DVD Size Hail and 400mph Winds | Jesse Hawila

Show Notes

When the weather gets weird, the movies get weirder, and the music gets loud—Mike Rhyner is the guy you want steering the conversation. This time, he’s joined by Sunset Lounge transplant Rob Ervin, who swaps his regular hangout for the Dark Companion studio, and the one and only four-time returning champion Jesse Hawila, DFW’s favorite meteorologist with a knack for dropping truth bombs about the skies above and the hype below.

From comparing this summer to the legendary “magical summer of 2007” to calling out fear-mongering weather reports, Jesse brings the forecast you should be hearing—minus the doom-and-gloom clickbait. Rob brings the pop culture heat, from cult film deep dives (hello, Tommy Wiseau) to metal bands with drummers who seem part human, part machine. And somewhere between Stevie Nicks stories, death metal drumming admiration, and casual Emmy drop-ins, this episode turns into a full-blown jam session of weather wisdom, movie geekery, and music nerdery.

Come for the storms, stay for the shredding.

Chapters:
0:00 – Welcome to the Weather Rock Show – Mike, Rob, and Jesse set the stage.
5:18 – 2007 vs. 2023 – Comparing summers worth talking about.
9:06 – The Weather Hype Machine – Why social media storms aren’t always real storms.
13:50 – Stage Fright Forecast – Jesse’s surprising #1 fear.
18:05 – Movie Geek Throwdown – Rob takes the mic with film trivia and passion.
20:37 – Tommy Wiseau & Cult Film Chaos – Behind the bizarre screenings.
27:26 – CBD & Sports Crossfade – Healing and The OG podcast talk.
30:20 – From Blues to Blast Beats – Musical taste whiplash in the best way.
37:50 – Death Metal Drummers = Cyborgs? – Jesse makes his case.
40:55 – Stevie Nicks, Floods, & Fate – Silver Spring stories.
41:53 – Drummers & Metal Evolution – Legends and lineups.
45:20 – Celebs & Emmy Moments – Name drops with style.
47:57 – Work Wardrobe Rules? – Jesse’s casual take.
50:21 – Games, Pinball, & Film Oddities – Nerd heaven.
55:28 – Fantasy Football & Sign-Off – Wrapping it up with friendly chaos.

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Mike Rhyner

Mike Rhyner… "a little on the bumpy side, but rather likable"…so stated famously by a grade school teacher in Oak Cliff, where Mike grew up. A complicated guy, yet a guy who can do long division and remember call strike three to A Rod. Probably best left unattended. Don't expect assistance from him if a medical situation arises.

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0:00:00 - (Mike): Nobody would have thought that I would be the one. Reiner, sports talk. Baseball, baseball, baseball, baseball. Oh, with the big mic. Oh, okay. All right. Yeah, okay, now I get it. We got a lightning strike, boys.
0:00:20 - (Jesse Hawila): What happened over there, Grego?
0:00:21 - (Mike): We had a little lightning strike right outside the window. The Texas Rangers win the World Series. All right, all right, here's a tip. Rock all these Americano league teams.
0:00:33 - (Rob Ervin): Don't.
0:00:34 - (Jesse Hawila): Wait, you said tip?
0:00:35 - (Mike): Yeah, tip with a P. Keep jamming the ticket, colon. Nothing but a big Gen X jerk off set. This is a cool night or what? Although somebody would hear that. Go. I'm back. You are looking live at your Dark Companion Central, which can mean one thing and one thing only, and that is that it is indeed time for another episode of your dark Companion. Thank you very much for being with us today. All of you out there by the channel, catching this thing live.
0:01:19 - (Mike): You're gonna catch it on the flip flop. That's cool too. We don't care how you catch it, just catch it. See here, this is the 13th of August that we're looking at today. Now we got a little bit of a change in things. Shoopy is not able to be with us so much these days and he's not able to be with us today. I have a security blanket though. And today I decided that what we needed to do if we could get him because his social calendar man, we needed to get one of the guys from the Clubhouse. The Clubhouse is a podcast that's on the Sunset Lounge.
0:02:07 - (Mike): Perhaps if you're familiar with the goings on over there where other podcasts under the under our umbrella operate. Maybe you've seen the them you should because they are quite good and I needed somebody to run in here and so I reached out to one of those guys and he deigned to join us here on this little thing of ours today. He is Rob Irvin.
0:02:35 - (Rob Ervin): Hello, Internet. Hello, Internet. Thank you for having me. I'm always happy to help out wherever you need us, so.
0:02:41 - (Mike): Well, we're glad to have you. I'm a big fan of what you boys do over there.
0:02:46 - (Rob Ervin): Thank you, sir.
0:02:46 - (Mike): I mean, you guys are both really, really good.
0:02:51 - (Rob Ervin): We have. We appreciate that more than you know and we, as long as you guys will have us, we'll keep doing it. So we love that we're live every Thursday night. We'll be on a little bit early tomorrow because we will be at Writers Field for the show. So we'll be on at 6 Eastern instead of 8 Eastern tomorrow night as we get you ready for The Rough Riders game. Maybe, maybe not. A special guest, we don't know. We will neither confirm nor deny at this, but we always have a great time talking all things sports, pop culture, entertainment and pro wrestling every Thursday night for about 90 minutes of your time.
0:03:29 - (Mike): So these guys are all over the place and they're really, really good at all of it.
0:03:33 - (Rob Ervin): Thank you. But wait, there's more.
0:03:36 - (Mike): Oh, there's more. There's always more. All right, now I just said, and you probably noticed. Okay, that's the guy that's doing the podcast with you today. Who's the guest?
0:03:49 - (Rob Ervin): We got a big one for you.
0:03:51 - (Mike): We do have a big one award winner.
0:03:53 - (Rob Ervin): Thank you very much.
0:03:55 - (Mike): And I'm a two time. Two time award and I believe a. A three time victim of your dark companion now.
0:04:02 - (Jesse Hawila): Yeah.
0:04:03 - (Mike): Oh, this is four.
0:04:05 - (Rob Ervin): Oh, so one more. Would he be the first five Timers Club.
0:04:08 - (Jesse Hawila): Oh, man.
0:04:10 - (Mike): Now are we counting on the old podcast too? Because he did one of those. Oh, we didn't even count that then. This was six.
0:04:18 - (Rob Ervin): No, I was not told math would be involved today.
0:04:22 - (Mike): Yeah, I don't want to. I don't even want to think about math, but I do want to think about the great Jesse Huela.
0:04:29 - (Rob Ervin): Hey.
0:04:31 - (Mike): You see him on Channel 8. He is the extraordinary weather guy. Thank you, Channel 8. And my time with Jesse goes back to the old podcast. And I was watching Channel 8 News one night a couple times, in fact, I kept seeing him turn up and finally it hit me that that's a really cool cat.
0:04:58 - (Jesse Hawila): Thanks, man.
0:04:59 - (Mike): There's just something about him that is cool. There's something about him that. That would jive with you. You ought to see if you can get him on. So I called him and next thing you knew, he made his way up to the building where we were and we did it. And we kept him coming over here to do this with us. How are you, man?
0:05:18 - (Jesse Hawila): I'm good, brother. How are you doing?
0:05:20 - (Mike): Doing great.
0:05:20 - (Jesse Hawila): You've been feeling well?
0:05:21 - (Mike): Everything's good? Feeling great, yeah.
0:05:23 - (Jesse Hawila): Good.
0:05:24 - (Mike): Everything's pretty good. How are things down there in News 8?
0:05:27 - (Jesse Hawila): They're good. Everything's still. We're still rolling around. Everything's. Everything's functioning. How about that? Everything's good.
0:05:34 - (Mike): That's good.
0:05:34 - (Jesse Hawila): Everything's solid. Still working with Delka's, still doing the weather. It's. It was a crazy spring, you know, the weather world. But this summer's been chill. It's been a nice summer.
0:05:43 - (Rob Ervin): But is that concerning, though? Because when you have a summer that for other people around the country to call this summer mild. They think we're insane. Like a lot of my day job people live in the northeast and they're like, it's going to be 82 today. And I know you're adorable, but does, does something this mild for this area this time of year, does that concern you for when winter gets here in a few months?
0:06:05 - (Jesse Hawila): No, you. Most seasons there's actually typically no direct correlation between season to season to see. So, you know, if you have like a hot, brutally hot summer like we had last year. Yeah. And the year before, in the last year, you can still have a very cold winter. So we'll see. But so far, you know, it's. We're just enjoying.
0:06:23 - (Rob Ervin): I'm not complaining.
0:06:24 - (Jesse Hawila): Sounds like you are.
0:06:25 - (Rob Ervin): If when I walk into my garage and it's not a sauna.
0:06:28 - (Jesse Hawila): Yeah, I am.
0:06:29 - (Rob Ervin): That's a good day for.
0:06:30 - (Jesse Hawila): No, it's. We've only had three 100 degree days.
0:06:33 - (Rob Ervin): This summer and what they say, like by the time we had one, it was the latest since 07.
0:06:37 - (Jesse Hawila): That's right. He listens. Look at that.
0:06:39 - (Mike): Yeah. How about that?
0:06:40 - (Jesse Hawila): I've always thought you were better than Shoopy.
0:06:43 - (Rob Ervin): That wasn't me.
0:06:44 - (Jesse Hawila): I'm glad you're here.
0:06:45 - (Rob Ervin): Was it me groups?
0:06:46 - (Jesse Hawila): It's really.
0:06:48 - (Rob Ervin): This is my dude.
0:06:48 - (Mike): Like one thing I wanted to get into with you, Jesse, is 07.
0:06:54 - (Jesse Hawila): Yeah.
0:06:54 - (Mike): Because back in the day, back in the day, I was on the ticket. We were doing the afternoon drive show and we would get off at 7 o' clock every night. We would walk outside and it was just wonderful. Yeah, just absolutely wonderful. Not unlike what we've been experiencing this year. Except there is one difference. And that difference was that on many, many days in the summer of 07, it rained a little bit and it didn't make it humid or anything like that. It just kind of cooled it off a little bit more and that became known in our circles as that magical summer of 2007.
0:07:39 - (Jesse Hawila): Oh, is that right?
0:07:40 - (Mike): Yeah, yeah. And I, I mean, I've had people refer to me online. How does this compare with that magical summer of 2007? And I wanted to get you in here to get your take on that.
0:07:51 - (Jesse Hawila): I'm glad you asked. I pulled up some stats because I was actually thinking about this. So let me take a look at this. Let's see. It's been a while since we've had. See, I was, I wanted to talk about this summer. I do love weather stats. I really do. So if you go back, this is the first year since 2007 and 2004 where we've had no triple digit days in August. So it's to date. I know that we're still kind of middle of the month, but looking into the over the next two weeks, I don't really see any.
0:08:24 - (Jesse Hawila): So you know, we're kind of even.
0:08:26 - (Mike): If there is one, this thing is such a win.
0:08:28 - (Jesse Hawila): I know.
0:08:29 - (Mike): Even funny.
0:08:29 - (Jesse Hawila): I know. Especially after the last few. We had record triple digit days the last few summers and these big dry spells. This summer has actually been super nice.
0:08:38 - (Mike): Yeah.
0:08:39 - (Jesse Hawila): I keep saying it on TV and I, you know, feel like a broken record. But I want to make sure the.
0:08:43 - (Mike): New folks say something like that.
0:08:45 - (Jesse Hawila): It's true. Yeah. Well, you have so many new people from New York, California and they're like, oh, this summer's awful. I'm like, it's not actually, it's. It's actually really nice.
0:08:55 - (Rob Ervin): I'm from, originally from South Florida.
0:08:57 - (Jesse Hawila): Oh, okay.
0:08:58 - (Rob Ervin): When I go home to visit and people are like, oh, what's it like? And I just say, you see this things that makes the trees move and they're like the breeze. I'm like, yeah, we don't have that.
0:09:06 - (Jesse Hawila): Yeah.
0:09:07 - (Rob Ervin): And if we do, it's like somebody is constantly following you around with a hairdryer.
0:09:12 - (Jesse Hawila): That's exactly right.
0:09:13 - (Rob Ervin): It's like a blast furnace to have something like this. And it kind of leads to a question I want to ask.
0:09:18 - (Jesse Hawila): Yeah.
0:09:18 - (Rob Ervin): Because you talked about looking over the next two weeks, do things like the Apple weather app, did those just wear you out? Because people are like, well my what.
0:09:27 - (Jesse Hawila): My phone says, oh, that's a good question. You know what that app, it's not bad honestly for like if you want to just kind of a generic or like overview of what's happening over the next two weeks. It's fine. It's really fine. The thing that really wears me out honestly is are the social media weather folks who do things to scare people intentionally for clicks because it works for them, because people share things that scare them. And you know, I'm thinking of things like what I could think a great example from earlier this, this year in the spring where we had a, what we call a moderate risk for severe weather. And we were saying there could be some large hail, some damaging winds of you know, 70 to 80 miles per hour, kind of a measured, this is what we could expect.
0:10:14 - (Jesse Hawila): Then I get people sending me messages on Facebook and on X saying well I saw this. And then they Screenshot. It's like DVD size hail, 110 plus mile per hour winds, flash flooding, and EF3 plus tornadoes. And I'm like, steve's blog. Yeah. And some of these are coming from, like. Yeah, exactly. Some of these will even come from, like, legitimate weather folks. And I'm like, what in the hell are you doing?
0:10:43 - (Jesse Hawila): Millions of people in the path of a risk of a tornado. And it's like, okay, so let's not scare everybody. That's not productive at all. It also may. And it also makes me look stupid because if nothing happens, which sometimes it doesn't, it then they say, you said it was gonna be DVD size hail.
0:11:04 - (Mike): I do a little transferring there.
0:11:06 - (Rob Ervin): Let's go videotape.
0:11:08 - (Jesse Hawila): Yeah. Oh, and that doesn't work. You know, like, let me show you that it wasn't me and they don't care. And I'm not joking. It actually. DVD size hail, a true measure. I'm like, so then I can't remember who I made a joke with on social media because they also. Oh, Rebecca Miller, if you remember, NBC 5 meteorologist.
0:11:25 - (Mike): Yeah.
0:11:26 - (Jesse Hawila): She was posting about how crazy people were getting over this chance of storms. And I said, you know what? Screw it. Epcot center size hail, 400 mile per hour winds, and the first EF7 tornado. That's all gonna happen.
0:11:42 - (Rob Ervin): And you're just playing scenes from the Ten Commandments on a loop.
0:11:46 - (Jesse Hawila): Right. It just felt like, who can outscape it? Seriously? Started out 60 to 70, and then it's like 70 to 80, 90 to 100.
0:11:56 - (Rob Ervin): So you take those clips and you add an auctioneer at the bottom. Sony said if I was gonna get 80, gonna get 88, 85. 85, 80. If I gotta get 90.
0:12:02 - (Jesse Hawila): Yeah, that's really what it felt like. That's what. So the apple. So back to your. You really touched on something there. The. The apps.
0:12:09 - (Rob Ervin): I'm kind of good at that.
0:12:11 - (Jesse Hawila): You did a good job.
0:12:11 - (Rob Ervin): I could. I could light a powder cake on you.
0:12:13 - (Jesse Hawila): Yeah, the. The apps, whatever. But some of the folks on social media and it works. They get thousands of shares, thousands of reactions because, you know, it's. Fear sells, I guess. I don't know.
0:12:25 - (Rob Ervin): And it's. It's a subject matter that guys like me have to rely on guys like you for. Because for me, it's like, what's the weather? I don't know. Let me look outside.
0:12:33 - (Jesse Hawila): Yeah.
0:12:33 - (Rob Ervin): Like, you're the guy that, you know, I always like to joke, like, with my doctor. I'm like, hey, you went to school for a decade for this, bro. So whatever you say, I'm gonna roll.
0:12:41 - (Jesse Hawila): It Right, right, right.
0:12:42 - (Rob Ervin): Like, you went to school for this. This is your thing. So I have to rely on you to be my source of truth.
0:12:49 - (Jesse Hawila): Yeah.
0:12:49 - (Rob Ervin): And I kind of wish more people would be like that, because then we. People. Put your trust in the right people.
0:12:54 - (Jesse Hawila): Yeah.
0:12:55 - (Rob Ervin): And not, you know, somebody that just happens to have a Facebook page.
0:12:59 - (Jesse Hawila): Yeah.
0:13:00 - (Mike): Is that true, Jesse? Did you go to school for that?
0:13:02 - (Jesse Hawila): I did.
0:13:03 - (Mike): Or did you want to be a sports guy who just wound up doing.
0:13:06 - (Jesse Hawila): I actually. No, man. Since. Since I was 5, I wanted to be a meteorologist. I grew up in Houston, and I was, like, so obsessed with the weather at all times, and I never wanted to do tv. I don't know if I've ever said that on this podcast. I never wanted to.
0:13:20 - (Mike): No. No, you have not.
0:13:21 - (Jesse Hawila): Once I wanted to do National Weather Service work. And then my last year of college, they were like, we're doing a hiring freeze in Noah, so no jobs are going to be available when you graduate. And I'm like, perfect senior of year of college. That's just what you want to hear, right?
0:13:36 - (Mike): Sure.
0:13:37 - (Jesse Hawila): So I tried broadcast. I interned in Indianapolis at the CBS affiliate at the time, and I was like, I kind of like this. So I stuck with it, and here we are.
0:13:50 - (Mike): Was it hard for you at first? I mean, you seem like. You seem like a natural.
0:13:54 - (Jesse Hawila): Well, I appreciate that. Yes, it was extremely hard. Public speaking is still my number one fear. Which is strange, right? Is that weird?
0:14:03 - (Mike): Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
0:14:05 - (Jesse Hawila): It's different. And seriously, like. Like, right now, we're in a room. It's. It's five people in this room. There's care. It's fine. Like, I'm not worried. Like, same thing with tv. When you. When you do a broadcast, you know, there are seven cameras and four people.
0:14:21 - (Mike): Yeah.
0:14:21 - (Jesse Hawila): Doesn't bother me. I can talk. It's fine. You put me in a room of 50 people and with a microphone in my hand to talk to people, I freeze. I start to shake.
0:14:31 - (Mike): Yeah.
0:14:32 - (Jesse Hawila): I can't do it. They sent me to a fundraising. You know what I mean? Yeah. They sent me to a really hard time with it. I can't. It scares me. I remember a fundraising event we did for Santa's helpers a few years ago out at the House of Blues. And so I had to read a script in front of maybe 30 people that were there. And my. I was just shaking. And I put my mic up to my mouth like this, and then it started. The feedback hit.
0:14:57 - (Mike): Yeah.
0:14:58 - (Jesse Hawila): I hate it. I cannot stand it. What does that mean? But I Can talk on TV or a podcast. It's fine.
0:15:04 - (Mike): It's hard, though. I guess the. The. The confinement of it makes you respond a certain way.
0:15:14 - (Jesse Hawila): Yeah.
0:15:15 - (Mike): Like in here, we're in this room, it's just us.
0:15:18 - (Jesse Hawila): I think you're right.
0:15:19 - (Mike): You're more.
0:15:19 - (Jesse Hawila): More vulnerable in front of the groups.
0:15:21 - (Mike): Yeah. Down there in the studio, it's just them. You see those people every night.
0:15:26 - (Jesse Hawila): Yeah.
0:15:26 - (Mike): You know, you know them, they know you. There are no surprises here or anything like that. Just get up there and do that thing you do. And it all works the way it should.
0:15:35 - (Rob Ervin): But the darker the room, the easier the audience.
0:15:39 - (Jesse Hawila): Is that right?
0:15:40 - (Rob Ervin): That's for me. If I've got to be on stage giving a talk, I need that room as. As dark as humanly possible.
0:15:45 - (Jesse Hawila): Yeah, that's.
0:15:46 - (Rob Ervin): Even then, I'm looking right above their heads to the back wall.
0:15:49 - (Jesse Hawila): Smart.
0:15:49 - (Rob Ervin): Because they think I'm still looking at them, but I'm not. Because it's that uncontrolled environment. You don't know what's coming. But like you said, like, in a room like this, we know each other. There's a comfort level.
0:16:02 - (Mike): Yeah.
0:16:03 - (Rob Ervin): But when you're in a room full of strangers, some of which you have. Have. Especially for somebody like you two, there's a level of expectation that comes. Yeah, I'm just some schlub on a podcast.
0:16:12 - (Jesse Hawila): Like.
0:16:13 - (Rob Ervin): Like you guys have multiple years, watched you on a daily basis or listened to you on a daily basis. So there's a level of expectation that from the way my brain would work, does that add extra pressure to it?
0:16:27 - (Jesse Hawila): I think so.
0:16:28 - (Mike): Yeah. I think it does too. Yeah. I mean, when I'm up in front of a group of people that I, you know, don't really know or anything like that, I find myself starting to make eye contact with a few of them, trying to connect, and I found that that is not good. That does not work for me.
0:16:49 - (Jesse Hawila): Right.
0:16:49 - (Mike): I get sidetracked. You know, I lose. I lose my place. I forget where I am. I lose track of what I'm up there to do. And the next thing you know, I've just turned into a puddle of mess, you know?
0:17:04 - (Jesse Hawila): Yeah, that's good advice. Looking above the heads. I think that's smart.
0:17:08 - (Rob Ervin): That was something I learned in a speech class in college.
0:17:10 - (Jesse Hawila): Yeah. Because normally they say, just imagine everyone's naked. Yeah. Which is surprisingly more uncomfortable.
0:17:17 - (Rob Ervin): Then I start giggling, and I lose my place. The other thing that. That works well for me, and I think that's benefited me once we started the podcast, because I'D done a bunch of public speaking before that. And I call this living my radio fantasy. So it's kind of the same thing is I'm in constant. I can't sit still, which being in Chupy's chair is a little weird for me. It rolls so I'm okay, but I'm always changing my vantage point. It's like that scene was at the first grownups where they're trying to look at the girl without everybody knowing they're looking at the girl. So they're going in shifts of staring.
0:17:48 - (Rob Ervin): It's that concept too. So that way, when I'm shifting my focus, it also gives you that appearance that you're paying attention to everybody, but at the same time, it's keeping my blood pressure low.
0:18:00 - (Jesse Hawila): It's good advice.
0:18:01 - (Mike): It is good advice. He's a pretty big film buff, that.
0:18:05 - (Jesse Hawila): Is that right?
0:18:05 - (Rob Ervin): Yep. We do review films on our show last night. I think. I think we're good now. We saw nobody too.
0:18:13 - (Jesse Hawila): How was it?
0:18:13 - (Rob Ervin): I rewatched the first one on Sunday just, you know, to refresh myself because I love the first one. This one's just as good.
0:18:20 - (Jesse Hawila): Oh, yeah?
0:18:21 - (Rob Ervin): Yeah. And it really. You don't have to watch the first one, but give yourself a refresher. There are certain references to the first one that gave me a better enjoyment of the film. Tonight I am seeing the new Denzel Washington. That highest to lowest, I think is what it's called. Okay, I'll be doing that right up the street tonight. But yeah, I love, I love all things pop culture.
0:18:41 - (Jesse Hawila): This. This brings up something. You know, what I love to see is just people that are passionate about something and then when they're really passionate about something, like I can tell you are about movies, just the amount of knowledge and excitement that comes from them is. Have you ever heard of this guy? I see him on Instagram and his name is Kevin McCarthy. That guy, amazing. I. I'm not. I wouldn't even consider myself a film buff, but watching him just completely nerd out, no matter who's in front of him, and he just starts talking about all this film stuff and I see the fellow film buff get super excited.
0:19:15 - (Jesse Hawila): I love it.
0:19:16 - (Rob Ervin): I like that right now.
0:19:17 - (Jesse Hawila): I love that.
0:19:18 - (Rob Ervin): You know, just because, like, that's one of the things I've loved about the podcast.
0:19:22 - (Jesse Hawila): Yes.
0:19:22 - (Rob Ervin): Is we've been afforded opportunities. You know, I tell Ryan this all the time. Go back and tell 22 year old me that I'm sitting here right now and I call you a dirty, filthy liar. But being Able, like you said, to have that passion and to be able to share that passion. I am the king of useless knowledge. My in laws will not play trivia games with me. They won't. They refuse.
0:19:45 - (Jesse Hawila): You're going to win every time.
0:19:47 - (Mike): More than likely, I think I'd refuse to.
0:19:50 - (Rob Ervin): There's a whole table in my garage that's just Trivial Pursuits. Seen it all, that kind of stuff even. And you know, I have all these board games and no one will play them with me. But just like you said, when you have a passion for something, like when I see a movie immediately after I'm on IMDb looking at trivia so that when we talk about it on the show or, you know, I. I've realized this year I'm not a film critic.
0:20:14 - (Rob Ervin): I'm a movie reviewer.
0:20:15 - (Jesse Hawila): Nice.
0:20:15 - (Rob Ervin): Those are two completely different.
0:20:17 - (Jesse Hawila): Sure, of course.
0:20:17 - (Rob Ervin): Because I appreciate the art form. Like, I can appreciate good cinematography, good use of color. But I'm not an art for art's sake kind of guy. I'm not afraid to say Honora stunk on ice. Performances were fantastic, directed great. That script was a steaming pile.
0:20:37 - (Jesse Hawila): Yeah.
0:20:38 - (Rob Ervin): And the ending makes no sense.
0:20:40 - (Jesse Hawila): Yeah.
0:20:40 - (Rob Ervin): And don't sit there and tell me. Well, we want the audience to decide for themselves. No, you didn't. You just made a crappy ending.
0:20:45 - (Jesse Hawila): Right, Right. Don't have an excuse, so.
0:20:48 - (Rob Ervin): But people that just think that that film is the second coming. I don't get it.
0:20:54 - (Jesse Hawila): Yeah.
0:20:54 - (Rob Ervin): You know.
0:20:55 - (Jesse Hawila): Well, you're honest about it. That's good.
0:20:57 - (Rob Ervin): I am about. Did I walk away entertained, good, bad or indifferent? Because there's been bad movies. Like, I've seen the Room like six times now.
0:21:07 - (Jesse Hawila): Oh, wow.
0:21:08 - (Mike): The Room.
0:21:08 - (Jesse Hawila): Really?
0:21:08 - (Rob Ervin): I've actually interviewed Tommy Wiseau on multiple occasions.
0:21:11 - (Jesse Hawila): No way.
0:21:12 - (Rob Ervin): At screenings at the Angelica. It's a terrible film, but it. I still walk away having a good time because I saw it in a theater and people get the bit and you do the bit.
0:21:24 - (D): We all know it's good.
0:21:25 - (Rob Ervin): It's. Wait till you haven't seen Big Shark yet. That's his new one. Oh, it's not the room.
0:21:33 - (Jesse Hawila): Okay.
0:21:34 - (Mike): Haven't seen what? Big Shark.
0:21:35 - (Rob Ervin): Big Shark is his latest film. It takes place in New Orleans. He's part of a group of best friend firefighters. I'm here. I'm here now. I'm usually telling everybody else that. And a big shark, a CGI shark, has come from the Gulf of Mexico to just destroy New Orleans. And wow. It is glorious.
0:22:02 - (Jesse Hawila): Wow.
0:22:02 - (Rob Ervin): To watch. Yeah. He brings. He hasn't. He says coming out on Blu Ray soon. But he hasn't. He hasn't released it yet, but he's. He was just here six weeks ago.
0:22:11 - (Mike): I felt like I'm being exposed to a whole new million film that I know nothing about.
0:22:17 - (Rob Ervin): The next time they do the Room, we have to get you to go so you can witness. It's very Rocky Horror esque in its interactivity.
0:22:25 - (Mike): Yeah.
0:22:26 - (Rob Ervin): People will throw spoons in the theater.
0:22:29 - (Jesse Hawila): Wow.
0:22:31 - (Rob Ervin): There are things you say at certain points in the film because nobody seems to know how to close a door. So everybody's yelling, shut the door. The Inwood also does it too. It's. We saw it at the Inwood once and there was a group of students from SMU that had seen it so many times. They were singing along with the soundtrack. They were shadow casting. At one point the door was open and they were on a pyramid. Three guys high, reaching for the doorknob on the screen.
0:22:56 - (Rob Ervin): Like it's. It's a whole different level of immersion in film.
0:23:00 - (D): We're gonna, we're gonna have to actually take Mike to this one day because we've talked about this multiple group field trip multiple times.
0:23:06 - (Rob Ervin): Because it's okay.
0:23:07 - (Mike): I'm down with it.
0:23:08 - (Rob Ervin): Let' I. I will talk to the Angelica tonight and I'll find out when the Neck. Cuz I'll be there tonight for the movie. I will find out when the next viewing of the Room is.
0:23:14 - (Mike): I just did it.
0:23:15 - (Jesse Hawila): But you had a gate.
0:23:16 - (Rob Ervin): Yeah, it's. It's. It's once a month they do it.
0:23:18 - (D): It's so much fun, Mike.
0:23:20 - (Rob Ervin): It really is.
0:23:20 - (D): It's so much fun.
0:23:21 - (Rob Ervin): And cuz. And it's just.
0:23:23 - (D): I think we've talked about this too.
0:23:25 - (Jesse Hawila): I don't. The Room. Yeah, I don't remember that. No. Come with us, man. I would love to go.
0:23:29 - (D): The Room is so good.
0:23:30 - (Rob Ervin): You've never seen it in a theater, have you?
0:23:32 - (Jesse Hawila): I have not. Okay. I would love to see it.
0:23:35 - (Rob Ervin): Because you've seen.
0:23:37 - (D): But you actually sat down and watched it.
0:23:39 - (Jesse Hawila): No, no, I know of it. I don't. Okay.
0:23:41 - (Rob Ervin): When I enter the film, I always ask like, okay, who's seen this for the first time? I go. Because the first time I did an intro, I didn't think about this and I heard somebody say, yeah, I've never seen it in a theater. And I was like, okay, hold on.
0:23:52 - (Jesse Hawila): Yeah.
0:23:52 - (Rob Ervin): How many of you have never seen this in a theater? And hands it up. I'm like, oh my God. You watch this at the house?
0:23:57 - (Jesse Hawila): Yeah.
0:23:57 - (D): I want to know why anybody would Want to watch that at the house?
0:24:00 - (Rob Ervin): It's a morbid curiosity. Before we became the phenomenon that it is, it was just a morbid curiosity of people talking about this movie and how batch bat guano crazy it is.
0:24:12 - (D): I wonder if people watched it with other people or did they just sat there by themselves and watched it. That would be my main discussion and problem point here. If they didn't actually watch it with.
0:24:22 - (Rob Ervin): Others and you have to see it.
0:24:24 - (D): Something'S wrong with them. The disaster.
0:24:27 - (Jesse Hawila): Yeah, because James Franco movie. Yeah, yeah.
0:24:29 - (Rob Ervin): Because you have to understand the madness that is this move. Like, he literally filmed it with two cameras by side. By side. One was doing digital, one was doing film. Just because that's what Tommy wanted. It's. I didn't understand it until I sat through it the first time and then was just like, okay, I get it now. And then getting the chance, like I said, to talk to Tommy.
0:24:51 - (Jesse Hawila): That's so.
0:24:51 - (Rob Ervin): Because he doesn't do Q and A. And it's before the movie, not after. He doesn't do. He doesn't do sit down. He walks in. I go to the audience. That's it.
0:24:59 - (Jesse Hawila): Interesting.
0:25:00 - (Rob Ervin): He doesn't want to do the one on one. He wants to talk to the people.
0:25:04 - (Jesse Hawila): Wow.
0:25:04 - (Rob Ervin): And he said his next movie is going to be a vampire film he's releasing at Christmas.
0:25:10 - (Jesse Hawila): All right.
0:25:11 - (Rob Ervin): Yeah, but like.
0:25:12 - (Mike): But like, are you talking about getting up in front of the crowd and addressing them that way or taking questions or something?
0:25:17 - (Rob Ervin): Because when he comes to town, I'll introduce him. And normally the way it would work is there'd be two directors, chairs. We'd sit down together and we'd have a conversation, and then we'd open to Q A. He skips that first part. He's like, I don't want to sit down. I want to go straight to Q A. And I want to do it before the movie. I said, fine, it's your world. I'm just paying rent, you know? And so he'll take questions for about 20 minutes, and then he has his own merch table that, I'm not kidding you, is the length between theaters five and six at the Angelica.
0:25:46 - (Rob Ervin): That's his entire merch stand table. And he sells stuff like hotcakes. It's insane.
0:25:53 - (Jesse Hawila): Good for him.
0:25:54 - (Rob Ervin): And I. And he just does this. He's. I think he's in London either last week or next week. Like, he's all over the world right now. But it's those. It's those opportunities that get afforded in something like this. Yeah, I'm just like, I love this.
0:26:07 - (D): I'm almost certain I have a pair of Tommy Waso underwear in the back of my car.
0:26:10 - (Rob Ervin): Yep. He sells his own underwear.
0:26:12 - (Jesse Hawila): I did not know he had such a following, to be honest.
0:26:16 - (Rob Ervin): I mean, we'll put 150, 200 people in the theater for a movie that was made when last time he was here, it was, it was literally the 19th anniversary of the release of the film. And he didn't even realize. He's like, yeah, somebody called me this morning, but I didn't think it was the anniversary.
0:26:30 - (Jesse Hawila): I was like, yep, interesting.
0:26:33 - (Mike): All right, I want to get back into a philosophical question for you.
0:26:36 - (Jesse Hawila): Yeah.
0:26:37 - (Mike): Jesse.
0:26:37 - (Jesse Hawila): Oh boy.
0:26:38 - (Mike): Pertinent to the way you go about that thing you do. But first, before we do that, it is time for the dreaded and feared mid show read. What if I told you, let's just say that for a moment that you were a guy or a girl who's walking around out there and you hurt, you're in pain, you got something wrong with you and you just hurt all the time. Well, what if I told you you could free yourself of pain, anxiety and sleepless nights as well? Would you like that?
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0:29:07 - (Mike): Begin your healing at the House of Healing and sleep again. And just get over it all, man. Do we have more here? Okay. All right, here is mid show. Read number two. The OG is back again. That is Thursday, August 14th. I believe that's tomorrow, is it not? It is.
0:29:29 - (Rob Ervin): Yes, sir.
0:29:29 - (Mike): Wow.
0:29:30 - (Rob Ervin): We got a lot going on tomorrow night.
0:29:32 - (Mike): We do have a lot going on tomorrow. Grego Shupee and I together in the studio at a new time. We'll be rolling at 5 o', clock, 5pm Central Daylight Time for another episode of the OG what we do on the OG is talking sports and only sports. It's quick. We're in here and out of here before you know it. We share our hardline positions on teams, athletes, coaches, ownership, all of it. So join us also this week. We have a little announcement to make. So join us live on Patreon, 5 o' clock on Thursday for another round of the OG it says end roll here.
0:30:17 - (Mike): Is this really the end.
0:30:20 - (Jesse Hawila): At the end of the show?
0:30:22 - (Mike): Okay.
0:30:23 - (Rob Ervin): All right.
0:30:24 - (Mike): So we're through it, huh? What you're telling me is we're through it. Okay.
0:30:29 - (D): I love that he's just acting ignorant for us.
0:30:33 - (Mike): No, no, no.
0:30:34 - (D): It's one of those days.
0:30:35 - (Mike): I'm very nervous.
0:30:36 - (D): Oh.
0:30:36 - (Mike): I'm not acting. I'm very nervous.
0:30:38 - (D): It's because Jesse's here, obviously.
0:30:40 - (Mike): Yeah, it's because Jesse. He's here.
0:30:41 - (Jesse Hawila): Yeah, of course.
0:30:42 - (Mike): Because he's a very intimidating fellow. Whoa, man.
0:30:47 - (Jesse Hawila): I'm scared.
0:30:47 - (D): It's all that death metal. It's rubbed off.
0:30:49 - (Jesse Hawila): It is.
0:30:49 - (Rob Ervin): I'm glad you mentioned that because I wanted to talk about that a little bit. Now, there's two different ends of your musical spectrum that I've been told. Yeah, the death metal thing, which I want to talk about in a minute, but I purposely started the show with a little Joe Bonamassa I love.
0:31:03 - (Jesse Hawila): Yeah.
0:31:04 - (Rob Ervin): One of the best songs that he's done. But I'm also told you're a big fan of Tedeschi. Trucks, man.
0:31:09 - (Jesse Hawila): Yes, I am.
0:31:10 - (Rob Ervin): Susan Chadeshi, Derek Trucks, two of the best blues guitarist walking God's green earth.
0:31:14 - (Jesse Hawila): Yes.
0:31:16 - (Mike): Wait a minute, Wait a minute. Is it Tadeshi or Tedeschi?
0:31:19 - (Rob Ervin): I thought it was Tedeschi.
0:31:20 - (Jesse Hawila): See, I always said Tedeschi, but.
0:31:21 - (Mike): Yeah, I've always heard. It's okay.
0:31:24 - (Jesse Hawila): Could be. I never know.
0:31:26 - (Rob Ervin): I'm sure she's gotten every version of it that exists.
0:31:29 - (Jesse Hawila): Dude, my last name's Hawila. So when it comes to A last name. I'm like, yeah, whatever. I don't even know anymore.
0:31:34 - (Rob Ervin): There's a guy whose last name is Irvin nobody can say or spell. Especially living in this town. Not an eye.
0:31:40 - (Jesse Hawila): I've heard all sorts of stuff. So. Yeah. Went to their. Did you go to the concert?
0:31:45 - (Rob Ervin): I did not. I have not. I've only seen clips of them live because I love if you can play a good blues guitar. One of my closest friends that I'm in a band with can make a guitar dance, especially with the blues.
0:31:56 - (Jesse Hawila): Yeah. Well, buddy guy opened for them, which was spectacular. It was a great show as always. They put on a phenomenal act. I don't know if you've seen them live or not, Mike.
0:32:07 - (Mike): I've not.
0:32:08 - (Jesse Hawila): Amazing. This. I can't even. This would have been the fifth time I've seen them live.
0:32:13 - (Mike): Yeah. I do know a good bit about them, though.
0:32:16 - (Jesse Hawila): Yeah.
0:32:16 - (Mike): About. About her and Derek and everything.
0:32:19 - (Jesse Hawila): Yeah. I got into her music as a solo artist back when I was in high school. Before I could drive. I went to the Indie Jazz Fest, which is in Indianapolis, so. And she performed and I purchased her album at the tent. She signed it. I still have it. It was a actually Live from Austin City Limits album. Signed it. She gave me a guitar pick. And I still have that in my media room. And I've been following her. And then the Tedeschi Trucks, man. For just. Derek can play like no other.
0:32:51 - (Rob Ervin): I swear. When they announced they were forming that band together, I was like, just get out of the way and let these kids do what they do.
0:32:57 - (Jesse Hawila): It's amazing. It's. You were talking about art earlier and just the. The artistry of. Of them individually as. As the guitarists and singers. Amazing. But then you see, they let their background vocalists shine a lot of times in their music. They let the. A trombone do a solo, a saxophone do a solo. It's all sort. It's just. It's beautiful. I can't explain it. Everyone there always has a good time and it just love them. Well.
0:33:26 - (Rob Ervin): And you live in a great.
0:33:27 - (Mike): That they share it.
0:33:28 - (Jesse Hawila): Yeah. Oh, it's. It's amazing. You can see when. When Derek is doing a solo, Susan kind of back seven just watches and just, you know, everyone is captivated by Derek playing the guitar. You know, the way he makes the guitar sing when he does anything is. I've just never heard anything that's such.
0:33:45 - (Mike): An unusual technique he does.
0:33:48 - (Jesse Hawila): But he's been doing it forever.
0:33:49 - (Mike): Yeah.
0:33:49 - (Jesse Hawila): There are videos when he was a kid.
0:33:51 - (Mike): Yeah.
0:33:51 - (Jesse Hawila): Like playing with the Allman Brothers and yeah. Outstanding. Gotta see them live. Next time they're around, I'm gonna text you.
0:33:59 - (Mike): Hit me.
0:34:00 - (Jesse Hawila): I, I will do it. I'm gonna, I'm gonna hold you to it. You and I are gonna go to the next show. They.
0:34:05 - (Mike): When they come around, I'm down.
0:34:07 - (Jesse Hawila): Yeah.
0:34:08 - (Mike): Here. Pinky swear.
0:34:10 - (Jesse Hawila): Pinky promise made. This is a binding agreement, just so you know.
0:34:15 - (Rob Ervin): So, yeah, I think you lose your.
0:34:17 - (Jesse Hawila): Pinky if you don't hold up to it, so.
0:34:18 - (Mike): I know you don't. And no, I, I, I, I don't need to be sacrificing digits at this stage of the game.
0:34:26 - (Jesse Hawila): Right.
0:34:26 - (Rob Ervin): Well, another thing and it. To get Reiner to one of these shows, I think we might to have to have him in a protective bubble.
0:34:33 - (Jesse Hawila): Yeah.
0:34:34 - (Rob Ervin): A few months ago, I got a call and they were like, hey, can you jump on real quick? And there was a theoretical question and there were five different bands in a Hell in a Cell match. And who would win? Guar was on that list.
0:34:47 - (Jesse Hawila): Oh, I've seen Guar live.
0:34:49 - (Rob Ervin): This man needs to experience. Because I tried to describe to them a live Guar show.
0:34:53 - (Jesse Hawila): It's unexpected.
0:34:55 - (Mike): Yeah.
0:34:55 - (Rob Ervin): I said they're gonna win because they eat their fans on stage.
0:34:59 - (Jesse Hawila): They do. They do some interesting things on stage. Which, as your local weather boy, I probably shouldn't mention some of the stuff I've seen. I actually have a shirt. You know, you wear white. If you get close enough to. At a GAR concert, you wear a white shirt and you get it stained with the various things that are thrown. We'll say things that get. I still have it somewhere. It's sitting in the box somewhere. But yeah, it's. That is a spectacular performance.
0:35:26 - (Jesse Hawila): One that you really do need to see.
0:35:29 - (Mike): All right, I'm game.
0:35:30 - (Jesse Hawila): You remember Gallagher when he would smash watermelons and they would put these like plastic. Yeah, Think of that. Only just morbid and weird.
0:35:37 - (Mike): Yes. With music I've heard.
0:35:39 - (Jesse Hawila): Okay, good.
0:35:40 - (Rob Ervin): Well, and then you groups, like, you know, I have a very close buddy who is like Rammstein fan one.
0:35:45 - (Jesse Hawila): Yeah, sweet.
0:35:46 - (Rob Ervin): And you have to see them outdoors because you know how you two will play like multiple things in a city because of the stage set. Raunchtein is the same way, because they will literally just launch fireballs off the stage over the crowd in the stadium. And just that with that industrial metal thing that they do.
0:36:07 - (Mike): I.
0:36:07 - (Rob Ervin): There's a lot of bands I think, like that. One of my personal favorites is a band called Here Come the Mummies.
0:36:12 - (Jesse Hawila): Interesting. I've not heard of that.
0:36:13 - (Rob Ervin): They are a funk band. Not safe for work.
0:36:16 - (Jesse Hawila): Oh.
0:36:16 - (Rob Ervin): They literally have an album called Single Entendre.
0:36:19 - (Jesse Hawila): Oh, wow.
0:36:20 - (Rob Ervin): But nobody knows who they are. Literally. Because they get off the bus in full regalia. The rumor is that it's multiple Grammy award winning musicians and this is how they get around their contracts.
0:36:34 - (Jesse Hawila): Oh.
0:36:35 - (Rob Ervin): Because.
0:36:35 - (Mike): And.
0:36:36 - (Rob Ervin): And they can't talk unless music is playing. So if there's music playing, it's just all the time. But they're bands you have to see live. Full horn section. Their sax players will play two at one time.
0:36:47 - (Jesse Hawila): Wow.
0:36:47 - (Rob Ervin): At a certain point. But I like that we have bands like that that we can see. But who like. Let's go to the other side. Because you are a big death metal guy. Who is at the top of your list right now. Bands you haven't seen that you want to see.
0:37:01 - (Jesse Hawila): This is not death metal. But it is a ba. It's. Well, I will get to that one. Alabama Shakes is the number one.
0:37:06 - (Rob Ervin): Oh absolutely.
0:37:07 - (Jesse Hawila): They're coming. Finally. They've reunited. They're finally touring.
0:37:10 - (Rob Ervin): She was on the SNL50 conc.
0:37:12 - (Jesse Hawila): Yes. Britney Howard is.
0:37:13 - (Rob Ervin): She did an amazing job.
0:37:14 - (Jesse Hawila): Phenomenal vocalist. That's number one. They'll be here in September.
0:37:18 - (Rob Ervin): Oh really?
0:37:18 - (Jesse Hawila): Which I'm. Yeah. At Toyota Music Factory.
0:37:20 - (Rob Ervin): Oh, I love that.
0:37:21 - (Jesse Hawila): So I've got tickets there. That was a non negotiable for me. When they reunited. I was like, we're not. We're off. We're not doing anything that day. Between the Buried and me, I would say is probably one of them. For some reason I haven't seen them and I love them.
0:37:36 - (Mike): Between the Buried and Me.
0:37:38 - (Jesse Hawila): Yeah.
0:37:39 - (Rob Ervin): A lot of the bands have. Especially in that genre. Like there's literally a band called. And you will know us by the Trail of the Dead.
0:37:44 - (Mike): Like that's the name that I've heard of.
0:37:46 - (Rob Ervin): Like a lot of those bands have names that are there. And then you'll have like Ghost.
0:37:50 - (Jesse Hawila): Ghost or Death. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's. I think you might actually like them now if you can get past the screaming. The musicianship in that band is unbelievable. The drummer, the guitarists. You are mind melting.
0:38:07 - (Mike): I don't doubt that. Yeah, I don't doubt that. Because a lot of that music, crazy as it may seem.
0:38:15 - (Jesse Hawila): Yes.
0:38:16 - (Mike): Demands incredible technique.
0:38:19 - (Jesse Hawila): That's what really drew me to it.
0:38:20 - (Mike): Really.
0:38:21 - (Jesse Hawila): Oh yeah. As a drummer through high school and some college, I was so captivated by people that could play the drums the way that death metal drummers could play and the way that death metal guitarists could play the way they could shred like nobody else you could. That's really what made me so. You know, it's not the screaming, the lyrics are sometimes great, but that musicianship, the complexity that it takes to play it, that's what. That's what really sucked me into that world.
0:38:50 - (Mike): So who's your favorite drummer?
0:38:53 - (Jesse Hawila): Oh, my gosh, that's a hard one.
0:38:56 - (Mike): All right, who are some of your favorite?
0:38:58 - (Jesse Hawila): I would say so. There's the drummer from afi, Adam Carson. Just because that band in particular is what made me so obsessed with different music. Back when I was a kid, I was really little, and then. Oh, gosh.
0:39:16 - (Rob Ervin): Do you want to say Portnoy to say it? Because I know who AFI is, and I was not a little kid.
0:39:21 - (Jesse Hawila): Oh, is that right? Yeah. Well.
0:39:24 - (Rob Ervin): Well, I was.
0:39:25 - (Jesse Hawila): Yeah, I was born in 89. When they were coming up, it was the late. You know, mid to late.
0:39:28 - (Rob Ervin): Well, mid junior in high school.
0:39:30 - (Jesse Hawila): Yeah.
0:39:30 - (Rob Ervin): I was driving.
0:39:31 - (Jesse Hawila): Yeah.
0:39:32 - (Rob Ervin): When you made your arrival, my mom.
0:39:34 - (Jesse Hawila): Was wiping my butt and you were driving. Is that right?
0:39:36 - (Rob Ervin): That's pretty much it, yes.
0:39:38 - (Jesse Hawila): Well, Mike.
0:39:39 - (Mike): I mean, Mike Port 39.
0:39:43 - (Jesse Hawila): Is that right?
0:39:43 - (Mike): Yeah.
0:39:45 - (Jesse Hawila): In 89.
0:39:46 - (Mike): Yeah. Yeah.
0:39:47 - (Jesse Hawila): Wow. Oh, so you'll be 75 soon?
0:39:51 - (Mike): Yes, I will.
0:39:53 - (Rob Ervin): You look.
0:39:53 - (Jesse Hawila): Is that right? You look amazing, dude. Wow. Good for you.
0:39:58 - (Mike): I'm just an old guy trying to hang in there, man. That's it.
0:40:01 - (Jesse Hawila): That's all we're all trying to do, man. It's hard.
0:40:04 - (Rob Ervin): But you're talking about afi.
0:40:05 - (Jesse Hawila): Afi, yeah. That was the. The Art of Drowning was the album that really pulled me into the world of different music, if you will, outside of the mainstream. Richard Christie is one of my favorite drummers. He. He was the drummer for the band Death. Gene Hoagland, also a drummer for the band Death and played for a band called Strapping Young Lad, if you've ever heard of them, with. Oh, I always forget his name.
0:40:26 - (Jesse Hawila): He's got the skullet like are used to. I'll think of it in a second. A skullet. It's a mullet, but you're bold. You're bald up here, so you're bald here, but you have long hair on the sides. A skullet.
0:40:41 - (Rob Ervin): It's the. It's the Extreme Munson.
0:40:43 - (Jesse Hawila): Yeah, well, pretty cool. He pulled it off. It looked good. I don't. It looks really good.
0:40:50 - (Mike): This is why I love Jesse. He knows all kinds of shit that I just don't.
0:40:55 - (Jesse Hawila): The skull, it. Yeah, well, you know, you texted me the other day. We were on the news. We talked about Flooding in Silver Spring, Maryland, which is a Fleetwood Mac.
0:41:05 - (Mike): Yeah.
0:41:05 - (Jesse Hawila): Randomly. It was the same day that Stevie Nicks and Lindsey Buckingham kind of hinted at something going on. We don't know what it is. Whether they're making music together, whether. I don't know.
0:41:16 - (Rob Ervin): No, they didn't. The announcement.
0:41:17 - (Jesse Hawila): Did they do. I didn't know.
0:41:18 - (Rob Ervin): Remastering of the album that they did together? That's what it is.
0:41:22 - (Jesse Hawila): Just tour one more time or something.
0:41:24 - (Rob Ervin): Yeah.
0:41:24 - (Jesse Hawila): Oh, man. And then the same day they announced they were doing that, there was flooding in Silver Spring, Maryland, which was where Stevie Nicks got the name for the song Silver Springs that she wrote about Lindsey Buckingham. And just. I texted you and I said, well, you know, she really is a witch. She must be. She says she is, and I think she might be. What are the odds of that? Maryland, of all places, to get that kind of flooding and then make the news same day? I don't know, man.
0:41:53 - (Jesse Hawila): Wild.
0:41:54 - (Rob Ervin): That's another. We will neither confirm nor deny.
0:41:56 - (Jesse Hawila): Yeah. No joke, right?
0:41:58 - (Mike): There's a lot of those out there.
0:42:00 - (Jesse Hawila): Yep.
0:42:01 - (Mike): So who's your favorite drummer of all time?
0:42:04 - (Jesse Hawila): Favorite drummer of all time. I'm gonna have to give to Mike Portnoy, the drummer for Dream Theater.
0:42:11 - (Rob Ervin): Dream Theater in general.
0:42:13 - (Jesse Hawila): Yeah.
0:42:13 - (Rob Ervin): Is one of those bands that everybody's heard of, but nobody's net. As many have actually listened to.
0:42:21 - (Jesse Hawila): Yeah.
0:42:21 - (Rob Ervin): Because it's that modern prog rock metal thing that's definitely. It's acquired. It's not something that you can just. Dream Theater's not a band you dive into.
0:42:31 - (Jesse Hawila): Right.
0:42:32 - (Rob Ervin): Dream Theater is a band you go. Okay, I like that. Okay, let me hear more.
0:42:34 - (Jesse Hawila): Yeah, yeah.
0:42:35 - (Rob Ervin): You know, I've got I in my phone. I've got a wake right now, which is a fantastic album. But, yeah, Portnoy is good. I. I will always be partial to Neil Peart.
0:42:44 - (Jesse Hawila): Oh, yeah.
0:42:45 - (Rob Ervin): Well, yeah, nobody. Nobody does it like.
0:42:47 - (Jesse Hawila): Well, it's fair.
0:42:47 - (Rob Ervin): When you have to be hydraulically lowered in your drum seat, in your drum kit. And I. I saw them three times towards the end. I saw Snakes and Arrows. The Time Machine tour was. Was amazing.
0:43:01 - (Mike): Walking through this world with serious Rush regret.
0:43:05 - (Rob Ervin): Did you never get to see them?
0:43:06 - (Mike): I never did. I never did. And one of the guys that I play with now is a huge, huge Rush fan. And they would come through here and he would just beg me to go, but I was so dug in against him. That's just nothing but teen art rock, man. I was just so dug in on that that I didn't go. And now I really really regret it.
0:43:30 - (Rob Ervin): Have you seen beyond the Light of Stage?
0:43:32 - (Mike): No.
0:43:33 - (Rob Ervin): Documentary?
0:43:34 - (Mike): No, I haven't.
0:43:34 - (Rob Ervin): It's. It's really good. And if you've got a decent home theater system, the sound field is fantastic. And it goes through. When Neil just kind of disappeared and rode his bike from California all the way through South America.
0:43:48 - (Mike): Yeah, yeah, I've heard about that.
0:43:50 - (Jesse Hawila): To.
0:43:50 - (Rob Ervin): To the day we lost him. They called him the new guy because he replaced their original. And, you know, this is even before Moving Pictures, and they're still calling him the new guy. It's a fantastic documentary. Definitely put that on your list.
0:44:05 - (Mike): I will.
0:44:06 - (Rob Ervin): I've actually got the DVD somewhere at the house. If I can find it, I'll let you borrow it.
0:44:09 - (Mike): Yeah, I like that.
0:44:12 - (Rob Ervin): Really good. But I mean, that saves me for.
0:44:15 - (Mike): Having to look for it.
0:44:16 - (Rob Ervin): Yeah. Or Scott Rockenfeld from what used to be Queens Reich. Because there's like nine different versions, apparently, of Queens Reich out there, depending on who you ask.
0:44:25 - (Jesse Hawila): It's. There's a lot of bands that are like that. Funny enough, I ran into a guy. Have you ever heard of Iced Earth?
0:44:29 - (Rob Ervin): I've heard of that.
0:44:30 - (Jesse Hawila): Okay. There. Randomly ran into this guy wearing an Iced Earth shirt the other day. And I was like, sweet shirt man. He was like, oh, thanks. And I was telling him how. We were just talking about the drummer, Richard Christie, who was one of the drummers for the band Death during the Sound of Perseverance album, played for Iced Earth. And we were talking about how Ice Earth apparently is just. There are these metal bands that just rotate through drummers, guitarist. And then you're left with one singular person. And it's like, it's not really the same band anymore.
0:44:57 - (Jesse Hawila): After nine iterations of it, you're like, well, I guess it's still the band, but not. I don't know. I know what you're saying, though.
0:45:02 - (Mike): Okay, now here's something that's interesting about that story. Here is Jesse Ho Whelan, a Channel 8 stalwart, on there virtually every night, coming up to somebody and going, cool shirt, man. Did he know who you were?
0:45:20 - (Jesse Hawila): I don't know. I don't think so. I don't think so. He was kind of an eccentric dude. I don't know if he knew who I was. Must be a Channel 5 viewer, which is fine.
0:45:31 - (Rob Ervin): But that's a heck of a question. How often do you get stopped when you're out and about?
0:45:36 - (Jesse Hawila): It's a fair amount. It's fun. I really like it. I like talking to folks, you know, it's like if we go to grocery stores or the, the state fair or wherever we, you know, wherever there are big crowds or the concerts that we go to, we get to, you know, take pictures with people and talk to folks and it's nice to hear people are very nice. You know, sometimes I get caught up on anything one me person, mean person, says on something on the Internet and you're like, you know, everyone hates me, but you get.
0:46:06 - (Jesse Hawila): There's so many nice people out there. And.
0:46:08 - (Rob Ervin): Okay, it's a two part question.
0:46:09 - (Jesse Hawila): Yeah.
0:46:10 - (Rob Ervin): Part one, I want to know about the Emmy Awards.
0:46:12 - (Jesse Hawila): Yeah. Oh, that was cool.
0:46:14 - (Rob Ervin): And, and part two, when was the first time you met someone and you were starstruck?
0:46:18 - (Jesse Hawila): This is gonna sound so dumb. The, the lead singer of Manchester Orchestra, Andy Hall, I met him in Indianapolis and I. That was the first time I was ever a starstruck.
0:46:27 - (Rob Ervin): I'm a big Bob and Tom guy. So. You mentioned Indiana.
0:46:29 - (Jesse Hawila): Oh, yeah. Bob and Tom. Yeah.
0:46:30 - (Rob Ervin): I'm a VIP member. I listen to every.
0:46:32 - (Jesse Hawila): No way.
0:46:32 - (Rob Ervin): Yeah, have been since college. Somebody introduced me to them in college. Every time somebody mentions indie, that's exactly where my brain goes.
0:46:38 - (Jesse Hawila): That's a fair thing.
0:46:39 - (Rob Ervin): I saw them on Letterman. That's how I discovered.
0:46:42 - (Jesse Hawila): Oh, wow. Yeah, I remember they were, they were on there. I was starstruck.
0:46:45 - (Rob Ervin): Tell me about the Emmys.
0:46:46 - (Jesse Hawila): That was pretty sweet. So we had won a breaking news Emmy for severe weather coverage on Memorial Day of last year and that got pushed into the national Emmy category. So we went to New York, got. Went to the national Emmys and we did not win. Which is fine. It was a cool experience. It was very New York, I will tell you that. A little. Little much. It was down in Times Square, the event, but the, the lifetime.
0:47:15 - (Mike): That must have been awesome.
0:47:16 - (Jesse Hawila): It was the lifetime achievement award perfectly. That night was Al Roker. And I got to meet Al Roker and talk to him and his wife, who hosts 2020, Deborah Roberts. So that was.
0:47:27 - (Rob Ervin): I did not know that's his wife.
0:47:28 - (Jesse Hawila): Me either until that night.
0:47:30 - (Rob Ervin): I was like, as they say today, old.
0:47:31 - (Jesse Hawila): When I. Yeah, I saw them stand taking pictures together and I was like, but they're on different networks. I was like, maybe it doesn't matter. And then we were talking and he said his wife Deborah, and I was like, well, I'll be darn. How about that? But it was cool to meet Al Roker and. And be. Be there and the company of the greatest national journalist and documentary makers and quite an experience, really.
0:47:57 - (Jesse Hawila): It was fun.
0:47:58 - (Mike): That's very cool.
0:47:59 - (Rob Ervin): You Got to dress up.
0:48:00 - (Jesse Hawila): Yeah. Which I do not like, ever. So my wife was dressed like tux.
0:48:06 - (Mike): You know, or just nice suit or what?
0:48:09 - (Jesse Hawila): Just a nice suit.
0:48:10 - (Mike): Okay.
0:48:10 - (Jesse Hawila): I'm gonna tell you a secret. And this will come to a surprise to hardly anybody that watches me. Maybe. But if you were to go to my trunk right now, outside, you're going to find my suits laid down, thrown in the back of my trunk, my ties wadded up in the side of a. I don't. I. It's never been for me, the dressing up thing. But I have to do it for the news, Right?
0:48:30 - (Mike): Sure.
0:48:31 - (Jesse Hawila): I'm not like, you know, Delkis is just an impeccable dresser. Like, impeccable. You know, he's probably like, nice suit.
0:48:36 - (Rob Ervin): Talk about a rep to protect.
0:48:38 - (Jesse Hawila): But. Yeah. But, dude, he dresses.
0:48:40 - (Rob Ervin): That's why he's got to be that. Because he's got to be that sharp. Because that's one of the things he's known for.
0:48:44 - (Jesse Hawila): Pockets square and the cuff. He looks amazing. Right? And I come in when I get to work every day, I open my trunk and I go.
0:48:53 - (Mike): Grub it out. Huh?
0:48:54 - (Jesse Hawila): And I'm like, all right. That tie. I think I haven't worn that tie in a week. And then I bring it in. Seriously, we'll go. You look at my truck. It's.
0:49:01 - (Rob Ervin): It's like. I was like, oh, I like that. I'm like, it was on top of the drawer, and it was clean. Those. That's the criteria. And that second one, sometimes is optional.
0:49:09 - (Jesse Hawila): I.
0:49:09 - (Mike): You know, now some people are going to start keeping tabs on your tire.
0:49:13 - (Jesse Hawila): I know they will. That people do that. It's amazing. They're like, well, one person was like, do you ever wear any other shirt? And I'm like, it's a white shirt. I do. I have five white shirts. How could you possibly tell the difference? They are different. I'm like, what am I supposed to wear When.
0:49:27 - (Rob Ervin): Sometimes you got a jacket covering it? So you're.
0:49:29 - (Jesse Hawila): It's always much of the shirt. Yeah. You see this? It's a white. And, like, it's different all the time. I don't know what you're talking about. People keep tabs. They tell you when they don't.
0:49:37 - (Mike): Just for the record, you always look very nice.
0:49:38 - (Jesse Hawila): Thank you very much.
0:49:39 - (Mike): Very squared away. And. And I would have never thought that you keep all your stuff in the truck of your car if you hadn't brought it up.
0:49:46 - (Jesse Hawila): I'll show you when we leave. Man. I'm telling you, it's. That's what I do. I just. When I get to work, I'm like, I hadn't worn that in a while, I think. So there you go. Now you know, next time you see me looking like a slob, which is most times, I never see you looking like, thanks, man.
0:50:03 - (Mike): I mean, even now, you look pretty squared away.
0:50:05 - (Jesse Hawila): Thank you. Thank you. I'm just.
0:50:07 - (Rob Ervin): What other hobbies do you have? We've talked about a few of them.
0:50:11 - (Jesse Hawila): That's a great question. You know, with young kids these days, there's not a lot of time to do much. But video games, which is really a bad hobby to have, I guess, is there?
0:50:21 - (Rob Ervin): What's your go to?
0:50:21 - (Jesse Hawila): I'm a Nintendo nerd. So right now I'm playing Donkey Kong Bonanza on the switch to Sane. Super good. It's like if Breath of the Wild meets Mario Odyssey. It's like these two games combined with a Donkey Kong theme. Spectacular game.
0:50:36 - (Rob Ervin): I'm a. I'm a. I can only do from a video game standpoint. I love me some Mario Kart.
0:50:41 - (Jesse Hawila): Yeah.
0:50:42 - (Rob Ervin): If I can drive a car, I'm good. If I have a light gun in my hand, I'm good. If I'm doing pinball, I'm good. That's kind of the list.
0:50:48 - (Jesse Hawila): Yeah. Well, I will tell you, video games.
0:50:50 - (Mike): Are even shorter than that.
0:50:53 - (Jesse Hawila): That's a good thing. They are a big time waste. I know that. But I.
0:50:56 - (Rob Ervin): It's like, that's another thing. Freeze my mind on my side of town for next. Next March. Have you. Have you been to the Texas Pinball Festival?
0:51:03 - (Jesse Hawila): No. That sounds amazing.
0:51:04 - (Rob Ervin): Basically, it's the Frisco Convention Center. They hollow it out. The entire convention center and some of the side rooms, they do tournaments and. And talks and stuff. Pinball games from the dawn of man.
0:51:17 - (Jesse Hawila): Wow.
0:51:17 - (Rob Ervin): To the brand new stuff. It's all free play. So you pay like. Like a Saturday Pass is like 50 bucks.
0:51:24 - (Mike): It's just pinball.
0:51:25 - (Rob Ervin): Pinball. Old school video games are in there. There's vendors. Yeah. And it's. You can. You'll like walk past something and you'll go like, I remember where I played that game.
0:51:35 - (Mike): Well, I might fit in there because my video game scene stops and starts with pong.
0:51:40 - (Rob Ervin): Yeah. Well, they actually made a pong table that was like. That had a little magnetic thing that went across the field. It's very strange. But no, the pinball festival is one of my favorite things that we do every year. And like the, like the brand new tables, the technology is fantastic. There's a John. New John Wick. Table that is.
0:51:59 - (Jesse Hawila): Oh, wow.
0:51:59 - (Rob Ervin): Amazing. And they just did a new Jaws table for the 50th anniversary and all the big ones are there, but yeah, that's something we got to take you to too, because it's so much fun. We'll go play pinball for three or four hours, grab lunch, come back, play pinball for three or four hours,. Go grab dinner.
0:52:15 - (Jesse Hawila): You have lots of dates planned coming up.
0:52:17 - (Mike): Yeah.
0:52:17 - (Jesse Hawila): You've got concerts, pinball, the room.
0:52:19 - (Rob Ervin): The room on the list.
0:52:21 - (Mike): Yes.
0:52:22 - (Jesse Hawila): You're going to be busy.
0:52:23 - (Mike): Yeah, busy. All thanks to this guy.
0:52:25 - (Jesse Hawila): Yeah.
0:52:25 - (Mike): All thanks to me bringing him in here.
0:52:27 - (Rob Ervin): I will shoulder that blame. Happily.
0:52:29 - (Jesse Hawila): Groups could never. I'm just going to say that.
0:52:31 - (Mike): No, again.
0:52:32 - (Rob Ervin): Grooves was not me.
0:52:34 - (Jesse Hawila): Grooves would never.
0:52:37 - (Mike): Well, Jesse, man, as always, I cannot thank you enough for doing this. You are a trip.
0:52:45 - (Jesse Hawila): No, man, thanks for having me. I. Anytime you ask, the answer is always yes and when. And I'm always happy to be here. It's an honor to be here, truly.
0:52:54 - (Rob Ervin): And you can join us on a Thursday night if you like. Sometime.
0:52:56 - (Jesse Hawila): I'm down. I'm always down.
0:52:58 - (Rob Ervin): Cool.
0:52:59 - (Jesse Hawila): Text me, call me. Let's hang out.
0:53:01 - (Rob Ervin): All right.
0:53:02 - (Jesse Hawila): You talk about pop culture and I'm down.
0:53:05 - (Rob Ervin): The first half is we do sports and then we do television and movies. And then the second half is all pro wrestling.
0:53:10 - (Jesse Hawila): You might have to get me for that second part. Pro wrestling.
0:53:13 - (Rob Ervin): Well, we love it when we have people that aren't as. Aren't as educated in the business because that gives us a fresh perspective.
0:53:18 - (Jesse Hawila): Yeah, that's.
0:53:19 - (Rob Ervin): We were just at COSM for SummerSlam for both nights.
0:53:22 - (Jesse Hawila): I heard that's pretty sweet.
0:53:23 - (Rob Ervin): It's. It's mind blowing because they have their own cameras. So the way it works is the dome. The dome itself has their feed and then there's two sub screens that will have what everybody else watches. So my co host Alex and I, we went there for game six of the Stanley Cup Final. So we had the TNT feed up here, but we had their cameras, which are 10 1/2 K. Wow. One behind each goal, one at center ice. So you were even seeing like their scoreboard Tron.
0:53:55 - (Rob Ervin): And you get everything that happens during the commercial breaks because they don't stop broadcasting.
0:53:59 - (Jesse Hawila): That's sweet.
0:54:00 - (Rob Ervin): And it's. It's mind blowing. Right now they're showing the Matrix and there's their tickets go on sale next month for them doing Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory in there.
0:54:11 - (Mike): Oh, wow.
0:54:11 - (Rob Ervin): Because they're competing with Sphere. Cuz Sphere's doing wizard of Oz.
0:54:14 - (Jesse Hawila): Yes. Huh.
0:54:16 - (Rob Ervin): So incredible. Yeah. The way they're promoing that in Vegas is right. If you go. If you go by Sphere, the Wicked Witch's legs are coming out from underneath it and then they've got the logo on the bottom of her shoes.
0:54:28 - (Jesse Hawila): Oh, that's awesome. Understand. They're even going to have like, the atmosphere.
0:54:31 - (Rob Ervin): So, like during the tornado scene, you.
0:54:33 - (Jesse Hawila): Can feel the wind.
0:54:34 - (Rob Ervin): And that would not shock me even in the least.
0:54:39 - (Mike): They kick it hard at that cosm, man.
0:54:41 - (Rob Ervin): And we were talking before you got here. Apparently Metallica is talking about doing a residency at Sphere next year.
0:54:46 - (Jesse Hawila): I would see that. That would be incredible. That's another band that's on my list. I've never seen live.
0:54:51 - (Rob Ervin): I've never seen them in person when they did through the. Never. We got to screen that in the imax and that was. That was a thing.
0:54:57 - (Jesse Hawila): Sweet.
0:54:58 - (Rob Ervin): Yeah.
0:55:00 - (Jesse Hawila): You've seen a lot.
0:55:02 - (Rob Ervin): Oh. This is our 16th season and we've been doing press screenings for 15 of those 16 seasons.
0:55:08 - (Jesse Hawila): Wow. So.
0:55:09 - (Rob Ervin): And it's. It's kind of cool because a lot of times I'm getting to see movies that maybe I wouldn't think about. Like tonight I'm interested in this movie, but it's not one that I would have gone out of my way to see. But it's also Densel Washington.
0:55:20 - (Mike): Sure. So they got an amazing scene, man. They really do.
0:55:24 - (Rob Ervin): We do what we can. We're just. We're, as we always say, we're just happy to be in the room.
0:55:28 - (Mike): No, the room. I'm happy to be in the room too, always. All right. That is another episode of your Dark companion. Before we go, we must tell you about Thirsty Thursday. That is the 28th of August. It's Rough Riders fantasy football draft night. And YDC and the whole Sunset Lounge gang is going to be out there, going to be holding our draft party. You can catch our draft live at 3:30. Then come on out to the game. Use our special code.
0:56:01 - (Mike): Let's ride 25 and get a ticket preloaded with $6. Good. Toward your first Thirsty Thursday drink or at concessions. And remember, every Thursday, the Lazy river is 21 and up. And I guess that's all for that. But before we go, I got to tell you one other thing, and that is that you can find all our episodes on our Patreon page. You can also find us on YouTube and Spotify. We would appreciate it if you would listen and follow us and share us on your social media.
0:56:36 - (Mike): That means everything to those of us who swim in the waters of the podcast. And while we're at it, if you're feeling what we're throwing down, how about a nice review? If you're by the channel on Spotify or Apple Podcasts, you can help others find us by leaving a review. Once again, thanks to the great Jesse Wheelam. Thank you very much, man. Love having you.
0:57:01 - (Jesse Hawila): It's such an honor to be here, man.
0:57:02 - (Mike): Thank you, Rob. You are a killer, man.
0:57:05 - (Rob Ervin): Thank you.
0:57:06 - (Mike): You're even more lethal than I thought you were.
0:57:09 - (Rob Ervin): I'll take it. And I, I, I, I'm so honored that you asked me to be here today. Means a lot. And I hope I. I've temporarily put on the shoes of Shoopy.
0:57:17 - (Jesse Hawila): Well.
0:57:18 - (Mike): Oh.
0:57:18 - (Rob Ervin): Because I'm. I'm also a fan of him.
0:57:20 - (Mike): So incredibly well. All right. Thanks to you guys. Thanks to Ashley. Thanks to Becca. This has been your dark companion. Thank you for watching. Bye. All right, I'm gonna go take pants off. Your dark companion is a stolen Water Media present.