Mystery Maniacs

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Murdoch on Dragon’s Den
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iouXR_4bEkg

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Mark & Sarah

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Creators and Guests

Host
Mark Bell
Co-host of Mystery Maniacs
Host
Sarah Smith-Robbins
Co-host of Mystery Maniacs

What is Mystery Maniacs?

Mystery Maniacs Podcast is a comedy recap podcast dedicated to British Mystery Television. Formerly, Midsomer Maniacs podcast.

Sarah:

Hey, Maniacs.

Mark:

Hey, Mystery Maniacs. It's Clues and Reviews. Clues and Reviews. Oh, Sarah, did I see a train wreck this weekend? What did you see?

Mark:

I saw a video that was released by the CBC of Murdoch on Dragon's Den.

Sarah:

Is that the show where, like, people pitch

Mark:

their invention

Sarah:

or something to investors? Yes. And Murdoch was on it.

Mark:

Murdoch was on with one of the constables.

Sarah:

Well, unlike the real Dragon's Den, like they didn't like recreate that in a new Murdoch.

Mark:

No. And like they were in the back stage area pretending they'd never seen cameras before. They did it all in character.

Sarah:

What? Yeah. What?

Mark:

Yeah. It was it was rough to watch. I'll put the video in the show notes, but, I could not last

Sarah:

through it. Was Murdoch there pitching one of his inventions?

Mark:

Yes. Was. For investors? He was pitching one of his inventions for investors.

Sarah:

That is

Mark:

Now Murdoch has done such good things in the last little while. The the podcast they do has the real people on it.

Sarah:

Yeah. Yeah.

Mark:

They have... Jason Muse does the hosting of it. They have a known person doing the hosting. They have the characters and the actors and the producers and the people from behind the scenes on it. It is it makes completely complete sense what they did with their podcast as opposed to, I don't know, Midsummer.

Mark:

But wow. It was painful though. It was like when I was in in in the sixth grade, there was a child, a poor child, poor poor child who got up in front of the class, and his name was Jonathan. And he got up in the... In front of the class because the teacher had told him that the entire class would like to hear his battle of the planets song.

Mark:

Song? Song.

Sarah:

That's a mean teacher.

Mark:

So without That music teacher

Sarah:

was entertaining themselves. Without music.

Mark:

Without music. I'm a

Sarah:

cappella battle of the planets song. Song.

Mark:

Without music, young Jonathan sang the Battle of the Planet song. This was not me. With enthusiasm, I With enthusiasm.

Sarah:

Because I've been convinced that everybody wanted to hear it.

Mark:

To which... Oh, so it was a good song. Battle of the Planets is a good show. Jonathan is a good dude. It should

Sarah:

not have been was evil. That's an evil teacher.

Mark:

That's an evil, evil teacher.

Sarah:

Just like putting... What is his name? Besson Yannick?

Mark:

Yes.

Sarah:

Up to this. I... Like Everybody will love it.

Mark:

I could see Jonathan from where I was in the room when that happened, and that is forty years ago. That's... We have a new term now.

Sarah:

Yes. Murdaugh word. Murdaugh word. When you do something with enthusiasm Yeah. That gives other people secondhand embarrassment so badly, they don't wanna watch.

Mark:

Murdock word. That is Murdock word.

Sarah:

I haven't invented this device that allows you to track people. You mean like a tracker?

Mark:

Yes.

Sarah:

We have

Mark:

those now. Is the exact device that they have. Oh. And Henry has it on his back.

Sarah:

Oh, Henry. Because everything he invents in the show actually exists in reality. He just supposedly came up with it first or whatever. And hey. So everything he would pitch, they would say, we already have that.

Mark:

And hey, much like... Oh, I'm really awkward. Much like the comedy sketch that is Mr. Bean doing Spider Plant Man.

Sarah:

That's very funny, though.

Mark:

They're doing something. Okay? The phoning it in that the Midsummer people are doing now

Sarah:

Yeah.

Mark:

Is just... It's it's not even awkward.

Sarah:

No. It's not even more awkward. Yeah. It's even... Yeah.

Mark:

It's just sad. And then you look at what Brokenwood does, which is all on social media.

Sarah:

Yep. All very genuine.

Mark:

All very genuine.

Sarah:

Non scripted.

Mark:

It's super cool and fun, and and those people do a great job.

Sarah:

But he he should have pitched is the time machine that he used to get to current day. Yes. Because that would have got some investment.

Mark:

Well, never mind. They they the thing is they didn't learn this lesson because there is a Murdoch web series. We mentioned it, I think, in which George is transformed into the future of Toronto, and it's like life on Mars, but with Murdoch.

Sarah:

Oh. It was bad enough when George showed up as an old man in the Oh. The series with the

Mark:

That still breaks my heart.

Sarah:

Haired girl who's a detective. Yeah. Which is not a bad show. I'm not gonna say it's a good show.

Mark:

George It's a show. Name? Georg... Georgie? Georgie or something.

Mark:

It's a show. But George shows up as himself Yeah. After World War one. Yeah. And World War one was not good to George.

Sarah:

And he's got fake wrinkles on and stuff. It's He's like, I'm an old George now. It's tough.

Mark:

Wow. They're doing something. They're doing something.

Sarah:

But they didn't happen.

Mark:

They should have stayed with the podcast.

Sarah:

Some ideas should stay on the Post it and not become Murdock word.

Mark:

Yes.

Sarah:

For a 1010% stake in my business, I'll give you these binoculars that let you see in the dark.

Mark:

Oh god.

Sarah:

George, crank it. Oh. Oh, that's bad.

Mark:

Okay. What have we been watching, Sarah?

Sarah:

Marble Manor,

Mark:

which were Marble Hall.

Sarah:

Marble Hall, which we are trying to get through.

Mark:

Yeah. I'm not... Like, I've figured it out

Sarah:

at this point. First two. Yeah. I I really don't care for this one.

Mark:

I think she has no agency here. She doesn't do anything. She reacts to people doing things to her, and I think there's no spunk to her.

Sarah:

Anthony Horowitz is a better author than this.

Mark:

Yes.

Sarah:

I don't know what they've done. Cause I've not read the book, if there is a book for this one.

Mark:

There is a book.

Sarah:

I've not read it. I read the first one. I really liked it. I like his writing.

Mark:

Well, and the other part I didn't like is the whole stolen artifacts part of the story in the past is just a giant piece of weird coral glued onto the story with way too much

Sarah:

Oh, and remember craft glue. It's not real. It's fictional. Yeah. In in fiction.

Sarah:

Yeah. It's double fiction.

Mark:

It's it's fictiony fiction that feels a bit glued on. And she's being framed.

Sarah:

Oh, no. I don't really care. Yeah. Susan Rylan has like lost her glimmer for me.

Mark:

We figured out who was framing her almost instantly.

Sarah:

Well, let's not give it away or anything. So I don't know. Maybe you all like it more than we do. Maybe we're missing something about that makes it more endearing than I think, or more challenging than I think. But at this point, we have only one episode to watch.

Sarah:

And frankly, I don't even care if we watch it or not. And that's disappointing.

Mark:

We have a lot of good television to watch, including, I'm gonna say, Tommy and Tuppence.

Sarah:

You like it?

Mark:

I do.

Sarah:

Why do you like it?

Mark:

I like it because it does everything Tommy and Tuppence is supposed to do. There's friendly communicative banner between them and there's a you better not do that. Oh, you did that, you know, feel to it. They make nods to the to the Christie stories. As far as we can tell, we've only watched three episodes now.

Mark:

And we're we're through the... We're halfway through the the Duchess of Malfi episode. Imelda Staunton is a star

Sarah:

Yes. In this show. She plays the aunt. Yes. Right?

Sarah:

I didn't She's my favorite character.

Mark:

I didn't realize she was gonna be as important as she

Sarah:

is. And

Mark:

she is fantastic.

Sarah:

And she kind of is the framing story.

Mark:

She's the framing around everything. I like the actors. I think they did a good job. I think it's not like I've found with some cozies lately, like, that they... They're not serious enough.

Sarah:

Mhmm.

Mark:

And they're like, I don't like, I'm the gritty detective who has to yell at my boss and all I do is drink and my wife is dead. I don't either. Don't like that. But I also don't like, oh, well, people died.

Sarah:

Yeah. The the Agatha Raisin end of it.

Mark:

And it's not Agatha Raisin.

Sarah:

No. It's not.

Mark:

It has charms to it.

Sarah:

It does have charm to it. The actors are good. It's got a good budget. Yep. It doesn't look cheap or anything like The things I don't like about it are the overt modernizations.

Sarah:

Like the first episode has to have an influencer in it.

Mark:

Yeah, I can see that.

Sarah:

They could have done without that.

Mark:

Yeah.

Sarah:

But I really like Tommy's neighbor, the guy who runs the bar. Yep. I really like him. Yep. I like the interplay between Tommy and Tuppence.

Sarah:

Yep. I don't much care for her back story. I don't think it's necessary,

Mark:

but we

Sarah:

don't have to go into that.

Mark:

Have a feeling they're going to drop a lot of it because she had this big backstory and then they were just like, You're moving in.

Sarah:

Got it. And it's probably for the best to just kinda let it go. Yeah. Because the thing about Tommy and Tuppence is that they're both in this postwar lostness.

Mark:

Yes.

Sarah:

And they're both kinda broke and kind of faking it till they make it. Now And that's that's kind of fun.

Mark:

I I wish there was a bit more

Sarah:

of that.

Mark:

Yeah. I wish there was a bit more of that. He's a writer in the story in the in the show.

Sarah:

In the new show. Yeah.

Mark:

Apparently, a fantastically successful writer. I'm gonna say the people who are writing this show have never written a book.

Sarah:

I wouldn't say that.

Mark:

Because I'm not sure they know how it works.

Sarah:

You would know since you finished two this morning.

Mark:

Yes. So He

Sarah:

walks in the kitchen and he just says, well, the books are done. Like, What? Yeah. Wait a minute. What?

Sarah:

You finished them? Both of them? They're done? You did it? Yes.

Sarah:

You did it?

Mark:

Yes, I did do it.

Sarah:

And I was like, Shazam, oh my gosh. Congratulations, that's awesome. Kiss, kiss, kiss, hug, hug, hug. High five, fist bump, elbow bump. It bumped.

Sarah:

Does she bump? And you're like, yeah.

Mark:

When are we gonna record?

Sarah:

They're done. What's next?

Mark:

Dude, stop and celebrate I wrote for a two cozy mystery books that I've been releasing serially as chapters

Sarah:

At the same on Patreon.

Mark:

At the same time. People have said such incredibly nice things about them. I will have finalized books sometime soon. I'm taking a break now. Yes, I will have finalized books.

Mark:

So if you've been like, I don't know about this serial thing, I just want to read Mark's books. You will be able to buy my book at Books soon. Both both in print and in.

Sarah:

I just thought we needed to mention it and celebrate it because, oh my gosh, you finished them.

Mark:

I feel very happy that I finished them.

Sarah:

As you should. Pat on the back. Congratulations. Good job. Way to go.

Sarah:

Oh my gosh. I can't believe you did that.

Mark:

I don't know how, but I will celebrate and I will take a break.

Sarah:

Okay, good. Okay. Back to things we've been watching. You've been rewatching Alan. Yes.

Sarah:

The Nio Marsh books Yes. TV series made after the books.

Mark:

And this is a familiar trope. He's a fancy man, but he's a copper.

Sarah:

He's a semi aristocratic guy. Yes. These are post World War one? Yes. Pre World War two?

Mark:

Yes. And some of them go beyond World War two.

Sarah:

Yeah. If you've never seen or read Allen

Mark:

It's kinda like Linley in Poirot times.

Sarah:

Kind of. Like, they're not I'm an old alcoholic and I gotta beat up my boss and my wife is dead. They're not gritty like that.

Mark:

And they wear nice suits,

Sarah:

that's But they are subdued. Yes. I would say.

Mark:

They're they're definitely

Sarah:

They make Poirot look a little bit slapstick sometimes.

Mark:

I I would say so.

Sarah:

But they're like... They're comfy.

Mark:

They are comfy.

Sarah:

Not cozy, but they're comfy.

Mark:

What I didn't realize is there was a pilot three years before the show started with a different actor playing Allen. I watched the pilot. I did other stuff while I was watching it.

Sarah:

Pilots are like that. Yeah. Like the Murdoch movies that came out before the TV show. Yeah. Yuck.

Sarah:

I just don't like them.

Mark:

Yep.

Sarah:

So if you've never seen Alan, you should give it a shot. It's out there.

Mark:

Easy to find. A L L-Robbins. It was a good palate cleanser after Endeavor.

Sarah:

Yeah. So for your... These are the shows that Mark watches with his eyes closed at the end of his work day.

Mark:

Yes.

Sarah:

It's a little nappy time show. It's excellent for naps. Because there's not a lot of gunfire or screaming or anything

Mark:

like There's no shouting or

Sarah:

It's kinda dark.

Mark:

And there are lots of people who you know.

Sarah:

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Mark:

Like everyone at the end of this said, what are we going to do now? And they all said, well, we'll go be on Midsummer.

Sarah:

Yeah. Pretty much. Yes. Also this week, I've been listening to, Uncanny, which I've mentioned lately, I've mentioned it before, the BBC series about unsolved supernatural spooky things with Danny Robbins. They're doing this really fun thing called the Halloween Countdown, where every day they release a new little mysterious thing, and they're like all under five minutes.

Sarah:

Some of them are a lot shorter than five minutes.

Mark:

Oh, I love

Sarah:

But it's like just a little taste of what was that about?

Mark:

This happened. I I love that.

Sarah:

Can you explain it? We can.

Mark:

I love that sort of stuff.

Sarah:

It's really fun.

Mark:

Speaking of the the lady who, did the podcast about the little town,

Sarah:

what was her name? What was Weird and the Wade.

Mark:

Weird and the Wade. She emailed us and had the nicest things to say and said we were welcome on her show anytime.

Sarah:

We ought to team up on something.

Mark:

Definitely... We we have a couple of team ups in the works.

Sarah:

Yeah. Couple of fun things.

Mark:

Yep. Couple of fun things that were

Sarah:

Oh, I forgot. One of the things about Tommy and Tuppence that confused me that maybe somebody else who's watched it can explain. Where do the blunt detectives business cards come from? Yeah. Maybe I looked away and I missed it,

Mark:

but

Sarah:

I don't know why Tuppence has them.

Mark:

It... It's weird. It They were in his apartment, but I don't know why they were there.

Sarah:

I don't I don't either. Yeah. And we must have missed it.

Mark:

Speaking of us missing important details while we're watching things, we got a nice letter from a friend, from a viewer. Barry. Yes, Barry, who had a question for us.

Sarah:

I've always wanted to ask, you both have full time jobs, you do the podcast, you have three kids. How do you find the time to watch so much TV?

Mark:

I felt very bad reading this email, Sarah.

Sarah:

Why?

Mark:

Because I said he missed half

Sarah:

the things that they do. The answer is-

Mark:

Run a comic book company.

Sarah:

Yeah, write two novels. Write two novels. Answer is that, if you care, Barry does, we tend to watch one to two hours of TV a night. And the first hour is usually while we're making and eating dinner. Yes.

Sarah:

Unless we're sitting down to watch something to take notes on it.

Mark:

Now this goes, it expands and contracts based on the season. As we've mentioned before,

Sarah:

this is the crazy season in our house.

Mark:

Crazy season. So we only get maybe two hours a night.

Sarah:

If that. If that. And sometimes two hours of TV is actually an hour of actual TV because we pause it and end up, you know, letting the dog out

Mark:

and And it's actually making

Sarah:

dinner and blah, blah, blah.

Mark:

And then we watch Brilliant little that two things happen. One, midsummer releases in December at the end of the semester when we have holidays.

Sarah:

Yep. That is perfect. Yes.

Mark:

And then two, Brokenwood releases at the end of the second of the spring semester when we have more free time to do stuff.

Sarah:

Yes.

Mark:

So that they... I do not want them to change their schedules at all. They are perfect.

Sarah:

If we had if we had, been asked when they should release new episodes, that's when we would have told them to do it.

Mark:

That that is when we would have told them.

Sarah:

We try to come up with a question for these clues and reviews. Yes. Something we can talk about with each and that listeners can give us their ideas about. Yes. And you have come up with a really good question this week about, do you prefer mysteries that have no supernatural elements or are mysteries that have some supernatural elements okay?

Mark:

Now we need some assumptions at the beginning of this. And one assumption that we both have and we talked about and totally agree is you can't switch wheelhouses.

Sarah:

No, it has to be consistent.

Mark:

It has to be supernatural.

Sarah:

It either takes place in a world where supernatural things happen or they don't.

Mark:

Yeah.

Sarah:

So when Poirot encounters something that's kind of spooky, you know, it's not supernatural. He's gonna figure it out.

Mark:

But I also love that. I love the the the cold opening that looks so incredibly supernatural that you're like, and and Jonathan Creek, love him or hate him, is perfect

Sarah:

for this. They're really good at that.

Mark:

The first time you watch a Jonathan Creek, you're like, my mama, my mama, how did that happen?

Sarah:

You're like, that's impossible.

Mark:

That is impossible.

Sarah:

But once you know how Jonathan Creek works, you know, it's not. Yeah. You just haven't figured it out yet. Yes. But he will.

Mark:

And I also am a long time believer and absolutely agree with that. I do not believe anything supernatural actually exists, but we can explore those feelings and those stories and those themes through literature, especially in comic books and movies and TV because that's built for it.

Sarah:

I... At first, I was like, I don't know if I real... If I even know of any good mysteries that are set in worlds where supernatural things are allowed to happen. And then I was like, oh, there's this one and this one and this... Oh, and that one and that.

Sarah:

Like, I have a list here. The Laundry Files Yep. By Charles Strauss.

Mark:

Yep.

Sarah:

The Odd Job series by Haida Goody.

Mark:

Yes. That's the one with the giant guy who's the DS that we're not sure. Okay.

Sarah:

No, that's a different one. Oddjobs is the one that's like the MI5 agency that actually interacts with gods from other planes that come to Edinburgh, I think it's somewhere. Rivers of London series by Ben Aronovich,

Mark:

What these are all I love is the Rivers of London is about wizards. Yeah. Okay. It is it is fantastic. Sherlock Holmes meets Harry Potter.

Sarah:

They are a division of the Metropolitan Police of London who do magic stuff.

Mark:

And what I love is they are exactly the same way I love the the match company. What is the name?

Sarah:

Brian May.

Mark:

The Brian and May books. Mhmm. Which which do the fake out. They're like, oh, it's supernatural.

Sarah:

It never

Mark:

is. It never is.

Sarah:

No. But in the Rivers Of London series, is.

Mark:

Yes. Like, I love both of those.

Sarah:

They are a specialist division who deal with the ookie wookie stuff. Yep. And the other cops who don't are always like, oh, great. This is one of those ookie wookie cases. Yes.

Sarah:

They're call in.

Mark:

And that's the molderification.

Sarah:

Yes. It's very X file.

Mark:

If that's a word I could use the molderification of what and it relates to another television show from the 70s, which was Night Stalker, which was like you can investigate and have mysteries with batshit weird stuff.

Sarah:

Sewer monsters. Yes. That's a thing.

Mark:

The Fluke Monster.

Sarah:

Okay. The Ishmael Jones series by Simon R Green that I mentioned just a few episodes ago. Also supernatural, very good mysteries.

Mark:

Dresden Files. That's a that's a

Sarah:

That's another one.

Mark:

Are they set in Canada? They did a television show in Canada.

Sarah:

I don't remember. Okay. But again, consistent.

Mark:

Yes.

Sarah:

Once you get past the first little bit where the main character is like, wait a minute, that stuff exists?

Mark:

Yeah.

Sarah:

Yes. Okay. And that's the world that you're in? Yeah. It's consistent.

Sarah:

It's cool. There are real actual criminals that are not supernatural.

Mark:

Yes.

Sarah:

But the supernatural stuff is supernatural. Yeah. But it's fun.

Mark:

Yes.

Sarah:

I think they're really fun. Now, the real question I want to ask you is what if you added supernatural stuff to non supernatural stories?

Mark:

So maybe maybe Poirot's little idiosyncrasies are like little spells that he's doing to try to figure out what's going on.

Sarah:

Like, the reason why he has to have two exactly sized eggs for breakfast is some of incantation he

Mark:

has to do. Incantation. And Marple's a witch. That woman's a witch. She gets everybody to talk to her.

Sarah:

I think she's she's making up spells when she's knitting because she's certainly not knitting anything anybody can wear. No. It's gotta be for a different purpose.

Mark:

Not.

Sarah:

Though I think in Poirot, it would be miss Lemon.

Mark:

I think so.

Sarah:

She's the magical one, not Poirot.

Mark:

Well, if you know anything about that actress, she's whippety woo, hippety dippy.

Sarah:

She does terror readings

Mark:

online, does readings and all sorts

Sarah:

of things. What about about Midsummer? Could it be magical wise? Without becoming more awkward.

Mark:

This is weird. Okay. But I see Midsummer kind of like Sunnydale. Buffy? Yes.

Mark:

Because Buffy has all these weird things happen

Sarah:

to That's Buffy the vampire slayer that that Mark is talking about.

Mark:

Because they live on a hell mouth. And I'm a little worried that maybe there's a hell mouth in in Midsummer that caught like...

Sarah:

It would explain why there are so many murders there.

Mark:

And maybe maybe Joyce is the Devil.

Sarah:

Don't go that far. You don't have to go that far. But... Okay. So get your shoe horn out.

Mark:

Okay.

Sarah:

Because we gotta like

Mark:

really wedge. Gotta wedge Okay.

Sarah:

Lots of murders happen in midsummer, nobody seems to think that's weird. Okay. Right?

Mark:

An enormous amount of murder happens in midsummer.

Sarah:

But the people who live there don't go running and screaming out of Midsommar County to live somewhere safer. No. So there must be a reason why they're willing to stay.

Mark:

Yeah, maybe they're compelled to stay.

Sarah:

Yeah, or maybe there's a deal. Maybe. Because everybody in midsummer has a nice cottage, Yes. That would cost gazillions of dollars. Always talking about, Oh, here's this unemployed person living in a multimillion dollar cottage that just has one rusty bike.

Sarah:

Oh, it's so derelict, whatever. Maybe the deal is that you can live in midsummer and you can be comfortable, not rich, but comfortable. But the deal is you run the risk of either becoming a murderer

Mark:

Being a murderer. Or a victim. Or being blackmailed because there's a lot of

Sarah:

that too. Yeah. Well, they usually get murdered too.

Mark:

Yes. So

Sarah:

So then why is Barn to be there? He make... Is he, like, doing penance

Mark:

or something? It's the forces of good projected into that or he's doing penance.

Sarah:

Like it's his is his duty. Yes, he's Buffy.

Mark:

Yes. Barnaby is Buffy. Oh, oh, wait, wait. Not only that, this evil is so horrific. It's infected the ground so deeply that it also has risen in New Zealand.

Sarah:

It went right through the core of the planet and

Mark:

Right came out through of the the core of the planet.

Sarah:

So there's a hell mouth in Midsummer and

Mark:

A hell the other end.

Sarah:

A Hellenus?

Mark:

Hellenus. And

Sarah:

broken one? Because it's the same deal there.

Mark:

It's the same deal. So

Sarah:

they've exported this deal with the devil thing.

Mark:

Frodo, don't fall in the Hellenus.

Sarah:

That's what happened to Jared. Him and his big rubber boots.

Mark:

Scott fell in the Hellenus. He's known. And we can't say that.

Sarah:

He's sick.

Mark:

We can't say that because then we would all know.

Sarah:

Yes. We can't acknowledge it.

Mark:

If Scott shows up on Brokenwood next year, confirm.

Sarah:

Even when we're having our salsa night Yes. We cannot admit Nope. That the devil is right outside. But if that's the case, man, these people don't even subconsciously know. No.

Sarah:

Because they do stuff like walk in the dark.

Mark:

It's like the pines and and, and twin... It's like they're living in Twin Peaks.

Sarah:

There's no log lady to make it obvious that there's weirdness going on. Does it mean?

Mark:

My wife did a Log Lady reference. I'm

Sarah:

I've completely in Log Lady never seen it, but I know that much. So then when Barnaby retires, does he get to leave?

Mark:

I think so.

Sarah:

Or does he get fed to the Hellenus? No. Because once he retired, he was gone. We've never seen him again.

Mark:

Him and Joyce get fed to the Hellenus with Cully in the background going, why do I have to go? I'm not retiring.

Sarah:

That's that's why the second detective also has to be a Barnaby. It runs in their blood.

Mark:

Yes. It's blood magic. Yes. Which means which means

Sarah:

We have figured this out.

Mark:

It's now confirmed that Mike is a Barnaby.

Sarah:

No. No. There would be a different line there. Shepherd. Like, every continent.

Mark:

Shepherd. Shepherd. Shepherd. There we go.

Sarah:

Every continent has their own. Right? So I guess so. There must there must be.

Mark:

Did Breen really go to the Solomon Islands? I don't know. He fell in the Hellenes. Wow. We have gone off topic.

Sarah:

We figured it out, though.

Mark:

We figured it out.

Sarah:

And is is... Who would it be for Canada?

Mark:

To Murdoch in the time traveling, Alanis.

Sarah:

Oh, he's he's resisting it big time, though, because he... That show has been done for a long time,

Mark:

and they just keep going. Murdoch, but it was in the few... In the present tense, it's Jessica Lansbury.

Sarah:

Oh, North America. Yeah. Jessica, definitely.

Mark:

Yep. Murder murder she hell mouthed.

Sarah:

Because the the hell mouth closes in Toronto and shows up in Nantucket. It's like whack a mole. When it opens again, a new person has to Who take on the knows? Where is it now? Watch out.

Sarah:

It's coming. That mean Murdoch and Jessica are related?

Mark:

I get... Maybe. Maybe. Maybe Jessica is one of George's offspring instead of one of his heirs.

Sarah:

She does have that stupid nephew. Yes. He is kind of George like.

Mark:

Yes, he

Sarah:

is. We might be onto something here. They're all connected. It's all connected. We need a wall and some yellow red yarn right now.

Sarah:

Yeah. Red yarn, pushpins. We can figure this out. Bye, Maniacs.

Mark:

Bye, Maniacs. Thanks for joining us on the Mystery Maniacs podcast. If you enjoyed our crazy podcast today, don't miss out on future episodes. Follow us on social media for updates, beyond the scenes content, and exclusive sneak peeks. Subscribe, like, and share to spread the word.

Mark:

Bye, Maniacs.