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SimmBros Pod is your playbook for winning in your 20s. Join the Simmons' brothers, Chris and Cam, as they break down exercise, nutrition, finance, sports, and life lessons — giving you real strategies to build success, one step at a time.
And welcome to the Simbros Pod.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Episode one. Episode one. The game plan.
Speaker 1:Day one.
Speaker 2:How many luck it?
Speaker 1:This is the first one we're doing. Kinda crazy.
Speaker 2:Man, I mean, like, who do who do we get this point? I know we always talked about it. I made some promises to people. I was like, I'm gonna have a podcast with my brother one day, and I just didn't know if it was possible. But, man,
Speaker 1:here we are. Here we are. I've done the same thing. But I think it's due. I think it's time.
Speaker 1:We've worked hard to get to where we are, and I think it's important for us to share our opinions and help people out in any way we can.
Speaker 2:I mean, couldn't agree more. Definitely wanna echo, you know, we're not experts on anything. You know, we might not read all these scientific journals or whatever, but look, we live life, and we love what we do, and we work hard doing it. Just kinda wanna impart some wisdom amongst the people who, you know, will probably be teaching us as well. You know how it goes with being a teacher student relationship.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you should always be someone who's trying to learn. If you're not trying to learn every day, that's not what life's about. But before we get into all that extra stuff, let's first introduce the show. I'm Chris. I'm Cam.
Speaker 1:And together, we're the Simbros. Simbros. Two brothers trying to navigate life in our twenties together one day at a time.
Speaker 2:What is it? Two bros, one no what was it?
Speaker 1:I don't even remember.
Speaker 2:You put it on the you put it on
Speaker 1:the thing, bro.
Speaker 2:Two brothers, big dreams, no excuse.
Speaker 1:No excuses. That was a big deal. No excuse.
Speaker 2:Maybe a few. Few excuses.
Speaker 1:But anyway This podcast is all about winning in your twenties. It's about figuring out the things you can do every single day to put you in a position to be successful and build the life you always wanted. That's what we're doing right now. We hope we can learn from you, and we hope we can teach you things we've done to make ourselves into the place we are right now.
Speaker 2:Absolutely. Couldn't agree more. I mean, checks and balances, because at the end of the day, you can't live a life of strictly go, go, go, work, work, work. Like, it's all about moderation, and we're gonna be talking about that. But you can't be too moderate now.
Speaker 2:You can't be too moderate, and so you gotta find that happy balance. So whether it's nutrition, exercise, finance, or just mindset overall, we're here to talk about it. We're here to discuss it. We have questions for each other because we don't obviously act the same towards similar situations, but it'll be good to just get some perspective on these particular situations.
Speaker 1:That's great. I think that's exactly what we're going for. Perspectives and taking cues from each other, understanding what someone else does differently. Cam just mentioned saying, We both act differently, but we're both kind of going towards the same goal, but we can get it different ways. And I think that's important too, that there's not a one size fits all approach to life in your twenties.
Speaker 1:There's not a one size fits all approach to your life in general. So what we tell you and what you see in other media sources, those are all great ideas and things. But what's most important is finding what works best for you.
Speaker 2:Hey, bud. Now let's get into it, man.
Speaker 1:Before we get any further, we gotta first introduce ourselves. I mean, come on. Right? Right? Cam, who are you?
Speaker 2:What an excellent question. I'm Cam Simmons, six feet tall, six'one. Tell your friends, tell your friends. No. Cam Simmons, twenty three, just recently graduated at American University.
Speaker 2:Go Eagles. Go Eagles. And currently working in tech sales at a startup in the Bay Area and loving it. And I feel like even in this short year, it's almost been a year, full year of me working here, I've I've learned so much. And one of the people I've learned the most from is this guy sitting next to me, so I'll let him introduce himself.
Speaker 1:Great intro. I couldn't even have done it better. I don't think. I'm Chris. I am the older brother of the group.
Speaker 1:I am 20 I'm also six four.
Speaker 2:Hey. Hey. Hey.
Speaker 1:I'm actually six one. I mean, you're not taller than me. We're the same height. The the graphic makes it look like whatever.
Speaker 2:Whatever. Yeah. Anyway. Doesn't matter.
Speaker 1:I'm Chris, twenty five. I work in tech as well. I work as a product manager at a big tech company based in the Bay Area, so we're both living up here. I went to Duke where I was part of the basketball team there. Go Blue Devils.
Speaker 1:And this is my second job in tech, so I'm kinda navigating how to see different companies. And I've worked at a startup previously, so I have experience there. Now I work at a big tech company. So there's a lot of different things and nuances that go into working in tech, and it's been a whirlwind so far. But I'm enjoying it.
Speaker 1:Definitely some stress. That's just what work is going to be. But I'm I'm enjoying it, and I'm excited to see what goes next. And I've only been at this new job for about a month ish, so got a lot to learn. But we're both here.
Speaker 2:Yeah. For sure. And honestly, I think we should talk about how we even got here. I first got this job out of college. I had to move from LA, where I'm from, to HQ, which is here in the Bay Area.
Speaker 2:And I was planning on only being here for one year, and then potentially, Chris and I were gonna try to meet up in New York, try to get some tech jobs out there or even relocate in the current jobs that we had. But kind of fate fell in our lap, didn't it, with you?
Speaker 1:Yeah, it did. I was working remotely back in LA for a year and a half ish, and the plan was to be in New York. Cam was gonna be in the Bay Area for his year, like we mentioned. And then after that year, we would make our way to the the Big Apple, like they call it. But then random job came up, one that I could not refuse.
Speaker 1:And there was a couple options about where I was going to be. And the one that was kind of given to me was the Bay Area, and I didn't really have another choice. Mean, that's you know, New York was kinda out of the question. And then I was like, you know what? Let's just let's just move up here.
Speaker 1:I don't know if Cam really wanted to stay. I really didn't know. I thought I did. I gonna make I did it. By myself.
Speaker 2:No problem.
Speaker 1:I'm actually glad he he worked it, but, again, it's it's expensive in in NYC.
Speaker 2:Yeah. No joke. Good luck to all my NYC people. I I know you're out there.
Speaker 1:So so that's how we ended up here. Now we're both living together since, you know, early March.
Speaker 2:Let's go. Alright. It's time to lock in.
Speaker 1:Why are we here? Why us? What are we doing here? Great question. Never even heard of us if you're listening for the first time.
Speaker 2:That's from
Speaker 1:you. So what is this for?
Speaker 2:Why us? Are we special? Are we are we different? But you know what, Chris? Why are we doing this?
Speaker 2:Why why now?
Speaker 1:Yeah. We're doing this because I feel like there's a void of guiding voices and principles in life. I personally, and I think we'll both say it, we're kind of doing this for each other. I if you've seen my TikToks or if you haven't, when I first started posting, it was really just for me. Some days, I needed some motivation or life advice that I needed someone to tell me.
Speaker 1:So I thought, you know what? Let me just start posting. And I posted for myself. Right? So why now and why us is because there's a void.
Speaker 1:I really will say this. I think there's a void of guiding voices. I need the voice. This is something I wanna listen to and Cam wants to listen to. But second of all, I think a lot of our life experiences overlap with a lot of yours.
Speaker 1:And I think we're all just trying to figure out how to navigate life, and I'm glad we're able to show what we've done and hopefully learn from you as well.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Couldn't agree more.
Speaker 1:You
Speaker 2:know, like like like like you said, we're not perfect. We're learning as well. We're we're just trying to get there and just trying to, you know, really just, like, speak on our findings. In our short lives so far, just try to speak on what we've learned and and things that we've picked up on and just kind of emphasize that moment.
Speaker 1:And what have you said? You you said it. We're just regular people. Right? You know, we're just regular regular people.
Speaker 1:Yep. Yeah. We haven't done anything. We don't have this special ability. No.
Speaker 2:Think I I don't know. I know Kenny the Jet didn't make it up, but I saw Kenny the Jet Smith, the anchor, former basketball player on TNT. He said, extraordinary people aren't special. They aren't different. They just do the ordinary extra.
Speaker 2:And I think that couldn't that sentiment is probably the biggest key that we've learned is just gotta do the hard things, and you gotta be consistent with it. And not only you have to be consistent, you have to be disciplined. Like, when it hurts, you just gotta do it. And I think that's what we're trying to get out with this podcast.
Speaker 1:Definitely. That's exactly right. That's what we're doing. A lot of times, the successful people, you think, oh, they have this god given ability. They're just better than me.
Speaker 1:They're just smarter than me. And listen, sometimes there actually are those people, which is fair. Like, that happens. But a lot of times, the people who are successful, the people you look up to are the ones who just do the hard things over and over again. They just continually do things more than other people, and that results in their success.
Speaker 1:So you're not someone who can't do it. Right? Don't ever cop out and tell yourself, I can't do this because they're better than me. They're taller than me. They're in better shape than me.
Speaker 1:Like, that doesn't matter. You can work Because the whole thing about those people is that you can never compare yourself to a person who is richer than you or in better shape than you because you don't really know what they went through. So you can't say, wow, I really should be there or woe is me because you don't know what that person did. And that's what we're trying to tell you is that you don't need to cop out of life. You don't need to say life is over because you're not at a place or someone's better than you.
Speaker 1:You can get there, and we hope to show you how you can get there. That's what our point is. You don't need to be insanely talented at something to get there. If you are able to put in the work, you can become extraordinary. I mean, you probably have a ton of examples of this in your life so far.
Speaker 1:Right?
Speaker 2:I definitely I definitely got one. The first thing that comes to mind, honestly, was when I was able to get my finance internship. Let me preface this by saying, I did not go to an Ivy League. I was a psychology major. I was already behind the eight ball in this particular scenario.
Speaker 2:I was not supposed to get this. And I'm not trying to sound like LeBron. Like, I'm not supposed to be here. But I was not supposed to get it, honestly. My grades were not, like, fuck.
Speaker 2:They were not fantastic. They were they were good, but they were not again, Ivy League level. And I remember that summer before my junior year, I applied to every single finance internship I could get. And honestly, every single one said no, besides one. And guess what?
Speaker 2:That's all it takes sometimes, man.
Speaker 1:That's all great, but you didn't really tell us what you did. You know, coming from a non target school, psychology major, not great grades.
Speaker 2:Alright. Alright. Alright. Alright.
Speaker 1:How did you get there? How did you Yeah. Find yourself into a top level finance internship?
Speaker 2:Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I already knew that my knowledge off off rip my knowledge for, you know, my finance knowledge and and the knowledge that would be necessary to succeed in this internship was already at a spot much less than everybody else's. I didn't go to class every day to learn about EBITDA or or how to you know, what are some other fun the balance DCAs.
Speaker 2:That. All that. I didn't I yeah. I'd never even heard of it, really. And so I knew that during this interview process that I would be asked about these questions, and I would be required to have good answers, if not correct answers.
Speaker 2:So I studied all night. I looked at all these tables, looked at all these sheets, watched all these videos to, like, just get a hint of a grasp of what I can talk about. And honestly, it took a lot out of me. It took a lot out of me, but I'm so thankful I did because when those questions came up in the interview, you bet you bet I was ready to answer them.
Speaker 1:Grew up every night. But he ain't Yeah. Like, how often?
Speaker 2:Yeah. I mean, you know, I I would call you all the time when I would tell you about it. Like Yeah. You know, I like, is this worth it? I would have these doubts.
Speaker 2:Like, what am I doing? Is this worth it? Like, I'm not even getting these these answers anyway. Yeah. I should probably stop, like, find another job.
Speaker 2:But you told me, and I appreciate this, you told me to keep going. You told me it's gonna all come to fruition one day. It's all gonna pay off one day. And I appreciate that because it did. And that honestly opened a lot of doors for me.
Speaker 2:And without that, I it also taught me that, like, man I mean, sometimes you really gotta just put in the work. You really gotta put your head down and you gotta, like, learn.
Speaker 1:Special. You probably you had the low lowest
Speaker 2:chance for
Speaker 1:most people to get their job.
Speaker 2:Right? Exactly. No. I mean, like, honestly, since you told me about, like, you know, keep working hard and keep going, like, where did that come from for you? Like, where did you get that?
Speaker 2:Where did that start?
Speaker 1:How did you think it kinda started similar to you. I mean, when I was starting out, when I was younger, I was never, you know, the smartest person I could feel like. I felt like you know? And even my parents would say this. Right?
Speaker 1:They they would tell us this even though they'd probably lie about it. You know, they probably thought I was gonna be a b student ish around there.
Speaker 2:Right? I was
Speaker 1:doing my best, but I didn't really have, like, the it factor. And I knew it. I didn't feel like I was naturally smart. And if you ever meet us in person, you'll probably say Cam is much smarter than me because
Speaker 2:Not even not even at that.
Speaker 1:Yeah. It really does come off like that. He sometimes will be like, how did you even get into Duke? How did you do that? I still don't know.
Speaker 2:Okay. Before we get into this, who in admissions let this guy in? Yeah. Exactly. We're talking about the same person.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Exactly. And So And I'm Yeah.
Speaker 2:I think Kidding, of course.
Speaker 1:I think it was just it was kinda like fourth or fifth grade, you know, when you're in the classes. Right? And at first, I was always more on, like, the above average intelligence, I'd say, but I was never super smart. But whenever we were, you know, split up into, like, the a group Yeah. Group for reading and for math, I was always in the a group.
Speaker 1:And then I think it was fourth grade or fifth grade, one of those years where I was like, you know you know when you're getting ready for something and they, like, expect you expect your day to be called for, like, the group to go outside because that was, like, the big group. My name did get called.
Speaker 2:All my friends were going out there.
Speaker 1:Like, shout out Danny if you're listening to this. Danny was my best friend, and we would always be there. But Danny is always way smarter than me. Like, I knew that. Right?
Speaker 1:I was trying to keep up. So Danny goes outside to, like, you know, our regular class or to the advanced class, and I'm stuck inside. And I'm like, you know, no disrespect, but I should be
Speaker 2:out there. Right?
Speaker 1:So so I think that's what lit a fire
Speaker 2:under me. I think Wow. Fifth grade.
Speaker 1:Yeah. I was just like, I wanna be outside. I've always been a high achiever, right, in everything. Yeah. I wanna be in that outside group.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:I don't wanna be in the non advanced math group or the non advanced reading group. So I don't know. Maybe it was just me and my fifth grade brain trying to figure things out. I just knew I had to do more to get to where I wanted to be because I wasn't as naturally smart or gifted as other people.
Speaker 2:So, yeah, what did you do more?
Speaker 1:Yeah. Every night, most nights at least, it was Brain Quest with dad. Oh,
Speaker 2:Mike. As much as
Speaker 1:it was the five math. I was doing those at home because I would get mom to print out the five minute math thing Yep. And try to do it as fast as possible. This is what I was starting to do because I knew it was important to me. And I didn't even really think about why I was doing that, but I guess now when I look at it, it's because I knew I had to put in more work.
Speaker 1:I knew that in order to get to the place I wanted to be, it it might not have been as easy as most people. Right? So I had to do a bit more. Right? And it ended up working out enough for me, but it was all because of third, fourth, fifth grade advanced classes.
Speaker 1:As young as you are, you kind of know. And I knew I wanted to be a high achiever, and I had to figure out how I was gonna get there. So that's where it started for me. And then ever since, it's always been like, I gotta do more. I gotta just keep trying because I know I'm kinda behind the eight ball in some situations.
Speaker 1:Like, I'm not as naturally smart as you. No. I had to figure my way out. So, you know, that's what that's what got it for
Speaker 2:me. I mean, there you have it, folks. You know, we're not again, we're not special. We'll we'll echo this a lot. But sometimes, you know, you know, instead of saying, woe is me, instead of being feeling sad for yourself, feeling sorry for yourself, pick up your picking yourself up by bootstraps, you know, and and and put in the work.
Speaker 2:Yeah. And I'm sure, like, if you're listening to this, guess what? You already did.
Speaker 1:Even if you're not at the place you wanna get to. And I think that's kind of a great segue into the second thing we wanna talk about is that mindset, the importance of having that mindset in her twenties, right, in life, right, is that it's not over, and that just because you're not as gifted as somebody else doesn't mean you can't get to where that person got to. I think that's so important. I think for me where this looks at a lot is I'm in a job right now that is very engineering focused. To be a product manager in most tech companies requires some sort of technical background and acumen.
Speaker 2:And you're not very engineering focused.
Speaker 1:No. I never was. An econ major. Right? Like, this is not something I never knew how to code besides a couple classes I took, yet I'm telling engineers what to do or how to build things.
Speaker 1:Right? And the reason why I got there is because in my job previous to this, I knew I wanted to be a product manager. I wasn't a product manager at that job, but I knew I wanted to. Pretty funny. Every night on my calendar from 7PM to 08:30, I had a Udemy Python course and, like, Udemy coding courses that I would take.
Speaker 1:And the first year was tough. I felt like, you know, I started off really early and things were working well. And then was like, I hit hit a bump because things just got a little more advanced for me. But every night meant doing some sort of coding project, doing something I could. And it was pretty funny because some of the people I worked with, you can see their calendars, and they would always look at me and be like, why do you have, like, Udemy Python on your calendar for Monday through Friday?
Speaker 1:They knew because I knew what what I wanted. Right? I knew what I wanted to become. And in order to do that, meant me working harder than people who have an engineering degree, than people who have a computer science degree. That's what I had to do.
Speaker 1:And that's why I think that mindset is so important to be successful in your twenties. I don't deserve this. Right? Like, I didn't have a CS background. So why should I get into the place I am right now?
Speaker 1:Because I put in the work. Because I knew that I'm not that far off if I just do a little bit of extra work. You hear that? I mean, I heard it. I said it.
Speaker 1:It's classic. Well, I think that's, like, that's that's that's just, like, what the thing is, and so many people don't get it and don't understand that that's all it takes. I mean, I'm sure you have a ton of other stories for yourself too about just, like, this type of mindset or what mindset you think takes you toward the next level in your twenties right now or even in your job, in your life right now. Right? And this is not just about me.
Speaker 1:Cam's a pretty spinning image of having this type of mindset in your twenties as well. I mean, you've done a lot so far that's impressed me.
Speaker 2:I appreciate that. Yeah. I impressed myself. What can I say? Okay.
Speaker 1:So No. No.
Speaker 2:Yeah. The way I looked at it well, I think when you're in college, you kinda, you know, you kinda go wild. It's probably, like, the first time you have a lot of, like, freedom to do whatever. If you want to eat cake for breakfast and chips for dinner, who's gonna stop you? If you want to sleep for three hours and then sixteen, who's gonna stop you?
Speaker 2:If you ain't got classes, no one's gonna stop you. Right? College was definitely a a time of, you know, you're you're kinda just figuring yourself out. You're feeling figuring life out. But, man, when that right after you get that diploma, life kinda hits you in the face, and you're like, woah.
Speaker 2:I'm an adult now. I gotta go to work every day. Kinda like high school again, you know, or, you know, I don't have oh, maybe I have a class or two today in college, but no. In high school, it's like, every day I'm there I'm there at a certain time, and I leave at a certain time. And that's it's kind of what it looks what it's like now again.
Speaker 2:And so I realize how important the mindset that you have in your twenties is, especially because we we have a lot of time to go. Right? We got a lot of we got a lot more of this to do. And compound interest is so important. And, yes, I know you're probably thinking, okay, he's probably talking about finance or something.
Speaker 2:No. No. No. Compound interest, I'm talking about that for everything in life. The effort that you put in now is going to pay dividends over time.
Speaker 2:And it only will like, it will be exponentially better as time goes on. And it's that's the thing. It's really hard to do that now. This this is when investing with anything in life, it's hard to do it now because you are putting in a lot of effort, a lot of resources into it, and you don't see that much success. Right?
Speaker 2:You don't see that much growth or dividends, if you will. But, man, over time, over a long period of time, it's pretty nice. And you can kinda see how important starting off with a determined mindset can be.
Speaker 1:I think that determined mindset's important. I think it's actually I want an example from you, I think the food, the way you've gone about eating now, has impressed me. And I think that kind of what you're talking about with compound interest. Can you just talk a bit further about how you sort of changed your diet?
Speaker 2:Yeah, for sure. So I kind of changed the way I thought about food. I really started out chicken and rice, and I would probably have that you know, I'm sure everybody's heard it, but I probably would have that five, six times a week, if not seven. And, you know, it was cool. Like, it wasn't bad, but, you know, I never really felt I never really felt, like, fulfilled or I never really felt like this is a good meal, and this is not this is not sustainable, really.
Speaker 2:And so I kinda changed my mindset into, let me let me get the most amount of protein possible. And so I possible. And so I actually replaced the carbs with extra protein and vegetables, trying to stay in the same calorie count. And honestly, like, I've I've never felt better. And I also am, like, seeing great results.
Speaker 2:I'm also seeing great results. I'm seeing great success from this. And and and it really was just a mindset change. It was not easy at first. There were times where I was like, ugh, I gotta eat this again.
Speaker 2:And then you kinda just get into that flow. You get into the groove where it's like, I can't wait. You know? And and talk about how, like, that sort of feel out process where it's really difficult at first, but over time, it almost becomes painful to not do it.
Speaker 1:Yeah. That's a good point. It's it's the kind of the quote I think about. It doesn't really get easier. You just get better, and you just get more comfortable.
Speaker 1:Right? The only way to get comfortable at something is to just do it more. Right? That is what happened with you. You probably were like, don't really know if I wanna eat this chicken with this steak and this pork with no rice.
Speaker 1:I don't know how he does it. I personally cannot, but he does. Right? And he has, you know, strawberries or fruit mostly as the carb sources. Right?
Speaker 1:But, you know, it's probably tough for you at first, but now you're doing it and you're enjoying it. And like you said, it's painful when you don't do it. For us, for people who work out pretty often, it's painful when we don't work out. It's like, I don't feel right. I don't feel like I'm that person Yeah.
Speaker 1:Who I just have, like, all this pent up energy and stuff. Like, I just need to. Right? Yeah. It doesn't feel right because we've done it for so long.
Speaker 1:It's become a part of our lives. And that's the point of this mindset. Right? When you consistently do things that you don't like often, it actually becomes a part of your life. And then you seek out doing more of those things.
Speaker 1:And if you don't do that difficult thing that day, you actually want to, or you'll try to find something else Yeah. That's difficult. And that is what separates the good from the great people.
Speaker 2:Yeah. And I agree. Also, when you do the difficult things, your outlook on life improve. And I think I use improves as a very, very low stakes term because it really completely upends itself in the best way possible.
Speaker 1:Yeah. You're underselling it when you say improves.
Speaker 2:I mean, like, it's you look at life like, what's next? Yep. I can't I can't wait for this next challenge. I'm ready for it. I'm a go head on right through this wall.
Speaker 1:Yep. Right?
Speaker 2:Instead of, god, here we go again. It's another thing. It's another problem. No. No.
Speaker 2:No. No. When you do the hard things consistently, your whole mindset will change.
Speaker 1:Keep doing those. Keep doing those. And speaking of a hard thing, this is also a podcast. We're not just gonna talk about life advice, which is great. Yep.
Speaker 1:We're both huge sports fans, both from LA, as we mentioned. I also wanna talk about sports because this is also our life. We watch sports all the time. And sometimes our friends who don't watch as much sports are always like, why is there another game on on the weekend as opposed to, like, going to dinner when I'm like, hey. The first round of the NBA playoffs are on.
Speaker 1:They're like, we just watched the NCAA tournament championship. I'm like, yeah. I know. And the masters was the next week. It just keeps going.
Speaker 1:Oh, So this is also gonna be a sports podcast. And we just wanted to do before we got out of here. If you made it this far, first of all, congratulations.
Speaker 2:Thank you.
Speaker 1:Thank you. We appreciate it.
Speaker 2:Thank you. Resolute.
Speaker 1:Yes. Thank you. Alright. We wanna do some sports talk, some Laker talk, and this is the state of where the NBA playoffs are at the moment. Cam, I'll let you get it started because it's tough to watch with him.
Speaker 1:It's tough to watch Laker games with him. I'll tell you that much. I'm telling you,
Speaker 2:I'm losing my voice a little bit yelling at Jackson Hayes. How about that? How about that? See, I'm already doing it again. Sorry.
Speaker 2:I gotta calm down. I gotta calm down. But, yeah, watch this Laker game. Big Laker fans. I don't know what to do.
Speaker 2:This team Lakers obviously lost earlier today to the Minnesota Timberwolves down three one in the series. This team is just not it. Definitely not enough to to win a title. I'm hoping we could we could have won the series. I it's obviously still possible.
Speaker 2:It's three one, but the chances are just so unlikely now. LeBron just played forty six minutes.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Forty six.
Speaker 2:When was the last time he played forty six minutes?
Speaker 1:You said probably twenty eighteen.
Speaker 2:Wait. Twenty twenty eighteen against the Cavs when he played all forty eight minutes and took In every other game. I'm sorry. Against the Celtics.
Speaker 1:Game seven.
Speaker 2:What are we doing? What are we doing?
Speaker 1:Yeah. I think the main the main thing I took from that is that Anthony Edwards is the best player in the series.
Speaker 2:And I mean, he might be one of the best players in the NBA. Like Oh, no. He is. Mean I'm about I'm talking about, like, top two, top three. Like I'm
Speaker 1:saying not many people wanna hear it. Listen.
Speaker 2:I I saw
Speaker 1:I was thinking about it.
Speaker 2:Not many people wanna hear it.
Speaker 1:Been way better than Luka Doncic. Even though Luka has put up these great numbers, you don't feel him in these games Mhmm. And down the stretch and the whole game, honestly. You felt his presence in the game. Yeah.
Speaker 1:And it wasn't just scoring. I mean, had 43 tonight. Right?
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:It wasn't just scoring.
Speaker 2:He he was at the top he was at the top of these defensive sets. So and they were switching everything. He was just there. Yep. It was LeBron.
Speaker 2:It was AR. It was Luca, Doe, whoever it was. He was sitting on it. He was waiting.
Speaker 1:And he's doing that at all times. Playing
Speaker 2:Play the entire second half, by the way, too.
Speaker 1:Playing with all that competitiveness. And like you were saying, know you're
Speaker 2:gonna go to
Speaker 1:the best players in the league. I think Jokic sits there, and I think you could probably put Giannis at two. And after that, I think it's up for debate.
Speaker 2:I mean, I don't even know about Giannis anymore.
Speaker 1:I think Giannis is pretty
Speaker 2:Where are putting Shane in? Somewhere with Ant. Ant, I I became I mean, I always was an Ant believer. God.
Speaker 1:But he's to make this this jump playmaking wise.
Speaker 2:Playmaking. These step through dry like, he'll drive
Speaker 1:Yep.
Speaker 2:Pump fake. Everybody jumps, step through. And then
Speaker 1:Second step. I think it's a travel. The Lakers are asking for a travel. You keep telling me it's not a travel.
Speaker 2:I don't think it's a travel. The one time he did travel.
Speaker 1:Sec yeah. But he missed the Lakers.
Speaker 2:Dude, they're all clean, and that's his that's his move. Because, like, you're gonna jump for the pump fake. He's he's, you know, he's already in the paint. Yep. But god.
Speaker 2:I mean Yeah.
Speaker 1:And I think we don't need to talk too much Lakers as well. I wanna talk just like the whole other playoffs, but I think the Anthony Edwards piece is kind of a broader beacon and indicator towards how it works. If if you have the best player in the series, you have a chance. I mean, a lot of people were picking the Lakers. Pretty much most people were.
Speaker 1:I think they were, like, minus 200 favorites to start. Right? That's because they expected Luka Doncic to be the best player. Yeah. Right?
Speaker 1:And when you have the best player, you usually have a puncher's chance, if not, like, a great chance. And you see that with the Clippers and Nuggets series. You probably thought the Nuggets were done going down two one Yeah. To the Clippers at home. But guess what?
Speaker 1:They have the best player in the series. As well as Kawhi's been playing, they have Nikola Jokic who had, I don't know, like, '35, '20 '2, and something. Like, ridiculous. Ridiculous. When you have the best player in the series, same thing with Milwaukee.
Speaker 2:How many games how many games is that series going?
Speaker 1:Gotta go seven. I mean, I think everybody needs it.
Speaker 2:Seven? Who you got, though?
Speaker 1:To be honest, I got a Clippers in seven.
Speaker 2:I also have the Clippers.
Speaker 1:It's tough. I just think I think they will outdo them, but you can't put Jokic. You can't put anything past Jokic. I mean, sorry. It's the same thing with Milwaukee too.
Speaker 1:Right? They're down two one right now, but they have the best player in the series. So what do you think?
Speaker 2:That one's going seven. I've had to put money on anything. Indiana's going seven. I got Indiana winning at home.
Speaker 1:Yeah. It's probably probably different.
Speaker 2:I think I think this is gonna be a home game series.
Speaker 1:Well, I I actually I like that point.
Speaker 2:Where, like, each because, like, these Milwaukee or these Indiana shooters cannot shoot in Milwaukee. Mhmm. It's it's tough to watch. I got Giannis doing his thing. G Trent, shout out Gary Trent, he's doing his thing.
Speaker 2:But he's not gonna do it again. Yeah. Hate to break it to you. It ain't gonna happen again. He had 37.
Speaker 2:He will not have 37 again. Not even close. His his next best games will be game four and game six when they're in Milwaukee. But other than that, I don't see it happening.
Speaker 1:Yeah. I agree. I think that'll be interesting. I think Indiana could steal tonight. I think Milwaukee needed a Herculean effort from Gary Trent, like you were saying Yeah.
Speaker 1:To even win that game. So if Dame's not his full self
Speaker 2:Say Dame hasn't even been Dame. I know he has a shoulder blood clot thing.
Speaker 1:Yeah. But if he yeah. I mean, I guess we're you're
Speaker 2:everything's even true.
Speaker 1:Yeah. If if he's not Dame yet, then what are we gonna do? So I think that's important. And I think these series these games besides those two Eastern Conference series and and the Memphis OKC Series, they've they've been in intense. And the playoff basketball, it feels like a different sport to me.
Speaker 1:It's it's like football out there.
Speaker 2:It's completely different. I mean, loose balls in in the woah. In in the regular season, no one cares about. Yeah. Let it go out of bounds.
Speaker 2:Who cares? I mean, we're diving. Diving.
Speaker 1:There's a DFS and who? Yeah. Julius Randle. Literally, said it. This is why you're gonna talk to him.
Speaker 2:Julius Randle. Was like, dude. He never jumps, bro. Oh, yeah. Dives a lot more.
Speaker 1:They're not
Speaker 2:diving for that ball. Braun is not diving. Yeah. I'm glad Ant didn't get hurt. But Braun is not diving for that in the regular season.
Speaker 2:No. He's probably not even diving for that in the playoffs unless Ant antagonizes him a little bit, which I like I like seeing him.
Speaker 1:If they're up two one, he's not diving.
Speaker 2:True. Yep. Yeah. I love the playoffs. We have to talk about this Knicks Piston series.
Speaker 2:That last game first of all, the Knicks are gonna win in five. It's okay. Since the shadow of the Pistons, man, I mean, teen and 60, what, 62 last year?
Speaker 1:That's adds up to 76, but close.
Speaker 2:Fourteen and sixty eight. Sorry. Had to do
Speaker 1:You put it out there. You don't have to say their actual record.
Speaker 2:I just know they won 14 games
Speaker 1:last You know? And now that. And now there's
Speaker 2:six plays in the East. Whatever. First of shout out Cade Cunningham, one of my favorites.
Speaker 1:We watched him in person this year at the Lakers.
Speaker 2:This is
Speaker 1:the first time I was like, oh, he's different. Diff Always like that.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Yeah. So calm. He controls the pace.
Speaker 1:Couple turnovers, but I think it's been a great series, but I also think this is kind of the Knicks Pistons another example of the Warriors rockets is another example too where it's experienced teams versus inexperienced teams. You see the Pistons up 12, I think. They went up 12.
Speaker 2:Yep. Early
Speaker 1:start of the fourth. Yep. Then from there, we were just like, how are they gonna blow this?
Speaker 2:Right? It's gonna happen.
Speaker 1:Because, you know, they're young. They never been there. And I think that's also something. Like, we'll talk about more about that in life, but experience also matters.
Speaker 2:Experience matters. Like, you just have to
Speaker 1:go through it. You sometimes have to go through a bad thing so that you don't experience it later. The Knicks have been through a lot. Collect A lot of their players have been through deep playoff runs. Cat was in the conference finals last year.
Speaker 1:Jalen Brunson, Josh Hart, they were also in the semifinals last year. Right? And tough seven game series. So they've been through it.
Speaker 2:You're gonna talk about OG? OG too.
Speaker 1:OG got a ring, bro. That's true. I forgot.
Speaker 2:Yeah. I know you did. I could tell.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Okay. But so that that's the difference versus every single person on Pistons besides Tobias Harris and Malik Beasley. Yeah. I guess.
Speaker 1:But do you that? Yeah.
Speaker 2:Barely. Barely.
Speaker 1:So that's the difference. Right? The the experience. Same thing with the rockets. I mean, Steph Curry and Draymond Green have more playoff games combined than, I
Speaker 2:mean Probably all
Speaker 1:of them.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Definitely all of them. All 15 of the roster. Literally.
Speaker 1:Probably just Steph himself.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Steven Adams, Dylan Brooks, Van Vliet. Yeah. And, like, those are the only guys really with with playoff experience.
Speaker 1:Yep. Right? I think so.
Speaker 2:Yeah. They're they're a good team, a very good team, and they will be good. Yep. Same with the Pistons, but it's just not their time yet.
Speaker 1:Not yet.
Speaker 2:They they went up against the wrong matchup, and it's unfortunate for them. But the good thing is that they will be good for years to come.
Speaker 1:Definitely. Excited to see what comes with this week's playoffs, this week's game, see who wins advances. Hopefully, next week, we're talking about some game sevens. That would be great. That would
Speaker 2:be cool.
Speaker 1:But, yeah, that's kind of that'll be it for the sports segment. We definitely wanna talk about sports as often as possible. We didn't get to the draft today, but we might wanna talk a bit more about the Shadur drop and all that when we have the But we'll get to that later. We'll save that for
Speaker 2:next the
Speaker 1:Shadur. Yeah. So this was kind of what we're gonna do. Yep. Interesting.
Speaker 1:Right? We kinda we kinda got to the end. If you got here wow. I don't even know if I'm gonna get here around this. Probably would.
Speaker 1:Yep. So, yeah, this is episode one. Day one of Symbros. The game plan. The game plan of your life.
Speaker 2:There's nobody else I wanna go on this journey with than the guy sitting next to me, man. Yep. Let's do it. Let's do it. Let's do it.
Speaker 1:You know, coming up on this podcast, like we mentioned, will be a lot of different things. There'll be nutrition breakdowns, how to manage your finances, how to run a marathon, how to just manage your life and a lot of different moving parts to be as successful as possible. Because remember, this is all about winning life in your twenties and beyond.
Speaker 2:Yeah. And we're gonna go very high level, and we're gonna go very detailed at times. Because know, at the end of the day, there's no detail too small when it comes to success and when it comes to your life, man. Yep. Let's go.
Speaker 1:Let's go. Before we get out of here, Cam has a challenge
Speaker 2:for So this is where all nothing we're gonna do. Again, you've made it this far. Thank you. For the challenge of the week, man, I just want you to think. You don't have to do it yet, but just think of one thing you wanna do to improve your life.
Speaker 2:This is very vague. I hear you. Don't worry about it. But just think think of one thing you can do to improve your life. Make sure it is quantifiable, and make sure it's measurable.
Speaker 2:If you just say, for example, I wanna eat better, that doesn't really mean anything. But if you actually say something more specific like, oh, I wanna be in a calorie surplus for four out of the seven days of of of the week, That is a very Attainable. That is an attainable goal, a, but it's also a goal that you can measure your success on.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Because goals are always about the the vaguer the goal, the less you can really yourself against or even do it.
Speaker 2:Right. And then it's like, well, I haven't been eating better. Well, what does that mean? Yeah. Exactly.
Speaker 1:So whatever you have, whatever you're thinking of today, this week, make a goal for yourself and make it quantifiable so at the end of the week, you can actually see your progress. Well, that's all for this week. Hope you enjoyed the first episode, and we'll see you all next week. Stay locked.