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(upbeat music)
Sweet 16.
Sweet 16.
Story of our lives, if only.
Yeah, I was really
stretching there for that biff
and back to the
future reference, wasn't I?
Fell out of the chair.
I am only drinking the
fruits of the spirit.
Dreamstone and hellfire.
We bucked that tradition.
That tradition.
Does that not go through your mind?
What are you doing a
problem without dancing?
It took a hot moment
for me to figure it out.
This is awkward, I'm
gonna go ahead and take off.
Your grandparents can
dance like there's no tomorrow,
but Jesus is like, "You're on vacation."
And there is a time to dance.
I would smell myself
until I got used to the smell.
Smell yourself until you got what?
Say that again.
Yeah, that one was weird, but I would,
you could call it someone had for lunch.
And it's eight hours after lunch.
I can't imagine, it's like a cyber drink,
it makes me wanna go, "Ugh!"
That is now one of our things.
Maybe we are a little vain.
We do think that song's about us.
It was a fabulous date night.
Yeah, like, whoa, whoa.
Daughter, girlfriend?
Question mark?
Question mark?
It's like a seven layer
bean guacamole dip of stress.
And we thought seven was the max.
We thought.
We were being totally
judgmental here, but this is fun.
Appetizers, that's French
for food before you're on her.
Ooh, wow.
Police sting soliciting a prostitute,
but he bought her.
He bought her for the night.
It was hard just to get around her.
It's like, who?
Nobody would have
believed that I actually knew
where the bathroom was.
Young and in love, and
now we're old and in love.
We've been there, we've done that.
Or.
Or.
Or.
If you looked straight ahead, even if you
stared into my eyes,
you're proof you're hooked.
And I need you to know,
gross, nasty, old guy.
I think I'm sad for this.
Or am I not kidding, I don't know.
I don't know.
If we're all being
honest, that's how everybody is.
I mean, give me a break.
I do think that most
people would have been doing
exactly what you and I were doing.
And that's why people
like, people watch it.
We are nothing if not, honestly.
Are we though?
What's the word I'm looking for there?
A anal?
Well, it gives you what you can handle.
Right.
I feel like I'm there.
I'm not a good juggler,
I have the metaphorical
juggling of adulthood.
Hey, hey, hey.
That's pretty close.
It's pretty dark close.
Swimming upstream, or you
know, like, I don't know.
Where do I buy a 25 year old?
You've gotten way wrong.
(laughing) I got one word.
(upbeat music)
That's a very long pause.
(laughing)
Yeah, that won't be a highlight.
I probably should take that one out.
Welcome to the Mr. and
Mrs. English podcast.
I'm Megan.
And I'm Shum.
We're here to talk about
the wild ride of raising kids,
growing careers, keeping life together
in the middle of all the chaos.
So buckle up,
because we're all in
this crazy journey together.
This will be episode 16.
Welcome everyone, welcome hun.
Welcome.
Sweet 16.
Sweet 16.
That's right.
That would have been,
it's a little after the fact
of when that would have
been good for Mars madness.
Right.
Oh man, if only we had started, you know,
a couple weeks earlier.
Four weeks earlier maybe?
Story of our lives, if only.
Yeah.
Right?
Right.
Oh well.
You know, honestly, I
wasn't thinking about that
when we first started this.
About, oh, we could
line up our 16th episode
with the Sweet 16.
I would have been killer.
Gosh, I, although if I
can look that far ahead,
maybe I should,
I have a water roll. Yeah.
(laughing)
I could be like Biff
and Back to the Future
and like, you know, like,
cause I would have been
able to see the future and.
That's right, that's right.
All for the 16th
lining up with the Sweet 16.
Yeah.
Missed it by a month or so.
Yeah.
I was really
stretching there for that Biff
and Back to the
Future reference, wasn't I?
Well, I saw where you're going with it.
It's good.
Everybody appreciates
a little nostalgia, so.
Speaking of nostalgia, we
went with a little bit of
sippers again on this show.
We did, we did.
Cause it's a weekend.
We're actually recording
on a weekend this time.
Yeah.
Well, I drank so much last time
that I didn't even finish the show.
So I think that's why
our viewership was up
like a thousand fold.
We fell out of the chair.
Cause I was imbibing too much.
(sighs)
No, not quite.
Although.
I'm just kidding.
I didn't even finish my,
I didn't even finish it.
No, your apple juice.
My apple juice, that's right.
Or my oddly colored.
Your oddly colored Chardonnay.
Is that what we thought it might be?
You're always drinking cabs, so.
Yep, that's usually my go-to.
Actually, technically this is a, um,
a Malbec.
Oh, that one is really?
Okay.
I happen to have grabbed a Malbec.
Okay.
Last time I opened a bottle.
That's good.
And we're actually shooting on a weekend.
Which hasn't happened in a while,
just because our weekends have been wild.
Yes.
Wild weekends.
Wild weekends.
This one was a little more tame.
Yep, no soccer games.
No soccer, but it is a holiday weekend.
And it's a holiday weekend.
So, I mean, that does help bring down
some of the agenda items.
We already been to church.
Yes.
Cause this is Easter weekend.
So, just got back from church?
Yeah.
I don't know how that's gonna go over.
You know, like, hey, we
just got back from church
and now we're drinking.
At least we didn't do
it before church, but.
Yeah, well, I mean, again.
Jesus drank wine.
Jesus drank wine, that's right.
He turned water into wine.
Into wine.
So, I mean, I am only
drinking the fruits of the spirit.
But I did grow up, that's right.
The fruits of the spirit.
I thought that was a
really good play on words.
That was, that's why I went back to it.
I don't want to miss when
you have those good ones.
They're so rare.
I'm not that witty.
No, you are.
Yours are good ones when they come along.
But I was gonna say when I grew up,
because my grandfather
was a Baptist preacher.
If anybody knows anything about Baptists
and you know, there's different
denominations, whatnot.
And the Baptists down here were very,
were known for just
being very strict, right?
The Southern Baptists,
Southern Baptists was very strict.
Right.
That was Hellstone and
Brimstone and Hellfire,
you know, preaching
behind the pulpit every Sunday.
And that's not what my grandfather was.
He wasn't, we were, he was a Baptist.
But I bring it all up
because they didn't believe
in drinking though.
Right.
Right, so I grew up, in fact, there was,
I remember some family
weddings that they didn't have,
they did not have alcohol at
because of my grandparents.
And you're just out of respect for that.
And you know, I guess us
being us, we broke that.
We bucked that tradition.
That tradition.
And we did some on your
side too that, you know,
your parents were, we tried to be,
because you grew up Catholic.
I grew up, I guess my
grandfather was Baptist,
but we went to a Presbyterian church,
which I don't know what
was different about that one
or whatnot.
Now we're non-denominational.
Right.
But definitely, we buck some trends.
And I think we kind of
tore off the band-aid
for some other people,
because following us,
there was some things that went down,
from those kinds of
things that other siblings
benefited from, I think.
Yeah, yeah.
It was, yeah, again, growing up Catholic,
wine isn't, drinking is
totally okay in Catholicism.
So there was no ban on that in our house.
Yeah, yeah.
So let me ask you the
one question about that.
And I always think
about it when we go there,
and I'm a germaphobe, I
think it's been established
on this show.
But the few times I've
been to the Catholic church
with you and your family, whenever,
and they take,
everybody, you know, takes,
partakes of the cup.
Yeah, the communion cup.
The communion cup.
And everybody in the church
drinks out of the same cup.
Now I know he's got a little thing
that he kind of wipes it off.
They wipe it after everyone, but--
Your lips in it, I mean, people,
I mean, it's not like,
it's not like there's not
germs being deposited in that.
And when there's a few hundred people
drinking out of the cup,
I mean, does that not
go through your mind?
So I--
Is that why you're not Catholic anymore?
And I did not, I never,
aside from my first communion,
where I think you have
to drink it as part of it,
I didn't, I never drank the wine, so--
Oh, you have a choice not to.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's okay.
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, I didn't know that.
I always skipped it.
Because I always did kind of
think it was kind of gross.
So you're not looked
down upon for doing that?
Oh, okay.
No. No.
That's good.
So yeah, I never drank
it, but I don't know,
it's probably changed since COVID.
Please tell me it's changed since COVID.
Like, now that we know
how germs are spread,
you know what? Are you sure?
I mean, that was like
two or three years ago.
You tend to forget.
But yes, I haven't been to a
Catholic Church since then,
but I-- Yeah.
There's hope that we have changed
some of those sanitary things.
The Catholic Church has come a long way
in the last couple decades.
It has.
Changing and whatnot, so,
but we'll turn the page on that one.
But I was just laughing,
because when you talk about drinking,
I mean, like, that was a
bit of a no-no in my family.
I mean, my grandparents didn't drink.
Not that they judged anybody,
because we did, I mean,
like, I think growing up,
we talked about this
once or twice before.
There was some like, core
slide or something like that
in ours and you guys drank, but.
I do remember though, my
grandparents hearing stories
of them, you know, because
they had a Christian school.
Yeah, yeah, they did.
Yeah, so, you know, it
was K through 12th grade,
little Christian school.
And like, I went to their prom one year,
and there was no, they
couldn't dance at the prom.
What do you do in a prom without dancing?
I don't know, I ended up leaving early
because of a whole nother story.
I've never heard this story,
and I would love to
actually unpack this at some point,
because I've never heard this story.
Well, there was a
girl that you knew that,
her and I kind of always had like,
a little crush on each
other at that church,
for a long time, but she
was always dating another guy.
And it was another guy
that also played basketball,
you know, their 1A, I think 5A or
something like that.
So there's, for whatever reason,
there was like a competition there,
but she was dating him,
but her and I kind of had
crushes on each other from afar,
because we had kind of
stopped going to that church.
But when I went
there, it was always like,
oh, we're making eye contact.
So they had broken up
at one point in time,
junior year, maybe, senior
year, I don't remember what year,
but I ended up going to prom with her.
I picked her up to her there.
And I remember he was there,
and he and I knew each other,
because we would play
basketball against each other
on like Sunday nights.
We'd have like pickup
games after church there.
So I would always, I
would go to church there
on Sunday nights,
because they had Sunday morning church
and Sunday evening church.
Got it.
And then did your whole
family go on like that Sunday,
on that Saturday night
thing, or Sunday night thing?
No, no, this was, oh,
maybe that was later.
I'm getting confused,
because it was later.
Maybe it wasn't in high
school, because I could drive.
I would go there, my family didn't go,
but I think we had
stopped going to church,
that church at that point in time.
We were going to the Presbyterian church.
But because there was a
pickup basketball game,
because there was a full gymnasium there,
because there was a school.
So there would be 12 to 15
guys that would stay after,
and we'd play basketball, right?
And he was one of the
people that would stay.
And he was good, don't get me wrong.
He was good, you know
the guy I'm talking about.
And he and I eventually
came friends along the way.
He's a good guy.
He ended up marrying
this girl, obviously.
Really?
Yeah, you know who I'm
talking about, don't you?
No, I do, yeah.
I think you do.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it took a moment.
It took a hot moment
for me to figure it out.
We went to prom, and I could just tell,
the dynamics there
was like, you know what?
You guys are meant to
be like, this is awkward.
I'm gonna go ahead and take off.
And I left halfway through prom,
because it was like, it's all good.
I know she's probably,
I don't need to be stuck
in the middle of a love triangle.
I really don't want to be at the point
of this love triangle.
At a prom, in a
gymnasium, where you can't dance.
At your grandfather's
church, and you can't dance.
At my grandfather's church, yes.
That is a very strange. So awkward, yeah.
There's a whole lot of awkwardness.
There was somewhere I
went that night too,
and I don't remember where it was.
I don't know if I went to play basketball
somewhere else or something.
I mean, like, that was heavy, you know,
basketball era, Sean.
Yeah.
Anyways, yeah, that was all off of,
so they couldn't
drink, they couldn't dance.
But I remember there were, as my
grandparents got older,
they went on cruises,
and everybody was like,
"Oh my gosh, your grandparents can dance.
There's no tomorrow.
They can do all the dancing.
They go on these
cruises, and Jesus is like,
"You're on vacation.
You know what everyone do.
They're dancing away.
They're like, "Oh,
they're such great dancers."
And they're drinking
these little fruity drinks,
whatever they may have been.
Pina Colada.
Pina Colada, but somehow
they kind of excused it away.
Like, "Oh, oh, there's nothing in that.
There's no alcohol in that.
Sure, sure, Grandma.
Sure, Papa."
Well, and according to
Kevin Bacon in Footloose,
the Bible does say, "And
there is a time to dance."
So, you know.
Apparently those rules
applied on the cruise.
Yeah, so sorry, that
was a big tangent there
on our drinking, so we're drinking again.
Not drinking, we're
just having little sippers.
We're just having a couple sips?
Yeah, I don't mean to
make a big plot out of it.
Right.
Hey, it's a weekend.
Weekend after a week of soccer.
Yes.
That we took, I mean,
this was a big tournament.
Huge.
And we talked about that last week,
but because of that, they actually had
games during school.
So they got excused for school.
So we had, we were in and out of school.
Yeah, and then in and out of work, too.
And I don't know how
other parents did it,
because, I mean, we had to take, now,
my boss was like, "You
don't have to take PTO
"if you're just going to a soccer game."
And it's like, "Well, no, no, no,
"it's not just a soccer game,
"'cause you have to be there early.
"You have to drive 45 minutes.
"You have to, you know, so like, really,
"this is almost a four-hour thing."
And I was like, so I just
took some PTO in the afternoon,
and it was just, part of it was because
I didn't want to be
bothered either by work.
I was like, "No, if I'm on PTO, I do--
I'm going to ignore my phone.
I'm going to ignore my phone,
and I would encourage my team, everyone,
to ignore their phone
if they're truly on PTO.
So, I did it for my
own peace of mind, but.
Yeah.
I don't know how, I
mean, there were just so many
barbecues, and they were
taking a team to Six Flags,
and it was just like,
oh, a whole big thing.
Yeah, one of our
teams was over and beyond,
because they were hosting.
There was a handful of
families hosted by 10 kids,
maybe 12 kids total, but
they each had like two.
And it was a whole process of like,
you're taking care of
them, sun up to sundown.
Yeah.
And after sundown.
Actually, yeah, because
they stay in your house.
24 hours, I mean, yeah.
Yeah, yeah. So, they were doing Six Flags some days.
They're taking them to,
again, Walmart came up again,
and it's like, wow, it's incredible.
Yeah, I was talking
to somebody on Friday,
we scrimmaged the team on Friday,
and one of the host
parents, they're like,
"Well, what do you want?"
They went to Walmart
again, and the kids were like,
"There's so much variety."
Like, there's a wall of deodorant,
they're just blowing their mind.
It's like, yes, you get to pick
what you get to smell like here.
Yeah, yeah, interesting.
Do you want coconuts?
Do you want lavender?
Do you want shea butter?
I don't know, but you get the option.
Yeah, and then, yeah, I
was trying to think of like,
all the funny, like,
you know, brute ones that,
you know, acts, you know,
they have all the funny manly sounds.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
I've used the same deodorant
since I was in ninth grade.
Me too.
Really?
Mm-hmm.
That's crazy.
I mean, can you imagine what would happen
if they stopped making that deodorant?
I would smell myself
until I got used to the smell.
Like, if I had to change deodorants.
Smell yourself until you got, what?
Say that again.
Yeah, that one was weird, but I would--
I just didn't understand it.
And now that I'm
replaying it, it was weird.
It was really weird.
It was almost as bad as
the earlier strange phrase
that we had, but no, so if
I were to change deodorants,
I'd be able to smell
my own deodorant on me.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
You'd be smelling the new scent.
I'd be smelling the
new scent, yeah, not--
Because you don't
smell your deodorant now
because you're so used to it.
I'm so used to it.
Yeah.
Yeah, and that happens with anything.
Shampoo, just that wicked
nose that smells anything.
But shampoo, soap, deodorant, toothpaste,
anything like that, if I change it,
I can smell it on me for weeks.
You had a good story this week of a
person that was like,
I think her husband was like,
"Oh, she smells everything too."
And again, we're not
trying to be one uppers here,
not at all.
This is, Megan smells everything.
Everything. Everything.
It is a curse.
So you may think you have a strong,
and we're not trying to
be the best at everything.
That's not it.
It's actually the worst.
I challenge somebody, if
they think their spouse
or they themselves has a strong nose,
to challenge you on it.
Because someone said their
spouse had a strong nose,
and then this week,
you had this encounter.
I had this encounter.
She was sitting about the
distance that we're sitting,
and she had put sunscreen on.
It wasn't a spray, it was just a--
For those of listening,
we're about three feet apart.
Yeah, about, yeah, there you go.
It was just like a cream sunscreen,
and she sat down three feet away from me,
and I was like, "Oh, that's Neutrogena
sunscreen, isn't it?"
She's like, "How did you know?"
I was like, "It smells
like Neutrogena sunscreen."
I could not get the
smell of Neutrogena sunscreen
out of my nose.
I came home, and what did I smell?
I was like, I needed to smell something,
almost like coffee or something,
to clear the scent out of my
nose almost three hours later.
She wasn't spraying it
on herself right there.
She couldn't read the bottle.
No, no, no, no, no.
She actually went away in
order to apply the sunscreen.
So she came back, and you
could just smell it on her.
I could just smell it on her,
and I smelled it on her the whole game.
Well, that changed it a little bit,
because, yeah, that's a strong one,
but what's the one I use for our spray?
Oh, the Hawaiian Tropic.
I mean, if it was Hawaiian Tropic,
everybody would know what that was.
Everybody would know that,
and I would know like coffee too.
Because Neutrogena is
a little bit out there,
but those have a strong smell to them.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So I guess my point
was that wasn't the best,
now that I hear the story again,
it wasn't the best example of it.
Oh, aw, sorry.
But she was like, "I can't
believe you can smell that."
Smell that, yeah.
And you were like, "Oh,
yeah, I smell everything."
I smell everything.
And you were like, "Oh, I don't know what you guys "have for lunch."
Yeah, it's true.
It's never a good thing.
And you can tell what
someone had for lunch.
And it's eight hours after lunch.
Totally imagine, like
that smell is creeping up
through your esophagus
from your digestive system
in your stomach, and
that's what you're smelling.
I don't know.
Part of it is like certain things,
garlic or whatever, it
does come through your pores.
It's like a Cybertruck, it
makes me wanna go, "Hoo!"
I know.
Yes, that is now a thing.
That is now one of our things.
We see a Cybertruck and
we all pretend to throw up.
Ugliest car ever.
We may have already
talked about it, but we do.
I don't know if we did.
Every time I see one now, I try to be as,
what is it, not
bombastically, what is it?
Theatrically, like, pretend to throw up.
Well, I'm trying to make eye
contact with the driver of it
so they can see me, like,
your car is literally
making me wanna throw up.
And I don't do stuff like that, ever.
But that truck is so bad.
And now it's, if you listen to people
that talk about that truck, it's like,
they're like, "Thank
you for buying that truck,
"because now I know
where all the jerks are."
(laughing)
Now I know where all
certain kind of people are.
I know.
They're in the Cybertruck,
so it's like raising a flag.
Yeah, yeah.
Whether that's true or not, I don't know,
but it is the ugliest vehicle.
The ugliest car.
It's worse than,
because we had a top,
like, two or three, for sure.
Oh, yeah.
PT Cruiser.
PT Cruiser, mm-hmm.
What was the car that
was in Breaking Bad?
He had, like, one of the second ones.
It's like an Azteca
or something like that.
Oh, I don't remember
what the car name was,
but yeah, it was pretty bad.
You remember the car
in Breaking Bad, though?
Yeah, that was probably
one of the worst cars.
Is there another one on
that list that's just so bad?
There's a Sky on it, isn't there?
What's the one that's like a box?
Oh, Cube, it's like a cube.
Yeah, it looks like a cube.
I don't know the name of
it, but that's pretty bad.
Yeah, but I drive that any
day before I drive a Tesla,
or the Tesla Cybertruck, or a PT Cruiser,
because there's two versions.
There's like the Chrysler PT Cruiser,
and then there's like a Wannabe.
Yeah, we remember when we rented a car,
and all they had left
was that what we called
the PT Wannabe, it wasn't
truly like the brand name
PT Cruiser, it just
looked like a PT Cruiser.
Yeah.
And we were leaving, I think, a church,
and there were some people
near us, we didn't know them,
and we're like, let's just keep walking.
We don't want people to
know that this one's our car.
Did we get the car?
We ended up taking it?
Yeah, yeah, we had to.
There wasn't anything
else, like we couldn't rent
any other car, that was
the only car they had left
on the rent a lot.
Yeah, I vaguely remember that.
Yeah, we were leaving a
Christmas church service,
and we're like, just keep walking.
We walked by the car so
people didn't see us get in it.
Yes, yes.
Yeah, maybe we are a little vain.
We are pretty vain.
We do think that song's about us.
Yeah, yeah.
Yes, the song is about us.
Yep.
Well, we took a little time.
So the kids played great,
just to sum up the whole thing.
Kids played great, nobody
got out of the first round,
unfortunately.
In fact, the team that our oldest played,
they made it to the finals.
And our oldest son, and
this is nothing against him,
it just happens, soccer is hard to score.
When you get those opportunities,
you gotta try to make them,
if you can't, that's okay.
Professionals miss those same ones,
but he had two,
that he wishes he had back.
And we would have beat the team.
We tied them.
We ended up tying, yeah.
But they ended up winning
our bracket based on points.
our bracket based on points.
And they made it to the finals.
We were on TV, watched them last night.
They ended up losing,
we got second place.
But I mean, pretty cool to
get second place in this,
which is a fairly prestigious tournament.
So, and then, you know, my youngest sons,
they lost them points too.
Anyways, so to celebrate,
we were done with that week
and just the three weeks that we've had,
which has been tough.
Everybody's heard,
we've just had so many,
domino after domino, we decided to have
a date night last night.
Yes, yes.
And it was a fabulous date night.
You know, we had to do some Easter prep,
but then we're like, kind of
our thing is just a really,
a nice dinner.
Usually steakhouse and just sit there,
chat, but we were--
Well, our date nights
always come when like,
we don't make it out shopping very often.
Usually we'll Amazon
something to the house,
Prime it, whatever it is.
We'll do that.
But we don't ever make
it out to like a Target
or to an actual shopping area.
So generally speaking,
we'll have two or three
or four or five months saved up of like,
gosh, we have to
actually physically go somewhere
and get something.
Yes.
Right, and last night was
kind of one of those nights
we had to hit Target up
and then we had to hit
another store up.
But generally we'll do
that every date night.
We'll shop for the first
like two or three hours.
Yeah.
And then we'll hit up,
well, Mikosina is usually
where we go, we'll
get like some guacamole.
You always get like a
little appetizer, yeah.
Mikosina have a, you know,
Chips and dip.
Chips and, exactly, chips and dip and--
Nice drinks.
Yeah, cause then we'll go shopping.
Sitting on the patio, it's the best.
It's just a, it's
relaxed for just a moment.
Yep, yep.
Down in South Lake Town Square,
cause it's just, you
know, people watching
and it's usually nice weather.
Yeah, like even on the
patios, because, you know,
in Texas, like they do
try to cool the patios
in the middle of the
summer and they heat the patios
in the middle of the winter.
So it's usually just a
really, really nice experience.
And then it's like, that's
kind of the decompression part
and then we go shopping a little bit
and then we usually finish
off with a really nice meal.
Yeah.
Like at a, usually steakhouse.
Yeah.
We tried the new steakhouse last night
that we just built.
We've been to it before, but.
Yeah.
Capital Grill.
Yeah.
It's a national chain
that's, last time we were,
I think Denver, maybe was
the last time we ate there?
I had never been to one.
I know you had.
Oh, you've never been to one?
So I had been to one,
but I didn't eat there.
When--
I went to that restaurant, I didn't eat.
So, you know, I was early 20s.
I always went out, on Friday afternoons,
I went out for lunch with my friend
when I was working downtown Minneapolis.
Every Friday, we had lunch together.
And we're like, "Hey,
let's try the Capital Grill."
There's Capital Grill
downtown Minneapolis.
And we walked in and we saw the menu
and no joke at the time, it was like,
duck eggs were one of the appetizers.
And, you know, as a 22, 23 year old,
we're both like, "I
don't know that I would want,
I don't even know what that is
or what you do to eat with it."
But anyway, and then we saw the pricing.
And it was a little
rich for a 22, 23 year old.
Yeah.
So, anyway, I walked in, walked out.
That was the only time I had
ever been to a Capital Grill.
So you guys literally went
into it and then walked out?
Yeah, we actually had
been seated in everything.
You had been seated?
Uh-huh.
That's a whole, that is
a whole different level
of giving up on this.
I was like, well--
White flag.
First of all, I don't
know that I liked anything
on the menu for like a
Friday afternoon lunches.
Duck eggs.
For duck eggs.
And I was like, it's kind of expensive.
Like, I didn't really want
to spend $100 on a lunch.
They didn't have duck
eggs last night though.
They did not have duck eggs.
It's no longer on the menu.
It was not, I did look.
That's hilarious.
I know, isn't that weird?
Anyway, so we went last night.
They just built this one.
This is brand new,
Something did happen that is,
We have two kind of go-to steakhouses.
the reason we're bringing this up.
This one is brand new built.
It was just, well, I'll let you do it.
You can tell them what you saw first
because you were watching me.
And I don't know, it was fine.
Okay, yeah, so I'm watching your face
I've done a lot of business dinners at
these kind of things.
and you make the craziest face.
And I was like, what in
the world is going on?
I'm facing a wall and
you're facing kind of out.
I think there's an eyebrow followed by,
one eyebrow going up by big eyes.
Yeah. Like, whoa, whoa.
That was what I heard.
Yeah.
I'm like, what?
What's going on?
And I hear this
daughter, girlfriend, what?
Question mark.
Oh boy.
Well, it was not his daughter.
You quickly found out.
But this like overtook,
we were having some big discussions
because of all these
things that have just been,
we just had so much,
we're in that era where it's,
we were just talking about today,
it's like stress,
where we maxed out stress two weeks ago.
And it's like, oh,
apparently we didn't max out stress.
We're just gonna put more on and more.
It's just like a layer cake of,
it's like a seven layer,
bean guacamole dip of stress
that is now up to like a 21 layer.
And we thought seven was the max.
We thought, yeah.
So we were trying to
make it through some of this
at dinnertime.
Just talk through it and whatever.
And now we are distracted.
So this guy walks in.
Yeah, your back was to them.
I was facing them.
Cause you and I are in a booth,
but we're sitting on opposite sides.
Well, he walks in.
He, this guy who I
originally thought he was maybe 55.
And he walks in with,
again, like Megan said,
daughter at first,
but then they both sit on
the same side of the booth,
which is directly behind you.
They're sitting, you're
sitting back to back with them.
And I can see the back of their heads.
And then I'm like, maybe not daughter.
Cause I don't think
I'd sit on the same side
as the booth as my daughter.
In fact, I'm not even
sitting on the same side
of the booth as my wife.
Right.
You know?
Right.
So 55 and daughter is
25 maybe is my thought.
Probably the oldest.
I did get a good look at some point.
Yeah.
25 might be pushing it.
So we're listening, but
fast forward to the point
and tell them, like,
we're like, in my mind,
I'm like, there's at
least 30 years between them.
And we're being totally judgmental here,
but this is fun.
It was the conversation.
Like you would ask me a question.
I'm like, hold on, I'm listening.
Oh yeah.
We lost out on our conversation
cause we were listening to theirs.
One of the questions he asked her.
So how many states have you been to?
So people, how many times,
husbands and wives out there.
How many, how often do you say,
how many states have you been to?
I mean, it was creepily just so first day
like generic and she was,
after I heard her
speak a couple of times,
there's no way she was older than 25.
No.
She was probably younger.
Well, they kept talking
about school and classes.
So.
Well, I've been, New Mexico.
Nevada.
Nevada.
I mean, you know when she
starts trailing off the,
you know, vowels.
Yeah, mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
He was explaining the menu to her.
Which I do to you all the time.
So I don't know.
I mean, these are the entrees.
Entrees are your main dish.
I was like, oh gosh, like.
Appetizers.
That's French for
food before your entree.
Yeah, mm-hmm.
Teaching her about
the different, you know,
cooks of steak.
I mean, it was like,
and then they kept talking about school.
At some point she did
reference an ex, her ex boyfriend.
Ex boyfriend.
I mean, the
conversations coming out of this,
and we were just getting like bits.
Like, and it was just,
ooh, wow.
So let me just.
Oh, but at one point,
oh, sorry, go ahead.
No, you go ahead.
You go ahead.
At one point though,
there was like a full on
make out session, right?
Oh yeah, we're gonna get there.
But let me just lay the
groundwork here a little bit more
because we, hopefully you
guys listen through the end
because usually first 15 minutes,
we're just getting the soap, right?
But by the time we get to the
25th, 30th minute into this,
like we're gonna lather it up.
You know what I mean?
Like we're getting
into the good stuff here.
But to lay the groundwork for this,
this restaurant is walking distance
within one minute from a hotel
that's down in South Lake Town Square
that we are acquainted with only because,
well, I mean, actually our daughter
the fact that our youngest son,
was gonna be spending the night there.
who had a coach who we
loved and was great with him
because he was able to work our youngest
through some emotional issues.
But he wasn't able to finish his tenure
as the head coach of
our youngest soccer team
because he was caught in a police sting
soliciting a prostitute at this hotel.
Yeah.
So there's a very charged,
if you will, area here, right?
Like we're within
walking distance of this.
We see this guy walking and it's like,
oh, that's not a daughter.
That's, Meg's is like, oh, he bought her.
He bought her for the night.
So we're like, oh,
they're going back to that hotel
because that hotel's known.
I mean, this was in our mind.
Well, I mean, that was on the news.
It was on the internet.
It was a big thing.
There was like 40 guys
caught in a sting, 40 men.
I wouldn't call them gentlemen, maybe.
The 40 grown men caught in
that sting for soliciting.
Yes, yes, at this particular hotel.
Right in the smack dab
of South Lake Town Square.
Yeah.
Anyway, so that's laying a
little bit of the groundwork
of where we're coming from on this.
That's the backdrop.
That's the backdrop on it, right?
So we're trying to have a conversation
and then halfway through
Megan saying something,
you know, like, Sean,
don't jump off the bridge.
And I'm like, oh, for
those of you not watching,
I would start mimicking
kind of what's happening
to let her know, because we can't talk
because they're
literally right behind us.
Right, right.
So I'm like, his arm
just went around her.
He just put his arm around her.
They're so close on this six foot bench.
He just scooted over.
Your plates, you know, oval
plates would have to be turned
sideways to touching
because they were sitting almost
hip to hip at this point, probably.
And then they start making out.
Like who?
Right in the middle of Capitol Hill,
this guy's, after you saw him, you
thought he was 60, easy.
I did, yeah, yeah, yeah.
He had had some work done, I think.
But yeah, no, he was not.
Well, and he even
referenced at some point in time,
his son who was in a college fraternity.
So like, he was old enough
to have a 20 year old son.
Yeah, yeah.
So I mean, I guess you could be 40
and have a 20 year old son,
but I don't think that's the case.
Let's caveat here,
we're not being judgmental.
We're just passing along
entertainment for our--
This is just entertainment.
It was entertaining for us.
Like, I mean, it was a
very unique date night.
We usually don't find these characters
like on a regular date night.
I mean, I'm sure if we
were looking for them,
but it was just right in our face.
You know what I mean?
I mean, there's a lot
of money in that area
and who knows what's
happening in that area.
But it was just, it overtook
our date night a little bit
because it was
constantly like, what'd they say?
Yeah.
She said, did she just say that?
Yeah, it was.
Try not to hear it, you know.
And then you made up
the whole thing to be,
I'm like, pretend to go to the bathroom.
Because we knew the
bathroom was behind us to the left.
I was like, no, no, no,
pretend to go to the bathroom
that way, like you went the wrong way.
So I did.
And so then I could like assess the
situation a little bit.
And I, yeah, I pinned her
about the same age that you did.
And then, yeah, he--
But let's not skip
over your acting skills.
Oh, I actually went
all the way to the front
to like ask the hostess,
like, where's the bathroom?
Even though I knew where it was.
By the way, it was way off stage.
I mean, I can't see
her, they can't see you.
So you mean like your
dedication to your method acting
was impressive.
It was impressive.
I'm gonna call Steven
Spielberg on this one
just to see if like, yeah.
Method actor.
Nobody would have
believed that I actually knew
where the bathroom was.
No one would have.
Because yeah, you come back
around the corner with a--
With the hostess.
The hostess, is that who it was?
Yeah.
And perfectly, like we had planned it
right in front of their table.
She's like, it is just
around that corner to your right.
Yeah, because it gave me
like a pause right there.
So I could, you know,
get another couple seconds
of assessment in there.
Yeah, yeah.
It was interesting.
So you thought maybe just over 60
with a little bit of work
and she was probably under 25.
Yeah, that was my assessment, yeah.
You know, everybody, at least I hope,
there is always a time
for those make out sessions
when, you know, like,
this just isn't the type
of place for that, I mean.
Well, we brought that up.
I even said that I was like,
there was a time in our lives,
when we were together,
where it was like, you know,
young and in love, and
now we're old and in love.
Young and in love and
you're like, you know,
PDA and making out, you know, at the bar.
We've been there, we've done that.
Yes.
But that was a few years ago.
It was.
And it was at spots where we probably
weren't the only ones,
you know, that, because
it was probably filled
with people our own age and, you know.
Yeah, we were mid 20s, late 20s.
Yeah, and like, that's a
super fun phase of life.
Embrace it.
Right.
You know, but.
Or.
Or.
Or, to quote you from last week,
maybe I missed an opportunity.
Maybe I should have slipped
over to your side of the booth.
Maybe, and we could have
had a make out session.
Just, kind of, you know, just that
little, oh, stretch.
Oh, my arms around
you now, how about that?
Sorry.
Yeah, I pressed my hair.
Oh yeah, he cupped her
head, like all the way down.
I mean, it was, it
was just, it was creepy.
It was creepy.
And I'm trying not to be judgy about it.
And it's hard not to feel
like a voyeur when you're like,
but you could not
have not looked at them.
If you looked straight ahead,
even if you stared into my eyes,
your peripheral vision
still would have seen them.
Well, it's just
because I saw them walk in
and the question popped in immediately.
And so then I was intrigued.
It was like, they hooked me.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
I was hooked.
You were hooked.
And I needed to know.
Inquiring minds wanted to know.
But it was interesting,
because you and I
started talking about it.
It was like, people
know, men say it all the time
on TV or whatever
that, you hear the joke,
whatever that's like,
I keep getting older,
but the women I'm
attracted to stay the same age.
The old creepy man saying,
but there's probably truth in that.
Men still stay attracted
to women of a certain look.
And that's usually a younger woman.
So it was funny.
And then I asked you, I was like,
well, how's that?
Do women feel that same way too?
Like, are you still attracted to that
young 22 year old guy?
In mine, mine was like, not really.
I mean, yes and no.
I mean, if he looks good on
a movie screen or whatever,
but like in an actual situation,
like no, I don't think
many women of my age anyway,
would like feel
comfortable in that situation.
Yeah, maybe he did buy her.
Cause it's like, you
know, just, you know.
would just be so weird.
Like I would just feel if it were me.
I don't know.
Like I would just feel if it were me.
I don't know.
Like I would just feel if it were me.
Anyways, we spent
like 20 minutes on that.
let's just play this out
We went way into that.
let's just play this out
So interesting.
in an alternate universe.
I mean, it was great.
Because you're my one
It was, I guess it wasn't crazy.
It happens all the time.
You're my one and only.
It happens all the time.
It made our date night interesting.
Cause we've never had that experience.
We've never had that.
It was just in our face.
Their mother is everything, right?
It was, yes.
And it definitely made
it a unique date night.
I could not do that.
So.
I mean, this guy's 12
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
years older than me now.
Otherwise it was super fun.
I mean, it was really good
to just laugh and be like,
Even now, a 25 year
old, let's say I'm dating,
because it did lighten
the mood on, you know,
I would feel like the old guy,
it's been really a heavy
few weeks and all of that.
I mean, cause we could
just be like, oh my gosh.
get that out of my mind.
Can you believe this?
Right, and like, yeah.
So it lightened the mood a little bit.
It always feels good to
make fun of somebody else.
And especially since the
guy was talking about a son
who was probably about the same age
Sadly.
who was probably about the same age
Or am I not kidding?
I don't know.
as this girl that he was making out with.
I don't know.
as this girl that he was making out with.
If we're all being
honest, that's how everybody is.
I mean, give me a break.
I do think that most people
would have been doing exactly
what you and I were doing and being like,
oh my gosh, you're never
going to believe what I'm seeing.
Anybody listening to
this podcast has to agree.
If you're being honest with yourself,
if you go sit in any
mall, any public place,
you could sit there
and just have a heyday
of just enjoying people watching.
That's why people like people watching.
Yeah.
That's a lot of people's.
Yeah, that's okay.
We like people watching, so it's okay.
Yeah, it's awesome.
Yeah, anyways.
Takes all kinds to
make the world go round.
It does, it does.
But anyway, what do we
have coming up this week?
What do we have coming up this week?
Well, Easter's tomorrow.
Easter, so yeah, we'll
have a little egg hunt.
Easter Bunny needs to get busy.
We have the classic
parents Easter Bunny evening.
Yep, yep.
So that'll be late,
making sure the Easter Bunny
takes care of their stuff.
Yeah, yeah, I mean, he has to be ready.
So yeah, but we might have to film
at a different time next week,
because one of us is out of town all
weekend, next weekend.
Oh, we have a soccer
tournament next weekend in Austin.
Oh no, it's a showcase, that's right.
Showcase, but yeah, yeah, so.
Well, we're getting good at that now.
We're figuring that out.
Yeah.
We only had like two or three days
in between these shoes.
Yeah, you know?
These are hard.
Yeah, hey, we are
nothing if not flexible.
Are we though?
I would not say we're
fucking uncomfortable.
Okay, bring up.
Maybe not, it doesn't
mean that we're comfortable.
It just means that we have to be there.
I don't know.
Yeah, I don't know where we are.
Yeah, I don't know either, I don't know.
Flexible is not one that we are.
I mean, we're pretty,
what's the word I'm looking for there?
Anal?
Inflexible?
(laughing) Yeah, inflexible.
I don't know.
Yeah, tomorrow's next
week is a normal week though,
next week in we're out of town,
but I think regular work
week, kids are in school.
Yep.
Yeah, I mean, we're
really looking for the tide
to turn a little bit on
some stress alleviation.
Yeah, just honestly, like I said,
just normalcy, getting back to normalcy
and not just bombshell after bombshell,
like, okay, now we're
gonna have to deal with this
and clean up that one and yeah, so.
Yeah, I don't know, I mean.
I don't know.
There's all those
sayings out there, right?
Yeah, yeah.
Only gives you what you can handle.
Right.
I feel like I'm there.
I really feel like I
can't handle anymore.
(laughing)
Don't wanna, I'm not a good juggler.
We used to have juggling
in PE, I don't know why.
It doesn't seem to be
like a PE kind of a thing,
but anyway, I do remember
being in elementary school
and doing like juggling, I was terrible.
Yeah, I was terrible, so I
think that just translated
into the metaphorical
juggling of adulthood.
I wish, I wish that was a moment
that you would have just been like,
So incredibly, I'm a very good juggler.
so incredibly, I have
the talent of juggling.
I can juggle like six balls at a time,
(laughing)
That is hilarious.
I never made a thousand scarves.
Another one of those whoa.
you know, or six bowling pins at a time.
We've been together for over 20 years.
You know me way too well.
Think if that was one of my talents,
you would have realized.
coordination is that good?
Oh, you have been using that.
I mean, like so impressive.
No, I never juggled
anything other than scarves.
Hey, hey, hey, oh.
I imagine that's what
jugglers do in there,
getting the attention from juggling.
I'm juggling.
I don't have hand-eye
coordination, you kidding me?
It's terrible.
Well, all right, well,
our new, that was a
big um, sorry about that.
We're pretty good about not the um's,
but the new closing,
should we do it again?
Try it again.
Yeah.
We're gonna summarize,
what did we summarize?
This last week?
This last week, yeah.
A single word.
And a single word.
Okay.
Yep.
I'm trying to think.
Let me give me one second.
Everybody else think
along, but you're a week two.
I only gave you like
one second last time.
Yeah.
Because right now I've
got a two word summary.
I gotta figure out a word
that summarizes two words now.
I got one word.
That's a very long pause.
I was like, oh my gosh,
did you actually like pause yourself?
Yeah, I know, it felt like a pause.
Yeah, that was really good.
You didn't even blink.
Yeah, we'll cut that out, don't worry.
Well, I mean, you actually did pee pee,
people, patients last week.
So maybe the rule is
not just a single word.
So we'll extend it to
two words right for now.
Right, right.
And maybe a paragraph next week.
Okay, are you ready?
Well, and I already know
it's not gonna be the same word
because mine's only one.
Yeah, well that's good.
Okay, okay.
Are you ready?
Here we go.
One, two, three.
Surviving.
Pile on.
That's pretty close.
It's pretty dark close.
Yeah.
On a scale of one to 10 of similarities,
survival was yours
and piling on was mine.
So really it's talking about, yeah,
that's where we're at.
Things are just
piling on and you're like,
we just gotta survive.
We're just surviving, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So how close would you say we are?
What, scale of one to 10?
Well, the words are not similar,
but the theme is right on.
That's a nine out of 10.
Yeah, I agree.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, we'll work on that, people.
Maybe next week it'll
be a little bit less.
Maybe we'll move from
piling on and surviving
to swimming upstream or, I don't know.
Where do I buy a 25 year old?
For a night.
We've gotten way wrong.
We went the wrong direction.
Yeah, that won't be a highlight.
I probably should take that one out.
Because that doesn't apply to me.
It applies to that guy.
That was kind of a throwback to our,
we spent 25 minutes on.
We are so long right now, we gotta go.
We gotta go, all right.
Until next time.
We're gonna go, love you hun.
All right, love you.
See ya.
Bye. Bye.