Greg the Hydrogen Man: Harnessing Molecular Hydrogen for Effective Pain Relief

In this episode, I speak with Greg, known as the "Hydrogen Man," about molecular hydrogen therapy.

Greg shares his journey from skepticism to belief, detailing how hydrogen therapy helped him overcome severe health issues. We discuss the science behind this emerging treatment, its potential benefits for inflammation and autoimmune conditions, and practical ways to incorporate it into daily life.

Whether you're curious about alternative therapies or seeking new approaches to wellness, this conversation offers valuable insights into the world of hydrogen therapy.

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And when I first read it, I
actually thought it was a scam.

And I remember I kept reading the data,
though, because it was intriguing.

And as I kept reading it, I, I remember
just thinking, okay, this is interesting.

And I kept going and I kept going and it
took almost four years of reading data

before I would even consider trying it.

Because I really did think
it was too good to be true.

And most of the stuff that I
discovered that was too good to

be true was usually not true.

Welcome back to the inspired
living with autoimmunity podcast.

I'm your host, Julie Michelson.

And today we are joined by Greg, the
hydrogen man, and we're talking about the

powerful benefits of molecular hydrogen.

Greg shares his healing journey with
us along with his deep dive into

the world of molecular hydrogen,
including the best forms and

delivery systems to improve health.

Greg, welcome to the podcast.

Well, thank you so much.

It's actually a pleasure to be here.

It's nice to meet you.

So I would love to hear your journey, uh,
to how did you become the hydrogen man?

Cause that's, that's unique.

It certainly wasn't planned.

I mean, Basically, I just got really sick,
you know, I had a lot of medical issues,

and that includes actually autoimmune
issues, but I also had a really bad

heart condition, I had inflammation all
over my body, you know, I couldn't walk,

and that was extremely depressing, you
know, for me, and I actually worked in

the medical field for like two decades.

Oh, wow.

And so I really had a good
idea of how the system worked.

And when I got sick, I remember
thinking, oh no, I guess I

don't want to go through it.

But I saw so many people go through
and my condition wasn't something

that they could particularly really
pinpoint because I had so many issues.

And including even tumors.

And it was just like one thing after
another, my liver wasn't doing real great

either, you know, it was really, really
bad and it was extremely depressing.

And it got to the point where I
literally couldn't even change

the channels on a remote control.

My, my joints hurt so bad.

And that was kind of my low point.

And so that's how it all really happened.

And then, of course, because there really
wasn't any, you know, because the medical

establishment just wanted to like, give me
pain pills, anti inflammatories, you know,

yeah,

and, you know, I think we all know
that that's kind of what they do.

And so that's really what happened.

And then I was just always trying to,
one thing that happened with me is I

started reading a lot of, you know,
So, you know, I think a lot of us

go to YouTube and sometimes look for
answers even medically, right, or things

that could potentially work for us.

And when I was on YouTube,
my frustration was that I was

getting differences of opinions.

So one person will say,
Hey, nothing about me.

One person says, no, eat
nothing but raw vegetables.

One person says, no, drink this water.

One person says, no, drink that water.

And, and that became very frustrating,
um, because everybody and their

mother was saying something different.

And then on top of it, Um, you know,
everybody was always saying, I'll take

this supplement, take that supplement.

There's so many supplements out there,
too, and I'm not saying that they're not

good or anything, but after a while, I
remember thinking to myself, well, what if

I took everything that everybody suggests?

And I quickly realized that
that would be pretty foolish.

I mean, I would have a
cupboard just full of stuff.

Um, and the whole thing just
began to almost, dare I say,

look a little bit like a joke.

I was like, okay, this is, this
is just getting really weird.

And then I made a decision, um, just of
my own fruition that I think I'm just

going to start looking at scientific
evidence, and I have to learn how to

read data, but also understand where the
data is coming from to make sure that,

you know, these are reliable studies.

And then on top of that,
I don't just do that.

I'll read the data.

I'll also go with what makes sense.

I'll also go with other data and I'll
basically look at the same thing from

multiple different angles and then even
think with my own logic because you know,

I, my personality for a lot of people who
don't know is I'm extremely skeptical.

It takes a lot to
convince someone like me.

And when I really, really want something,
I can become quite proficient and I don't

want to say that I'm like really smart
because I don't think of myself that way.

But when I'm really interested in
something, I learn a lot about it,

and I get very, I don't want to
say the word obsessive, but I would

say that I become very passionate.

Um, and so that's kind
of how it all happened.

And of course, I stumbled upon the
data of, you know, molecular hydrogen.

And when I first read it, I
actually thought it was a scam.

And I remember I kept reading the data,
though, because it was intriguing.

And as I kept reading it, I, I remember
just thinking, okay, this is interesting.

And I kept going and I kept going and it
took almost four years of reading data

before I would even consider trying it.

Because I really did think
it was too good to be true.

And most of the stuff that I
discovered that was too good to

be true was usually not true.

Yeah.

Yep.

And so once, I mean, I was so desperate.

I had spent a massive amount
of money on different.

Supplements, devices, naturopaths,
normal MDs, I mean, I really went

through absolutely everything and I
even, at one point I even made kind

of a promise to myself, I even made
a prayer, you know, for anybody who's

spiritual, you know, I did make a prayer
because I was at my low point, and I

was just like, God, you know, please
help me find, you know, the answers.

I didn't really ask for him
to just heal me immediately.

I just asked for like guidance,
you know, give me the path.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah.

And so that, that did actually, something
did start happening, because my brain,

I really wasn't actually interested
in medical jargon, I wasn't interested

in the medical field, even though I
stumbled upon to work in it, it was

kind of a funny long story, but that's
not really what's important, the point

is, is that All of a sudden, I became a
little more interested in medicine, and

I think it was just because I was sick.

I mean, that was really the
only reason I was interested.

And as time went on, I actually, this is
kind of off subject and I probably won't

go into it much, but, you know, I even
started having different experiences as I

was doing things with my body, let's say.

And that became intriguing to
me because I'm like, huh, why

am I, why am I responding this
way, especially as a skeptic?

To some of these things that I'm
implementing and a lot of it had to do

with purity So like the cleanest water
the cleanest food changing my lifestyle

changing my diet And then I would also
have these, you know, dare I say spiritual

experiences and that's you know Something
that I would have also been pretty

skeptical about so all these things start
happening and then of course with the

hydrogen thing I Was again reading the
data and I finally thought you know what?

I just need to try this stuff because
You I'm clearly not getting better.

And then of course, reading not just about
the hydrogen, the next part that became

much more complex was, so how do I get it?

I mean, where in the heck do you
go buy hydrogen and what exact type

of hydrogen are we talking about?

Cause you know, there's
different types of hydrogen.

And so which one are we
talking about medically?

And then if I do find a way to make it.

Is there a safe or unsafe way?

Which I quickly realized was actually much
more important than just about anything,

any other part of this whole journey.

And then how much of it do I need?

And then how is it implemented?

You know, do I dissolve it in water?

Do I get an IV?

Do I inhale the gas?

It's like, how do I go?

I mean, there was a lot of questions.

And so eventually I figured all that out.

It's a long story, you know, of
eventually how I figured all that out.

And then I remember just thinking
to myself, you know, what?

Yeah.

I, I, I remember looking for
YouTube for answers and nobody

was talking about hydrogen.

Shocker.

Um, no, nobody knew the answers to these
questions and it took so much effort in

so many years for me to figure it all
out, but I was like, you know, I should

at least share this on, on YouTube, which
is why I started the YouTube channel.

And I thought it was an absolutely
amazing thing to hydrogen, because

not only what it did for me, but
what it did for like my father.

I mean, you know, high blood
pressure, high cholesterol,

glaucoma, arthritis, and diabetes.

And when hydrogen got rid of all
that for him, it blew my mind.

I just could not believe what
I was witnessing on top of the

things that it did for me too.

And so it became kind of,
you know, pretty remarkable.

And of course, with time, I fine
tuned How it would do the hydrogen

the best way to make it and that was
a process too that took There was

more they were still learning even
when I started my youtube channel.

I realized that there was more learning Uh
to go and that guided me to japan Because

the japanese I mean they were you know, I
was of course wondering where the heck is.

Um Are these studies coming from?

And of course, they
were coming from Japan.

And then I was seeing, well, who's making,
you know, who's doing this research and,

you know, not only legitimate universities
and, you know, it was very legitimate.

In fact, it's already
been medically approved.

I don't know if you're aware of that.

Um, and it was something that I, I
saw that the medical establishment in

Japan was trying to do something that
I, was not fond of, which was they

were trying to bury it under the rug.

They did not want this
stuff to be approved.

And I couldn't understand why.

Well, you know, but the way that the
world is going these days, I think I'm

starting to understand a little better.

Why I think it's all been exposed.

It's not a mystery

to me, Greg.

I know, because I'm such, you know, I'm,
I'm the kind of guy where In my mind,

you know, I want the best for people, I
could never, I could never understand,

you know, a level of corruption that
could potentially either be trying to harm

people or don't want people to get better.

That was not, it was very hard for
me to swallow that pill because

that's just not the way that I think.

I always wanted the best for people.

It actually brings me the most joy
for people to do well and it makes

me sad when they don't do well.

And, um, but yeah, once I realized that
I was like, okay, but the, thank God

for these scientists that push so hard
in Japan and for years and eventually

it just couldn't be denied no more.

It was clearly something amazing
and they had too much evidence.

I mean, we're not talking about a
hundred studies or 200 or 300 or 800.

I mean, we're talking not only
well over a thousand, it's

nudging around 2000 or more.

So it's, it's a lot of data out there.

That's amazing.

Amazing.

And, and for listeners that are not
familiar with you and are listening

on audio, um, you know, it's hard.

And I get this.

I understand it.

It's hard to imagine you
being so debilitated.

And also there has to be, we can get
into this or not some anti aging.

You don't look that way.

Old enough to have spent two
decades working anywhere.

So

he's fit and young and clearly.

So I would love to, to kind of
circle back and dig into, um, if I

could talk to you for three hours.

I would go kind of chronologically
through your figuring out, right?

Like, you know, what kind of hydrogen?

How do you make it?

How do you, how do you take it?

What are the doses?

But I want to just kind of cut
to the chase for listeners of

the knowledge you have now.

You know, tell it, tell us kind of the
ins and outs and do's and don'ts and

why, like, how is it that you are healthy
and well, and like you mentioned your

father specifically, what is, what is
it about hydrogen that is so healing?

You know, the first thing I'll
say is that I observed nature

a lot on this whole journey.

Again, I would look at the science.

But I also observe nature.

So, like, one of the interesting examples
is, have you ever heard of a place called

Lourdes, France, or Lourdes, France?

Yes, yes.

And, you know, they talk about
the healing waters of Lourdes, and

apparently it was the Japanese who
discovered that that water actually

had high levels of molecular hydrogen.

And, um, That to me see that
and that comes from nature.

So that's just one thing.

Um, then of course, they took it to
the lab and started testing on animals.

And of course, they saw the
amazing things that were happening.

I wish I could show you some footage
of these mice that these poor mice,

but the things they had to go through.

But it's so remarkable.

I have videos of it.

I mean, I already go as have as far.

I have like live blood
analysis in the lab.

I had a doctor contact me
telling me, you know what you're

showing there is possible.

Um, and then, of course, that
particular doctor, I still remember.

She actually got the exact same
device that was used in the in that

lab study, and she performed the
same exact test because she was

actually trying to prove me wrong.

And I'm like, You're
not really proving me.

You know, you'd be proving
the Japanese wrong.

Not me, but I'm sure I'm sharing the data.

And all she did was actually prove
me right and prove them right

because she said the results were
the same and she couldn't Believe

she said this is unbelievable.

This is literally like a miracle
molecule and it really is I mean,

like I said, it's really changed my
life and and what it exactly does.

Nobody actually knows exactly what it does
I don't know if you're aware that nobody

actually knows the full mechanism What
they can do is they can they can use it

and they can see that it clearly works And
they've discovered some things about it.

I mean, they've discovered that
it appears, I will always say,

I'm not giving any medical advice
for making any medical claims.

I will never put that out there.

But what I can say is that they
know that it appears that it

functions as an anti inflammatory.

It appears to function as an antioxidant
and a very unique antioxidant like a

selective Antioxidant and you know,
it does seem to activate certain parts

in the body like certain enzymes um
It appears now this depends on how you

use it Also, whether you use the water
or the gas inhalation whether it can

cause the body to produce like ghrelin
for example Which is you know, the

precursor to hgh which is typically
something that happens when you fast So

it almost seems to be bringing certain
benefits A fasting without having a fast.

Now, granted, I created, so I
created a lot of my own protocols

and, you know, some of the protocols
I've created, like I created

something called the hydrogen fast.

Um, so if you really want to take
fasting to a whole other level.

It's it's amazing.

Um, some of the stuff that i've come up
with has been studied and proven that I

was correct And then some of the stuff
has not been proven yet, but there is

enough data to support the hypothesis
But i've you know, i've already tried it.

I've tried it with other people i've
personally seen at work I have before

and after pictures on my channel.

Um, there was a guy who had an incurable
condition um, you couldn't even see

the pigment of his skin because it
was covered in like, uh, You Almost

like a strange rash or whatnot.

And somebody saw my, my show and,
you know, they tried my methods and

they sent me pictures because about
six months later, he was way better.

And you could actually see
his original skin color.

Um, they've used this on
Alzheimer's and dementia.

There was a woman who contacted me.

She sent me pictures too.

That was an amazing one
because she contacted me and

just said, is this normal?

Because this stuff is working so
ridiculously good, and you should see my

mother because she had dementia, she was
just staring out at the space, and all of

a sudden she started using this, and you
should see the before and after pictures.

I mean, you could clearly see it
clear as day, and she said her

mother was doing so much better.

And there's so many stories like that.

I've been doing this for many
years, and hydrogen just continues

to absolutely blow my mind.

It's really hard to believe, but one
of the things that I love the most

about hydrogen, it was actually the
very first instinctual thing when

I first started reading about the
data, even though I logically I'm

like, okay, this looks like a scam.

But instinctively, I did have a feeling
about it the moment I read about it,

which was It actually felt like a guardian
angel as crazy as that sounds and the

reason that I say that is because of how
protective It appears to be so on a video.

I have my videos are numbered
and if you were to look at video

For example number eight, um, it
clearly shows you how protective

it they on that particular study.

They were using like chemotherapy
radiation Um, but what I started

noticing about hydrogen is that it
appears to protect you Not just from

that just just about Everything.

So, for example, um, there was a, another
study, if you've ever known something

about something called cisplatin.

I'm not familiar.

So cisplatin is a cancer drug.

Um, and you know, it's for tumors.

Now doctors don't tend to want to
give cisplatin to their patients

because it will literally destroy
your kidneys and then you're going

to end up needing a kidney transplant
on top of your cancer, right?

Um, so it's rarely used, but there
was a study that I read where they

were trying to study the effects not
just of cisplatin, but they were using

hydrogen and lo and behold, hydrogen
was protecting the kidneys where you

could literally use this medicine.

And potentially be walking out
with your original kidneys.

And, and that's just, it
goes on and on and on.

And, and, you know, one of the things
that crossed my mind was, I know that

we're in a world that's highly polluted.

I know when you have crap in our
water, I got the lab test to prove it.

You know, I know we have stuff in our air.

I know we have stuff in our food,
including, we know that we spray, you

know, herbicides, fungicides, pesticides,
you know, that we know are harmful.

I mean, we have the data.

We know that they're harmful.

And so I thought to
myself, what better way.

Then to use something like hydrogen
just to protect me from everyday

life as a preventative care.

And on top of it, all the wonderful
things that it can potentially do for us.

And like I said, the hardest thing
was really just, um, How do I

get it into my house and and how
do I get like therapeutic grade?

Like really, you know, because a
lot of people don't understand the

difference between medical grade
and not medical grade And medical

grade just like oxygen medical
grade oxygen is a very high purity.

It's all about purity And when I was
looking at hydrogen equipment, I realized

that most of the stuff was being made
in china And I mean not to throw china

under the rug, but like A lot of the stuff
from China, they don't, let's just say

they don't have a good tracker, right?

Uh, if you look at, if you
look at stuff from there,

quality control and purity
is not, I don't even know.

Is there a Chinese word for purity?

I'm sure there is, sorry, but
not manufacturing processes.

Oh my gosh.

And when I really started learning
about hydrogen, I had to learn

about Things that had to do with
engineering, which were not my interest.

Again, this is what was so hard for
me, but I became interested because

of how I wanted to get better.

And I started learning about methodology,
you know, the science of metals and how

important that was for hydrogen, um, the
computers that operate these devices.

Um, you know, I, I stay away
from any device made from China.

I stay away from any device because
I've never seen them have the

technology that I'm looking for.

Um, stayed away from devices from Korea.

Actually, I did use originally a
Korean device and I learned that

they were using Chinese parts and
they would put them together there.

Um, then after lots of research, I started
finding out that You have to be cautious

even with stuff from Japan, because a lot
of the stuff in Japan was actually Chinese

stuff being shipped there and they would
put them together there and they could

legally claim that they're made in Japan.

So this caused a lot of digging.

And eventually I did find actually
they're the number one company.

In all of Japan, and that
guy's story is incredible.

I mean, he had a sick daughter.

He had a very, um, knowledge.

He had a lot of knowledge
in regards to hydrogen.

Uh, he really just had a theory that
it could really help his daughter.

She was born with ALS,
Lou Gehrig's disease.

Oh, wow.

It was really sad, and they, they told
him, Look, your daughter's probably not

going to make it to the age of, You'll be
lucky if she makes it to the age of five.

And, um, clearly that
would be extremely sad.

And he's just set out to make the best
hydrogen machine in the world and and

he didn't want to outsource to China.

Everything was done in house.

Everything was done in Japan.

He seeked out companies with top
engineers and top technology.

He had like Yamaha had
a hand in his device.

G Shock had a hand on his device, I
believe Toyota even, um, and I believe

there's a, there's a metal company.

I can't remember the name of it anymore,
but anyway, he really went all out.

It's actually the only lab tested
lab certified device in the world,

like as far as hydrogen goes.

And, um, and even, uh, one of the top
doctors in Japan who is a neurosurgeon

and I believe in neuroscience too.

I mean, this guy is like, he graduated
from the number one university in

all of Japan, which is a big deal for
people who don't know Japan, they highly

value education and if you're one of
the, like, if you're at the number

one university and you're one of the
top of your class, you're brilliant.

You're, you're extremely intelligent.

And this guy actually uses
the exact same device I do.

And it's the only one he recommends
to his patients because I've also seen

it not only work for, um, well, I've
seen it, what it does for dementia

and Alzheimer's, but I've also worked
personally with people at TBI, you know,

traumatic brain injury, and he deals
with stuff like that too, obviously

a lot of neurological disorders.

And it was unbelievable.

I was, I spoke to a woman who
could, she didn't even, she

couldn't even remember her own name.

Everything that you would talk to
her, she'd forget in about 10 seconds.

And it was really bad.

And I actually just spoke
to her like three days ago.

It was such a sweet phone call.

Cause she got back to me and this
was, you know, after months of

her using the hydrogen, she gets
back to me, I'm not kidding you.

I couldn't, I couldn't recognize her
voice because she could speak coherently.

And I was like, who is this?

And, you know, she
explained to me what it was.

And the only reason she got back
to me was because she said, I

just wanted to let you know.

I know that you didn't know this, but
she said, I was ready to take my life.

She said, I couldn't live like this.

I was a mess.

And she said, you saved my life,
you know, and you spend all this

time with me and it touches me.

You know, I get kind of emotional
about it because I do spend

a lot of time with people.

And, um, and so anyway, she
was just calling to thank me.

And, um, it was a really, it
was a very touching moment.

It's not the only call I've ever received
or anything, but, um, Yeah, it's just

wonderful to see and I just think the
world needs to know so I thank you for

having me on and sharing this with the
people out there who don't know about, you

know, hydrogen and how to do it properly,

which is which is probably
most of the population.

Let's talk about the different, you
know, you mentioned earlier, you

know, drinking hydrogen water versus.

inhaling hydrogen.

How does somebody decide what's
the right approach for them?

Or is one just across the
board better than the other?

Well, the technique that I developed
that appears to be the best technique.

So in nature, um, it's the water
that has a dissolved hydrogen in

it, like Lord's France, for example.

Uh, the device that the gentleman created,
which I actually have right here, also

Cause I sit here and inhale my hydrogen
gas when I'm doing different things.

And actually, you know, if you don't
mind, I'm just gonna inhale a little bit.

We're hanging out here anyway.

So might as well, I know it makes
you look like you're sick, but

I'm clearly not sick, but anyway.

Um, it's just good for you, but
yeah, there is a difference.

There's a difference on how to react
to the body and how you can use it.

Um, I, I loved it when the guy created
this thing that he did both that it makes

the water and the gas because I wouldn't
after learning everything that I have.

I wouldn't want to just
do one or the other.

Now, if I had to choose, if I had, you
know, if I had to absolutely choose,

I would definitely choose the water.

And that's mostly because of, again, data.

It was, it's ironically
a very funny story too.

The Japanese all assume that the
gas was going to be of greater

benefit because you get a lot more
hydrogen when you're inhaling.

Right.

And so they just assumed that that
would be better, but this is why we do

research and this is why we have science,
you know, good science, of course, not

these, uh, this other fake science.

Yeah.

I won't go into that.

Right.

That's a whole other episode.

And, um, so yeah, so.

They basically discovered
that the water appeared to be

better, um, in a lot of ways.

And like I said, I use them both.

Um, I developed a technique where
you actually, for example, you drink

the water and empty stomach, and then
you inhale the gas after the water.

And that actually appears to do more
than either one of them on their own.

So they kind of enhance each other.

And, uh, so that's one of the techniques
that, you know, quote unquote, I did and,

uh, yeah, so I like the water, the water
more and I think water is more of a, it's

an everyday thing that we can easily do.

I mean, everybody drinks
water, or at least they should.

Yes, they should.

And, and by the way, and I mean, clean
water, you know, for a lot of people

who don't know, I also had to become a
little bit of a water expert, um, because

it seems that again, everybody and
their mother seems to have a difference

of opinion on what the best water is.

And I had to go as far as basically
not listening to people anymore, and

I had to ask myself the questions.

Do I want a water that's a specific pH?

Do I want a water that, you know,
is from spring water, you know, or

like, what kind of water do I want?

And my answer was, I
just want clean water.

Like, I don't care what pH it is.

I mean, you could give me
perfect pH and it could have

all sorts of chemicals in it.

Um, so I just want to clean water.

And of course, I start
observing nature again.

And ironically, it all
starts with hydrogen.

Because it starts with the sun and
it hits the ocean and we go through

what's called the hydrologic system.

And that is the best way to purify water.

I even found ancient scriptures
where they spoke about it.

And this is, again, where I, where I line
things up from every which, And then, of

course, I looked at the science and it
was clear as day that carbon distillation

is the only way to highly, highly, highly
purify water to the highest degree where

you remove everything from the PFAS,
which is an almost everybody's water in

America, which we know causes cancer in a
major way from the fluoride in the water.

To all the heavy metals in
the water inorganic compounds,

you throw my research.

It shocked me to find that we
even have radiation in our water.

We have radioactive contaminants
basically in our water.

I mean, what's in our
water is just horrendous.

And so I found this way to sharing this

to be depressing.

It's because we can, we can take action.

Yeah, exactly.

Yeah.

That's a sad thing.

Not to interrupt you, but that's
a sad thing about this world is

that we need to now be educated
in order to learn to navigate it.

If we want to stay home.

Right.

You know, that's my opinion.

Yeah.

And so, it kind of sucks that that's what
we have to be, because I don't want to

be the guy saying, the water's going to
hurt you, you know, you got to do this.

It's like, I don't want to
be this guy, you know, but.

You know, I had to become that person
for myself and my own well being, and

I don't go around being preachy around
my friends and family, really, you

know, um, they know what I'm doing,
um, sometimes it bothers them that I'm,

they think I'm a health nut, and it's
like, look guys, I can walk again, okay?

Yeah.

If you know what that means, I get it.

I

get it.

As do many of, of our listeners.

So lay person question.

And I, I dabbled in hydrogen for, I
don't know, probably the past five

years or so, but can you, you know,
are there ways to misuse hydrogen?

Can you overdo it or
do things incorrectly?

Oh, of course.

I mean, the biggest misuse is
one, just the wrong hydrogen.

Um, for example, there are
people out there who talk about

something called Brown's gas.

Um, that, in my personal opinion,
especially the way that I see

it made, um, they use chemicals.

Can you believe that?

They literally use chemicals like,
uh, lye or sodium hydroxide, which is

literally the main ingredient in Drano.

And people literally use this
stuff to, and go on telling

people that this is good for them.

And I'm like, you know,
there's like, Zero there.

I haven't seen one study that shows
that Brown's gas is actually effective,

but the problem is they confuse people
because they tell people out there.

Hey, this is hydrogen, and it is kind
of a form of hydrogen, but it's not

molecular hydrogen, and that's the
stuff where all the data is, you know,

is on, um, using just cheap products.

You know, I'm not a personally, I'm
not going to, you know, I'm not going

to name any companies or anything,
but like, I'm not a fan of like, for

example, they have hydrogen pills out
there or, or other, um, they have what's

called magnesium sticks from China.

So they try to create again, another
chemical reaction to create the hydrogen.

And that's the problem is that
the chemical reactions are the

incorrect ways of doing hydrogen.

Have byproducts.

And so you want the purity.

It's all about the purity because
if you want the real benefits of

hydrogen, in my personal opinion,
it's going to be long term.

You're not, you're not going to
drink a glass of water one day.

You're going to want something.

It's like a water filter.

You're going to want the best water
filter, or in my case, carbon distiller.

That's what I use to make
the absolute cleanest water.

And I guess if people want to look
at the equipment I use, they can go.

There's a website called
my pure water dot com.

That's, that's the ones that I use.

They're made in America.

They're not Chinese made.

Um, I have a discount
code if you want one.

It's Uprising144k, the same name as my
YouTube channel, but that's up to you

if, you know, if you want to share with
the audience, but that's what I use.

I only recommend,

you

know, and I only recommend what
I personally use, so I don't

recommend just anything, you know,
so, and I don't use a ton of stuff.

So tell me a little more about
this machine that you do use.

Um, and yes, because I have
a question I'm dying to ask

after this machine is obviously
again, it's it was a Japanese.

It's a Japanese device.

It's fully engineered, fully
built, like this is the real,

an actual real Japanese machine.

And like I said, it's the number
one machine in Japan for a reason,

the purity of it is extremely high.

In fact, uh, there's going to be more
data coming out that I wish I could

talk about, but, um, I'm not allowed
to talk about it just yet until it's

all finalized, but yeah, but all I can
say is that all it does is reiterate

what I've been saying for years.

So it turned out that I
was, again, I was right.

You know about the things that
I've been saying that's all

it's going to prove in the end.

Okay Um, but this is the beautiful thing
is that we have access to it now We

don't have to wait for doctors in america
to figure it out one or two or three

decades from now It's already accessible.

It's already affordable.

This guy literally made a device that
you can use in your home That is easy

to use It literally has one button
and um, very cheap to maintain and I

just couldn't, you know, I couldn't be
happier that this guy did what he did.

It's sad, which I think it
happens for a lot of people.

It's the sad and terrible things that
can sometimes bring out wonderful things.

I think it's like what Buddha's saying
about, you know, That flower that comes

from the mud or whatever, you know, and
um, so yeah, I mean, I'm very grateful

for it and it's certainly changed my life
and other people around me, you know, I

have had a lot of friends and family who
have benefited from this and obviously

a lot of people out on the Internet, so.

And would you, in your opinion,
again, where nobody's giving

medical advice, but is there
anybody who shouldn't use hydrogen?

Therapy.

Um, well, in my opinion, as long as
it's made right, then I would, in

my personal opinion, absolutely not.

There is nobody I can think of.

The only cautions that I would
give people is because it works so

good that sometimes you have to be
cautious if you're on medication.

So let's say you, let's say without
medication, you had high blood pressure.

And let's say you would take your
medication and it would bring it down

to the level where it's supposed to be.

Well, let's say that you
start drinking hydrogen water.

Well now, and I've seen it a
million times, I always warn

people and they don't listen to me.

Because I've had some people be
like, Oh my gosh, I've suffered

from high blood pressure forever.

It's so hard for them to get
it down even with medication.

Well, sure enough, they start using
the hydrogen and they realize that

their blood pressure is now too low.

And I'm like, I told you, you
have to monitor because what's

going to end up happening.

And I've seen it happen with numerous
people is that the doctor is going to

have to start slowly weaning you off the
medication until you find that balance.

And actually I've seen a ton of people get
off their high blood pressure medication.

So, so that's one thing.

Um, the other big one that
I've seen is Diabetes.

So I knew you were going to say that

because those are the two in my
work that we're always having to

monitor and, and reduce luckily.

There you go.

And it's the same thing.

It makes, it makes your blood
glucose where you don't have to

use basically that much insulin.

Um, there was a woman who now she likes
to call herself the hydrogen girl because

she found me and I helped her too with her
diabetes and she had type one diabetes.

She was able to go almost six
months without using insulin at all.

Which her doctor literally
told her that's impossible.

And she did it.

And I did a whole video on it.

I had screenshots of all her, her
glucometer readings, everything.

And her doctor just couldn't believe it.

He was like, you know,
this is impossible yet.

I'm witnessing it.

He tracked her for almost six months.

And he, I guess, asked her, he's
like, where did you learn to do this?

Like, what are you doing?

And where did you learn?

And she said, well, I'm
doing this hydrogen stuff.

And I learned from this guy, this guy
online calls himself the hydrogen man.

And I guess the doctor was
like, No, what are you talking?

No, no, there's this shouldn't even exist.

This guy should be
getting some Nobel prize.

And I'm like, well, it wouldn't be me.

It would be the people in
Japan, you know, um, but this

guy was apparently blown away.

And I have been contacted throughout
the years by numerous doctors and

physicians because they want to know
my techniques because they've seen

what it does for their patients.

And so I ended up having
to start educating.

I can't believe I'm
saying this, but doctors,

um,

it's been totally wild.

Yeah, it's amazing.

So the hydrogen water,

you know,

talk to me a little bit about that
process of you know, I'm always,

you know, fascinated with how long
does the hydrogen stay in the water.

If you're So how does that work?

So hydrogen does not
stay in water very long.

It I call it the the molecule
will think of a balloon.

They just float away and they're
constantly leaving the water.

It's going to depend on temperature.

It's going to depend on the movement
of the water, and it's going to depend

on how you actually make it to because
again, there's numerous methods.

Of making hydrogen in different
ways, and some are going to

be more stable than others.

And so basically, the way that
this machine makes it is the

most stable that I've ever seen.

And it does fully saturate the water.

So be very cautious with numbers
that are given out there by hydrogen

companies too, because I've seen
certain quote unquote claims.

And then when I see the lab tests,
they're not particularly accurate,

you know, quite often, unfortunately.

And that's why this machine,
again, lab tested certified, you

actually know what you're getting.

And that's extremely important,
and that was the issue in Japan.

That's why, that's why they
went as far as doing it.

But it's such a crazy process
to do that for every machine.

Nobody in the world does
it except this one company.

If you can believe that, just one company
out of all of them, uh, does this.

But, so the water probably
lasts about an hour.

Just to give you like a rough number,

it lasts about an hour.

That's a long time.

That's longer than I was
expecting you to say.

Well, but let me give you the

bad news.

So in one hour, let's say that in
one hour, all the hydrogen is gone.

So that means that in 30 minutes,
half of it's gone, which means

that in 15 minutes, one fourth of
it is gone and so on and so forth.

And the problem with that is, is that.

In order for you to get what I would
call a therapeutic dose of hydrogen

to really see it do the magic that I,
that I've witnessed, you have to get

certain amounts of hydrogen in you.

And I don't think it's that hard,
but some people find it a little

difficult to get the proper amounts
of hydrogen and, you know, in them.

And that's why when, when you
pour a glass of hydrogen water.

You want to just drink it immediately.

You don't want to just pour a whole thing
and take it with you and walk around

or put it in a normal bottle of water.

Though the company that actually Japan,
again, there's only one company again in

the world and it was a Japanese company.

They make these very special, uh,
bottles to contain hydrogen in the water.

And it's a special like bag actually looks
like a space bag and that can contain

the hydrogen for much longer periods of
time where you could take it with you.

Like I do take it hiking, you know,
depending on where I'm going to go.

And then that leads me to.

One of the things that I try to be really
careful with in my life is plastic.

And so, but talk to me about
why, you know, why would we need

to use plastic when we're, when
we're talking hydrogen water?

Well, I don't think you have
to use plastic now, as far

as the device, the device.

They do use plastic, right?

And that was another interesting one
to me because I was the same way.

And what I started having to research
was different types of polymers, you

know, and I didn't understand that
there are different grades of polymers.

And even if you look at something like,
um, like food grade hydrogen peroxide, I

mean, we're talking about something that
you cannot put in too many containers

and yet they have it in a very special
polymer type of plastic and it's not just

burning it, you know, or melting it away.

And so the Japanese used And this
was one of my big questions that I'm

like, why did you guys use plastic?

I just couldn't wrap my head around it.

And throughout this research, I started
finding that glass can be toxic too.

That shocked me.

It just completely shocked me.

And sure enough, you know,
typically from China, right?

But again, uh, glass
can also be dangerous.

So what they did, so the Japanese for
a lot of people don't know, actually

extremely care about their children.

You know, the youth of their country,
um, their level of education, uh, the way

they feed kids at school is unbelievable.

I mean, they have nutritionists at school.

I mean, oh yeah.

Oh yeah.

I mean, the Japanese are some
next level and they really do.

Love the kids in so many
ways, and I've witnessed it.

And so what they do is they
have a very special material

they use for baby bottles.

And this material is built
to withstand boiling water.

You know, if, because when you can't have
boiling water in contact with plastic,

it can make it even more dangerous.

And so they literally use that
material and even better for the

hydro for the device that I'm using.

It's super high grade.

And they were like, this stuff could
literally withstand boiling water.

You don't wanna put boiling water in
the system because it's not designed

for it, but they said we, it's overkill.

You know, it's, it's like having, I guess
in car talk, it's like having an engine

that, that can withstand a thousand
horsepower, but you're only running 300,

so it's gonna be really strong, you know?

Um, and so it's kind of the same
way with, with this particular

type of polymer that they're using.

Okay.

You convinced me

I've heard you, I've heard you talk
about it before and I just wanted to go

a little deeper on it because, again,
I'm always out here telling people to

be careful of toxin exposure and, and
we definitely speak the same language

about, you know, water purity and, and
the steps we can take to be healthy.

And so when I first, When I
first heard about HydraFix, I

was like, why is it plastic?

Oh, I thought the exact same thing.

I'm totally with, I was like, no, why?

And one of the other reasons they did tell
me too, they said, look, if you were to

use glass, they said it would make the
pitcher so heavy when it's full of water.

And there's a lot of
elderly who use these.

And they, the Japanese were like,
we just think it'd be too much.

And they did have the data
to show that this is actually

appears to be extremely safe.

And I've had nothing but luck with it.

I've never had an issue.

And I have used other devices where
you could feel the plastic was cheaper

because before this device came out
that I have used a lot of devices,

some which even made me sick, like
the ones that use the chemicals.

And I was like, what is this?

And then I would research it and find
out that I was not using the right stuff.

And this one's been so wonderful.

And the best one really.

And so do you drink
hydrogen water all day long?

Or you drink a certain amount?

How do you in your life at
this point, how do you use it?

Yeah, I'm just curious.

Yeah.

So I create obviously my own protocol.

And basically what I do is Drink the water
a certain amount anywhere between half

a liter to one liter is the magic number
Of course if you have healthy kidneys

and I drink it empty stomach 20 to 30
minutes before a meal So basically 20 to

30 minutes before my breakfast and then
i'm not I personally think that it's best

not to snack So I let my body go empty
and when it's lunch time empty stomach

again I'll take the water before lunch
and do the exact same thing before dinner.

So I end up consuming it You Three
times a day and then throughout the

day if I just want a little water
I'll just pour a little glass and like

just take like a quick shot of water,
basically And and that's how I use it

the inhalation I kind of do whenever
I have time if I'm sitting on the

computer if I'm even doing an interview
like this This is very convenient

time for me to sit here and inhale You
know, um, but being in front of the

computer is a really good time to do it.

Remember the protection that it offers
and we're, you know, you know, we're

getting that Blue light or oh, yeah
radiation, you know, so something

protective but i've found that at
nighttime Inhalation actually appears

to work the best when you're really
trying to repair and heal And and

ironically there was no data at the time.

Now.

There's a little bit coming out Um,
it appears that hydrogen actually

helps with insomnia because i've known
people You including all my own family

members, like my mom, who would suffer
from insomnia, inhaled the hydrogen.

It's just all of a sudden she's
like, wow, I slipped great.

And I found data where it shows
to help with stress hormones.

And I just think throughout the entire
day, we suffer from so much stress.

By the end of the day, it just
kind of calms you down a little bit

and you're able to sleep better.

That's amazing.

It's, it truly is the miracle molecule.

Where, where can listeners find out more?

We'll have links in the show notes, but
you know, if people are, they want to know

more about you or more about the Hydrafix,
where, where can they go to find out more?

So I've made all the
information available for free.

People don't have to pay for anything, you
know, and memberships and all this stuff.

You just go to YouTube and type in
Uprising144k, you know, all in one word.

That's the name of my channel.

And I just share all the
information on there.

And I have a little fun with the channel.

You know, I show little things, you
know, here and there, like the other

day, there was, there was like little
deer drowning and I, I recorded it and

I wanted to go and try to save the deer.

Um, so it's a little bit, you
know, a little bit of my life

in there, but for the most part,
I just show how to clean water.

I show how to do the
hydrogen properly and safely.

Um, I do show what I do for my diet.

It doesn't mean that everybody's going
to agree with the way that I do things.

And that's okay.

I'm always okay with agreeing to disagree.

Um, but I, I do go off of data and,
um, and so, yeah, and that's, that's

the channel where people can learn.

I mean, I'm on Twitter.

I'm on Instagram and I am on
rumble, but the real meat of

everything is always at YouTube.

Un I, I would say almost unfortunately,
because I hate that they censor us.

Um, and you know, I know, but
it is, it's what, it's what?

It's to play the game.

Yeah, exactly.

I, it saddens me.

But

what, and is it through
the YouTube channel?

What, what about people who are like, oh
my gosh, I, I need to get one of these

machines, or learn more about hydro fixx.

How, how, where do they go for that?

Yeah, so if they want to get a
hydro fix, you know, or learn more

about it, the company actually
has their own YouTube channel.

It's called, I think it's
called holy hydrogen.

I think that's what it's called.

That's the website is holy hydrogen.

com.

And so they do have that, but I
believe they have a YouTube channel

and you know, the company that I
support and there's not a ton of them.

So that's the hydrogen company.

Then the water company is
a whole separate company.

Then there's one where I
get all my nutrients from.

And so I only, you know, again, I
only use about four different products

from four different companies.

Cause I've been doing blood work
to make sure that everything

that I've been doing is working.

And so, cause I'm not married to my ideas.

You know, if I'm doing something that
could be improved, I'm gonna do it.

You know, I'm a facts guy.

I'm not an opinion guy.

I don't, I don't, I'm not
married to my opinions.

And, um, and the last time I did blood
work, I mean, I'm not kidding you.

It freaked me out because in the
medical field, you know that you

don't want to get a phone call.

You know that a phone call usually
means something not good, right?

If you don't get a phone call,
it means that everything's okay.

And I got a phone call.

And so I was like, Oh no, you
know, from my latest blood work.

And, uh, but it was the first
time that the doctor basically

had contacted me and said, look,
I took a look at your blood work.

And honestly, I've never
seen anything like it.

She said, I'd like to know what
you're doing because she had her

own family members who are sick.

That's a smart doctor right there.

I always get frustrated when my
clients get better and their doctors

don't ask what they're doing.

Right.

And that happens a lot.

That happens most of the time.

It does.

So kudos to

her for scaring a phone

call.

But once in a while, you do get
those doctors who do want to know.

I mean, I had a Harvard oncologist,
you know, contact me too.

Um, I've had, I've had quite a few
doctors throughout the years who have

contacted me, like, Hey, I want to
learn about what you're doing, you know,

and I want to try to even apply it.

And usually it's because it's either
them or their own family members

who are And it's like almost always.

Um, that's what it is.

Not some random doctor who
nobody's sick and he just wants

to learn, you know, more stuff.

It's always human.

That's, that's usually what motivates us.

So Greg, what is one step
that listeners can take today?

And it could be anything.

It doesn't even have to be something
we've talked about, but if people are

listening, most of them have autoimmunity
or a loved one with autoimmunity, but what

is something you mentioned inflammation
in your story, you know, what is

something listeners can do starting today?

To improve their health.

Well, my own personal opinion is,
and I did have an autoimmune issue

myself, by the way, it was one of
the many things that I had going on.

Sure.

And what, what I have seen, and my
father, it's a terrible example.

I know I shouldn't use it, but
I just think it's important.

When my father started his
hydrogen journey, he didn't

want to change anything.

Now look me, I changed a lot of things.

I changed the way that I eat.

I eliminated things out of my
life, different things like this.

My father didn't want to change anything.

So the

You know, older people, it's
hard to start new habits.

Um, he was willing to do the
clean water with the hydrogen.

And that was it.

He's like, I'm not going to
give up, you know, enjoying my

wine or going out to dinner and
having fried shrimp or whatever.

Like I'm going to live my life.

And I'm like, Oh, dad.

Okay.

Um, but he did just do literally just
the clean water and the hydrogen.

And he said it was super easy.

He's like, all I do is
get up in the morning.

I drink my water.

Like, you know, he just used hype.

You drink water anyway.

And it's clean water with hydrogen.

And that was it.

And I'm not kidding you.

All those conditions that I
talked about are now gone.

The only one that took a while,
because most of the stuff took

about six to eight months or so.

Um, the one that took a while
longer was his glaucoma.

So he had had a glaucoma
for over 30 years.

And I remember there was no
data at the time when we started

the protocol with my father.

And after he has to have
his eyes checked every year.

And on the first year, the eye doctor
was saying, well, you still got glaucoma.

Everything's normal.

Keep taking your eye drops,
you know, your medicine.

Um, the second year.

It was the same result.

And after the second year, I gave
up thinking, okay, it worked out

of all these things that you have.

It worked on everything except glaucoma.

I'm like, it's okay.

Right.

That's okay.

And then he called me on the
third year because he goes,

you're not going to believe this.

And I was like, what?

He goes, I'm at the eye doctor.

And I said, I already know dad
that it doesn't work for glaucoma.

I get, he goes, no, I
just tested negative.

And I was like, what?

And he said, even my eye
doctor doesn't believe it.

And so they brought him back for a retest.

Same result.

They brought him back again.

Same result.

And I think, I think it was
after three or four tests.

They like, okay, this is ridiculous.

We know you have glaucoma.

They're like, we know you have it.

But no, you don't.

And, uh, and sure enough, he doesn't.

And it was unbelievable.

Resolve.

Because they said, I Anyway, as you
get older, it usually gets worse.

And so instead of getting
better, it's untreatable.

And

this is the whole message, the
whole reason I have the podcast,

is because the body can heal.

It is this marvelous, it can heal
when we give the right conditions

and support it and remove the blocks.

And so, I love that story.

And I always love when
something that's impossible.

Me

too.

Me

too.

I love it too.

I, I, I truly, I truly do love hydrates.

I'm so grateful that the Japanese,
you know, were relentless in

their pursuit of figuring all out.

Cause if it wasn't for them, we
really wouldn't know about this.

Well, it's amazing.

And I, you know, I'm a bit
of a data geek as well.

And I love living in the
world of functional medicine.

I know that, you know,
anecdotal means a lot.

We, we see a lot of stuff work that
we don't necessarily have the data

for, but then when something also has
the data behind it, it's like, okay,

this is a, this is a good approach.

Yeah.

And that's what, you know, I got to
say, that's the trickiest part, because

again, looking at the data is one thing.

It's when you start shifting to how
do you make it and how do you use it?

Because the data doesn't
talk about how to make it.

And then, then you get into
engineering and the science of this

whole stuff in a whole different way.

That was the most complicated part of
my whole journey was learning that,

you know, cause the data's there.

I mean, we, we know that
this stuff's amazing.

It's just how do I apply it in my life
that's affordable, that's easy to do, you

know, and it would have ordinarily been
almost impossible, you know, and I will

say I the for a lot of people,
they're going to look and

Hydra fixes is not inexpensive.

It's an investment, but it's a, it's a
huge it's an investment in your health.

And so if you look at.

You know, nobody tends to
look at the cost of illness.

We just focus on, you know, how much
the things that help us be well are.

Um, so, you know what I,

you know what I learned?

I learned something because I
thought exactly what you just said.

I thought, okay, this thing's expensive.

That's what I first remember thinking.

Then when I looked at what it would
cost to make therapeutic super clean

hydrogen, It was off the charts.

Oh, I can't even imagine.

Yeah, we're not talking 50, 000, 100, 000.

Plus the know how,

right?

Exactly.

And the time.

And the, yeah.

It's like, you need a lab.

And so the fact that you need something
so expensive, like you said, the know

how, and then on top of it, you know,
to get something like this for under 2,

500 bucks is actually extremely cheap.

But that wasn't the mentality
that I had originally.

Wow.

And ironically, through the long
research, this is what shocked me.

This is actually the cheapest way.

And the reason it's the cheapest
is because these machines, the

way the Japanese built them is
I've discovered my long research.

So a lot of machines are actually
unreliable, these Chinese machines

and whatever, they they're terrible
actually, and they don't last.

And when this guy built this,
he wanted it to last so long.

They did all these crazy stress
tests for like seven years.

And he said it wouldn't,
it wouldn't break.

They made this thing so good.

And because you use hydrogen
for the longterm, this actually

ends up being the cheapest way.

It's kind of like buying a car that will
go a million miles or something, you know?

Yeah.

No, it's amazing.

It's amazing.

Well, Greg, I cannot thank you enough
for starting our hydrogen conversation.

Um, you just, you've shared so
much knowledge and I appreciate you

also sharing your journey with us.

It's always so inspiring to,
to share the healing stories.

I just really appreciate you.

Yeah.

Well, you're very welcome.

And I really sincerely hope, you
know, other people can overcome

their autoimmune issues too.

I have.

So I know that it's possible.

I

have to, we know it's possible
for everyone listening.

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