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A relatable and honest podcast about the highs and lows of being a youth hockey parent. Join us as we share real stories, struggles, and wins from the rink, offering insights and support for parents navigating the world of youth hockey.
Hey, buddy. Welcome to episode 12.
Scott:Yeah. 12. My goodness. Is it? I don't even
Jamie:I'm pretty sure we're on episode 12.
Scott:I need to go I missed that Who's counting? I missed that day in school.
Jamie:But yeah. Who's counting? But, yeah, man. Episode 12. Yeah.
Jamie:It's crazy, right?
Scott:No. It's amazing.
Jamie:And we are in I don't if you saw. You may not have. We are in London, England now. So we picked up London, England. Hockey over there?
Scott:Yeah, for sure there's hockey there. That's the
Jamie:players, right?
Scott:No, definitely. There was that horrible story about the former NHLer that got his neck cut and passed.
Jamie:He was playing over there?
Scott:Yeah. That
Jamie:was a crazy story, by the way. What did I that that was the guy that threw, like, the karate kick?
Scott:Well, I don't I don't
Jamie:know. It was a pretty dangerous play. Right?
Scott:It's not looking like a hockey play.
Jamie:No. It did not. When you see the replay, like, who does that on the ice?
Scott:I tried also not to watch that replay too many times.
Jamie:No, that reminded me of Clint Malarchuk from
Scott:the same exact Oh my god, so scary.
Jamie:It's a bad parents, do not watch that, especially if you have goalies, my god, or any kid. Do not watch that video. That's why kids are mandatory neck guards now, right? Are they mandatory neck guards? Are youth kids?
Scott:Yeah.
Jamie:They are, right?
Scott:Yeah.
Jamie:Speaking of mandatory, last year was the first time that our kids got thrown off the ice for not having mouth cards in.
Scott:What? Yeah. Where?
Jamie:At the Saints, where we are.
Scott:Wait, that happened once or it happened multiple
Jamie:No, multiple times. Really? Like both teams. With send kids to the dressing room. Really?
Jamie:We were in Utica. And I guess some refs do it more than others. So apparently there's a ref around here, an older gentleman who is really hell bent on kids wearing mouth guards. So if he sees you, he will look at the kids in the face off circle. And if you do not have a mouth guard, he throws those off the ice.
Jamie:Oh, no. I'm sorry. He doesn't throw you off the ice. He will give you a warning, and then he puts you in the box.
Scott:I I don't know what the mouth guard rules are for the AHF, the league that we're both in. Because I will say this, at least maybe for the for the Ay Yeah. They and I could be mistaken, but one of the leagues, there was a rule where you didn't have to wear a mouth guard. It was not mandatory. But if you have a mouth guard in your cage or your fishbowl, then you have to wear it.
Jamie:Oh, can't, Matthew, could chuck it?
Scott:You can't just like
Jamie:put it can't be like chewing it?
Scott:No, guess you could, as long as it's in your mouth to some extent. The point was like, you know, some people just kind of clip it in on the cage or on the sides.
Jamie:And then it sitting here?
Scott:Yeah, you can't.
Jamie:Okay. So it's in so if it's there, you have to have it in your mouth.
Scott:Right. But you you don't need to have it at all. But if you do have it, you have to wear it.
Jamie:Listen. Last year was the first year that I noticed that it was like a thing. Not just Look
Scott:into that.
Jamie:So it we're we're in Utica.
Scott:Yeah.
Jamie:And the ref starts throwing kids off the ice during the game. Like, you see kids going to the bench, climbing over the boards, and going running back to the locker room to get their mouth guards. So what do I do? Like the crazy hockey dad, I run to
Scott:the pro shop To the pro and get like 100.
Jamie:And I bought like 10 of them.
Scott:Right.
Jamie:And I brought them down to the coach. I'm like, here. Just keep them handy in case somebody doesn't have one. Right.
Scott:That was a good call. Heads up call. Good job.
Jamie:I bought them out of all mouth guards.
Scott:Yeah. Well, listen, I would too if we were in that situation.
Jamie:So I guess I don't know if it's mandatory, certain refs
Scott:I don't look into that now.
Jamie:Yeah. Certain refs are pretty serious about it.
Scott:Okay.
Jamie:And speaking of neck guards, Dominic's always worn his neck guard.
Scott:Yeah, likewise with auto.
Jamie:Yeah, but I don't like the one where you just Velcro on.
Scott:You like the one that's built into the shirt.
Jamie:Dom's got the shirt, the bowler shirt, now he's got the Warroad.
Scott:Oh, yeah, yeah.
Jamie:Speaking of Warroad, their shirt, it's not cheap.
Scott:Is Kiyoshi? No, it's
Jamie:not Not cheap.
Scott:Not cheap.
Jamie:Not cheap at all. I want to say it's like $190 for the youth. But it's built pretty well, not going to lie.
Scott:I would hope so for that kind of money.
Jamie:Yeah, yeah. Again, not cheap, but it works. Again, the Bauer two. Dom's had it on since he's like a mite.
Scott:Yeah, Otto, you know actually
Jamie:I don't like the Velcro one.
Scott:I don't know. I actually take that back. When Otto was, he didn't wear a neck guard when he was mites. I think only once we started score, maybe full ice mites.
Jamie:Really?
Scott:He had like two years, right? Don't think he wore one.
Jamie:I want to say like
Scott:very first two years.
Jamie:Yeah. Well, because when I was with you when we were younger, saw that Clint Malartchuk video. And I was like, yeah.
Scott:That's a the way
Jamie:Parents, do not go watch that video.
Scott:Spitting Chiclets. I had a great interview with him.
Jamie:Who was that? I
Scott:think it came I don't know. Maybe it was his calendar year or maybe it was
Jamie:Was it coming up on an anniversary of him or something like that?
Scott:Last year. Like a twenty year? Don't even know. Pretty year. But nonetheless, he's a Recently?
Scott:He's a fast within the last twelve months for sure on spitting chocolates.
Jamie:Got it. That was a crazy video.
Scott:Crazy video. But he's a crazy story, just his path and how he stayed in and just different times. Different times for sure. But anyway, thank God.
Jamie:He's all right.
Scott:He was all right. Yeah, that was scary.
Jamie:Wasn't there a kid in Connecticut also?
Scott:Come on, this is not we should probably. Sorry.
Jamie:Yeah. Sorry. Sorry. Well, my point is
Scott:But the answer is yes.
Jamie:Just wear just wear a neck Yeah. Go and just spend spend the extra dollars and go buy the one that's built into the shirt.
Scott:And that's it. Yeah.
Jamie:Because you can't forget that. Like you can't lose it in your bag. Like you go to the rink with your base layers on and it's built into the shirt.
Scott:Yeah. You know
Jamie:what I mean? Bauer's got them. CCM, I'm sure, has them. Warroad, we know have them, obviously, right? Yeah.
Jamie:Again, just safety is huge, especially for our kids, right? Yes. But yeah, so we're across the pond in London, England. We added what else did we add? We added Hawaii.
Jamie:Aloha.
Scott:Aloha. Yes. Aloha to you.
Jamie:And we added North Carolina. We're 32 states or something like that now. Nice. Yeah. No more Canadian provinces yet.
Jamie:Come on, Canada.
Scott:Let's go.
Jamie:Four more to go. Four more to go. Come on.
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Scott:Yeah, listen, just anyone that you know out of state, ask them to listen to it out of your state.
Jamie:But we appreciate you listening. If you like what you hear, go write a review. We really would appreciate that too. And we actually have some news about our podcast
Scott:We do.
Jamie:Which we did not share last episode because we weren't sure how it was going to go.
Scott:It went well enough.
Jamie:It did go well enough, didn't So we now, are this is episode 12. Episode 11 is up on YouTube. Live on YouTube. So now we're
Scott:doing Not live.
Jamie:It's not live?
Scott:Well, oh, I mean, it's like, quote unquote, live.
Jamie:I don't mean, like We're not live. We're not streaming it. We could stream it live, though. That's something we could do moving forward.
Scott:We could try.
Jamie:We I mean, listen. Might as well.
Scott:See what happens? Yeah. Listen. Whatever.
Jamie:Yeah. We'll give it a go.
Scott:But, yes, it is quote, unquote live.
Jamie:Episode 11 is
Scott:It's up and available.
Jamie:Live on YouTube. Crazy hockey dads, one word, since the algorithm hasn't found us yet. So if you type in with space, it's tough to find. But CrazyHockeyDads, one word, our logo will pop up in there. And this episode will be up there along with episode 11.
Scott:Yeah.
Jamie:We're going keep doing I'll tell everyone. An audio yeah, an audio and a video. So if you want to see our ugly faces, turn into YouTube and go subscribe to our YouTube channel so you can actually see what we look like.
Scott:Yeah, that's a really that's a great hook. That was excellent.
Jamie:Hey, listen. That's what I'm here for. So so in in today's episode, we are going to talk about how youth hockey sucks around here.
Scott:That's not good.
Jamie:And I'm not I'm I'm being I'm I'm You're
Scott:not being fair.
Jamie:I'm obviously busting chops. I'm I'm I'm Well, the topic is how youth hockey is watered down.
Scott:Yeah, or it can be watered down for sure. Don't you share how this came up for you this past week?
Jamie:So Friday night, we're outside and Dominic was actually shooting in the driveway.
Scott:Okay, yeah, yeah.
Jamie:Okay? So we're shooting in the driveway and our goalie's dad just happened to text me. Going to a three v three, three on three, we're short players. Does Dominic want to play? I'll come pick him up in five minutes, literally five minutes.
Jamie:Okay? And he lives five minutes from my house, so literally five minutes.
Scott:He was on his way. Right.
Jamie:Yeah. So now you know me. I don't like doing spring teams.
Scott:Right.
Jamie:Right? So this was a spring team. This was a spring league that they asked us to play in and I said no because I like to do training instead, right? And I didn't know what I was okaying when I said I turned Oh. Yeah, just thought it was a regular pickup 3v3.
Jamie:Not like it was yeah. What was It it it does not matter, you know? But the three v three pickup may have been a little more competitive
Scott:than this. Okay.
Jamie:So so so this three v three league he picks Dominic up. I turn to Dominic McDonough. I'm like, you want to go play three v three with your goalie? He's like, sure, dad. Okay.
Jamie:So when the dad gets here, he's like, do want to come, Jamie? I'm like, yeah, sure. I'll come hang out with you guys.
Scott:So you hopped in the cartoon.
Jamie:So I jumped in, yeah.
Scott:So I
Jamie:jumped in. So we go over to the rink. And for those of you that don't know, it's probably a very appropriate 3v3 rink because it's a smaller It's sheet. It's like a studio sheet, right, wouldn't you say?
Scott:I don't know how big it is, but it's yeah, it's small.
Jamie:It's small, right? So number one, they were playing their 20 twelve's. They were playing Girls AAA 11s.
Scott:Okay.
Jamie:Okay?
Scott:Yeah.
Jamie:I guess that was another team that was entered into this league and that's who was on the schedule.
Scott:Okay. Okay?
Jamie:So they dropped the puck. And I heard before the game, before I get into it, that I heard that these girls were pretty good and they always wind up waxing these kids.
Scott:Oh, yeah. It's two thirds scale. Oh, it's two thirds scale. Okay. One twenty by 60.
Jamie:Okay. Nice.
Scott:Alright. So it's not
Jamie:I mean I mean, it's not small, but it's not full size either. No. Right? I mean, it's good for training. Right?
Jamie:I mean, that's what it's used for.
Scott:Yeah. No.
Jamie:Really good for training. Yep. Yeah. So so they game starts. Okay?
Jamie:And we wind up getting be it, like, twenty one to nine. Wow. Yeah.
Scott:You got hammered. Hammered. Absolutely wait. How many
Jamie:kids are how
Scott:many kids are on the bench?
Jamie:So there were there were six, two lines of three.
Scott:Okay. So it was going on every other.
Jamie:The girls had 12 kids. So they had four lines of three. They clearly have played together for a very long time because they were spaced out. They obviously knew what they were doing. So 21.9, Dominic had nine.
Scott:No.
Jamie:But then after the game, I'm watching and I'm kind of going through my mind what I just watched. And then the goalie dad was telling me, he's like, Jamie, was telling me what teams the kids that just played with Dominic, right, what teams they made for next year.
Scott:So it was Dom and his goalie and those are the only two kids from Correct. Your winter team. Correct. Okay. And then the rest were from other clubs.
Scott:Correct. Okay. Got it.
Jamie:Yes. Exactly right. Right. Okay? So he was telling me what teams these kids were were gonna be on next year, what teams they tried out for, what teams they made.
Jamie:Uh-huh. What I'm seeing with my eyes Yeah. And what I'm hearing with my ears are not jiving.
Scott:No, there's a gap perhaps. Big. Big one. Like, yeah. Like, So
Jamie:the topic of today's podcast is the watered down youth hockey, especially in our area. I wonder in other areas if it's watered down because the demand for youth hockey in our area is so massive. It's so massive. Yeah. Right?
Jamie:I mean, we know clubs that have multiple AAA teams in the same birth year, right?
Scott:Well, yeah. I think the I mean, part of the problem for sure is why it's like the club model. And because of that, there's always a need. I say always a need, but you're always gonna have coaches or organizations scouting, recruiting, trying to pull players here, there, you know, and along with this to make organizations more attractive. I I and I think this is on the leagues, but how they allow certain teams to enter in what would be a quote unquote triple a team or a double a team.
Scott:I mean, the organization is somewhat responsible for I mean, on the one level, the clubs are doing it to make money.
Jamie:Listen, yes.
Scott:And it attracts more people. No question. And then the leagues themselves are the ones that are ultimately approving this to happen.
Jamie:Sure they are.
Scott:So let me ask you this, would it still be watered down if, You know what? What I was going to say was if there wasn't so many AAA teams.
Jamie:So I think that multiple AAA teams, I think it crushes everything else under it. I'll give you an example. Connecticut. They have a AAA premier team,
Scott:which is good, like top Wait, just so I'm clear though, but when you say premier, it
Jamie:the elite? Premier is like the top Right.
Scott:So premier or elite.
Jamie:Right. So a bunch of clubs now in our area have a premier team, is the top triple a team.
Scott:Yep.
Jamie:Then they have like a triple a elite because yo yo parents are like, my kid needs to play triple a.
Scott:Wait. This whole Premier thing is a little bit news to me for the younger age groups. I've seen it for the older age groups, certainly with like if I'm checking out the 16.
Jamie:So our Rockets team from a couple years ago, we were a AAA premier team. There was a AAA elite under us. That AAA team under us was a AA team. They had no business playing AAA. They got buried every time they played.
Scott:What's interesting when you say that because at least within the 2014 birth year, if you look at my hockey rankings, a lot of the clubs, let's just take, I don't know
Jamie:You'll see them. You'll see them.
Scott:Like the Terriers, for example, the Boston Junior Terriers. Right? They have their elite team, and then they have teams below it. But elite, from what I've seen up until now, has always been the top level. There hasn't been elite and then a Okay,
Jamie:so now there's a premier. So you're saying it's
Scott:like triple A premier, then triple A elite, and then triple A before you even get down to double A?
Jamie:I don't think there's No, I think it's just premier and I don't think there's a a third tier of AAA. If there is, it's it's not good.
Scott:Well, they they have that, but that's how the Connecticut team does it. There's tier there's, like, their AAA t one team.
Jamie:You're not talking Mid Fairfield. Yeah. So they're not even associated with them.
Scott:Who's not associated with them?
Jamie:Mid Fairfield's not associated with CJR.
Scott:But I'm not talking about CJR.
Jamie:Oh, Okay.
Scott:Because there's a second Mid Fairfield team.
Jamie:That's the hold on. We're talking about two different teams now. The real Mid Fairfield is a very good team. The Mid Fairfield you're talking about that plays in leagues is the old Hartford Wolfpack or the old, what are they called? They played out of So No up in Connecticut.
Jamie:I'm drawing a blank on what it was. So They were bought out but that's not a But that's a perfect example though because they have a AAA team. Yeah. Right? And it's not good.
Scott:But it's not Elite or Premier. It's just AAA?
Jamie:No, but the good Mid Fairfield team in the 12 berth year is not affiliated with them.
Scott:No, I understand. Yeah. Okay, maybe that was a bad example. Right. But going back to the There plenty of other clubs where I never knew that, where elite was always the highest.
Scott:And what I'm learning now about Premier, it seems like that, yeah, that's crazy.
Jamie:So our Rockets team had a Premier AAA, and then they had an Elite AAA. That Elite AAA should have been a AA team, and everything else from there should been fallen below. So you should have had our team, then you had AA team, and
Scott:then a single A and so on and so forth. And so why is it not that way?
Jamie:Because people want their kids to play AAA. They will go the organization is just providing an avenue for yo yo parents.
Scott:It's telling parents what they want to hear. Correct.
Jamie:That's all
Scott:it is. So they come to their organization.
Jamie:Well, they're providing what the parent is looking for.
Scott:No, I understand that.
Jamie:Yeah. Listen, I don't know who's I don't want say at fault. That's not the right word. But I don't know who is again, not to blame, that's not the right word. But I'm trying to figure out how you fix this.
Scott:Well, I mean, I think the community model that is not the standard here in this country is definitely a rem Does Minnesota do that? Yeah. They do, right? That's they're
Jamie:Yeah, anybody from Minnesota, write us. Us know how you guys are kind of structured. I'm very curious.
Scott:I'm pretty sure that they have the like, play for the town or the
Jamie:Right, whatever your geographic location. Whatever team is in your right.
Scott:Right. That's what you yeah.
Jamie:Listen, that's, in my opinion, probably a better way to do it because I have to tell you, it just it crushes. Because now, I mean, a perfect example is that CJR team, they have a CJR Premier and then they have a AAA Elite. I don't think they won a game last year, like not one. Why aren't they a AA team playing in a AA league?
Scott:That is a great question. And I think that is part of the problem. Again, the demand is there.
Jamie:There's no question about
Scott:Well, listen, we both took our kids down from AAA team down to AA. And for me, the change in, I guess, the number of tier one versus tier two. Like in this case, there's definitely a difference between the two clubs. However, Otto could have gone to a different AAA team that is not that great, but he still could have been playing quote unquote AAA. And is it worth the additional money?
Scott:Is it worth the additional effort, energy to play on something that's still called AAA but is really not that great?
Jamie:I mean, think about it. Mean, I was on that team that's AAA that really is supposed to be a AA team and you're paying AAA rates for it, that's not a good situation.
Scott:No, and if your team's getting mopped every week?
Jamie:Yeah. I mean, does that do?
Scott:Look, I think there's one argument that you could say that, Okay, know that this is going to be a tough year, but week in and week out, you're going be playing better competition and just by virtue of playing better competition, you guys are going to get better. No, that's not a great sell if that's, you know, right?
Jamie:I mean
Scott:For you, would it be? I mean, would depend who the coaches are. It would depend on maybe what practice is gonna look like. But, you know, if someone's trying to sell me a club Yeah. For Otto to play on and I knew it was I'd rather I mean at that point, I don't the AAA thing kind of goes out the window.
Jamie:Don't you think there's a bunch of AAA programs out there that should not be having AAA teams?
Scott:Yeah, but the so I think what becomes difficult also is that there's few organizations in the country that actually have
Jamie:box Like a real AAA team.
Scott:Like the whole org is like a
Jamie:AAA Yeah, no, you're not wrong. It varies in birth year. There's no question.
Scott:And so you have AAA this year for the year 12.
Jamie:No, no, you're not wrong.
Scott:The following year
Jamie:that that squad could be There's no question.
Scott:So are you going to withdraw and enter every year of AAA versus, you know what I mean?
Jamie:Yes. You're not wrong. I guess my point is that I think there's too much youth hockey in our area. Like, there's too many teams. Think about it.
Jamie:Think about the amount of teams that are an hour driving from where we are right now.
Scott:There are a lot. Would you say 10? But I don't know if it's too much. The problem I
Jamie:don't know either.
Scott:I mean, look, want to have teams for people to play. You have full teams everywhere, I
Jamie:said last week on the podcast, every kid should have a landing spot if they want to play this game. Whether it's AAA, AA, single A, or B. Is there B hockey? Is that a thing?
Scott:I think so.
Jamie:Is there? Okay. You know, so I think everybody should have a landing spot, but I also think that because of our area, I think there's just way too many teams. There's a lot of teams in our area, and they just keep popping up.
Scott:Right. So here my question is, watered down hockey is how much of it is because of the number of teams versus the miscategorization of teams? Because if you truly had skill playing the same skill level and they were appropriately grouped into the right divisions within the leagues, Maybe it's a maybe it's a too many league problem.
Jamie:Alright. Let me ask you this. How many teams take, like, I don't know, 20 kids on their team? They just pack out the roster?
Scott:Dude, that's a great question because honestly, I don't know.
Jamie:Right. How how many how many times have you seen a bench that's just loaded with kids?
Scott:Yeah. But do you the Like, 12 forwards. No. You don't.
Jamie:10 forwards. I've seen a bunch of them.
Scott:You do? Yeah. No. I haven't.
Jamie:Where they just load out the roster.
Scott:If anything, I
Jamie:think they're And crushes everything else below that. You've seen, like, lean. Listen.
Scott:There's some I've seen more lean than I've seen
Jamie:There are some lean too. There's no question. Right. It goes the other way as well. I've seen both.
Jamie:I've seen lean, and I've seen a packed out bench where you can't even see there's no spot. There's no room on the bench. So again, I don't know the answer. But I do know that what I saw on Friday night and then I found out what level they were going to be playing at, that is not supposed to be.
Scott:We can You know? Well, listen, I think with that particular example, like when you have within certain geographic areas where you're kind of, let's say, all let's say there's several rinks that are all vying or pulling
Jamie:Yeah, from the same group people. Yeah,
Scott:sure. Once you run out of top talent Listen,
Jamie:But but do you need to put two triple A teams on the ice in the same building? Well. Right? How many berth years have
Scott:multiple Multiple triple A teams
Jamie:or multiple double A teams. You know how many times I've seen two AAA teams same birth year, two AA teams same birth year? In Dominic's birth year right now, they keep loading up. They're trying to make it a new So
Scott:haven't encountered that, but I'm imagining that, like, if you're an organization and you tell what would be the double a team, hey, listen. Come play for our org. We're gonna play triple a. Even though that instead of going to play double a, come here. Yes, it's gonna be the lower of the two triple a teams.
Scott:Right. It'll be more like this would have maybe ordinarily been a double a team, but what we're gonna do here is we're gonna play triple a so that your kids get the experience of playing, better talent.
Jamie:So what happens if you just get buried for a 40 game season?
Scott:Well, listen.
Jamie:You don't win one game because you don't belong where you are.
Scott:Dude, well, I mean, that's obviously part of the Again,
Jamie:I don't know what the answer is.
Scott:There's no way that these AAA teams are balanced, right? Like one's definitely the better of the two, right? Or you're telling me that
Jamie:No, no, like an organization will
Scott:try to create parity between No, no, no. I've never
Jamie:seen that. No, I've never seen I've that. But I have to tell you, what that also does, by the way, when you have two AAA teams that are decent in the same birth year, that creates issues, major issues, like with their Oh,
Scott:because your kid's on the lower versus
Jamie:the higher Major issues with parents. I've seen matter of fact, my godson, when he was playing Hackensack Yeah. There were two AAA teams, and that did not go well. Like, there was I also saw with the Rockets with the o nines. Yeah.
Jamie:Same thing. Two triple a teams. That didn't it it does not sit well with people. It doesn't go well. But people want to play triple a, so they you can't call one a triple a and one a double a because people get bent out of shape.
Scott:Yeah. Listen. So at the end of a season, if your kid who is playing the lower of the two doesn't get called to the upper one
Jamie:Yeah.
Scott:Yeah. I don't know, man. I mean like the
Jamie:I don't either.
Scott:So I think part of the watered down ness of it is for sure that there's clubs calling a certain team, you know, they're playing tier one or they're double A instead of single A. They're doing it to maybe tell parents what they want to hear about their kid or it's like a marketing thing. But if the I don't think there would be as much watered downness if there was a better job putting teams of equal skill sets against each other. And then that comes down to the leagues ultimately. And I think though the AHF, they do these parody events and I think in part that's to understand Where people belong.
Scott:Where they belong but still it's They're still lopsided. Still lopsided. Yeah.
Jamie:Again, I don't know what the right answer is. I don't have the answer but I feel like hockey in our area is just getting more and more watered down.
Scott:Okay.
Jamie:And listen, you know what that could be? Maybe I'm wrong about this but I also think that maybe that could be some kids that used to be playing ice hockey. As they get older, they're playing ice hockey and baseball and lacrosse and they're dropping ice hockey. So maybe when they were younger, they needed all those teams. They needed a lot of teams in a birth year.
Jamie:And as kids are dropping the sport to go play full time baseball, full time lacrosse, or focus more on baseball, whatever it is. Right? And maybe maybe at the up at the upper ages, maybe that's a thing. Maybe at the upper ages, things thin out. I don't know.
Jamie:I honestly don't know
Scott:the answer. So you're saying potentially for Dom now that he's up like, gone up to U14 now, right, that you're saying that at the higher level perhaps you're gonna see you're experiencing it more because there's less less of
Jamie:So I I remember when we were in when we were in building in Hackensack, there were a there were a lot of teams. There were multiple AA teams. There were multiple single A teams in a birth year, okay? And as they got older, as the kids kind of were going up in age through the organization, they started just kind of killing teams. So they were going from two to one, from three to two.
Jamie:Instead of having three AA teams, had two or As the kids got older, I don't know if I don't know. Maybe it's all cyclical, Scott. Maybe that it goes the numbers kind of ebb and flow. So maybe they're really heavy for a couple of years. And listen, I'm sure every organization is different, right?
Jamie:Every organization has different waves of kids going through it. So certain birth years obviously are heavier than others in certain times in history. But I don't know. Again, don't know the answer. I do know that when I saw Friday
Scott:Yeah.
Jamie:And when I heard where they were playing, I was scratching my head.
Scott:Well, it sounds like there there might be a situation where there was a team that had didn't have a full roster and they maybe needed to just
Jamie:Just pack it out.
Scott:Get enough bodies on the team, which happens. It does. Obviously.
Jamie:It certainly does.
Scott:Right. So then the question then becomes like, why doesn't that organization just put forward a double 18 as opposed to forcing a triple 18?
Jamie:Correct.
Scott:Right.
Jamie:Yeah. And I'm not saying that these kids were gonna go play triple a, but I think they were gonna be playing at a level that they did not belong in. So my guess is that year is not going to go well, which is a shame.
Scott:It is. Yeah. And that's an odd thing year over year if you have a team that doesn't have a solid core or is not, for whatever reason, not either able to attract talent or whatever the deal is. Yeah, you end up with teams that are just, listen, every year someone's got to be the worst team in the league. The bottom three teams in the league.
Jamie:No, you're right.
Scott:That just happens. But I think the real discrepancy between the bottom and the top is where it starts to get, I think, where these what's why am I blanking right now? The the water down, like, you'll see that more. For example, not last year, the year before the league we were playing in. Mhmm.
Scott:Like we were in the top, you know, I think we finished first two years ago and Right. Whatever it was. In any event, but the bottom teams in our league, they were throwaway games. So you're gonna win by double digits.
Jamie:Right.
Scott:That's at least what you're expecting. But then, so there's maybe, it's like a three horse race in the one league out of like 18.
Jamie:Just a handful of teams actually are going
Scott:to give each other competition. And the rest is like pretty much a guaranteed win. But what I'll say though is that geographically speaking, when if you go up to Massachusetts, same birth year, like the the I don't wanna say the majority, but a large number of the kids that are playing elite hockey out of Mass like Boston, Massachusetts.
Jamie:Yeah. Yeah.
Scott:That's mean. Like, a bunch of those teams are top 10 in the country.
Jamie:No question
Scott:about And so week in and week out, they're playing top teams in the country.
Jamie:They I think I think those teams have a larger pool of kids to choose from because you're talking about like Boston, Rhode Island, you know, New Hampshire. I think that's a different geographic pull. I just think there's more hockey players up there.
Scott:So that's Right? Know if we talked about it, I definitely had this conversation, not so recently, but just talking about why there's not better hockey in the South.
Jamie:In the South. Like we're talking like South Carolina?
Scott:Just hear me out for a second. Yeah. So if you look at the number of Cups, Stanley Cups that were in Florida over the last decade, right, there's been a lot between
Jamie:the Lightning and the And the Panthers, yeah, sure.
Scott:And so you have very strong professional sports teams, like hockey teams out of the South. Yeah, yeah. Even Carolina's been really good.
Jamie:Yeah, Carolina's, yeah.
Scott:So as you make your way South to North, there's probably more Cups in the South than there are in the North, yet
Jamie:Over the last couple of years.
Scott:No, no, Obviously, I'm talking about professional players. But I'm just saying there's at least good hockey happening where you can energize Professional hockey. Professionally. You can get people excited, blah, It
Jamie:fosters the game, the youth game in those areas.
Scott:Right, correct. Then we're talking about why do you have better youth hockey further north and there's such a gap. And one of the things we were thinking about was that just because of the warmer weather and people wanting to be outdoors versus the colder weather you have in the winter, ponds frozen, you're going to have the better athletes, the better Forget the sports specific
Jamie:stuff, better athletes are Football, basketball, baseball, they're playing ice In
Scott:the North compared to in the South where you have like Football, basketball, better athletes or Right.
Jamie:No, you're right. No, no, you're absolutely right about that.
Scott:And that doesn't necessarily speak to hockey being watered down. But just talking about how people end up playing hockey and I don't know.
Jamie:Listen, it's no. I mean, that's a good point. Although I do think it's changing slowly, like I know that South Carolina around the Charleston area, they have a youth hockey team. I want to say they call it the Raids or something like that.
Scott:Very nice.
Jamie:And even in college, I'm pretty sure that UNC and Duke and the University of Alabama, they're exploring putting in a Division I team.
Scott:Isn't UNLV Division I Are
Jamie:they? Were they last year? I could be wrong. Listen, I know they keep adding every year. I mean, they added didn't just get added last year, like two years ago?
Jamie:There's a bunch of teams are getting added. Listen, look Arizona State. Look at Penn State a couple of years ago, right? Yeah. I mean, they're putting together listen, all these schools have huge dollars.
Jamie:So to spend or to get a donor to put money up for a $75,000,000 1 hundred million dollars facility to put a D1 program in is not difficult. They have the space. They have the funding. They have the money. Might as well.
Jamie:Mean, so I think you're going to see over the next couple of years, over the next ten, fifteen, twenty years, you're going to see a lot of Southern schools start to put together a D1 men's ice hockey. Seriously.
Scott:Look, and they will
Jamie:It'll be awesome. It'll be awesome.
Scott:Yeah. And as there's, again, kind of jumping between different topics somewhat, but I would often talk to my buddy. We followed Manchester United. And when the big name would be up for like a transfer, was looking to move teams. And there would be like Barcelona, Real Madrid.
Jamie:It's all the big names.
Scott:Manchester, Manchester yeah, But then when you think about you know, you're a professional athlete, you're wanted by all these top clubs, they're all going to pay you top dollar. At some point, where do I want to live kick in? Would you rather live in Madrid or Barcelona or would you rather live in Manchester, England?
Jamie:I guess it depends where you grew up and how you grew up.
Scott:I would agree.
Jamie:Right? But I don't think I'd want to live in Manchester.
Scott:Madrid or Madrid. Right. So like and and again, I don't think this I don't know how much of a driver it will be for potentially even, like, college athletes or now that the Canadian juniors, you know, that
Jamie:can play division one
Scott:hockey. I mean, oh, I can go play d one down in Arizona or I can play d one in wherever. Like, that might be nice.
Jamie:Can you that Arizona State team? Yeah. I mean, what a setup that is. I mean, they put a massive amount of money into their facility. And you go on the ice, then you go hang out by the pool.
Jamie:In like 80 degree weather?
Scott:That's what I'm saying.
Jamie:What a sick setup for a college kid. If you're a decent hockey player, how do you not go there to
Scott:take you a full But then you also have like again, now jumping around again a little bit. But with the increased number of D1 programs, is that not also diluting D1 hockey? It is. So I mean
Jamie:There's no question yet.
Scott:It is. To what end? Do you just dilute it enough until all of a sudden you drop your lowest ranking and reshuffle the org chart?
Jamie:I don't. I don't know.
Scott:You know what I mean?
Jamie:Again, like I said, I don't know the answer.
Scott:But let me ask you this. Can I switch a little bit or
Jamie:Yeah, no, no, go ahead? No, no, no, no. I don't know the answer. I was trying to think of a smart thing to say and I don't have one.
Scott:Oh, well, not the first time I shut the fuck up. Yeah, what do you want to switch to? So my question is, Okay, so as a hockey parent and we just had this conversation about diluted youth hockey and tier one versus tier two or even like single versus AA, if I'm a parent, right, at what point does it really matter, AAA versus AA, single A versus AA?
Jamie:As a parent?
Scott:Yeah. I mean, like if you're looking
Jamie:It doesn't matter.
Scott:But does it some like, on on some level, it matters.
Jamie:You know, I was talking to a friend of mine the other day. So I was talking to a buddy of mine. Yeah. Go ahead. We go ahead.
Jamie:I don't wanna
Scott:No. I'm so sorry. I just what I wanted to make clear was not necessarily that it matters from, like, how it's gonna it's not gonna determine where your kid ends up long run.
Jamie:Mhmm.
Scott:But as a parent, looking for your kid to play what is quote unquote the best hockey. Yeah. You know, then there's, you do know of those triple A teams that are just like, you there you look at my hockey rankings, you know what are the top teams. But if you're looking at a triple A team that's like way down in the rankings, like at some point, that that can't carry that much weight that it's still a triple a team when you might have a double a team near that's like comparable. That's better.
Jamie:That can beat
Scott:them. That can beat them.
Jamie:Yeah. Happens all the time.
Scott:So when we talk about like navigating this space of is it a watered down AAA team? Is there a local team that's AA that's better? Just because it's AAA, do I sign up for it because it's AAA and then I'm part of that circle or that club and when I go to look for another team, can say I play AAA. Ultimately, it's the development, your child's development, that should be prioritized. But through that, there's all these other variables
Jamie:No, no, there are.
Scott:And you don't always have you're not always choosing or you don't always have choice in terms of the best coach versus the right number of letters versus the development model, whatever. So what are your thoughts about kind of Not prioritizing per se, but kind of just navigating the different variables.
Jamie:So I'm kind of torn because on one hand, I was talking to a friend of mine the other day whose son plays on our old Rockets team, and he is a very large boy.
Scott:Yeah. Okay.
Jamie:Like one of the biggest twenty twelve's I've seen. He's very big. And listen, his dad is six'six. So his dad
Scott:He's got big genes.
Jamie:Oh my god. His mom's tall too actually now that I think about it. He's going be a very large, large boy. And he kind of came into his own last year, which is awesome. So he will get found because of his size and the team he plays on.
Jamie:He plays on a very high level team. But him and I were chatting last week and he made a comment, which I think is correct. He says, No matter where you are, they will find you. If you're good enough, they will find you.
Scott:They'll find you.
Jamie:Which I agree with.
Scott:Yes.
Jamie:Okay, I do agree with that. But then I ran into a thing the other day that I saw, I want to say it was on Instagram. It was a guy who played college Did he play pro baseball for a couple years or maybe he had like a cup of coffee in Major League Baseball but he was a very high level D1.
Scott:That an expression?
Jamie:What, a cup of coffee? Yeah. Yeah, you never heard that? No. You don't watch a lot of baseball, do you?
Scott:No.
Jamie:Yeah, guess not.
Scott:Yeah, Yeah, well there's enough times to drink coffee playing baseball. It's so boring.
Jamie:I mean, listen, at the youth level, yes. At the youth level, thank God my kid DK baseball or T ball
Scott:when
Scott:he was
Jamie:Wait,
Scott:so the expression of like flirting or sticking your toes in
Jamie:the A cup of coffee is like they speak to you or you're in their minor league or they have a conversation with you or a scout talks to you or talks to your parents. It's called having a cup of coffee.
Scott:And you can do
Jamie:Or you were in their minor league system for a very short period of time. It's called a cup of coffee.
Scott:Got it. Got
Jamie:it. Yeah.
Scott:But do you ever use that expression with other sports?
Jamie:Yeah. I do. It's a short it's like a short stint. Go ahead. Google it.
Jamie:A short it's like a it's like a short stint, but it's generally, I think it's a a baseball
Scott:Baseball term. Term. Got it. Okay. So having cups of coffee.
Jamie:Yeah. So having yeah. So where was I even going with that? Where even where did that come from?
Scott:What are we
Jamie:talking about? I lost my entire train of thought. Thanks.
Scott:Yeah, of course. It's my We were talking about the best kids being found.
Jamie:Okay. All right. So he's got a big kid. So his kid's already found. And there was the baseball player.
Jamie:So I'm torn between that on one end where those kids are kind of more high profile kids. They will be found no matter what. And I do think that other kids that are playing on lesser teams will also be found if you have the ability level. I do think you will be found. So I'm torn between but then I hear this guy who played D1 baseball and he says that one of the things that he so he would go out and he would hit baseballs, he would work out, he would do everything that he needed to do.
Jamie:He would field ground balls. He would do everything he needed to do to try to make it to the show. But what he said that he missed out on looking back on it, he said that he didn't have the high level reps, enough high level reps. So if he had to do it all over again, he would have gone to a more competitive team. Maybe wouldn't have played as much, but he would have had more high level reps because he was missing the high level reps when he actually saw that he was reaching whatever his pinnacle was.
Jamie:He didn't have the high level reps.
Scott:High level reps.
Jamie:So my question is, and we've talked about this before, do you want to be the tenth forward on a heavy duty AAA team and not get a lot of puck touches and not play special teams? Or do you want to go to a lesser AAA team where you're going get a truckload of puck touches, but maybe not the high level reps? Yeah. I don't know what the answer is. So I'm torn now.
Scott:So I think that that's interesting. And I think it might be depending on the kid's age, would have a different answer for the question. So I think at the younger ages
Jamie:Well, at younger age, I don't think it matters.
Scott:Right. So Okay. So then at what age are you
Jamie:I don't know. 13, 14, 15?
Scott:So kind of where Dom is on the cusp of where Dom Yes, come here.
Jamie:Just turned 13, so coming soon?
Scott:Look, I I think I I think a lot has to do with kind of where your kid's at in their game at that point. Right? So I think like if, for example, your kid is on a on a high level team and is just not getting the the number of, like, puck touches or they're not getting the right like, the number of shifts playing time.
Jamie:Mhmm.
Scott:Right? They're not getting as much playing time as you'd like. But they've been proving year over year that it takes them a year to get acclimated and the following year they bust through They break out. If your kid is like, you see their game has been going in the opposite direction, like it's affecting confidence, like perhaps it just being on that higher level team is not well for them, I guess maybe like mindset wise. I think those are things I would want to evaluate first before I started saying like, okay, there's an equal playing field, you know what I mean?
Jamie:Yeah, I don't know, man. Don't know the answer. Time will tell but I do not know the answer. Yeah. Know?
Jamie:Like I wish I had a definitive thing to tell the audience. I am not sure.
Scott:I think a lot depends on your kid, honestly. Especially when you get older, you'll know more clearly what part of the game. I think not surely there's going to be toss-up situations. But I think it really depends on, again, where the kids at. Wait, what are laughing at?
Jamie:Sorry. Was you said Shirley. Shirley?
Scott:It reminded me of Don't call me Shirley? The line from the movie Airplane.
Jamie:Of course, I'm serious. And stop calling me Shirley. Or don't call me
Scott:Frank Drebin.
Jamie:I've been Nordberg?
Scott:Swimming raw sewage. And I love
Jamie:it. I
Scott:love it. Look. It's Enrico Palazzo. Enrico. Enrico.
Scott:Sorry, folks. So good.
Jamie:Anyway. Alright. So do you want me should we move on to the NHL a little bit? What are you thinking?
Scott:Yeah.
Jamie:Actually, have a question for you
Scott:first.
Jamie:Otto got a Blade Tech stick.
Scott:Right? Truth.
Jamie:I know we talked about it two podcasts ago, right after Dom got his. Dominic loves his.
Scott:Yes.
Jamie:So Otto got his Blade Tech. Yes. Give me your and you got the same one, Dominic. Same size, same blade, same curve, same flex.
Scott:Totally copied Dom.
Jamie:Okay.
Scott:And? He likes it a lot.
Jamie:He does.
Scott:But so
Jamie:Is his shot any different from a, obviously, a kid's perspective, but from a parent's perspective, you see anything different?
Scott:So to be honest with you, he's able to intentionally flex the stick.
Jamie:You see it?
Scott:For sure. Well, let's just be clear. He went way down
Jamie:in my possession He went like a 40 to like a 25.
Scott:Yes, went way down.
Jamie:So let me ask you a question. When he catches hard passes, do they go through the stick or he's good to go?
Scott:He's so far good to go. Don't know how many hard passes he's had to catch, if I'm being honest.
Jamie:Got it. Got it. Okay.
Scott:I wish there were more hard passes. Listen, I'll tell you this much. I shot with it.
Jamie:Did you?
Scott:Yeah, I mean, just lightly.
Jamie:But the flex, you say
Scott:I could totally feel how
Jamie:How it engages the flex?
Scott:Yeah. I mean, I caught a hard pass, I would feel that stick starts to move out from Yeah, totally.
Jamie:I guess you've done a strong bottom hand.
Scott:Yes. But listen, he likes it. Think he likes how he's able to, I think, draw it in a little closer and still get a shot off without jamming his hands up. Yeah, time will tell.
Jamie:You notice a difference though?
Scott:Which part?
Jamie:I don't know, accuracy, power,
Scott:sound know, we were doing like three posts the other day. He was doing all right. Yeah. Yeah. I think he was he started
Jamie:What did he use before that?
Scott:Here's the thing. Let me just oh, he was using a sync, Dower Sync.
Jamie:Nexus? Yeah. Okay.
Scott:What was I going to say? I was going to say that because it is a whippier stick, I think he's also trying to shoot differently. So the jury's out a little bit.
Jamie:Is he trying to flex it and snap it He's
Scott:trying to pull it in closer to his body and, you know, doing that, like, t like, toe drag release, TVR.
Jamie:Toe drag release. Toe drag Toe release. Coach Coach Chippy? I don't know.
Scott:We'll see. Yeah.
Jamie:Okay. Listen.
Scott:But he listen. He's enjoying it.
Jamie:But he likes it.
Scott:That's great.
Jamie:No. Listen. Let me let let let keep everybody posted on how he does
Scott:when the season starts. Will.
Jamie:Know? So the their Canadian sticks, by the way, the Canadian wrap, the black and red Yeah. Got them. I did, but they're not coming until, like, September.
Scott:Oh, no. You just oh, you didn't get them yet?
Jamie:Well, paid for them. But I I yeah. I didn't get it yet.
Scott:Correct. Oh, you have to wait?
Jamie:Yeah. She said to me that I said, James Stick, do you know when they come? I'm like, no. I'm like, let me guess September because Dom's came September.
Scott:Oh, you had ordered BT6 last year?
Jamie:Yeah. The white one, which is right there.
Scott:Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, the whiteout.
Jamie:Yeah. Yeah. I must say, it held together. He played an entire season with it because he was breaking sticks before that. He played an entire season with it.
Jamie:That's awesome. The construction is different. Good. I don't know why or how. I'm not sorted to have to look at it, but it worked.
Jamie:That's awesome, man. Yeah. Yeah. So let me know how auto likes it.
Scott:Yeah. All good on this end. Nice. Yeah. NHL?
Scott:Why not? Absolutely. Mean,
Jamie:I'm looking at our picks over there. I think you're totally busted. Oh, Do you have the Oilers? No. You didn't, you are totally busted.
Scott:I'm totally busted. I said they weren't going get past Vegas.
Jamie:So a buddy of mine that we were talking about on the podcast last week was busting my balls midweek about how we suck at predictions, which he's 100% right because he listened to our college and our pro picks and they really suck.
Scott:Got the
Jamie:NFL Yeah, your college picks. I have the Panthers in the finals.
Scott:Okay.
Jamie:Although the Avalanche got eliminated in the first round.
Scott:Yeah, it's the same thing.
Jamie:Mine's good and bad at the same time.
Scott:Listen, either way, here we are. What do you think? Rematch?
Jamie:So I think going seven games.
Scott:You do?
Jamie:I do. Okay. This is seven games.
Scott:Rooting for the Florida Panthers. I am.
Jamie:Think it's going seven games. I that the goaltending is I keep saying goaltending is going to be a big difference in the series. And I said that during Dallas last series. And Ottringer was absolute crap. So I don't know because Skinner outplayed him.
Scott:Yeah. Yeah. Mean, he definitely came up Skinner did. And listen, they all But Odinger had his moments as well.
Jamie:Yeah. But he got buried a couple games.
Scott:Mean, getting cold
Jamie:You see when they yanked him?
Scott:Yeah. That was interesting. You heard his post game?
Jamie:No, I didn't.
Scott:Yeah, DeBore. Listen, you
Jamie:Or he stood by his decision or something like that?
Scott:Yeah, he was like, there's like so many other things I changed in that lineup. He's like, you know, Jamie Ben went from like the first line to the fourth line. You know, we moved our our from our PP1s to our PP2. He's like, you know, I helped scratch this person.
Jamie:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Scott:He's like, that was one of many things that I did. And he was like, look, if it worked, you guys would all be standing there saying what a good decision it was.
Jamie:There's no question about it.
Scott:I don't think you can argue with the logic necessarily. Or I don't know if logic's the right word. But I get where he's coming from, trying to spark a team.
Jamie:Were you watching the last game when Edmonton won? Were you watching when Ottringer was pulled?
Scott:No, I tuned in late. I tuned in and he'd already been pulled.
Jamie:Okay, so was the strangest thing when they pulled Ottinger, he came and sat on the bench?
Scott:Yeah.
Jamie:You know the guy who it's Bryce Salvador for the Devils games who's in between the two benches. You know what I mean? They're commentating from the ice.
Scott:Is it Ray Ferraro?
Jamie:I don't remember who it was, but he literally Scott, he's got his headphones on and he's talking about Jay Gottenger and Jay Gottenger is like half half a foot from him.
Scott:Are you serious?
Jamie:Scott, it was I looked at Nancy and I go, how fucking awkward. Jesus. Scott, he's talk he's looking forward at the camera. Right? And Jake Ottinger is literally right here, Like and he's talking about Jake Ottinger, how he just got pulled, and he's lit.
Jamie:Ottinger heard everything he was saying. How could you not? He's just YouTube it. It's so it's awkward. It's not even does not even begin to tell the story.
Jamie:The
Scott:the So I was listening to Chicklets on the way over here and they were retelling that.
Jamie:Oh, did the new one come out?
Scott:No. Oh, it last week's? I didn't even listen to the other one, they were saying
Jamie:that Last week's was good.
Scott:I forget what game, but they had there was a missed call. Then during what would have been the power the Dallas power play Right. Edmonton scores two goals. Oh, yes. And then apparently as soon
Jamie:as I know what you're talking about.
Scott:As soon as, like after they scored the second goal, something along those lines, the interviewer had to go like talk to Deborah
Jamie:The coach.
Scott:Yeah. And be like Wanted no part of it. They were saying it.
Jamie:I was like, oh god. It was the girl, the
Scott:Oh Redmond?
Jamie:No, was it Redmond?
Scott:I forget.
Jamie:I don't know who it was either but I heard that, yeah, I know the interview you told me, I don't think that went well.
Scott:Yeah, that's
Jamie:Can you imagine? I mean, well, did you see whatchamacallit, from the Carolina hurricane? Brendamore had to answer some questions and it did not go well. He wasn't rude, but you could see he wanted no
Scott:part of that That's a tough Mid
Jamie:game, while the game's going on, you stick a mic in his face.
Scott:Yeah, I mean, whatever. That's why they get paid the big bucks.
Jamie:True, very true.
Scott:Yeah, no. But who do think is going to win?
Jamie:So I think Florida has the better team.
Scott:Okay.
Jamie:But Drysudle and McDavid are it depends on how hell bent they are, the two of them, on winning this thing. Because when McDavid goes, man, can anybody stop him?
Scott:No. No. He can't mean, he's not going to win every game for them.
Jamie:No, he's No,
Scott:So listen, I think the Hyman thing is a bad blow for them.
Jamie:He's hurt, right? Yeah. He went down the last series.
Scott:Yeah. But they got Ekholm back, and they also got Jeff Skinner back in the lineup who gave him a goal in the last Dallas game. And that was only his second playoff game. Yeah. Look, they have depth.
Jamie:So you think Edmonton's going to win? I mean, listen. It's not a terrible call.
Scott:I I mean, I think they will. So here's the question. I think they will.
Jamie:If Edmonton doesn't win, does McDavid implode, like No. Mentally? No.
Scott:No. There's no way, freaked
Jamie:out last year.
Scott:There's no way that guy implodes.
Jamie:I don't really mean implode, but like does he have a mental meltdown? I'm not saying it's going to crush his game, but just in general because he freaked
Scott:What the fuck?
Jamie:That's what I mean. He freaked out last year. Listen, the dude wants to win. I give him all the credit in the world. And he is a hell of a hockey player.
Jamie:But all right, so Florida clearly is going to come out and try to beat on them both.
Scott:Dude, you watched that clip I sent you of Ka'Chuck beating on Ajo? Are you surprised?
Jamie:I mean Ka'Chuck's
Scott:a total What a menace.
Jamie:Guy's a stud. And you know why? Because I think it was a was it a Barkhoff hit or a Bennett hit that happened the game before that?
Scott:Was that what that was about? Yeah.
Jamie:They were up like five nothing or five one, and Chuck's like, now it's on.
Scott:Right.
Jamie:You know? Oh, he went after sounded
Scott:like pointing to his head like, oh, I'm getting in your head
Jamie:by way. No. No. I think he was saying, you better keep your head up.
Scott:Oh, that's what he was saying?
Jamie:Oh, that's what I think he was saying.
Scott:He was gonna drill him.
Jamie:Because Chuck has said, you better keep your head up. That's what I think he was saying.
Scott:Oh, okay.
Jamie:If you put your head down, like
Scott:You're gonna get drilled.
Jamie:You get and when the wave breaks here, don't be there. You're going to get drilled. If anybody knows what movie line that is, I will be absolutely shocked. Send us an Instagram clip or send us an Instagram message. If you know the movie that that's from without looking it up, you cannot look it up.
Jamie:But if you know and you I want what movie and who said it?
Scott:Right? If you know that then that is Then you get gold
Jamie:star. Actually deserve like a $100 gift card to like pure hockey or something like that because if you get that without looking it up I
Scott:am going to write in the answer. Dollar gift card.
Jamie:Get you, like, half a stick these days.
Scott:It doesn't do much for you. Go buy war go buy yourself a Warroad
Jamie:base layer and then kick in the other $90.
Scott:You can go buy the one sleeve to the Warroad.
Jamie:It's just the turtleneck without everything else.
Scott:They sell it individually. You can bring it to the tailor once you've had several
Jamie:To have it sewn
Scott:together? Yeah.
Jamie:I'm telling you, it's terrible. But, yeah, so I think I I want Florida to win.
Scott:Yep.
Jamie:But you
Scott:know, they're not going to.
Jamie:I don't know about that. It's hard to count them out.
Scott:I totally agree with that.
Jamie:Really hard to count them out. And I think they're going be the more physical team. If they start beating on McDavid, they're going to beat on him.
Scott:They will.
Jamie:I mean, you watch. Bennett, Barakov, Ka'Chuck, they are going to beat on him. Marshawn. They're going to beat on him. So if he can hold it together and if they can listen, you can't stop the guy.
Jamie:But if you can contain the two of them, listen, I don't know.
Scott:I think, well listen, let's just hope
Jamie:It wouldn't shock me if Edmonton won. Let's put it that way.
Scott:Fair. Yeah. But I could also see Florida winning, to be honest with you. Yeah, totally forgot what I was going to say.
Jamie:That's all right. I mean, I would like to see Florida win again. Did you see how they would not touch the cup?
Scott:What they did this year?
Jamie:Yeah. Yeah. You said they wouldn't touch it? Because two years ago they touched it and they lost and then last year they didn't touch it and they won.
Scott:Oh, you're talking about Florida? Florida. Oh, so the opposite was true for
Jamie:Oh, they touch it?
Scott:They touched it.
Jamie:They did?
Scott:And so they like the
Jamie:Chuck's like, now you're fucked.
Scott:An interviewer asked me, David, oh, so you guys touched it? And he was like, well yeah, I think it's pretty obvious. Last year we didn't touch it, we lost.
Jamie:Oh, is that right?
Scott:So this year we touched it.
Jamie:Oh, so they did the exact opposite too? Yeah. I realize they didn't touch it the previous year.
Scott:Okay. Wait, sorry, but why did Florida do opposite?
Jamie:No, Florida, three years ago, Florida touched it and they lost in the Stanley Cup finals. Last year, they touched it. No, I'm sorry. I'm going backwards. Three years ago, they touched it, they lost.
Jamie:Last year, they didn't touch it, they won.
Scott:So they didn't touch it again.
Jamie:So they didn't touch it again.
Scott:Yes, okay. Yeah. Makes sense.
Jamie:So Edmonton, you're saying touched it last year?
Scott:No, did not
Jamie:last They did not touch it last year and they lost.
Scott:This year they touched it.
Jamie:Okay, so this is All right, listen. Listen. It's gonna be I think it's going I think it's going seven.
Scott:I mean, that would be great.
Jamie:Is it starting in Edmonton, by the way?
Scott:Do you know where it's starting? Believe so. Yes. That's the difference between this year and last year.
Jamie:Okay. So it's starting in Edmonton. So all right. Listen. So Edmonton's going have game seven if it goes.
Scott:If it goes.
Jamie:Listen, Babrowski is going to be huge.
Scott:They're all going to need to be huge.
Jamie:Meanwhile, not to go off topic per se, but did you see last year did you see that for the Stanley Cup finals, they did that NHL bingo? Did you do it last year?
Scott:Oh, you were telling about this. Fun.
Jamie:It was fun.
Scott:Said you got like
Jamie:And Dominic, the three of us did You download like a
Scott:lot of boards?
Jamie:Like a bingo board on your phone. And one's like McDavid needs three points, Barkov needs 10 hits. And if you get bingo on your board, you enter into like to win something from the NHL. Yeah? It was cool.
Scott:I wonder if they're doing it again. So you Okay, we'll see. But if they did do it again, you download a board?
Jamie:You download want to say it's through the NHL app or something like that. I'm sure if you just type in NHL bingo, it pops up. If you Google it, I'm sure it'll pop up. But it was really fun last year. I hope they do it again.
Jamie:I don't know if they are. Haven't looked it up yet. But last year it was really cool. Matter of fact, Nugent Hopkins I remember Dominic, he needed Nugent Hopkins to just do to have three shots on net. And Dominic was like, dad, goddamn it.
Jamie:He's like, this guy won't even shoot the puck on net. He's like, if I get Nugent Hopkins this year, he's like, I'm quitting. As he
Scott:said So
Jamie:Do you see it?
Scott:I just wanna let
Jamie:you know It's coming.
Scott:As of right now, registration is open.
Jamie:See? What's it called?
Scott:It was open, like, three hours ago.
Jamie:See? What what's it called? Just NHL bingo or, like, Stanley Cup final
Scott:bingo? The Cup final bingo.
Jamie:Yeah. It was cool last year. It was it keeps you we're gonna be engaged in the game anyway, but it was actually a lot of fun.
Scott:Yeah. NHL bingo.
Jamie:Yeah. So yeah. Yeah. So if if if if if you guys win, split it with me.
Scott:What? Because I told you about it. Oh, okay. Yeah.
Jamie:Alright. So that's this episode.
Scott:I think that's it, man.
Jamie:Good Episode 12. In the books, bud.
Scott:In the books.
Jamie:Alright. Here we go.
Scott:Alright. Good
Jamie:stuff. I'll talk to later. See you, bud. Later.