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Welcome to Gem Mint & Authentic, the official Burbank Sportscards podcast.
Hosted by The Cardfather Rob Veres, Sammy Veres, and comedian Jeff Garlin, Gem Mint & Authentic takes you inside the world's largest sports card shop and the hobby that's captivating collectors around the globe.
Each episode blends breaking hobby news, behind-the-scenes stories from Burbank Sportscards, conversations with athletes, celebrities, collectors, and industry insiders, plus honest discussions about the cards, moments, and memories that make collecting special.
Whether you've been collecting for decades, are returning to the hobby, or just pulled your first big card, you'll find entertaining conversations, expert insight, and plenty of laughs along the way.
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Speaker 2:Let's go.
Speaker 1:This is the first episode of our Untitled at the Moment podcast, where we are here with Rob Veres, the card father, and Jeff Garlin. Would you guys be able to give a quick intro about yourselves? And also, what made you fall in love with collecting? Let's add that.
Speaker 3:Oh, look at her with the questions
Speaker 2:right off the bat. Yeah. Want me to go first, Jeff?
Speaker 3:Of course. I you know, start with me because it's an energy thing. And I'm always told I have too much energy and I talk too loud. Look who I'm sitting across from. So, I'm Jeff Garlin.
Speaker 3:I'm a comedian of some notoriety. I if you have, I hope you've enjoyed my work. If you haven't seen me yet, I doubt you will enjoy because you would have been a comedy fan who comedy fans dig me. That's the way I can say it. Alright.
Speaker 3:Anyone else that's a free, you know, same with like curb fans. They're mostly comedy fans. Anyhow, so, that was a good intro for me.
Speaker 2:I don't think
Speaker 3:And then I fell in love with cards, during, the nineteen sixty nine baseball season, which is really when I fell in love with baseball. I was seven years old. That was the year the cubs blew this greatly. It was really '60. The major years for the cubs were 1945 when the curse of the billy goat happened.
Speaker 3:Right. Which is the dumbest curse in the history of the universe. Think about it. Alright. So the Red Sox sold Babe Ruth to their arch rivals.
Speaker 3:That's the worst one ever. Yeah. The cubs didn't let a restaurateur from Chicago. They didn't let a guy with a goat in to watch the world series. And the guy with a goat who's never been known to have special powers put a curse on the cubs, and they call it the curse of the billy goat.
Speaker 3:That's a dumbass curse. So the next year, the people talk about a 69, which we were cruising, and then the bottom fell out, and the Mets took over and they won the world series. And so that year is when I got my first pack of, tops baseball cards. And I remember, in because I was like, oh, how up a cubs in there, you know? And I opened up the pack.
Speaker 3:I remember it so clearly, I got goosebumps. I'm I was at my grandfather's house in Lincoln, Lincolnwood, Illinois, and it was one pack. It wasn't like, you know, can I buy one pack? And I was seven. I'm cool.
Speaker 3:And I open, wouldn't it be great if we looked at life that way that we were like a seven year old grateful for one pack? That would be nice. Yeah, really, it's a different time. I want to go back. I'm gonna, I'm gonna give updates on here about my, going back to being seven.
Speaker 3:Okay. Okay. In terms of appreciating stuff, we'll revisit. Okay. Well, we will revisit, Rob.
Speaker 3:So anyhow, I opened the pack and I got a rookie card. I believe it was three players on a card, a cubs and Don Young was on the card. And Don Young is famous in Chicago for older Chicago Cubs fans for dropping a Keith Fly ball, which I don't know if it was in the I don't know when it was, but during the season, it was a big deal. And that was my first ever cub.
Speaker 2:Yeah. You know, I think I grew up in Brockton, Massachusetts. So I both I think we can both relate to being long suffering fans
Speaker 3:of well, by the way, the joke of everything is these are these are what they what would you what they call it? Paris is the sister city of Chicago. We were sister cities. Yes. We had a very similar rhythm.
Speaker 3:And And we were both so close, so close so many times. And then finally, thanks to one man, it all changed.
Speaker 2:Who is that man? David Ortiz? No. Oh, for me?
Speaker 3:No. Oh, who's the one man responsible for both teams?
Speaker 2:Oh, the architect of the
Speaker 3:Theo Episode Theo Episode. Correct. Imagine being that guy's a hall of famer. He turned to he won World Series in the two long suffering family. That's amazing.
Speaker 3:Amazing. Actually. It's
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, we got similar situations. We've got pennant race collapses. Oh my God. You know, we've got a ball going through someone's legs and you have friends reaching
Speaker 3:memories of like Bucky Dent.
Speaker 2:Bucky F and Bill Buckard Bill F and Buckner. Yes Card
Speaker 1:father. And if they don't know which they totally should you own Burbank sports cards and have owned it for thirty seven years.
Speaker 2:Yeah I mean, my love affair with cards really started about 1974. I believe that was my first pack and see that. No, that was 1975. Okay. You're part of the Gold Dust twins with Fred Lynn.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but this was '74 right before and just opening a pack and seeing Rico Petrucelli
Speaker 3:was boomer on that team still
Speaker 2:George Scott. I believe he was. Yes. And yeah, so I mean, I just fell in love with cards at that moment. And then 1975 was really when I'm like, that's when I was like, I really want to complete the set of this, and that's really when the trading with your local friends came into play and '75 tops is one of the all time great designs.
Speaker 2:Yes, but for a Red Sox fan To have Fred Lynn and Jim Rice's rookie cards in the same series that was just absolutely magical to me, and I was nine years old, and those Red Sox were everything to me, and they got so close. They got so close. Fisk had that home run. It was the latest I've ever been up my whole life because that was about midnight. Yes, East Coast time and my parents let me stay away.
Speaker 3:Those arms swinging on fist. Who doesn't remember that?
Speaker 2:That is just
Speaker 3:the haven't seen it. Go to YouTube.
Speaker 2:Go to YouTube, but that was probably seared in my mind is my favorite sports moment of all time because everything's so much bigger. Yes. When you're young.
Speaker 3:Oh my god. It's huge. But also that was in the era. Now I think that was a night game if I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah. No. It was a night
Speaker 3:game. Because remember, I don't know what year they switched to night games, but I remember running home from school to watch the a's. It was always the a's in the world series. Yeah. Daytime.
Speaker 3:Yeah. Daytime pretending I was sick. Yeah. To stay home from school. Truly Yeah,
Speaker 2:sure. I mean, those days were a big roadblock in the American League. That's for sure. And you think about those super teams before everyone was getting traded all the time. I mean, you had those reds.
Speaker 2:You had those A's. You know, you had the Orioles, the Orioles, the seventies. Yeah. And I think that went for almost every sport.
Speaker 3:Dodgers were not involved in that. Dodgers played good, but they weren't till the late seventies. Right. Yankees weren't part of that. No.
Speaker 3:Stunk.
Speaker 2:That's right.
Speaker 3:For a long time. Pre Steinbrenner.
Speaker 2:Yeah. People don't always remember that, but they had a rough stretch.
Speaker 3:They rough, rough, rough. And so, and then they had the two guys. I forget their names who switched wives. Oh, Fritz Peterson,
Speaker 2:Yankees, Fritz Peterson and Oh, my God.
Speaker 3:Look it up. Look it up.
Speaker 1:What do we mean by switched wives?
Speaker 3:In other words, exactly what you think they swap families Like why? Literally they swap families. Yeah.
Speaker 2:You can't make that up.
Speaker 3:No, you cannot. But that was during the stinky years. Yeah. They had to do something to gain attention. They did.
Speaker 3:Mike Keckich. Mike Keckich. There you go. Boom. Diggity.
Speaker 3:Yeah. That was something. And you know what's so funny is I knew that as a little kid, and it still made me go. What the hell happened there? You know?
Speaker 2:It was seventies.
Speaker 3:It was a different time. Yes. Winging seventies. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Wow.
Speaker 3:Isn't that crazy?
Speaker 1:That is insane. But this is fun. I feel like this kind of sums up what the podcast is like going to be about.
Speaker 3:Oh, And
Speaker 1:I'm going to learn a lot from you guys. Like vintage card collecting just leaves like nostalgic memories. Yeah. So I'm
Speaker 2:Memories is it's like music. It's one of those rare things that every time you think of a player, you think of their cards and you think of the first time you saw their cards.
Speaker 3:That's even true when you think about it for the junk wax era, sir, because there are kids who that was their first year or their favorite players rookie card, even though there's 9,000,000 of them. Doesn't matter. It does not matter. Yeah. And you know, the thing with you and I is we both are vintage freaks.
Speaker 3:We love the world of vintage, except there's a problem for me. Yeah. Now you own a store. That's like being a cocaine dealer who does coke. You're not going to get involved in that.
Speaker 3:Right. Mean but for me I still collect. I still get the same juice not the same but in terms of I want to stop. Yeah. And I can't.
Speaker 3:I can't. Yeah. And and if I can introduce this today I am going to be opening every podcast a box of the tops seventy fifth year, series one, twenty twenty six cards, because there's a mantle, card, rookie card. Yeah. Rookie card.
Speaker 3:A high grade in one of these. It has not been. So once it's caught, there's something I'm going to stop opening these, but I'm going to do it on the long, long, long shot, right? Long, long, longer, that I pull it because that'd be fun. I love to see what else I pull.
Speaker 3:Sure. Fun. Sure.
Speaker 1:Amazing And we'll do that at the end. Just for suspense. We'll open up some packs at the end. So I
Speaker 3:love I know. I'm gonna open one right now. Easy. She's
Speaker 2:the car daughter. Just so you know, by the
Speaker 3:way, you know how to respect I have for she's an excellent human being. She is a sweetheart. She's a sweetheart, just like her.
Speaker 1:Mother right answer. Right answer.
Speaker 3:So I'm opening up this. Now these are my favorite. These are my favorite cards. These still give me a rush like when I was a kid.
Speaker 2:Top flagship.
Speaker 3:No, no, everything. Yes, but they're too thin. But anyhow, the, the cards you get with the sparkly stuff and everything. I look, by the way, I have bought from here so many of those packs that you have. They usually go for about $20.
Speaker 3:Yeah. Yeah. Which I get a kick out. Alright. So here we got.
Speaker 3:We got a beautiful mookie mookie bets. I almost called him mookie. Gorgeous. Andrew McCutchen, which nobody I love that he's still in the pirates. Is he still in the pirates?
Speaker 3:They keep him this year.
Speaker 2:I believe he still is.
Speaker 3:Yeah. He, a legendary pirate as well as, one that was great. He was one of the great players.
Speaker 2:He had a five,
Speaker 3:six year stretch.
Speaker 2:He was one of the best players in baseball.
Speaker 3:Williams rookie card. So I did I get a good one? You bet. Parker Messick, who's destroying for the Indians in his rookie year rookie card. Did anyone hear what I just said?
Speaker 3:Rookie card. Rookie card. And then, of course, some sort of thing advertising something. Alright. So there you go.
Speaker 3:That was fun.
Speaker 2:Yeah. It's what it's supposed to be. Get back to vintage.
Speaker 3:I'm gonna do it during the show. Yeah. Because you know why? Here's the thing. Forty four years I've been doing I'm in show business.
Speaker 3:There's a word called lulls. Lull. Yeah. Lull. Yeah.
Speaker 3:And we're gonna have them. Yeah. Even with Rob and myself, there will be a moment. Don't know when that's when I reach for the
Speaker 1:There you go. I love that. We'll intersperse. It'll be great. It'll be fabulous.
Speaker 2:But is there any better way to handle a lull than to open a pack of cars? Yes. I mean, this is unique.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it is.
Speaker 1:Yeah, super unique,
Speaker 2:you know, and I think one of the things that we share is just the touch and the texture when you're looking at vintage cards because they feel I mean, you're touching new cards right now.
Speaker 3:These these are, of course, sort of like a chrome card, right? But the tops flagship for whatever reason. Yeah. And they know the reason better than me are crazy thin. Yeah.
Speaker 3:And that is the only reason I don't collect that set. If I was gonna collect sets and I do modern heritage
Speaker 2:100%
Speaker 3:Heritage is the most fun. Yes, it's the most reasonably priced, right? And you still get good pulls
Speaker 2:and the design is based on a vintage year generally. Yes, they started those in 2001 with the 52 top set and every single year forward.
Speaker 3:Yes,
Speaker 2:they've been doing a new year. And this year, I believe is 1977. Yes, which was, you know, another for me another great memory set right there. But I think there's a smell to vintage cards. There's a feel.
Speaker 2:There's a texture. There's everything.
Speaker 3:The gong smell.
Speaker 2:Yeah. And you know what? You might think I'm jaded because I see all this stuff all the time and it might not be the same as you. I guarantee it's the same as you because I get to play with all the vintage in this place.
Speaker 3:Well, you know when they come here ahead of time, you know? Yeah. That's why for me Monday mornings, I went to the case before anyone else. Yeah. I found an autograph Billy Williams.
Speaker 3:Yeah. Which was very exciting for me,
Speaker 2:and it's rare. We had a 51 Bowman Willie Mays in there,
Speaker 3:which is, But Billy Mays rookie
Speaker 2:Willie Mays rookie cut, which we don't have very
Speaker 3:good for.
Speaker 2:Yeah, decent grade and
Speaker 3:Oh, no, no, no. What are you saying decent world do you live in? I live in the world who doesn't own a card shop. So you'd like a seven Willie Mays rookie. But the point is for a collector.
Speaker 3:Yeah. That's a great, great great card.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Yeah. I think and that's the grade where it's maybe not affordable to most people, but if you're in the market for a maze, you get both the affordability and the fact that It's not like hammered.
Speaker 3:I haven't Ernie Banks. Mhmm. A rookie created a four. Uh-huh. It brings me great joy every day.
Speaker 3:I bet
Speaker 2:it does.
Speaker 3:It's on my desk.
Speaker 2:I bet it does, and we'll eventually get to my personal collection. That gives me great joy
Speaker 1:every day. We will talk about that.
Speaker 2:That's a future episode for sure. Episode episode. Yeah that one could go a couple
Speaker 3:of days. You know what I'm going to do in the future today. I didn't prepare for it. I'm going to bring in a card. Every week to grade.
Speaker 1:I love that.
Speaker 2:Oh, it's a great idea.
Speaker 3:Great idea. Great. So by the time we're done doing the show of grade 900 cards,
Speaker 2:at least. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1:at least. But on the topic of all this vintage guys, do we have ideas of what the podcast name should be?
Speaker 2:You know, I think we're gonna go to this whatever I come up with.
Speaker 3:No, I want to hear if you have any.
Speaker 2:You know what about it?
Speaker 3:Just I nothing has stopped. He sent us.
Speaker 1:I'm gonna have to look. One of them was the Hobby Boomers, which I thought was funny.
Speaker 2:You're not wrong.
Speaker 1:Could be. Okay You had an idea, though, Jeff.
Speaker 3:Well, I don't know where Burbank sports cards comes in the title. Yeah, it would be. Touch them all with Burbank sports cards.
Speaker 2:Okay Touch them all is not a bad one whatsoever.
Speaker 3:What do mean? That's what we do. It's a good one.
Speaker 2:It's a really good one.
Speaker 3:It's all you added really good for you.
Speaker 2:No, it really
Speaker 3:is the reason it is because that's what we're doing.
Speaker 2:We're going to touch all the bases.
Speaker 3:Yeah So I like that. It's a baseball phrase, so touch them all, but we're not going to agree to because someone including myself could come up with a better one. Yeah Yeah.
Speaker 1:Okay. Well, we'll think on it. We'll think on it.
Speaker 2:Like actually, I really do like touch them all.
Speaker 1:You do?
Speaker 3:I do. Okay solid one. Yeah, definitely hit me because I saw they're all crappy. The ones he said. Oh my God.
Speaker 3:The truth is, by the way, I'm going say this that the only things that I'll say on the show that are funny are ones that I just say. Right. When I try and be funny with him, can you imagine if the success rate on that is like, you know what? I'll even give credit. It's the equivalent of being a 300 hitter.
Speaker 3:So three out of 10 will be funny. Who knows to what degree? It's wonderful. We'll eat it. Eat it.
Speaker 3:Not worth the not worth the chance.
Speaker 2:But you know what being a 300 hitter gets you?
Speaker 3:The Hall of Fame. Well, he's already in my hall There you go.
Speaker 1:There you go. Speaking of actually, this is fun. I had some questions for you guys. This is our next segment, the state of the hobby, so we'll just talk about some, you know, trending questions that people might want to hear from experts like you guys.
Speaker 3:Sure
Speaker 1:but and I Jeff, I think you'll be really good at this one as well. So our first question. What cards or players do you think are severely undervalued right now? Who's a player that's doing amazing?
Speaker 3:I know the answer to that.
Speaker 1:I know. I feel like you know all the niche.
Speaker 3:I'm gonna say one one one term, and it's not a player. Hockey cards. I think hockey cards are underappreciated. I mean, certainly hockey fans, but there are some boy. There are some great cards of great players that you can get, but there's one that you have here in the store, which is weird.
Speaker 3:Excuse my language because I was gonna add a word. This is where so I think hockey cards. Yeah. Except for one card. One card, which I still think is underrated because the equivalent of that in other sports and that is I put it in my pocket.
Speaker 3:Oh. Great 10. Ken Dryden rookie card. Who is the Oh, Ken. Ken Dryden rookie card.
Speaker 3:Ken Dryden is probably the best hot goalie of all time.
Speaker 1:You had that in your pocket?
Speaker 3:No. Well done. From your case, and it is 30 g's.
Speaker 1:Wow.
Speaker 3:Which by the way, I think is a great price. I'll tell you why. Population one. So imagine a one of one rookie card of the greatest goalie of all time, and it's from 1971.
Speaker 2:Wow. And it's o peachy, which is the Canadian version of
Speaker 3:tops,
Speaker 2:which is far and away so much tougher to get a high grade copy of because of the way they were cut. Yeah.
Speaker 3:Saw you have a great Gretzky rookie in there. Yeah. And it's a high grade. Yeah. But the way it's cut, it's rough.
Speaker 3:It's it's a big ball rough, but this is something by the way. Can we work out a payment plan where I pay a $100 for thirty weeks? No. No. That'd 3,000.
Speaker 3:Yeah. A little short.
Speaker 2:30,000 a week.
Speaker 3:Yeah. This is a card that I man.
Speaker 2:I'm gonna
Speaker 3:next TV series. I will not be able to get this because someone will get this, but hockey cards in general are underappreciated. Great answer.
Speaker 2:That's a thousand percent. You know why? In here, people that collect baseball cards and a lot of cases collect basketball and football as well and vice versa. Hockey fans only collect hockey for the most part, they're probably as passionate as any other sport.
Speaker 3:Right. And I think hockey fans, if I may, are the best fans in sports. Yeah. And I think hockey players are the best players in sports, and I'll explain why hockey players love it. Yes.
Speaker 3:Love it. I mean, even look like a guy like, Connor McDavid. What did he do? He signed for way less Yeah. Which the players association was not thrilled with because he wanted to give his team a chance.
Speaker 3:Right. But that's about to end. Yeah. Yeah. One more year and that guy's gone for a ton of money.
Speaker 3:Yeah. He's gonna be But that's not the point. The point is the players are so passionate about the Stanley Cup. Gary Betman would never say it's just a a tin thing. What about the baseball thing you referred to the World Series trophy as, again, a look up.
Speaker 3:He looked he insulted the World Series. I remember, but
Speaker 2:I don't remember what he said.
Speaker 3:It was pretty bad. Look, what are you doing? You're you're
Speaker 1:you're interested.
Speaker 2:All you have to
Speaker 3:do By the way, I am being demanding because she volunteered to look. She did. It wasn't like Yeah. I I I Like aren't you looking? No,
Speaker 2:she didn't.
Speaker 1:I'm looking. So what was the question about the World Series trophy?
Speaker 3:Okay. What did the commissioner call the World Series trophy?
Speaker 2:The baseball commissioner.
Speaker 3:I think it was 10. You know, the point being is hockey players are so passionate so about their sport. They care about the legends and the legacy. Yeah. I don't feel that in others.
Speaker 3:By the way, plenty of people feel like that players in other sports. Right. But we know damn well Yeah. That plenty of other players are not in it for the love of the game and hockey players are in it for the love of game. Not saying they're not all professionals.
Speaker 3:You have the answer.
Speaker 1:I do. So Rob Manfred referred to it as a piece of metal.
Speaker 3:A piece of Wow. Fucking metal. Right Right. So that shows right there a big problem with baseball. Yeah.
Speaker 3:You're the commissioner Yeah. Of the game of baseball.
Speaker 2:Yeah. This is the ultimate price.
Speaker 3:Hockey fans, primarily my niece. I got her into it, but my niece collects hockey cards. Yeah. Only. Yeah.
Speaker 3:And she's passionate. And when I open boxes, I give them to her. Right. Except for Connor Bedard rookies. She's got everything that in in any modern box, and that's all she cares about.
Speaker 3:And that's the thing about hockey fans. They're so passionate. They only want to focus on hockey.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they're criminally underrated. Yes. Bobby Orr was my guy growing up in Boston. Obviously, Orr number four
Speaker 3:number four Bobby Hall for me against the blues. Do you know a sad story? This is really sad. I had an autograph picture of Bobby Hall and Bobby Orr that was like certified. Uh-huh.
Speaker 3:I gave it to a friend of mine who was a big Bruins fan. I thought he'd look for his birthday. Uh-huh. He lived in the Palisades. It burned in the fire.
Speaker 3:Brutal. Brutal.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 3:I mean, it certainly brutally lost his house and all his belongings. But that one particular belonging. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Wow. The sentimentality. Yeah. See, and we have another thing here with Bobby or because he left the Bruins to go where to the Blackhawks broke my heart.
Speaker 3:By the way, it shouldn't. He was no good at that.
Speaker 2:The knees were shot. The knees were shot.
Speaker 3:It wasn't like with the Blackhawks. It's like he had a second wind. Yeah, you know, and
Speaker 2:you know what? He also shared something with Ken Dryden is that they left the sport very young. They were both right around 30 years old. Ken Dryden wanted to go back to school at one point.
Speaker 3:Wanted to. He did.
Speaker 2:He did. I know.
Speaker 3:He became part of the government of Canada. He's one of the remote. And by the way, what do you else you think he did? Well, he
Speaker 2:prevented my Bruins from going to the Stanley Cup a lot of times. Yes.
Speaker 3:He broadcast without Michael, the miracle on ice.
Speaker 2:Son of gun. You're right. You're right. I totally forgot about that.
Speaker 3:Can't. Will you please look up?
Speaker 1:I'll get
Speaker 3:nicer. Ken Dryden's accomplishments outside of hockey. They're remarkable impressive.
Speaker 2:Yes, they are.
Speaker 3:But I think that this is man. If you come to the store and you're loaded, let's just say you're a dentist. Yes. Please don't buy this card because you're taking it. No, you're probably the only person who could afford it that or a lawyer or corporate businessman.
Speaker 3:What? Tell me the economy.
Speaker 1:He's an author. He wrote hockey books, including the game.
Speaker 3:Hold on. The game.
Speaker 1:The game
Speaker 3:forget that he wrote it That is widely considered the greatest book about hockey ever written. Wow.
Speaker 1:Crazy. Not only that, was a member of parliament in Canada for seven years.
Speaker 3:Seven years. Impressive.
Speaker 1:He was the president of the Toronto Maple Leafs.
Speaker 3:Mhmm.
Speaker 1:And he's
Speaker 3:one we shouldn't include. Yeah. Right
Speaker 2:Talk about long suffering.
Speaker 3:Yeah
Speaker 1:And, yeah, and on top of being a hockey player, so it's pretty impressive.
Speaker 3:Said Miracle on ice
Speaker 2:to his winning percentage, I believe might be the best winning percentage for a goalie of all time, and I'm I'm pretty sure in the playoffs. I think definitely having him and Dominic Halsic have probably the best winning percentage. Yeah those you could argue like two of the very best goalie Patrick Washer.
Speaker 3:There's so many great, but I think Dryden is the guy when you think about all of it, put all of it put together.
Speaker 2:Think at the top at the top of his game, he might be the greatest goalie of
Speaker 3:all time. Yeah, no. So that's a hell of a card. No, no, really. Saw it because I peruse the website every day, do the browse and I go into I have to type in hockey because by the way, that's alright criticism of the store.
Speaker 1:Oh wait. Hold on. I've
Speaker 3:got it. Okay The browse. Yeah. It doesn't include hockey.
Speaker 1:Shameless plug. Shameless plug. You should download
Speaker 2:our app. Someone's getting fired.
Speaker 3:Do you think is it in the app?
Speaker 1:You should download our
Speaker 2:app.
Speaker 1:I believe it's there online, but
Speaker 3:it might be in the app. Probably is. But the point is plenty of people are not downloading the app. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Okay, that's gonna change.
Speaker 1:Burbank cards.
Speaker 3:Hockey fans, you know, so that needs to be on there because it's frustrating for me because I want to go there, too.
Speaker 1:There you go.
Speaker 3:As a matter of fact, hockey is my number three now. Passed basketball. Mhmm. I don't really I had Clipper season tickets for the last three years. I gave them up.
Speaker 3:I don't really dig certainly Webinaya, and certainly what a great finals. Oh my god. I mean, really exciting. Dream finals. But in general, it just doesn't do it for me.
Speaker 3:And hockey has become my number three. Yeah and by a great margin,
Speaker 2:I'd argue it's the best Spectator sport live experience at
Speaker 3:the hockey sports. Oh, yeah. And one of the worst TV.
Speaker 2:Yeah. Oh, yeah. No, it's
Speaker 3:notoriously been the worst TV, but still if they've made great improvements. But, yeah, hockey in person. Good luck trying to find a better experience.
Speaker 2:Well, back to the cards and how it relates to hockey is I was I bought a nice vintage deal of hockey, and I was just shocked. How many cards of Bobby or that you could buy for $10.15 dollars 20 or Wayne Gretzky, the greatest. He'd have some really tough inserts from the nineties that you almost never see
Speaker 3:right,
Speaker 2:and they're like $20.30 $40 and you compare that to what Michael Jordan cards of that era would be, and it's criminally undervalued. I think. Like you said, I think that's a part of the business that has a lot of growth opportunity.
Speaker 3:A lot of growth opportunities. Matter of fact, I did. I pulled that one out today. Was looking to get one, although I saw in the case. $25 Bobby Orr card from the seventies.
Speaker 2:Isn't that something
Speaker 3:that's nuts?
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's nuts. And again, I mean, he's my childhood hockey hero.
Speaker 3:I loved him as a kid too.
Speaker 2:Was young.
Speaker 3:He was magical.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he was 18 years old. Just, you know, running up and down the ice. No, was making everyone look slow.
Speaker 3:And then, of course, for me, Bobby Hall and Stan Makita. Sure. And Tony Espisode.
Speaker 2:Oh Tony zero.
Speaker 3:Yeah. Yeah. I got to meet. I saw you know there's these memories of when you meet people. I didn't meet Makita the improv in Chicago, the old one, which used to be on Wall Street.
Speaker 3:They had this nice bar. People used to come in to drink. And Makita was by himself drinking, not getting sloshed. But I mean, having a drink and sitting. And I wanted to approach him, but I wanted to leave him.
Speaker 3:He looked quiet, you know, like he was having a quiet moment. And for me, by the way, undiagnosed at the time, ADHD and bipolar. I'm surprised I didn't interrupt him and and was annoying as crap. Like I am in this podcast even though I medicated as we speak.
Speaker 2:Is there more of an ultimate respect value?
Speaker 3:Yes. Yes. Yes. Bobby Hall on the other hand, I met him in front of a hotel in Chicago and he was a bit sauced. Really?
Speaker 3:A bit sauced. I don't know his history with that. It might have been just one night. I don't know. And then Tony, I met at the, I went to the Blackhawks.
Speaker 3:I did the hitting of the you know, at halftime or
Speaker 2:you try to score score the goal
Speaker 3:in the little pocket. Yeah, I did. No history of hockey in my life except for like garage hockey as a kid in Chicago.
Speaker 2:That's awesome.
Speaker 3:Yeah I mean, I could, but anyhow, all these Hall of Famers Hawks Hall of Famers were there. And I met them all and one was Tony Esposito is very exciting.
Speaker 2:He was another one of the greats. Bernie Parent. It's like the golden age of gold think so, anyway. Hockey, I'm
Speaker 3:gonna give a shout out to right now to his family, Gump Worsley, and I want to just say what the best name in the history of sports. Gump. His last name could be Smith. His last name could be, Schwartz. Doesn't matter.
Speaker 3:When you have a Gump up front Yeah. Worsely combined with it, which is an interesting last name, greatest name in sports. And you can always come up with different like Pete Lacock. Right. You know, stuff like that.
Speaker 3:But Gump, when you think about a real name, not just a silly name, Gump. And to be the goalie. To be the goalie.
Speaker 2:It's like the cherry
Speaker 3:on top. Yeah. Yeah. To be the goalie. I have a Gump Worsley T shirt, long sleeve T shirt, which I love, but it's a large and I fit into it because I am a large, but extra large is what I wear.
Speaker 3:So if anyone has great interest in that, please let us
Speaker 1:reach out to us. So hockey is undervalued underrated. That's that's our final answer. I like it. And that card was a great example of it.
Speaker 1:That was really, really cool.
Speaker 3:By the way, think about this card. If it was Jordan, we're luck. We're looking at by the way. A 100,000,000. No.
Speaker 3:I mean, no. But you don't say 30,000,000. Yeah. It's 25,000,000.
Speaker 2:It's well into the seven figures.
Speaker 3:100. Sure. Yeah, for sure. So, yeah, I would say eight figures.
Speaker 2:I mean, just think of a PSA ten eighty four eighty five star Jordan and what that would go for
Speaker 3:30,000 is almost a ridiculous price. Yeah, you know, there you go.
Speaker 1:Amazing. And so, we actually I put out a little question sticker on our instagram of things that they might want to ask you guys. And someone had a fun question for you, Rob. They asked if you didn't have a career at Burbank cards, where do you think you would be right now?
Speaker 3:That's cool.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that is a really cool card. I mean, the fact that
Speaker 3:you call questions cards Did
Speaker 2:I do that?
Speaker 3:Was a really
Speaker 2:cool card. I think I just did. You know, having owned this since I was 22 and having worked here since I was 12. You know, my father really wanted me to take over the family business, which was heating and air conditioning. He had 140 employees who would have been really easy for me to slide into that and be part of the family business, except for one thing.
Speaker 2:I was terrible at it. I, you know, if two left thumbs, I would hurt myself more working on things than actually completing things, and it became really clear really early that that wasn't going to be for me. Except one thing. What's that?
Speaker 3:You found this card in one of the old air conditioning. Yeah. That's what you guys have
Speaker 1:started his career.
Speaker 3:Behind the wall in an old unit. Perfect. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah. But you know, it was like, what else would I have the skill set to do because this has been my life's work, my passion and you know, I'm in the sales business and maybe I'd be able to sell things and Sally would always be what else would you even do if something happened to the business? I mean, to be honest, I'm not really sure what I'm cut out to do. I'm a junior college dropout, you know?
Speaker 3:I think you'd be, this is not like a joke. I think you'd in this day and age, forget the forties and fifties. Yeah. I think you would be successful as a door to door vacuum salesman. I really do.
Speaker 3:I know it's funny, but I really do. I think there's nothing sales wise that you couldn't do if you're passionate. Yeah, and I know you collect vacuum cleaners.
Speaker 2:I do. I all the
Speaker 1:collection of his.
Speaker 2:There's actually a store on Magnolia. That's still a vacuum store
Speaker 3:that does repairs. I see it all the time down the street. Yeah. But what
Speaker 2:would I do? I mean, there was nothing I have the passion to do. Well, I don't think because this has been my life's work. But if I had to do something, I would love to be in the music business in one way, shape or form. I've played drums and bands forever.
Speaker 2:And, I would have loved to maybe only used record store. I think that that's something that I might have had the passion for. That would probably be the one thing that would stand out to me because my love of music and hopefully my love of sports has led us, you know, to this business. I think that my love of music might have led me to success and, and selling albums.
Speaker 3:I think I would have
Speaker 2:been pretty good at it. To be
Speaker 1:honest, I'm hearing you would still be a business owner, probably no matter what or vacuum door to door salesman
Speaker 2:would have loved to have been the left fielder for the Red Sox and been up against the Green Monster, or I would have loved to have been the drummer that replaced Keith mood. But those weren't my skill sets.
Speaker 1:That's valid. I have one quote. You always say you say I have no and no more marketable skills. Besides
Speaker 2:this is pretty much you know my life's work, so I've never really put my thoughts into anything else
Speaker 3:as a card collector. Thank you, pal.
Speaker 1:Yeah. Thank you for
Speaker 2:my welcome. Welcome. That's that's from the heart.
Speaker 1:It is. It really is. I love that. And so now into a fun next segment, which I think you guys will have a lot of fun with the hobby hot take. What's one hobby opinion you think people would disagree with for each of you?
Speaker 3:Oh, disagree with? Yeah. Oh, Jesus. Where do you start? Yeah.
Speaker 3:Where do you this is it? This is it. Not that they'd agree with me, but they disagree with me.
Speaker 1:Agree.
Speaker 3:Cards. No. I I try I'm trying to making up a fake one because I don't have any. I think I'm the common man when it comes to Right. I posted on Instagram a post that I'm not going say went viral because I don't really know what that means.
Speaker 3:And viral sounds like it's sick as opposed to it went healthy. Is that the price for cases not well, it could be cases, but for jumbos and hobbies, initially are way too high for the common man collector. Sure. But once they balloon up because the market, it goes like I used as an example, the, the, tops, chrome football that just came out. Sure.
Speaker 3:And I think it retailed initially for 500 give or take 100. I probably $5.05 99.
Speaker 2:It was meant to be a 500 to $5.99 box originally.
Speaker 3:Okay So you have that? And by the way, I can't blame tops for do I mean, it's a there's a you know, you can sell it for that amount, right? Why don't you? You're not. You're a business.
Speaker 3:You're not a oh, let's and then they have products for little kids. Right. You know what I mean? So that being said, when the boxes of the Chrome football, for example, went from 500 to at one point. I don't know where it is now 1,700 a box.
Speaker 3:Yeah. You know what you're selling for now.
Speaker 1:I don't.
Speaker 3:Because whatever it is is what the market is. You're not ripping anyone off. Right. But that's what it was last time I checked. Yeah.
Speaker 3:And then someone I know gave me a deal not here gave me a deal to buy it for 800. Yeah. And I pulled nothing. Yeah. I pulled nothing right.
Speaker 3:That is anything you know, 8. It's a card that if I remember whatever card it was, it was if this guy plays great Right. And he has a great career, I maybe could get my money back. Yeah.
Speaker 2:That's awful.
Speaker 3:Not a a pull you and that's also not tops fault.
Speaker 2:Not at all.
Speaker 3:They print with a demand. They're a business, and people forget that a lot of times. And like I said, they do have products for kids. I just think the secondary alright. Here's one people would agree with.
Speaker 3:Mhmm. The fact that card collectors will pay anything. They're almost like the carnival. What does it say? Bring them Barker?
Speaker 3:Yes. No. A sucker born every minute. There you go. I I just don't get that because the odds perfect time to open a pack.
Speaker 1:Let's do it.
Speaker 3:But the odds are so small to I mean infant decimal and we got how do I say it?
Speaker 2:I think the second one you got
Speaker 3:infant testing. I
Speaker 2:think so too.
Speaker 3:It's decimal. Yeah like decimal. But it's just I think these people are a little bit crazy and there's something by the way another thing people would disagree on something you don't do Rob right that I admire that what what do you refuse to do when it comes to packs? Breaking. Breaking.
Speaker 3:We don't is the it to me Yeah. That is in fact legalized gambling. Yeah. That is in fact you you're dealt the cards. Yeah.
Speaker 3:That's what you're dealt. Yeah. That to me, I do that by the way, that also, you may love doing it but I think you're also as you're more of a gambler and an addict and I feel for you and get some help. $1,800 whatever those numbers that you think on those commercials for, you know, Bandul right at the bottom of the tiniest letters that you can barely see if you have a problem. Yeah, we don't want you to get cured.
Speaker 2:That's a topic we can go off on it, you know, always, but I think, I think there's like a misconception, especially with the folks that have come in after covid that people don't actually collect cards. They're basically only looking for the big hits. And I call those folks the silent majority. I think that's vast.
Speaker 3:No, no, are. Oh, the ones who
Speaker 2:actually collect.
Speaker 3:So they actually collect. It is the silent majority and people came in truly and you know this better than me because of the covid factor. Yeah. How cards went up, right? And they're only there as prospectors.
Speaker 3:Yeah. That's it.
Speaker 2:Yeah. The we sell thousands of cards a day. And the vast majority of those cards get into the hands of folks that actually have a focus in the hobby and what they collect. They don't have big YouTube channels. They aren't sponsored, you know, by any big companies, but they get the joy out of collecting and it's always been that way.
Speaker 3:Know who's who's, like that in terms of having a thing that is passionate and is so kind to kids is king of cards.
Speaker 2:Oh, he's amazing. Kyle is amazing.
Speaker 3:But he makes he the the card industry, you know, does great because of him.
Speaker 2:You know what
Speaker 3:I mean? It's like that's a winner. That's about the that he plays to the silent majority.
Speaker 2:Yes, he most definitely does. I met him in the store. He came in and we did some content and I don't know. I've never met the guy. He seems real genuine on camera.
Speaker 2:Kids just totally gravitate towards him. And he came in the store. We had like the most genuine conversations and he loved what we do because we represent the actual collector here and we don't do the breaks and we just had a great time and, it became real obvious that he was different. He wasn't like the typical influencer.
Speaker 3:That's right. Enjoy your typical influencers if you choose, but cards.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he comes across real genuine and I've done a lot of interviews in this. We've had every influencer through here that's possible. And as far as he asked the right questions, and I think that's probably the best compliment I can give somebody that comes in here that wants to have an interview is that
Speaker 3:by the way, favorite sport hockey.
Speaker 2:Yes. Yes.
Speaker 3:And he, told me also undervalued. We had a FaceTime with him. So he's real off camera, right? Although that was also a camera. Maybe he was on.
Speaker 3:I don't know.
Speaker 2:I think in any hobby, it's great to have people that are front and center and that hobby and you know, there's a lot of folks out there that might have ulterior motives. I think his or as pure as it gets. Mhmm. And, for that, I'm a big fan of his.
Speaker 3:You know, you're in a position. You've built up this business slowly, I might add Very. To where it's here. And, I don't want it to get bigger than this. Please don't do anything.
Speaker 3:You might have dreamed of other ones like this, and God bless you, but I think you're you're a destination for coming to Los Angeles for people. I know damn well you are. Yeah. You get people from all over the country coming here. So if you put that's another thing.
Speaker 3:So I I seen comedy clubs who are very successful go around the country. It really
Speaker 2:It's not the same.
Speaker 3:Not good for their brand. Yeah. And because there's too many places. It's like Netflix. Too many comedy specials.
Speaker 3:Right. And so they water it down when it when I was a young comedian coming up, your dream was to have an HBO special, and they did 12 a year. Yeah. Now streaming all of them put together, they probably do 12 a month. Yeah.
Speaker 3:Maybe more. And it's the same with
Speaker 2:It diminishes.
Speaker 3:I don't wanna spoil your dream if you had a dream.
Speaker 2:No. That's that's we've never had the dream of opening a second location.
Speaker 3:We won't. Never.
Speaker 2:We won't. We'll never do it.
Speaker 3:This is why I love you. Yes, because that's the key. It's like this is special. You open up one of these in New Hampshire no longer special. You have three of them around the country.
Speaker 3:Another one in Chicago is big. It just takes away. You're a destination.
Speaker 2:It's always a lesser photocopy when you start, you know, expanding that way. I mean, it's not like we're a fast food restaurant.
Speaker 3:Although you do sell fast food in the PSA. Yes, People don't know they go to get their grunt cards graded, but they have great chicken salad sandwich. You can have a salad.
Speaker 2:Yeah. We'll we'll we'll expand the building, but we'll never take the brand elsewhere. We have people.
Speaker 3:What direction could you expand?
Speaker 2:There's a Kmart up on San Fernando Road that's been empty for a long time.
Speaker 3:So you'll move to there from here.
Speaker 2:Okay. If you
Speaker 3:were to do still always a single destination destination. Yes, that's fine. That's kind of fascinating. We by the way, there's an actually an empty Kmart that hasn't been filled yet for years. Oh, by the way, you could get a deal on that.
Speaker 3:I can totally get a Kmart that was so you know what your store will be called. I'm gonna rename it. Blue blue light special cards.
Speaker 1:Blue light special. The funny part, too, is that he's talking about this Kmart stuff. We just hit our one year anniversary being in this store that's used to be a Rite Aid. So
Speaker 2:used to be a Rite Aid.
Speaker 3:By the way, you brought me in here one day when it was the show, there was nothing here. It was a Rite Aid that was completely empty. Yeah. And you could see clearly what it was, and I could not. I couldn't imagine.
Speaker 3:Yeah. Filling that space was with something like this. I couldn't imagine that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I couldn't at first either. It's such a big space to walk around.
Speaker 3:It was Jake when it's empty. It's just like, imagine a right and imagine a Walgreens completely CVS. I want to get them all in there. Aid. Yeah.
Speaker 3:Although Rite Aid I think is going on. I don't know. It's bad. This was Rite Aid. Yes.
Speaker 3:Yeah. So yeah, it was like it's remarkable.
Speaker 2:We were looking for a place that wasn't this big.
Speaker 3:But why wouldn't you look for a place that wasn't this big?
Speaker 2:It's we were looked at the problem was parking and we couldn't find something on a major boulevard where we would have the parking for the traffic that we get And my real estate agent at the time actually still is Mike's my real estate agent. He was Rob, don't move into something like you just did that you're going to want to move out of in three or four years.
Speaker 3:Very
Speaker 2:right. And, the location here at the corner of Magnolia And Hollywood Way.
Speaker 3:As a matter of fact, speaking of food, obviously, I'm kidding about the PSA. The way, I will not change my opinion that it's a hut. Okay. That's a hut. A businessman's island over there.
Speaker 3:But, across the street, imagine many people go across the street, get something they probably come here first because they're that anxious. But if you want to go relax, what's across the street? Porto's bakery bakery, great bakeries, but also the best Cuban sandwiches like all of it's so great.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's there was a couple of reasons that and he's like Rob, this is something to seriously think about. And my thought process A was what's the parking worth? There's 72 parking spots that are ours. What's that worth? And what's it worth this intersection between the studios and the airport?
Speaker 2:They go either direction. Maybe two miles.
Speaker 3:Flying to Bourbon because you're right on Hollywood Way. Yeah. Yeah. Which is where the airport is. Yeah.
Speaker 3:The Burbank Airport which is the Bob Hope Airport which is an airport that throws me back to my childhood. Surely O'Hare was much bigger. Yeah. But I as a kid, I moved to Fort Lauderdale, and, the Fort Lauderdale Airport is very much the fact that Burbank Airport is exactly the same. It was probably fifty years ago is amazing.
Speaker 2:Yeah. It's
Speaker 3:amazing, and it's awesome.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's awesome. The way you can get in and out of
Speaker 3:that airport so quickly in. Yeah, get a few cards, including a Ken Dryden rookie card. Yeah, Ken Dryden rookie card.
Speaker 2:Yeah to me. This is probably the best that I can imagine because we have to stay in Burbank because we're Burbank sports cards.
Speaker 3:So, you could you could go to Sweden.
Speaker 2:Yeah, probably.
Speaker 3:I don't if you're ever in the Burbank over there. It's a little different vibe.
Speaker 2:Well, there's Burbank, Illinois.
Speaker 3:There is I know Burbank outside of Chicago. Yes, Burbank, Illinois, South Side Of Chicago. Yeah it's so we could. It's also a different Burbank. It's a different Burbank.
Speaker 3:So
Speaker 2:we're lucky. We took a big swing with this place. My father actually knew what it would look like before I did. He had his hands on almost this whole building. He'll be 85 this year.
Speaker 3:I know I just talking to him earlier,
Speaker 2:and he he envisioned it probably better than I did from standpoint because it's a seventies looking Rite Aid, you know, and I'm like, God, and then we tore it apart. We had to take out the coolers. There was like 20 refrigeration units there.
Speaker 3:You sold them to me.
Speaker 2:I didn't realize you were scrapper. So that was amazing.
Speaker 3:Then Scrappy. They don't realize I'm a scrapper.
Speaker 2:Of course, we had a pharmacy in the back that had to be torn out as well. It's just so weird.
Speaker 3:Why do I have another complaint?
Speaker 2:What's that?
Speaker 3:Okay. So I'm at this is a plug, but not a plug. I perform here in Burbank Sunday nights at Flappers. Right. Check your the website to see if I'm there that week, but most always every week shows at 07:30, which means I rarely get to come here.
Speaker 3:Before it closes to me a dream would be to stop by here and then go do my show. But I'm here Monday morning recording.
Speaker 2:That's right.
Speaker 3:By the way, if you wanna come by and watch us record, Monday mornings.
Speaker 1:We'll be here.
Speaker 3:Right now, no one in the the store has got a ton of people. No one's even looking at them.
Speaker 2:Isn't that something
Speaker 3:just a couple old
Speaker 2:dudes just, you know, just dream of conscious
Speaker 3:old dudes and
Speaker 2:my sweet
Speaker 3:my sweet little girl, Sammy, here. Keeps the show youthful and bright.
Speaker 2:Yes very
Speaker 1:much. Thank you, but
Speaker 2:would not have any other host in the world. Thank you, Sammy
Speaker 1:means the world. Not even Ryan Seacrest.
Speaker 2:No, not at all.
Speaker 1:Not at would have chosen,
Speaker 2:but I would just be another old guy. We that young, you energy.
Speaker 3:I'm gonna try and work out a deal. Uh-huh. Card for layaway. There you go with a legit amount of money every month. You think I'm kidding.
Speaker 3:I'm not this. This has got to go to me. Amazing too excited.
Speaker 1:It's too good. What do
Speaker 2:I say? When have a good day at the shopper? I say sell a big car. What's my line?
Speaker 1:He says Daddy's going to Outback.
Speaker 3:That's what
Speaker 1:he says.
Speaker 2:That's my line. Daddy's going out.
Speaker 1:But he would go regardless
Speaker 3:Outback Steakhouse.
Speaker 2:It's like my favorite place to go.
Speaker 3:Ask you a quick question. I've never, you know, for the way I eat healthy. Steak houses are the best because they have all sorts of vegetables. Sure. What do you get their shrimp?
Speaker 2:I love the shrimp there. I'll get the, what
Speaker 3:are they old West platter?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'll get something similar to that. I, but, yeah, I love the shrimp and they have like a combo. That's amazing. And they got
Speaker 3:steak combo.
Speaker 2:Yeah, shrimp actually ribs and, shrimp ribs. Yeah, they're actually really good, too.
Speaker 3:I get the ribs and the shrimp and some vegetables.
Speaker 2:I don't do vegetables
Speaker 3:on terrible. Complete the purchase. Let's go there. Dude I'm not even kidding. We're not even kidding.
Speaker 3:We're there, my friend. We are so there.
Speaker 2:That'll be a glorious day.
Speaker 1:Sponsor us. Yeah Episode two at Outback. That's amazing. But to close things out just for funsies, we're going to show a poll like a card that was pulled at the shop at the end of every episode. So this one card father you were here for, but somebody pulled a Cooper flag one of one on a Saturday when it was already insanely busy, so that was super fun.
Speaker 1:And here's the card
Speaker 3:from the tops chrome.
Speaker 1:It was the tops chrome. Yeah, the new.
Speaker 3:No, no, no.
Speaker 2:It was the hoops.
Speaker 1:It the
Speaker 2:It was the fanatics products.
Speaker 3:Fanatics. Fanatics has always loved the hoops product.
Speaker 2:I would imagine, sir.
Speaker 3:Always really. That's the one they put the care into. Yeah forget the other ones.
Speaker 1:So good, but
Speaker 2:it's you know their designs, but look at that design right there. Oasis Oasis. He looks like he's on an island right there. I'm gonna give Fanatics a lot of credit right now. The designs and the different ideas that they have for cards since they've taken over thousand percent.
Speaker 1:Go ahead, Jeff.
Speaker 3:Have no complaints about cards.
Speaker 2:No. Not at all.
Speaker 3:And by the way, I'm gonna give away once an episode to obviously, not today. We're doing three episodes today. But my Ellen and Ginter card.
Speaker 2:Oh, no way.
Speaker 3:I'll sign it. I picked up one here at the shop. Yep. It was just by chance. Unless someone went, he'll probably notice this of of one of my limited ones.
Speaker 3:It wasn't a sign when I signed a few, but it was a piece of my tie from a costume. Right. And it said, something used memorabilia, not game you. Right. Show used.
Speaker 3:I remember, but I I got about it. I don't have one.
Speaker 2:That's a great giveaway idea.
Speaker 3:Yeah. So I got that. So, yes, I will give away to someone in the store when you stop buying. I know I want the Allen and Ginter, Mr Garlin. Yes, I will be yours.
Speaker 3:Just come.
Speaker 2:You know what? I'm gonna do the same thing with the car. Oh, wait. I don't have a card. Oh man.
Speaker 2:Someday, you know, only my goal is to have a card
Speaker 3:that they wouldn't have given you a card yet because you own a card shop, and they've got that'll piss off.
Speaker 1:They've given other people cards
Speaker 3:great because it's great for the industry. Yeah, but certainly most people are envious.
Speaker 2:Yeah someday. That's that is now my goal.
Speaker 1:Put in the universe
Speaker 2:put in the universe, and maybe it's long after I'm gone.
Speaker 3:Or maybe it's a card. It's a card with us on it about the podcast.
Speaker 1:That's Yes.
Speaker 3:Would be throwing the king of cards signed by all of us and a piece of tie that we like my card.
Speaker 2:That amazing
Speaker 3:every every week I will give away
Speaker 1:one. That's fabulous. Well, I want to thank everyone for listening.
Speaker 2:Can I just jump in here real quick? This wasn't on my bingo card when I first opened the store that at some point I would be able to have a podcast. With Jeff Garlin.
Speaker 1:So freaking cool.
Speaker 2:This is so awesome. We're gonna have so much fun.
Speaker 3:We're already having fun. Yes But the thing I want to say is it's my honor.
Speaker 2:Really? That means a lot, man. Thank you. And on that note, Sammy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we would just want to thank everyone for listening, and this has been super fun, and we're gonna have a lot more on the way with a lot of cool guests. And thank you.
Speaker 2:Card father out.