The Employee Life Cycle - Part 6

Part six of the Employee Life Cycle series focuses on one of the most overlooked and most powerful leadership moments in a restaurant: how people leave.

This episode explains why off-boarding should be treated as a normal, intentional part of the employee life cycle, not as a failure or an uncomfortable afterthought. We discuss how to handle resignations with professionalism, how to manage terminations in a way that protects morale and culture, and why knowledge transfer and transition planning matter just as much on someone’s last day as they do on their first.

You’ll hear practical guidance on ending employment relationships well, because how someone exits directly affects the trust, stability, and engagement of the team members who remain.

The episode also takes a realistic look at exit interviews. We cover when they are actually useful, when they tend to produce noise instead of insight, and how to create a safer environment for honest feedback. Most importantly, we explain how operators can stop chasing individual stories and start identifying patterns that point to real operational or leadership issues.

This conversation closes the employee life cycle by showing how thoughtful offboarding and well-run exit feedback can become among your most valuable tools for improving systems, strengthening culture, and reducing future turnover.

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Danny: Welcome again, everybody, to The Restaurant Roadmap Podcast, sponsored by Synergy Restaurant Consultants. Today’s subject: the finalization and a recap of the employee lifecycle series. Thrilled to have, again, Chef Eric. We’ll let you go first this time. How you doing, buddy?

Eric: I’m doing great. How’s everybody out there?

Danny: Amanda Stokes, our training operations all around good gal. How are you, ma’am?

Amanda: I’m doing well, thank you, Danny.

Danny: So, we have gone through the whole cycle over these last five editions. You know, what I wanted to do was, sort of, do a rapid fire recap, starting at the top, going from the bottom, just final perspective, importance, highlight anything that the three of us collectively want to make sure that we reinforce, and encourage everyone to go back from the beginning and have a look-see because there’s a lot a lot of great information that these two have provided that really can help you improve your operations, improve your culture in terms of your employees, lower your turnover, and deliver the best service you can to your guests.

So, we’re going to start at the top. I’m just going to call out each of the things that we discussed previously, and just give me a quick blurb, you guys, on final thoughts and a quick recount. So, the first item we talked about was talent sourcing, finding, and where do you find these people? Eric, you can go first.

Eric: Lots of websites out there that you can use, Indeed, stuff like that, you know, but for me, I always like to try to get referrals from people that are currently working for me, especially for hourly roles, right? Those folks know who they want to work with. They’re going to spend a little bit more time training them and working with them and making sure they’re successful because they want to work with people they like, and they’re taking a little bit of ownership in that person. I know we talked a lot about referral bonuses as well. You know, there’s a lot of ways to get talent in the door, so just exhaust all of those resources before you give up.

Amanda: I think being proactive in regards to recruiting instead of reactive so that you have the time and space to make the right choices, and never underestimating how important your culture is to finding new team members because if you have a great place to work, they’re going to be looking for you before you need them.

Danny: Yeah, and just to dovetail on that, I was going to add, manpower planning every week at your managers’ meetings: where are we at, how are we looking, what’s coming up, who’s leaving, who’s going to school, always staying ahead of the curve, so you’re not hiring out of desperation because that ends up being the kiss of death. Okay, top line, recruiting. Amanda?

Amanda: I would just say that the brands that have a great presence on social media find people to apply to their job as soon as it’s posted, and I would say that having a very fast track for people that are applying, so that it doesn’t take six interviews to work for your organization. Make it easy for the candidates that are applying.

Eric: Amanda touched on it. People aren’t applying for a job that they need in two weeks; they’re applying for a job that they need today. So, the longer you drag out the process, the more you’re going to weed out people from being potential employees for you. You make it quick, you make it easy, you’re going to bring people on board a lot quicker, and you’re going to get better talent.

Danny: Yeah, and I think I would suggest also, avoid the, a great person walks in the door, and the answer is well, “We only interview on Tuesday. Today’s Thursday.” Okay, grab the opportunity right while it’s there. Strike when the iron’s hot. Hiring. Amanda, I know you love this one. You have a great thing here, so go ahead.

Amanda: Yeah, I think unconventional interviews are the best. So, you can put somebody on the spot who’s going to be a server for you and say, “Hey, sell me this pen,” and see how they react. Also, having a great interview structure versus just your gut instinct will help you, and then making sure that you’re looking for red flags that pop up during the interview. Remember, if someone’s coming in for an interview, this is theoretically the best they’ll be.

Eric: I like to interview people and try to figure out how they’re going to fit within the organization that I’m working with because everybody’s not for everybody. If that person’s a great person, but they’re not going to fit in with the rest of the team, they’re not going to last, so it doesn’t make sense to try to fit a square peg into a circle hole. Make sure you got a square peg for a square hole.

Danny: Yeah, just for me, I think it’s really important to have more than one person interview somebody and then put your head together because different people see different things, and I think that’s just another safeguard to make sure that you’re going to make a smart decision if you decide to hire somebody. On boarding. Amanda, I’m going to let you go first because this is your favorite topic of this whole series.

Amanda: I have one thing to say: orientation is paperwork, onboarding is connection and confidence. So, creating that great first day experience either makes somebody think to themselves, “I’ve joined a great organization. I could see myself going here,” or just sitting somebody down in a corner and leaving them there for, you know, four hours to watch videos, make somebody think, “All right, I need to find another job.”

Danny: And I just want to say that very first comment you made for me was a mic drop moment, okay? Everybody should remember that because that’s really, really critical. Eric, can you top that?

Eric: No, but I’ll add, you know, Amanda says it all the time: a person makes a decision whether they’re going to stay right on that first day. So, making sure that you give them the great experience that they deserve, and show them the value that they’re going to bring to the team and how the team can support them to become what they want to be within your organization, those are the key points.

Danny: We’ve been on a roll today. This is really good stuff, I want to tell you.

Eric: Good coffee this morning.

Danny: There you go. Did you put anything in it?

Eric: [laugh]. No comment.

Danny: No—[laugh]. Training. The importance of training, consistency, process. Eric?

Eric: So, training is one of the most important parts of the hiring system, right? It’s been said many times, I’d rather train somebody and have them leave than not train them and let them stay. So, take your time with the people. Make sure that you have a great training system and that people are not being skirted around that training system. They go from A to B to C to D to make sure that they know everything they need to know when they get done training and are an important member of your team at that point. I’ve seen many times where a manager skips training and puts somebody in a position, and within two weeks, 30 days, you’re rehiring for that position.

Danny: Yeah. There was another mic drop there. That first comment, that was a good one too, so got to remember that one. So, Amanda?

Amanda: Eric really put a nice bow on it, but I’ll say this: knowing how to do the job isn’t just enough; it’s understanding expectations and the culture. So, I think I’ve talked a little bit about Chick-fil-A, and in their training system, for the first two to three weeks, all they want you to do is learn culture because if you can fit into the culture, you can execute any of the tasks that they ask you to do.

Danny: And then to reinforce what Eric said, I think it’s important that they understand the why, probably more than the how, right, because that’s what reinforces, and they get it, right? So, integration. Amanda?

Amanda: So, for me, integration happens when someone feels accepted, they trust the people around them, and they feel safe to either say what’s working or not what’s working. So, I think the best teams create that from day one, and the best leaders create a culture where that is the center of everything they do.

Eric: I love how you used the term leaders there, Amanda, and not manager, right? You manage product, you lead people, and you want to bring those people into your team and make them feel like they want to be there, over and over again every day. So, that’s what’s important there.

Danny: Ongoing development and cross-training. What’s the value there? Eric, you go first.

Eric: There are benefits for both parties, right? So, if you’re on-growing, developing your people, and bringing them more skills and more abilities, then they can help your organization grow, become more efficient. You gain labor efficiencies, profit at the bottom line. It’s just a no-brainer, and the folks that do it the best just continue to grow, and you see that succession planning that we like to talk about because people are gaining knowledge across all levels of the organization.

Amanda: I think the progression in any brand should be clearly laid out on day one. So, if I start today, I should know what it’s going to take to become a general manager and above and beyond. And then there’s clearly delineated training and timelines that go along with that, and modules, and so that there’s no question—if I want to progress my career—exactly what I have to do.

Danny: Yeah, and I think salary reviews and pay increases aren’t just about how long I’ve been here; it’s what have you done to help the organization, right? Meaning, I know more than one station, and that all gets down to this whole cross-training and everything else. All right, Amanda, performance management and feedback.

Amanda: So, you just hit the nail on the head before, just knowing that there’s scheduled quarterly reviews or monthly reviews, and that they truly dig into performance, and they’re not just check this mark off the list. Some of the best leaders come prepared to really talk about your performance, and then some not so great leaders do it because I’m checking this off the list so I can say that I had my one-on-one with you.

Danny: Very good. Eric, anything you want to add?

Eric: Yes, I’ve always been successful with one-on-ones and performance management by putting the onus on the person that I’m coaching. So, if you’re going to sit down with me for a one-on-one, you’re bringing me the agenda. What do you want to talk about? How can we help you gain what you need to gain? And then I add in the coaching points I need to add in throughout that conversation. But if I sit down with an agenda and pass it across to them, and we talk about what I want to talk about, I own your development. If you bring those, you own your development.

Danny: We touched on it, but Eric, quickly, you want to just hit us on succession planning. Follow up on Amanda’s points.

Eric: It’s a great thought process throughout every part of the organization. You want to make sure from—your dishwasher knows what the next step is to get to the next spot, you’re busser in the front-of-the house. How do I become a to-go person or a host or eventually a server? So, that not falls on them only, but it also falls on you to set that path up like a Candyland map that they understand what they have to do to get to the next level. And you have to start pushing people to where you see your needs coming up in the next three, six, nine months, so that way, you’re not falling behind the eight ball when someone turns over.

Danny: All right, let’s talk about retention. Why do they stay? Why do they leave? Amanda?

Amanda: So, people stay for leadership and culture, not slogans. You can have the best motto on the wall, the best cultural beliefs. They stay because people do what they say and they live the culture.

Danny: Eric?

Eric: We were together on a project recently, and we were in a restaurant that had some of the best slogans and mottos that I’ve ever seen anywhere, but at the end of the day, they were just wallpaper. They didn’t live it. They didn’t use them. It was sad.

Danny: As they say, talk is cheap, right? Action is [unintelligible 00:13:53], and give you their best performance and believability from everybody. So. Amanda, offboarding?

Amanda: So, we’re talking about the employee lifecycle. Treat offboarding as just a part of the life cycle, not a failure. Turnover that’s handled well strengthens your culture.

Danny: Again, I would just add again: make sure that you did your job as a leader before you terminate somebody. You can’t blame the employee if you didn’t give them the time, the training, the tools to set them up for success. Exit interviews, Eric?

Eric: Make sure your exit interview is impactful for both the person leaving your organization and the organization in the long run. Don’t just give it the lip service. Don’t check a box. If you’re going to do it, do it right. Filter that information back to everybody in your organization that needs to hear it, and do something with it. Act on it. If you’re not going to do that, then don’t do an exit interview.

Danny: Okay, I think our last one. Amanda, I’m going to throw it to you. Exit interviews. Why do them? Because in our experience, a lot of people don’t.

Amanda: I think that exit interviews are valuable if the organization is using the data to drive change for the team members that are not leaving, and then look at is there a pattern, and then how do we discuss that with the team, and then how do we make that not part of the next person’s exit interview?

Danny: Eric, anything else?

Eric: No, I think this was a great recap of all six episodes—or all five episodes; this is the sixth one—and you know, go back, listen to each individual episode if you need to gain more clarity or glean any more information from it, but this was very impactful for people out there.

Danny: You guys did an amazing job. I just want to say on the exit interviews, I think we as a group care about people. I think we’re passionate about people, and a big part of the exit interview, I think, is if someone has some challenges, you’re helping them and hopefully getting them better for their next job. And if they were great for you, I think it’s a time to thank those people for all the great work they did to help you become successful as a leader. And so, I think it’s a great two-way all around to really show how much you care about the people in your organization. I think that means a lot when you get back, again, to culture, leadership, and everything else.

So, all right, folks, that’s a wrap. Thank you all, Eric and Amanda. Remember comments, feedback, suggestions, [e-mail]. Eric, great work, great stuff. Thank you. Amanda, same to you. And we’ll be in touch, and we’ll be on again soon. Take care, everybody.

Eric: Bye, y’all.

Amanda: Bye.

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