

Very much this sort of thing going on at the moment.

It's great.

Look, it's what you want.

I like the breathing sound effects, actually.

Yeah, it's good.

But they investigate it.

They can't see anything.

When they go back to the kitchen, their body is gone.

And the shots of the street with fog and wind and stuff as well come into it as well,

which is really very much like the fog.

It's very good.

This is a great Halloween movie.

It's got a good atmosphere sort of building up, you know.

Yeah.

So the body is gone, but then they hear somebody upstairs.

Sandra starts freaking out.

Her and Jerry search the house,

and we can see some feet behind, like, a dressing screen.

You know, those screens people dress behind.

They don't see that, but we, the audience, see it.

And then the lights cut out, and then suddenly the window smashes,

and huge pieces of glass go flying through the air.

Jerry and Sandra duck.

They slice into the blind,

and lots of blood starts pouring out,

and it's killed this zombie old lady thing

that's still in the house.

I don't know, but it's freaked them out.

Yeah.

Well, coming back to Peter and Mary,

who stop at a church.

Just need Paul, don't we?

Peter and Mary and Paul.

Yes, we do.

And they talk to a priest who says,

Ah, yes, Dunnage, I know it will.

You've taken the wrong turn.

Let me give you some directions.

Can I ask why you're going there?

Also, do you know about Dunnage's past?

It's got a very dark past linked to Salem and the witch trials.

So he gives them a bit of information,

and therefore us, the audience, as well.

But mainly, the most important thing is,

they've now got directions to Dunnage, which is great.

Which I assume they were going to probably freestyle this anyway

and ask for help.

back to bob well that bob's disturbed from his sleep now and ends up having a permanent sleep

yeah so a girl called ann walks in she's like oh my god but what are you doing in my dad's car he'll

kill you don't don't if he sees you here and he's oh i didn't have anywhere to sleep so i'll tell

you what we'll do look i've got a she pulls um a hip flask out of her crotch and also a joint and

She's like, well, let's have a drink.

Can I have a joint?

Come on, it's fine.

But all of a sudden, her dad just bursts in the room

and finds Bob in the back of his car with his daughter,

smoking a joint and having a drink.

And he goes fucking ballistic, doesn't he?

For Bob, Bob is just at one moment having the best 10 seconds of his life.

He's like, oh, my God, I might get some here.

I'm having a drink as well.

She's not inflatable.

In the back of a car.

This is amazing.

And then in seconds, that's gone completely.

If there was any...

I'll bring a cock block into it again for the second time this episode.

But that is definitely maggots and screaming dads.

I compare this scene to the scene in the Friday the 13th movie

where the kid gets destroyed by an axe.

Ooh, baby.

No, no, no.

Ooh, baby.

No, you know when the kid is like,

I'm not going to share my chocolate bar with you.

Because it's just anger.

It comes out of nowhere.

And it's so unhinged.

And he basically beats up Bob

because he thinks he's molesting his daughter

in the back of his car.

And then he's got this industrial drill.

Which Bob accidentally turns on with his hands.

So if you imagine a normal hand drill

for anyone who hasn't seen this scene,

but three times as big on its side

attached to like a workbench.

With a 12-inch drill bit.

And her dad holds him down and just starts pushing him closer and closer.

And you're thinking, he's just trying to scare him.

Nope.

What happens, Gav?

Great effects happen.

This drill just goes through this guy's head.

And it looks so brilliant.

Because obviously the close-up is obviously a fake head.

I don't know how they've done it.

But then the next shot of him, after it's gone through, the widest shot as it is,

we've got a perfect drill, perfectly the same, going round.

it's just like, how have you done this?

What magic is this?

It's very, very good.

It looks like it's coming out.

It goes into his temple and then it comes out the other side of his head as well.

And it's a big, thick drill as well.

It's not as small as you can see it.

And the guy's still screaming.

It looks so good.

And, I mean, he's got to explain this to the cops, hasn't he, now?

Like, now that...

Why did you...

If that shot was in a movie now, I'd be like,

well, it's probably, they'd probably just AI'd it.

Yeah.

But imagine the cops showing up now.

so what happened here well i came into my garage and um bob was in the back of my car with my

daughter but why did you brutally shove a giant industrial drill through his head the judge is

gonna look at all of this and be like i don't know it seems like you sort of went a bit full-on with

it rather than just like you could have just punched the police tied him up or just yeah just

start fucking giving the kick in.

This is a drill through the head as well.

It's not like a gunshot.

This is personal.

Also, his daughter has just witnessed her dad murdering.

She's just smoking a joint gun, Jesus Christ.

I was going to give him a little handjob in the back of the car.

Do you want to do it?

Is it all right to come around your house tomorrow night?

Yeah, yeah, totally.

Did you used to have another boyfriend or something happened to your house?

Oh, yeah, my dad.

He found this guy with me in the basement.

He drilled through his head.

Don't worry about it.

Let's go up to my bedroom.

So I'm not going up to your bedroom, love.

I am off.

Yeah.

Absolutely.

It's a brilliant scene, though, and it's so faulty

because it's out of nowhere.

He does drop these violent acts out of nowhere,

and we certainly weren't expecting this.

The first time I ever saw this, I was just, like, so shocked.

Yeah, it's good.

It's probably the best drill kill I've ever seen.

So far, this film is fun.

This is a definite high recommender

in real 70s Italian horror.

This is it.

This is brilliant.

It's really in depth in some ways of layers.

And there's a lot of cutting backwards and forwards,

but it's easy to follow as well.

Yes, it's fine.

It's got everything you want.

I remember watching a lot of these movies

when we were sort of 19, 20.

We'd all sort of sit around watching them,

drinking and stuff,

and this just wanting to splatter.

You wouldn't remember stories, just be like splattering stuff, you know.

Well, talking of cutting backwards and forwards,

we cut back to Peter and Mary, who are now in the graveyard that she saw in her vision.

And lovely foggy house shots again, which we should have had later on in the House by the Cemetery.

And she says, we need to find the priest's grave before midnight.

She repeats it again.

But Jerry is also there.

He arrives.

So they meet up and he meets Peter and Mary.

And he's like, oh, you guys are here now.

Yeah, we're trying to find the priest, basically, the zombie priest.

We need to kill him before midnight.

And Jerry's like, oh, great.

Well, I'll help you.

Who's Christopher George?

Peter.

Peter.

So we've now got Peter, Jerry and Mary teaming up.

So they go to Jerry's house and Sandra joins them too.

So we've got a little foursome now.

And they realise they all have the same goal,

which is we want to stop this craziness,

so I guess we all need to find this zombie ghost priest

and kill him before midnight.

So the clock's ticking, guys.

Let's get going.

But while they're all discussing this in the living room,

we get the windows explode

and a storm of maggots...

Oh, this is so full on.

blows into the living room.

This must have been an industrial,

one of those massive fans,

like, you know,

eight foot diameter sort of fans,

just there.

And someone,

like boxes of maggots on top of them,

just dropping them down into it,

blowing them in,

all over the people,

like all in their mouths,

everything.

That's where one of the women,

you can see her puke it up.

Disgusting.

If you thought the scene in Suspiria,

the original Suspiria,

where the maggots fall into their hair

was disgusting,

this is just...

It is fucking disgusting.

alone absolutely mental apparently um they had loads and loads of maggots on set and one day

falchi who always carried around a little like a little almost like a handbag with him and in it

it was full of tobacco and his pipe because he smoked a pipe one day he reached into his bag

to pull out some tobacco and his bag was full of maggots uh and it was christopher george had

played a prank on him.

Oh.

Probably to get him back.

I thought he was not happy.

I would say it's for getting back

for being a...

I don't know.

I was about to say being a dick,

but just being a full-on director,

it's just...

I don't know.

It's really gnarly.

And the phone rings,

and you can just hear

these horrible maggot sounds

the whole time.

Not through the phone,

just in general.

And they're trying to...

Someone's trying to have a phone call

with these maggots

just going everywhere.

It's like,

oh my God, dude.

The floor's white.

It looks like Rice Krispies

all over the floor.

They used two wind machines and £22 or 10 kilograms of maggots,

real maggots for this scene.

And, yeah, it's something you've got to see, really.

You know, as I said, a maggot storm, really, blows in, covers everything.

Like Gav said, the phone.

He's trying to pick up the phone.

Hello?

It's like, sorry, I can't hear.

There's maggots in my ear a minute.

Hang on a minute.

And they're everywhere.

They're in everyone's hair, all over the table, all over the floor.

don't know i'd be like i think reading the script to be like yeah i really want to do this movie and

i need to work but i'm not doing that like fuck you the floor is um moving isn't it like the floor

is like pulsating because there's so many it's really disgusting but on the phone on the other

on the other end of the phone it's little john john who says um uh emily's emily's back and

she's killed my parents um and they're like it was john john this is a great moment he's like what

did he say he said emily killed his parents and the other one says but emily died two days ago

and it's just so great it's so cheesy and so great and just tells us everything we need to know

and we cut to little john john and there's blood dripping down from the chandelier in the above the

kitchen into his milk what a lovely visual of these little red droplets falling into his cup of milk

yeah um so they all arrive at his house and he says my god they've all been ripped to pieces

um so there's another dust storm so they the four of them drive off now with john john's there's

five of them now um and so peter mary jerry uh they say well we'll go into the mortuary

um and the score just kicks in again and now and again the score in this film just makes me

so happy i can't explain it it's i think like i said to you this would be a great film to watch for

11 p.m on halloween do you know what i mean it's just got such great atmosphere

um so sandra and john john are back at jerry's um and dead emily scalps and de-brains sandra

it was also called the gates of hell of course it was i thought it was called that yeah i was

gonna say earlier um but yeah sandra gets these the usual back of the head ripped off and the uh

brains ripped out so emily's wandering around still doing that to people um

john john runs away but dead tommy grabs him um tommy's the guy that was trying to get his end

away with the girl in the four by four john john manages to escape though thankfully um and then

And the undead coroner, more of the undead, corner him in an alleyway.

So we go full on like zombie army now.

There's probably a good dozen or so of them wandering around this little village.

And they sort of corner him, but Jerry saves him.

Some cops show up and we think, oh my God, the cops are here.

Everything's going to be okay.

So Peter, Mary and Jerry enter a graveyard.

And the radio says, on the radio we're hearing,

It's a state of emergency all over Dunwich.

People are being urged to adhere to the curfew and stay inside.

And the bar, rather than go home, all the guys in the bar are like,

well, I guess we're staying here.

And they just barricade themselves in the bar, don't they?

As any good group of alcoholics would do.

This is where the beer is.

And one of them says, the dead are leaving their tombs.

do you think it's a good idea that we stay here?

And they're just like, yeah, this is fine.

Just keep pouring the drinks.

Emily appears outside

and we'll find out more about what happens to the bar staff later.

It's a shame you don't see them get killed.

I know.

I think because they really set them up and we kept cutting to them.

And I really liked those guys in a way.

You know, I think they played great.

What they did each time, they decided, what the fuck?

And they were all really shocked every time.

They'd be looking like, what the fuck is that?

you know and it's quite good atmosphere going on we're cutting back to there i mean new signs

building up then we just don't see the depths after we see so many deaths and stuff like it's

like i don't know it's almost like was it b unit went down there and just shot that stuff you know

the the bar reminds me of the bar and silver bullet a little bit yeah do you know i mean just

like you got your locals drinking in there the law taking the law into their own hands that kind of

thing um so uh where are we at so back at the graveyard now i don't know why they use this bit

of foley is it what a bird sounds it's monkeys and birds yeah it's really strange it's really

strange well like i said i think the sound effects guy who's doing this stuff needs to be uh fired

because like i said earlier city landscape for them sort of driving in the country it's very weird

it is weird but they hear all these weird noises coming from the trees she's like that's the tree

hung himself from and then suddenly mary realizes oh my god it's midnight it's all saints day i think

we're too late um and we cut back to the bar and we see that the undead have slaughtered everybody

in the bar so i don't know if there's zombies or undead or whatever they are and on the radio we've

got again repeated everybody stay in your side your homes you must not leave it you know do not

go anywhere there's like a warning going on it's very nice it's very uh george romero-esque

and the fog that kind of thing almost yes again the fog it's funny though because they'd be

being made at the same time so you can't even think that they watched the fog and took some

pieces from it it's really interesting yeah well they've got to find where this priest's grave is

so one of them happens to know that his family tomb is just over there so they go over to it

they open it there's lots of rats inside it um uh they open the priest's coffin but it's it's not in

there isn't this priest is gone and they can see inside the wall the other side of the tomb has been

the wall has been broken down and they're like it's almost like somebody took him from the other

side or he broke out so jerry says well i'd say well let's all just climb in climb in through this

wall and go further down underground under the graveyard should be a good plan looking for the

gates of hell brilliant so they they all climb in um dead sandra approaches them and peter

christopher george is gone he gets the back of his head scalped off yeah and then just to throw it

even more as he falls to the floor

with his brain taken out, a load of rats

run over and start eating his brains.

Of course they do.

Wow. Of course they do. It's the Vulgie movie.

Vulgie.

Mary's eyes start to bleed

and as we know, this might mean she's about to

vomit up her internal organs. It's never a good sign

if your eyes are bleeding in this film.

But Jerry manages to

grab a big piece of metal and

spear.

The priest turned up again

after Christopher George died,

we have the priest sort of then turn up.

But we also got, though,

it didn't say about all the skeletons started rising,

it looked like out of the Spanish quadrilogy

Tombs of the Blind Dead,

because we had a load of skeletons to rise up,

and they start trying to surround them.

Or the end of poltergeist.

Yeah, and they all start walking through them.

They all start falling out the wall, don't they?

So they're like, oh, but it's like,

then the priest turns up,

and they're like, oh, so I love the fact he's just like,

I'm just going to get this,

and it's like, you know, we know with vampires,

we can stake them in the heart,

but with zombie priests,

you stake them in the groin.

yeah well first of all jerry spears sandra undead sandra and then this is where they realize that

they're under the graveyard and we get all these over the years where they've been bearing all these

bodies obviously the skeletons are just hanging down from sorry i jumped ahead because i thought

you were going to say that bit do apologize no that's fine so there it's a great visual now

because they're under a graveyard so all these zombies are all these um skeletons are hanging

down from what is their ceiling but obviously it's the graveyard floor and it just looks so horrible

um they managed to escape through a tunnel but as they do loads of zombies start waking up

and i love it in movies where zombies actually rise up out of the ground

you know you don't get that classic zombie that's why you need to have zombies they've got to come

out ground it's because we started going into the infected zone so we had them where they're just

changing.

No, I like it like in, even in Thriller

where they rise out of brain.

Thriller now.

Yeah, so loads of zombies start chasing

them. Jerry manages

to spear the

priest with a crucifix

in the groin, as you said.

He screams

and then catches fire.

I think if I was stabbed

in the groin, I would scream and also catch

on fire.

but because he's like the king of the zombies or the vampires um all the other zombies catch fire

too so it's almost like killing him is killing all of the zombies do you reckon they all got

groin penetration i do i think we all did watching this um they all catch fire they all collapse

and there's quite a nice shot now where the priest sort of collapses to the floor and i think this is

what hammer horror was always trying to do when dracula was killed because he turns into a pile

of ash which slowly dissolves away into nothing and it's done quite nicely with time lapse

um until eventually there's nothing left and we cut back outside

here we go for the ending now we cut back outside and there's some cops with john john

the little boy and they see jerry and mary climbing out of the tomb the only survivors

and he's like

Mary, Jerry

and he starts running over to them in slow motion

and he cuts back to the parents going

oh brilliant, so they ducked down

and then all of a sudden there's some sort of sound effects

that are sort of thundery

but not really thundery, maybe not wind

just some sort of

sound effects

and the mum's going no!

no!

and then what happens then?

she screams no and then the screen

has like an animated

crack appear on it.

Not the screen,

but the actual screen, as Dan's saying,

the shots just steals, and all of a sudden

this animated crack comes out,

like the glass, it's broken

through. Are we saying that he's broken

through our TV sets, and it gets a hell of...

I don't know what it means.

Yeah,

so this ending doesn't make

any sense, really, unless

you really want it to, and there's loads

of theories about what this could be,

you know,

there's a lot of

talk and I'll read you

one or two of the bits now

where was the bits?

It was possibly rushed.

Yes.

Where like beginning it was so like

expertly put together

this is why as a producer

once told me to

when making a film, film your ending first.

Yeah apparently

there is a rumour that the

original ending

someone spilt coffee on it

and they had to sort of just make do with what they had.

That's one of the rumors.

Can you imagine a shouting you'd have from Lucho Fulci for doing that?

He'd be throwing maggots at you.

It'd be like in Hitler angry territory.

Jesus.

Yeah, a lot of people just don't understand the ending

and I don't really think you're supposed to.

I just feel like he didn't know how to end it.

So are we saying that they didn't close the gates of hell?

What is she screaming at?

why she shouted no.

Yeah, we don't.

That's the thing.

We don't see what it is.

We just needed a shot of something,

but we don't.

We don't know.

So how did it,

what, something came up in between both of them,

the gates of hell we felt?

I don't know.

I don't know.

It's a really weird ending,

and it's a freeze frame.

I can't explain it to you really,

but like I said,

there's a lot of theories,

and you can read into it.

There's documentary.

It's a shame.

It is a shame.

But do you know what, though?

I don't mind that it's a fucked up ending

that doesn't make any sense

because the whole film really,

although there has been a good plot,

the ride has been fantastic.

There is some really good set pieces in it.

I feel like it does kind of just,

yeah, start to not have complete

whole director or hold

over towards the end.

Like, I mean,

it gets a little sloppy almost,

but early on it's strong.

When we talk about it,

where you're like,

wow, this is amazing,

this scene's really good,

but then it kind of,

I feel like it's just one of those things,

probably start running out of time,

when you're shooting.

I feel like the last 15 minutes,

takes this from,

reduces this,

it still gets an 8 out of 10 from me,

but it could have got higher than that,

but the last 15 minutes,

is a little bit like,

what's going on here?

Yeah.

But,

listen,

this has got some incredible gore,

some incredible practical effects,

some incredible kills,

it's got some great visuals,

with maggots,

The score is incredible.

The atmosphere, as Gab's pointed out a few times,

is phenomenal in this as well.

It's a bit of a road trip movie

and that Tom Atkins style that we mentioned.

But if you've not seen this,

please go check it out.

And it's on YouTube, actually.

There is a really good quality copy on YouTube.

But it's everywhere else if you want to rent it or buy it.

Arrow have done a release.

It's on Prime to buy or rent as well.

It's everywhere.

easy to see I actually did YouTube yeah I did too HD copy and of the other film

has by centuries HD copy on YouTube as well it's on shadow for free well not

for free but I've got a shadow so I watch the other one on the shutter oh do

not I actually have it on DVD but I didn't watch it so I wanted to watch

high-def because sometimes it's nice to just check a little bit more high

definition of the some of these films but it's definitely a recommendation from

I think both of us

yeah

yeah it's a really

phenomenal movie

but not phenomenal

it's an amazingly

fun film

it's kind of what you want

if you say someone

well if you've never seen

an Italian horror movie

it's like

or

or if you're like

I've never seen

an Italian zombie horror movie

you would go with

his zombie film

we spoke of earlier

you know

yeah

I think this is

this and zombie

are probably two of the

ones you'd want to show off

if you were telling somebody

who knew she was

yeah

where I think

if you want to show me

Italian horror

but if

if there's someone

who knows cinema

you would then go

which they would probably

know Devo anyway

but you'd go

oh let's watch a

Devo Gento movie

a bit more

do you know what I mean

but someone like

I just want to

have some beers

and just watch

some fucking

gore and shit

okay let's watch this one

you know

it's a good

Friday night movie

yeah

well there we go

that was the gates

of

not the gates of hell

and I can see

a Mr. Bill Murray

mr murray's here so mr murray oh my lasagna's ready gaff yeah he told me he's got some special

sauce he uses i don't know so i'm not eating any okay well i will put that down on the side

and might try that a bit later on bill could you please take us into world of the strange

hi welcome back to world of the strange

World of Strange.

World of Strange.

World of Strange.

World of Strange.

This is the World of Strange.

Do not adjust your scent.

Well, thank you Bill Murray for that intro.

This is World of Strange.

Now this is a little story that comes courtesy of a good friend of mine.

Shout out Julia.

So a bit of a backstory there, and then I can tell you the story itself.

She's actually linked into this story.

Well, she has the gates of hell in her house.

She doesn't. No, the story in World of the Strange, as opposed to Luccio Forci.

This one is actually not linked to either of our films.

That's what I was meant, you know.

Yeah, but it is a phenomenal story all the same,

and I think it might inspire a little bit of fun conversation.

So, have you ever heard of Wojtek, the soldier bear?

No.

Great, fantastic.

So, my friend Julia, she lives in the Glasgow area.

Her family are originally Polish.

She was born in Poland.

She mentioned to me recently, just casually,

I went to Edinburgh the other day to visit the Wojtek Memorial.

And I said, the what?

You know, the bear.

I said, I don't know what you're talking about.

She told me the story.

And now she's linked in with it.

So, Wojtek the bear is, to break it down for you,

and then we'll get into the details.

He was a bear that was recruited by the Polish army during the World War in 1944.

as a soldier i think i've heard of it but i don't know details and fought alongside them in

many countries which i'll get into the details in a moment now the reason she links into this

is because um as i've said poland to scotland her grandfather actually fought alongside

Wojtek and knew

Wojtek the bear

What, they're mates?

Yeah, they were friends, yeah

Her grandfather

so when

obviously when the war ended, Wojtek

the bear was brought to Edinburgh Zoo

that's where he lived out his last days

very peacefully, passed away

and there's a memorial to him now

because he's a very famous

bear which I'd never heard of

Did he have animal

PTSD or anything?

well we'll get into it yeah okay yeah okay so there is an article so this is a bit of a memorial

to to julie's grandfather there is an article that was there was multiple articles about him actually

um he passed away sadly in 2023 at the age of 96 he was one of the last living polish soldiers

who fought in monte casino in 1944 and he was a friend of the legendary bear soldier boy tech

an actual bear

a bear, yeah a real bear

just very quickly

yeah we'll get on to that

because I knew you were going to go down this

I'm doing it now I don't care, very quickly

you're just like I'm ready for it

I'm going to kill those

Polish and English and everything else today

I said come on let's get going

and you're going at it, it's hand to hand combat

the guys, alright we're here for it

and you go towards it and it's like

that guy, that soldier's well

big and hairy isn't he

it's a fucking bear

they've got a bear as a soldier

who's going against him I'm not going against

the bear that's just insane

anyway sorry

I had to let that out because I'm just imagining

this I knew this would

I'll be quiet again

so yeah he helped

in the army with the

Polish army

and eventually as I said he came

to live the rest of his life in

zoo so here's a bit of a back story so in spring of 1942 the newly formed amdur's army left the

soviet union for iran accompanied by thousands of polish civilians who had been deported to the

soviet union on the journey some of the polish soldiers encountered a young iranian boy who'd

found a bear cub the bear cub's mother had been shot by hunters so one of the civilian refugees

an 18 year old boy um i think it was handed it over to them uh and they they bought the bear

uh and they spent the next three months with the bear living in a polish refugee camp

uh in tehran um and it was looked after well you know obviously it's a bear so it's going to start

growing um the bear was eventually donated to um the second 22nd artillery supply company

the soldiers there

do you reckon it was like a free range bear

what it laid eggs

no

do you reckon it was just allowed to just

fucking go wherever it went

like get out of there Barney

you know or whatever

from what I've read about it

it was really friendly with the Polish soldiers

whose side it was on

I imagine it was a free range bear

he became a part of the army

so as he grew

grew up

they realised he had problems swallowing

so they gave him

milk from an old vodka bottle

and they fed him

fruit and he loved fruit, marmalade

honey, syrup

and beer

beer was his favourite drink

but he obviously was eating a lot of

protein and meat or fish

or something

I guess so

that size is the energy you'd need

he also drank coffee in the mornings

with the other soldiers.

What?

Sorry, do you know what bear it is?

Probably does say...

Brown, more grisly and black, you know.

Yeah, I mean, it's European, isn't it?

So I can't find that at the moment.

I might have that in a moment.

Oh, you can go down.

Okay.

But basically, he drank coffee in the mornings.

His favourite drink was beer and he smoked cigarettes.

He would also eat cigarettes as well.

And it started to copy the other soldiers.

So drinking the beer and the coffee, smoking.

It started marching alongside the soldiers on its hind legs,

on its back legs, standing up straight, copying the soldiers.

He had his own person, his own caregiver to look after him.

And as he grew up, and by the time the Battle of Monte Cassino happened,

He weighed 90 kilograms, which is 14 stone or 200 pounds.

Brown.

It's not.

It's the most common.

So there we go.

So he started off as a bit of a mascot and decided he wanted to be a soldier off his own bat.

He just wanted to copy these humans, which is crazy.

So he went all over the world fighting in different parts of the world during the war.

I've got questions.

Yeah, yeah.

We'll get on to all of that.

And as I say, sadly died in 1963 in Edinburgh Zoo,

but had a great life and has been really celebrated

by the Polish people.

And obviously people in Scotland will know of this bear as well

because that's where he died.

And he is a Polish soldier, a bear.

Now, you've already said the thing I wanted to say,

which is imagine going up against the Polish army.

Now, people in the army are highly trained, you know,

and even in World War II,

you're still highly trained in hand-to-hand combat guns.

You've got a knife on the end of your gun and all of that.

So you know you're just going to get down and dirty,

but like you said,

when you see that they've got a bear on their side,

you are kind of thinking,

well, we're screwed really here, aren't we?

Yeah.

Surely the first thing they would have done was,

if it's a bear, it's a pretty big target.

They'd shoot at that.

It got shot at a lot.

I wonder at what point it's all brought out.

It must have been when, I don't know, it's very strange.

Also, at what point when you're with the bears in the camp,

you're just like, Sarge, you've got an idea.

What do you mean?

I've got an idea.

You know the bear, yeah.

You know the bear does what we do, yeah.

Why don't we get him to come do some fighting with us in the front line?

Yeah, all right.

How do we kick him out?

There's no clothes going to fit.

We put a big helmet on him.

What do we do?

I don't know.

Can't hold a knife.

Just claws people up and growls at them.

It'll shit them up.

All right.

send them out what's so what's so strange is this bear was so friendly to its polish comrades it was

it would sleep with if it was really cold it would let the some of the soldiers cuddle up to it

because obviously it was really warm yeah um it was and it was it would wrestle with the soldiers

play fighting with them they even taught it to salute they even taught it to salute there's no

video footage of this I suppose there's loads of photographs of it did did the

bear see them attacking a certain type of human and go that's the one got attack

I just lots of I don't understand how it all works there's logistical problems in

my head for this he served him stationed in Iraq Syria Palestine and it's amazing

This bear is incredible.

I've done six tours of Judy.

Exactly.

So this is why I wanted to bring this up on this for Board of the Strange,

because Julia mentioned this to me so casually,

and it was a story I'd not heard of,

and then she revealed to me that obviously her grandfather was a friend of this bear.

Very quickly before we got into that, where was she going to look at it?

To look at the memorial for it, because it died in the 60s.

Where's the memorial?

In Edinburgh.

It's a big-night statue.

yeah a great big statue yeah and that's where it lived at its last days it was well looked after

and obviously a very famous bear you know how many kills did it have i don't know it doesn't say

we need kill we need kill count several i should imagine yeah but yeah i was talking to her about

this for ages the other day and i said to her you know this is going to inspire a conversation with

we're going to have to chat about what it must be like fighting against about having a bear as your

friend but also like gov why isn't anybody made a film of this yeah soldier bear do you know what

i mean like you need some good cgi there and some good trained bears but this would mean and then i

started saying to julia well what other animals would you have if you're in an army you know in

india they could have a tiger i'd have a little crew so i'd have definitely like you could only

have one you can only have one no i don't give a shit i have as many as i want that's my rules

i would have bear hawk or eagle all right brave star um i'd i'd be brave star essentially

eyes of a wolf ears of a hawk strength of a bear yeah speed of a puma

yeah swimmy of a fishy i was thinking about different countries you know like you've got

tigers in india so imagine the indian army's got like a tiger that they come out with that they've

trained to be a soldier, you know?

You know, a bear is very sort of Eastern European,

so that's fine.

America would have like an eagle.

What's Britain got?

What's England got?

What have we got?

A bulldog.

Oh, yeah, we've got a British bulldog.

Yeah, what's it going to do?

It's going to breathe.

I struggle to breathe for a bit.

It really is.

A badger.

We could use a badger.

We could train badgers in the English army.

They're pretty vicious when they want to be.

but i was just thinking about there must be other animals out there that have been trained

and why isn't this done been done more because if sounds like voitek was happy lived a great life

everyone loved him you let the soldiers cuddle up to him you got his coffee in the morning his beer

in the evening a couple of cigarettes a day it's obviously this is the thing is though it's just

there at that point in in history in life where no one was going to start going well you know that's

it hashtag don't give the bear cigarettes hashtag don't let the bear fight that's not fair hashtag

free the bear all that shit it's just gonna be they're like give him some beer sarge come on give

him a pack of fags let's get him out there fight come on yeah come on let's have a fight and

yeah it's a free-for-all is i don't think there's only certain times in history i feel like these

things can achieve a bit happen and this happened you know i was just i was just shocked really that

I'd never heard of it.

I think I've heard it in passing,

possibly somewhere,

something about something like that,

for sure.

I think he was classed as a corporal.

Incredible.

Corporal Voightech the soldier.

Imagine if you couldn't achieve being a corporal.

A bear can do better than you.

How many kills have you got, Billy?

Oh, I managed to graze someone's shin once.

Well, that bear's taken out 22 soldiers in the last year.

The last hour.

He's just eating them all.

He has heads everywhere.

He just rips her heads off.

How did he know that?

How did he know the difference?

That's what I'm saying.

How did he know what sort of type of humans to go for?

I guess the uniform.

I guess the uniform and, you know, he knew that the guys in his.

How did they train that though?

Well, if they taught him to salute, then he can recognise the right uniforms.

These ones, bad.

Stab them.

This one, bad.

I think Julia mentioned this to me as well.

At the zoo, if you said something to him in Polish, he would salute.

um

you still remember how to salute

if I say to my dog Kat

he just goes mad what if someone in the zoo

is just like Nazis

he's gonna go nuts

what the bear's like what do you mean

ripping everyone's heads off

oh bless him

but yeah what an incredible

piece of history

and linked to somebody that I know

I could say her grandfather

was one of the last

respect respect yeah totally yeah 96 as well a fantastic um ludwig his name was um and i've

asked julie if i can talk about this with you know we're being fairly respectful her mum might be

she said it's just uh it's just you could just be like once once you've come back from fighting

with a bear not with it against it with it actually together as comrades you know it's like literally

nothing cooler than that

there's no pub story

going to be better than that

exactly

imagine Julia

when she was a little girl

and her grandfather's like

did I ever tell you about

did I ever tell you about

my friend the bear

that I fought in the war with

and Julia's like

what do you mean grandpa

and he's like

oh sit down Julia

I'll tell you all about it

and obviously she's grown up

knowing all of this

so it's like

it's pretty normal

but it's like

really amazing story

oh I love it

love that story that's world of the strange quite a nice quite a nice one really for us

very different well thank you for that thank you to your friend yes thank you julia and your mum

if you're listening shout out to both of you um thanks and a big shout out to ludwig her grandfather

and also to voitek the soldier bear thank you for your service uh gentlemen thank you for your

service, Mr. Bear. And gentleman Bear.

What other bears would do well

in the war before we go? Yogi.

Yogi, he'd just be looking

for picnic baskets. Hey, boo-boo, there's

a Nazi over there.

Paddington Bear wouldn't do

any good. He'd just be eating marmalade

sandwiches. I don't like this.

I'm more passive, like, you know.

He is a bit of a pessimist, isn't he? What other famous

bears are there? Rupert the Bear.

What's Rupert going to do?

Scare them with his fashion sense?

Get my scarf.

and there's probably a ton of other bears

I'd tell you I'd get the bear from that

um

DiCaprio movie

what's that movie called where the bear savages him

you know

you know that one

oh yeah yeah yeah

and then there's the bear Jew which is Ilar Roth's character

in Glorious Bastards

but he's not an actual bear though is he

that's just his name

you've got to have actual bears

well I think

Wojtek beats Paddington

Rupert and Yogi

Hans Dane

yeah

I'd like to see

all those

like in a movie

together

those like

special forces

America

forces

Yogi

Palantino

you guys

okay

go with

the Nazi

but

Spielberg

needs to go

make this

somebody like that

because he made

War Horse

which is a

story about that

yeah and it's

quite a good film

I want to see this

I want to see a film

Bear.

Fighting Nazis.

Mr. Spielberg, we see the movie you're doing.

It's kind of like the other one.

Is it a sequel?

No, it's just a different one.

But we've got to call it War Bear.

But you've done War Horse, yeah?

And afterwards we're going War Monkey.

So, shut up.

Well, there we go.

Bill Murray, if you could lead us out of World of the Strange,

I'll try some of your lasagna for you now.

Slip it in, Dan.

That's all the time we've got for this week on World of the Strange.

Next week, though.

Give me Ira.

Hairless pets.

Stephen, where are you? Please answer me.

Steve!

In this house,

what you don't know

will hurt you.

Ah!

It was to be a getaway dream.

It's becoming a runaway nightmare.

Do you see anything?

Some old steps going down.

He has been awaiting the arrival of his new guests.

One by one they are disappearing.

One by bloody one.

No! No!

No!

When you move to this house,

before you get locked in,

read the sign print.

Mommy, hurry!

You may have just mortified your life.

Due to the graphic nature of this film,

no one under 18 will be admitted.

House by the Cemetery.

The House by the Cemetery from 1981.

Not rated.

Just one hour and 26 minutes.

A New England home is terrorised by a series of murders,

unbeknownst to the guests,

that a gruesome secret is hiding in the basement.

Dun, dun, dun!

So this is the final of the trilogy, of the Gates of Hell trilogy.

This one is memorable for the character Bob,

which we'll certainly be talking about.

and of course

the

Dr. Freudstein

which is slightly like

Frankenstein. Well I'll tell you

one thing, you can see what

Rob Zombie was doing, he's like I need to make a

horror movie, I'm going to call it House of

Thousand Corpses, about a house

of Ascension nearby and there's a Dr.

Freudstein or whatever it's called in

House of Thousand Corpses, straight out

of it, even the look of the thing at the end, you're like that looks

like a Rob Zombie thing, that looks like that Lord

of Salem, actually.

Yeah.

Yeah, and it's, you know,

stay tuned for more gore.

Not as many maggots.

There are some worms in this one.

But this,

okay, I don't want to offend

anybody that likes the band,

but I only did it because I heard

it again yesterday.

Let me have a quick listen.

I hear this band called

Ice Nine Kills.

Ice Nine Kills.

Okay, so

I think it's the second time I've done this now.

I've gone, that sounds quite cool.

All right.

And I go listen to the music.

You go, no, no.

And turn it off straight.

It's just, no, it's just not my sort of thing.

I know it isn't.

I'll go back to Slayer, which I did.

And it's like that.

It sounds like it's good.

It's like this front cover for House by the Cemetery.

You look at it and the idea of House by the Cemetery and the front cover stuff,

it does look like a lot better film.

Towards the end, the end is a lot better than the other film,

where the end struggles a bit.

This is just like batshit like House of Thousand Corpses

at the end of that last 15 minutes.

This is like that.

But like the setup as well,

you feel like it's going to be a lot more external shots

where it's quite contained and it's quite, I don't know.

What do you think of the film?

I like it.

I really like this film.

It's not as good as House by the Cemetery,

sorry, as City of Living Dead,

and it's not as good as The Beyond.

But I feel like it's got some fun things to discuss in it.

Again, around Bob and around another character called Bob.

And I quite like that it's more of a...

It feels almost like a bit of a ghost story to begin with.

Because, you know, obviously with the spooky children

and all the stuff surrounding the house and this weird stuff that's going on.

But then you find out it's less a ghost film in the final act.

and more of a sort of i don't even know how you describe it it's like a scientist a mad scientist

isn't it who's discovered immortality and is a bit of a zombie monster and but then there are some

supernatural elements in it again because his wife is weirdly still alive even though her gravestone

is outside why does that little girl how can she talk to bob through the painting it's all again

lucio fulci it doesn't have to make sense it's just the ride that you go on really and again if

you if you rented this from the video store when you were 15 16 17 18 you wouldn't really be

disappointed there's boobs there's gore i know spookiness i can't be too dismissive of it i was

sort of thrown it away earlier because when i guess when it comes down to it it is the house

but it's actually all inside the house and it happens to be things happen in the basement of

the house. But I don't know

I was just wanting a bit more

exterior shots like we get

in City of the

Dead which obviously you guys will just listen to us

talk about. I want some of those shots

in this. I felt like it could do anything.

But apart of that though it has got everything you kind of want

kind of

it's got some really graphic

gore sequences like really graphic

a lot of blood, a lot of

mutated areas

Yeah

of multiple parts of bodies

just strewn around rooms.

That's loads and loads of gore.

And again,

the reason I'm mentioning this next thing is, again, it's

dubbed, dubbed over.

And the reason I'm mentioning that is because of Bob's

voice. Bob is a little boy in this who was only

seven years old when he was cast in this.

And they dubbed him over with like

a grown man doing, trying to

do his best impression of a child.

That's just weird and creepy. And it's like,

hey, mommy, mommy.

It'd be like me doing it.

It's like my voice now.

Hey, mommy.

For your son.

It's just weird.

It's just weird.

But it adds to the weirdness of the film for me.

And that's kind of what I like about these Italian albums.

Is even the dub.

We could do like a new Vice Versa with you and Jack.

And it's just basically both your voices.

Switched out.

Yeah.

That would be weird, wouldn't it?

One thing with the Lucho Fulci films,

they're always really well shot.

At any point, House of Pires Heretrius,

it's nothing amazing.

It's okay.

But like with these films,

just looking at some of these screenshots here,

just the cinematography is beautiful.

Everything shot really well.

Gorgeous looking in places.

And it's just...

Yeah, and again...

There's a certain style to it all.

We weren't dismissing Murnie with saying

that he's not good.

De Argento is a bit more artistic.

Or anything like that.

Because you look at some of these shots,

they're very, very well lined up and stuff.

I think I'm going with this film.

He had a little bit more leeway or a bit more time or a bit more ease

and felt a bit more freer to craft this film in a way,

even though I feel like it's not as well crafted as the beginning of the other one.

Then I feel like it's rushed.

I don't feel as rushed through this because it all looks just so quite nice, you know.

But what we said was that Argento is more of an artist that makes films,

whereas Fulci is a filmmaker.

So we're not dissing him at all.

He's definitely got great flair when it comes to making films.

And again, because of when these films were made,

they're all on location, so there's no sets or anything.

So he had to find this beautiful house,

quite a spooky, imposing-looking house,

out in the middle of nowhere,

with obviously a fake graveyard attached to it,

and a set of woods where things are going to happen as well.

So the house is...

The house is brilliant.

Yeah, it's quite a good part of it.

I'm just looking at the house now.

There should be a lot more shots of the house.

It's like, have you seen A Legend of Hell House?

Yes, of course.

Monty McDowell.

That has all the time, it goes to shots of the house outside,

and it's just letting you know we're here, then going back inside.

But it's just nice to have those moments of going outside.

I just feel like it missed the opportunity there.

Well, this also stars Ania Pieroni as Anne the Babysitter,

who I believe was also in Demons.

I think she was the blind guy's girlfriend or whoever it was that cheats.

You know when the blind guy's in the cinema and he can't see that his girlfriend

or his assistant is kissing that other guy.

I believe that's her.

I may be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that's her.

So let's start off with opening shot, a graveyard again.

Fantastic.

At night time, and we pan across to the house.

Boobs.

Yep.

We're about 30 seconds in, and we've got boobs.

And where's Steve?

There's a couple that have just finished having noughties.

And, yeah, she's like, Steve, are you dressed?

Steve, Steve.

the other film it was bob bob bob it's like why is the beginning why is it just asking calling out

people beginning of these films the set design is amazing she's looking for this steve guy and

there's cobwebs everywhere and dust the production is brilliant throughout the film and she's looking

around for him and all of a sudden he appears in the doorway an absolutely bloody mess he's been

hacked up but he's still standing but he's he looks like someone's had a go at him with a hedge

trimmer it's like we're 30 minutes into a movie we know exactly what's going on all of a sudden

this is just a scene in the film it's such a weird straight away do you know what i mean it doesn't

feel like an opening shot it feels like we're already in the movie well this kill this opening

kill of for her is amazing it's a real argento kill the brain just sticking out but her kill

She's then, she tries to run away, and someone grabs her, shoves a knife in the back of her head, and the blade comes out of her mouth.

So it goes from the top of her head from behind, goes straight down through her mouth, which is just a fantastically gory graphic and gruesome kill, which, as horror fiends, we kind of like.

And this is about a minute into it, and so then she falls to the floor.

I know.

And somebody drags her body, blood pouring from it, across the floor.

And we cut to the score.

Now, the score for this movie, I believe, is trying to capture that kind of exorcist.

Did you feel like there was some tubular bells-ness to it?

I feel like there was a little bit of an exorcist.

I didn't think of that at any point.

Just felt very goblin-y.

Yeah, it does feel very goblin-y as well, which is not a bad thing.

I love the fact that we've just had the total film tone set straight away.

The movie should be straight away when it comes in.

It kind of sets the tone of what the film is going to be.

Do you know what I mean?

This is straight away like that and you're like, Jesus.

All right, here we go.

Guy with his brains hanging out, girl with a knife through the back of the road.

Just put my seatbelt in, adjust myself.

Okay, here we go.

Yeah, we're a minute in and we've had boobs and two kills.

It's great.

Turn it off now if you want.

We cut to a little kid called Bob.

who, I'm going to say, Bob looks annoying.

Bob's got a massive forehead and weird little blue eyes

that are too close together.

Now, he's a seven-year-old kid, so I shouldn't really be mean,

but fuck me, he's annoying.

You want to have him hanging out of a wheelchair dude

from Texas Chancellor of the Mask.

Oh, Jesus Christ.

Now, or the kid from the Babadook.

Franklin.

Or the kid from the Babadook.

He's another one.

I'd happily punch him in the face, that child.

I know he's got

you know

neurodiversity or whatever it is but my god

that film

I hate the Babadook

I've tried to watch it, I've watched it

twice maybe, tried to watch it a third time

I just can't do it

I just don't like

I didn't like the tone of that film

Now the credits

start playing and we get a black and white

shot of the house

and we zoom in to a woman at the window

in the house and that then transitions into a photograph hanging on the wall of this house

with a woman looking out and bob the weird kid we've discussed is staring in a trance at this

picture on the wall with his little too close together blue eyes yep and his mum comes in she's

like bob bob what are you doing you know we're moving come on you haven't put any of your toys

in the boxes yet and he's not answering her and he goes and he says mommy mommy she's talking to me

the girl in the in the picture and his mom's like what girl and he's like the girl she's telling me

don't go in the house why would she say that to me mom goes over to the painting the picture

there's no girl we saw it just now but she's gone again so this girl for no reason and i don't think

it's really ever explained telepathically reaches out to little bob through a paint through a picture

on the wall to tell him never to come to the house the house that his mom and dad are moving to

for an extended period of time while dad does research so it's not going to end well bob's

already freaking out about it but they pack up they get everything ready and they uh they start

to get ready to move there.

Now, cut back to the house

and we meet May.

It was a spooky little girl.

She's the one from the window

and she's got a giant doll,

a huge dolly, isn't she?

And this film is harder

to keep track of in that

even though City of the Living Dead

cut backwards and forwards

and backwards and forwards,

this film does it almost rapid fire,

doesn't it?

It's hard to keep up with sometimes.

so we might skip some of those

moments where we're cutting backwards and forwards

just for the sake of our poor listeners

sanity

go on

we've got

is it Dr Norbo

is that the dad or the guy

yeah that's the dad Dr Norbo

he's walking along with the director here

which I thought she

yes and they're discussing a project

and he says to him

so you're going to go away and

pick up the research of this project that your dead friend you know was working on he said yes

dr almost says it's so ironic that my friend was working on a research about suicide and ended up

murdering his wife and killing himself but he's not my friend anymore you know after brutally

murdering his wife like that i could never have gone to the funeral i don't want to don't even

want to be associated with him but yes of course i'll go and pick up all of his research of course

I was like, well, that's what I'll do.

So we're setting the tone here.

I love it when someone goes off somewhere to research something.

It's always cool.

I love it when a plane comes together.

I do love it when a plane comes together.

And I love to love you.

All right.

I couldn't think of anything else to fit in there.

Weird.

We meet Dr. Norman's wife, who is Bob's mum.

We've already met her, and obviously Bob.

They're all moving.

Little Bobby.

Yeah, his name's Bob.

But Bob is like a 40, 50, 60-year-old man's name.

It's not a child's name.

I know, because when they're a kid, they're just saying,

Robert, Robert, come here, Robert.

Wouldn't you?

Or Bobby.

Bobby.

Bobby.

You know, Bob.

Bob.

I've got a cousin called Bobby.

That's fine.

It's like calling a dog Dave.

Dave, come here, Dave.

My friend's sister had a dog called Dave.

He's like, Dave, come here, Dave.

Dave.

Dave.

Dave, stop sniffing that groin.

Get over here.

Yeah, but even worse,

like calling a dog like Graham.

Graham.

Graham.

Graham and Dave.

That's such a human name.

Graham and Dave,

get over here now.

But then I've got a daughter called Edith

and a lot of people,

strangers have commented,

why have you given her an old lady's name?

It doesn't matter.

But I think it kind of suits Edith anyway.

So she's an old lady.

Or she might end up changing her name like one of mine did.

She won't change her name.

Ask Jasmine, it's no longer.

I'll just own her.

So, yes, they're all moving.

Bob, his dad, Dr Norman and his mum.

They're all moving to this house.

We don't know how long for to pick up the research.

And the house that they're moving to is, of course, the house by the cemetery.

So it's all kicking off.

Now, we cut back to Boston, I think,

and May, the little girl that we saw earlier,

she's staring in the window of a shop with some mannequins.

And one of the mannequins has got a very realistic face.

We later will meet Anne, the babysitter, who has the same face.

But she sees the mannequin suddenly get beheaded,

and all of this gore comes out of its neck.

It's a very strange shot.

It's just a set up.

I don't even know what it's to set up.

It's to set something up.

Obviously, she's going to be beheaded later on in the film.

But who is this Anne girl?

Not Anne.

Who is this May girl?

What is she?

This is my only problem with this film.

We don't really know much about her powers.

No.

Her psychic link.

No.

Her visions.

At least in the other film, it was just like it was a seance.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's really simple.

Yeah, this was a bit like...

there's a bit more mental work going on here so mum and dad say to bob right we're going to leave

you in the car on your own we're going to go into the estate agency and pick up the keys for the

house uh so they get there and they say oh welcome to new to to new whitney uh you hope you enjoy

your stay here you've been here before and dr norman says nope i've i've never been here before

and this isn't the first time this will happen to a few people in the town oh you've been here before

I'm sure you came to visit here before.

And he's like, I've never been here before.

So there's a bit of a good little spooky vibe going on here.

Bob's sat in the car playing with his little red car,

making his little noises,

and he looks out the window and he hears a voice.

Now, there's two changes before I was like,

right, it's either A, it's his imagination,

which is going to explain how he can hear a voice

all the way over the road with the window shut in the car,

or B, it's a ghost.

And pushing her conversation into his mind.

Or she's like a psychic,

like she's like Eleven from Stranger Things, maybe.

Ah, good choice.

Yeah.

You know, she could be like Carrie or something.

Either way, we're not really,

it's not fully explained.

I'm sure if you really delved into it,

you would find it.

I'm assuming it doesn't matter.

I'm assuming, again.

Yeah, I think you're probably right.

The priest was a ghost last time.

So is this our priest, essentially?

Is this our priest ghost?

Well, no, it's not.

It's not the antagonist, is it?

So I guess not.

She says, Bob, I've been expecting you.

And he says, oh, hello, hello.

And she says, I told you not to come here.

Bad things are going to happen now.

He's like, oh, shit.

At the end, spoiler, we're going to get to the end of this film anyway,

but we're going to spoil it.

There's a bit where right at the end of the last bits

is where he's walking off of her.

And a woman taken away.

Yeah, I guess.

So he's like a ghost as well.

So that, I would say, is she is definitely a ghost.

yeah

okay thank you for that because

sometimes you need somebody else to sort of help you to understand

I have seen this film a couple of times

I always need someone to help me

that's why I have to watch some of these movies with Sarah

Sarah what's going on I have to review this film

by the way I've totally forgot

to mention just going back to City of the Living Dead

the first time I ever saw it

yep

was at your house

I actually got rid of my copy research

I don't know why actually

you weren't there

you weren't there your children weren't there oh okay your wife was there and she said i've got

to go and run some errands and i said great i'm gonna grab one of gab's films she said yeah yeah

go for it and you'd already said to me just help yourself to so i grabbed that film because i'd

never seen it and i think your wife came back your your ex-wife now came back during the maggot storm

scene if I remember rightly. Oh really?

She was like, what the fuck are you watching?

I was like, this is brilliant.

That was like my first

watch of it. So I just wanted to mention that.

I forgot to do it.

Okay, so.

I've got a little tiddly spider.

Took a picture.

Crawling right in front of me.

I'm just watching him do it.

Off you go, buddy.

He's a little tiddly thing. Sorry, he's put me off.

Sorry, Lucia Fulci?

I think you'll appreciate it in a review of a spider on a web.

Cruel's past.

So mum and dad have got the keys, they come back out,

and Bob's not in the car anymore.

Bob? Bob?

Where could he be?

And then they find him, sat on the grass,

playing with this giant doll.

Oh, that's all right, he's there.

It's about the same size as him.

Yeah.

And he says, Mummy!

And I'll try my best impression.

Mommy, I saw the girl, the girl from the picture.

And she's like, oh, fucking not this again, Bob.

Bugsy.

Where'd you get this doll from, your nutbag?

Speaking very much, just a quick sidestep here.

Daisy and I discovered near the kid's house when I stayed there,

we found a car boot sale real close by, and it's all year round.

And today was, like, cold, proper, proper cold.

Like, my car was frozen.

And we went, I was like, it ain't ten minutes away,

let's go see if it's on.

And it was on in the car park.

And anyway, Daisy found a doll about a foot and a half.

And she wanted that and got that.

I was just wondering if it's haunted.

Yeah.

It's proper creepy looking.

We're getting, well, Santa is getting Edith one of these life-like baby dolls.

Right.

Because she played with one recently at a play cafe.

And I thought she was holding a real baby at one point.

and I was thinking, oh, fuck, he just got someone's baby out of the ramen.

Then I realised it was just one of these dolls that just looked so real.

So I'm going to be very uncomfortable about this arriving in the post any day now.

And obviously it's going to have to go up in the attic with all the other kids' toys.

We've come for you, Dan.

Honestly.

And then when she opens it on Christmas Day, she's going, oh, Daddy, look at my doll.

I'll be like, get it away from me.

Burn it.

I can't wait.

Burn it.

Daddy, why do you speak like that to Annie?

Rosie.

it'll be called Rosie

she calls all of her dolls

and Teddy's Rosie

so it'll be Rosie

Rosie 1

Rosie 2

Rosie 3

they're just all Rosie

Rosie 7

says Rosie 4

hurt her

what?

if I wake up in the night

and that Rosie doll

is sat at the end of the bed

staring at me

I'm just gonna be like

I'm

if I remember working in Bristol

and I do work in Bristol

like the other day

I worked in Bristol

I was like

hi dad how you doing

and I had to just go to work

and get that was it

and I wasn't even drunk

I couldn't even come visit you

anyway

I was at a farm anyway.

Yeah, I might have to just one time just break into your house.

Just to do that, then break out again.

Love it.

Yeah.

I won't think you're a doll, though.

You're a bit bigger than a doll.

I'm not going to...

I'll put the doll in at the end of your bed.

I'm not going to pretend to be a doll.

That's weird.

Anyway.

You'll be like, why are you on the side of my bed, Gav?

I'm a doll.

I'm a doll.

I'm a little doll.

I'll be like, yes, all my dreams have come true.

Gab's a little doll

um

that was a weird dream

they just go to the house

with Bob

they don't tell him off

we're going running out

on his own

and they let him bring

this big doll with them

they arrive at the house

and the wife says

hmm

she's getting a bit

a bit of a weird sense

she says

this is the house

from that photo

on your wall in New York

isn't it

and he says

oh

it could be

these houses all look the same

don't be silly

and she's like

okay

So his wife's picking up on the weird supernatural darkness

of this house already.

Obviously, Bob's already tuned into it.

And he says, let's just unpack.

And he also notices that the cellar door has been nailed shut.

Yep.

So that's another little spooky thing there as well.

A bit like the glory hole in Ghostwatch.

Shout out to Michael Parkinson.

Shout out to the glory hole.

Shout out to, what was he called?

Pipes in the glory.

Yeah, pipes in the glory.

The ghosty glory hole.

Get your pipes out my glory hole.

Write that title down.

The ghosty glory hole.

Sounds like a pub.

It's Dan Aykroyd in Ghostbusters.

Sounds like a pub.

Getting sucked off by a ghost.

I'm going down the ghosty glory hole for a pint.

Dan Aykroyd's behind the bar.

They've got some creamy beer.

He only serves his skull vodka.

That's all he serves.

So, Bob plays with his car.

lucy the wife is still feeling more and more uneasy and norman is just there for his research

and he's actually quite not a nice guy actually because he says to his wife

just take your goddamn pills if you're not feeling happy about this take your pills proper 1981

husband just like in the last film as soon as the son showed any signs of trauma get him some pills

and the same here he's like you need to keep taking your pills lucy she's like oh those things give

me hallucinations i don't want to take them then they hear a noise that sounds like crying and

setting that up with the hallucinations and the pills um is kind of just setting it up for us for

uh the doc the guy to basically be like you know i think you've got issues more pills more pills

more pills will stop this so he he's already has a sense of not believing her if she says she sees

stuff yeah because he's a scientist he's a psychiatrist or a psychologist or whatever he is

He does research and he sees black and white. He doesn't believe in the sort of supernatural

or any that kind of stuff so

And especially as he feels like she has some whatever issue

Pills not gonna help she's not taking enough. That's what he thinks the answer is the problem is

So he walks out the room and all of a sudden this woman just appears in the kitchen and

Just stares right into Lucy's soul and also into the camera and this is and the creepy babysitter

it's the babysitter it's like wow you're so creepy why why what's going on with you you know

she's kind of hot though as well yeah now she's obviously we now the audience think oh my god

you're the mannequin that that we saw in a vision get beheaded how strange that you look just like

that mannequin they set across that she's evil as shit yeah night time comes and lucy is asleep

norman's doing his research he hears more noise and again we we keep hearing what sounds like a baby

crying but a bit like a bit distorted it's just a very creepy sound so he investigates he goes

around looking because he thinks is that bob is that my little shit of a son crying and he goes

no no bob's asleep it's not him then he hears some creaking floorboards and some sounds and

he goes down into the kitchen and he finds

Anne, the creepy babysitter

trying to break into the cellar

now this has never really addressed

what was happening here

I thought I'd miss something, I was about to say

I wanted to say to you, it cuts

what happens, I was like question mark Dan

what happens, I thought I missed something

he doesn't say anything

it just cuts

he's never said to his wife, I caught Anne

trying to break into the basement

because later on she's freaked out about going

into the basement but why is she here is she drawn to it we if that's the case we need to have shots

of inside the cellar and something glowing or something to indicate that do you know what i mean

why why why is she doing this yeah it's weird little plot hole there maybe um next day they

all go to the village and norman um goes to meet some someone who has some information on his friend

who killed himself whose research he's picking up and he says to him yes you visited him last year

didn't you with your son with your daughter and norman says no i i have a son and no i didn't

visit him last year and he said no no i'm sure it was you and he says i've never been here before

and he's thinking why does everyone think i've been to this village before this is very strange

and again this is never really picked up it just more adds to the the weirdness of

and the paranoia, I guess,

of what's going on.

So he goes into

the sort of library

in the office of the little village

and this is where he meets

Daniel the Dweeb, as I've called him.

Daniel the Dweeb?

Danny the Dweeb?

He is Danny the Dweeb?

He is the fucking biggest dweeb

of them all.

And he's like,

oh yes, hello.

Dr. Peterson's notes

some research and books are all here at your disposal and the other guy says oh if you need

anything daniel can help he knows where all the books are he knows where all the papers are and

all the files he's got everything and daniel's like i'm at your disposal anytime you need

he's just such a fucking dweeb but bob's worse don't get me wrong but daniel is a dweeb so daniel

the dweeb so he shows him where everything is and then he turns to him and says by the way

do you know that he hung himself from right there on that railing and it's like this is your friend

why are you telling me that he hung himself from that railing right next to my head thanks daniel

the dweeb but he's a bit of a he's a bit gets off on it a little bit i think doesn't he yeah

so there we go so bob is cut to bob bob is exploring the woods and the forests around the

house the new house that will be living for a while and he finds a tombstone that reads

mary freudstein on it frankenstein frankenstein uh mary freudstein and may shows up

the little girl and he's not freaked out oh my little ghostly friends here great

and she says uh bob you know that she's not actually buried there right

and he's like what do you mean she's like she's not she's not in her grave she's not buried there

Which kind of ties into the ending, really,

because is she a ghost? Is she a mortal?

I don't really know.

It doesn't matter.

It's a Fulcher movie.

Norman is reading up on Freudstein, though,

and he's finding out some disturbing things about experiments that he,

illegal experiments that he went on.

It basically veered off track.

He was supposed to be studying suicide,

and he ended up reading more and more about Dr. Freudstein,

which now Norman is now reading about.

And House of Thousand Corpses is Dr. Wolfenstein.

Wolfenstein.

Wolfenstein was the name of the video game.

Do you remember that video game where you went around shooting Nazis?

It's like Doom.

I got it one of them the other day,

because I just finished a big Nazi podcast,

and it talks about it.

Yeah, Wolfenstein.

Wolfenstein 3D, I think it was called.

So, Lucy, very casually, in her hallway,

thinks oh i'm just going to pick up this rug and then she discovers that there's a great big

fucking tombstone embedded in the floor of her hallway with weird symbols all over it that also

says freudstein on it and uh while she's sort of looking at this and freaking out about it she

hears the noises the doors start rattling she's just moaning she screams she screams

Norman gets home

a bit later on now

what is this then

is this like a

a polkaist type scenario

couldn't tell you

it must be like that

it feels like it's a ghost story

yeah are they the ghosts of the people

that Dr Freudstein's killed

I don't know it's like paranormal activity

like a demon there you know

that sort of thing

because I get a bit of an evil dead vibe to this as well

in that.

But that's an evil

which has been summoned.

But I feel like

there's evil in the house

because of Dr. Fraudstein's

terrible experiments.

So he just,

his darkness just

has always been in the house

all the time.

Alistair Crowley,

that kind of thing,

you know.

And so they just moved

into that situation.

Amityville.

I feel like this is

trying to be Amityville.

That's exactly what it is.

I feel like Forgey thought

I'm going to make my own

version of Amityville.

Okay.

But I'm going to throw in a zombie Frankenstein bomb.

A crazy thing in the basement.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That's what this is, isn't it?

And have a basement as the root of all the evil.

That's what this is.

A family moving to a house which is completely fucked.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Solved it.

And the crazy thing in the basement,

the darkness of that soul or whatever,

is pushing out the evil to the house.

We've cracked it.

Even the ghosts.

So Norman gets home a bit later on and he cannot find Lucy.

And he does find her.

Eventually she's crying behind a chair in the living room.

And obviously he's going to be like,

she hasn't taken her pills, has she?

That's what he's going to be thinking.

Yeah, because later on she wakes up all happy and smiling.

And he gives her a cuddle.

And then he looks over with a little smile on his face.

And we see all the pills.

So either he's forcibly given her these or persuaded her to take her pills.

But either way, she's had her pills.

And he says to her...

That's what I'm saying.

That sounds so evil the way you did that.

Either way, she had her pills.

All right.

Either way, she took her pills.

Skip it to Bob and Bob, take your pills.

Yeah, it sounds so evil the way you did that.

And then what happened?

Either way, she took her pills.

Skip it to Bob and Bob, eat your chocolate pudding.

This is true.

then he says to her,

Lucy, I'm glad you're awake.

I've got something that might cheer you up.

Let's open the cellar door.

Let's see why they barricaded it up.

And she's like, oh, great idea, Norman.

Let's go.

So they go down there,

and they're trying to unlock it.

If you fuck it, well, no, you might not.

I would.

Me and Sarah would be fucking,

get that fucking hammer

and get those planks off of there.

But I'd be a bit behind you two.

I'll be there with a hammer and a torch.

I'd let you two go first.

I'd be standing at the back.

You know what I'm like?

I'd be fucking mad for it.

Get me down there.

So they're just about to unlock it or try and unlock it.

When Bob comes in,

Mommy, Daddy,

in his weird dubbed voice,

I saw my girlfriend again.

I didn't realise this.

Girlfriend.

I wish I realised his voice situation.

He says, I saw my girlfriend again.

And they're like, girlfriend.

I actually had a girlfriend when I was like four at first school.

Okay.

It's the one that sat on my lap and peed on me,

then told the teachers I'd peed myself.

And I got told off.

Yeah, it's really bad.

Bitch.

I'd have to ask my mum about that.

What was her name again?

I did not read.

Jane Moore.

Fuck you.

Fuck you, Jane.

Fuck you, Jane.

Imagine if she listens.

If she's listening, that's incredible.

Like, you know.

Hello, how you doing?

Are you pissing on people still?

Probably is.

Maybe it's a thing.

i'm only fans god we've really ripped this girl apart it's just a girl having an accident at the

age of four but whatever she planned it that's why it's so it's like how manipulative are you at four

years old or like no she's probably like five or six but how manipulative are you to do it go i need

to pee myself but i can't probably go to the toilet gav do you want to come over here and sit on my

lap that's what happened sat on her lap and she just peed on me no she said can i sit on your

lap and i went yeah absolutely sat on my lap and peed on me that's a weird thing isn't it there was

a there was a girl in my first school called kelly england we're actually we're giving the

full names here we're getting sued she um did this thing to me she did it to a lot of the boys where

she'd say oh i want to do something to you let me show you something and she'd make you turn around

so you add your back to her.

Then she'd tell you to stand with your feet

like two feet apart.

And then she'd just kick as hard as she could.

So she was kicking in the nuts,

but from behind.

And she was going around.

She caught me,

and she got loads of the boys in the school.

She just thought it was the best thing ever.

And she did this over about two weeks.

She got almost all the boys.

Because she would come up to you.

We were about seven or eight.

She'd be like,

Dan!

Why did this not be stopped?

I don't understand.

I don't know

it was the 80s

the teacher's just like

whatever

she might have been a teacher

to be honest

she

she has issues

yeah

what a bitch

she's probably a serial killer

but I never got peed on

so that's fine

yeah it's weird

anyway

Bob's ignored

when he tells them

he's doing his girlfriend again

they're like

fuck you Bob

we're trying to get into

this basement

so let's see if we can get in here

so Norman

and Anne

the babysitter

exchange a weird look.

And I thought, because I've only seen

this maybe once or twice before, I thought,

are they having some kind of an affair?

Because they really exchange a look,

don't they? Anyway. It's that old

stereotype, having an affair with the babysitter.

Which in the last

Chucky movie we covered, they really flipped that,

didn't they? That was brilliant, because it was a lesbian

affair with the babysitter. Didn't Arnie do that?

Arnie?

I was fortunate to go and have a kid

with the babysitter.

The nurse.

oh i don't know someone not a nurse nanny nanny maybe it's the nanny um so they they they find

the key and they try to open the basement door but it's rusted shut so he gets a knife norman and

he shoves it into the key and he uses that to lever it enough that it does finally open

the door creaks open and we are treated to a very dark very creepy stairway down into the cellar

very classic it's a bit sam raimi like i say good stuff it looks good he says right well you and

bob and ann will wait up there and i'll go down on my own with a torch to see what's in this basement

excuse me now on his way down he finds a ring and this is a ring from the girl with the

in the opening shot

because there was a very quick shot

where it focused on her ring.

So that's the ring from the girl

with the boobs that got killed.

And then he's attacked

by a fucking bat.

I love this bit.

This scene's fucking brilliant.

It's great.

Let's hope that this bat

doesn't carry any diseases

of any kind.

Because once the dad starts

to his under,

he's going to start stabbing the bat

because it's biting him

and it's stabbing him

and stabbing him.

blood goes everywhere hit bob the kid has bat blood all over his face there is blood everywhere

they are getting diseases all over the place not to mention he's just been bitten by the bat so the

bat's blood is now going into his blood oh yeah it's everywhere it's fucking everywhere

to take a step back then this this bat comes out of a hole in the wall attacks norman um it lands

in lucy's hair then flies back onto norman and bites his hand and it will not let go of his hand

so he runs up the stairs in full view of his seven-year-old son grabs a carving knife and

proceeds to stab this bat umpteen times until it finally dies and falls on the floor and as you

just said blood is going everywhere bob gets a face full of blood you know how is he gonna traumatize

a child by killing an animal in front of him the blood splashing all over you it's just mental

and uh yeah so blood is all over the kitchen and um great scene you don't get many bats in films

no i love seeing a bat in a film

bats with lou dom and phillips the estate agency after they speak to him he does say to his boss

oh this freud steenhouse is causing nothing but trouble anytime we get tenants in there they

they have issues they complain they want to move out she says don't forget we don't call it that

anymore we don't call it the freud's you know so they almost all will know the secret or the dark

secret of this you're just trying to sell it without fucking you know trying to sell it so

keep the secrets at bay uh we see another little shot of may the little girl again surrounded by

dolls in a strange room and there's a strange woman talking to her and um she says mommy i don't know

she says maybe but she says i don't know why people keep coming to this house why do they keep coming

i've warned him and he's still here so are they ghosts from what you're saying i think they're

ghosts i think so okay cool so mrs wheatley the stage agent we've just talked about she decides

to come and visit the house when she gets there there's no one there um she uh she sees the yeah

she goes inside and she

sees the tombstone thing on the floor

yeah then her foot

goes through the floor

it breaks and falls down and almost rips her

foot off yeah and then she just starts to get

stabbed up yeah

but we don't see a hand we don't see what it is

yeah several

times very bloody good effects

a lot of the killing in this we just

do we don't see what it is doing

it we just see a hand

we don't see what it is

too later but i think is a is a missed opportunity actually i think they should have just shown it

because it's terrifying their person they've got how it looks you know yeah i mean i think they

should have shown it because it's that'd be like oh my god you'd be freaked out what the hell that

is you see the hands you see the gnarly horrible hands yeah i think showing them rather than just

that that's rubbish otherwise do the pov thing or even just show a little little bit more of it each

time like a smile of the mouth flash wide flash of it stabbing but like that thing that you'd be

what the fuck is that and then cut would be more terrifying because the creature design is really

good really original it's really wasted to have it just at the end and i understand why i did it

because it sort of goes batshit crazy she's like what the hell it's totally amped up but

there's other things amp it up at the end and that's how i feel like you should definitely

showing this.

Yeah.

Well, after she's killed

brutally,

she's then seen

having her body

being dragged

across the floor

into the cellar,

leaving a trail

of blood behind her.

And in the morning,

Anne, the creepy babysitter,

is cleaning up the blood.

Now, I assume she thinks

she's cleaning up

the bat's blood.

Oh, yeah, yeah.

But,

it's a lot of blood

to come out of

a tiny little bat.

Actually, it was fucking

all over the place.

Everybody's got diseases.

COVID everywhere.

Now Lucy says,

what are you doing, Anne?

She's like, I'm just cleaning up.

And Lucy says,

I'm just going to have a coffee then,

if that's right.

And Anne just sort of stares at her very strangely.

Doesn't say anything to her.

So Lucy thinks very odd.

So she goes into her husband, Norman,

and says, that Anne is a weirdo.

She calls her a weirdo.

And he says, yeah, she's certainly very strange.

In his head, he's thinking,

she's quite hot.

I think that's what he's thinking.

And he says, you know something?

Is that what you were thinking?

Yeah.

He says, you know, Lucy, I've discovered that my dead friend Peterson's research,

he was reading up upon somebody called Dr. Freudstein,

who lived in this house and did illegal experiments in here.

And I think that's what drove him over the edge.

She says, what are you going to do about it?

He says, I'm going to go back to New York to follow up on a hunch.

She says, OK, fine.

So he said, I think his suicide is connected to this research.

So off I go.

He chats to Daniel the dweeb, who's acting very strange back in the office.

And he's like, oh, you've come back.

I didn't realise you'd be coming back today.

He says, what are you doing in here?

And he said, I'm just tidying up Dr. Freudstein's research.

Again, we don't understand Daniel the Dweeb's connection to all of this either.

No, no.

It is a bit discharging.

There's loose ties, for sure.

I wonder if it is either just stuff they couldn't film,

and it's like, from the script, fuck it.

But also, I do think sometimes some of these directors,

like these Italian directors, are sometimes quite loosey-goosey with,

they don't really care as long as it looks good,

and in their head, that's the film that they wanted to make.

Yeah.

Because even some of the Argento stuff doesn't quite tie in and make sense.

But we just kind of go with the ride because of how it looks and sounds.

I don't know.

Bob and May are playing chase in the forest.

That's the next shot we see.

And they're running around the woods having a great time.

And he says, I'll go back in.

I told mum I was asleep napping.

So I'll run back in the house and go back to my room.

And I thought, as he's running back into the house,

The back of his coat is covered in leaves and mud.

His mum's going to know he wasn't napping in his bed.

No.

That's a little shit.

Not a fan of Bob.

Now, you're like the next scene.

Because Norman discovers a tape, a cassette.

And we all like these kind of scenes in films, to be honest.

And he plays this.

And this is why I feel a bit Evil Dead.

Yeah.

and it's a tape of dr peterson his friend who killed himself saying i think i'm losing my mind

i think it's the house the evil is in the house it's doomed and he's just going on and on and on

about dr freudstein and the research and eventually because it reminded me a bit of um session uh nine

as well yeah yeah uh session nine yeah yeah yeah that is the film the tapes are the sessions so

is listening to all the sessions,

session one,

session two,

session three,

leading up to it,

which I watched again recently,

which I covered for one of my birthday episodes,

which is a very,

very fantastic film,

if you haven't seen it,

all about really one guy's mental breakdown,

that's all the film's about,

nothing else.

Slightly spoiling that there for you,

but...

I've not gone back to it since we covered it,

and I probably should,

now that I know the outcome.

Yeah.

So,

he listens to this tape,

Norman,

and he decides to burn it.

He sets it on fire.

Because he thinks, I don't think anyone else should listen to this.

I don't know why he does that.

Well, it shows just parts.

As we're hearing it, we're then visually showing just,

oh, is it the same body parts over here?

Do we see the body parts?

Yeah, we see it on the table.

We see it there.

Like, there are body parts everywhere.

And they're screaming, saying, not the children, not the children.

Just loads of weird stuff.

And blood pouring all over the tombstone.

Yeah, so I feel like this is kind of evil-deaded Dr. Freud's scene.

It's kind of resurrected him.

I don't know, maybe not.

You can take any interpretation, really.

No, I think he's just listening to some of it.

Yeah.

Bob is looking for his toy car in the house.

And Anne is looking for Bob.

She can't find him anywhere.

And she thinks she hears him crying in the cellar.

So she looks in the cellar and she gets locked in.

Bob hears her screaming and she's going,

Bob, open the door, help me.

And as she's screaming and trying to call for him,

someone with a knife is coming up the cellar steps to get her.

But we don't see what it is.

It's okay, a little bit of attention here

because having a staircase rising to it is quite a good thing.

It's been done a million times in films.

But again, I still think we should see it.

It'd be good.

But what is good is the kill, because she gets her throat cut, but...

It's really graphic, isn't it?

It's really...

They really carve up her neck.

It's obviously fake.

Do you know what I mean?

When you watch this, you know it's obviously fake.

It's like, well, it's obviously a fake neck.

It's rather than, like, really good practical.

You can see it's obviously a fake neck.

But it's really graphically done.

They've gone so over the top, slicing into it, loads of gashes.

Normally, it's one slice.

It's just all over.

It's like the shape.

This is like three, four, five, six.

It's like a letter Z or something.

Yeah, it's really cutting her up.

Really big spaces with loads of blood everywhere.

To the point that, obviously, we will find out she's going to be beheaded.

That's how much of a throat slashing she got.

So Bob sees the cellar door open now,

and he thinks, Anne, are you down there?

So he heads down the stairs, and he gets to the bottom of the stairs,

and then he hears, do-do-do-do-do.

And he looks around, and Anne's head is rolling down the steps.

And it's a really good fake head, isn't it?

It's a really good practical effect.

Yeah.

That kid is fucking traumatized for shit.

He's fucked up for life.

He is a serial killer in the making.

He's seen his dad murder a bat in front of him,

and now he's watched his babysitter's head roll down the stairs.

Fucking hell.

And he's talking to a ghost girl.

poor kid lucy comes home his mum and she can't find anyone anywhere she hears some crying

and she finds bob in his bedroom what's the matter bob they cut off ann's head they cut it off and

she's like that's not what you want to hear from your kid is it jesus christ well who's what do

you mean they cut off ann's head in the cellar right come on so she takes him down in the cellar

prove it to me

so he goes down there with her

obviously there's nothing to see

no head

and she says are you pulling a trick on me

Bobby

come on that's not funny

he's visibly shaking

he's just seen his babysitter's head

rolling down the stairs

talking of things kids say

I know you've told me

a few things in the past when your kids were younger

the other day Jack was sitting on Alice's lap

mummy I want to kill you

oh yeah yeah

and she went

don't say that, that's weird

and he went mummy

I want to kill you

and then he just changed the subject

let's play some Legos now

he doesn't understand, he's just hearing it

he doesn't even know what that means

Netflix

on the phone

make a documentary in 25 years

uh yeah so she thinks bobby's pranking her obviously we know he's not norman is currently

in the graveyard back in new york and he's looking for dr freudstein's grave and there's a guy there

says everybody comes here looking for that grave um i don't know why everybody's obsessed with it

again the more i talk about this film the less it's tied together so well it's an interesting

watch and a fun watch but the plot is all over the place isn't it yeah it is it is um bob goes

back to the cellar um and he says ann are you down here mummy said you're not dead and it was a joke

uh he goes down the stairs and we see these terrifying scary eyes in the dark

yellow eyes penetrating the darkness

looking at him. He sees them

obviously. Yeah that is really

fucking creepy though isn't it? Those eyes.

I love seeing it. It doesn't

really they don't

they don't actually

have any emotion from it

they don't know or say anything or mention

it really. It's then kind of cuts it.

Is that just for the audience to see? That's what I thought.

Later on they do. They see it again obviously

but at that point the eyes are just there

then it's not then they. Do you know what I mean?

Well, he runs back up the stairs and says,

Mommy, Mommy, someone's down here with me.

Oh, then it obviously does.

Yeah, but the door's locked.

So she's trying to use a knife to open the door like they did earlier,

but the blade snaps.

And he says, Mommy, they're coming to get me.

Norman gets home and he's like, what's going on?

She says, Bob's trapped in the basement.

Something's down there with him.

So he goes full on Jack Torrance.

He grabs an axe.

And he starts trying to smash through the door.

Now, we do...

Go on.

We have the hand of our monster antagonist

come into shot and push his head against the door

where his dad says,

move your head away, I'm going to axe through the door

so we know what's going to happen.

It's a nice little set-up.

It's like the other movie earlier on

when it was a really nice set-up.

It's just nice little...

A fun thing to write when you're writing a script

go oh look at that what if he pushes it up oh god yeah especially because this is a child

it's a bit of tension isn't it yeah yeah dad's trying to smash the door down just like the like

you said like the pickaxe into the coffin um and he says for god's sakes lucy this is norman the dad

it's dr freudstein he's in the basement with bob so his research has led him to discover that dr

freudstein is somehow in their basement um so they get in they cut the door down and they go in and

bob is bob is thrown down the stairs by dr freudstein but but he did but uh bob doesn't actually get uh

um luckily the kid doesn't get the axe for the head but he does the doctor does get his head

had chopped off he does yeah now i wonder if bob died at this point if we're saying he's a ghost

Well, it's weird, because this thing, not Bob, sorry, but I don't know, yeah, very true, actually.

It could have been like a ghost, like the movie, you know.

And then the monster's crying, and the monster's cry is basically like five or six children layered,

there's multiple layers, and it's really odd.

I don't really like it myself as a sound designer.

It's like Black Christmas, isn't it?

Yeah, Black Christmas is pretty good, though, that's just talking stuff.

But as a sound designer, I don't like this.

Yeah, well, he reveals himself at this point now.

He creeps out of the shadows.

Now, how would you describe this Dr. Freudstein and Gov?

He's...

A Rob Zombie movie.

It almost looks like the priest thing in Lords of Salem.

It's just kind of got a waxy kind of...

I guess I can't find a picture to describe it better.

He looks a bit like the Scarecrow in the Christopher Nolan Batman movies.

But like that, what was that zombie Nazi movie from like the 70s or the early 80s?

The one with the poster that's got the zombie Nazi coming out of the lake.

Zombie Lake it's called.

Zombie Lake, yeah.

Yeah, it's a bit like that.

It's got basically like a big like coat which goes across like, I don't know,

like a big double-breasted coat with buttons up on the side.

and then the face is kind of like,

it kind of like a withered up Sultana or something.

It is.

Because there's no eyes.

You can see the eyes, but there's no nose.

There's a shape for nose, but not nose,

and there's no mouth.

It's sealed up.

It's very Rob Zombie, House of Thousand Corpses,

or Lords of Salem, if you've seen that.

It's really great and quite shocking,

and I can understand why they wanted to save this

for the final moment.

Yeah, totally, but at the same time, been good seeing it earlier.

Yeah, really, really looks great.

And as soon as we see this reveal,

we also then find there are body parts strewn all over the basement,

including Anne's head, corpses.

I think there's a child down there that's been eviscerated.

It's just there's body parts absolutely everywhere.

and norman then says to us the audience but to his wife and son as well you see he needs human

victims to renew his cells that was the experiment he was working on so i don't know if he eats them

like a zombie or if he just takes their blood and injects it to him i really don't know what it is

he does we don't get told that but then norman goes straight into a fight with dr freudstein

um dr freud he stabs freudstein with a with a knife and like spaghetti bowl and spaghetti bolognese

and maggots comes out, it looks like.

It's disgusting.

It's got to be maggots.

It's got to be maggots.

And just when you think he's going to win,

Norman's throat is ripped out by Dr. Freud's team,

but just his bare hand, he rips it out.

Yeah.

And this is in front of his son.

Again, trauma.

That kid's bomb is fucked.

He's seen the bat.

He's seen his beheaded babysitter, Dr. Freud's team,

and now his dad.

He's probably going to be an alcoholic

and then he'd jump in front of a train.

him and his mum tried to escape

up through that tombstone

that was in the floor upstairs

his mum can't get up

he can't fit

there's the hole

really slowly the doctor just shuffling its way

forward

baby cries

so Lucy

is grabbed she's pulled down the steps

what's happened to the dad

he's just had his throat ripped out

I love the shot

of lucy being grabbed by the ankle and pulled down the steps and the camera tracks her head as she

bangs her head on every single step all the way down yeah bang bang bang bang it's like christ

that's gonna hurt yeah um bob manages to squeeze out through the hole in the ceiling like through

the tombstone he is grabbed but thankfully ghostly girl may grabs him and pulls him out the other end

so he manages to escape but i think he's dead because um it turns out that the woman that's

been talking to the girl may the whole time is actually mrs freudstein the grave the woman who

supposedly is buried outside so i've written a note here is she immortal is she a ghost when i

think you've answered i think she is a ghost yeah she is um but very quickly just going back to

when the kids there the tension here is very very good with the the doctor going towards him after

has been dragged and the kid trying to get out.

It was really good tension.

I thought it was decent.

It's interesting that the final 20 minutes

are really, really good.

Yeah, yeah.

It's funny. It does push it up a lot more.

And then at the end, you've got that

shot of the house with the credits just rolling on it.

It's very 70s horror.

And that shot of the house is brilliant.

It's like, we should have seen more of that.

And the lady,

Mrs. Roystein,

takes the two children by the hands

walks off down the road with them.

Yeah.

So, yeah.

But why was she,

she should have intervened earlier,

maybe it helped them out.

I don't know.

Maybe because she's,

she can.

Or the kid could have guided them more

to not go to the,

I don't know,

it seemed like a side thing

which didn't really give any more purpose

to the fact that they're just there.

I suppose,

I suppose she is the dead wife

because he killed his wife.

We know this.

So I,

I presume she is the ghost of

freudstein's wife and the daughter they were trying to warn bob not to get there through the picture

um they were trying to be like guardian angels don't come here don't come here there's bad bad

voodoo here you know don't come here don't come here and then eventually unfortunately maybe bob

died then so yeah i'm gonna take that that's interesting that you've made me realize perhaps

Bob dies and everybody dies

oh yeah everyone dies

and that's the end

it's incredibly atmospheric

so is the doctor trying to get a ghost

at the end

Bob's already a ghost

no because he's with the mum for sure

he's still alive then

yeah but then he walks off down the road with a ghost though

yeah unless he's not

but the ghost is taken

I don't know

he goes to live with the ghost

he's like fucking Tarzan living with the apes

I don't know

Lucio Fulci's endings are...

This one makes more sense and is a better ending.

Yeah.

It's a great film.

It's not as good as City of the Living Dead,

but it's a great film with some great kills and some great visuals.

Unfortunately, having chatted through it with you over the last, however,

I've realised there's a lot of plot holes.

And actually, it's almost like Fauci didn't care.

He just had his idea for these scenes he wanted to get on screen

and stitched them together.

It might be reasons, like budget reasons, time reasons.

Had to cut shit out.

But the upsides are definitely the gore

and the creature design is incredible in this.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's cool.

And the last 20 minutes is brilliant.

And it's not often, most of the time we review a film,

We say the last 20 minutes is the worst.

And it runs out of steam.

But this picks up all of its steam.

Imagine if the whole film was like the 20 minutes at the end.

Which is kind of like the Untouchables.

Where that was just...

You know?

Good set pieces all day long.

Anyway, do I give it a thumbs up?

I guess it's worth a watch for the ending, towards the ending.

It's not something you need to revisit lots of times.

When you've seen it, you've seen it.

But I suppose you might go back to it if you're like,

oh, fuck it, I'm going to watch it.

I give it a thumbs up,

but if you have never seen Fortune movies before,

I wouldn't bother with it.

I'd say watch The Beyond.

I'd say watch City of the Living Dead,

Zombie 2, Cat and the Brain,

you know, Man, Hat and Baby, New York Ripper.

This one you could watch, yeah, if you're a completist.

It's good, and I'll give it a thumbs up,

but Fulci's done better.

If you're a completist,

watch your softcore porn as well,

let us know.

And his cowboy comedies.

Not his cowboy softcore porn.

Cowboy comedy porn.

Right.

I don't know how that would go.

Well, that's that.

That's Fulci.

Shall we come back for the outro?

Yes.

Let's do it.

Okay.

and we're back

we're back

to say goodbye

for listening to the episode guys

if you've made it this far

yes

we hope we've inspired you

to go and check out

some Lucio Fulci movies

or go and discover the ones you've never seen of his.

I'm sure everybody who's a horror fan

has probably seen two or three Fortune movies at some point.

But he's an interesting character

and definitely worth having his own episode

like we've done for him.

Yeah.

So there we go.

So that was episode 187,

our last director special of the year 2025.

So let's discuss what's coming up.

So our next episode, episode 188,

is a

as mentioned

holly has selected

two fantastic

betty davies movies

burnt

offerings from 1976

i have that in my dvd collection

and the watcher in the woods

from 1980

i also have that in my dvd collection i can't wait

and sarah's over this weekend so that is what

i'm watching of her

I'm really excited to watch those

and review them

both great films

I haven't seen Burnt Offerings for ages

Burnt Offerings is one I've wanted to cover

with you for absolute ages

so excuse me

god my voice went mental then

after that

after that is our Christmas special

yeah

so episode 189

we'll be covering Fat Man

with Mel Gibson from 2020

where he plays Santa.

Presured by Walter Goggins.

Yes.

And we're pairing that up with

1983's Trading Places.

Yeah.

Eddie Murphy and Dan Aykroyd.

That'll be a fun Christmas episode.

I can't wait, actually.

And then our first episode

of the following year

will be your birthday episode.

It's like my own little Patreon episode

where I get to pick the movies.

And you have selected 1987's Hellraiser.

Yeah.

Which is very exciting.

Good conversation.

Are you going to give anything else about that episode?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Going to have a celibate on to chat to him a little bit.

Not while we review the film.

We'll just do a little separate interview,

half hour or so,

with Nicholas Vince.

The Teeth Jatterer himself.

The Teeth Jatterer from Hellraiser 1 and 2.

And he's in Nightbreed as well.

So that's going to be really special.

And you're pairing that up with 2018's Apostle.

Yeah.

By Gareth Evans, which I've only seen once.

Remember it being quite gory and quite a hard watch at times.

Yeah.

So that's what Gav wanted to be his birthday,

and that's what he gets.

Yeah, I really like that film.

If I had the chance to make a film

and someone gave me loads of money,

I'd probably make something like a puzzle.

I just really like it.

I feel like it's actually quite underrated.

I don't think anyone ever talks about it.

And it's another example,

as I've moaned before,

previous listeners who have heard this before,

I've moaned before that Netflix

don't make physical copies of their stuff.

Some stuff, not really most of their stuff.

the odd thing

but was it a Netflix

exclusive

yeah

so you can't get it

interesting

and if you can

it's going to be like

some

like foreign

type

probably

not official

so it's really annoying

because it's a

I'd love to have a movie

in my collection

because it's a good

good bit of new

new folk horror

by Gareth Evans

and we love

we love folk horror

Evans

so that's what's coming up

we've got a patron pick

a Christmas special

and a birthday

special. So lots to celebrate over the next few episodes coming up.

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Talking of patron...

And our new episode,

A postcard from Florida drops tomorrow.

Yeah.

And I've already listened to it.

Oh, yeah.

Because I'm a patron.

I've got to put the video up of it,

but the video is massive and it takes ages,

so I need to just leave my laptop on for hours

while I go out and do something.

Oh, I should have waited

and watched your lovely faces discussing it.

I know, I know.

I want to, but it's just I need to be doing it at some point.

That's fine.

Well, talking to Patreon, we've got our own Patreon,

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Fierce like a glove.

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So.

Who are you speaking of?

I have no idea.

But let's say our good nights.

It's a good night from Dr. Freudstein in your basement

with lots of body parts all around him.

You did everybody's patron names, didn't you?

No, I didn't.

Thank you for telling me that, Gav.

Gosh.

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We haven't done this before

This is like the Waltons

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Goodnight Dante

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Sleep tight Matthew

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Tuck in those corners Kevin

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Puff up that pillow Sarah

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Get all that cover pulled right up

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McCready

oh RJ

get all snug

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to Lexbo

goodnight Lexbo

goodnight

that's so nice

I feel like I was

doing actually

the end of

Macapaco

and all that stuff

oh god yeah

in the night garden

I feel like I'm

doing the end of

the night garden

or a weird version

of the Waltons

goodnight everyone

so goodnight

to all of you

AMSR

thank you all

very much for your

support

yeah

and a goodnight from Dr. Freudstein

in your basement, Gav.

Yeah, totally. Thank you, Patrons. Appreciate you so much

and we're going to do some special contact

coming for you soon. But yes, goodnight

and be safe, people.

Goodnight from Dr. Freudstein.

Goodnight from

Bob. Fuck off, Bob.

Which Bob? Blow up Bob

or the little kid Bob? I don't know.

They're both annoying. So, goodnight from Steve.

Steve, are you dressed? Steve!

My boobs are out, Steve.

And it's a good night from the priest hanging from the tree in the graveyard.

I guess it is.

Goddamn gates of hell.

Thank you, everybody, for listening to us.

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