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Film Curious is a movie review podcast that takes a step back from the constant media consumption to discover and ponder great films across genres and time. A podcast where we let our intrigue guide us and are not afraid to explore whatever films pique our interest.
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Speaker 1
Ash is all for saving baby Hitler. And just
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Speaker 2
you know flips them. Terrible person I am.
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Speaker 2
I mean, I guess I did go,
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Speaker 1
You just go back and kill Eva Braun cause you don't like women.
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Speaker 2
This was my biggest problem with this, this movie was it centered around SuperGIRL. There was not enough SuperMAN.
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Speaker 2
Hello, fellow
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Speaker 3
movie adventurers. And welcome to film curious. I'm Ashley. I'm joined by Pete this episode to chat about DC's latest theatrical release and second movie since James Gunn was placed at the helm of DC Studios, and that movie is Supergirl. The story follows Kara Zor-El, alias Supergirl, as she joins forces with a young companion on an interstellar journey of vengeance and justice after an unexpected adversary strikes too close to home.
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Speaker 3
We're going to start off with a non spoiler review to express our overall impressions of the film, and then move into a spoiler discussion to hit on some more concrete points. I'm going to go into a bit of a monologue here, so bear with me. I'm going to probably end up taking run out of breath at certain points, but I just I feel like I need to preface.
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Speaker 3
It.
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Speaker 3
Was like just an overall feeling of the film. So I want to start off by saying, go see Supergirl in theaters if you haven't yet. It's fun. It has a great soundtrack and a solid story. It's as good as any other superhero movie to come out in the last five years or so. That isn't one of the big names, and that is Batman, Superman, Spider-Man.
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Speaker 3
So I want to give credit where credit is due, which is to the screenwriter Anna Nagara for her adaptation of the comic based specifically on Supergirl, Woman of Tomorrow, and the composer Claudia Sarn, along with credit two strong performances by young leads Millie Alcott as Supergirl and Everly as Ruthie, as well as Jason Momoa in his supporting role and return to the DC film universe as Lobo.
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Speaker 1
I have a comment on that.
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Speaker 3
You write down your notes of what you disagree with here. The villain Prem, leader of the group of space pirates and mercenaries. The brigands might be lacking in a lot of things, but I don't believe it's from a lack of showing arts effort. More. The character is a bit stock itself. I think my biggest disappointment in the movie as a whole is there are a lot of choices that just didn't do as much as they should to have supported and elevated the story, and maybe not even choices like a lack of choices.
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Speaker 3
And I don't usually feel disappointed in a film unless it did have a lot of strong elements, and I did think it had the potential to be truly great. So my frustration with this film is really a compliment in a way, and I want to state before I make this next comment, I enjoy this director's other work. Craig LSP has directed quite a few films I love, which I'll mention I, Tonya, and Lars and the Real Girl.
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Speaker 3
Cruella is also not too shabby.
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Speaker 1
So when I call.
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Speaker 3
Yeah. So when I go on to make the following critiques, I just want to say it's respect for those filmmakers capabilities. He's talented, but I'm not sure he was the right fit for this movie. He might have been the right fit for this story and for this character, but maybe not this genre. I think the camera for me was to static, for the energy of the soundtrack, to static, for the action sequences, and sometimes unimaginative for an off earth, planet hopping romp heralded a bit too heavily on certain iconic shots, but I felt failed to establish its own style and esthetic.
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Speaker 3
I'll give specific examples when we get into spoilers, but I would even describe it as the camera and the editing, sometimes lacking a flow or rhythm with all the other elements. But I just monologue for a couple minutes, so I'm going to cut myself off here. Open the floor to Pete. Pete, where you add on on this one.
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Speaker 3
And what are your objections to what I just said?
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Speaker 1
Hey. I'm not. This is the way I'm going to go about that. B is the great I would give it. I think it's a b. My my reasoning for, you know, for a B are really fantastic. She's the best part of the movie. She's the reason to go see the movie. I could not tell you. I guess this does go against.
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Speaker 1
I could not tell you three notes of the score. It did not stand out to me at all. I was even reading through the credits, and I saw that they apparently at one point used the original Superman theme. Totally missed it. I don't know where it happened. It was it for her or for what.
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Speaker 3
It was for her. And I think I actually questioned why for Supergirl. Or like, I caught a few notes of it, like. Yeah, I guess they could have definitely come up with something for her. Yeah. I think it just maybe the the score didn't detract from the soundtrack and I think it fit like pretty well into it.
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Speaker 3
Maybe I would say so. They didn't feel like I feel like it was there for having such a heavy amount of songs. I think it it felt just cohesive. So maybe that's why I'll give I'll give credit to that, that it didn't distract from it and it fit in well the times that you could.
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Speaker 1
I just have no memory of it ever. So.
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Speaker 3
And there was, there was like 3 or 4 notes. I like you, I did hear it. I'm trying to remember the scene.
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Speaker 1
And using like modern music. This is my one big concern for DC is that everyone's going to try to make a James Gunn movie, but they can't, and it's going to feel like someone else is trying to make a James Gunn movie when it's not going to work that way. Just let you know, do your own thing. It'll be fine.
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Speaker 1
I mean, when you look at Supergirl and the, you know, the book that Tom King, he wasn't like, well, I'm going to do what other people did, like he did through all that shit out the window and did his own thing. So I would impress, like, they give a shit. I think I would say my biggest thing is don't try to be James Gunn version.
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Speaker 1
BC D and E get away from that as soon as possible.
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Speaker 3
Definitely.
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Speaker 1
And and if Gunn wants his movies to be like that, then maybe put them out every other year and do them all yourself, which is insane.
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Speaker 3
And I like your.
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Speaker 1
Style either. But you know, that would be the only way to go about it.
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Speaker 3
Yeah.
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Speaker 1
I thought Momoa was fine. I don't know, he seems like he just. He's just Jason Momoa in everything. So, like, I actually would have liked where I fell on on Lobo was I either needed more of him or much less. I thought it hit this weird middle ground where he became, like, such a piece of the third act, while while she was, well, you know, about while other things were happening.
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Speaker 1
And I was like, I don't know if we really needed like this to show up, you know, then again, you know, in Superman, you have the same sort of thing happened with Mr. Terrific. But Mr. Terrific was really entertaining, where I thought Lobo was just fine. Okay. I'm gonna I will say that I liked the locations and that they looked like shit in my reasoning for that is because that is what she's going through.
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Speaker 1
She is not going to the prettiest places in the space galaxy, blah blah blah because she wants to have fun. She is a legit alcoholic who is running away from all of her trauma and not willing to face it, and not willing to give other places a try. She should be in dive bars and stuck on planets that look like garbage.
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Speaker 1
I'm fine with that. I have no problem with the movie being murky. I mean, some of my favorite that's I don't know, it's it's like, I don't think, like No Country for Old Men didn't need to be more colorful, like that's. I'm not saying you said that, but like, I've heard that complaint and I'm like, that's a crazy thing to say.
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Speaker 1
It depends on the story that you're telling. And does that actually fit all? Do you want to put that person in an environment that they absolutely shouldn't be in? And you have to play against each other, you know, you can do it number of different ways. But saying like it's a comic book film and it should be more bright and colorful, it's kind of insane.
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Speaker 1
Because last I checked, Gotham is a nightmare. Hell's kitchen is a nightmare overall, and it's fine for those characters to be in that because it matches their mental mood.
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Speaker 3
Why is it a problem?
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Speaker 1
I mean, here, and we all know why it's a problem, because it's always the thing that comes down with these movies is that, you know, people have a problem with a specific thing and they just bleed into the other ones. I really was bummed out with the villain. It's not the actor's fault at all. They give him zero.
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Speaker 1
I don't know a thing about this dude, and I want to use like this. Like as an example, I don't think we need to know everything about everyone, right? Very famously, you'll hear people say, and they're right. You know, the great thing about Michael Myers is a just evil. That's it. Like, we don't need reasons like that.
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Speaker 3
We don't need every villain to have a backstory.
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Speaker 1
No.
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Speaker 3
But it'd be a sympathetic character.
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Speaker 1
But with Michael Myers, we do get all that we need in that backstory, because we literally see from a POV an actual POV, not the type you see on Instagram that says POV, and it's two people talking to each other, which is really weird. You know, you see the POV of him killing his his sister. And so you are very much like in this kid's mind, literally.
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Speaker 1
And then everything else you learn is just how terrifying he is from Loomis stats. And like, that's all you need, right? But they don't give you nothing. And this man, this felt like nothing. I get what you're saying. I do think the camera is a bit. It just sort of lets the action happen around it. I'm okay with that overall.
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Speaker 1
I think sometimes people get a little bit too much like, hey, look at what I'm doing with the camera. Look what I'm doing with the camera. Look at it. And that can be more off putting than dull for me. But yeah, I thought it was. Overall though, I did think it was B because I liked that it focused just on her.
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Speaker 1
You know, mainly it was like trauma and other girls trauma or out of the character. I don't really give a shit if it's a male or a female. I don't really know what the big problem is for so many people with that. But I loved that there was so many. It seemed like so many practical aliens and just a varied amount.
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Speaker 1
Like, this is like you blink and there's ten different costumes and designs, like put in front of you. That's that's for me. That's my visual. Candy is seeing all of that imagination there. But yeah, like you were saying. Yeah, maybe it's not the director's like home seat, but the emotional moments that you experienced with Kara, Kara, Han Han, you know, they probably work better because that very much leans into his strengths, right?
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Speaker 1
I'll take that trade.
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Speaker 3
Off of it.
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Speaker 1
Yeah, I think I'll take that trade off.
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Speaker 3
I want a nice balance. I just some of the. When we we get to the spoilers, I'll point out one really specific example that I actually think kind of has to do with your James Gunn. Not everything has to be James Gunn thing, but sorry. Go ahead.
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Speaker 1
No, no, I'm agreeing with you on that. Yeah, I think that's I really think that's a that could be a problem like going forward for directors who are doing films who are not. James Gunn is a we have to have some 80 or 90s or 70s or 60s music be the soundtrack. And I think that's going to where real sin real quick, you know, guardians in one movie every three years.
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Speaker 1
I'm sorry.
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Speaker 3
No. Yeah. No. You're right. Yeah. Guardians was enough spaced out and it's James Gunn. It's the style of the films. I was watching something the other day that I was like, finding, like, why are we constantly putting songs like random songs into things? Yeah. So yes, yes, I agree, I agree with you on that. I'm trying to read the movie I was watching the other day where I was like, why is this random song in here?
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Speaker 1
Kind of feel like it's all over the place nowadays?
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Speaker 3
It is now. It's just very popular. It's even like what they're doing in trailers. They'll be like a random rendition of something in a trailer.
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Speaker 1
It started. Did it start like way back when was Gears of War when they used which was in Donnie Darko. So I guess technically it starts from that, but they used the, you know, the Mad World Gary Jules slowed down version of his classic 80s bopper. And ever since then, man. Oh, shit. People cannot get away from it.
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Speaker 1
Just every trailer has like some 80 or 90 song slowed down to like, half the tempo. Yeah, and sad.
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Speaker 3
Sound was the reason one was still like dinosaur one that's coming out with an Hathaway and even bigger, it has a Baby Joel song in, I think.
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Speaker 1
Was it a joke?
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Speaker 3
Yeah.
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Speaker 1
Oh my God, what a what would it be? You the down Easter Alexa? That would.
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Speaker 3
Be oh my life, I think.
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Speaker 1
Sure.
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Speaker 3
Yeah, I think it's right.
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Speaker 1
Whatever. I don't know what the fuck that has to do with dinosaurs.
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Speaker 3
I think it's that one.
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Speaker 1
Weird.
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Speaker 3
Yeah. It's slow down and it's like broken up.
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Speaker 1
They just put in New York State of Mind, and the fucking film takes place in Atlanta or something. And, yeah, those are my, like, immediate thoughts. I like cars journey. That's that's the thing that mattered the most to me was her journey. And it's about her being that bright spot in the movie which she builds into and becomes.
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Speaker 1
It does do a little bit of a cliche thing that a lot of superhero first movies do with. I mean, it's not a spoiler. Don't get excited about seeing her in the costume for more than like 15 minutes.
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Speaker 3
She can't take up the mantle just yet.
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Speaker 1
Yeah, yeah, but I like the duster. Look, she looks cool. Yeah, the duster and the the dust jacket and the sunglasses look cool as hell, so. And, yeah, she would have had that on in the beginning of the movie. It wouldn't have made any goddamn sense. So again, like, I see what people have told themselves that these movies always have to be, I don't care, I don't care about that.
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Speaker 1
Because if that were true, then Watchmen wouldn't exist. The comic book, not the movie. Yeah, just silly stuff like that, I think is very internet brained. A lot of times, you know, oh, this is the worst thing I've ever seen. Okay, okay. It's like the movie to watch in your life. What what what do you see watching.
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Speaker 3
Yeah, I haven't I actually didn't I did not look up the like the current review.
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Speaker 1
Oh no.
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Speaker 3
I guess.
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Speaker 1
I'm sure it's right.
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Speaker 3
I think I saw a bunch of already like, you know, YouTube reaction videos already that like, say some kind of thing about why superhero movies keep doing this and blah, blah, blah, and I can't, I can't say that I felt that way about it. I literally wanted to get all of my kind of, like, really bad feelings about the film or my frustration with the film out first, so that when we move into the spoilers spoilers, I will point out when I felt like I had a problem with something, but I really did enjoy this story.
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Speaker 3
Like it was a very solid story. I don't have a problem with it.
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Speaker 1
And oh.
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Speaker 3
You.
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Speaker 1
Know, it's spoilers, it's David Krumholtz is fantastic. I really I really dug.
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Speaker 3
Him a good job.
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Speaker 1
And yeah, I guess we'll get into the spoiler thing. Because another thing, just like if you're going to go see it and you haven't seen it yet or whatever, what I really admire actually about this one, there ain't nothing about like a post-credit that tells you what the next movie is going to be like. The movie doesn't hijack its own movie to, you know, tell you about the Green Lanterns.
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Speaker 1
Let me take five minutes to tell you about this movie, the way that Marvel could never stop themselves from doing, which was great. Very, very happy with that decision. Keep that going.
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Speaker 3
Yeah, yeah, that was perfectly refreshing. You got something to say? Put it in the film. Yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 1
Like, just say less. Don't worry about like, you know, I remember the, you know, the Thor hot tub scene in Age of Ultron, which they cut most of the scene for the theatrical, so they don't fucking sense you're like, what's going on? And then, you know, it's like, just concentrate ad ass film, get it together. But all right, you want to talk about spoilers?
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Speaker 1
I don't know.
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Speaker 3
Yeah. Let's just get into it now. Yeah, yeah. So so bringing up James Gunn, like the style. I thought that the bar scene, which is technically like. Is it the second bar scene after they take the interplanetary bus to the planet where the brigands are hanging out, or they're trying to find information on them? That one bar? Yes.
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Speaker 3
Brigands, brigands. Brigands.
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Speaker 1
Brigadoon.
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Speaker 3
And that that was where I was like, okay, so I understand that we're trying to do a James Gunn thing, right? Because the music starts playing down on the ground. You're seeing the action, which I would argue you're not really seeing the action because the camera is not moving. I understand, Ruth, he's not moving. But with a gun like signature scene like that, the camera is moving, you know, or it's following a character and it's and it's got the background, you know, the fight is happening in the background with the music going and you're catching glimpses of it.
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Speaker 3
So that was my thing where I was like, if you're going to do a gun scene, like, you got to get a little bit more playful with it, you have to know, like how you're going to be moving the camera and stuff. I felt like this one, it was like, all right, static shot of Ruthie. And there's, you know, blur in the background.
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Speaker 3
I don't know, just that one. That specific one really was like, why don't you get more playful here?
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Speaker 1
Because I'll tell you, I know. I'll give you my guess because we're saying, don't be like James Gunn so that he doesn't. But then we're complaining that it's not like James Gunn.
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Speaker 3
So don't do it.
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Speaker 1
You know?
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Speaker 3
Why do something else. That scene.
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Speaker 1
You could still have that scene. Because if you can follow him around.
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Speaker 3
Like.
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Speaker 1
If she's moving and the camera's falling around, it's the credits to Guardians of the Galaxy two when baby girl is running around. So like, I wouldn't I would not want that there. But I didn't think she's going to learn anything about her fighting style. Okay, so what do you what would you do then?
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Speaker 3
Maybe I'd put it on Ruthie for a hot minute, and then I would then proceed to film it. How? I would act like a action fight sequence. You don't have to copy James Gunn's camera movements in this kind of scene, but, like, get get a little creative with your shots and show us, you know, her fighting. I feel like we didn't.
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Speaker 3
We don't throughout the film. We don't get a lot of her fight choreography or when I felt I wasn't able to see a good amount of it. I don't know the action, just the pacing and the cuts and even the composition of some of.
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Speaker 1
It's not the strong point where the strong point of the movie I liked. I like that decision, though. I thought it was just at least a different way. Like, I don't know, I guess I don't need to see them doing the same fight that she's essentially going to do at the end of the film, which is just beating up a bunch of guys, you know, bunch of characters.
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Speaker 1
It would just be like the same thing in different clothes, literally.
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Speaker 3
Yeah. So that does bring me to one other point, but yeah, you can finish. Go ahead. Thought.
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Speaker 1
No that that was my thought.
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Speaker 3
Well my one other point is I felt that we maybe could have cut one of the fights or trimmed one of the fights down or something and provided a little bit more of a bonding experience between Kara and Ruthie, maybe taken a little bit more time, like in between getting off the planetary bus to the the alien convenience store to then get to that bar, I think there was just like, there's a little bit of a bonding type thing missing for me.
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Speaker 3
I know that like they had it when car is telling her her backstory and then we get the flashback.
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Speaker 1
I have a patch for you. Then, don't make the planet with the green sun. Make it with a red sun at the end, and she and Ruthie have to kind of hand to hand fight some people without powers, and then they start getting over done. And then the sun changes and you get your thing. But then she doesn't really get to, like, switch into the costume because it wouldn't make any sense.
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Speaker 1
Was she going to do leave and then come back? But that was the only part that I would have liked to have had. Like a little bit of a different approach is she gets sidelined for a while with that and, you know, and it sets up the whole bit in the prison cell with Lobo, which actually I thought was really good, but I just sort of felt like she she's missing in a lot of the third act.
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Speaker 1
It feels. So I would have liked a little more of her. But without that, we don't get the good stuff of learning about her background and her story and what happened on Krypton. Krypton, as Brando would say. And we also don't get the prison scene, which is the only time when, like Ruthie, 100% like take care of her own shit, you know, for the most part, which which I thought was really good to see.
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Speaker 1
So it's like a give and take on that. I'm not too sure where I would lay in it, but yeah, I just thought she was maybe a little bit too missing. I do wonder though, because as much as they didn't like point at, you know, like a picture of Brainiac and be like, Brainiac's coming, they kind of do, because that little Kryptonian city was floating around in space.
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Speaker 1
I have a theory. They don't show her parents dying. They don't show that piece of Krypton, like, completely dying off. And part of me is thinking about the bottled city of Kandor. Kandor, right? Yeah. Candor. And that's a remaining fragment of Krypton that Brainiac shrinks and keeps a little bottle. And I have a feeling that might come into play.
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Speaker 1
I think that her parents might still be around, and they're prisoners of Brainiac. And so that gives her a very big reason to be involved in the next film, or at least maybe towards the end of it, if you know when that's discovered. Because I know that, you know, soups and Lex are seem like right now the front, you know, the front facing characters in the film, rightfully so.
00;25;25;09 - 00;25;48;09
Speaker 1
That's another thing that DC is going to have a problem with, actually, of the James Gunn thing of everyone trying to be James Gunn and the fact that no one else is going to be Holt's Lex, that's going to be a real problem. Like Marvel kind of had this problem until Thanos. Thanos was, was good enough that we were able to look past it.
00;25;48;09 - 00;26;17;22
Speaker 1
But in comparison to Loki, who gave a shit about, like, any of those other villains, you know, that's going to be a hill to climb because he was that entertaining and that good of a villain. DC is going to have a problem with that. Their best Villains gallery, you know, comes from Batman. And, you know, that's not people that, like, can pose a real threat to Superman.
00;26;17;24 - 00;26;37;21
Speaker 1
Yeah, if Superman was in Batman comics, every issue would be like three pages long. You know that to be the end of it. So yeah, sorry, the sidetracked on that one, but yeah, I would have liked to have seen a little bit different just towards how long she was out of action in the third, in the third frame of the movie.
00;26;37;22 - 00;26;42;16
Speaker 3
That's fair. I thought that the the flashbacks though, were the strong point, you know.
00;26;42;17 - 00;26;43;21
Speaker 1
Good. Yeah. And then.
00;26;43;21 - 00;27;15;18
Speaker 3
Like good and even like they were a little bit more esthetically pleasing, which I get because like, you know, they're on Krypton and it's, it's nice and tall until it pulls away and everybody's dying on it. But I thought that was even a really good way of we really understand. Like she went through it like she watched everyone around her die and was forced to be sent off world and like, not given the mercy of just dying with the rest of her people and even the the flashback.
00;27;15;18 - 00;27;24;25
Speaker 3
I love when she gets to Metropolis. I love David Corns, which Superman, when he does show up, he's so good. He's super man.
00;27;24;27 - 00;27;49;26
Speaker 1
Also important little silly thing. Superman preschool. He has not grown it out in the earlier scenes. And then you know, you see it when they have that. The scene at the end of the film where it's, you know, the supes that we now know now, and he's got his little that little curl is back. But he didn't grow out his hair yet as much in the previous scene.
00;27;49;27 - 00;28;06;24
Speaker 3
Yeah, but the where she gets to the metropolis. Well she first she lands down in Kansas. It looks like to me I'm not. Isn't that a part of Caras backstory? Doesn't she like land in a cornfield, like, basically where Superman lands? Or am I making this up about.
00;28;06;25 - 00;28;09;19
Speaker 1
I don't know what I like. One of her thing is.
00;28;09;19 - 00;28;11;28
Speaker 3
Her original thing. Yeah. Anyway.
00;28;12;00 - 00;28;14;26
Speaker 1
I feel like that character redone a couple of times too.
00;28;14;28 - 00;28;42;03
Speaker 3
Yeah, I might have seen one of the, like, animated films I'm pulling from, but. But she gets to Metropolis. Everything's way too loud for her, you know, heightened senses now her ears and I really, like, appreciated the struggle that she has being on Earth. And I think then it was like the explanation of what he's listening to music, the headphones to to tune out the noise of Metropolis and the unearth.
00;28;42;08 - 00;28;45;23
Speaker 3
And so I was like, yeah, I love that flashback. That was phenomenal.
00;28;45;25 - 00;29;12;26
Speaker 1
Which, you know, give, give some credit where it is. They did touch on that and play with that idea in this Snyder Man Steel, because that was like when Zod first steps out of the ship and takes off his helmet where Clark is like, but I liked I liked how, you know, in this when he's like, you're probably just about to get your powers now.
00;29;12;29 - 00;29;35;10
Speaker 1
And that's when all of it kind of, you know, comes in. They even actually played with that. My goodness. Why do I remember this of all things in the Ben Affleck Daredevil? That's why he had this thing that people sleep in with the water that cuts out the sound isolation chamber or whatever it may be specifically called. He's got one of those.
00;29;35;11 - 00;29;56;14
Speaker 1
So when he wants to go to sleep at night, you know, the entire sound of the city is not keeping him up, which is, I always thought was one of the rare, really good choices in that film outside of every single line that Colin Farrell says, that movie is very forgettable.
00;29;56;16 - 00;30;00;26
Speaker 3
I'm going to say I couldn't remember jack shit about that movie. So like, you.
00;30;00;26 - 00;30;01;19
Speaker 1
Weren't.
00;30;01;21 - 00;30;08;15
Speaker 3
You were saying talking about him, like, I don't know, I did see it. I'm pretty sure I saw that movie. I don't remember anything.
00;30;08;17 - 00;30;24;10
Speaker 1
Joey Pants, isn't it too? If I remember correctly, he's like the an investigator or something. The Michael Clarke Duncan was was kingpin. There's actually a pretty good fight scene between him and kingpin at the end. Weird that I'm remembering this just suddenly.
00;30;24;11 - 00;30;26;01
Speaker 3
Have to. Do you watch? Maybe.
00;30;26;02 - 00;30;30;27
Speaker 1
I don't know if you need to do that, but, you know, just say it had a couple of things.
00;30;31;00 - 00;30;32;12
Speaker 3
A couple of good things.
00;30;32;13 - 00;30;35;09
Speaker 1
Yeah, couple of notes.
00;30;35;12 - 00;31;04;09
Speaker 3
I do want to say that I did really enjoy Lobo, and maybe he was just Jason Momoa, but I was like, I don't know why necessarily. I was so like, why are we bringing people who played other people in the previous set of DC movies into new DC movies? It's not like we get confused, like, I shouldn't really matter to me, but I'm always kind of like, I don't know, let's just pull some fresh people, let's see who can, who can be a fresh face.
00;31;04;09 - 00;31;08;26
Speaker 1
And with. Under that ruling, though, Chris Evans is never Captain America.
00;31;08;28 - 00;31;11;09
Speaker 3
That's true. Yeah. I'm wrong. It's a wrong.
00;31;11;10 - 00;31;22;11
Speaker 1
Take this. Yeah. With that said, that's a wrong take because. Yeah. Because then you don't get Evans is cap. And that would have been unfortunate for all of us.
00;31;22;13 - 00;31;42;03
Speaker 3
That's true but I do I did like him as Lobo. So I was like oh this is great, I enjoyed it. He was fun. I thought it was clever and funny. And they had a good little rapport going him and Millie Alcock and. Yeah. So yeah, it was good with that. No, the villain is not enough. Like you were saying.
00;31;42;03 - 00;32;08;03
Speaker 3
I think you kind of said it very well. I, I personally don't care though, because I, this was one that it didn't really bother me just because I'm like, this is about Kara, this is about Ruthie. And also we kind of are maybe, maybe the bigger problem, though, right? Might be the villains are mad Max. Like.
00;32;08;08 - 00;32;10;18
Speaker 1
Yeah, they call them.
00;32;10;20 - 00;32;22;18
Speaker 3
Yeah, they've got child brides, they got motorcycles. Got some weird look about them. They all seem kind of crazed. And then we fight in the sand in our in our final battle.
00;32;22;20 - 00;32;38;06
Speaker 1
You can argue that like, mad Max is just Vikings without, you know, boats, you know. But yes, it it's it's sort of a generic it is kind of like generic enemy A, B, C and D, right. Yeah. This could have been.
00;32;38;06 - 00;32;38;24
Speaker 3
A game.
00;32;39;00 - 00;32;57;15
Speaker 1
This could have been like a group of villains from a punch him up like at an arcade. It could have been Streets of Rage five. We up to five. Whichever Streets of Rage would be the newest one. I think there's a Streets of Rage for, Yeah, you could just throw them into a blender and you wouldn't even know.
00;32;57;21 - 00;33;22;22
Speaker 1
The only thing, the thing that got me on in the beginning, I was like, oh, this guy's pretty good because he was fucking Bertil, you know? He was just, like, unflinchingly, like, just mocks. It is funny, though, how all of this kicks off because the brother tries to, like, scare his sister. That was pretty funny. I don't think it was supposed to be funny, but what had happened, I was like, it was.
00;33;22;23 - 00;33;28;07
Speaker 1
I was like, it's kind of funny. Like, this guy just got his whole family killed. Well, except for her.
00;33;28;08 - 00;33;39;05
Speaker 3
But why didn't the parents, like, they know these people are coming? The parents couldn't give the kids a heads up to be like, hey, stay in your room. There's some evil guys coming.
00;33;39;07 - 00;33;52;29
Speaker 1
You know, I mean, in that case, then you know what would have happened? Because it's just the script would have taken it there. Then one of the kids would have got overly curious and fell into the hallway or some dumb shit, right?
00;33;53;00 - 00;33;56;26
Speaker 3
Yeah. I mean, rusty was already hanging herself.
00;33;56;28 - 00;34;21;14
Speaker 1
The flip. The flip of that, I guess, like a good version of that is in No Time to Die with bond, where you learn about Leah's do's like when her mother was killed by Freddie Mercury. I'm going to care enough. God, I don't like him. Like, that was a pretty good one where she's like, she sees what's happening.
00;34;21;14 - 00;34;39;16
Speaker 1
But she does get a gun, though, and then try to shoot the guy and does shoot him. I think actually a couple of times that he lives. But yeah, that was yeah, kids suck. I mean, the stupid kid scared, scared her sister and got an ax in the back for it. I mean, that's a lesson.
00;34;39;18 - 00;34;41;18
Speaker 3
I don't know what lesson it is.
00;34;41;20 - 00;34;51;25
Speaker 1
Don't do that. To jump. Scares are dumb. That's the lesson. And you know what? Now this movie's even better, actually. There we go. Now it's no.
00;34;51;26 - 00;35;12;03
Speaker 3
Joke, you know, it just scared was absolutely not dumb when we were playing Kevin Factory. And you click. I'm gonna ruin it, I guess for somebody who hasn't watched it or hasn't played Cabin Factory, is that if you click on the the Jump Scare button, it'll immediately give you a jump scare.
00;35;12;04 - 00;35;23;05
Speaker 1
Yeah, it's like a legitimate jump scare. Just at the menu of this video game. I had no idea there was a moment in Supergirl. Oh, I think it was just because it was loud that Melissa.
00;35;23;06 - 00;35;43;20
Speaker 3
No, there was there was a whole I think was the same girl when she gets. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Ruthie goes down to the shores and area when she sees one of the brigands. Oh, yes. And like, yeah, he pops out behind her because she's, like, watching the other brigand. And then. Yeah, that was a jump scare. The music got really.
00;35;43;20 - 00;35;47;27
Speaker 3
It was actually a little too. It was a little too much for, for this movie.
00;35;47;27 - 00;36;10;05
Speaker 1
But she, she mentioned that Melissa mention she was like, that's really loud. And I was like, I'm deaf. I don't know anything anymore. So I was like, I'm fine, but not because I'm not a judge. I have no idea. I couldn't tell you what's loud and not anymore. All I know is that I have trouble hearing dialog occasionally, but not not in this one.
00;36;10;06 - 00;36;26;22
Speaker 1
Had no issues with that. I'm looking forward to seeing this again. I might want to, well, I guess no. Didn't that stupid minions thing come out soon? So I'm assuming I can't find it on an Imax screen or any more because, you know, children's movies and.
00;36;26;24 - 00;36;29;25
Speaker 3
It's very important. Used a little yellow guys.
00;36;29;26 - 00;36;50;27
Speaker 1
Yeah. Has nothing to do with just charging more per ticket. It's about the art. So. But I'd like to maybe check it out again. But so much stuff is out right now and I'm playing catch up as is. Yeah, because I also saw jackass recently. I'm going to go see Death of Robin Hood tomorrow night. I know you're going later tonight.
00;36;51;03 - 00;36;51;14
Speaker 3
Yeah.
00;36;51;15 - 00;36;53;14
Speaker 1
Yeah, I'm very excited to go see that.
00;36;53;15 - 00;36;54;28
Speaker 3
Yeah.
00;36;55;00 - 00;37;10;07
Speaker 1
I also then watched the first two jackass movies once I saw the newer one. It's just a very busy time to go see anything more than once. And I also think that that's not helping this movie at the box office because.
00;37;10;09 - 00;37;37;01
Speaker 1
Essentially you fucked with Toy Story. I still I don't think that's a good idea. I don't care how many there are. I don't care what number that franchise is up to. Don't run into a brick wall of toys story. It's just a bad idea. Yeah, because families are going to go to that. And that is such a large part of the audience that could be going to see this, but that see Toy Story.
00;37;37;03 - 00;37;42;13
Speaker 3
Because, I mean, this is definitely geared like if you're a teenage girl, I think I love this movie.
00;37;42;15 - 00;38;02;21
Speaker 1
Yeah, yeah. So yeah. But the good thing is I don't really think the money matters right now. You know, they're just going to they're going to go on to Superman. And you know, as long as that performs the way that it is, that'll be that. Is there a Lobo movie like is that a thing that I knew about?
00;38;02;24 - 00;38;03;15
Speaker 1
I mean, the Green.
00;38;03;15 - 00;38;07;12
Speaker 3
Lanterns, we did they say something about a Lobo series?
00;38;07;14 - 00;38;11;21
Speaker 1
Is it a Lobo series? Let me say Lobo.
00;38;11;24 - 00;38;16;05
Speaker 3
I think I read something about Lobo series, or it could just be a rumor.
00;38;16;10 - 00;38;24;29
Speaker 1
All right, funny enough, when you do this, it's going to bring up some TV series from the 2000 nicely.
00;38;25;02 - 00;38;26;21
Speaker 3
It already happened.
00;38;26;23 - 00;38;34;15
Speaker 1
It already happened 26 years ago. I don't know. I don't see anything. Yes, sir.
00;38;34;16 - 00;38;36;10
Speaker 3
Or saw a rumor.
00;38;36;17 - 00;38;45;27
Speaker 1
Yeah, I mean rumor. Of course there'll be something, but, you know, because our next thing, I guess, is Green Lanterns right from DC, and then we got Superman next.
00;38;46;02 - 00;38;48;21
Speaker 3
Show, right? It's like. Yeah. Series.
00;38;48;23 - 00;39;20;01
Speaker 1
Yep. Series. And I want to see, like, the James question shadow. The James Gunn shadow is going to be the question that I kind of walk into with a lot of these movies. Be honest, I wouldn't mind seeing Gunn change up his his own thing. Sorry, I have the hiccups. His own thing too, because there's something about like, the modern soundtrack and plug in these songs in like this will be, you know, the fifth movie in a row, right?
00;39;20;02 - 00;39;50;08
Speaker 1
Where that's kind of the the bread and butter of what he does. He does in peacemaker. He did it to. Oh, people seem to be tiring of it at all. I just wanted to continue being fun, but and actually on that thing of fun sets the other like, I've heard all these movies. Gower, because I don't think every superhero film has to be fucking city like, I just, I don't want that.
00;39;50;08 - 00;40;03;21
Speaker 1
I don't want goddamn Ant-Man as the DNA for all of my films going forward. Shit, I can barely get to the Spider-Man movies right now with MCU. I'm hanging on the fingernails through those movies.
00;40;03;23 - 00;40;07;21
Speaker 3
He's too young. He's. They just write him so young.
00;40;07;28 - 00;40;12;10
Speaker 1
Did you know he's a kid? Yeah. No, they they make him scary.
00;40;12;12 - 00;40;19;07
Speaker 3
He's a he's in college now and he's still. The latest trailer has me feeling like he is still a kid.
00;40;19;12 - 00;40;35;28
Speaker 1
Yeah. They don't let him really mature. They I mean, it was I feel like every movie that he was in for a long time was what this guy, he's like young. Do you get it? It's fucking crazy. He's young. He doesn't know.
00;40;36;01 - 00;40;40;26
Speaker 3
One movie. I can't really weird of this old movie.
00;40;40;27 - 00;40;57;22
Speaker 1
Oh, man. Fuck off. You know, all that stuff was so exhausting. So, no, I don't need that in all. Again, I just feel like, oh, it's a comic book film. Therefore, it must be quippy. No, it does not need to be that way. It can be. And that's.
00;40;57;22 - 00;41;00;12
Speaker 3
Fine depending on the character. The. Yeah.
00;41;00;16 - 00;41;25;13
Speaker 1
It depends on what a shit. And I'll always go to this too, because this is another like there's a real double standard. This isn't news to anybody. Like I remember when She-Hulk talked and and I heard people like, oh, this is embarrassing for the MCU. Daredevil was taking it up the ass, in like, the opening 20 minutes, right?
00;41;25;16 - 00;41;34;20
Speaker 1
That was okay, let's flip that. What if She-Hulk was pegging somebody and dared and Deadpool, I'm sorry. And Deadpool.
00;41;34;22 - 00;41;37;11
Speaker 3
Was Daredevil, even temple.
00;41;37;13 - 00;41;42;09
Speaker 1
And what if, you know, Deadpool was talking? Would that have been then? Okay.
00;41;42;11 - 00;41;45;00
Speaker 3
Well he did. He did a whole dance. Oh, yeah.
00;41;45;00 - 00;41;45;03
Speaker 1
Yeah.
00;41;45;03 - 00;41;47;22
Speaker 3
He didn't grab his crotch and everything.
00;41;47;24 - 00;42;10;16
Speaker 1
All these things are just so fucking. Just like all these complaints. You're so fucking corny. You're also fucking boring. Also, like, that's the really. That's the biggest sin of it all. You're so boring where you just your head is up your ass. Which I guess would be like the funniest thing ever if it was in a Deadpool movie.
00;42;10;19 - 00;42;26;09
Speaker 1
But yeah, it's such a people react to these movies and everything was email characters so strangely. And even to comic book films over all, people react super weird nowadays.
00;42;26;11 - 00;42;29;24
Speaker 3
You can't throw any fan bases into things. It's a fan.
00;42;29;25 - 00;42;57;25
Speaker 1
Fandoms are always dumb fans. That's all it is. Fandom is dumb fans, and you don't have to be part of that shit. You can just enjoy it and not, you know, try to make a quippy, you know, this. Oh, I'm going to watch this simply to fuel up that review that I'm going to put on letterbox my sarcastic, you know, one line review because I really hope people click like it's so weird.
00;42;57;29 - 00;43;00;09
Speaker 1
It's so weird.
00;43;00;11 - 00;43;32;22
Speaker 3
To I guess this kind of goes with the the quips and the everything has to be super witty. I did, I did like the final scene interaction that Kara has when trying to convince Ruthie. You don't need to kill him. Don't kill him. You know, it's really good. And that could that scene was, I thought, really well done because that could have easily a second later could have been broken with the comic relief, like some line that had to be funny.
00;43;32;23 - 00;43;50;07
Speaker 3
And I felt like that whole scene, like they're like, no, this is just this is straight drama right now. Like we're we're going to do heartfelt. We're going to do emotional. Carr gives her that nice long hug. And I love I love that that Supergirl then goes and kills him I.
00;43;50;07 - 00;43;55;11
Speaker 1
Let me ask you something then.
00;43;55;13 - 00;43;57;19
Speaker 1
You know The Last of us, right?
00;43;57;24 - 00;43;59;27
Speaker 3
Yes. I am well aware of the Last of Us.
00;43;59;28 - 00;44;02;20
Speaker 1
Think you agree with Joel?
00;44;02;22 - 00;44;05;24
Speaker 3
I mean, do you want to know what I chose in the game? Or.
00;44;05;27 - 00;44;13;12
Speaker 1
We didn't have a choice in the game? A beautiful trigger in the game. You know, you didn't have to kill the nurses.
00;44;13;13 - 00;44;14;08
Speaker 3
No you didn't.
00;44;14;14 - 00;44;14;24
Speaker 1
You're not.
00;44;14;25 - 00;44;15;04
Speaker 3
Leaving.
00;44;15;04 - 00;44;31;14
Speaker 1
The room. I killed everyone in the room, I killed everyone, I killed everyone, but yeah, it did make me think of that. Where I was like, I, you know, it will. It won't bring up that that discussion as much because Last of Us was also seen by way too many people. And you get way too many opinions on it.
00;44;31;14 - 00;44;46;20
Speaker 1
But, it was like the same thing, you know, and it's, it's the argument that like Superman and Batman have, I would be interested to see if this ever comes up between her and Clark that.
00;44;46;21 - 00;44;52;28
Speaker 3
Well, because the differentiators, because I felt like this movie was like, here's the difference between me and Superman. Yeah.
00;44;53;02 - 00;45;05;17
Speaker 1
So so I'd love I would love for that conversation to happen and for us to be able to obviously, you know, observe it because it's the difference between the two of them.
00;45;05;20 - 00;45;32;12
Speaker 3
Yeah. Here's why I want to say, though, here's why I do love the choice. And maybe this is me, just like projecting my own thing on it of whatever I want it to be, that scene. But I felt like it was Kara protecting Ruthie childhood and like in a sense, and like her mental health until she was. And whereas car is like, it's in my 23rd birthday, I lost my entire planet, my people.
00;45;32;14 - 00;45;54;01
Speaker 3
I don't have I don't have to worry about, you know, my childhood anymore or the my, my mental thing. My mental state is not great anyway. My values are not there like they used to be or whatever. And I think that it just it was like a really kind thing to do for Ruthie, but then also like the ruthlessness of like adulthood.
00;45;54;04 - 00;45;56;14
Speaker 3
Or at least that's how I was taking it.
00;45;56;17 - 00;46;01;25
Speaker 1
Krim is very, very straightforward. He's like, yeah, here's the killer check. And he's.
00;46;01;26 - 00;46;02;29
Speaker 3
Trafficking.
00;46;03;02 - 00;46;15;21
Speaker 1
Like, no, well, just like I'm gonna just go and kill her another time. I'm going to do it as much time as it needs. And so, yeah, like, you know, you don't put a Batman Joker thing, right? It's like.
00;46;15;23 - 00;46;17;09
Speaker 3
Arkham and.
00;46;17;11 - 00;46;21;27
Speaker 1
Yeah, like, I'll just wait till he kills another 500 people, you know? Because. Because it's.
00;46;21;27 - 00;46;32;14
Speaker 3
Like the, what do they say with Batman says it's like, well, you just add another killer to the list. If I were to kill him, I'm like, no, if you did meth, like, yeah, it's.
00;46;32;17 - 00;46;39;25
Speaker 1
Like you're killing like him. Killing the Joker doesn't mean that he's just going to wind up killing everyone. Just like murder.
00;46;39;25 - 00;46;44;08
Speaker 3
All of it. Maybe you do need to murder all of Arkham, I don't know.
00;46;44;10 - 00;46;58;11
Speaker 1
You know, also, I thought of something that kind of was annoying me. I don't know why this came up in my brain. You know, like a lot of TV shows have always done, like, if their time traveling and sci fi, there's been a bunch have done this to, look, let's kill Hitler. But they always, like, try to kill Hitler.
00;46;58;12 - 00;47;05;18
Speaker 1
Like the height of World War two. Just shoot this kid in his fucking art class in college, kid.
00;47;05;20 - 00;47;07;27
Speaker 3
You can't kill the the young one.
00;47;08;00 - 00;47;08;18
Speaker 1
Yeah, like, what are.
00;47;08;18 - 00;47;15;10
Speaker 3
You talking like? Well, that's the argument of would you kill Hitler if he was a baby or. Yes, yes.
00;47;15;15 - 00;47;28;07
Speaker 1
Of course I would, I wouldn't hesitate. I mean, I'd want some proof to make sure I got the right baby. He's got the little mustache and shit. We got to make sure of these things, but, like, yes, of course I would know.
00;47;28;09 - 00;47;32;08
Speaker 3
Like. Well, the more didn't just kill the wrong.
00;47;32;10 - 00;47;54;25
Speaker 1
Maybe it was that movie. It was that movie. Great start. It was with the. It was a Franklin jello. And he shows up at somebody's house and he's like, I have a button for you. And there's just like this button on a table. It's like a big red button, like the Red and Stimpy shiny red button.
00;47;54;26 - 00;47;55;29
Speaker 3
I think I've seen this movie.
00;47;56;01 - 00;48;18;26
Speaker 1
And he says, like, if you press this button, somebody that you don't know will die, but you will get like your greatest wish. And someone very quickly, when that came out, made a parody. And before the man even finishes his sentence, he just presses the button and then, like, presses it again and again.
00;48;18;28 - 00;48;34;06
Speaker 1
It's like, okay, yeah, sure I will. Greek Samoa, sir. That baby off a cliff and me baby Hitler that that'll be the end of that anyways. In other words, friends, bring me your baby.
00;48;34;07 - 00;48;38;22
Speaker 3
Hitler's no problem, no problems with it.
00;48;38;23 - 00;48;43;21
Speaker 1
And then explain to me how you have time travel. But we'll deal with that later.
00;48;43;24 - 00;48;46;11
Speaker 3
So I don't know what. Would you I could.
00;48;46;12 - 00;48;55;10
Speaker 1
No, wait, ash, we have, like, a little bit of time left. Okay. What's the one thing you would do if you had time travel? You can only do one thing.
00;48;55;13 - 00;49;04;14
Speaker 3
Oh, man. I have a tough time with that question. Just because I. I'm a very ever forward moving person. Like, I don't even like nostalgia too much.
00;49;04;17 - 00;49;07;13
Speaker 1
You're killing me right now. Just answer the question.
00;49;07;17 - 00;49;10;15
Speaker 3
What I do if I get time travel.
00;49;10;18 - 00;49;11;17
Speaker 1
Just one thing.
00;49;11;19 - 00;49;19;03
Speaker 3
Figure out the like. Find something with the stock market that I knew what stocks were going to blow up because stocks makes money. Yeah, I don't know.
00;49;19;04 - 00;49;22;16
Speaker 1
But then what happens? Do you tell yourself a younger you.
00;49;22;21 - 00;49;30;03
Speaker 3
Yeah. That's that's the problem with all these things right. Yeah. Like you got to leave a trail that's going to make sense. Get older.
00;49;30;03 - 00;49;39;25
Speaker 1
And because I'm like, I'll go back in all my ten copies of Superman number one. Okay. Where am I putting this in between that time? You make.
00;49;39;27 - 00;49;41;04
Speaker 3
Sure you get it. Yeah.
00;49;41;04 - 00;49;41;21
Speaker 1
Yeah, yeah.
00;49;41;22 - 00;49;42;11
Speaker 3
Like what?
00;49;42;12 - 00;49;51;06
Speaker 1
Bank is never changed, and I can throw it at a safe deposit box. I gotcha search on this shit. Then who's paying the fees for this box?
00;49;51;08 - 00;49;58;28
Speaker 3
Really thoroughly planned out. Yeah. It's like, what is the comics? Have you read the comics, Paper girls?
00;49;59;01 - 00;50;00;02
Speaker 1
No.
00;50;00;04 - 00;50;02;20
Speaker 3
Oh, well, they they bump in.
00;50;02;21 - 00;50;06;29
Speaker 1
Don't tell me they're really super strong and they can't.
00;50;07;02 - 00;50;10;20
Speaker 3
Buy you, like, their future selves. Like.
00;50;10;22 - 00;50;15;02
Speaker 1
I would have be so disappointed.
00;50;15;04 - 00;50;16;28
Speaker 1
Brian. Kayvon. Oh, wow.
00;50;17;03 - 00;50;25;26
Speaker 3
Yeah. Yeah. And and but yeah, it's like, how do you convince yourself that you're you and it's like, you got to keep telling them things. Only you would know.
00;50;25;28 - 00;50;30;23
Speaker 1
I'd be fucking dead. Then I can't remember anything.
00;50;30;25 - 00;50;38;10
Speaker 3
It's too tough. The time travel thing is too tough. It's why, like, you shouldn't fuck with things in the past. Changes things in the future.
00;50;38;12 - 00;50;46;04
Speaker 1
How? Oh, so you would say baby Hitler. Really? Quite a stance. Ash. Ash is all for season, baby Himmler.
00;50;46;07 - 00;50;53;28
Speaker 3
And just now flips them. Terrible person I am.
00;50;54;00 - 00;50;55;21
Speaker 3
I mean I guess I did.
00;50;55;23 - 00;51;01;24
Speaker 1
Go you just go wrong because you don't like women. That's.
00;51;01;26 - 00;51;10;27
Speaker 3
This was my biggest problem with this. This movie was centered around Super Curl. There was not enough Superman.
00;51;10;29 - 00;51;23;16
Speaker 1
I didn't want to fuck crypto. What? Another weird thing like crypto isn't isn't swollen built like fuck is wrong with you?
00;51;23;18 - 00;51;23;29
Speaker 3
If you.
00;51;23;29 - 00;51;29;13
Speaker 1
Ever like, you should really? Wow.
00;51;29;16 - 00;51;38;02
Speaker 3
Well, I guess I'm fucking with the dogs. Stop. Stop taking the dogs. The villains are. They all deserve to die. They keep taking crypto.
00;51;38;05 - 00;51;48;28
Speaker 1
But John Wick in this world, John Wick laid down the law. There was like, shit, we can do that. Like, yeah, if you do that, it's the easiest thing to get an audience on your side. They're like, okay.
00;51;49;01 - 00;51;57;20
Speaker 3
I mean, I did I did love the freak out in Superman when I think he, like, storms into.
00;51;57;22 - 00;51;58;06
Speaker 1
Luthor.
00;51;58;14 - 00;51;59;10
Speaker 3
Like.
00;51;59;12 - 00;52;11;04
Speaker 1
Into little drinking. I think what he says under his breath, something like, I hope he doesn't die or something like that. Look at what he says. That's really, really good.
00;52;11;07 - 00;52;19;28
Speaker 3
No, I'm. I'm really excited for what do you see has to offer in under guns rule?
00;52;20;01 - 00;52;20;17
Speaker 1
Yeah.
00;52;20;20 - 00;52;44;21
Speaker 3
It's. Yeah. I'm hoping that more filmmakers feel more confident when, you know, they step into direct that they're going to just go for their own style, their own feel, and not feel the need to be to be gun. And but I did like this movie. I really did enjoy it. And it was one of the more.
00;52;44;24 - 00;53;01;15
Speaker 3
We got like like it wasn't like Captain Marvel where it's like, we don't know this character. Even by the end of her origin story, you know, like Captain Marvel had forgotten her memory. And we just went a whole movie with a woman who didn't know who she was.
00;53;01;17 - 00;53;38;09
Speaker 1
Yeah. They also they did not let her have much of a personality in those films. No. It was what a waste of of a phenomenal actress. Really. Waste. That was a big waste. Yeah. Again, I'll, I'll always defend what happened with that in that they lost their king piece. You know, if you watch the end of endgame, it's not exactly like, you know, subtle that it was going to be, you know, Black Panther and Captain Marvel, you know, at the head of the table.
00;53;38;16 - 00;53;49;16
Speaker 1
They were going to be our new cap and Tony. And once you lost Panther, I just think it through everything out the window.
00;53;49;17 - 00;53;54;11
Speaker 3
Yeah. Yeah, that was way before the whole Kang and Jonathan.
00;53;54;13 - 00;53;59;03
Speaker 1
Yeah. You know, it was before. Yeah, it was endgame where that was like.
00;53;59;06 - 00;53;59;18
Speaker 3
Yeah.
00;53;59;21 - 00;54;00;17
Speaker 1
Again, the.
00;54;00;20 - 00;54;01;16
Speaker 3
Villains.
00;54;01;18 - 00;54;24;20
Speaker 1
You know, it's hard. It's hard to do the villain, but at least they had what you would assume would have been, you know, the heart of the film's going forward, obviously. And Mackie is cap to throw him into the mix. You have the three leads really, and it just, you know, without Boseman, I think that just sunk that ship.
00;54;24;22 - 00;54;25;20
Speaker 1
So.
00;54;25;22 - 00;54;40;12
Speaker 3
Yeah, I know they did that character dirty. They did Captain Marvel dirty. They did brilliance and dirty. But yeah. Which I would say they did not. I thought they did a great job with Supergirl. Yeah. I hope she shows up. I hope the plan is that she.
00;54;40;17 - 00;54;42;03
Speaker 1
She's absolutely showing up and.
00;54;42;03 - 00;54;51;07
Speaker 3
She's showing up and she's a part of this because. Yeah, even even her David would. Because her. Well, together to.
00;54;51;14 - 00;54;57;27
Speaker 1
One second. Let me let me take a look at something super quick. Google is getting worse and worse. Has anyone noticed that recently?
00;54;58;00 - 00;55;01;16
Speaker 3
Yeah it's trash now.
00;55;01;19 - 00;55;34;24
Speaker 1
Saw. How much did the first Thor movie make? Because I seem to remember that, like even the first Captain America movie, I don't remember that being like a big box office, like it was Iron Man that really did it. Saw at the time made 449 million. It made only 181 in the States, the first Thor movie. And then let's look at Captain America.
00;55;34;27 - 00;55;37;04
Speaker 1
What's the first one, the First avenger.
00;55;37;05 - 00;55;39;04
Speaker 3
The first Avenger.
00;55;39;07 - 00;56;04;25
Speaker 1
That made 370 million, 176 of that was in the States and Canada, which that seems weird. Why would it break it down? I guess just North America. Yeah, the same North America. Neither one of those are like banger numbers. Yeah. You know, neither one of those are Bangor numbers. Well, especially when you think about when it went into so.
00;56;04;27 - 00;56;28;12
Speaker 3
Is this a stupid expectation after, you know, endgame that everything needs to make $1 billion like it totally skewed what is a successful movie. And it's just a ridiculous scale to compare it to. I mean, you only, you know, superhero who has that much like money power behind it is Spider-Man like.
00;56;28;14 - 00;56;32;21
Speaker 1
So I'd argue Batman has that to Batman. And I mean.
00;56;32;25 - 00;56;33;07
Speaker 3
Did the.
00;56;33;07 - 00;56;33;29
Speaker 1
Best man.
00;56;34;06 - 00;56;35;06
Speaker 3
Do.
00;56;35;08 - 00;56;37;14
Speaker 1
I mean, the Nolan trilogy made Bank?
00;56;37;16 - 00;56;41;18
Speaker 3
Well, yeah. Yeah, yeah, I was I was thinking of the new the new one, the Matt Reeves one.
00;56;41;19 - 00;57;08;28
Speaker 1
No, I want to say that was like probably in the 5 to 600 range. I mean, even Superman actually worldwide. 618 it's not like $1 billion or anything like that, but that was incredibly well received, you know? Yeah. Batman, actually, the Batman made 772. It made more than Superman. You wouldn't think that because of the way that people talk about it.
00;57;09;03 - 00;57;23;25
Speaker 1
But the Batman is was a was a big ass hit. But it wasn't a billion, you know. Yeah, it's it's a crazy thing to measure it against. Also, don't worry, folks, you're not going to see any of that money. Don't worry about the box office. It gives.
00;57;23;28 - 00;57;28;07
Speaker 3
It doesn't signal whether it was a good movie. Is it fun? Is it? Yeah.
00;57;28;09 - 00;57;30;23
Speaker 1
You didn't pay for it. Don't worry about it.
00;57;30;25 - 00;57;42;12
Speaker 3
Yeah. I mean, the only time to worry about it is if you really enjoyed it. And it didn't perform how they wanted it to perform. And so now you're not going to get more of it. That's the only thing.
00;57;42;13 - 00;57;47;27
Speaker 1
That remember the flash. My God, the TV. No. Like with Michael Keaton.
00;57;47;28 - 00;57;49;24
Speaker 3
Oh yeah. Yeah, yeah.
00;57;49;26 - 00;57;51;01
Speaker 1
That movie.
00;57;51;03 - 00;57;53;13
Speaker 3
Ezra miller was.
00;57;53;15 - 00;57;57;14
Speaker 1
The babies being put into microwaves. Movie was great.
00;57;57;17 - 00;58;00;22
Speaker 3
I'll be honest, I never I did not watch The Flash.
00;58;00;26 - 00;58;14;27
Speaker 1
Oh, God, I did. It was terrible. It was really terrible. And then they, like, showed, like dead actors and shit for their final sequence and just get the fuck away from me. Get it out of here. That was. That was a mess.
00;58;15;00 - 00;58;35;16
Speaker 3
That that whole era is. I'm very glad it's gone. I'm so glad it's gone. Yeah, maybe that's even why I was like, with Momoa coming back, I was like, no, no, nothing is keep it away. Nothing more. From that time period, I remember seeing Batman v Superman in theaters and being like, get me the fuck out of here.
00;58;35;16 - 00;58;36;25
Speaker 3
Is this movie over?
00;58;36;26 - 00;58;40;17
Speaker 1
Yeah. Movies bad, movies bad.
00;58;40;19 - 00;59;10;20
Speaker 3
But I'm glad we're on to a new era. I'm very much enjoying it so far. But anyway. All right, folks. Well, thanks for watching. Thanks for listening. Whichever you're doing, if you're liking these conversations, go ahead and follow us. Subscribe. And we're not always going to be talking about superhero stuff or the latest and greatest. So if you need a mix of things to hear about, you've come to the right place.
00;59;10;20 - 00;59;17;25
Speaker 3
Because I don't I don't stick to one niche or when it comes to film. So.
00;59;17;27 - 00;59;20;07
Speaker 3
I'm not sure which has happened to.
00;59;20;09 - 00;59;21;27
Speaker 1
Clean the cat. Clean the cat.
00;59;22;04 - 00;59;23;19
Speaker 4
Okay.
00;59;23;21 - 00;59;25;29
Speaker 3
All right. Thanks for listening and we'll.
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Speaker 4
See you soon. Bye bye.