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what is going on everybody
welcome to the clydesdale
media's sunday night
crossfit talk I'll get
there somewhere I'm just
fresh off the lake my mind
is slowly coming back to
reality uh but yeah
had a good time uh carolyn
will be with us in a little
bit she had reservations
for dinner and uh she's
enjoying that with lex
right now and so as soon as
she's done she'll be
hopping on as we get into
the more important things
we're going to talk about
tonight like ranking the
2024 women of the crossfit
games from 40 all the way
down to one and I think I'm
the only one that's seen
all the lists yes
And it is,
remember last year we were
really similar.
Yeah.
None of us are similar this year.
Interesting.
Yeah.
So it's going to be
interesting to see like
what people think of the lists,
what you guys,
we think of each other's lists,
all of that kind of stuff.
So.
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And if you did not see the
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Fialas on Thursday,
so good and so important.
for what has happened a
mother and daughter,
both qualifying for the
CrossFit games for the
first time as rookies.
And it's on the same weekend.
So mom was going to forego
her rookie year to go with her daughter.
And her daughter said, if you do that,
I'm not going.
Oh man.
Good for the daughter.
So the daughter is going
with dad to Michigan and,
mother and son are going to
birmingham alabama for the
masters and she and so I'm
hoping with behind the
scenes we can catch some
footage of her catching the
daughter on the live stream
and rooting for her some
stuff like that we're going
to try to take those back
stories um use those to get
really good behind the
scenes at the masters uh
crossfit games in birmingham
still bummed because we were
the the this company was
going to forego the elite
crossfit games to cover
both the teens and the
masters right and when they
decided to schedule them
both on the same weekend we
had to make a choice and
jamie's become one of my
best friends so we're going
to the masters
I would almost rather stay
here in Michigan and less stress,
less travel, less money.
It is what it is.
Yeah.
But it's your rookie year at
the CrossFit games.
And with that, how's it going training?
Well, I had, I mean,
I did the fresh coast last weekend,
so there was like little D load to that.
And I took a couple of days after.
So I just feel like I'm back
in that little lull slump.
I don't know.
It's just going to be good weeks,
bad weeks.
Sometimes you feel like
you're dying and overtrained,
and I feel pretty good right now.
So I don't know.
Hopefully we get another good, tough week.
Our good friend Sarah Cooper,
we've got a 70-plus going
from my gym to the Masters.
That's awesome.
Not many of them signed up.
Yeah,
I talked to Lana Marcin at Fresh Coast,
and she was not happy with
the signups that they got
for the 70 plus.
But they have it for this year.
Hopefully,
it's a good enough showing that
they will continue that on.
So big hello, shout outs to Valberto,
Kenneth, Bruce, Sarah, of course,
and Holly,
who are all here with us tonight.
Sorry.
What's up, guys?
So this isn't in our notes or anything.
I was listening to an
interview with Michael
Phelps that he was on Pat McAfee.
And he talked in that interview,
something you said,
like clicked this thing he said,
that he was so psychotic
about his training that he
never missed a day in six years.
Wow.
Never took a rest day.
In six years.
Cause in his mind, if you take one day off,
it takes two days to get
you back to where you were.
Yeah.
And if you, and if he did it every day,
that's 50.
If everybody else took a one rest day,
that gives him 52 days of
training that nobody else had.
I won my one race by one,
one hundredth of a second.
And I believe that those 52
days got me that one,
one hundredth of a second.
Yeah,
I feel like CrossFit especially is a
tough sport to get into that mindset.
I was guilty of that for years.
I would go 30 days without
taking a rest day at all.
And I mean...
There's, there's so many little,
so many different variables,
so many little pieces.
Like, I feel like you, you know,
if you're like, Oh, I feel beat up.
I should move this piece.
And then you get to that day
and it coincides with something else.
It's just like, it's hard.
It is.
It's hard to want to like
trust your body and skip a piece.
Because you do,
you feel like you're
falling behind people
because there's so many
things you constantly need
to be training.
My only thing about this is
I hope young kids are not
listening to this going,
that's what I have to do to be great.
Because, you know,
Rich Froning said that when
he was competing early on, right?
That his body just didn't
like sitting around resting.
Yeah.
So he needed to go move.
And I just, yeah, you needed to move.
And everybody's body reacts different.
When I was swimming five hours a day,
And that was through high
school and then into college.
Like, my body needed a rest.
Like,
it was whooped up by the time Sunday
came.
And I think if I tried to go
seven days a week,
my body would have failed at some point.
I mean,
it's just a recipe for overtraining,
injury.
I mean,
your muscles can't grow without the
rest day, so...
Michael Phelps is a cyborg
that just comes around once
in a lifetime.
And to try to emulate that greatness is,
is just a recipe for, for disappointment.
I think if everybody tried
to do it the way he did it, you know,
you look at Jason Hopper
trying to emulate Matt Fraser and,
and he has his worst finish
ever at the games.
Right.
You have to do what works best for you.
Absolutely.
Anyway,
just a little side note as
something I listened to as
I was relaxing this weekend.
So we'll go into our,
what are you watching?
How far are you into the bear?
I watched one more episode.
Okay.
I do not have time.
I am stressed.
It's tough.
Yeah.
we finished it we finished
season three oh nice um
right before we went on
vacation um but we couldn't
get it took us like a week
to get the last episode um
I just I hate watching the
last episode because I know
that I just want to watch
more right and I have to
wait a year right
And that's where I'm at.
And this one, the story just, so not to,
I'm not, no spoiler alert here,
but when you,
season two was so phenomenal,
moving the story forward.
To me,
season three does not move the story
forward very much.
It's almost like,
those,
those middle sequels that are
setting up the end and it's
setting up like the next season.
So it doesn't really get anywhere.
And you feel like let down from the season,
even though everybody's
great in it and the story's great.
It just didn't go very far.
It makes sense.
So there's that.
The other thing I'm totally
into is receiver now.
I've seen clips.
which was quarterback last year.
Right.
Receiver this year.
Um, yeah,
I'm like four episodes into that
and I think it's seven.
So that's pretty good.
Yeah.
I enjoyed quarterback.
I'm sure.
I'm sure I would like the receiver.
Yeah.
It's really,
this one is way more people
instead of three quarterbacks, five,
five receivers.
Um,
And it's funny.
They all kind of got hurt at
the same time.
So it kind of shows you how rough it is.
Yeah.
And some want to blame the
quarterback for why they're getting hurt.
Some don't.
But your Amon Ross St.
Brown is in it.
Yeah.
And in the first episode,
he tears his oblique from the bone.
Yeah.
And continues to play.
Yeah.
That just, that doesn't even seem.
They're tough.
Kenneth, you are correct.
I thought I heard the Hard
Knocks is doing the Chicago
Bears this year.
Is that true?
It is completely true.
And I cannot wait.
The first episode is like August 7th,
I think, 6th or 7th.
Uh, but they're there now.
Uh,
the bear started training camp this
last week.
Um,
HBO has already been there doing their
thing.
Um,
so it'll be interesting to see what
comes out from it.
Very exciting.
Um, heard Tyson Bajans having a great, uh,
he had a great spring and coming into, uh,
the season and like
solidified himself as the
backup quarterback, uh,
with like no debate.
That's awesome.
So, um, and he's been getting some,
some run in the Chicago media.
Cause like,
I'm always looking for bear
stuff on YouTube and like
he pops up quite a bit this year.
Uh, just his dad,
the whole arm wrestling story.
Um,
and he always talks about CrossFit as
his way to do stuff.
So that's, it's cool.
Yeah.
I like following him.
It's still disappointing
that CrossFit has not used him more.
Agree.
uh to do do some things so
uh try your dagger says
let's rank some folks we're
gonna get there we're gonna
get there we have a third
person coming in carolyn's
on her way she just is uh
uh out to dinner with lex
and as soon as she gets in
we'll we'll get to the fun
stuff but one thing I did
want to I wanted to pull up
is last week we talked about
why CrossFit isn't
promoting the Tia Laura rivalry more.
And they took one step, one baby step,
with this post.
And we talked about it,
that she made this quote
However it goes, it ends with me winning.
And that they should use that.
And then they should have
some clips of Tia, like,
dominating and back and forth.
So they took this tiny step, like,
that we wanted them to take so bad.
And then nothing.
Followed this up.
Yeah.
We are less than two weeks
away from the CrossFit Games.
This mega rivalry on the horizon.
And this, it's a step.
We asked for a step.
Yeah, they shared it at least.
I mean, it got lots of interaction.
Sarah,
neither one of them need to participate.
They've already said things.
They've already done things.
Oh, I think Laura wants to participate.
I mean,
she's the one putting it out there.
When NBC promotes the Sunday
night football game,
they don't go ask the
players for footage of what
they're doing.
They go back and get clips
and put it together to
promote their show.
CrossFit has a show coming up.
They have a show that
they're trying to get eyes on,
that they're trying to get
butts in seats.
They should be taking clips
and making a montage of
these two women going at it.
Mm-hmm.
Clips from Rogue.
Clips from when they've
competed in the past.
They're the last two champions.
It's everything there is.
I agree.
Tia probably would not participate.
I cannot even follow her social media.
It is all ads.
But she is interviewed after events.
Sure.
Yes, they could pull clips.
Would she be active and be making posts?
No.
Could they create their own storyline?
Sure.
You could do it with footage
of them competing against each other.
Yeah.
It doesn't even have to be
anything she says.
Like it just, it's so damn frustrating.
Yeah.
Small team.
They can't do that stuff.
Scott.
Well,
then they have people like Jason and
Dallin actually saying
things and they could grab those clips.
Yes.
We could put those together.
Like you listen to these interviews,
Lazar Jukic with Sivan the
other day is talking about
throw eight names in the hat, nine,
ten names in the hat.
Anyone could win the games.
Very true.
We haven't had that in forever.
Throw all their stuff in.
Who you got this year?
Do a whole who you got campaign.
Have Roman's interview after
the box overs at semifinals,
right into Dallin's interview,
right into Hopper's, like all that stuff.
It's all out there.
All they have to do is
curate it and throw it together.
Oh, gosh, it's frustrating.
Going to have to do the work for them.
But it's funny.
We actually said this last week,
and we got this,
and then I was watching for more,
and it never came.
Never came.
So.
Anyway.
Metcon Rush.
Did you see anything from there?
I didn't.
They did some Instagram lives.
I was really jealous because
I was supposed to go to Metcon Rush.
Right.
But had to pull out of that
because of vacation planned
by my wife and had to
choose happy wife life over
going to Metcon Rush.
But one of my favorite
people in the world won the women's side.
And that is Freya Mooseburger.
So huge shout out to her.
She was followed in second
by Samantha Pugh and third Chloe Serrano.
And the winners got three grand.
That's almost as much as
like winning a semifinal.
Yeah.
Not a bad day.
Not a bad weekend.
Vi actually says,
Dave admitting that
dismantling the media
department was a huge mistake.
It's kind of a win though.
And maybe it means changes are coming.
And Vi is speaking to, in an interview,
he was asked,
what's the one thing he
would change if he could
change anything in the past?
And it was the dismantling
of the media department.
Yeah.
I mean, he brought that up.
Well,
I feel like Pat brought that up as well,
the media.
And then a different interview,
he brought that up.
So, I mean, it was brought up twice.
Yeah.
because of the way the
question was asked though, it was,
it had more punch.
Yeah.
What is the one mistake you
would want to do differently?
Um, and so, yeah,
and we can get into some of that,
but Sarah is,
and we're jumping all over
the place till Carolyn gets here,
but Sarah is asking who my Funkos are.
I have a bunch by the way.
Like if you saw on the other side there,
there's a bunch, but I have the flash.
I have,
my namesake thor then I have
some fun ones uh this is
mike didka nice the bears
this is uh the tick I don't
know if you're it's like it
was a sitcom comedy uh
super super funny and then
this is uh slash from guns and roses
And then back here who fell down is, uh,
Walter Payton.
So, yeah,
I used to collect all kinds of things,
but now I just collect, uh,
mint trading cards.
These wax packs are so freaking fun.
This takes me back to like
1984 saving my allowance,
going down to the store and
open up at football cards
and being excited about who was inside.
If you have not got yourself
a mint trading card, wax pack,
got to go on mint trading cards.
Wad zombie is the freaking
coolest dude in the space.
These are the coolest
trading thing in the space.
Go grab you some, um,
Some of his new ones are Enola Kai,
which I've learned in the
Dave Castro interviews.
He's like the coolest guy in CrossFit.
Right?
Yeah.
Hattie Cano.
He's got Savan, Adrian Conway, Chase.
I don't know who else.
I got a bunch of them.
But anyway, go check those out.
They're awesome.
Um...
Trying to catch up on everything.
SoCal Whizza.
SoCal Whizza?
Yeah.
SoCal.
That's what's next.
This comment.
The people in CrossFit media
do not love CrossFit.
It is a job, not a passion.
Their work quality proves it.
That is evident.
I would agree.
And Sarah Cooper has the
Harry Potter Funkos.
I have Harry as well, somewhere up there.
And then the other Metcon Rush winner,
we forgot, we didn't finish that out.
Luis Oscar Mora won.
Nick Matthew took second.
And Benoit Boulanger took third.
So all big-time semifinal athletes.
Metcon Rush is killing it over there.
um, in Maryland,
I've got to get there next year.
Like it is those,
one of those mid majors
that is going to grow the sport.
And I've been saying that
for months now it crash.
So Cal or NorCal classic,
those beach brawl,
all those kinds of things.
They're the ones that are
going to grow the sport
because they're getting
really good names.
uh someday we'll see him we
we were we fulfilled your
request from last week
seeing our og pictures I'm
just waiting for carolyn to
jump in for those as well
so uh so okay so socal
wadapalooza um do I have to
say tear in there too I
don't know I have no idea
yeah it's a long name
is as named a bunch of
people since we last met.
It started with Lazar Jukic
for the world team,
Ariel Lowen for the North American team,
Justin Medeiros for the
North American team,
Sahir Kaya for the world team,
and they've been added to
the rosters of Tia Toomey, Jeff Adler,
and Danielle Brandon.
So that's shaping up to be a
star-studded event.
Yes.
It'll be exciting.
Yeah, super exciting.
And I think this question
was thrown in here by our co-host,
Carolyn.
But we'll go ahead and we'll
attack it now.
We got into it last week
about the Hall of Fame.
Right.
And Carolyn forgot Matt.
And then she stuck to her
guns on Instagram and said
she's keeping Matt out of
the inaugural class,
which makes no sense to me.
And I'd love to hear the
explanation on this.
And she was going with Kalipa, Miko Salo,
and Rich.
So with this, she asked,
who would your MVP out of
Matt and Rich be?
I'll let you go first.
I think I know your answer.
Do you?
I don't know.
So if I had to... Well,
this depends on MVP how.
Like who I would put on a
team to try to win an event,
I would have to go with that.
If...
If it was, like,
who was the biggest
contribution to the sport of CrossFit,
for sure I would go with Rich.
So I think it's Rich on both fronts.
Matt is, I mean, just like Tia, like,
unrivaled.
Yeah.
I would have loved to seen
them actually go head to head.
I just did.
Well, 2014.
Yeah.
That doesn't count.
No, that does not count.
Like, like a 2018, 19 head to head.
I would have liked to seen them go.
That's not fair to rich.
Cause rich is older.
Yeah.
And rich was great against the field when,
when things weren't as
heavy and skills weren't as ran as deep.
Matt could still demolish fields in very,
very deep fields.
I don't know.
I would have to see Rich
have competed in that time frame.
I just think Matt's
domination is unparalleled.
They both retired on top,
meaning they both probably
left stuff on the table.
So when you're going four to five,
that doesn't mean much to
me because I'm convinced
Rich could have beat Ben Smith in 15.
Yeah.
Right.
And to be honest,
Matt probably wins a couple
more if he wants to.
but rich only, he never tried to dominate.
Rich did enough.
I agree with that.
So like,
you're not going to get the spread
you would get with Matt.
They had different mindsets,
which was about saving his
body for the end.
And he never lost on Sunday.
Yep.
And his plan worked beautifully.
I agree.
So I don't, I don't know.
I think it's, it's a toss up.
If you really look at it, um,
Because Rich had that, they both had that,
I'm not going to lose mentality.
And they were willing to die
on that hill to do it.
I wish we had some insight
to Matt's time at Mayhem.
And like,
I think there was someone alluded to,
you know, like they're,
they both have that won't back down.
So like if they had to work,
if they worked out together
in the gym together,
they were both going to try
to win that workout.
And,
and it's hard to do just workout
training sessions every day,
trying to win.
Um,
but I wish we would've gotten more
insight into that.
Like was rich beating Matt
60% of the time.
I like, and we'll never know.
I'm sure.
I wish somebody would come out with that.
It's like how many licks it
takes to get to the center
of a Tootsie Pop.
The world will never know.
It's too bad.
Someone in there has got to
have some insight.
Your coach,
didn't Rich overhead squat
nearly 400 pounds in 2014?
Yes, he did.
What's Matt's overhead squat?
Not as heavy.
Wink.
Yeah.
Rich was strong back in the day.
Oh, yeah.
Yes.
Like at Invitationals,
he was trying ridiculous
numbers that nobody else
even had a shot at.
Vi says,
Matt was a more impressive athlete
than Rich.
Obviously, it's all conjecture,
but I think peak Matt would be peak Rich.
Rich has clearly done more for the sport,
so it's probably about what matters.
yeah I agree I like if I
would pick rich to
represent crossfit any day
of the week um it's it's
pretty overwhelming that
it's rich yeah um
throughout here uh sarah
matt influences sport after
rich I might add rich is crossfit
Rich is the goat of CrossFit,
but Matt was the most
dominant individual.
Rich has done more for CrossFit than Matt.
Yeah,
I don't think anybody can dispute any
of those.
But I do think everybody
just automatically says
that Matt was more dominant.
And Rich,
after his first year taking second,
never lost.
Right?
So he did everything he
needed to do to win.
Matt had a different mindset
he wanted to crush the
competition he wanted to
set records I'm not sure
that's what mattered to
Rich I think Rich just
wanted to win at the end of
the day I mean it would
have been nice to see them
continue on because I don't
like could Rich have
trained to that capacity I
don't know I don't know but
you're right he's older
that's that's a tougher ask yeah
And D Reed says,
Andy beat Matt head to head.
And he'll always have that in his pocket.
That's true.
So.
The fields that Matt beat were tougher.
Possibly.
So.
Clock says,
could Rich have learned to run like Matt?
Doubtful.
Rich got better at running.
Yeah.
He hired Henshaw.
Henshaw worked with him.
He got marketably better.
And it caused a rift between
him and Kalipa because
Kalipa was pissed because
he thought he had the key
to success over Rich.
Did Kalipa have Henshaw first?
Yes.
Yeah.
I've heard Henshaw tell the story.
Yeah.
So Tristan Patrick says,
I go back to the 21-59 complex.
Everyone says that's the
only time they have ever seen Rich go,
and he destroyed the field.
Which complex?
I'm not sure.
I don't know.
Rich had that clutch gene,
could bring it whenever he needed it.
Matt did too.
Yeah.
So, but yeah.
But for some reason,
you throw those two names
out there and it always
sparks debate and everybody goes forever.
Sure.
But anyway,
let's move on to the Dave interviews.
He's done 79 of them.
Wow.
There's one left, I believe.
He only has one left.
Who is it?
And it is Danielle Brandon.
Oh, what the heck?
There was a poll, I think,
put out by Barbell Spin
that asks who's going to be the last.
Most of the votes were Danielle,
saying that it's because
that's his favorite, they're friends,
blah, blah, blah.
I have tried to schedule Danielle.
It is one of the toughest
things I've ever done in my life.
We have had her on the show twice,
but it took multiple
attempts to get her on.
But I cannot imagine going
to the games and
consciously dissing Dave.
Halpin did correct me.
I should have.
That's right.
78 because he didn't do Ilya
Markov because he didn't get his visa.
He's not coming anyway.
Yep.
But again, and yes, Yvonne said this too.
I heard it as well.
She is nearly impossible to schedule.
But I don't have Dave's clout.
So hopefully Dave can get
Get that scheduled because
she hasn't done any media.
When we were doing these rankings,
that was going through my head.
This is the first year we
haven't seen Danielle do media.
She did the documentary.
We haven't heard from her since.
Yeah.
It's just posts of more her
brands and stuff, her sponsors.
That's all I've seen.
Yeah.
So it actually...
I didn't know whether to
influence my ranking or not
because it just seems like
a different approach this year.
Yeah.
Um,
and we'll see where that ended up later
tonight.
Uh,
Dave announced during the Elisa Fuliano
interview, um,
that we now know all the outdoor events.
So it appears that we're
only doing the run,
swim outside and Farrington field.
Um,
which was then announced
later to be the field sprint rest,
1600 meters.
Then on Dave's Instagram,
we got a clue and I'm going
to share my screen that
this implement would be
used at Farrington field.
And that is this little guy,
the happy star.
Then barbell spin took it a
step further and blew this up.
And you can see it says 190 pounds,
70 pounds, 70, 70.
Uh, so that's a heavy star.
Yeah.
How much was the Husafal bag?
I don't think it was that much.
$150?
Carolyn will be on in 10 minutes.
Sweet.
They had a heavy cheese curd one year,
didn't they?
Didn't that go like black, black,
yellow cheese curd and that
was the heavy one, like $200? $200.
So Sarah says the Husafell
she thought was $150, $200.
I'm sure Halpin knows if
he's still with us.
That sounds about right.
The cheese curds the first
year were only $175 because
I had to move them.
I volunteered for that event.
But I think in years after that,
they went heavier with the cheese curd.
Yeah.
Sarah is correct, according to Halpin.
150 and 200 for the who's a fell.
So if it's one 70 for women
and then two quarter,
maybe that's the question.
Is this the women's or the men's bag?
We will probably find out in
a week or two.
Ski bag was 200, one 25.
I would like,
like to think being a sprint
that that's the men's.
Do we know it's a sprint?
Yeah, that's true.
They just say,
he just said it's going to
be used in an individual event six.
There is a 1600 meters that
they don't tell you how
that is going to be done.
They do say field sprint and
then 1600 meters.
They had to carry that who's
a fell a long way upstairs.
Yeah.
Yeah, I don't know.
Yeah.
Judy Reed, of course she's correct.
Sarah Cooper is lead female analyst.
Well,
I like to think Jamie and Carolyn are,
but we'll let Sarah in that club.
I mean, I like the idea,
even if it is just start at
the end of the turf,
pick up the bag and sprint down.
I like that idea.
Like you always get like Kelly Baker.
somebody tripping over their feet,
trying to run with those
bags in their hands.
My dream is that the sprint
is strong man's fear.
That is one of my favorite events.
Ever.
Yeah, I love that.
At the games.
You've got a football field.
You can break it up with
handstand walks or other
things on the field like
they did back in 2017 and
put other apparatus out
there with the happy star.
And maybe the happy star is
just the last implement you have to use.
But I loved that event.
I was in the pits for that.
I moved the yolks and I loved,
I loved seeing that live.
And there were a lot of races.
If you remember,
that's when Fikowski and
Fraser went off the edge of the,
the field racing to the end of that.
Yeah.
draw your dagger I've
personally seen with my own
eyes this weekend women
moving 200 pound bag pretty
well I know where draw your
dagger was and that means
that fee Alexis and Paige
Semenza were moving some
200 pound bags understand I
want to see them carry the
bag around the track for
the 1600 meters and they
race NASCAR style Robin and racing
Strongman Sphere is the best
games event ever.
I agree.
It was so many people failed
right at the edge of the
line for the handstand
walks and had to go back.
People were crushed by those
big Viking implements that
they had to carry.
It was crazy.
I do think that that's like the best.
I mean,
this is your time to showcase our
sport to everyone.
you've invited people off
the street to come in and watch this.
Like, don't just give them a track meet,
give them something that
like showcases our athletes.
Slater logs.
Yeah.
Lex says,
I want Danielle to play hard to get.
I think she is.
Yeah.
I think she always plays that game.
I do too.
so so we have that implement
I'm hoping for strongman
sphere are what are you
hoping for yeah I agree I
think something like that
is is the right idea it if
it's just a sprint or even
just a sprint with that bag
running down like if that's
it it's not enough time on
the field it's not enough
like that's just two short
little things five six max
seven minutes of a mile run like
If you're going to bring
people out and tell people
to show up at Farrington Field,
it's got to be worth their time.
It's got to be a long enough event.
It's got to showcase our athletes.
I think Strongman's Fear or
something like that would
be a great choice.
Halpin says there has to be
more on paper even with that sandbag.
The heats are eight to 10
minutes of total work.
That doesn't seem like very long.
Yeah, I think he, correct me if I'm wrong,
Mike,
but you are actually computing out
in your head how long with
the sandbag and the runs
and all that kind of stuff
would take heats to go through.
Well, he must have,
maybe there's already like,
So that's what, is that Friday night?
Is that ESPN's broadcast hour, two hour?
So there's two hours.
Correct.
Scheduled for this.
Sarah.
Oh no.
Beck.
Do you guys remember the
2020 games event called happy star?
Was that the run shoulder to overhead one?
they had to go out to
different locations at the
ranch and come back and then do,
I think it was shouldered overhead,
right?
Yeah.
Uh, she is saying, uh, redo redux.
Yeah.
No,
I think the burpees over the log were a
different event.
Uh,
that was actually might've been the
same event.
They might've come in from running out,
got done the thing over the,
I don't know.
I can't remember if that was
the same event or different event.
So Alvin's calculations are 120 yards.
Sandbag run rest six to seven minute mile.
Yeah.
Do says two 2020 hill run burpee thruster.
So that was different than the happy star.
Okay.
So that, okay.
So that was the one with bar
muscle up shoulder to overhead.
And the women were getting
crushed on the shoulder to overhead.
You could tell the fatigue
on her last rep.
We didn't think we'd ever see that.
You could see the difference
there between the men and
women in the shoulder fatigue.
That's one of the ones I go
back to when everyone is
asking for heavier for the women.
It has to be the right movements.
I think people forget about
the cumulative shoulder
fatigue on women when you
pair it with bar muscle-ups,
ring muscle-ups, shoulder-to-overhead.
The other news that's come
out this week is event one, the run swim,
is tentatively scheduled for 7 a.m.
Dave did say they're going
to make the demo team do it at 7 a.m.
And then if it's too hot,
they're going to go at 6 a.m.
Okay.
I don't know what
temperature difference
you're going to get between 6 and 7.
And I think they're overthinking the heat,
but that's me.
And then we finished with
teams are using a
paddleboard for event one.
Do we think they're doing that big one?
I don't know.
I don't.
There's a big one in the picture,
and it's a picture with Sam
Dancer and Jen Dancer and
Christine Kohlenbrander and
Jared Stevens.
Yes.
Those two men would need the
big paddleboard.
Just saying.
But it makes you wonder, well,
they don't say anything
about a paddleboard in Run Swim.
Yeah.
I don't think the
individuals are going to
have a paddleboard, personally.
I think it's Run Swim.
That's straightforward.
Sam Briggs posted an event
she did with the big
paddleboard on her Instagram.
That thing is so big.
I mean,
I could see all four of them like
laying on it and I don't know, or,
or standing, but I don't know.
I feel like that'd be a disaster.
I don't think you could
coordinate for people standing.
There's Sam Briggs.
That's old school.
Look at the progenics logos.
That's a six-person team.
Is this a throwback picture
or something she recently did?
She just posted it,
but if you see that Progenix logo,
that's old.
It's got to be old.
Yeah,
it seems like something she repurposed.
I think Carolyn is with us.
Hello.
What's up?
How was dinner?
It was so good.
It was a hibachi.
That's what I had today too.
I forgot that we had booked
it like last week and I
didn't even think about the
time difference.
It's like, oh yeah, 4 p.m.
is perfect.
But I forgot that we are at
5 Pacific here.
We have one more thing and
then we're going to get
into our rankings and goofy pictures.
So first is,
and the last thing is Pat's
interview with Dave.
We talked about this one
that a lot of people felt
it was the best ones yet.
And it definitely was the longest.
It went 30 minutes of back
and forth with Pat and Dave.
And what were your thoughts, ladies?
I'll let Carolyn go.
I mean,
you're not going to keep Pat to a
short interview.
That's for sure.
He always has so much to say.
He was, yeah,
that probably my favorite
interview was Pat.
I liked that he pushed back
on some of the events.
He had some, you know, good humor with,
you know, is that,
Are you just out of ideas
and stuff like that?
I thought he brought up good
points on the step-ups and
his concerns with the
standards and it being
across all lanes being fair.
It looked like Dave was like, yep,
those are great points and
stuff like that.
I wouldn't be surprised to
see the step over if that
was the case or something like that.
It seemed like Dave
acknowledged his concern and
is thinking of ways that that will happen.
Yeah.
I thought it was a great discussion.
I feel like they could keep
going on for a long time,
but they kept it to 30 minutes.
Yeah.
You know, me, you know,
Pat is like one of my
favorite CrossFitters.
I loved it.
Yeah.
It was my favorite interview.
But yeah, I, I couldn't tell.
I could like, I totally agree.
dave agreed with with scott
with pat but I don't know
that he I don't know that
that means that it won't
still be step ups and it is
what it is and like I don't
know but if you look at how
the athletes are moving
online like I still don't
think it's that great I
agree I agree leaving it up
to the judges and letting
Letting a workout be
determined by a judge is not right.
And I don't know if Dave is, like,
trying to see if he can get
these judges in line and make an event,
like, be judged properly.
Or, like Scott has said,
want to double down on this.
I'm going to show you how to do it right.
I think he acknowledged Pat very well.
And he was like, yep, you're right.
But I don't know what that means.
we're going to change it.
Ken Walter says Pat has
concerns with almost every event.
He's definitely one of the more vocal ones,
him and Brent at every briefing,
they always have questions
or concerns on some of the things,
but it's because they want a fair,
a fair competition.
So like every time we have briefings,
like Pat's always bringing
up possible cheating ways just to be like,
make sure everyone knows
that that's wrong type thing,
which I mean,
It's nice to have someone
speak up at briefings that
just has so much experience.
And I think that's what I
took away from the interview as well,
is it was two people that
have a lot of experience in
our sports just chatting away.
Yeah.
You have this comment in
there about Haley's interview,
and I didn't do it justice
when we talked about it,
but she said it perfectly.
And, like, I didn't mind the workout,
but this is what I said
when we talked about it last week.
I don't think you can
bastardize the workout.
Like, it's a workout that means something,
and I don't want to see it changed.
That's my biggest issue.
Like, I get Pat's concern, but it's Chad.
It's for something.
It's step-ups.
Do them right.
I think Pat has embraced the
get off your lawn character
and loves living that life.
I'm the grumpy old man on
the porch and I want
everybody off my lawn.
But Haley brought up a
really good point that this,
this workout means
something to a lot of people.
And after struggling with
mental health over the last year,
she thinks it's
disrespectful to challenge
what it is and what it means.
And while I don't think,
I think Pat was just being
Pat and not like trying to
take away its meaning.
He just is thinking about
the sport and the competition.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
But this is also my concern
when we talked about this,
like doing hero workouts
for speed at the games
versus doing hero workouts
at your gym and, you know,
suffering with other people
from the community and stuff like that.
Like that's the difference
between do you put those
hero workouts on the line
and skirt the line?
Right.
And like, I think if the twist is,
you know,
getting them away from the box too often,
like you're also getting
rid of that stimulus of
that stamina of just steps, like step up,
step up.
Cause that changes the whole
workout as well.
If you start having, I don't know.
pull-ups or something in between,
something that you can do with a ruck.
I mean, they could do a barbell,
like one's a 45 men's barbell,
one's a 35 barbell,
and you're just holding it this way.
Like, I don't know if it's an actual ruck,
but the ruck would make
sense just because of the sponsorship.
But yeah,
I do like the idea of keeping it
as much as possible to the
workout and what it was written as.
What I thought was
interesting is Haley put
herself in the shoes of
Chad's wife and his kids.
There's this big honor that
my husband or father's name,
his workout is being used
at the CrossFit Games and
what that would mean to them.
And hearing people
disrespect the workout
isn't good for them.
And so I thought...
it was an interesting,
it was a take that I did
not think about when I've
been talking about it.
And I,
I'm glad she mentioned something
about it because there are
people associated with Chad
and what it means and
they're affected by
everything we say about it.
And what a cool feeling they
would have that knowing this,
their dad's workout is at
the CrossFit games.
Yeah.
Vi says, Pat speaks his mind,
and I love him for that.
You won't catch him biting his tongue,
and CrossFit has enough sycophants,
so he brings good balance.
I love his takes.
Again, I love the character he's become.
He is getting to be one of
the elder statesmen,
and people want to hear
what he has to say.
And I don't think he meant any disrespect.
I don't think anybody did,
but it is something to think about.
Yeah.
So, so anyway, with that last week,
we talked about how at one
point in my life,
I was such a fan of Rich
Froning that I tried to
dress like him when I would
do workouts and people said,
we need to see the pics.
So I have a few pics and I
asked Jamie and Carolyn to share theirs.
And so Jamie has one that's classic,
but I'll let her,
hers will come up later.
So I'll start with mine and
we'll go through.
So this one is I did a 5K or
5 miler and got long socks,
the Nike free runs, the pink headband.
Yeah.
Excellent.
I have a lot of pictures like that.
and if I can figure out how
to shrink the screen here
we go uh this one is me
carrying my buddy at a comp
this one is me as rich
really uh with the black
headband the facial hair
the rich running t-shirt I
have the necklace right
there uh so supporting that
pretty good um here's carolyn
I couldn't find anything.
I don't have anything from back then.
I just used to always wear
high stance socks all the time.
But you got the wrist wraps.
Yeah.
You got the nanos going.
Chalk everywhere.
Yeah, I had nanos, all of them,
every single pair.
This was Carolyn's first competition.
Wow.
That would be one.
I think that's the last time
that you'll see me in a sports bra.
I think I just was following
what everyone does in CrossFit.
So that's why I sent it.
I'm like,
I will never be in a sports bra
at a competition ever.
You won't find me.
I'm in a t-shirt or tank top.
Are those Nike lifters in the sand?
I don't even know.
I think they're running
shoes at that point.
And then I switched to
Reeboks for the rest, basically.
I know I have some more here.
Uh, Oh, this one is pretty good one.
Oh, that's a good one.
Yeah.
The red headband, the red shirt.
I still wear a headband
every single time I work out.
So like, Oh,
find pictures of the headbands
or something.
That's me every day.
I wear my junk headband all the time.
And then we have, we have Jamie.
taped up the rock tape, like crazy.
Um, the headband, the bright green shoes,
the tall socks.
Yeah, I have so many,
I still have all my tall
socks of every color to
match every outfit.
And I actually,
I like wearing tall socks
so that I don't always have
to pull my knee sleeves down.
And cause I dragged the
barbell right along my shins.
Um, so I, I still have my tall socks.
I like them.
I'm used to them from running.
Um,
I just always had like either tall
socks or compression.
I wanted to feel this one
because I wanted to say my
front rack has gotten so
much better since this pick.
So much better.
But the board shorts,
the Rogue Fitness board shorts,
the rock tape on the knees, the grips.
There we go.
The necklace right there.
Yeah.
But my front rack is so much better.
Trust me.
So I actually stretch before
I work out now.
That's good.
So anyway, that was fun.
And if you guys have any of that stuff.
like shoot it to us and tag
us on Instagram.
We'd love to share it.
Cause we all like went down
that road a while back.
Right.
Judy gets it.
Send us your tall socks, Judy.
I did cross it when the tall socks were in,
but I wish they were still a thing.
You can still wear them, Judy.
I still do.
Judy.
I did not get the Galatians tattoo.
um so then what we have next
is our rankings I'm the
only person that's seen all
three lists I've changed
mine five times since I got
back from vacation I wrote
mine in five minutes I'm
not honestly I didn't try
to think about it too much
because I know a lot of
these competitors obviously and it
I don't know.
I didn't want to think about it too much.
That was my first quick glance at it.
And same Carolyn.
I,
I think I could probably make an
argument with looking at
the order of events that we
know so far and maybe
making some adjustments,
but I just like threw mine
down and I'm like, we're going with this.
This is basically my list
that I submitted to help
him for any events.
So, um, yeah, I think.
I feel like,
unsure from 22 to 13 12-ish
and then I i don't feel
sure from like eight to
three yeah I mean it all
depends on the workouts so
freaking hard it does john
young just jumped in he
knows how hard this stuff
is before any events so hard
The thing that's tough is
you don't know injuries
going into the competitions.
You don't know people's mindsets.
There's so many factors,
like what the workouts are,
that makes it hard to pick the order.
Last year,
as soon as I was doing the demo
and I knew what the workouts were,
I could, in my head,
pick certain athletes.
But if I don't know all the workouts,
it's just harder because
you know what their
strengths and weaknesses are.
I still feel fine with my list.
I just feel confident.
um so back yeah huge
congrats to john young his
wife they found out that
they're having a little
girl um so super congrats
to john young on that and
will we appreciate it hit a
like for that youtube
algorithm would appreciate
a like and a subscribe if
you haven't already done so
you'll be a great girl dad john
I was a girl dad.
I still am.
My little girl is 22 years old,
turning 23 this week.
So, yeah.
You will love it.
It's been the best 23 years of my life.
My dad was a five-time girl dad.
All girls?
Five girls.
So, all right.
Here we go.
We'll share the list.
And I am going to try to blow.
It's not going to blow up.
Shoot.
Go full screen.
I'm in Canva to do this so I can go from.
John says, goodness, Carolyn,
the stuff of nightmares.
That's a lot of estrogen in one house.
This is 31 to 40 and I'll
blow it up so you can just see our lists.
You don't need the header, right?
No.
So
We will go with Jamie's first.
She has Gemma Rader in 40th, DeJuan Young,
39th, Georgia Pryor, 38th,
Andrea Pinheiro, 37th, Daisy McDonald,
36th, Shung Young Choi, 35th,
Kyra Milligan, 34th, Chloe Govan David,
33, 32, Claudia Gluck, and 31,
Victoria Campos.
Carolyn, you want to read yours?
Because that's a lot.
my eyes.
40 is Raider, then Dwan Jung,
then the Brazilians, both of them,
Daisy McDonald, Georgia Pryor,
Victoria Campos, Caroline Stanley,
Lexi Neely, and Linda Kiesman.
And I rounded out with Pinheiro last,
Gemma Raider 39th,
Georgia Pryor, then DeJuan Young,
Daisy McDonald, Kyra Milligan, Julia Cato,
Lexi Neely, Jacqueline Dahlstrom,
and Victoria Campos.
I cannot put Pinero any higher than 40th.
The fact that you know
she... It's pretty clear
she's been on something,
and you don't think she's going to...
use that to finish higher than she,
than you have her.
I think, I don't care.
I don't care.
I won the, first of all,
the first event is going to
be terrible for her.
And I thank goodness.
Very true.
And she's going to get off to a bad start.
And I just hope it continues that way.
Cause I do think she is
using stuff and I don't
want to give her any credit
for any more than that.
I have a question for
Carolyn about Caroline Stanley.
I can't believe she has her down this low.
I don't know.
Every year there's one or two people that,
like last year, where did she finish?
In the 30s?
The 20s?
High 20s?
I'm not sure.
I think there's some times
where you can't predict some weekends.
I was stuck with that at the end.
So that's my Jacqueline Dahlstrom pick.
Someone always ends up down
there and that's my pick.
I had Jacqueline around the 29 at first.
And then I,
I just know that she's often
been in the late teens.
So then I last decision just
switch some people around, but yeah.
Do I think Stanley can finish much higher?
Yeah.
I think Stanley can get close to 20.
Yeah.
I don't know.
Like I,
I think she's probably between 24 and 30,
but when I did my rankings quickly,
didn't think about it twice.
Just,
kept going.
Yeah.
Trend don't float, Jamie.
That's true.
Event one will not be good for her.
And the mile run won't be good for her.
So she's got a couple there that.
And Lynn, this is, this is overall,
this is how we think
they're going to finish
with very limited
information at this year's
CrossFit games.
Yeah.
Jamie,
you and I both have Kyra Milligan
down low.
I saw some comments in there.
I don't think these first
events stack up for her very well at all.
That doesn't mean that the others won't.
Plus,
because of the situation with underdogs,
they have put her in a
place where massive change
one month out of the games.
I don't think that's good for competition.
so yeah I don't know I just
feel like there's other
people fitter than her I i
think I mean it doesn't
matter they're not there
but I just think like if
she would have been in the
east I don't she wouldn't
be going yeah so let's move
on to the next 10 um jamie
you want to go through your
list can you see them
Yeah, Linda Caseman, 30, Lexi Neely,
Caroline Stanley, Julia Cato, Sahar Kaya,
Alisa Fuliano, Hattie Cagno, Amy Kringle,
Danny Spiegel, Jacqueline Dahlstrom.
Caroline?
Choi, Hattie, 29, Kyra, Claudia Gluck,
Sahar Kaya,
in 26.
Juliano in 25.
Chloe in 24.
Bethany, I just don't know with her back.
She can be anywhere from
close to top 10 and I have no idea.
We never know with her.
Danny Spiegel and then Amy Kringle.
And I go 30.
Now here's going to be the shocker.
Claudia Gluck in 30th.
Maddie Sturt, 29th.
Chung Young Choi, 28th.
Linda Kiesman, 27th.
Brooke Wells, 26th.
Emma McQuaid, 25th.
Sahir Kaya, 24th.
Grace Walton, 23rd.
Shelby Neal, 22nd.
Elisa Fuliano, 21st.
Wow.
Yeah, I have Brooke in 26th.
I know that's probably going
to create some fuss and muss,
but there's always bigger
names down the list,
and you have to pick somebody.
She had an injury at the
beginning of the year.
I don't know what toll
that's taken on her training.
She looked good at semis,
but the games is a different story.
So, yeah.
Yeah.
And Emma McQuaid has not
been able to train much this year.
So as much as I like her and
I think she's typically a teens athlete,
like in that teen area,
I just think she may fall
off a little bit.
And when I looked at the Australians,
they're all here and below.
I just don't think the field
was that tough in Australia this year.
So I just don't know enough about them.
Yeah, I can see that.
Someone commented about me
having Claudia Gluck too low.
You guys, I mean,
you guys only ever a couple
of places higher than me.
I mean, Scott,
you had her 30th and Carolyn
has her 27th.
I had her 32nd.
Like you're almost,
that's almost like the same spot.
Yeah.
Cause you really have to
look at everything in tears.
Yeah.
like I had the hardest time
23rd up and that's why I
went grace walton first
because I don't know how
tough that field was in
australia so yeah danny is
is a tough one for me with
the running to start the
weekend this is where I
like I almost want to redo
this when we know the know
the event like know all the events
In my head when I was doing this,
I was like,
this could be a tough start for her,
but I got to think there's
going to be something heavy
in there or something that
she's going to excel at to
kind of make the start of
the weekend somewhat balanced.
But yeah,
she was one of the tougher ones for me.
And depending on the sprint event,
like she's more of a sprinter.
Um,
and if you add a heavy implement there
while you're sprinting or a sled and,
and something,
she could do well there and
take a hit maybe on the mile,
but she's an explosive
athlete and she's an
athlete at the end of the day.
Um,
probably one of the better pure
athletes in the field.
So, um, she is very hard cause you know,
in certain events she'll, she'll struggle,
but she also always has
wheelhouse events.
So somewhere in the middle, um,
Is normally a safe bet.
A hundred points is a lot.
She has the capability of
getting a hundred points a
couple of times.
Agreed.
Right.
And that's when I get into
this tier and you're going to see, like,
I don't have her that much
higher than you guys,
but when you can get a hundred points,
like that makes a huge deal
on this leaderboard.
And I looked at it as,
I don't think Shelby Neal
and Elisa Fuliano have the home run.
Fuliano was a sprinter.
What did you say, Fuliano?
She was a 100-meter sprinter.
Yeah.
She's a hundred meters sprinter.
She got second.
Fuliano got second on a
handstand walk event last, last year.
And she's a 100 meter
sprinter as a background.
So I wouldn't put it past
her that she can get a top
three on an event.
If it was a pure gymnastics thing,
she's gray on her hands.
I know she takes like,
she took second in the handstand event.
Like she's good on her hands.
I just, yeah,
that was my thought process anyway,
through this whole thing.
I'm shocked you have Brooke Solo.
I just... Her body got held
up year after year.
JR changed my mind a little
bit on her because she has
been training with Hopper
and I saw a few things and I don't know.
Just how highly he spoke.
I think she's been getting
better and better since the open.
I think she looked
surprisingly good at semis,
and I think she's only
going to improve whatever
her labrum that she was
protecting up through the open.
I think she's just improving.
But any time you can get
close to 100 points at the games,
it's so huge because you're
not middling any of those
top girls very often.
So any time you can get 80-plus points –
you're almost getting close
to the top 20 if you can
get one or two of those.
And some of these athletes like Spiegel,
probably only Spiegel
really in this list that
has many home runs like that.
I mean, Brooke could get a top five,
but I don't know what Scott
was thinking there.
It is what it is.
And there's things like,
Every time I say this,
it gets me in trouble in some ways.
When you're scheduling these
people and the stories they
tell you back as to why
they may not be able to come on,
it affects the way I think
about how they're going to
perform in the upcoming event, right?
And so with some of these athletes,
that's happened.
Now, Brooke Wells, everybody's saying,
have you seen the Hopper video?
I don't trust those videos anymore.
Those videos are there to
make sure that everybody looks good.
Of course.
Now,
if Carolyn has inside information and
knows times and this kind of stuff,
that's more information than I have.
I don't have that information,
but I just know that
they're finishing very
similar basically every workout.
Yeah.
And, I mean,
that could be a good thing or a bad thing,
depending on where Hopper's at.
Because, I mean,
we put a lot of faith into
him last year and saw what happened.
But I think he is bound to
have a better season,
much better season this year,
training with, you know, JR.
Tune in next week to hear
where Carolyn puts Hopper.
Yeah.
And John Young trying to rub
salt in the wound and restart a rivalry.
With next thing you know,
he's going to say Saxon can
win the games.
You'll have to tune in next week, John,
to find out where I have
snacks and pan check.
So, yeah.
So let's move on to the top 20.
And there,
I'm going to go first this time.
We'll go back the other way.
I have Caroline Stanley in 20th,
Danny Spiegel in 19th.
Only a couple places higher
than you guys ever.
Bethany Flores,
because every time I count her out,
she somehow finishes.
She never gets cut,
and she always makes it to
the next round.
I agree.
She just does.
Amy Kringle, 17th.
Chloe, Govind, David, 16th.
Hattie Canio, 15th.
Karen Freyova, 14th.
Paige Samenza, 13th.
Emily Rolfe, 12th.
Haley Adams, 11th.
Nice.
I'll go, I guess.
I have Paige Samenza in 20th,
Jacqueline Dahlstrom in 19th.
Grace Walton as my highest
finishing rookie, I believe, in 18th.
Maddie Sturt in 17th.
Shelby Neal,
very impressed with her at the
semifinals.
I think she's on an upward trajectory.
Emma McQuaid,
I think that's a lot of times
where she falls.
Same with Emily Rolfe.
I think Abigail is going to
have a big bounce back year
as her sophomore year in 13th.
Freyova in 12th and Emma Tall in 11th.
Nice.
I feel like we're close on these ones,
Scott.
I have 20th, Shelby Neal, Bethany Flores,
Madeline Sturt, Emma McQuaid,
Grace Walton, Abigail Domet,
Paige Semenza, Karen Freyova, Emily Rolfe,
Brooke Wells.
So you have Brooke a little
higher than me.
A little bit higher.
Yeah.
We haven't,
we haven't seen Brooke on
Carolyn's have we?
Scott has athlete decline
interview invitation bias when ranking.
Yes, I do.
And it's really their reason,
not that they decline.
It's the reason that they
give me and Andrew Hiller
would like me to drop their names,
but if I ever want to get them on again,
I'm not your names.
You know, Andrew,
my heart wanted to put
Chloe higher and I had her
as high as I think like
17th or something.
And the last minute switch
of her industrial and a few others.
But I do like that one.
And someone said,
I'm a tall at 11 is crazy.
I had her inside the top 10
and also switched her last minute.
You have her 11th.
Like, yeah, you're, you're right there.
Yeah.
I mean,
I think she benefited a lot last
year from how much upper
body pulling there was at the games.
And there was a whole like a shit ton.
And like Pat had the best
games that he could have had.
He had some events that were
given to him with the upper body pulls.
And that's his strength.
And he just ripped his hands,
which sucked because that's
one of his best things.
Like he should have done
better on the rope climb.
And Emma Tall, I would say,
is number one or number two,
maybe behind Gazan right
now in some of the upper body pulling.
So I don't know if she
finished 11th last year
because of how much pulling there was.
I still think she is
extremely solid coming out
of Europe and will be right
where close to where she was last year.
So whether she gets into the
top 10 or right outside,
I don't see her being too far away.
She's very impressive.
I think it's a great spot for her.
Ken Walter says,
because of Hiller's video dome,
it will be higher than 12th
if we're going by media stuff.
Then Sarah Cooper,
I think you're all high in
Ralph based on the events released.
This is my, this is not,
mine is not based on the events released.
She has improved every year.
She's made it to the games last year.
She took 13th.
So this year she takes 12th.
Yeah.
That's all.
And she's always been around like 15th,
14th, 13th.
She just keeps improving one
spot every year.
Lynn, Scott,
the fact you have Amy Kringle
above Spiegel, Shelby, Brooke,
we need revision six of the list.
I think what Amy did in
Europe against that stack field, uh,
deserve some notice.
And so again, 23 through like 12 for me,
11 maybe is all like one group of stuff.
And just trying to figure out who you put,
where I, I, and I said,
I do not feel confident in
any of these in here.
Uh,
John Young says, I have Emmett's all 11th.
Yeah.
Puts the men's in the top 10 just for me.
I couldn't do it.
As much as I love Paige.
Yeah.
I had to have her making the cut, though.
I love Paige.
Yeah, I have her 13th.
I think she's going to do really good.
I think she has a different
mindset this year than she
has in years past.
And she's healthy, which is huge.
So I have her making a big jump.
Yeah, I have her 14.
Thank you, Jonathan Ortega.
Amy is more well-rounded
than Danny in my mind.
And you couldn't say that a year ago.
Well-rounded, yes.
I think our issue with Danny
is she has the capability
of getting two 100-point workouts.
Amy's well-rounded,
so if you don't have that
ability to get 100 points.
I think Amy is going to be
competition in the run-swim.
yeah the mile run like those
things and she has a
potential to hit some out
of the park there yeah so
uh anything else here no
I'm surprised how similar
this group of groupings is
for us you had me thinking
we were way off
I do have Hattie higher than you guys, too,
by like a lot.
I think she's more
well-rounded than people
give her credit for.
And she was winning the West
with one event to go.
I can see her up there.
I have Abby.
I have Doma at 15th.
And I could see her
somewhere around there.
I had her like 24 hours ago.
Yeah, I can see her up there.
She's well-rounded.
I just think a
well-roundedness at the
games is not where she was at the semis.
Like over there at semis, if she's getting,
let's say, a top five there,
it might just be like a top 20 to 25.
And to be honest,
it just doesn't get that many points.
And I just think being a rookie,
it's hard to get inside that top 20.
Very few do it in their first year.
So I had her outside of the cut.
Can she make the cut?
Absolutely.
I just think there's
something to be said about
a rookie year and just
experiencing a whole field
of 40 athletes where
everyone's good and the
volume's higher and stuff like that.
A lot of these rookies have
never had competitions like that.
So I just think that's why I
put her further up.
Vi asks,
is Amy a better runner than Emily?
I don't know because I don't
know if I've ever seen them
compete against each other
in a run of it.
But that is their strong
suit for both of them.
They both did the, it's not running,
but they both did the Dubai Tower, right?
Emily was there?
Yes.
And Amy won that.
So take that for what it's worth.
And, you know,
John has to say unequivocally no.
That would be my first
instinct is that Emily's
the better runner.
Yeah.
But Amy's really, a really,
really good runner.
That is her strength.
Um, so,
but then you throw T is a really
good runner too.
So I don't know where they
fall like Haley.
Right.
Exactly.
Yeah.
It's all going to be crazy there.
Uh, John says,
I know like I want it to Jamie.
He ain't faster than Lazar.
Right.
I don't.
Yeah.
I'm not saying that's a running event.
Um,
It is interesting to look at
it in comparison to Chad, though.
All right.
So here we go.
Top 10.
You want me to go?
Yeah, you can go.
Okay.
I have Emma Tall, Danielle Brandon,
Haley Adams, Ariel Lowen, Alexis Raptus,
Emma Lawson, Alex Kazan, Gabby McGowan,
Laura Horvath, Tia Toomey.
Carolyn.
Brooke Wells, Alex Gazan, Ariel Lowen,
Haley Adams, Danielle Brandon,
Alexis Raptus, Emma Lawson, Gabby Magala,
Laura Horvath, and Tia Claire Toomey.
I have Danielle Brandon, 10th, Abby Domet,
9th, Emma Tall, 8th, Gabby Magala, 7th,
Emma Lawson, Ariel Lowen, Alex Gazan,
Alexis Raptus, Tia Claire Toomey,
and Laura Horvath.
I am shocked you moved
Lawson down to sixth.
If you would have saw the
first draft of this,
I would have been slaughtered on here.
I had Haley higher at first as well,
like closer towards the podium.
So here's why Emma dropped for me, right?
I have had Emma number one all year.
Same.
Until the last spin poll,
I dropped her because of
the mental health issues,
and she dropped down.
After listening to Alexis
Raptus with Siobhan and with Dave,
I feel like her mindset
this year is different,
and I've wanted to move her up.
So then when that happened...
I moved Raptors up a lot,
and then I actually dropped
her a little bit.
So we settled here,
and I have said all along
that I don't think Tia's
going to win the games,
and I'm sticking to my guns,
and I may die on this hill,
but I have been consistent
all year round.
And Laura Horvath is coming
in with an attitude, and I love it.
I just hope she comes in
with a couple of handstand pushups.
Yeah.
And Daniel Brandon,
like I told you earlier
with her media silence,
I really thought about moving her way up,
but there are so many good
people after the top two,
like where the hell do you put her?
I, yeah, I don't know.
So Karen has her pretty high.
I think there's some good
events for her so far right now.
She's a great runner.
She's a good swimmer.
Um,
some of these events that have been
called out, like as long as she's healthy,
like lower back wise,
I know she's had issues in the past.
If there's a heavy deadlift
or something like that,
she could struggle there,
but I think she's a gamer.
Um,
I think she'll be in the best shape at
the comp.
Um,
I've been very impressed with Alexis
wrap this all year long.
If she's healthy with her colitis, um,
she's going to be vying for
a podium spot.
I think Gabby training with
Laura this year has been, you know,
nothing but positive and
she's just getting better and better.
Um, Haley being back in the field is,
you know,
like she's always within the top seven,
closer even to top three.
So I had Haley above Danielle at first,
um,
kept going back and forth,
ultimately landed her there.
But yeah,
Haley's biggest weakness
obviously is strength,
but she's really good on the machines.
She's a great runner, great, you know,
gymnast, handstand walker, everything.
So she'll, she'll be in the mix this year.
I was sad to put Ariel and
Gazan lower than probably a
lot of people.
But again, I just,
with the amount of running
I've seen so far,
I don't think Gazan is as
strong of a runner as some
of the girls above her.
I know Dave likes to program
a lot of running events.
There's always like four,
five events out of the 12 to 15,
let's call it 14 of the
events that have substantial running.
Although she's, you know,
obviously getting better there.
Ariel is so well-rounded,
but I just think there's
some other girls in the
field that could be a
little bit stronger in certain areas,
but Ariel could finish higher again.
She's always a sleeper pick.
Like,
Always great.
And then Brooke has been
looking good on social media.
What does that mean?
I have no idea.
I flipped her and Emma tall last minute.
Yeah.
I mean, yeah,
I think you and I have Brooke
and Emma tall swapped.
Like we're both right there.
A dryer dagger says that I
must be on some good stuff.
Apparently I get accused of that a lot.
Jamie gives me beyond crack too.
So
And then Vice says, good for you, Scott.
Lynn, Scott, oh, man.
Gabby, seventh.
You sound like Tyler right now.
I actually had Gabby higher
at one point in this list.
It just, gosh, it's hard.
Lawson sounded tired,
talked about her mental struggles.
I thought so, too.
Lawson's going to smash it.
The only reason I have her
off the podium is because Tia's back,
laura's there and I think
gabby just training
alongside laura leading up
to the games like that's it
like lawson could could
podium easily uh I think
she's mentally strong I
think it could be just
taking a little bit of
pressure off of her talking
about the mental stuff but
she's so well grounded
she's she's a great athlete
she's going to be right
there for the podium and
could honestly win as well
too if anything happens with
Something.
Yeah.
Ken Walter says Tia's never
coming back on the show, Scott.
Tia's never been on the show
and she never gives me an interview.
So I don't,
I feel no allegiance to pick her first.
John Young picks it.
Carolyn, Jamie, Scott.
Not Sean.
Sean hates me.
Tia can't be beat.
Ha said with love,
Tyler will take it as a compliment.
Kenneth says,
I don't know who needs to hear this,
but Ariel is winning the games.
She's bringing the fiddle
back to United States.
Oh, glory.
We waving in the top spot on the,
of the podium this year.
Now that guy's on some stuff.
That's a big ask, but you know, the thing,
the order of, of these girls,
like these athletes, this top 10 is,
is so strong.
And, and,
it's really gonna depend
what the events are and
what the order will be because
besides maybe the top couple,
it can go either way.
They all have wheelhouse workouts.
They can all win workouts.
It's gonna be really
exciting to watch these athletes.
I'd be surprised to see
someone outside of this list podium,
but yeah, they're all great.
And I expect a big battle
between this group in a couple of weeks.
John Young says,
y'all trying to temper
expectations on Emma Lawson
for her mental health.
Correct.
Yes, that's it.
Lynn agrees with Carolyn about Kazan.
With Dave programming,
I'm seeing a lot of long,
grindy workouts.
I haven't seen her excel in those.
And again,
last year had a lot of upper
body pulling.
Yep.
And that was a fifth place
for her last year or fourth?
I don't remember, fifth or fourth.
I don't know.
Like I don't see them having
a max snatch after having
it at semifinals,
but her raw strength is as
strong as anyone as we've seen, you know,
her deadlift strength and
her pressing strength.
Yeah, she can finish higher too.
I have no idea.
John Young says, Tia Laura Lawson,
Gazan Gabby wrapped his bucket.
that's more in order with
mine john but whatever you
can say carolyn's is better
um wow so many comments I
know I can't even keep up
at this point I you know
what we'll put it all in
heat one app and once we
know the events and we'll see who's the
Yeah, and hopefully I can get, yeah,
this one I can at least do
at the beginning of the
weekend and not have to worry about it.
It's the shot caller that I
always have trouble getting my picks in.
Right.
Man.
I beat John Young last year
at the games at the shot caller.
Just throwing it out there.
I think so.
Or maybe I was too.
I thought I did.
Random question.
Have we seen Magala and
Laura swim at the games ever,
not paddling which years?
Just a swim?
That's a good question.
Was there... Well,
they did the flipper swim into the kayak.
Yeah.
I want to say,
wasn't Laura at... What was
Laura's first year?
2018.
2018.
Wasn't there regular swim that year?
Or was that the paddle?
Was that the... Yeah, I don't know.
I'd have to go look.
That sounds like a shirt.
Better double check if
you're going to throw
accusations like that, girl.
I was close to you.
That's all I know.
Yeah.
2018 Madison triples.
Which was the run.
Yeah.
Try plus.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I was there.
I like can picture going out there.
I don't know.
So what I'll do is I'll post
all these graphics out onto
Instagram so you can check
them out slowly and then bash us.
Yes.
That's just all you want in
the comments or on
Instagram as we put those out there.
What I love is every time I
put them out there,
it's the coaches that come hard.
Coaches come so hard.
So they're.
All right.
What do I do to finish this thing up?
I just feel like I'm friends
with some of them,
so it's hard to place them.
It's hard.
I want Hattie to finish top 10.
Yeah, she's in your camp.
I know.
Yeah.
All right, well, I'll pull this down.
I had one question left,
but we're past the 90 minutes.
We'll bring it up next week.
It's a great question that
was brought up on another
show or by someone.
I think Hiller said it.
Andrew Hiller talked about it.
And when he was doing his
social media top 20 or 30,
whatever it was.
Mark Moss is in the chat.
When you end in that,
July uplift challenge.
Did you do, you did it right.
We did the real of you doing it.
I sent him my score.
It was supposed to be,
it was supposed to end on the 19th,
but he said they were extending it.
Let's go end it.
I'm bringing Catan.
If anyone's interested,
I don't want to beat you too bad, John.
I love board games.
I love board games too.
I won't be there this year.
I will be training.
Tristan told me that was not
a good idea for me to go.
Yeah, well, with that,
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