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Indigenous Wisdom is about opening yourself up and getting to know yourself better as a Human being on this Earth. In this podcast, Julia shares messages, channeled wisdom, and more to support your wisdom journey.
Welcome back to the Indigenous Wisdom Podcast. Mírale. I'm back with Juliana Guerrero, my granddaughter, and, uh, apprenticed, and
mover and shaker of the world of the human realm and nonphysical realm at the same time. Oh, do you think I like her? Mm-hmm. Yeah, well, [laughs] this is part two of our conversation, and many other conversations that we'll be having. And this conversation basically is labeled Being Woke conversation. Mm-hmm. Come on, Juliana. Shall we get into this?
Yes. As always, always blessed and happy to be here, and to just go right into the conversation.
Okay. [laughs] Well, we had some prompts, uh, some questions, and one of the ones that, uh... We have, uh, like three more, I think. And so one of the ones that I would like to just jump right into is, um,
Juliana, how has, you know, just this understanding of what it truly means to be awake and connected. And I'm gonna use this phrase female frequency of being. And
what that means is in this world, this over culture, the whole world, it's been very patriarchical for a long time. You know, it's like do, do, do, do. When I say female frequency of being, I'm talking about the creation of the movement of everything. So for a long time, our ancestors were here. They, they lived with the land. They still do, but I mean, they lived with the land, they connected with the land. There was no separation, to be honest, right? And then things happen, over culture came in, a lot of male or things like that. Well, let's just say what happened, right? And
yeah, and then there was this huge separation of whatever. So female frequency of being means to create, to recreate. So
how does that our ancestors... A- and it's kind of a rhetorical question in a lot of ways, um, inform our understanding of what it really means to be awake and connected to that part of us? Juliana, you have any thoughts on that?
Yeah. I feel so many thoughts and connections to this one. And even personally, I was thinking about this for myself, like, what does this fully mean, right? And how to be awake yourself. And
in terms of staying awake, and being awake, and getting that support is definitely the physical peeps, which is the people like my grandmother, my mother, and my family, and my sister, and my... and so forth. But it's also my ancestors are the ones that have
walked this path before, and have that understanding of the physical and the nonphysical, and guide me, and tell me, like, what I'm doing,
or if that's right, or if that's wrong, or tell me this is amazing, right? If I'm doing so well at something of, like, when I
graduated, I remember just feeling so much, like, being presence and being in that physical and nonphysical. Like,
recognizing that for myself to see where I wanted to go in my career, and I feel like I would not have been able to do that without my ancestors. And then I also see them when, and feel them when things can be challenging. Like, now it's such a hard time, and I think 2026 as a whole is a really challenging time, and it feels so many things are happening under our current administration that I have to... When I physically not sure how to, like, get out of it, I can lean back, I think, on my ancestors and say like, "What the heck?" Like, "What is going on?" And, and just kind of getting that reassurance about it's okay as long as you s- you know, stay awake, as long as you're staying present with yourself, it's gonna be good. Like, so... And knowing that they've als- have been through those times, right? They've probably been through their own challenges, and they know what that looks like. And so many generations behind me that are looking out for me, and that cared for me, and love me,
[sniffs] and guide my whole tribe. Um, and I think
in connection to the other part of this question about being connected to the female frequency of being, I feel so much of that ancestral knowledge and that so much of, like, ancestral preservation, I think, comes from the women because of, like, what we've talked about and how women carry... In my understanding, when they, like, give birth, right, they were carrying the DNA for the generations, so they hold
the ancestral wisdom and the, and everything so forth, right? Even everything that comes with,
um, a family and generation. Um,
and that is passed on. So, and to me, I think that's what it means being the female frequency of being. It's just like everything our mothers have given us, and our mothers before us, and so forth. Um, and just reminds me of, like, how connected we really are as, like, women, and I think that's why I can go a little bit over there. But like, oh, I feel like women just see each other and understand each other. Like, you can see someone on the street and you're just like, "Oh, my gosh." Like, "You look so great today." We get this connection with each other, and I think it's just we've always been connected, and I don't know how to explain that. I think that's what I wish... The main part of this question is that women are just always so connected. Um, and you can probably, and I, I strongly believe that that's where that comes from. It's probably been there for, since our, the beginning of our ancestors, and women knew how to protect each other, and nurture each other, and be a community to one another, um, is the best way I can describe it.
Oh, I love that, Juliana. That is beautiful. Yeah, I just, I, I just wanna share with tho- those of you that are listening-Mirale. This isn't like putting down the male energy. Oh, heck no. I like men. [laughs] You're married to a man, you know? Like, I'm a heterosexual female, and I love men. I think they're amazing and wonderful. And
so it's not about that. I'm talking about the female frequency of being that has been squashed for a long time, and maybe some-
Yeah
... people may beg to differ on that, but I don't think so. Yeah. And I think in the United States-
Mm
... the over culture as we know, a lot of things been, uh, overturned here and there and, you know, Supreme Court and all that be getting real. And it's like, "What? What the F is going on here?" kind of deal. So that awakening and the connection to the female frequency, as you shared right now, Juliana, is so important. And you're young. You're in your 20s still, yeah? And you're like, okay, I'm sure you have friends that, uh, may not have the community that you have in your own personal life. And
can you share how they may be dealing with what's going on right now?
Yeah. Ooh, that's a good question. I think
for me, I ha- the way I just described what I just described, right, being able to lean back on my ancestors, right, and the physical peeps,
I'm aware that I have people who I can lean on. So I'm i- I'm trying to imagine that people that maybe don't have that support, right? I think it can be really challenging, and maybe looking at things maybe like social media is where I think people my age would maybe, maybe fall into and just kind of looking at what these celebrities or what other people are saying or even, like, influencers and people are saying, like, "Buy this or do that," and getting easily influenced to, like, buying something that's going to fix a problem that maybe
didn't need to be fixed, right? And kind of just like change this about yourself or do that about yourself. So it's kind of following and blindly kind of looking at people. And we know that al- this algorithm can kind of push something that maybe
they think you want, but it's not always what you, you need, um, is kinda how I wanna look at that. And
this will obviously tie into, I think, a lot of the other questions and the other things we've been think- we're talking about is that, yes, I think it can be easy to fall into the traps of, like, what other people say, even if it's, like, other women that are talking about like, "Here, buy my supplements," or, "Buy this," or, "Buy my bag [laughs] that I made." Right? So then it, it becomes more of, like, another
kind of thing. Um, but I think it really goes back to just, like, what do you need? What do you want? Like, what do you need for yourself? And that's different for everybody. It's not gonna be like what this other person tells you that you should have. It's, like, something you should figure out for you. Um,
and I think that's what we need, and then finding someone that you can share that with. It's like instead of maybe...
There needs to be a way to, like, explain what you need. Um, maybe I can give an example of, like, we have a community in SWAL, and sometimes when I feel overloaded, I may text. Like, we have like a group chat, right? We have, like, a messaging system. And I'll just be like, "I really need help with, like, getting through this week. Can y'all just give me some support?" And or like, "Give me some love and some feelings." And just even that, pushing that out there and putting out to people that love me and trust me and, like, see me for who I am, um, is so profound, and I think that's what everybody needs, right? And being able to go to a group of people that can see you and not judge you and see you for who you are. So that's what I think people should, should find and seek if they're looking around my age group, right? And maybe it's a good idea to start looking for that and maybe finding people that you-
Yeah
... you know, can connect with.
That you resonate with, right? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, the, uh, y- you mentioned the social media, and we talked about that in, in part one. Yeah. And I, it, it, it's easy to get, whoa. [laughs] I don't know what else to say. It's just like, you know, whether your 20s or, and my age, you know, early 70s, I, I mentioned in the first part that I got, like, totally, oof, yeah. I mean, I was seeing things like I, I'm gonna go over there. I was like, I, I'm 70, the algorithm, and every time I'd look, I'd go, "Oh, shucks. I better get that, or else every, my bits are gonna fall apart," you know? Or, "I better get that," or, you know, or [laughs] you know, it was just going crazy, yeah? And it's, yeah, it's ooh,
chihuahua. So I'm like, okay, you need to do, like, just this is my own personal choice. I just said, "Okay, get off the thing. Get off the social. Start building your own community," um, you know, like besides the, you know, the, the group that you're in. You know, just other things that people can just come in and just talk story and talk amongst themselves where there's support and love and caring, right? So the female frequency of being is about finding your, your tribe, finding your birds of a feather flock together. And
I guess it's like where, you know,
you know, like, where do that which we need to find, yeah, which is a challenge. Yeah. And so I think that we're gonna, I don't think, we're gonna answer that a little bit more as we go along because that's a great question, where. You know? I'm... Yes, definitely. We have a lot of fun and good things like the, [laughs] the dragonfly chisme. [laughs] The dragonfly chisme. I love that one. We're working on that one right now to, to, you know, just to bring more folks in that could come in and just visit with each other. You don't have to love dragonfliesBut, and knowing that which, you know, it's just a fun thing. There's a, it's a good, you know, it's a good frequency of being those guys.
So I'm, I'm curious, Miha, you did share, and it's up to you, uh, share a story about, you know, that moment where you saw that, that shift within self where the, you just kind of went, "Oh, I, I know this." Because you're talk- we're talking about our ancestors, we're talking about those that have come before us. I, yeah. And then you went, "Oh. Oh my gosh, I feel this awakening within myself." But I, I call it awakening, but I call it more like the knowing within, the remembrance of the genius within self, the ge- you know, all of that. So do you have something that you might wanna share? And we talked about a few things before we po- I mean, pre, um, you know, talking story, you know, before we, we jumped on to the, to the podcast. But you don't have to share that one. You can share whatever you choose to that you feel comfortable with.
I, uh, I'm open to sharing it because it is the one that comes to my mind the most, and it is the one that centers me when I talk about,
or even really think about myself in terms of being
connected to, to both worlds, and it's my reminder, and maybe it's
something that could resonate with other people. So yeah, I'm open to sharing that and, like, explaining how this looks for me, and then maybe,
you know, then people can understand this is an example of what this internal awakening looks like.
Th- so I think, are you talking about Montana, right?
At Dancing Spirit Ranch, yeah. I think that was 2018 or 2019, somewhere in there. It was before 2020. Eh, we don't talk about that. [laughs] So actually it was a pretty good experience, yeah.
So yeah, it, it was definitely before COVID, and it was one of our first retreats at Dancing Spirit Ranch in Montana. And yeah, always good times, always moments where I felt so
connected and able to hear that piece of myself. So I... And when I was really... And in that time, if we're looking, I can't remember the, pinpoint the exact year, 'cause 2018, 2019 is when I really was like, "Okay, I need to start waking up again." And that was that recognition. Um,
so do I just go into the story?
Oh, yeah. Go for it. Mm-hmm.
Yeah. So it was towards the later part of the retreat, and it was, I think it was the end, like the closing ceremony, and that's how I remember it. And previously, like the day before, I was given a tour of, like, the property and, like, the different parts of it. And they showed me, like, this part where we can go, and it was to see, like, where one of the sites that my grandma had wanted me to take e- everybody, and it was, like, huge, right? And there was just so many ways and so many entry points to get to the site that we wanted to go to. Um,
and I just drove around with one of, um, the people overseeing the land, right? And it was beautiful, and I was just like, "Oh my gosh, this is so amazing." And
as we are moving towards the closing ceremony on the next day, and I was thinking about how to get to that location, I was like, "Oh, okay. Maybe I'll take this path, this way that I was shown," right? And it's, like, all the way in the back in the very far depths, I think, to get to where we needed to go. [laughs] And I... You know, we drove the... We had, like, golf carts to get around because it was, like, so many different ways, um, and there was, you know, a big group of us going as well. And so we made sure that we had to go, so I was just easily being there, even just in those moments of the golf cart and having, I think it was, like, maybe six of us, and, like, three in each cart, and then they were like, "Where are we going?" And I would just be like, "Okay, turn here, and then turn there." So even in that moment, I was like, "Oh, I..." I kind of felt myself feeling connected to that, of, like, the memory, the remembrance of where it was, and just going here, going there. And then we kept going, kept going, and then I had a small moment where I was like, "Do I know where I'm going?" And that, like, just that question itself interrupted the flow, so the, the flow that you get when you're so connect- in that stream. And I was like, "Oh, shoot." And
they were asking me, "Okay, where are we going? Where are we... What's next?" And it was, like, this big open space, and I was like, "I don't know."
[laughs]
And [laughs]
I'm being very honest with this. Like, this is, like, me slowing down and remembering every little step of this moment, and I was like, "Oh, no." And it was huge. It's so like a giant maze, right? Like, you're in the middle of the corn maze or, like, in the middle of doing, like, coloring, and then you're just, like, stuck in the middle and you're like, "Where am I at?" I was like, "Oh, no." And then everyone was just like, "Well, is it over here? Is it over there? Do you think it's this? Do you think it's that?" So we all got out of the golf carts, and I was just standing there and I was like, "Okay, I need to just, like,
focus, or I need to be with myself, um, like, present." And I just, like, took this breath and I was just like, "Okay, I can do this." And I just started seeing, like, this
lavender, and I think that was the color that it was. And
I saw this little girl, and I... It was, it was, we talked about it later who the little girl was, but it
was this little girl that was, like, looking at me, and I was like, "Oh my goodness." And she was, like, telling me, "Come this way with... I know where it is. I, I remember we went this way." And I was like, "Yes." And I was like, "Okay, I know where it is." And then-She just starts running and she just like this beautiful, like, trail, her walking. And I was like, "Okay, I'm gonna follow it." And then I, I had, I think, my grandma's, like, snow boots on, her jacket. It was, like, in the middle of winter, and, like, all these clothes on, and I was... And I just started running. Like, I just ran. And, like, I had... I remember having all this stuff on, and I just ran, and I just, like, followed her all the way through. And
in that moment of running, I'm not a runner. If you know me, I don't run. I, I don't ever do that. It was like I felt like I had run my whole life. It, it was the most, like...
I just feel like I was floating. Like, it just felt like
a whole beautiful exper- Like, s- I ca- There's no words to describe that feeling.
It is beyond anything that, like,
the physical can describe. And it was just, like, instantaneous, like of me just going and f- And we made it perfectly to the location, like, all the way, and it was just perfectly lit up by the, this gorgeous, beautiful, like, lavender trail that this sweet little girl that showed us. And I made it. I was just running. And I think the part of it that sticks out to me that I didn't know at that moment [sniffs] was
my Aunt Hopey was there, right? You know, your sister, Gigi. And she...
And the lady saw me 'cause I was like, "Okay, now that I found the location, I need to go back." So I had gone to where I needed the endpoint. I was like, "I found it." And then I ran all the way back, and I was just running back, right? Just, just, like, flying through. And I was, like, standing up there, and I was like, "Hey," like, "Come over here," like, waving my hands. And
I heard this later through the ladies, like, they were like, "Oh..." Like, my aunt was saying, "Oh, my gosh. Is that a deer? Like, is that a deer there?" And then the other people that were there were like, "No, that's Juliana." Like, "That's her s- standing there." And then so it was this moment of, like,
me running through the woods and being connected and seeing this little girl. I was just... And seeing
and stepping into this physical and then the nonphysical, my understanding is becoming the white-tailed deer that were there and, like, fully being in harmonious with that. And
that is the experience that I always carry with me and hold with me and remind me of, like, wow, I can really do that and, like, really step into
me. Like, there's no other word to say. Like, that's, that's me [laughs] and
to be in tune with myself and in tune with this planet. I was just like, it... I'm so blessed and so happy to have that moment, and that's easily what I hold onto and remember that awakening. And w- what better way to experience that with the people that I love and with the land that I love and, yeah.
Oh, my goodness, Juliana.
We haven't talked about that for a while. I mean, we, we, we make references to it every now and then. Yeah. I would like to share what my sister said. Um, now my sister Hope... I have six sisters. Well,
five now. But the majority of them will say, "Blah, blah, blah," but I don't see like Jules'. They call me Jules', sees, you know? And I go, "No, everybody has that." "No, no, you see more than we do," whatever, you know. So, so they've always had this, you know, desire of being able to see, see like I do, awaken fully, but I, I think they do
in their own way or their own right.
So I remember my sister Hope, uh, being totally out of breath when she shared this with me because she goes, "Jules,
I keep telling the ladies, 'Look at the deer.'" And they go, "No, that's Juliana," because they saw you running. Yeah. And my sister saw this white-tailed deer running, and she's like, "Oh, my gosh. Look at the deer. Look at that beautiful deer running. Look at it leaping." I mean, she went into detail about this deer. [laughs] And the ladies kept saying, "No, that's Juliana." [laughs] She goes, "No, that's a deer." [laughs] So, so she said, in a moment, she just said, "Okay, I guess it's Juliana." And in that second, split second, she saw you. The deer was gone, and you were there. And she talked about that for quite a whiles later, years later and said, "I did see the deer." I said, "Yes, you did, sis." [laughs] You did. She goes, "Is that how you see things?" I said, "Yeah, there's more," but, you know, yeah, yeah, you saw the deer, but, see, that whole thing what you shared, Juliana, that was a witness
to that witch. I mean, I saw it remotely. I said, "Whoa, look at this," right? And I'm not saying that the ladies that didn't see the deer didn't see. All I'm saying is that
you... I think a lot of times, most of the time, we need kind of witnesses to see that witch, yeah? And so your Auntie Hopey did see you in the white-tailed deer, and that helped her through the years
when she sees something that nobody else sees to stick with that because there's a feeling behind it. There's, um, internal, physical... Everybody sees things differently. When I say see things differently, not nec- through the eyes, right? But there's a feeling or emotion or res- w- in our bodies, our human bodies. We go, "Oh, my gosh. Look at that. Like, whoa." And it's a calmness with them. It's not an over-exuberating thing. It can be here and there. So what an awakening, mija, right? You being awoke with, um,
your ancestors, right?
I feel so, like, I don't know. There's no other words to describe it, and there's no other to-There's nothing else to expand on because that moment was, is, and there's nothing more. I- it's, it's this feeling, and then again, no, I cannot describe that feeling to somebody because I think exactly what my Gigi is talking about, you know? It's
personal, and it's different for each person, and
the way I may describe it to someone else, they may be like, "Well, maybe this or maybe that." So I think there's so much difference, and then
what also you're talking about, too, is just, like, having that witness and then that also trusting that what you experienced and what you felt is real. And that's why I'm,
I'm sharing the story because the more I feel like I s- tell it, the more I remember it, the more I recognize it, or someone tells me, "Oh, you remember that? You remember when you did that?" At first I felt maybe not...
It wasn't shame, but it was more, like, shyness. Like, "Oh, did that really happen? I don't know." [laughs] 'Cause I'm a very, can be very timid sometimes, a very, like, "Oh, I didn't do that," very, like, trying to be like whatevers. But it, a, this, with this moment, the more that I feel like I see it and understand it, I'm like, "Oh yeah, I did that. I definitely had this moment," and
accepting that for myself and not being afraid and really seeing me. So that's, that's what it is. It's seeing yourself and being able to recognize who you are, and no one else can tell you who that is.
Exactly. No one. Not me, not anyone, not even my sister Hope. Right? You know, like, uh, uh, uh, and her, and her, you know, like, everybody kept saying, "No, that's not... That's Juliana." [laughs] "What are you saying? That's a, [laughs] a white-tailed deer. [laughs] That is not... What is wr-" No, they didn't say this. They did not say this. You know, like, "What is wrong with you?" But she was in her head thinking. That split second when she belie- okay, it's her, then she saw you in the physical form, and that was like... Actually, I don't like to use this. It's a human life-changing. It really does bring in the two worlds together. You see more, right? They're together already. We're walking them 24/7. When we, when we have that understanding of self, that we have all the answers with them, and then we're walking our ancestors whether we know that or not, especially during these times. Yeah, I hear that over and over again. Um, I've been around for quite a while, and I feel folks are sharing the same thing with me. "Have you ever seen this before, Julia?" I said, "No."
[laughs] You know. You know what's happening. I said, I said, "I had an understanding things were gonna, you know, da, da, da, but no, no, not, not really." So we need this now. Juliana, thank you so much for sharing that. That, mirale, that is so true. It's not... Yeah, it's your story, and I thank you so much for, you know, like, oh, I don't know how else, yeah. It's, there, there are no words. That's why I'm looking for words. Mirale, no, no words.
[laughs]
[laughs]
Yeah. I'm like, what? Yeah. Um,
you know, listening to that, which, and then people are going, "Wow, I wanna, like, see me in the fullness of myself.
I wanna see me in the fullness of myself. I wanna see me in the fullness of myself." How do they even begin to do that, yeah?
We're going back to that, which I'm gonna add a little something there before, you know...
I... Sharing your story, yes, mija, and being the example
for others that are, you know, people that we love. As you know, we have people in our own immediate family, uh, that are wanting that aw- awoke-ness or awakeness, that coming back home to self, right? In, in the most profound ways, and,
and yet at times I find myself
going, "Huh, I don't think they..." I mean, not like, "You, who do you... Don't you know who I am?" You know, uh, not in that way. I'm just going, "Huh, that...
No." [laughs] I, you know that I know that I know that I know, right? So
in, in that realm, even my sister Hope, sometimes she'll share things, and she'll go, "Oh yeah, you probably know that." And I, and I just... Now in my younger days, I would go, "Yeah, of course I know that," kinda sounding snooty, but I didn't mean to. It's just that I'd leaned so far into that other realm, it just seemed, like, normal to me. My understanding when you share, Juliana, info to me, I mean, you've been with me since day one, prior to even you being here in the human realm, and I find at times where you'll ask me a question, and I'll go,
I feel, not that you're not listening. You totally are listening, totally, right? But I'm going, "Oh, I just assumed she knew that. She's been hanging out with me," right? And that's because there's this part of me that has this understanding. And so I'm like, "Okay, then I have to listen. I have to listen deeply to you
and your questions," and listening deeply to those questions without going,
"Oh, I'm not, I'm not giving her the... How can she not know this? I, I've been with her. Did I do something wrong?" That's where I go, yeah. I, did I not say the right thing that she didn't understand? No. It's just that
we don't know everything.
[laughs] So it's the knowing within. It's the awakening, the constant awakening to the all, right? That's, yeah. So with our family and friends and those that want, that are, um, that are beginning to say, "You know what? I wanna wake up in the healthiest way that I can be"-How do I do this? How do I get started?
Yeah. I, a lot of thoughts are coming to mind. I think easily for me, and, and the way that I think of this is because of, I've been with my grandmother for as long as I can remember, is really just
maybe start asking those questions. I think that's the simplest way to start thinking about it. Or, you know, being able to go and reflect maybe for yourself,
and then think a little bit maybe, like, a world perspective, and then maybe even bigger. We have even, like, those universal questions of, like, creator and, like,
what's beyond, right? So just maybe making those connections,
and maybe asking for yourself, and maybe you'll start hearing those responses from the peeps or your ancestors or your guides,
whatever you may call them, right? It ... Whoever you may s- see and who you have may start talking to you and giving you those answers and those responses, right?
[smacks lips] And trusting the truth of, like, my grandma or what Gigi always tells me, that, like,
when she tells me things, 'cause she's my person that I go to if I need to, or now I'm learning how to s- this, this moment that I shared with everybody is ... I share this because it's my internal awakening to where maybe I don't have to ask. And I think this is the next step. Maybe I don't have to ask this question to my grandma. Maybe I need to ask myself this question and then hear it for me. So it's now that shift allowed me to go, oh, I, I don't have to run to my grandma for everything. I can just look back at myself and answer this question. And then when people ask me, like, I'm a teacher, right? A classroom teacher, and students ask me questions and I'm like, "Oh, I can give an answer to that." Or my husband asks me the question. He's very awake, very open-minded, and even some ... And I ... He has probably one of the most connected
thinking. He has this remembrance so easily. I'll tell him, he's like, "Oh, I knew that."
[laughs]
And he's like, "Thank you for reminding me."
[laughs]
And so it's very, like [laughs]
I love it.
So, a- or even sometimes I, I just like, oh, do I know the answer to that question? And I may be talking to him and then trusting what the truth is, and I tell him. And he's like, "Okay." And same thing, uh, I, I may have been with a student or someone or a friend, and I just tell them, and sometimes it's just truth, right? It doesn't even h- it's not anything, anything on anybody, right?
It's
what is the truth. And that's what it is. It's being connected to what my grandma calls the universal source of the all. And when you speak that truth is, and that's allowing yourself to speak that truth. It's not me trying to say this or that about anybody or go this way or that. It's where our ancestors and our guides and our peeps, they, that's where they get all that information from. It's from the universal source, and they tell it through us. And then it took me so, not so, so, so long to understand that, but I think understanding that that's all connected, right? Those are all the dominants that connect back to us. And
maybe that makes sense. Maybe it doesn't make sense to somebody, but it makes beautiful sense to me. And that await- that understanding of this was like, oh my gosh, duh. Like, it's not just the peeps just saying random things and I'm not hearing it. It's we all hear it. Just [laughs]
it's all there.
Yeah. So I love-
[laughs]
Yeah, I love what you said, Juliana. It's not a random whatevers, right? And, uh, I'm gonna go back to that, which, and you know what I'm gonna say, the soul listening. We actually have that on the website. Soul listening, those frequencies of being, you know, and just real quick, you know, like, there's, there's four of them that I, I, yeah, identify kind of deal. So there was, like, that busy mind in one of them, judgment and paying attention. Those are human things. They'll always be in our human brain, right? And there's that soul listening that's 24/7, and that's what you're talking about, Juliana. W- exactly what you're talking about. It's not random. It's so specific for each person, right?
Yeah.
So the other ones, the busy mind, the judging, and the paying attention too much about just the one thing, that's where old conditioning thinking is. Some of it's great. Some of it keeps us safe. It's all human stuff. It's, it's great. It's wonderful. It's not bad. I want my, yeah, not me, but I want my doctors to have all the knowledge that they can from those areas of, you know, like, the flip side of judgment is discernment. Busy mind is, you know, I don't know. You know, the flip side of that is da, da, da. And paying attention is you're gonna get to where you're gonna go as far as directions. You pay attention to the directions. But the soul self is specifically, like you said, Juliana, it's not random. It is straight from the universal source of the all. It is straight from that which.
Yeah.
And that is where all the awakening comes from. And what you just shared, yeah, you just shared.
Oh, I love your story because it's like
you're like the, the one piece there that you shared that you were going, "Okay,"
you actually brought it into the consciousness of the human realm in, in your story. You said, "Oh, am I going the right way?" And then the lady started in her [laughs] so you could think about the chatter coming. [laughs] And then you went, "Oh, Kakamaka," you know, that kind. And then that little girl showed up and the lavender, uh, thing and just kinda came through and you trusted in the truth. Your brain's probably going, "Hmm," but you just went. It's, that's walking both worlds at the same time. That's like, boom, there you are. Yeah? So the
where do we start? And I 100 and million percent, uh, agree with the youAnd that is self, listening. Yeah. And having that community, right? Yeah. More often than not now, Juliana, when you, when you call, when I see the, you know, of course, you know, I send you hearts and tell you I love you, and I'll always be there, which is truth.
Um, but it's more for confirmation.
It's like, "Oh, yeah, I co- yeah, yeah." And that's really important in community is to have someone or people that not commiserate with you and, and, and have your back and like, "Ooh,"
you know? I call it, you know, chisme. You know, there's the chisme, you know, like light stuff.
Yeah.
Cafecito chisme and you kinda go, "Oh, yeah," right? Uh, then there's, like, chisme where you go, "Oh, you didn't hear it from me." Mm-hmm. Yeah, right? And then there's just the commiserating being not nice. I'm not talking about that third one, yeah? I'm talking about, you know, that community where people support you and, and care about you and, yeah. Uh, then we get lost 'cause we get busy-minded. We start judging ourselves. We pay attention too much, you know? Or Google Maps tells us to go over here, and we're like, "No, it's over here," and we really was over here, and our peeps are telling us, "No, go over here," you know? [laughs] It's just cuckoo, right? Yeah. So
we need a community to, to keep us in our own beautiful lane with the own beautiful lane of everyone else, yeah? So that those moments of wake up, wake up, wake up, it's really you already have the answers.
You're the genius of you. You're the magic of you, yeah. Any time we start looking outside ourselves for the answers,
um, that's where, you know, hmm, yeah. That being get into a little trouble with that. I call it basically, I'm gonna, you know, move from that area, is to, to bring the old into the new and the new into the old. And so people go, "What does that mean?" I say, "Bring your ancestral goodies. Bring your ceremonies and all that wonderful into the new. And then
the new into the old. Bring them so that they, they come together that are congruent with self, yeah, and, and the whole thing of being." So you don't throw everything out, yeah? No.
[laughs] No, no. Even some... I mean, I wanna keep even some habits of our ancestral being may not be useful and helpful right now, that doesn't mean they don't work. But the one habit I don't wanna let go of is brush my teeth, take a shower. Those are good habits, right? You wanna keep those in line. [laughs] But then there's all this other stuff-
Yeah
... that we do that we don't even know why we're doing them because we just do them, yeah? So and, and that's okay. Don't be, don't be tripping. That's consciousness. The more you wake up, the more you see, the more you're being woke
in both worlds, 'cause they're here anyways. Check it out.
Stress levels go down. They really do. [laughs] Everything goes down, and you start seeing things clearer. And then Juliana, guess what? We get off this whatever we're, you know, this podcast here, and you go off and do your s- thing. It's a Sunday today that we're, we're recording. And I go off somewhere, and then somebody that I have issues with, I don't have issues with nobody, but I might have issues with somebody, right? And they say something or do something and I go, "Ooh.
Ooh. Ooh. Ooh, I'm triggered. Ooh." Then I go, "Oh, my gosh, Julia, shh. Be still, sweetie."
That's all. And then we get back home again. So it's, it's not like this little...
You know what, what it on The Matrix? You take one pill or the other. I don't know. [laughs] Stay awake or not. I have no idea. It's a tongue in cheek kind of thing, but I hear it still. Oh, he took the, is it the red pill and the blue pill? I don't know. Anyways.
[laughs]
Yeah. That's, I mean, that's where I was going too with it. I was gonna say it's really stillness.
Mm-hmm.
And that's how my Gigi has always described it, stillness, right? So being still,
and in that stillness, right, you'll hear what you need to hear is what she's always described to me. And it can even happen 'cause I think it, you know, what I get caught up in is, like, the humanness, right, the physicalness, physical side of things. And
with, like, all the things that I'm going through and just kind of all the challenges that can arise, and, like, my brain goes like, "Oh, no," starts judging or paying too much attention to something. And
being in this moment where I, I have that moment of, okay, exactly what my Gigi was saying. Like, okay, I need to breathe. I need a moment. And, like, it recenters me, and then immediately I'm like, oh,
that's not, like, who I am. I just got caught up in this moment. And
it brings me right back to where I need to be and realizing that it's just, just a moment in time, and it's not just like that's where everything's gonna go. Um, and that's just helped me stay present, right? And s- and I think going back to kind of, like, the first conversation, keeping us staying awake, and it's an everyday thing. It's an everyday job or almost every minute depending on how hard it can be, right? 'Cause it's so easy to wanna shut down and, like, not be present with these things. But, you know,
we all have our own paths and the way that we're going to walk it and the way that we're going to
stay connected with it and hear to, hear ourselves. So that's what I s- would suggest, and then just, like, other things, finding things that help you feel connected. And again, that's what I was trying, I think trying to say in the beginning, uh, and talking about peopleOn my, in my age range and people that may get sucked into social media, like, that's so much noise, right? It- that's not gonna give you that stillness that you need. So it's like, what I'm trying to say is, like, okay, you need to just take a step from, step back from that social media, give yourself maybe a detox, and then find those things that were for you as well. A l- a l- a lot of the things, uh, my grandma always tell me, like, putting the oxygen mask on for yourself before you put it on for other people. And in those moments where you are doing those things for you, which may be like what I, you know, doing those small moments of, like, going for a walk or being with other people, you'll feel that stillness. Like,
that's what I'm trying to get across is that that stillness, you'll feel it, you'll see it, you'll get everything that you may be looking for. And
being aware of that is just,
that's the piece that I think is kind of that starting point for people.
Oh, that's beautiful. Well, Juliana, I think that's where we're gonna leave this one, right there, everything you just said. Oh my goodness, yeah. Well, yeah, this is good. We're g- we're gonna be doing more of these and, uh, yeah. And maybe if people out there, the listeners out there have any questions they'd like to ask us, they can send them to us at the www.theschoolwithoutwalls.net and just say, "Hey, I got a question for you." And they could all be for Juliana, then I'm good, you know? [laughs]
But we, we... Thank you everyone. Thank you Juliana for, for joining us and, and again, I said we're gonna have more conversations
with, uh, Juliana and Julia, or Gigi and Juliana, or Juliana and Julia. I don't know however else you wanna say it. [laughs] But thank you for joining us and, uh, we'll talk to you soon. Adios.
Correct. Thank you