Welcome to Season 3 of the Geeked out Collecting Podcast :)
For this episode I brought on Jay from Noscotchtape. I wanted him on because I love his collection - he has a great mix English and amazing Japanese cards. He's also into collecting Legends Star Wars comics like myself so we absolutely nerd out! Anyways, we talk about a number of things including the current state of the hobby as we see it, collecting and speculating. I hope you enjoy ;)
At Geeked Out Collecting podcast we apply financial and investing principles to our hobby collecting - from trading card games like Pokemon and Magic the Gathering to Comic books and Funko Pops, we do it all. The goal is to turn dusty hobby collections into profitable nest eggs.
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hello hello
welcome everyone
hey jay hey how are you i'm doing good how are
you good good good that's good that's good awesome
let me make sure really quick that
we've got all the streams going
and cool awesome well hey you know i really
appreciate you being on today um because we've had
you know a few conversations on um instagram
and honestly some of the takes that you put on
your story have been really entertaining
i definitely agree with a lot of them
yeah which is why i wanted to bring you on because
i felt like your perspective would be really
interesting so first off i guess what i wanted
to do for everyone who isn't uh you know aware
of you or maybe you know know you from instagram
but if you could really quickly just kind of give
us a little bit about you when how you are as a
collector what you collect then we can get started
uh okay so uh first off thank you for having me on
the show um i really appreciate it and um actually
i i think i i'd so i uh travel out my car a lot
and um i've discovered your podcast uh i think i'm
on one road trip and like time just seemed to fly
by whenever i listened to it just because you know
it had all this useful information um so thank you
again i really appreciate being on the show um and
in terms of myself again as you said before my
name is jay uh to those of you who are listening
um and i've i have my ig is uh no scotch tape
uh i they could see that right on the on the
screen yeah they they should be able to see your
handle right there so my ig is no scotch tape and
i've been collecting for quite a while i think
in the mid 90s uh and in terms of collecting
i've collected quite a bit of sort of every
other category um i started out back then in
mainly sports cards and then over the past few
years um video games uh pokemon cards yu-gi-oh
um comics which has been a big thing of mine
over the past couple months uh and then um
i think i think that about because
of it oh yeah and uh some toy figures
um so in terms of my background i have um that's
the collecting background professionally i uh
work in finance uh within the bay area in
california um so yeah as you said before
a lot of the things that you had seen on my
page um i just sort of you know i've saw that
big boom over the past year or so and being a
collector first and foremost and also someone who
who has seen sort of the finance side of
things it was interesting just because you have
i guess so many different uh factors playing into
the year that was 2020 for the collecting side
so yeah that's just a brief intro um about myself
um i love pokemon uh i love like a lot of like uh
really niche items um as you've probably seen
like for my ige so yeah i yeah that's pretty
much it that's awesome yeah i mean that's really
awesome i like how you started with sports cards
in the 90s when it was kind of like the worst time
to collect sports cards in the 90s um that that's
really cool were you only collecting like baseball
or or basketball or football it was kind of
uh just a mixture i remember like getting packs
with my brother and my dad at uh like the local
walmart and there would be like rows and rows of
or uh sort of peggings of like sports card packs
and then um i think as that started it down down
in like the mid 2000s i sort of phased out of
that and sort of you know focus on pokemon
and yu-gi-oh um and so yeah it was it was
it was i think it was more of the the thrill of
opening packs rather than what it is today of
like oh let's keep them sealed let's let's spec on
them um let's sort of quote unquote invest in it
uh so yeah it's definitely about time a lot of
junk backs i still have actually i was on a road
trip uh this past week because i was having my
parents move out here and i was actually able to
get like uh look through my old things in my room
and we have like tons and tons of 90s sports cards
i'm like sorting through right now and i'm like
wow you know it definitely lends a perspective on
on back then to today um which is is always
interesting when you look at it in the long term
yeah yeah absolutely do you think um you know
because you remember collecting around that time
does a little bit of modern remind you
of that time where we see so many so
much printing so much reprinting and now with
these new sets i think because they have more
printers now that that the print sizes will
be even bigger than what they were before
i think um um so uh when i was hoping
my parents move this is actually an
interesting question because when i saw
my parents move we drove all the way from
the south uh through texas through arizona
and i was thinking about that because
the modern day sports card uh environment it's
like the perfect storm because you literally have
uh hundreds of thousands of people unfortunately
losing their jobs in 2020 you have um i would
say influencers sort of speaking about
it on youtube or their other mediums
and then you have uh sort of this this this fear
of you know how are we going to produce income
and then that's when sports cards sort of and
pokemon and other collectibles starts to take
the forefront um in terms of today i think it's
much different because the power of social media
because you can like like obviously back then
there was dial up internet you know yeah you
lost your internet connection but now today it's
like uh at the tweet or whatever the price of
a card can go up or down uh astronomically or
exponentially um and so today i think there's
there's a lot more uh focus and attention on
collectibles in general which is a good thing
um but in terms of today compared to 90s sports
cards i think it's a little bit different
just because you have that role of social media
um you have that role of you know there there is
a demand uh of it but i think the main question
is whether or not that demand holds you know yeah
yeah that that's something that i've talked to a
number of people about and so i know everyone has
a little bit of differing opinions just because
you know like what what years we've said with
covid it's kind of um triggered a you know a chain
reaction of things where people are losing their
jobs losing their homes you know very unfortunate
things and so with the secondary market and people
you know kind of inserting themselves in between
you know like the primary customer and the brand
or you know the retail product you know
kind of inserting themselves in between
and you know us seeing those prices go up and now
even seeing those prices on um sealed product go
up even on the distributor's side now i mean
there's there's new msrps that are kind of
hitting the market now because you know everywhere
down the chain the price is kind of starting to
go up so it's been really interesting to
watch all of that just happen in real time
really is is what we're seeing um and it's really
interesting too and really not surprising what
we're seeing right now with the market um
and and the activity the the the activity
level right now would you say that right now
we're in a little bit of a bearish market
i would feel uh that that is the case
based off of what i've seen um i think
and it's funny because you know i i work uh remote
right now and for the past year actually since the
pandemic started and so sometimes i'll have like
alpha investments like playing in the background
or like bakery or uh or um sweets game world like
playing a background i'll always get their takes
and i feel like like it's it's when you're paying
like four hundred dollars for a psa 10 bowl bowl
rookie uh for basketball um i feel like that's a
little bit of bubble um in its sense so there's
all these little bubbles over the past year but
i think overall we're entering a bearish market
just because i'm not going to repeat like what
other youtubers have said we're we're going into
almost the end of the pandemic hopefully a
lot of people they need that disposable that
disposable income um they're going to turn to
their collectibles that they saw as more of a
spec rather than they would truly love it and
like if you'd rather have a card or food on
the table they're going to choose obviously so i
think in some respects we are in a bearish market
but in terms of like how how long that will last
i'm not sure um like if i if i could say that just
because i didn't predict 20 how 2020 would end
up in terms of collectibles um but i feel like
like the true collectible items will always hold
long-term value um and they'll experience a dip
now but in the long term it's it's kind of like
the s p 500 it will generally go up over time
which is you know i don't think a lot of people
can see that or have that ability to zoom out and
see that perspective yeah yeah absolutely and and
i i definitely agree with you i think collectibles
have the opportunity to grow over time 100
percent you know especially as you know younger
generations age up and then they start to have
incomes just what happened with our generation
you know we've kind of driven the market to go
up um in a lot of the sense because now we're
able to afford the things that we couldn't when
we were kids yeah so that totally makes sense
the one thing that kind of worries me and
i don't know whether you agree or disagree
um you know but i love your perspective on it
uh one of the things that kind of worries me
and and of course it's hard to do it's hard
to find like the cap on a particular item like
for a particular card for example right um so
you know finding where you might be overpaying
versus like underpaying for something
because you know of course you don't want to
you know especially with some of the prices last
year i mean a lot of slabs are only going to get
so high over time you know and so if you you know
if people buy too high like for example i mean i
did that before i mean i've done that i've done
that so so you know learning from those mistakes
and in trying to be you know and read the market
in a more full way so that you don't get caught in
those kinds of situations i i feel like a lot of
people with fomo and with you know following these
trends they kind of get themselves caught in these
situations where they may not actually roi or even
break even on items you know yeah that's that's
actually a big discussion point um just because
uh i've i've actually uh i was out with friends
yesterday we watched the uh the oakland a's versus
uh giants game uh down in uh san francisco
and they were talking about the housing market
and they're saying how obviously this real estate
is is stable but a lot of people are overpaying
on homes um and i feel like that's the
same thing where like if we look at the
collectibles market in 2020 um a lot of people
were overpaying because they were buying into this
emotion of you know fomo fear missing out
and so that's a dangerous game because
when you like 2020 was an emotional year for a
majority of the world um and so when you have a
motion and then you also have like money that's
a that's a bad thing you know um so when uh
when you're talking about like oh i'm trying to
find out like am i overpaying for something or
am i underpaying usually what i do is i look at
um the auction prices uh for that specific item
because unless like it's unless there's like
a fraudulent activity like shield bidding
auction prices usually tell like the
best uh demand true demand for an item um
and overall though like i'll i'll also look at
populations like psa populations for a card or
i think just in general their rarity like how
hard it is to pull um the specific condition
of the card like if it's a psa 5 compared to
a psa 10 um like i i feel like anything that's
like for a specific example any current pokemon
set um i'm sort of unless i truly love the card
i'll hold off on purchasing um just because you
know you don't know whether or not that psa flood
uh it's gonna like it's i think i think
it's slowly being released right now
but you don't know whether or not like somebody's
just gonna dump all their inventory on on ebay
or another marketplace um so it's it's just a
matter of taking all those factors into account
um you know the auction prices uh was it just
based off of the tweet that some influencer
uh tweeted out um just a couple of things
yeah i i couldn't agree more because i mean
you know one thing that you mentioned that
that stands out to me is that psa flood
and and what's funny about that is that psa isn't
the only one that's going to flood the market cdc
as well i mean um i i believe squeaks uh was the
one that mentioned that the reason why we saw that
kind of drop you know in november uh for for some
sectors of the market uh last year was because
cgc card started hitting the market and i know
that there are collectors out there that are just
sitting on hundreds of slabs that they that they
literally don't even have time to put up on ebay
it would be on ebay but but they just haven't had
time to put those slabs up so you know it's it's
definitely coming and i mean not to mention bgs
as well i you know i don't know how much of their
um you know how much tcg wise was actually sent
to bgs versus like sports and stuff like that but
but yeah i mean i mean in my opinion you know
slabs and single cards are crazy risky right now
yeah that's the thing because um i see a lot
too on a lot of i follow a lot of ig accounts um
and you could tell like they're
solely they're either doing like a a
raffle um where they're dumping off their
first edition psa six or seven or eight cards
um you rarely see like a psa 10
unless it's like in a high raffle
but it's it's like monitoring that little market
it's sort of interesting because sooner or later
um everything's gonna be graded
and so the only thing that's
valuable is um psa 10 cars are basically nine
cards depending on a and then obviously if if uh
if it's like an extremely old card then obviously
if it's just graded psa one two to eight like
it'll hold value um so yeah i definitely agree
there's there's definitely a flood but i feel like
i feel like we're not going to receive it in
like a massive like unleashing of a gate i
feel like it's already occurring but it's like
a slow like uh but you just turn the faucet on
you know and it's running um and it's just slowly
getting eaten up by the market but sooner or
later like uh i'm probably gonna throw out so many
analogies at you uh just let you know i have like
on analogies but sooner or later like the
sink's starting to get like slowly rise
with all those psa cards and graded cards
um and all the other i guess other grading
card companies that have appeared within the
past like six months which is really funny
yeah yeah yeah um you know you've said and kind
of alluded to uh so so i have a question for you
and you've kind of alluded to the answer already
but i was wondering if you could um you know just
give us your opinion on it but but with the
risk that's coming with you know slab cards
and and investing in those cards or collecting in
those cards what do collectors have to do in order
to mitigate that risk so that they can hopefully
you know grow their collection in the future
what do new collectors have to do in terms of like
collecting slabs in particular yeah yeah just uh
you know what what should they do to mitigate
their risk if they want to collect the things
that they want but also they want to make
sure that they see that growth over time
um i feel like uh you have to take into account
i saw it somewhere where you have to take into
account obviously the the rarity of the card
which is number one the condition of the card
um and know that uh even way before that you have
to set sort of a goals like write it down on terms
of like what card do you want to collect what
set do you want to collect um and then what's
your overarching goal if your overarching goal
is i like pikachu and i want to collect say for
example uh mind if i pull out one of the cards
hell yeah um you know if we're gonna do like a
demo of this but like one of my favorite cards uh
that i was glad i was able to pick up before 2020
was uh if you see it the oh can you even see that
uh yeah yeah oh this is the scream pikachu yeah um
but like such a good guy yeah i knew that i loved
this card um i picked it up it was well worth it
obviously the practice skyrocketed but you have
to set that end goal because with the amount of
cards that are out there for pokemon or any other
genre and the amount of sets that are released
almost every for pokemon it's every quarter
for sports cards it's almost like every two
three weeks uh i'd say um you have to set that end
goal because if you don't what you're end up gonna
what's end up gonna be happening is you're gonna
go in all these different directions so number one
set a goal of you know what do you want to
collect because what i see is a lot of like uh new
collectors i don't know if they're even collectors
or not or if they're like going to a retail store
and like just wanting to flip but they're going
out and they're just trying to buy everything
which is like the wrong thing to do you have to
mainly treat it as as sort of um an extension of
yourself um if your own goal is to make money off
of it like but that's fine uh but if you want to
sort of build something over the long term
which all collections all great collections are
um you really have to set those goals and of
what set and what cards you want to collect
that's the important thing prices will come later
but the end goal of where you're trying to get
to that's the most important yeah i couldn't i
couldn't agree more with you because especially
if you do have a little bit of disposable income
um and and i've fallen this into this as well when
i first started getting back into collecting
and like having all of this adult money and
not knowing what to do with it with you know with
these cards and these collectibles just in general
but you know sometimes you can really fall into um
you know like um just you know spontaneous buying
yeah yeah and you're just like i gotta get
it right now um you know you know because
that's that's trouble for me oh oh yeah
oh yeah absolutely i mean if you can find
if you could find boxes there i mean definitely
easier a few years ago like i remember seeing
hidden fates everywhere sun and moon everywhere
you know steam siege uh all of those sets and
now you can't freaking find them anywhere yeah
i remember like when i first um like moved into
the the bay area like there would be like hidden
fates like tins or the super premium quasi-figure
on the shelf and i'm just like oh that that's
kind of cool and all that yeah i'd like slowly
start to collect the the set and then i think
about four months five months later it was like
it's gone like a barren shelf you know
oh yeah i remember you know the stuff
was sitting on the shelf not moving not going
anywhere and target was putting [ __ ] on sale
you know 34.99 i think i got my sun and
moon uh etb for 34.99 or 24.99 and now
the thing is up to like a hundred and twenty or
something i can't remember it's been a few weeks
since i've looked down i remember the shining
legends etb was 34.99 at target and i remember
i placed an order for three of them and i was like
it it's probably one of the most underrated sets
i was like why it's like it was like sitting
on the shelf at target whatever and uh like
collecting dust yeah now it's like uh probably one
of the the uh best sets to to get at the moment
yeah it it's so crazy because you know even for
me even someone who's not really into modern
cards not that they're not cool not that they're
not awesome i mean i think they've done a lot of
very impressive things when it comes to the design
and the texture of the cards you know i love it i
think it's really cool i just i just don't have
that heart behind it because you know these um
you know the i didn't play these games i didn't
grow up with these pokemon so they're kind of
not very interesting to me but but even still
i honestly got really lucky with that because
i'm like okay well it's on sale i can buy one and
it won't hurt me come on it's 35 dollars let's go
you know it won't hurt me you know i don't
have them with the lawn anymore to fund my
my cards and all that um but yeah i mean those
were the good old days late 2019 i was right
before it picked up and then 2020 happened and uh
almost it was like a gold rush you know seriously
oh my gosh totally i mean i i feel like like i
was at target uh last week and there was like uh
you know chilling rain was on the shelf
which seems to be the the flavor of the day
there's like a new flavor of the month uh for
pokemon now um it was battle styles now chilly
rain now evolving skies and it's kind of funny
with with that whole battle styles chilling rain
effect on modern pokemon cards you know how like
you could find those on the shelf just because of
of the management of of people uh there's
like they can't keep up it's like uh that
show i don't know if you've seen that clip i love
lucy where she's trying to do the cupcake stuff
and then the factory yeah yeah
the cupcake that famous clip
there's like a new set every every week or every
month and like people who are either collectors or
they're they're scalpers they can't
like they can't control it all and
it's just gonna end in chaos you know and that's
why i've stayed away from yu-gi-oh because i i
never really watched this show never really got
into it but knowing how often those sets come out
holy crap and then knowing which ones to put money
behind and knowing which cards to put money behind
and keeping up with that i know people people
have warned me against uh yu-gi-oh i'm sure it's
fun and and hey if you collect you yo go you
but i'm not ready to put in all that work yeah
i i think i don't collect yu-gi-oh as much as
i did before um just because like that's just
a personal thing i immediately have the cards
and collect the cards from when i was younger
um but yeah the amount of reprints that they
have in the sets and then i guess the game has
changed so much since i last played um it was
just i can't keep up with everything you know
but but yeah it's it's it's to teach their own oh
yeah oh yeah agreed i'm not about to i've always
been the kind of person i'm not about to tell
anyone like oh you're collecting wrong i mean
maybe they're overspending on their collection you
know but what people collect is their business so
so that definitely for sure but um so we we've
already covered a lot of really great topics um
are there other things you're kind of seeing in
the market that you that you find interesting
that you find shocking um unexpected that
you think people should be aware about
that's that's like the the loaded question of
my weekend um no i i definitely feel like um
like we've already touched about the bear market
people are wanting to sell um and i'm it's
actually funny that you mentioned that because
i'm planning on attending two shows in the area
uh two car shows mainly sports and pokemon because
i i'm not looking to buy but mainly looking to see
how many people are actually selling you know
dumping because that's a big market um but in
terms of that i feel like i feel like as predicted
uh there is going to be sort of a lag in people
um sort of paying exorbitant prices for items but
still like things that that are rare that hold
value that have high demand they are going to hold
and i get that a lot of people have lost money
on like say for example uh i heard about like
uh somebody paying a lot of money on a mj rookie
michael jordan and then it takes in value or
like a lebron james rookie and it takes the value
over time a lot of people what will help you
is you have to realize the long-term picture um
you know yeah if if you've lost all that value in
purchasing the card to where uh its value today
um that hurts but it's ultimately sort of like
a small dip within a large time frame um so yeah
that's number one we're in a bearish market but
number two uh sort of you have to strategize on on
what to do in in that sense um basically you know
sort of i guess trimming your collection um that's
always a good thing your collection isn't always
uh static you know it can be dynamic based off of
you know how you feel about a certain item and
all that make it can be hard to let go of things
uh but i've found that it's it's like it's an
extension of yourself your collection which is
uh the most important thing you know because if
you don't like something you're if you're holding
on to something just because uh an influencer
said oh it may or may not i love this it may or
may not go up in value i don't i don't know well
then you know maybe put that into something else
and i think one big factor is if if you have
an item that you paid a lot of money for and
then you're debating on whether or not to sell
it uh just ask yourself if you had the money
from that sale right now would you buy that
item uh for that price or would you put it into
something else that's like the one of the big
questions um because i i think a lot of people
wouldn't keep most of the stuff they have uh
insert that they picked up over the past past year
which is kind of frightening over the
amount of graded cards and sealed items
there are but it's also you know you have to you
have to ask like the big big picture questions
because a lot of people are reacting to really
small small uh small uh chain of events so to
speak agreed agreed um yeah honestly in in and for
me i can't even think or manage on a short term i
mean there's just too many moving pieces you know
like like for me personally i don't think i could
be like a flipper flipper where they're just
short-term gain short-term game structure game
you know here here or there like i don't think i
can handle the stress it feels like day trading
it sounds like day trading to me and and yeah and
i mean in all honesty you know i just don't think
it's it's worth it like you know for me when i
buy stuff i really cannot buy to speculate yeah
i will consider speculation but at the end
of the day it still has to be something that
i actually want that i actually care about i
i i can't i don't know i don't know if you're
that kind of collector as well or not but um
like for me i have to have something behind it
yeah i feel like um there's some things where i
buy it and it has no value whatsoever to anybody
else um like there's there's a show on my page
um that i like i'll post every once in a while
it's called uh i don't know if you've seen
it metabots um it's like this really really
old show back in the early 2000s and like i have
like uh the sealed video games on gameboy advance
oh yeah i saw those i nearly have like the
completes let me see uh i don't think i have it
with me um or out in front of me but like the seal
like four inch figures whatever like stuff oh yeah
nice they probably don't have any value to any of
the the wider community uh in terms of the hobby
but uh just to me like that that show has value to
me just because uh like like i i grew up like it's
probably one of the greatest animes of all time
in my opinion um but everybody else feels that way
which is fine um but i don't i don't really like
i all spec on a few things um but i don't take
it to the extreme that i see a lot of people uh
do like like oh i wouldn't want to say spec what
i'll say is i'll collect something uh and i have
this this theory that you know it's going to be
very hard to find or very uh in demand in in the
future and that's that's how i always see things
i try to look for things that are undervalued um
just because obviously nobody wants to pay over
price for an item um and nobody wants to pay like
at the the prices that are being quoted on ebay
oh yeah so i'll look at a few things but i
won't spec heavily on like everything that i own
because most of what i own is like
i'm taking it with me to the grave
um oh yeah yeah but uh in terms of specking
like it i don't look down upon it like that's
that's been the norm in the hobby for quite a
while and that's that's another piece too a lot
of people say oh like cards aren't about prices
cards aren't about um it's about playing the game
and i i definitely understand that uh i i've i
play the tcg online and all that but like when you
when people when people say oh it's it's not
about card values and all that it's uh like you
have to be realistic with your audience and
you have to be realistic with yourself like
yeah some of the stuff i'll i have do have
value um and it's it's okay to talk about
prices and yeah i but i won't expect to
like pump and dump that's that's that's uh
yeah yeah i i can definitely relate to that i
think i think i'm the same way um as a collector
um you know just because that that's not
what we're in it for i mean now it's okay if
someone is in it for that i mean like you know
can't stop people doing what they're doing so
you know it is what it is but what i really
like so what i really love about your collection
first off you have an amazing vintage japanese
collection in my opinion i love all of those
tops on cards all of those really cool hollow
foils and and and honestly i wish i was able
to get a hold of more before the pandemic i do
have some i don't have any tops on uh but i do
have some of the the bond the the bondi cards but
but what i also really love about your collection
as well that i i have too are all of the um
independent star wars legends comics yeah
i love those though um so that's actually funny
because uh i started collecting them and i
i don't mean offense to anyone who's listening
the main offense to to you yourself but um
another big thing that i love is uh like film
um and so when i watched the rise of skywalker
and the last jedi with my parents i don't think i
felt more offended at like the plot and like the
the direction and like the like everything so
i think out of like and this is actually this
has actually been a goal from uh way back when
i was like in high school i've always loved the
star wars universe but i love the dark horse
uh star wars comics just because and and i
hopefully will reach a point where i can talk
about this on on today's show was like there's
uh obviously there there's been like a pent up
demand for it just because people are speccing
on the star wars star wars comics i don't really
spec on comics just because i feel like they have
an added value and that you can actually read them
you can actually like get lost in those stories um
and yeah i i absolutely adore the dark horse one
of my goals right now is to collect every series
of the dark horse star wars comics um which is
a difficult feat with how many there were how
many series yeah when i started reading some of
the stories it's like yeah why didn't disney had
all this all this great creative creative uh uh
creative arcs and creative stories and they just
they kind of pick up pick up to use it in their
in their uh that last trilogy that they they had
yeah i don't know
that's the little side
that's kind of why i brought it
up because i really do love star
wars um i definitely have head canon
the new trilogy does not exist to me
like i didn't enjoy a single one of the movies
uh for one reason or another not a fan of them
or a fan of some of the characters
though don't get me wrong but um
not of the fan of the of the direction um but i
i do i'm the same way i love collecting the dark
horse comics you know i haven't been keeping up
with the speculation on those comics so actually
i might at some point look to see what i have i i
don't have that many keys um but but um you know
maybe maybe i'll get luckier they're here too it
but they're just really nice like i try to collect
a lot of the um like i've been trying to find
some of the key appearances like for reven for
malik you know you've got to get like darth
maul yeah yeah yeah you know get from that
era um get uh quillin vos i i love quinlan boss
he's such a cool one so i tried to pick up his
comics yeah um i've been trying to collect some of
the caden uh kanan last padawan um and then also
uh clone wars because i love the
show that was such a good show
um it was so great it actually watching that show
ruined um in the anakin character in the prequels
because it was it was such a fleshed out anakin
that i couldn't go you know like like i didn't
mind anakin before and then i watched clone wars
and i'm like oh my god this anakin is awesome
yeah i mean i know those are all hot takes but
yeah they they had like um this is now a star
wars podcast um private hardware is listening
it's now no but uh yeah i mean i i could talk
for like three hours or countless hours on
they had the material like they lit and for
those of you who have not watched it sorry to
spoil it but they had the material like like of
of anakin he's torn from his mother um you know
his mother dies uh and like that leads him towards
the dark side but they had like all the pieces
it's just the the direction and
then ultimately the end um i just
wow i can't even speak about the the prequels
or or the news it's just [ __ ] yeah yeah
it's it's it's funny it's funny because my cousins
they make fun of me because well first off i will
say my cousins aren't like star wars fans like
i am i've liked it ever since i was like four
they got into it as they got older and like
star wars became more mainstream but they only
star they call me a boomer because the only
things i enjoy are like the originals um
but and so they're like ah you don't like
anything that's new and and i said well hold
up timeout that's not true because i liked
rebels that was very good i liked clone wars
y'all won't watch that because it's cartoons so
tell me tell me tell me how i'm a boomer you know
like i loved it i i didn't care too much uh for
mandalorian um personally just because i thought
oh man people are gonna hate me for this uh i
thought uh the mandalorian character was very
like boring i just i just thought it was
incredibly boring there were some very interesting
moments you know uh when you saw um boba like
when oh spoilers when boba made his appearance
spoilers but but um you know i i don't know
i don't know i i don't know the mandalorian
for its simplicity compared to like the rise
of skywalker where it's literally like a new
scene every every minute new scene every
five minutes you know so i i definitely i
definitely uh enjoyed it for the simplicity of
the whole plot development and all that so um
yeah i mean honestly they did a lot of good
things i i mean you know it's not something
that i can completely trash because there were a
lot of good things uh enjoyable things you know
to it um really curious so with the so with the
dark horse comics which is your favorite series
uh i'd have to say
i would say twice the the twilight with quinlan
boss oh okay i haven't read it but yeah let's
i don't have number one because it's so
expensive in my opinion um but i've read
like two to four of that miniseries but i think
um the knights of the old republic is probably
probably my favorite i just got heir to the empire
uh the complete set um which is probably like one
of the biggest keys because it has like thrawn
and margie oh yeah okay that'll be a good one but
yeah like that's the old republic like i uh grew
up reading some of those stories and like like
watching like uh or playing uh star wars knights
of the old republic on xbox mm-hmm kotor swore
um but yeah like uh that's a little old republic
is probably one of my favorites uh tied it with
uh twilight and uh i actually wanna it leads me
to another thing i wish pokemon would do the same
with their anime series you know you have great
characters but it's still ash um going through
the series and then team rocket spoils like an
episode and then it's like just repeats uh and so
i think i posted it like a while back like i wish
they had a mini series on sabrina or a miniseries
or like brock like taking care of his family and
all that like i feel like that it there's like
so much potential that's untapped um so but just
don't make it like the star wars prequels or the
yeah yeah i mean the one thing i really love
about those brands and i think probably one of the
reasons why we really like them is because they
feel so lived in those worlds feel so you know
real so i mean for all the criticisms that we can
give the prequels which i'd probably agree with
uh one of the great things that george lucas
did do was really grow that universe i mean
you could just picture so much within that
universe and especially too with seeing you
know the final season of clone wars and you
could actually go to um oh my god coruscant
and kind of see the underbelly of that like i
want to see those other really interesting stories
um and so and so taking that back to pokemon
gosh there are so many like trainers that
everyone loves like sabrina top one you know
giovanni top one misty i mean koga all of them
they're so they're they're so interesting and
i'm sure that they have uh really interesting
stories to tell because we've we've seen them and
we we we've experienced those characters in a lot
of different ways like you know you know many
appearances in the shows we played against them
when we were playing the games we collected the
cards um i think there's absolutely opportunity um
it's just a thought so if pokemon is listening
right now please please for the 25th anniversary
uh just create another show just any of those you
know yeah yeah i'm with you on that you know what
i need to do is and i i saved them all to my list
i just haven't watched them yet um but you know
on netflix with all the pokemon anime shows i
just need to watch them i just it's been so long
and there's so many that i probably didn't watch
when i was a kid so i need to i need to get on it
i could say the same just because there's
like i don't know how many episodes i feel
like there's over 500 now um more than that uh
but yeah it's it's just the from the episodes
that i have watched that are like the recent ones
it's always the same concept over and over again
it gets kind of stale after
a while for for me personally
obviously it's made for children but like to add
that more element because uh i feel like a lot of
the concepts that that are more uh adultish like
brock taking care of all his family members like
i feel like definitely feel like kids understand
that like especially the ten nine years old age
yeah you know i don't i don't think that pokemon
slash nintendo would ever do this but i would find
it to be really interesting if they made content
or like a piece of content like some kind of show
where was actually geared towards the older
audience i don't want to say adult you know
because like that that might be too far too far
that way for them but you know just something
maybe catered more towards two um that that would
be really interesting to see well i doubt that
they would do it like let's be real but but i
don't know i think i think it would be really
interesting to see that kind of content just
because you know i mean we're such a big market
even though you know like it's made for children
like i already see it like it's a pokemon pikachu
detective pikachu show whatever but it's
like the like like it's really gritty and
it premieres on like adult swim or something
like that oh that would be so cool i love
that yeah it would be like a continuation
of the show ryan reynolds would be still
yeah man i'm buzzing with ideas right now
you know i'm not gonna lie i haven't seen
the protective pikachu i haven't i know i
know i know don't kill me in the comments
yeah it's a great movie i i feel uh yeah i enjoyed
it when i saw it you know i still got the promos
you know when they oh nice yeah i remember
seeing the detected uh pikachu uh promos the
the big uh you know those sealed boxes i mean
they weren't actually boxes there was those
those big rectangular displays um but i
remember seeing a whole bunch of those at target
you know detective pikachu always seemed
to me kind of like a silly kids movie so in
your opinion it wasn't like a silly little
kid's movie was still enjoyable for adults
yeah well i it was it was because i went
with a friend and then uh when we went
there's like a bunch of kids watching it i
was like oh i guess we're the only ones here
but i mean like i i had uh you know i'd played
the game when when i was younger and it was it
was like it was just enjoyable like i knew it was
for kids and i feel like that um and it also had
its funny parts too but i feel like having that
expectation of oh it's you know they probably
made this for kids treated as such that made it
enjoyable because my expectation you know somebody
else will probably say oh the plot doesn't make
sense so this doesn't make sense where like i
saw he's like oh it's enjoyment just enjoy it and
i did right they took me back uh i loved how they
created this this whole little live action world
for pokemon which is really really really clever
yeah i think i think the live action part of it
is is really interesting i'm curious to see if
they'll continue upon that aren't they doing a
detective pikachu too i'm am i i hope so i feel
like it's in development but then obviously
kobe happened so all movies are pushed back
but yeah i feel like it they they should have
another live-action movie um there's literally
you could you could go the sky's the limit for the
franchise um as can be seen from the past 25 years
but i feel like there's like there's always that
that uh that extra step that they can always take
which means even higher oh for sure for sure
no doubt um yeah and and you know as far as
so as far as your collection goes let's go back to
your collection because i you have like a lot of
really cool [ __ ] you've collected a lot of cool
stuff throughout the years i mean anyone everyone
okay go follow him and then look at his cards
because they're so cool but you know i guess uh
so so this is up to you how you want to answer
this question um either what is your like most
valuable card in your collection or your most
cherished card either one or both if you'd like
oh my god this is like the hot seat um let's
see the most cherished card i have that is tough
i'll i'll circle back to that um dang
i'm trying to look there's church card let me see
uh i think i think the most valuable one and i'll
i'll show it right now um let's see if i have
it on here the most valuable one i have is uh
you were talking about the bandai card ass
uh so this is one that i picked up way back
um this is the charizard the psa 10. can you
even say that god such a good pickup yeah
that was funny because when i first found out
about the set um like i saw the art and i was
like this art is absolutely amazing you know
for those of you who are listening the 1997
bandai kardas was a set that was designed
exclusively by ken tsujimori which is
synonymous with pokemon um he's a brilliant artist
uh so there's the psa i'm sorry i haven't
done this with a camera but this is the psa 10
charizard and there's a route i think there's
the pop hasn't changed it's 55 in the world
but when i saw this card and i saw that it was
available for pickup i purchased it and then
2020 happened and then it just skyrocketed
so this is probably my most valuable card
um in my collection to date uh and then
probably the most cherished card i have is
huh i think i think one that if mind if i
pull it real quick of course um where is it
so the most cherished card i have is probably this
one um it's not worth much but i i still enjoy
it it is the uh 2001 tops uh ichiro suzuki card
if you can see oh okay yeah that's awesome um
and just growing up uh back when he
was playing like in the early 2000s um
like like uh so i'm asian america identify as
asian american and so seeing him play baseball
in the us was like like it was it was insane um
just because like he saw the skill he had playing
for the mariners then through the other teams so
this is probably one of my biggest cherished cards
um just because of what he did for the sport what
he did for a representation um and yeah like even
though it's a psa seven i don't see it it's the
first one first rookie card of his that i ever got
um it's a beautiful card yeah so so
yeah it's uh it's iconic and uh yeah
i mean it's it's and that lends to back to
sort of what we had before discussion on uh
you know collecting what you want collecting
what you what you appreciate um that will you
know bring you more utility in the long run so
yeah but yeah these are just uh some there's like
uh to the left from of me or the right of me um
i've like quite a few cards so yeah those are the
other ones yeah do you have a full set of the 97
card ass uh i do i do uh hey i remember purchasing
it back in the day for like ninety dollars um it
was like a minor chapter you see me roll my eyes
yeah i mean the art is it's definitely
underappreciated especially the promo
cards uh where it has like ash and then
there's three starters or all that yeah
him back to back with gary i i wish they created
more uh arts similar to that simplistic yet
it it definitely tells the story i love
the ones with psyduck i love the snorlax
getting his uh dream of chicken eaten by gengar
that's probably one of my favorites from the set
but yeah yeah i have a complete set and you
and you also have some other uh japanese
cards that i've actually not really seen so um
like i've got your instagram pulled up the moltres
for i guess it's i guess you put right here topson
hollow set i've never seen those cards before
um did that come out when did that come out let
me see so i'm not the greatest on uh the history
behind top sun but i i i've done like quite a bit
of research and so the top sun for those who don't
know it it comes with a blue back uh blue back
with no number uh let me see if i can pull one up
i don't know for press for time um here's
one uh i'm actually looking at the sorry if
if i'm doing this but i was actually looking at
the pwcc auction uh just now because they have
some top sun cards on there but oh yeah uh so
this is a blue back gyarados ps810 um dude so
you can see the glare sorry about that but yes
so it's a blue back because it has a blue back
and so the these were technically the second
print um and if you can tell right here here's
the i can't even do that the the yeah so the blue
back no numbers were technically the first print
uh the regular blue backs for the second print and
then the green backs for the third print um and
so they in the cases or in the packs of these
uh they also have the hollow cards which are
what i recently discovered were like uh
variations on the holo prisms like there's or
blocked ice um but yeah like i collect these as
well i'm terrible at putting it on the camera
uh there's the dragonite and a lot of the
art you can tell it's like vintage japanese
um and yeah i've i started collecting them just
because i love the history behind something um
and these cards have history just because
you can only pull them from gum packs um
back in japan when pokemon was first released or
initially released and that was that's actually
that was actually a big talking point um i think
a month ago because sm pratt had made a video
saying that they were it's unverified that whether
or not they were the first cards um yeah and
i did i didn't really care um just because i i
like the cards um whether or not they're they're
the first printing or not um it's just the history
behind them it's like it reminds me of like the
old baseball cards uh where you can only get them
in gun packs or like the honest wagner was like
cigarette cigarettes you can get them out yeah
yeah um yeah that very first uh what is it
18 did it come on 1885 allen ginter the
very first baseball card that came up
yeah or or trading cards yeah do you
watch that show loki on disney plus
so i don't know if you saw that but when he
was looking at the uh hopefully i don't give
anything away but this probably isn't a major plot
point but when he's looking at the infinity stones
um oh in the drawer yeah in the drawer it's an
easter egg there's an honest wagner card in there
and my friend told me about that yesterday and
i was like i was like what and it's like yeah
it's just it was hilarious when i saw that um
because it was like oh okay that's pretty cool
yeah that that show is so funny i i just caught
up uh over the weekend i just started watching it
on saturday uh god that show is so hilarious
but i didn't notice that i didn't notice the
hoeness wagner was in there crap geez the
tba has got all the valuable [ __ ] you know
green soul stones and and you know all that just
sitting there in a drawer dang that's awesome
yeah but yeah uh yeah i'm not the the
best at the the top sunset in terms of
knowing the history behind it um but yeah
i just i love i love the history behind
some of the cards the early japanese
cards um i really appreciate that
um really this is sort of a random
question not really but did you ever buy
any of the strix haven boxes for those alternate
japanese cards that so um i tend to dabble
in magic the gathering not in playing because i'm
definitely not as gifted as some of the players
out there i i used to play way back in the day
but now they've added all these new mechanics
um and like as i said before early in the
podcast i watch rudy a lot he's like one of
the best in terms of you could you could
pick uh the pieces you want to listen to
from him but when he did that strix haven you
know like a strict saving booster box opening
yeah and some of the arts are gorgeous like
i'm really big on aesthetics um and so like
that's one of the sets that i i've wanted to
get sort of like some collector booster boxes of
um just because they have like gorgeous arts um
regardless of the value um and that that's a big
thing uh that i i tend to do like i'll go to a
local card shop in the bay area and i'll just go
to like the singles bin and then i'll just pick
out uh mtg commons that i like the art for uh
not knowing whether or not they're where rare or
not or to spec um just because it's like it's it's
cool to just get the artwork of of uh of mtg but
stricthaven it's definitely one of those and uh
i think modern horizons had some cards that was
a recent set that came out oh modern horizon 2 is
that honorable and then um is it vi vip uh the vip
box ultimate masters yeah yeah it might have been
yeah i haven't been able to pick up any of those
collector boxes for any of those sets yeah it's
been so hard i i'm i'm a i'm a patron on rudy and
when that when that when strict saving came when
modern horizons 2 came [ __ ] left like did not
have a chance at all i was able to pick up some
some boxes and some packs at target thank god like
i i have a few here there and you know nothing
nothing crazy but i do eventually want to open
them up because i want to see what cool alternate
art i'll get yeah i love some of the arts that
are uh being done in magic the gathering yeah
it's i feel like the artwork on those cards is
probably better one of the best in any type of
tcg or ccg um i'm probably going to get like a
bunch of hate mail like hey what about this um
but yeah like hands down mtg art yeah yeah i i
couldn't agree with you more there's there's so
they did a lot of interesting stuff i mean back
in the day there were some questionable things
um you know i don't know if there's been any
controversy with with cards in recent sets but
yeah the artistry has always been top-notch i mean
i mean even the dual lands or you know the special
lands but the vintage ones and then the more
recent ones so interesting so very cool um it it's
so easy to appreciate that brings up another point
because like um this is one other idea i had was
you know the energies in pokemon have been the
same since the beginning of pokemon i get there
is like there are a few energies where i guess
there's like a silhouette of like a pokemon
like there's that uh i think i saw hoho was like
flying in the background and it was like a fire
energy or something the energies in pokemon need
to change just because it's literally the same
and i feel like there's so much potential because
they could literally have like um here's one idea
i had was uh instead of just the regular water
energy symbol it's like the squirrel squad is
like shooting water oh that'd be cute that would
be cute like you could have something from there
like and like the the gold energies or the hollow
energies they're super rare energies those are
pretty cool but having some type of art similar to
how imagine gathering does it for lands like even
the lands are beautiful in magic yeah like like
just something a little bit more because i did see
and you know it was my first exposure to it so
i don't know what sets those like gold energies
came up but but i did see that chilean rain had
some uh you know their energies were a little bit
different which is cool but but they could do more
they they could be more creative i agree with you
on that um but yeah yeah the the art i mean i mean
they've done well with the alternative alternate
arts in chilling rain um but yeah like uh i'm a
big fan of art and mtg definitely takes the cake
no doubt i mean like like i said before even
though i don't really collect the modern cards
these newer gens i don't really do that but i
mean i can't i don't have anything bad to say
when it comes to how they're designed you know
the full arts are so cool um i mean the moltres
from the um from chilling reigns is so cool
um and and and what's you know i don't know
if this is crazy hot take or not but honestly i
actually prefer the japanese version something
about that card looks just it hits different
when you see the japanese version versus the
the english version but even still the designs
are so great i mean you know the the moltres is
a card that sticks out to me a because because of
the design but b because you know i know i know
moltres like that's a great card like i have the
the you know the card s card you know from 1997.
but um but you know the other one's not so i
i'm not super you know familiar with but i mean
like as a full art actually hold up am
i reading this wrong gallerian moltres
um so are these like combos of pokemon because
i'm sieglerian articuno i don't know what glarion
means well it's gonna sound silly the region uh oh
okay the regional variant similar to how they have
i'm trying to think well
like the alolan vote vulpex
so yeah i mean um all those alternate
art cards it's so funny how like uh
people were hyped up when chilling rain was
announced and then they saw the cars released
and so everybody like scampered and now it just
sits on the shelf everybody's focused on evolving
skies mm-hmm and then they're trying to get
their pre-orders in and then celebrations was
just announced so it's just like that information
overload or i guess the book wants to overload but
yeah i i definitely love the the arts for uh for
uh chilling rain and alternate hearts um i don't
pull as many packs or open as many packs anymore
just because of how expensive it's gotten i
usually focus on singles and then try to strike at
the at the right time and in price um but uh but
yeah that those three burger cards are definitely
in my mind especially the gallerian zapdos
that the roadrunner effect was was absolutely
beautiful on that oh yeah um i i agree with you
on that uh 100 those look very cool i i feel
so silly about the gallerian fact but the gold
snorlax that's that's the the biggest one it
looks so cute it's such a cute card you know
it reminds me of the video game when you have
to you know use the flute to wake up relaxed
yeah that took me like when i was younger
it took me like a week to figure that out
i have to get the flu there's no like internet
whatever my friend told me yeah you get the flu
didn't you get the flu he's like oh oh i you
know i know they don't sell them anymore but
back in the day you know in order to progress
in a game that you've you know been stuck
at you have to spend thirty dollars on the
guide yeah the the prima strategy guide yeah
and then and then the uh what was it gamespot
and those other websites started coming out with
uh walkthroughs you know when when we started to
have internet god man we're just aging ourselves
the the next episode will be how old is uh
scotch tape um oh but uh uh it was funny
because when i was uh helping my my parents move
i actually found like a box of old magazines and
electronic gaming monthly tips and tricks um and
it was like oh this is the cheat code in sonic
uh for sega genesis and all that then um
there's actually an ad for like uh pokemon
cards from japan and there's like um sabrina's
gym deck in japanese it was like for 19.99 so
yeah it was it was crazy like they said loser
packs are like 2.99 a piece and then you have to
like cut out the thing and then pay for shipping
you know it's like mail order um yeah yeah gosh
crazy yeah you know i i know that he went through
some difficulties but um i'm curious to see if
leonhardt goes through with that project where um
you can buy he's going to make available where you
can buy i don't know if it's unlimited or going
to be first edition but a base set pack at for the
original price of 2.99 i sold that did that ever
i i heard that there is some issues with that but
what what ended up happening with that i don't
know i haven't seen anything other than the last
the most recent update where he was you know
running into some difficulties so i mean if he's
able to do that that's really cool um i don't i
don't really have that many base set packs i only
have one um shadow list so adding another one to
the collection would be really cool actually but
even if it is unlimited um yeah i could definitely
see how that could um end up being sort of uh
taking advantage of um but and also the logistics
of like how do you make sure everybody gets a fair
share true like collectors are able to get the
pack and all that because there's like i'll be
honest there's like a lot of gaming uh within the
system of the modern hobby like 2020 so yeah on it
i know too um i you know and i haven't
seen any updates for this either but his
set auctioning platform rare candy i
don't know if you're familiar with it
he was supposed to come out with that as
well um so it's like an auction platform i
i want to say that's what it was i'm
pretty sure it was a selling platform
um i don't know how similar it is to whatnot um
i haven't used whatnot i i've seen a little bit
of those streams but not quite i mean i haven't
really immersed myself into the platform yet but
um you like i heard a rare candy before i heard
of whatnot because all of a sudden what not just
you know popped up on the scene one day and
i was seeing influencers promote it but um
it'll be really interesting to see like what new
tech related stuff starts to come out now that
i mean you know like pokemon is i mean it's
always been here to stay but now people in
sort of the mainstream are kind of taking it
seriously i mean because there's been a ton
of collectors that have taken it seriously
from an investment perspective so it'll be
really interesting to see what else pops up um
to kind of compete with what's already existing
yeah i know i i've definitely heard of onenots uh
from my understanding i haven't used it personally
um but i've seen a lot of people i follow who
do um openings or packing openings on it i feel
like it's sort of like a streaming service
similar to twitch in which you're able to
sort of run these sales or raffles or or i don't
know if you can use the word raffle anymore um
that's true waffles waffles or rashes razzles
yeah professionally um yeah i i'm not sure
on the future of what in technology i know
there uh there's like sports card investor
he had that market movers or like track sales card
ladder yeah i feel like it's not really a new app
but i feel like there should be improvements
to current things like uh say for example ebay
like not um not allowing like your if
it's an item that's going to be fitted on
not allowing like uh the name or the username to
be private like that's one thing for transparency
prevent like shield bidding and all that um
that's that's one improvement i could think of
what's on my head so but in terms of like mass uh
mass improvements or mass technology changes um
i really can't think of anything you know yeah
yeah i mean yeah i i definitely agree with
you sports card investor has been around for
a while i don't know if it's been a few years or
not um you know that's obviously sports focused um
and then you know there's card ladder is the
next one that i can think of because they do
sports of course but they also have some
pokemon cards uh that that they're that they're
charting with and whatnot so i could see them
easily getting into the pokemon market um you know
just because they already have the infrastructure
um i know for myself because like in my day-to-day
i'm actually a dev so i'm building my
own version specifically for pokemon um
it's your uh one of your podcasts recently and
uh you had you're developing a is it an app
right or yeah yeah yeah i'm calling it cardfolio
um and it's going to do something similar so you
know be able to to uh manage a virtual binder of
your cards you can set goals on for example create
a wish list really these are the cards that i want
this is how much approximately all those cards are
going for right now in the market so this is
at this moment in time how much it would take
to you know complete those goals and then being
able to um view it in in a portfolio type way
so being able to see the different types and
how much um exposure you have like in sealed
versus raw cards versus slabs yeah that's that's
a big one i feel like um having something like
that would be important just because uh i don't
feel like too many people keep track of their
their collections in like excel and so they'll
be like oh i have this oh but i have this
but to be able to see it where
you can see the big picture of it
it's definitely important uh in the long run if
you intend to stay in collecting in the long run
too yeah i agree i think there's value in it and
i mean you know um what's actually kind of funny
is when i was doing some initial research i was
i put out surveys uh for my instagram followers
and i noticed it what's funny is i noticed
uh when it comes to listeners to the podcast
um a lot of them tend to be either some kind of
dev some kind of data or some kind of finance
you know in those kinds of sectors and like 90
to 95 of them had some form of excel sheet so
i'm like oh dang i'm not the only one that
actually does that um you know because it's
hard to keep that up to date which is part of
the reason why i wanted to build this because
i mean really i was doing it for myself you
know something that i wouldn't have to go in
and manually update and whatnot so so it's it's
really kind of selfish because it started with me
but but it's been really interesting to see the
excitement around it because a lot of other people
want the convenience that it can offer as well
which is which is really nice um you know i don't
know uh if this has been implemented in your app
but like um you know how there's like the qr code
at the back of like the the slot whatever i don't
know if bgs doesn't do it i know cgs cgc does but
i don't know if there's a way where um or if the
the interface on your app if people have to type
in or like enter the information but if they
just take a picture of it and then it's added
to their collection it's probably already done
right so so um the like my very first versions
of it won't have that functionality it'll be
more of like like a like a a table of like a
like let's say you're looking at a set page um you
can click add buttons to make it easy to add items
but it will it will be able to at some point uh
once it's released uh be able to actually scan
an item and be able to kind of see that because
that was one of the things that i was thinking of
because i have a i don't have a huge collection
but i have a big enough of a one to where that
process can be very very manually taxing so um in
later iterations probably for an actual release
um that that will be the functionality so
it'll be cool it'll be it'll be very cool
i i don't i haven't thought about the the cute
the qr codes um but um right now i'm trying to
figure out the face of it um so just being
able to look at the front of a card and then
having enough information from that scan to you
know categorize it so yeah that that um yeah i
look forward to probably i'll probably implement
it in cardfolio version three version four
it'll it'll be down the line but it'll be good
it'll be good it'll be fun yeah that one yeah
that's that's a big thing too though like um i
could i could definitely see the importance of it
just because you know you have to keep track of
how much you spend especially in today's hobby
that's uh that's probably one of the biggest
things yeah no i i completely agree and i mean
because of the initial data that's being collected
so your binder how much it cost you to acquire the
item and then the sales information on the
back end of the item all of that information
there is so much you can do with that you know
there's i mean obviously in the investment side
of it so being able to manage it like an actual
investment portfolio being able to see all that
data see where your growth is see where you're
overexposed um see where you may want to grow
intentionally you know from maybe a spec perspec
perspective you know what were your top movers
what were your top losers things like that um
are you able to compare it to like um like sales
on ebay or sales like uh from another marketplace
um so you can see here your cards compare or your
collectible items compare yeah so the goal is to
have ebay data that that will be kind of like the
first iteration is to have ebay data but the goal
is to aggregate as much market data as i can from
other marketplaces as well so uh collectors.com
i think is one you know of course ebay
uh of course uh you know other just other sales
apps even though you think for video games to use
uh pricechart.com um that could be one short.com
um i've been i've been trying to keep an eye on
video i don't know if i touched upon that no
i i feel like i might have heard it but it's
been a long time since i've probably spoken
to anyone about it so to be honest i forgot
about it completely but um but yeah so price
chart uh is what you use for pricing video games
yeah um they gather the sales data of uh let me
look it up on my phone they gather sales data of
video games pricecharting.com that's that's the
name so it's like current and historic prices for
every video game um so when i'm trying to like
purchase uh like a sealed video game i want to
make sure that you know i have the correct
valuation of it and then uh like either buy
the game at that price or or uh make an offer
for it if i feel like it's it's overpriced
interesting yeah but yeah something like portfolio
like if you have like price history of items
that's most key because like a lot of people they
they tend to overpay um without checking like sold
listings in the past or trying to figure
out whether or not a sale is legitimate so
yeah more information with quality in it it's
key to any collector yeah i i definitely agree
with you um and and my kind of my my whole
deal is is the data piece of it honestly and
i've talked about this in other podcasts you know
the data piece of it is going to be tough because
you know um i'm not going to be able
to validate show bidding yeah yeah
i'm not going to be able to do that um so
so that will kind of throw the data off um
data where like they did they didn't pay for
the item yeah yeah exactly like like an actual
completed successful listing that someone paid
for you know that stuff that stuff is gonna be
hard to kind of uh weed out so there's going to
be a degree of inaccuracy so so what i'm trying
to do is develop models data models where i can
actually get it as accurate as i can and it'll
take a lot of time it'll take a lot of work but
i feel like if i have it by you know the 30th
anniversary like i mean i'll definitely have an
app by then yeah i will definitely have something
out by then it will not take me five years
to develop this but i mean to iterate on and
really perfect will take a few years uh so so i'm
hoping you know as long as i can get that really
perfected and down by the 30th anniversary i think
i'll be good no that's that's definitely key like
like all great things they they definitely come
with time whether it's a collection or whether
it's like it's an app um you have to think of it
in in the long term because uh you could end up
like like uh you know like here's another
analogy like uh like collecting it collecting
and also like building something like an
app um it's definitely like a marathon
much of a sprint you know and uh yeah i
mean it's it's it's great i i've noticed
like quite a few like technology pieces come up
in the in the collectibles within the past year
um so i'm looking forward to seeing more
of of this app from zip codfolio um like
like if with the amount of investors or
uh investor collectors out there like i
definitely feel like they they gravitate towards
that um and they'd find it like a use for it
i really think they do um i i really think i
really think that's the case um and what's nice is
that there's enough features to kind of satisfy a
lot of different users who who are really similar
um and in the tools that they need are really
similar so i think it'll really work out
uh i'm really excited for it i also have another
project that i haven't publicly talked about
because i want to keep it real close to the
chest but you know i've got i've got a lot of
things working in the background which which
are really fun um it's really fun i i like
building things so it so more info to come soon of
course but you know looking forward to it though
for sure for sure so am i so am i so um but
anyways you know i want to be respectful of your
time because we've been on for about an hour and
30 so far so i know like time just kind of flew um
so so i want everyone to uh if you could let
everyone know where they can find you on the
internet um so um uh i basically have an ig
um instagram it's no scotch tape all one word
and yes it's exactly what it means uh i don't
want any scotch tape near my collectibles um
comics and cards especially uh and yeah i
post there almost every other day and then um
i also have a youtube channel which i haven't
posted for the daily life for me in a while um
just been pretty busy with stuff um but i'm pretty
responsive to stuff um i love uh collectibles as
talk about this podcast and i always like to learn
about the hobby and yeah just find me on there and
i post once my collection and offer tips to
anyone who asks for it cool awesome thank you
so much go follow him y'all and um i just want to
say thank you so much for for coming on i mean i
think this is really great it was really nice to
get your perspective so maybe we can do a part two
yeah yeah i'm definitely down and uh thank you for
having me um you know i was a big fan uh so being
able to come to your show or or go on to your
show um it's not like you have a studio where
i get like this game um but uh but yeah being
able to be on this i i really do appreciate it
it's always great to talk to a fellow hobbyist uh
collector and uh yeah yeah feel free let me know
again yeah yeah of course we'll do we'll do no
doubt anyways take it easy all right take care bye
you