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Seth Holehouse is a TV personality, YouTuber, podcaster, and patriot who became a household name in 2020 after his video exposing election fraud was tweeted, shared, uploaded, and pinned by President Donald Trump — reaching hundreds of millions worldwide.
Titled The Plot to Steal America, the video was created with a mission to warn Americans about the communist threat to our nation—a mission that’s been at the forefront of Seth’s life for nearly two decades.
After 10 years behind the scenes at The Epoch Times, launching his own show was the logical next step. Since its debut, Seth’s show “Man in America” has garnered 1M+ viewers on a monthly basis as his commitment to bring hope to patriots and to fight communism and socialism grows daily. His guests have included Peter Navarro, Kash Patel, Senator Wendy Rogers, General Michael Flynn, and General Robert Spalding.
He is also a regular speaker at the “ReAwaken America Tour” alongside Eric Trump, Mike Lindell, Gen. Flynn.
Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Man in America. I'm your host, Seth Hullhouse. I've finally got to sit down with someone who's been incredibly inspiring to me in what I'm doing, and that is the famed and brave investigative journalist, Laura Logan. She's someone I've been following for quite some time. She's done absolutely incredible work, but she's someone that is obviously if you've been following her work, she's not controlled by the mainstream.
Seth Holehouse:She's independently seeking the truth to bring the truth to people, and she's someone that is a veteran on reporting on war. The good guys, the bad guys, she's been embedded in Iraq. She's just been on the front lines. And so today's conversation, we're gonna be really focused on getting to the heart of war And the fact that we are at war right now, but it's not a war like we've seen with the Axis and the allies. It's not a war of, you know, the Iraqis versus the American troops.
Seth Holehouse:It's really a war of humanity. It's these psychopathic elites waging war against us, you and me and our families and all the people around us left, right, black, white, straight, gay, doesn't matter. All of us are on the receiving end of these attacks at the end of the day. And so we're gonna be diving into this together and just having a deep soulful discussion about where humanity is at. So folks, I really hope that you enjoy this interview with Laura Logan.
Seth Holehouse:Laura, thank you so very much for coming on the show. I have to say that it is such an honor to have you on the show. Just thank you for being here.
Speaker 2:Well, thank you for having me. I think your show is so successful because of you, right? Because of the person you are.
Seth Holehouse:Well, thank you. And that means a lot coming from you. And you've been a great example of just investigating the truth at all costs. And so there's so much that we can be kind of digging into today. But just a quick start with your own mission.
Seth Holehouse:I know that you've been in journalism, investigative journalism for quite some time, but you've really taken a departure, and I find that you're actually looking for the truth, and not just looking for the truth that fits the mainstream narrative. And that's come at a great cost. You know, you people like you aren't welcome in the world of the mainstream media where it's very carefully curated. And what's what's been the driver behind, I think, just really seeking the truth no matter what and what you're doing right now?
Speaker 2:I was really born that way. I mean, I don't know, there's never been a moment in my life where it's been anything other than that, you know. So in some ways, it's a difficult question to answer. But I was always driven to understand. You know I was always driven to bridge that gap between people.
Speaker 2:And as you try to understand things that you have to get close to it to understand it. And when you are close to it, there's nothing like experiencing it firsthand for that to alter your perception. It's very easy from a distance to judge, right? It's kind of like one former prosecutor said to me about Matthew Perner when I was talking to him about his case. Matthew Perna was a January 6 defendant who killed himself who was in our first two episodes.
Speaker 2:And he said, you know, he's now a defense attorney and he said, was a prosecutor before. And honestly, he said, they were just names on a page for me. He said, I never ever thought about that as a person. And that's really part of what I have always been drawn to doing is to take those names from a page and bring them to life when it really when I believe it really matters. And I've been lucky enough to spend my whole life doing that.
Speaker 2:You know, I did that on the battlefields in Iraq and Afghanistan. And I don't mean just with American soldiers. I spent most of my time, five years living in Iraq. I lived with the Iraqis, right? I mean, I love it when people try to paint me as this kind of embedded reporter who said this is the only thing I know how to do.
Speaker 2:Actually, I spent more of my time with Afghans in Afghanistan than US Soldiers or more of my time with Iraqis. So, I really have been blessed in my life to have known my purpose from the very, very beginning. And I know many people spend all their lives struggling to find their purpose. I have not had to do that. I only had one moment where I wasn't quite sure and it didn't take me long.
Speaker 2:That was just sort of a moment that reaffirmed my purpose in the end, you know. And so I just don't understand. I didn't set out to do something groundbreaking or different. I set out to do what I thought every journalist's responsibility was. And that was to follow the facts wherever they take you.
Speaker 2:I mean, I had great colleagues at sixty Minutes and we did that together. And I thought that's all it was. But I learned that when I followed the facts to where they led naturally and the truth that it revealed was uncomfortable for the people controlling the media and controlling our society, Then I learned and discovered a very different side of the world that we now live in that is common today, right? I mean, millions of people know this to be the reality of the media. But when it happened to me more than twelve years ago, it was a shock to my whole system.
Seth Holehouse:And there's a few things I wanna touch on there. You know, one is you talked about war, and you've done a lot of war reporting. And then this understanding of who's controlling the media and the narrative. And I find that with where I'm at and what I'm trying to help people understand is that, you know, through my own research, we are at war. But it's not a war like most of us believe a war to be like what we see in Hollywood of, you know, bullets and bombs and and, you know, tanks invading.
Seth Holehouse:But then actually that we're at a war, and it's really it's we the people, not just we the people of America, we the people of the world that are just simple people that want freedom and want the ability to raise our families and to be able to work and and provide for our families up against this class of people. And whether you wanna look and point to the Chinese Communist Party, which I spent a lot of time focusing on, or the globalist organizations or the banking families or whatever it is, that they're at war against us to really force us into a global slavery system. And this again, that's my own perspective on it. But I wanna see with you and reporting on war and seeing the enemy, both sides, what has your research led you to in understanding what kind of war that we're at right now?
Speaker 2:So the incredible thing about my life and career for me is that I literally realized at a certain point, all these pieces just, they just locked into place. And they revealed a picture around me and I realized, wow, all this time I thought it was me charging off, you know, onto the battlefields of Angola or Mozambique or wherever and thought it was all me. And then I realized, no, God had been guiding me all that time, showing me, teaching me, exposing me and obviously I was a big participant in that. But I think it was really like my whole life was leading to this point where I could see and understand things for what they really are. I've been through all the iterations that you just described, right?
Speaker 2:One of them is understanding that in every war propaganda has been an important weapon on the battlefield. That's why they say the pen is mightier than the sword, right? Because we know the power of words and information. What has changed in the current battlefield is that information is no longer a weapon of war, it is the battlefield. And it's what is called fifth generation warfare which you've probably discussed at length on your show.
Speaker 2:General Michael Flynn and Boone Cutler wrote a book about this, it's called A Citizen's Guide to Fifth Generation Warfare. There's another book that's out, I think it's already out, which goes beyond the first one. And so for people who are not familiar, that is a very helpful way to understanding it and when you understand that, you really start to understand how they can do crazy things like say that Larry Elder is a white supremacist and you are looking at the guy, he is black. What are you talking about? Well, it's because they are creating the narrative, right?
Speaker 2:And when Larry Elder is dead and buried, right, or young people coming up or people coming to the internet who never see a picture of Larry Elder, they don't know he's black. And so they just get the narrative. And this is how Andy Ngo, who is the son of Vietnamese, you know, immigrants, right, who's openly gay. It's how they get away with saying that he's a white supremacist, right? Because they're creating a narrative and that narrative is our battlefield.
Speaker 2:Well, that extends really, right, into the whole realm of unconventional warfare. And it's you mentioned the Chinese, right, and the Chinese Communist Party. Well, two Chinese colonels wrote a book back in I think it was 1999 which was all about unconventional warfare. One of the things I've reported on extensively is how we're in the midst of drug warfare, right? The open border, the fentanyl that's and the carfentanyl and the ketamine and all these incredibly deadly synthetics that are pouring over the border in unprecedented numbers.
Speaker 2:This began with the Chinese, right? It didn't just begin there but fentanyl began as a mail order drug from China, right? Because of who? Well, thanks to the globalists, right, in this country. You know, thanks to all those Americans in their rush and they agreed to make as much money as possible who sold out our manufacturing capability to the Chinese.
Speaker 2:Well, for the globalists that's not an issue because they own the whole world, right? And their world is the digital world where there are no borders and they want to make sure that the real world catches up. But what is and so we have drug warfare, we have all these different types of unconventional warfare that the Chinese talk about. They know about drug warfare because of course in the Opium Wars, right, when they lost to the British and they lost Taiwan to the British, they never recovered from that. And they know that people who are addicts don't pay their taxes, don't write letters to Congress, don't join the Army and so on and so on, right?
Speaker 2:They don't raise stable children and stable families that are the sort of the backbone of the middle class. They don't run their own businesses or their own small farms and so on and so on. So drug warfare is an incredibly powerful weapon but it's just one in the toolbox of the Chinese Communist Party and the globalists. What all that leads to is a lot of people call it Marxism. But it isn't really Marxism.
Speaker 2:It's really a war against humanity as a whole. Because we are how did I learn that? Well, I didn't make it up. It's not my opinion. I listened.
Speaker 2:I paid attention to what this global cult is saying. And one of its main faces is that of Yuval Noah Harari and I'm sure you're familiar with who he is, right? Author of Sapiens, Israeli History Professor, Asshole in Chief as Scientific Advisor to Klaus Schwab at the World Economic Forum. In fact, worse than that, I mean, I am kind of making light of it in a sense, but the man is obviously psychotic. And yet he is in a position of extreme influence and power.
Speaker 2:Well, what does he tell us? He tells us these are the last generations of human beings. He tells us this is the end of humanity. He tells us that the age that is coming of transhumanism, right, is about the end of humanity. It's what he wrote about in Sapiens.
Speaker 2:And he is not the only one. Look at the co founder of Google who is out there doing his TED Talks, right? Which is supposed to be the most credible forum. I mean, we fawn over those making the TED Talks, right? And what does he say?
Speaker 2:Well, holds up the smartphone and he says, you know, the smartphone, this is what connects you to the brain of the world. But in the future, because through the internet, right, we're connected to the brain of the world. And in the future, this won't be separate from your body. Your brain is what will be uploaded to the cloud and it's your brain that will interface directly and connect directly to the brain of the world. Oh, wow, that sounds great.
Speaker 2:I can't wait for that. What is that? That's the end of independent thought. And all of these pieces, all of these puzzle pieces that fell into place for me, they reveal that we are we're not in a normal type of war. I mean, people have battled for control of the world from the beginning of time.
Speaker 2:So that's not a new concept. And in fact, men have fought for freedom from the moment they inhabited the earth, right? I mean, look at the Spartans. So these principles are amazing because they never change. Things that were true in the beginning are still true now.
Speaker 2:And the truth is very, very simple. It can be convoluted with layers of complexity. But when you tear away those layers, which I've always believed is my job as a journalist, in fact, it's not just a belief, it's what I have to do when I sit down to write a script. I have to tear away those layers of complexity and make it simple and easy to understand and to follow. Otherwise nobody want to watch it and nobody will understand it and nobody will care and nobody will remember it.
Speaker 2:So, it's the lifeblood of what I do is to tear away those layers and come down to the very heart. And what we are looking at is you've got people like Yvonor Harari saying that the COVID ushered in the age of mass surveillance. We see that with technology all around us, that humans are now hackable animals, right? Well, we know that because they're not hiding it, they're hacking into our DNA and altering us as we are. And when you try to understand the insanity behind saying that there are 54 genders and people can change their genders 50 times a day, it doesn't make any sense until you understand the digital world that they want us to inhabit.
Speaker 2:It doesn't make any sense until you realize, oh wait a minute, in the metaverse or in the digital gaming world, I can change my gender anytime I want to. Right? And the world of transhumanism, where we're not imprisoned by our bodies, right, and how we were created, when we are set free I am using their language now when we are set free from the limitations of our physical body and from creation. When we inhabit that world, which is controlled by them, then transhumanism and transgenderism and all of these other insane ideas, they start to make sense. And look at what they say beyond that.
Speaker 2:Well, we don't need to have elections. You all know, Harari says, this is probably our last election, presidential election in The US because with predictive AI, will know how everybody can vote. We can spare ourselves the pain of disputed elections and everything that goes with it by just leaving it to the machines, right? And, oh, by the way, we are rewriting the Bible because we didn't like how it ended. And so what else exactly are you rewriting because you didn't like the ending, right?
Speaker 2:And oh, by the way, you know, religion and God and all that is fake news. And yet in this very same moment, he says we on the verge as humans of acquiring divine power. And Elon Musk says, you know, we have the technology now to reverse aging and death can be a thing of the past with technology. And what does this all collectively add up to? Well, a small number of psychotic lunatics who for some inexplicable reason, there is no amount of power that's enough for them.
Speaker 2:They want to rule the world. They want to live forever. I can think of nothing worse than living forever. I don't know what kind of lives they've had, but I'm pretty tired. When my time comes to shuffle my mortal coil, I think I'm going to be ready, you know?
Speaker 2:I mean, I 've been loved all my life. I've gone all over the world. I have the most extraordinary children. I've met incredible people. Every day is an adventure for me.
Speaker 2:I have lived every single moment that I possibly could. I'm not ready to go yet because I have children and I'm going to fight to be here as long as I can for them and for their children. But at the end of the day, the thing that makes our lives precious, they have run the biggest con ever. And that con is that the things that make us human, our human frailty, you know, the transient nature of human life. These things that we have been taught to fear are the things that make every moment worth holding on to.
Speaker 2:They are the things that make it precious. It's like when you have a baby, you know, you'd never want that baby to grow up if you didn't pay such a high price for having this incredible love and the joy and the beauty of having this child. You would never want your toddlers to get bigger if it weren't for this tantalizing prospect that you might actually finish a thought in your head once again, right? I mean, we are living out an incredible design in the way that the world was created by God from the very first moment. And, you know, whether it's the animals around us or it's in the plants and the trees and the way the world looks when the day begins and the sun comes out.
Seth Holehouse:Alright, folks, I've got a quick message for you. I have one simple question. If today you could no longer go purchase more food for your family with the food stores that you have in your home, how long would you be able to feed your family? Would it be a week, three weeks, a month, two months, a year? This is a really important question folks that we have to be very realistic about because the elites are proactively trying to put us into a state of food crisis and a state of famine.
Seth Holehouse:I'm sure you've seen all of the different food processing plants and farms that are blowing up. You've got cattle dying by the tens of thousands. They're proactively trying to collapse our food system because they know if they can control our food, they can control us. And so one of the best ways to be outside of their control is to be able to have our own stores of food and to be able to produce our own food. So there's really two things I would recommend.
Seth Holehouse:One is having heirloom seeds that you can grow your own food with, making sure that they're non GMO heirloom seeds that that way you can harvest your seeds this year, use them next year. You can use these seeds for generations. Literally, it's how it will work. The other thing though is this high quality storable food. This is food that's sitting somewhere, it's hidden in your basement, buried in your backyard, whatever it ever it is.
Seth Holehouse:So that way if there is a crisis, if there is an emergency, you might have three months set aside to get through that time period. And so for this, I would highly recommend a company called Heaven's Harvest. This is an amazing Christian owned patriot company, and what they're doing is they're making high quality storable food. Again, lot of the food companies, they say these food buckets are all about maximizing calories per dollar. They're filling the buckets with a bunch of filler and junk like sweet beverages, etc.
Seth Holehouse:But Heaven's Harvest, they focus on very high quality food that will last up to twenty five years on the shelf. They also sell heirloom seeds. You can buy all of your seed, you can buy all of your restorable food. And look folks, personally, I would recommend having at least three months per person in your household, if not six months or even a year. Again, depends on your budget, but I'll definitely make sure you have some seeds because that seed, those seeds could be worth their weight in gold, if not more in the future.
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Speaker 2:You take it all for granted when you're little, right? When you're young, you know, we would drive all over South Africa, One of most beautiful countries on earth, my dad would say, look at this, look at that. And you're like, Dad, please, no more. No more of the beauty! But then you get to live a little, right?
Speaker 2:And my mother would say that life is the great lever and it really is true. You know, it can take can beat the living hell out of you. But there is such incredible beauty in knowing that my life, it was given to me, if I choose to give that up for my child, like if I if I had chose to step in front of a moving vehicle to protect my child, what great a gift is there that I could give that? You know, our soldiers do it all the time. I'm married to one.
Speaker 2:They put on a uniform and they go to fight for something bigger than us. And they give their lives for it. And we know how amazing that is because we honor them. And they want you to think that that human frailty, that life that you can give, that that's a weakness. Right?
Speaker 2:What is it about gods and superheroes? We are told to idolize our superheroes and what's amazing about superheroes is they never die. Do you really want to never die? Could you imagine what life would be like if we could all live forever? It's just like the seasons, you know, summer is my favorite time of year and I was thinking, what?
Speaker 2:It's the end of summer again. You know, there go the long lazy days and there goes the sunshine. And now I have to prepare, right? I have to prepare for the winter and I have to prepare for the cold and I hate being cold. But what's that thing that makes summer precious?
Speaker 2:It's knowing that it comes to an end. What's that thing that gives you hope? It's knowing that there'll be another summer. So all of this, in the way that it was created, it is the most perfect design. So when I hear people say, We have a climate crisis.
Speaker 2:We're going to run out of food. What? No, we're not. That is a lie. We know we're not because God created this world in the perfect balance in order to keep humans and plants and people alive.
Speaker 2:Carbon dioxide is a trace gas that is absolutely fundamental to life on earth. When you start to do these ridiculous things like Texas, shame on you, Governor Abbott, and every single leader in Texas that is standing by silently while they build the two biggest carbon capture plants and take carbon out of the air, right, supposedly to save us. It's not to save us, it's to starve us. It's to kill off the plants that we need. It's to kill off the animals that we need for survival and life on earth.
Speaker 2:And it's to destroy the planet. They want to interfere with the DNA of human beings. They want to hack our DNA. They've told us that, they're doing it. That's what mRNA does.
Speaker 2:That was in the vaccines, that was the experimental shot, whatever you want to call it, that was in COVID. That's what they're doing with genetically modified seeds. They're altering the DNA of the earth in Africa and other places where they're forcing these farmers to use GMO seeds because they're poverty stricken. And they're coming in and saying, we can help you with technology based farming and oh, by the way, use our seeds. And who was doing that?
Speaker 2:Bill Gates. The same people that has been responsible, you know, for murdering people with their so called medical technology that has disabled and left people disabled all across Southern Africa and Sudan and in India has resulted in young girls becoming infertile. You know, there's consistent names and faces that come up in all of this, right? But what they are at what's at the heart of it all is altering the DNA of the earth and altering our DNA. Because the one thing these people can never ever ever do is what God can do.
Speaker 2:They can't do it and that's what kills them, right, because they are counterfeiters. All artificial intelligence is, is a copy, right? It's a copy of what God created. Who are the kings of counterfeit? Your nemesis, the Chinese, the Chinese Communist Party.
Speaker 2:They are the kings of counterfeit. They never had a good idea that they didn't steal from The United States and other places in the world and other people. And I don't mean I'm not belittling the Chinese. I've spent time in China and been, you know, I don't hate anybody. I'm not belittling anybody.
Speaker 2:I have no prejudice in my heart. But the reality is that what the Chinese have mastered is the theft of other people's ideas. What the globalists have mastered is the theft of God's idea. And it is the great spiritual battle, right? The one thing that Satan can never escape is that Satan was created by God.
Speaker 2:God is the creator of it all. And they want to separate us from our humanity because we are God's creation. And they know that every single thing they do is designed, right, to be a victory against God. So they target His creation. And nothing causes more pain to God than His creation in His purest form, which is children, babies and children.
Speaker 2:Right? And when I tried to understand why would you do such terrible things to children on such scale, because with technology now, technology is really the vehicle to inflict unimaginable harm on more children than ever before in human history. Why would you do that? And why would, I mean think about this Seth, people forget that there is physical infrastructure that houses the dark web, that houses child pornography, that moves that data from one place and one person to the next, from one organised criminal network to another. It is not the cartels running the dark web.
Speaker 2:It is not the pedophiles and the traffickers who own the undersea cables or who own the data centres or who own the software and the hardware that makes all of that happen. Oh no, it's not those people who own it. It's people like Ericsson, right? The Swedish company. It's people like NuStar or NextStar.
Speaker 2:I always get them mixed up. Right? It's people like that. It's people who wear a suit and tie or a button down and go to work every day, right? It's the people that stand up at their TED Talks and at the World Economic Forum.
Speaker 2:It's those people who control all of that. Ericsson houses pornography, child pornography in more than 150 countries in the world. Every single thing that is transferred is data, whether it's money, right, on Wall Street, whether it's digital transactions that run the financial markets in the world, whether it's your photos, whether it's your secrets, whether it's your messages, your communications, whether it's the internal secret communications, communications of governments, every single one of those things is broken down into data and it moves along physical infrastructure that is owned by a small number of people. And those people are the ones who are never held to account. When Ericsson was providing location data to Islamic terrorists on the battlefield in Iraq so they could target and kill American troops.
Speaker 2:What did the American government do? Absolutely nothing. Why? Because when you control that, you control the world. You have dirt on every single person that's ever been elected, and even those who are thinking they don't even know they're going to be elected.
Speaker 2:They've already got the dirt on them, right? Not only that, but you control the means to create pathways of communication that are outside, for example, the legislative process in America, that are outside the FOIA process, that are beyond the reach of Congress, beyond subpoena power of The United States. Obama made sure of that before he left office. Handed over ownership of the internet to the global community. He didn't understand what that meant at the time.
Speaker 2:What is this amorphous entity? Well, it is not amorphous. It actually has names and faces and so does artificial intelligence. They want us to think it's all the machine, the machine, the AI, the bots, right? No.
Speaker 2:Who put, who inputted that information into the machine? Who created that program that created that bot? Who wrote the software program for that artificial intelligence product, a person with a name and a face and a physical address. All of them. They're touchable, just like you and me.
Speaker 2:They're touchable and they need to be held accountable because what we're really talking about, all these distinctions between left and right, Republican and Democrat, conservative, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, These are literally just tools of manipulation and control. That's all they are. Look at every communist regime throughout history. Look at what the Marxists do. They take their brown shirts and their black shirts and they get rid of them.
Speaker 2:They get rid of them. The squad, Antifa, you know all these Soros DAs, forget about it, okay? This army of transgender people that have been militarized, you know and indoctrinated. You're all expendable, all of you. You're just, you know, you're not first in line.
Speaker 2:First in line are the Trump supporters, right? First in line are those like you and me, those who resist, those who speak out, those who won't surrender. We're first. Oh, don't forget the Christians, right? Christians are first.
Speaker 2:But if you're Muslim or you're Jewish or you're of any faith whatsoever, they're coming for you too. They are just not coming for you first. Because in the end they believe in a godless world where there can be no religion of any kind. The only worship is to worship at the altar of darkness. And we know what that looks like, right?
Speaker 2:We can see it. There are people who deal with it every single day. The people who work in trafficking. I don't know how much your viewers can stomach, but I spoke to a Hispanic American woman who's been in trafficking for many, many decades. She started in Nicaragua and we were talking about how there's been a shift, a noticeable shift and where a lot of traffickers in the old days would force girls to have abortion, especially in America.
Speaker 2:They don't do that anymore because they want them. They're human farming. This is not new. But it wasn't always the way. Now, you know, I'm coming across stories, real victims with documented evidence, where one young girl had 17 children by her foster father who raped her over and over again.
Speaker 2:She first gave birth to twins at nine years old. Okay? And so when we talk now to people in trafficking, these girls are encouraged, in fact, many times deliberately impregnated so that they can provide babies to the trafficking world. And this one woman I spoke to said, you know, when I started out, Americans a lot of the time would have to come to Nicaragua to get babies or to The Philippines, the other place that she worked. And we talked about how long these children survived which is in some ways thankfully not that long because it's so unbearable what they are subjected to.
Speaker 2:And I asked her how long do the babies survive and she said, Oh no, no, no, no. Like, no. Mean babies don't survive long. In The Philippines what they would do is they would starve them, you know, and then they would use them for oral sex because of course the baby that starved is going to suck. And then they would asphyxiate them, they would die by asphyxiation, you know, when these men obviously finished the job.
Speaker 2:And, you know that is pure evil on earth. That is the darkness that I am talking about. What technology has done, what companies like Ericsson do and all these other tech companies that are in this tiny circle, they have connected every evil person in the world. They've given them a home, they've given them solidarity, they've helped build these networks. They provide live rapes online, okay, Where pedophiles and other sadistic people can tune in and tell people, oh, do this to her or to him or to the child, right?
Speaker 2:Where they can jump in live. Technology companies control those live streams. They control the movement of that data. They could cut it off anytime they want to. Governments could cut it off anytime they want to, but they choose not to do so.
Speaker 2:They allow the dark web to exist in a digital world where every single thing is traceable. They do absolutely nothing to stop it. And we are talking about people, there is an entire genre of pornography now called sadistic pornography, right? Hurtcore is sort of the colloquial name for it, where they come up with the most indescribable ways to hurt children and to hurt victims of trafficking. They have certain veins that they cut in advance, babies and children, because some people want them to bleed.
Speaker 2:They want a blood show when they rape them to death, right? These are real things. Every single thing that I have described for you is real. This is not based on rumor, this is based on first hand accounts. And in fact, the next series of the rest of the story with Laura Logan, my show, is going to be about trafficking because I want to get to some of the heart of these issues.
Speaker 2:And the waters have been muddied so that people will lose sight of the very, very simple truth here. And the very simple truth is that technology is not nameless, it is not without a face. Is in the hands, control is in the hands of a very small number of people. And they are truly evil. You know, one of the people that I know who has worked in trafficking for decades, an extraordinary man, he told me once, he said, Remember that the sinner is allowed to repent.
Speaker 2:But the wicked, right? The wicked spit in the eye of God. And these people are wicked. They spit in the eye of God every chance they get because the more pain they can inflict on God through God's creation, that's their goal. That's their goal.
Speaker 2:Because, you know, the Prince of Darkness, Satan himself, can never ever, ever overcome the fact that there is only one creator, and it's not him.
Seth Holehouse:Hey, folks. I've got a quick message for you. So I'm sure you've heard a lot of people, myself included, talking about the importance of buying precious metals, gold and silver. But what's really behind that? Is it just a thing of, hey, buy this gold, buy this silver.
Seth Holehouse:Right? Or is there something deeper that we should be looking at? So I recently came across some figures about house prices. So in 1930, the average family home was approximately $4,000. Fast forward to 2023, the average family home is just over $400,000.
Seth Holehouse:So you have to ask yourself, why is that? Is it because things have just gotten more expensive? No, it's actually because the dollar has lost 99% of its value since 1930. Right? When people talk about the collapse the dollar or inflation, this is what it means.
Seth Holehouse:Now let's take a look at gold. So in 1930, if you wanted to purchase your home in gold, it would take approximately 200 gold coins. So 200 gold coins would purchase the average family home in 1930, about $4,000. Now, if you instead of buying a home with that gold or cash, you set those aside. If you set aside $4,000 in cash in 1930, it would be worth $4,000 today.
Seth Holehouse:What can you buy with $4,000? Can you buy a family home? No, you can't even buy a crappy used car. But if you set aside $4,000 worth of gold coins in 1930, which is 200 gold coins, 1 ounce coins, that would be worth approximately $400,000 today. And this is the key lesson about precious metals.
Seth Holehouse:It's not about getting rich. It's about putting your money into an asset that protects you against inflation and against the destruction of the currency, which is what happens to all fiat currencies, especially now we're in the end days of the dollar. And so that's why it's important, maybe not all of your money, but a portion of your money, a portion of what you have, I highly recommend putting it into precious metals of gold and silver because what it's doing is it's protecting you. This is an asset that has stood the test of time, not just stood the test of time since the 1930s, we're talking about the rise and fall of civilizations. Gold was used to buy houses back in ancient Rome.
Seth Holehouse:It's still around. It's an asset that will forever have its value. So folks, if you want to do this and you need someone you can trust, there's no person I can recommend more than Doctor. Kirk Elliott. He's a very good friend of mine.
Seth Holehouse:He's a strong Christian patriot, and he's out to really help people to protect their savings and what you've worked for against the destruction of the dollar, not to mention also protecting it against the dangers of a central bank digital currencies. So to learn more about this, go to goldwithseth.com or call (720) 605-3900. Again, that's goldwithseth.com or (720) 605-3900. Both those places will allow you to set up a quick appointment where you can talk to a wealth advisor that will help get you started on this path. Again, goldwithseth.com 7 2 0 6 0 5 3 9 0 zero.
Seth Holehouse:There's so many things you said that just hit my soul. And, you know, you mentioned in there your role as a journalist and as an investigator, and how it's really about peeling off the layers to get down to what is the heart of the matter. And, you know, we talked before we started recording about, you know, my perspective. I don't focus on a lot of the day to day news and, you know, this what this senator is saying. And and I agree.
Seth Holehouse:Those, I think, oftentimes are tools to keep people focused on the wrong things. And in my own research, whether it's getting into the Committee of three hundred or the bloodlines or whatever it is, you keep peeling that onion. And the deeper you get, it doesn't matter how what place you start at, you always end up on a simple fact that we're up against Satan.
Speaker 2:Mhmm.
Seth Holehouse:And it's it simplifies the entirety of the discussion into one simple fact that this is good versus evil. And even when I hear about these atrocities, I've interviewed people that have done, you know, deep work with human trafficking and child sex trafficking, and I've I've heard some of these horrible stories. And when I think about that, the only explanation I can come to is that those people that do that are no longer human. That whatever way the soul that the human soul is in their body that's been disconnected, and there's something else there. There's a demon there that I think that I think that that's true that that they're literally they're demons that are walking among us taking the form of humans and that we're at the stage where it's the evil has filled the earth.
Seth Holehouse:But on the flip side, I also look at that and believe that next to people like you going into these dark places and other people that there are armies of angels. Because even though that feels like there's a war of darkness against this world, there's also there's the pushback of God and the angels against that darkness. And that also brings me hope and security that as evil as it all feels, I also find that there's this massive revival, there's this pushback. It's like their plan to drive us into this transhumanist future to destroy the DNA of God, to destroy the children of God, and destroy all that sacred and all that's innocent and pure in this world has backfired. And there's some people that have walked knowingly into that pit of hell with them.
Seth Holehouse:But I think that for so many people, they're saying, wait, why is Sam Smith performing satanic rituals on stage? I don't want this anymore. Why is it that Netflix is promoting Lucifer and this and that, and never one of the Angel Studios videos on the home screen? So people are rejecting it, and they're fighting back against it. And at the note, you know, no short thanks to people like you making people aware because you mentioned that this being information war, fifth generation warfare, and knowledge is the weapon.
Seth Holehouse:And their weapon is giving people false knowledge. They think they're doing what is going be fighting the evil, but it's not. And anyway, I just I think that there's so many points that you talked about that ring so true to where humanity is at right now.
Speaker 2:Well, me challenge you on one part of that. Because I agree with you about the armies of angels. Right? But I want to tell you something that I learned a long time ago when I was at sixty Minutes and I was working on a story. And I would love to know if this changes your perception at all.
Speaker 2:Because it was very interesting. I was doing a story with a French Catholic priest, Fr. Patrick Debrois. And you know, it's not often that you come across something as big as the second world war, right? That is a historic subject of epic proportions and you think we know everything about it and then you discover, wait a minute, actually what we knew was all based on what happened in Western Europe and because overnight when the war ended our great allies, the Russians who were critical in defeating the Nazis suddenly inexplicably became our instant enemies in the Cold War.
Speaker 2:You know, we don't question that. We just go along with that narrative. But what I didn't really realize until I discovered the work of Father Debroit was that our understanding of what happened in the Second World War was based almost entirely on what happened in the West and that Hitler had very different policies in East And Western Europe. So in the West, had Auschwitz and all of the concentration camps. What did you have in the East?
Speaker 2:You had the Einsatzgruppen, his mobile killing squads who were tasked with going from village to village to village to city to village and so on to cover every square inch of ground and hunt down every last Jew. And it was a policy of total annihilation, right? As Father Debroit would say to me, if Hitler were alive, had survived or had won, there would not be one Jew alive, left in the whole of Eastern Europe, right? That was the goal. And why am I telling you about this?
Speaker 2:Well, because one thing that Father Debord said to me, and he went all throughout Eastern Europe, he went to village after village, he did thousands, I'm talking about thousands upon thousands of interviews. He would go back to the same person, he was a phenomenal interviewer and he would do little things, you know, like he would say, It was cold in your dress, you know, in your Sunday best. And they would say, Oh no, you know, I was happy to wear my best dress because I wanted to look nice. You know, there were little ways that he would that he had figured out over the years to get people to tell him things. Like if he said, did you dress up for the massacre?
Speaker 2:They would have said no, you know, if you went head on. So he was really strategic about his questioning. And what he said to me was that one of the many things that he learned is that people know how to kill like a dog knows how to swim. You throw a dog in water and there's a good chance that dog is making it to the riverbank or to the edge of the pool or whatever it is, that we like to say that killing is inhumane because it allows us to separate from the act. It allows us a degree of distance and in that distance we can avoid responsibility.
Speaker 2:Because we are now saying, oh this is inhuman, so this is not something I would do. This is inhuman. But he says actually the ability to do this lives in every single one of us. And making different choices, making conscious choices, living in a different way and taking another path is about recognising and understanding that this potential for evil lives in every one of us. I mean, think about it, Seth.
Speaker 2:Those children, right, that wife of yours and that family, if they were threatened, if somebody came into your home and was trying to kill them and you, you would find a way. You would know how to kill, Right? I mean, sorry, you would figure out how to kill. And so, you know, when I spent time with Father Debroit, I realized, wow, it really is true. I mean, look at all these people that line up to go into the military or to go into the police.
Speaker 2:When that moment comes, they know how to kill. Killing and cruelty is a very human condition. But what we have been given is free will. We have been given the will to choose something else, the will and the ability and the freedom to make a different choice. Those that don't make a different choice, those that choose the path of evil, they're not possessed by demons.
Speaker 2:They're very, very human, living out very human choices. And they need to be held accountable, not as demons, but as humans. And they need to not be allowed to evade responsibility. And that keeps us honest, right? That keeps us true to ourselves and our own choices and our own responsibilities.
Speaker 2:Understanding it, recognizing it, and choosing a different way, I think makes sense to me. I don't know how you feel about that.
Seth Holehouse:It's a really good point. It's a very good point because I you know, one thing that I learned in reading a lot of Jordan Peterson's works and watching a lot of him, for instance, was how he talked about the importance of recognizing that we're capable of doing those things. And when a lot of people look back at say, Nazi Germany, and they said it never would have been me. When you look at what happened during COVID, and actually, I think a lot of people would have been the ones that were pulling the gas chamber levers, right, if they could have because they they gave into that. So I I certainly agree with you that, well, fundamentally that you can't let anybody off.
Seth Holehouse:And maybe to say you have Bob Smith who's raped 100 children and is whatever, you can't say that well, he's actually a demon. So, you know, we have to classify him differently. So, and maybe it's it's that, you know, that there are people inhabiting these bodies that are so heavily influenced by those demons on their shoulders. They might as well be demons. But in my opinion, it's like, well, if if a demon's if a person is at that level, then they no longer deserve to be human.
Seth Holehouse:They no longer to they no longer deserve to be participating in this world with the rest of us trying our best to be good. But I I certainly agree, though, that it's actually really important. It's really important, I think, especially for those of us that feel like we're on the right path and that feel like that we are fighting for good in this world, that we also have to be very conscious of the fact that we're capable of that level of evil. I think that's also very important as well. I I
Speaker 2:it to God. You know, that for me is where I give it to God. Right? I can't control those people. I have no power over them.
Speaker 2:I don't worry about them in that sense. You know, my purpose is to expose the truth about who they are and what they do. And I know that the only thing protecting me and keeping me alive is God and the angels that He puts on my shoulders because they're so much more powerful than me. I mean, they've attacked me over and over and over again. They've tried to destroy me, I don't know how many times, and they're just going to keep attacking me, right?
Speaker 2:Because I'm like a fly that just won't die, right? They keep swatting. And somehow when they lift up their hand, there she goes again, you know. And I'm sure, you know, there's many others like me, right, that just won't die. We won't take any, we won't submit.
Speaker 2:And I mean, for me personally, it's I think it's such a challenge. Every day is a battle for survival in this world and also a battle to make sure that I stay close to God, right? I mean, that's a daunting but important task. And it takes a lot. And so I don't think about what happens to the demons because I know that vengeance is mine, said the Lord.
Speaker 2:Right? And so what I worry about is my responsibilities to God. That's what I worry about. Like one of them is that my children are supposed to know God. So do they know God?
Speaker 2:Do they know God well enough that should that moment ever come, they're with me, not leaving them behind, you know. And I don't control their choices, but all I can do is make sure that I live up to my responsibilities. And so I find that that is so all consuming, you know, especially when thrown in with the I have three teenagers, okay? And nobody writes books about that. They write all the books about giving birth and, you know, babies and toddlers and all the rest of but they don't warn you about the teenage years.
Speaker 2:And so that in itself is a whole another thing. And keeping your children close to you in this time when there are so many forces trying to separate us. Because that space when they separate us from God, and they separate us from our children, and they separate us from each other, that is the space for the darkness to fill.
Seth Holehouse:Exactly.
Speaker 2:And so, you know, that's really my focus. And it takes every ounce of energy that I have. Honestly, it really does. I don't even understand. I'm a terrible disappointment as a friend these days, you know, because I just, I don't even have a second left in the day.
Seth Holehouse:Which makes me very grateful that you found time for me today. I really do appreciate that. And gosh, I feel like I think we could go for ten more hours. And I think we're just scratching the surface. But I know that you've got other commitments I don't wanna I don't wanna keep you.
Seth Holehouse:Before we sign off, though, I just wanna bring out know you've been very busy with, the show that you're doing, which is absolutely incredible. I'll just pull up the the Twitter page for with the truth in media, I've I shared this on Twitter. I'll make sure it's also in the in the description. But the rest of the story with Laura Logan. So can you give us just the elevator, you know, kind of understanding of what is this?
Seth Holehouse:Where can people watch this?
Speaker 2:Well, they can see it on X or Twitter, whatever you want to call it on Truth and Media site, or they can search my name or the rest of the story with Zara Logan. It's also on Sovereign Media online. And I think that so far the response has been kind of unbelievable, Seth. I'm reeling in a sense because we're a very small team and the weekly deadlines are absolute murder. And it's just kind of, I mean, I'm just doing what I've always done, but I'm doing it with a fraction of the resources and a tiny number of people.
Speaker 2:And yet somehow the magic of real storytelling and diligent journalism, right, and investigating and vetting and the discipline of trying to stay true to the principles of the craft and be as objective as you can in the process and be honest about your subjective decisions and observations. I mean, it's a really extraordinary thing when it comes together And there's so few people actually doing this that it's really struck a chord with many out there. And I'm just constantly surprised every week when we make that deadline and I see it come together and I realise, wow, it's a hard road, but it really is worth it. And so, so many people are coming up to me and writing to me and reaching out to say that they have seen it. And that means a lot because I want to reach as many people as possible.
Seth Holehouse:Well, you are a treasure. And what you're doing, I think is such important work because it is a war. It's an information war and you are the tip of the spear with what you've been doing. And I just thank you for what what you've been doing and the amount of truth you've been bringing to people. And again, thank you for coming on the show with me.
Seth Holehouse:It is such an honor to sit down with you today.
Speaker 2:You're very gracious and so kind. Thank you.
Seth Holehouse:All right. Well, take care, Laura.
Speaker 2:Alright. You too. Bye bye.