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This raw and unfiltered episode of the Silvercore Podcast features a deeply personal conversation with Jody Mitic, a decorated Canadian Armed Forces sniper, author, and veterans' advocate. Jody opens up about his struggles with addiction, his battles with flawed veterans' policies, and the challenges of finding purpose after life-altering injuries.
This episode is unlike any other—a mix of powerful insights, hard truths, and moments of vulnerability. While Jody's resilience shines through, the conversation also highlights the ongoing struggles he faces. This is a candid look at how personal and professional challenges intersect, and a reminder of the complexities of healing and advocacy.
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https://www.instagram.com/jodymitic
https://www.legion.ca/advocating-for-veterans/advocating-for-change/veterans-wellbeing-act
https://ncva-cnaac.ca/en/ncva-update/ncvas-action-plan-for-veterans-legislative-reform-2024-25
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Travis Bader: Join today by a decorated
Canadian Armed Forces sniper, a
man who overcame life altering
injuries with incredible resiliency.
And he was a passionate advocate
for veterans from competing in the
amazing race Canada to serving as a
city councilor, inspiring countless
people through his bestselling books,
unflinching and everyday heroes
and founding green army coffee.
He has dedicated his life
to making a difference.
Welcome to the Silvercore podcast.
Jody Middick.
Travis,
Jody Mitic: what a
terrific introduction, sir.
I'm just having a little, a little
tea out of my green army coffee mug.
Thank you for that.
Uh, First I want to say thanks
for having me on the show.
It's an honor.
I've, uh, I've seen some
of your stuff online.
I love your, like, you have a
terrific podcast voice and, uh,
your, your chosen subjects tend
to be things I'm interested in.
And, um, you know, we were talking
on the phone a little bit earlier,
just, uh, just to, so I could warm
up with you and, you know, my life,
despite everything you said, that's.
You know, that's barely the tip of the
iceberg when, you know, like, those
are the things I'm known for it, but
there's a lot of things, you know,
professionally that I was doing in my job
that haven't been fully, uh, unpacked.
Yeah.
And then, uh, you know, as you said,
I became a city counselor and you
want to know, I did that because.
In Ontario, there's no, uh, party
affiliation technically at that level,
even though we all know who we vote for.
And so I thought that might give
me some room from, cause I wasn't
necessarily sure which side of, you
know, I grew up in an NDP house,
um, you know, think conservative,
but lean liberal in a lot of ways.
Um, yeah.
And you know, the politics thing has had
an incredible impact on my life overall.
And, you know, it's, uh, it's one of those
things that Looking back on it, uh, I'm
getting back into politics, no doubt.
But, uh, you know, looking back on the
impact it had on my life on top of all
the other things that, you know, I'm known
for, um, it certainly wasn't as neutral.
As I thought it would be, you know,
even though I tried to stay out of
everybody's way for the most part.
Travis Bader: Yeah.
Jody Mitic: It can't be a
Travis Bader: politics to
stay out of people's way.
Can you?
Jody Mitic: Hell no.
That's like trying to be the
neutral guy in a gunfight.
Yeah.
Hey, no, somebody's going to
shoot you just to, just to
make sure you're not a threat.
Well, you took a step
back from politics, right?
I had to.
Yeah.
Massive.
Yeah.
So I had, I don't know if you, if you
heard of this thing called cocaine.
Uh, I've heard of it.
Yeah.
So unfortunately, uh, you know,
Part of the recovery, you know, I had
dabbled in it a little bit prior to being
wounded, but, uh, you know, I had, I had
a therapist tell me once, you know, you
have an anti addictive personality, you
know, this and that, but, you know, I do
have thrill seeking tendencies, especially
as a younger individual, you know, I'm
48 now, as of January 3rd, and, um, but
anyway, so yeah, the cocaine, uh, became
a real issue, Uh, back in, you know, 2016,
2017, and, you know, as well with that
comes a little bit of, uh, alcohol abuse.
Um, so, I realized that I couldn't
do the job I was elected to do
under, in the condition I was in.
Um, and, you know, my personal
life was far from optimal.
Um, you know, that still
need to be debated today.
Uh, but that aside.
You know, uh, the politics was
such an eye opener, you know,
because the reason I, you know,
ultimately the reason I didn't do it.
was because the new veterans
charter, which was introduced
right before I got wounded.
Um, and you know, even today,
you know, nevermind what we
talked about on the phone,
my, my resistance to this legislation
from day one as a wounded master
corporal laying there in a hospital bed
being told, no, we're not going to give
you some such and such dollar amount.
Per month, because we're going to give
you this lump sum amount at the time,
250 grand, if you do the math to today,
I'm down a million bucks on that deal.
So, so let's back up,
Travis Bader: let's back
Jody Mitic: up a little
Travis Bader: bit.
So, so, um, just so people get a bit
of a flavor for who you are, where you
came from, those who don't know, or
haven't read the book and as well, those
injuries that we kind of glossed over are
absolutely life altering and you have.
Man, the things you've done since
those injuries, a lot of people
haven't done with both of their legs,
but let's, let's back up and, uh,
get a little bit of insight into you.
So, uh, uh, what, what
was life like growing up?
What, uh, got you in, in, uh,
interested in joining the army?
I've got my theories from reading
the book, but, uh, I want to
hear it straight from the story.
Jody Mitic: Yeah.
Um.
I mean, one of my uncles was
in the Royal Canadian Regiment,
my mom's younger brother.
Um, my grandfathers were both veterans.
My, my mom's dad and mom
both died when she was 10.
And then my dad's dad was a,
I think he was a Chetnik with
the Yugoslavia, he's Serbian.
The story is at some point he
got captured by the Germans,
repatriated by the British.
Became a British, uh, translator,
like worked with the British
or however that worked out.
This is the thing, like the, the less
detail there is, the more you want to ask.
Was grandpa, you know, uh, you know,
SSF or something, he's just hiding
it, which is totally believable.
So regardless, lots of.
Military lore.
We had like old machine gun belts
from like the original machine guns
made a cloth in the house as a kid.
Oh yeah.
It was really dope.
So we'd, we'd like strap
them to hockey sticks.
It'd be like, you know, in the basic.
And I can totally see that.
Oh yeah, me and my cousins and my, my,
you know, my siblings that joined in.
Yeah, lots of, lots of blood
spilled in grandma's basement.
Uh, but anyway, so
grandpa was a war veteran.
Um, and then, you know, they moved
to Canada from Germany, you know, uh,
however that worked out a Serb Slav
marrying a German blue eyed German girl,
uh, from the coast, which is grandma.
Grandma's German.
Anyway, so she passed, actually she
passed on the tour where I got wounded.
Uh, but regardless, so in my family
though, there's just always talk
about war, war, war, I guess, you
know, it's always in the background.
And then, uh, at grandma's house, the
black and white reels from World War II
and World War I would always play when
we were there on whatever channel, A& E
back then when I was a little guy, maybe.
Um, and I just always had this
desire to serve and be in the
military and be, you know, Back
then you read the comic book Sgt.
Rock, and then there's movies like
The Longest Day, The, uh, Bridge Too
Far, uh, just You're inundated with it
as a young guy, especially back then,
you know, we had the beta max machine.
So we were always writing
movies and of course, you know,
Arnold Schwarzenegger commando.
Yeah, that's the guy I wanted because,
you know, all these one man shows, right.
Uh, you know, uh, rigs and lethal weapon.
Oh, remind me later to talk about
my theory on the fact that rigs and,
uh, Murtagh are actually bad guys in
the overall scheme of Los Angeles.
Yeah.
But anyway, back to me, um,
uh, you know, even as a little guy I'd
play game, we played soldier, right?
We'd go with the pellet
guns and do target shooting.
Um, yeah.
So eventually, uh, I grew up and at
17, I joined the Lawrence Scots, which
is a reserve infantry unit in Brampton
where we had moved from Winnipeg.
Uh, when I was, we moved
there, we moved from Winnipeg.
To Brampton when I was nine,
but I was born in Kitchener.
Uh, so joined the Lawrence Scots, uh,
in managed to get into the infantry in
the 90 and 94, right in the middle of
what was called force reduction plan.
And it was the post cold war,
just reduction of forces, right.
As quickly as they could chop it.
Just like post World War ii.
Mm.
You know, as quickly as they could cut
it off and get rid of it, the better.
You know, I wasn't really aware
of the politics at the time.
Um, I just wanted to serve my country
because, you know, uh, even movies
like, uh, I know I keep talking
about movies, but you know, is 2025.
Dig, look at this rod.
Yeah.
This is magic.
Totally is great.
So.
What is the one where they invade?
Oh, Red Dawn.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And then you're sitting there
with your cousins, right?
Yeah.
It's like, fuck, well, which one are you?
Which one of what, like, you know, never
mind the Sex and the City girls, like,
you know, which, which guy are you in Red
Dawn with all your cousins and friends?
Mm.
And that's the world we grew up
in, man, and, um, Now I'm 17.
Now I know how to shoot machine guns.
I'm learning how, you know, they
teach me how to use the C7, which
I qualified as marksman first time,
uh, a little hand to hand combat.
And now you're an infant here.
Yeah.
You know, and the first thing I
wanted to do is quit high school and
join the reg force because, uh, one
of the guys on my course had done
that and he went into the regiment.
And then, you know, you get talked
into things by your parents.
And when it was time to go to
college, suddenly there was no money.
Right.
So, uh, and then, you know, it was.
You know, my dad being a union
guy is like, Hey, why don't
you go work in a factory?
Travis Bader: Um, that
didn't appeal to you.
Jody Mitic: It was okay.
Money.
Like, frankly, it was great money at
1918, but I'm like, my goal in my mind
was always, you know, I remember being
younger and them being like, well,
what do you want to do with your life?
I'm like, well, just be in the army.
And they're like, what
are you going to achieve?
And like, I don't know, sergeant, like,
you know, I didn't know the rank structure
for real, but you know, um, you know,
it was always kind of downplayed, you
know, and then, you know, uh, you, you
look at the, in the force reduction
plan, uh, salaries were frozen and stuff.
So basically it's, yeah, do you
want to make a thousand bucks a
week or a 500 bucks every two weeks?
Um, and I worked in the factory for a
couple of years and it was brutal, not
brutal, like heart, like it wasn't hard.
It was great work.
A lot of the attitude there sucked.
Uh, you know, I'm, I'm a young guy.
I was 19 and, uh, you know,
just a lot of the older workers.
I just, man, I was, I was just, I
didn't like the energy, you know, I
Travis Bader: can see that.
I can.
Jody Mitic: And, um, 'cause Well 'cause
they, you get a target from the company.
Hey, we need a thousand because
I, so I put together the,
remember the Chrysler Intrepid?
Yeah.
Yeah.
So I put that together 'cause
it was built in Brampton.
Okay.
And then I graduated to, uh, the Lear seed
plant and they built the seeds for, uh,
we built the seeds for the pickup trucks
and the minivans coming outta Oakville.
Mm.
Got my first scars
actually from that plant.
Not combat . You had an
injury there too, did you?
Oh, just a little nick on the
elbow, but I laughed as my
first stitches of my whole life.
Okay.
You know, I'm like, Oh, from a
little metal piece from the seat.
But, um, yeah, the money was
great, but, uh, I just couldn't
deal with the attitude.
And then, um, I just couldn't get
rid of the, the more I didn't parade
at the unit because of being at this
job, the more I hated the job anyway.
So I just, eventually I flipped.
I did the application and I got accepted
into the first battalion of the Royal
Canadian Regiment, uh, in 97, fall of 97.
And that wasn't exactly
a smooth transition.
Um, you've read the book, right?
Um, so yeah, I fell in with a unsavory
crowd, you know, as I did as a younger
man, uh, when I ran away and stole
my mom's car before I had a license.
But you know, we'll save
that for another time.
Um, who doesn't do that?
Come on.
You know, frankly, uh, most people
are driving by 12 back then, uh, you
know, especially if they have a farm.
So, yeah, you know, I, I still
remember when I was driving, cause
I had a bunch of these kids I hung
out with at high school with me
and a cop, we cut, I cut off a cop.
And he was an older guy and you could
see he looked at this and he just like
rolled his eyes and did that to me.
And I'm like, whoo, cause I
was like six foot tall at 14.
So I always kind of like
could get away with looking a
little bit more like an adult.
Uh, but then they look at my
face and they're just like,
nah, there's no way you're 21.
Um.
But, uh, you know, one thing when
I, so what school was a disaster,
you know, my parents didn't
exactly get along and stuff.
And, uh, regardless, once I joined the
reserves at 17 and, you know, I'm a couple
of years into high school, hating it, uh,
and stuff, uh, you know, I was able to get
my life in order and I was craving that.
So when I got to battalion, um, in
97, it was a whole new start to life
for me because the army, despite my
trouble, transitioning from the reserve
force to the regular force, which
was a transition of its own, just an
attitude and application of justice.
And, uh, just, it's a, it's
the same, but different.
It's kind of like, you know, it must
be this, what it's like going from the,
uh, triple A to NHL or something, you
know, like it's just, it's just, that's.
You know, that's the job now,
this is a professional area.
There's no more of this civilian bullshit.
Travis Bader: You
Jody Mitic: know, we cut our hair, you
know, we shine our boots and, you know,
of course, like you think, of course, but
reserve training, you know, uh, my first
barrack was a mod tent, if you ever used a
military, are you in the army or anything?
By the way, sorry.
Travis Bader: No, no, I wasn't.
That's when I was younger.
So, uh, let's see the extent
of my, uh, Experience.
I
Jody Mitic: didn't want to tell
you anything you already knew.
So it's good for the audience
Travis Bader: too.
Right.
Not everyone knows what a mod tent is.
Jody Mitic: So army tent, just
picture a big canvas tent with a
bunch of like folding cots in there.
That was like the reserve barracks.
Cause it's the reserves.
And then, you know, you get to the reg
force and you know, you're expected
to have an actual barracks room.
And it was just the culture
change there was, was like, Oh,
it's not like my room at home.
I can't.
Leave my bed unmade because you just
can't, uh, and that's just the way it is.
So once I got my feet under me though,
um, cause you meet some of the best
people, uh, in the military from all
walks of life and we're all coming from
the same spot and that's the one thing
I always appreciated about the military.
Well, the infantry more than the
military, um, you know, you're
recognized for your ability to do
the job regardless of anything else.
And the right people will pay the
right kind of attention to you.
If you put out.
The right energy and the right attitude.
And, you know, I did, I, I remember
I had a shitty attitude at one point
because of just the, you know, the way
I was treated when I got the battalion
and the way I treated back, you know,
I'm only half of any situation, right.
Sure.
Um, and it's a tough guy.
Attitude, uh, environment, you know,
you kind of got to be, and so, you know,
I was able to come back from a pretty
significant, um, you know, incident
when I got arrested with a buddy who
had a bunch of drugs on him, uh, and
that was able to be pushed aside.
And I was able to go from that to,
you know, a master sniper within
a decade, which is a pretty big
accomplishment back then it was,
um, certainly I think because I've.
We didn't have, like, uh, if anyone who
knows structure of the CAF, Canadian Armed
Forces, currently the Canadian Special
Operations Regiment is what they call
our Tier 2, but there's a lot of blurry
lines in between all the tiers, right?
And the Airborne had been disbanded
right as I was going Regforce, or just
before I went Regforce, which was my
goal, was to go Airborne Regiment.
Uh, and then, so once that was disbanded,
there was technically no tier two.
And when I had first joined, you know,
I remember JTF was stood up, right.
As I joined the reserves.
So all that to say, to become a
sniper, a reconnaissance pathfinder,
uh, back then, those were the big
ones and you had to have recce to
get sniper or pathfinder, right?
So these were our tier two, so to
speak within the battalions, right?
Cause there was no.
Um, tier two regiment, the each battalion
had a component of these capabilities
and a lot of things got pushed down
even from, you know, the regiment, the
airborne regiment that just got pushed
down to the battalions, all of them.
Uh, and then the snipe, the wreck,
the recce, and then the snipers, and
then there was combat support company,
uh, which had mortars and pioneers.
And like, so these were the fillings
to that space, you know, and so to be
qualified, any of these was a big deal.
Um, and then every now and then
some guy would vanish and you
heard, he went to the hill.
He's with the unit and you're
like, Oh, what's the unit.
Um, so yeah, you know, I almost got
out, uh, because of some of that.
shenanigans I got into, and then the
snipers became a thing because of the,
you know, the, the extra money was there,
the extra time that used to go to the
airborne went down to the battalion.
So we developed, uh, great sniper
programs in the reg force, Canadian
army reg force, and I just happened
to be coming along at the right time
with, you know, the right people were
paying attention and, uh, because you
had to be reconnaissance qualified.
You had to have good standing within
the regiment or the battalion, at least.
And you know, all that for
a while was questionable.
Like they, you know, uh, cause the
military discipline is serious.
Travis Bader: Well, how did,
how did you, how did that work?
How did you come with
that mark on your record?
And I'm going to.
Chip on your shoulder.
Cause you're like, you're saying
a little bit more oppositional
defiant sort of, uh, mentality.
Jody Mitic: Well, cause yeah, I
had three years in the reserve.
So I was like, okay, I get it.
We're in the army.
I get it.
Right.
Yeah.
And so I'm just redoing training now
when I'm sent back to the regimental
battle school, because, you know,
I, I remember back, it was like,
regardless of what it was, right.
It was something I had to overcome.
Uh, and you did the politics, right.
Cause the politics of the time was that.
This is what it was.
The regiment was mad.
It's the Royal Canadian Regiment,
because our reg, it's reg force
soldiers were being replaced by a lot
of reservists at that time, because they
were ordered to take like 30 percent
reservists, which had never been done.
So their buddies weren't getting
to go over and get the bonus pay
and get all the good goes, right?
So this is the thing, this is the
internal politics to the situation.
Um,
the biggest thing One of the biggest
things that happened is that for me, I
was there to be a professional anyway,
regardless of all the side, side show
stuff, you know, I like sports, but I,
you know, I was never any that good at
ice hockey anyway, so like that's out
the window for politics is, you know,
playing ice hockey gets you the good goes.
But to me, a good go was
more time on the range.
More time learning actual
functional modalities of training
that will make my body more fit.
Like I used to do CrossFit and all that,
like before it was called CrossFit,
we just called it circuit training.
We focused on our, you know, our
spine, our mobility, like, cause
you know, I got, you know, you do
the workout thing, but, uh, sorry,
I feel like I was getting off track.
No, no, it's Where was I going?
Well, you, you, so you went to
Sniper School Oh, so, I focus, yeah.
Well, I focus How did I get
there from such a poor beginning?
Was I just shifted my whole focus?
You know, I almost went samurai with it.
Right?
Like I just felt like the job
is not all that other stuff.
And when I focused on the job, I
got really great results and I'm a
quirky guy, you know, uh, you know,
I'm, I'm being a sniper already.
You're in quirky company.
Um, and so, you know, quirky how,
I don't know.
Like, I just, uh, you know, I look
at things maybe a little differently
sometimes, uh, you know, you know, there's
not a sniper you'll meet that'll think
the same way about anything except,
you know, ballistics or ballistics,
um, just to get into that line of
work, you know, nevermind the first,
like, one of the things I was trying
to get at earlier is the Canadian
regular force infantry is right there.
You're like, we're dealing with
a serious organization, you know?
Um, and so.
You know, now you want to be one of like
one of the baddest motherfuckers in the
regiment, which is, you know, snipers,
master snipers, uh, pathfind, you know,
there's all these other qualifications
within the infantry that help you
work with a group of more and more
professional legs, even if you don't get.
A bigger paycheck.
Um, you might get a few extra days
off, so to speak, because you could,
uh, you know, pick and choose some of
your timings, but you know, you spend
eight months of the year gone when you
don't have to for the same money, right.
In the same promotional opportunities.
Um, because that's, you know,
that's the kind of career I wanted.
I wanted to keep progressing.
Um, And then, you know, also once I
was in the military culture from the
reserves to the regular, I realized
what a smorgasbord of opportunity
Travis Bader: it was.
Jody Mitic: And I still consider it,
uh, personally haven't been through it.
I wish I'd never gotten out.
Yeah.
Travis Bader: Yeah.
I, I hear that, you know, in the
transitioning program from being in
military and, uh, getting out, I think is,
uh, something that could use some work.
It's, uh,
Jody Mitic: it's a challenge.
Certainly.
Um, You know, but they get to, you
know, we, we have to take ownership
of our outcomes, you know, and
one thing that got me through
my troubles back then.
And my recent ones was knowing
that I knew where I wanted to go.
And, you know, in the last
few, you know, not I'm over it
now, but, you know, like five.
2019, yeah, five, six years ago, you
know, I'm, I knew I didn't want to be
this raging coke head, angry, losing
control of my life, but that's where
I was, you know, and I wanted to get
out of that and get, you know, get to
the places that I, that I wanted to be.
Um, so,
Travis Bader: so how can you talk us
through how you were injured, what that.
Uh, what that was like, the support
you received and your mental
process of dealing with that.
How, how you, uh, worked
your way through that.
Jody Mitic: Oof.
Okay.
Well, so I was wounded January 11th, 2007.
So 18 years ago, the other day, uh, at
the time I was a sniper team leader.
Uh, I was one of three master
snipers with the regiment, with
the battalion, sorry, one RCR.
We went out on a.
What we thought was a pretty routine
patrol, uh, And unfortunately,
in the math of the battlefield,
three of my buddies stepped over a
landmine with a mortar bomb strapped
to it, which is technically an IED.
And when I turned to follow, because I
was, uh, in S Patrol, I was the second
in command because my sergeant was with
us for this, even though it was my team.
So anyway.
Uh, I turned to follow and,
uh, I detonated the device, so
immediately lost my right foot.
Somehow survived that for an hour until
they got me to the Roll 3 Hospital.
Um, and by somehow, I mean,
like, my friends did first aid.
Reccy Platoon came and rescued
me, brought more first aid.
But, you know, like, you
know, our government hadn't
sent any helicopters, right?
So there was no helicopter.
And the one helicopter that could
have come to us was American and
had I've been deployed already.
So, you know, there is a lot of, a lot
of hard, you know, you know, I have a
lot of heroes from that night, um, but
ultimately like somehow I lived through
something that in the moment most people
thought I was going to die from, you
know, I just, I kind of joke about it.
I just knew I just had a lot to do.
You know, that I, I, I had a lot, I didn't
want to, a lot of unfinished business.
I felt, Oh yeah, yeah, man.
Uh, I never, like, I didn't lose
consciousness until they, uh, like put
me out for surgery, like about an hour
and probably maybe two hours later.
Um, I almost lost consciousness right
before they plugged an IV into me.
Um, which was at about an, an
hour post in, cause it was just
me and three other guys, right?
Like, uh, it's not like there
was a platoon there or a company
cause we're doing sniper stuff.
Yeah.
They just, you know, they had
to like get me out of there.
So they had to like drive in and have
wheeled ambulance down a plowed road that
they literally plowed themselves with
a combat bulldozer, like in the moment.
Wow.
Um, yeah, like heroic work for like all
for me, you know, I kind of, I remember
when they put me on the stretcher, I
made a joke like, whoa, because there's,
you know, a lot of soldiers, uh, there
for me, you know, I said, Oh, look at
the party and everybody came, you know,
and nobody laughed, nobody laughed.
It's like, shut up, that
Travis Bader: awkward moment.
Nobody knows what to do or say.
Jody Mitic: Yeah.
You know, what do you, I don't know.
That's a long time ago now
though, you know, uh, 18 years.
Well, and then so part of your
question was how do you get
through it, you know, not to, you
know, not to gloss over it, but
getting wounded was part.
Of the job description,
if that makes sense.
I understand.
And I'm not, you know, not that I'm
pro, pro, uh, prolific or what's
it, what do you call it, prophetic?
Where you Yeah.
Prophesize or whatever.
Sure.
Uh, I speak English , um, heat card.
We good?
Yeah.
. But, um, you know, if you're, if they're
gonna get you, they're gonna get you.
Um, it's not like I didn't
give them a lot of chances.
Travis Bader: Did you have that in the
back of your head that you're gonna
get injured prior to it happening?
Jody Mitic: It occurred like it's
I wrote in the book at one point,
actually, I think about I was
standing on top of spur one as we
do, and I was just me at that moment.
There was nobody else up there
for whatever reason is trying to
remember is right before we went
out and did the big long assault.
With the green berets for days and
days, we were gone, but I had this
feeling, just this feeling, and I
didn't want to be weird, you know,
I didn't want to be like, uh, like,
you know, what do you mean a feeling?
I kept it to myself.
Like, like, uh, like you're supposed to.
I just, yeah, it just seemed like it was.
It felt like, you know,
get ready, get ready.
Cause it's coming.
Interesting.
Uh, it was like not almost
a premonition in my opinion.
Travis Bader: I find that interesting.
Yeah.
I always wonder if it's something
that we pick up on, if there's an
energy, if somehow we manifest that.
Our destiny by thinking about it or,
or if it's something that our brain
does after the fact where it kind of
rewires everything and it's like, yeah,
you know, I had an upset stomach and
that was probably my premonition and it
doesn't change whatever the outcome is,
but I've, I always wonder about that.
And if it is the former, if it's something
that we're picking up on that vibe, uh,
are we able to tune into that faster?
Are we able to.
Well,
Jody Mitic: I think it certainly helps
grease the wheels of acceptance, you
know, uh, I knew this was going to happen.
I, you know, you hear that people say
that you say that, um, you know, we
say that to ourselves all the time
and that doesn't change, you know.
Well, the next corner, we, because
of the village we were patrolling
through, might have vaporized
Travis Bader: all
Jody Mitic: of us.
Travis Bader: Sure, totally.
Um, The universe unfolds as it should,
is it saying that I, I say quite often?
I think it's from,
Jody Mitic: I believe so.
Travis Bader: It does, yeah.
Um.
It, and I think it's a much healthier
way for people to look back on things
as well, man, if it wasn't for that
IED, if, if man, everything would be
great, well, maybe it's because of the
IED that it's now put you in a position
to be that advocate for others that,
that you are now, maybe it's because.
Jody Mitic: Yeah,
Travis Bader: it was almost seemed
Jody Mitic: inevitable.
Yeah.
Now that you put it that
way, you know, like, uh,
when, cause when I'm, when I was still
in battalion, after I got back to the
battalion, after I got wounded and I
was trying to tell everyone about the
new veterans charter and what, like how
terrible it is and how much money we
were going to lose as combat soldiers.
Uh, you know, right there, you're
told, well, you can't talk about that.
You know, you're not allowed
to do that, just accept it.
Just shut up.
You know, like, who are you?
You're just a master corporal.
And it's, well, yeah, but who,
who's going to lose out on literally
today's date over a million dollars.
Travis Bader: Yeah.
And if not you, then who?
Jody Mitic: Yeah.
Like, you know, my dad was a union guy.
We might not get along, but what he,
what he told me and, or showed me was
if you advocate, you know, you get
results and, you know, my results.
Thus far, I've been a little suboptimal
with, you know, the stuff we talked
about through the political stuff
and the, you know, but that's.
Just like that's combat, man.
Like the enemy gets to say, um, just
because I have intention or thought I was
going somewhere, you know, people think
that what I hate, what like it, cause
it applies directly to me, this, this
charter thing that I advocate so strongly
against, which is why the political.
Um, stuff is, is, it's to save my
own pension in the biggest way.
Um, but also every other combat individual
who's wounded from ever since they passed
this legislation has been just shorted,
literally millions of dollars per person.
The way, the way these
governments spend money.
And even today I'm being
disputed by veterans affairs.
I'm not getting, uh, like half the money
I'm supposed to because they want a
piece of paper to, because they want to
deduct anything I make off my books or
off my talks or, you know, the coffee
from the money that the, that the,
this charter allows me, and it's just
a total violation of the agreement.
I thought when I raised my hand and took
a oath, I thought this was the deal.
Cause my uncle told me, don't
worry if you get hurt, it's a
decent, it's not a ton of money.
Like it's not even 80 grand
a year, but it's for life.
But
Travis Bader: you'll be looked after.
They'll make sure we
don't leave one behind.
It's
Jody Mitic: money, dude, money in your
pocket, because this is what they do.
They say, no, no, we'll keep that money
and we'll spend it on stuff for you.
It's kind of how they've explained it.
And I'm like.
So it's 18 years in, I've
almost gone homeless.
I can't get any action
out of these people.
And yeah, like I said, I, the homeless
thing was, uh, there was a lot to
that, but regardless, I shouldn't have
the money issues I have right now.
Travis Bader: I just shouldn't.
So they're looking at book sales
and saying that they want to offset
what they're providing you because
you're generating income or I'm
going to put one more question in
there, uh, because I've seen this
one used before, uh, because of us.
, because of the role we played
in your injury, you are now
able to profit off of it.
Has that ever come up?
No.
Jody Mitic: But could you imagine
if, I don't have to imagine that's
something, is that something that's
been said to a service member?
Travis Bader: Uh, it's, it's something
Jody Mitic: I've that I've, I've
heard that is, that is psycho talk.
It is psycho talk.
Listen to that.
Travis Bader: Yeah.
No, that, that's something
I've seen in civil actions.
Uh.
I've, I've personally
seen that afterwards.
They say, well, look at,
look at where you are now.
If not for us, you wouldn't
be in this position.
So, um, all your hard work
you've put in, we, we helped you.
We helped you do that hard work.
Jody Mitic: Boy, that's a, can you imagine
having the balls to put that on paper?
I've seen it.
I, I believe you that's the, that's
the mentalities that, uh, that we
seem to be up against, you know, no
matter how much you talk to these
and they're all bureaucrats who
are of unions or, you know, long
careers behind them, great pensions.
And you know, they'll say, Oh, you don't
have the time in, or you don't like when
he, when I stepped on the high explosives,
the meter started and the meter at the
time was 6, 400 after taxes per month
in my bank account every month for life.
And they were like, no, no, here's two
50 and we're good for anything else.
You need, well, guess what?
They're not, I've worked
for veterans affairs, man.
I was, uh, transparent with
them from the beginning.
Cause the 10 check was working there.
General, the 10
Travis Bader: check,
Jody Mitic: uh, Aaron O'Toole was the
minister of veterans affairs for a bit.
He gave me a
Travis Bader: commendation
Jody Mitic: on behalf of the, my
advocacy, but they've never listened.
Right.
And they don't want to
hear that they're failing.
I am exactly who they're supposed
to look after and they don't.
Well, the money's a big one.
Um, like I said, just for like, let's
say, so I was wounded at 30 and just
the rough math right now, it's one to 1.
2 million that I'm still owed
just by that math, nevermind any
indexing or whatever that might've
happened in the last 18 years.
So.
For me, if you look at my lifespan,
cause I plan to live for at least 200
years, you know, we're looking at, you
know, four or five, 6 million bucks.
I'm not sure, but let's say it's an
average lifespan of 80, whatever.
By the time we're 80, it'll
be like a hundred by then.
So let's say I live to be a hundred.
That's at least another one to 1.
7 ish million.
And that's, but that's just, that's
just money I feel I earned and I'm,
Oh, this thing, it's, they put all
these labels on this stuff, like the
income replacement benefit or the,
uh, diminished earnings capacity.
I earned a combat injury
pension upon injury.
It's literally blood money that you owe
me, you being them, not you, uh, to,
to compensate me for my, what I lost
doing the job you asked me to do, which
at the time, by the way, you know, I
was one of few snipers in theater and,
you know, just to get to that point
was a, was a slog, all that, just like,
regardless of anything in my mind.
If I got wounded, I was supposed to
get paid for the rest of my life money.
I could use to raise kids and have
just a life, you know, and thus far all
successive, uh, liberal and conservative
governments have done is take money from
me and starting with the conservatives
who passed this piece of junk, you know,
Travis Bader: pretty sure
Jody Mitic: Mr.
Polia was there.
Yeah.
It's a real problem because he's
not going to want to address it.
Because he voted for it, you know,
Travis Bader: uh, interesting, you
mentioned something about being swatted.
Is that something we can talk about?
Yes.
Jody Mitic: Perfect.
Yeah, for sure.
So.
There's a thing called
politically exposed.
So if you don't know what it
is, Google it, look it up.
Uh, basically in a nutshell who I am
at the time of this definition being,
uh, figured out, which was mostly by
the American intelligence, uh, system,
a politically exposed individual
somehow has a voice like that is out,
uh, what does a bigger proportion than
it should be in their opinion, right?
Then.
They, you know, went on to label things
like, you know, basically you're a
far alt right, you know, cause I own
guns and, uh, you know, I, if I have
interests and like, if you read it,
it's, you know, anything Jody does,
it's bad a lot of ways and therefore.
Um, you know, you might be involved, I may
have been involved in a lot of like crime,
so to speak, and I can't, I can't counter
government activity of which I wasn't,
uh, yeah, I was told after the SWAT.
So, you know, here's the fun thing
about the SWAT is the cops put
their hands up for me, you know, uh.
I thought, you know, the SWAT team chased
me down the highway here in Ottawa.
It was after I tweeted, Hey
veterans, this is a top of my head.
I have a screenshot of it, but
it was, Hey veterans, let's get
together on Parliament Hill.
And I, I, I put like, it was
the Sunday before the election
Travis Bader: of
Jody Mitic: 2019, that was it.
They weren't going to
put up with any more.
Travis Bader: No, no, let's
get together and take action.
No tweets before that about doing
violence or anything like this.
Jody Mitic: Oh, no, no, nothing.
Well, I had been, here's the thing.
I was being surveilled and I knew
it and it was driving me nuts.
So I was trying to like figure
out where it was coming from.
And you know, you find out, how did
you know you're being surveilled?
Cause you can, you know, you
see it, you feel it, uh, uh, uh,
certain coincidences that happened,
you know, I just saw it anyway.
Maybe I made it all up, Travis.
I mean, I did do a lot
of drugs at the time.
I don't think I made, here's the thing.
It's in the police report.
Is how I know,
Travis Bader: fair enough, but,
but again, you had that feeling
ahead of time and sure enough.
Jody Mitic: Yeah, well,
that's what I mean.
Like, oh, so I was right.
I'm not hypervigilant.
Oh yeah.
I guess not, but you know, yeah.
Cause that's when you're, you know,
that's the tactical, that's my world.
Right.
You know, I can see that's
what I set my adult goal to be.
I would look.
I loved running the, the races, the
amazing race, but ultimately my life's
passion and goal was to be a motherfucker,
like, you know, a Canadian version of
Rambo, so to speak, and I wasn't too
keen on jumping out of planes, but I
figured if I got good enough, they'd
get me there if they needed me there,
but otherwise, Hey, four wheelers, you
know, uh, trucks, you know, the combat's
combat, you get there, how you get there.
Travis Bader: So you
were viewed as a threat.
If there's a hundred percent,
they're surveilling you.
They looked at you as
some sort of a threat.
And if they said
Jody Mitic: that I was capable of
assassinating the PMO because of what
I'm capable of, and then they, I, uh,
I'm not, I keep trying to use bigger
words than I should, but, uh, they
try, they basically gave me shit.
For months and months through friends
and family and just random messages.
Like you don't know the impact of
your voice, which is one of the
things that the politically exposed
have and what it and what it's doing.
And but that's the definition of a
government looking for something.
Anyone who knows me or knew me knew
like, yeah, I had political goals.
I have political goals, especially
after all this bullshit that, you know,
I wasn't trying to compete with that
guy, that guy being our current PM.
I'd met him a few times.
I'd been offered minister of national
defense as long as I kept my mouth shut.
Travis Bader: And then
Jody Mitic: when I didn't and
Andrew Leslie got kicked out and
he was my, you know, the guy I was
supposed to fall in place after I
was still offered a senatorship.
From Aaron O'Toole through the PMO,
just, just, you know, shut up, right.
But nothing for the troops and
nothing for Mike, you know, like,
and there was nothing on pay, you
know, like what's in it for me.
And what's in it for the troops.
So essentially it was, it was
just leave prime minister Trudeau.
Travis Bader: Yeah.
So they recognize you have a voice and
they want to try and control that voice.
Either shut down that voice or
control how that voice talks.
Jody Mitic: Basically.
And the, and the thing that upsets
me the most about that particular
part of like, this is politics.
That's life, right?
I got, I got kicked in the dick.
I got shown my place.
I get it.
I was on a card carrying member
of the current party, right?
All they had to do is talk to me and
I probably would have done things a
little different, but they treated me
like an enemy from day one, just because
of something I didn't even know I had.
Right.
And it was through all this action that
I've realized, you know, what they were
talking about the whole time and has
made me twice as determined to achieve
a goal that will allow me to rewrite
this ridiculous legislation that has.
To this date shorted me millions of
dollars or a million plus dollars
and also been used to diminish me and
keep me in my place and put a foot
on my, on my neck administratively.
Uh, you know, the, cause they control,
you know, I'm, I'm entitled to certain,
uh, medical stuff and they, you know,
they control it to a point where, you
know, like literally don't tweet or you
won't get your veterans affairs therapy.
Paid for it,
Travis Bader: which is crazy.
And you've been, and they deleted
my verified Twitter account.
Sorry to interrupt.
Well, that was kind of where I'm going.
I mean, you've experienced this
throttling essentially in however
you want to interpret that word.
It sounds like from a few different ways.
Um, and you can speak firsthand
about it, but it's not like it
isn't happening to other people.
I mean, didn't we just have Zuckerberg
come out recently and talk about the,
uh, influence that government was
having on, uh, dissenting voices and
how he's now going to have Meta operate
in a different way where they're, uh,
going to allow a bit more free speech.
But that was very American
oriented, uh, So, Canada's got a,
Jody Mitic: uh Well, here's the thing.
Politically, META has a deal with
every sitting government, right?
I remember when the Twitter people
came through City Hall in Ottawa,
when they bought, when they opened
the Canadian Twitter office.
So Whatever agreement the Trudeau
government has with Twitter or Facebook
or whatever, I'm on the blacklist
of politically exposed individuals.
I think what saved my entire platform from
getting taken down, uh, was that Meta did,
if you listen to the interview, uh, they
did kind of push back more than Twitter,
whereas Twitter was a complete Uh,
partner in it and you know, the Twitter
files Canada hasn't happened, right?
So until Trudeau's out of office
and even then if the Liberals
don't get voted out We I don't
even I don't even know perhaps Mr.
Pualia agrees with this type of stuff.
I don't know.
We don't know that yet um You know, I'm
hoping if there's a change in government,
South and North might, you know, I'll
be set free again because I did have
a pretty significant social media
presence without monetizing it or using
it as a, as a way to, you know, feed my
kids because I didn't think I had to.
You're
Travis Bader: mentioning that there's
a, uh, sort of a, a clever way that they
were throttling an account through using.
Oh
Jody Mitic: yeah.
So you know, the, the like sex,
sexy girl bots where it's like zero
followers, zero posts, but it's like
a girl's butt and I would just get
a ton of those like hundreds a day.
Uh, and my followers would
go down and down and down.
But there's this core group of
thousands of people that have
followed me cause I have OG.
I had an OG Twitter account.
From Oh eight, you know, it's
probably one of the first million
people to sign up maybe, you know,
and then same with Instagram.
Cause I was bored, you know,
I'd had my feet blown off back
then I just got an iPhone.
So I was learning how to use it.
And you know, it wasn't something you made
money with until the teens really, uh,
unless you're on YouTube, I guess, but I
wasn't, you know, I was doing other stuff.
And now, you know, I look at
what it is and what it's become
and, you know, shows like yours.
And there was a time when like, I was
one of the podcasts on Canada, I think
like there was, yeah, I looked it up.
So.
There is so few of them.
They're not very good.
If you find it, it's a Jody medic podcast.
Don't hold those ones against me.
I was on a lot of drugs back then, but
the point is we all, you know, we have a
message now and we are in this age where
you and I can do a show like this from
my living room and we can expand our
voices and we can get a larger footprint.
So that our views and how we see the
world can get out there because there's
two versions of what happened, right?
There's what they say and what I say You
know and thus far i've had law fair And
all that used against me and all these
other backdoor tricks and you know in a in
platforms that you know They're personal
there's something you think are yours and
then when you go back and it's gone uh,
like my twitter was you you know, like
whoa, geez, you know, I thought I was a
Travis Bader: So you're using Twitter, you
put out a tweet, you say, Hey, let's get
together, veterans, let's get together,
nothing about violence, nothing before or
after that tweet saying, it's threatening.
It
Jody Mitic: says in,
Travis Bader: yeah,
Jody Mitic: it's sorry.
It says right in the report,
he never said anything.
He never threatened anyone, but, but, but
someone interpret at the prime minister's
office, interpreted everything as threats.
They said I was going to do
a coup if people showed up.
I don't know who, that's the thing.
Nobody's willing to have a
conversation about this, right?
They were just willing to, it
was just redacted information.
You had little bits and parts.
Well, nothing I challenged.
So like, if I talk about, you
know, the whole PMO being involved,
that's just ignored, right.
When, you know, when I was on the
stand with the crown, when they took
my license for my firearms, uh, you
know, I said, well, Well, they said
I was, uh, ultimately the judge said,
regardless of anything, you're a threat
if you, cause you might hold a grudge.
Travis Bader: Okay.
Jody Mitic: I can, that's kind
of a, that's kind of a flex,
but no, but that's the thing.
Like what it, so what I'm like,
I'm a decommissioned weapon
that might go off at any time.
Or am I a hero?
Like he also called me a hero.
It's like, it's one of those
like a bait and switch type.
You know, uh, decisions that they
give, you know, they call you a
good guy and then they call you,
you know, nuts and a threat and
they call you a hero at the end.
Um, I get it.
It is what it is.
If it's, it's all politically motivated.
Even this reduction in my
veteran's affairs pay is through
the liberals, you know, because
I don't shut up about this stuff.
So I'll take his keep take his money.
And they, they know my personal life.
They know what I'm really going through
and they still do this stuff to me.
And, you know, So I'm at
the point where they've.
You know, they've cut off my income.
So I'm trying to challenge and
get a audience up at the top and
get this legislation changed.
You know, luckily there's
an election coming.
I don't think I could run, but I can
certainly try to make it an issue.
You know, yeah, that's what I'm hoping by
getting on the show here with you today.
And I know I'm a, it's been an
interesting chat, but, uh, and
I've been all over the place, but
you've been very patient with me.
Travis Bader: Why don't you tell me where
things are moving forward to where's.
Jody Middick, moving
forward to in the future.
And, uh, and how, how do
you see that happening?
I'm trying to get,
Jody Mitic: so, uh, lots
of things happen, right?
So I'm still in the process of getting
my personal life completely sorted.
Um, you know, when you let
things go, it's amazing how
fast things pile up behind you.
And so as that's being sorted,
though, I'm trying to take steps
forward in advocating for myself.
And my kids and my, and my community and
get back on the positive path, you know,
I, I have this, you know, I do, I know I
have this ability to, to be quite positive
about outcomes because in my opinion.
You know, and just how, you know, how
we're trained and how we look at things
as, you know, as the, the snipers and,
you know, you have to be successful in
whatever mission you're going out on, or,
you know, or you die trying literally,
and, you know, that's, that's special
forces one on one, that's combat one on
one, like the mission is your goal and
your strategy is how you achieve it.
So, you know, my strategy is to, you
know, get my voice back, you know, As
many, uh, people that will listen to the
situation, not, and I have to focus on
myself here because it's about me and
my kids, you know, and like I said, I'm
only 48 and I want to live at least a
hundred more years and I want to be sure
that I'm going to be okay, you know,
and the last thing I want to be is this
pauper, uh, living off a pension or a
payment or whatever they want to call it.
Uh from the government that gets smaller
and smaller as you get older and older
Um, you know, i'm 108 disabled Missing
both feet and you know in the meat
wagon has you know, that's the hardest
hit it took but you know I i'm kind
of like a truck that had a bent frame
once, you know, and you bend it back
but it's never the same my long term
Uh, quality of life, my long term stable
stability of life just isn't guaranteed.
Um, with the new veterans charter
or whatever, they've renamed it.
Uh, and so my ultimate goal is to get
into a position where I can correct this
for myself first and then for others.
Travis Bader: So after the injury,
I'm sure there is a lot of physical
rehabilitation and what was the
psychological rehabilitation?
What did that look like?
Jody Mitic: It's ongoing, uh But first
and foremost, like I like I said earlier
I tried to focus on Treating like the re
so the rehab immediately in toronto at
the recovery center Uh, you know you go
in you do some yeah to me the exercises
weren't that hard But that wasn't the
point you go there you do exercise you
you get the medical care, you know I
treated it like uh, like a course just
another like military Uh, course I'm
like a sampling, you know, when you go
for, for, for job training for a three
month course, then at the time they had
all these, you know, the wounded warrior
charity came up and there was all the
talk about PTSD and OSI being a thing.
And, you know, as the patient, as the, as
the casualty, as the soldier, you know,
it's as much in my interest to recover.
As it is in the militaries.
Now, again, I didn't know at the
beginning that, you know, even so to go
with that, there was this universality
of service thing that the army had
just, or the military had just adopted,
which, you know, even that was, that
punished me as well, financially and
career wise, you know, I didn't get out.
I only got out because the career wasn't
going to progress in a manner that I
thought seemed fair to the situation.
And then especially with their, they
were going to try and stop me from trying
to correct the new veterans charter.
So,
so, you know, regardless of all
that, though, it's still, it's
my life, you know, I can't.
I can't let what happened define, like
as much as it defines me today, it's
not going to define me forever, you
know, and there's so much to do and
you, you know, my mindset was always
to get beyond what's in front of me
now and what are my problems now?
Okay, well then.
That's a challenge to overcome.
You know, it's like every new mission
was, you know, a new challenge.
And it was exciting.
So when you go, when you challenge
your therapy or you challenge your
recovery, you achieve the things they
say you wouldn't, Oh, you know, nobody
goes running on two prosthetic legs and
then you go and run a half marathon.
Oh, you know, and it hurts
really a lot actually.
But, uh, you know, you, you put
these goals in front of you or I did
and you, and then I achieved them.
And, you know, and, you know,
same problem I had in politics.
I was having in the military back
then they were monitoring all our
social media, uh, but mine was
becoming a bit of a problem, right?
And you don't know that, right?
They didn't know.
It's not like anyone said to me,
like, Hey, you got to stop doing it.
Cause I was a little careful
on my social media back then.
But, um, you know.
You're just not getting any favors
within the forces, uh, or I wasn't.
And so to me, it was the next challenge
had to come from outside the military.
If they were, if they were going
to like, you know, if I was gonna
be a master corporal forever,
what's the point, you know?
Um, so, you know, I'm still a young man.
I still had.
I still have lots of ambition, you know,
I just, um, you know, I had to also in
the last, you know, 10 years really had
to accept being wounded too, to like
the full extent I had thought, just.
You know, I talked about the drugs
earlier, you know, and my first
narcotic really that I was addicted
to is the prescription pain stuff
Right not to diminish that I became
an addict to cocaine is actually a
pharmaceutical, but it's from the 1800s.
But anyway um, uh when I was getting blown
up it's not an excuse right like, uh, You
know, despite you know, cocaine's a good
pain management like I my legs never hurt.
Uh, well when I was on Originally,
you know, like that's not an excuse
dude, you know, I had to have these I
have these conversations with myself.
It just, you know, you know,
you're not doing the right thing.
Yes.
You can handle it.
You can get one more bump.
Not going to kill you or it might.
You got little kids.
Uh, you got, you know, you have this,
you know, like if you google my name
and I know it sounds conceited, but
it's true for a long time, like my
name appeared in a lot of different
places on a lot of different platforms.
And so, you know, this book came out
that sold, it was one of the best
selling books of the, of its time,
never got any best seller list because
it was considered, I was considered a
tourist in the literary world, right?
So.
What are you going to leave this as
your legacy like, you know, like Elvis
or something like you found dead on the
toilet and, uh, you know, people think
that your base drivers were like sex,
drugs and like fast cars and stuff as
great as all those things might be in a,
you know, in a moment, you got kids to
raise, you got a country to, You know,
to, to be a part of, you know, like
the, the mind shift because I had gone
so far one way that to bring myself
back to an acceptable mindset, it's
just except you had your legs blown off.
That's it.
I smoke a ton of weed as you in your.
Viewers can probably tell
with this discussion.
Uh, but you know, the most I
take now is Tylenol and aspirin.
Um, you know, I don't take any other pain
meds, uh, not yet, maybe in the future,
but, um, you know, you know, that might,
Travis Bader: 18 years ago now, you were
medically pulled from the fight, right?
Well, yeah, but you're still
fighting your enemies just changed.
Jody Mitic: Indeed.
Yeah.
You know, and, but that's, and that's,
again, when you transition out of the
military, like you said, like you have
to, you know, the world is now your.
Uh, AOR, your area of, or area
of responsibility, you know, my,
like I am, I'm a whole homeowner.
So this is my perimeter.
This is my fortification, you know,
like you have to be happy with that,
you know, yeah, you're not out chasing
bad guys or jumping out of planes or
testing the latest firearms or driving
cars, you know, like breakneck speeds.
Travis Bader: You know, but now your,
your enemy is a little bit more nebulous.
It's not somebody that's right in front
of you that you can see it's a policy.
Jody Mitic: Yeah.
Well, I thought I, this, I found myself
looking for enemies at some time.
Now, again, I have lots of them, but
not, not that kind of enemy, you know?
And, you know, it's.
You know, it's a, it was a mindset thing
that I thought I had under control,
but again, accepting that I had been
wounded and I've been taken out of
the fight, you know, and, and all that
was just a big part of, of getting off
the drugs and getting back, even to
do this show today with you, uh, you
know, I'm happy that I've made this kind
of progress with myself and I'm, I'm,
I'm happy with happier with, uh, time.
What does that mean?
As much as it's as it's finite, it's
ours to own in the moment, so to speak.
One of the things I loved about
sniping was he didn't talk a lot.
If you did, it was to the point.
And you spent all your time just
looking and looking and looking
and trying to find a target, right?
And, but in your mind, you're
allowed an internal dialogue.
And so I kind of lost my train of thought.
Where was I going with that time?
So time becomes different when it's just
you and a buddy, maybe out there and
you're just can't talk for three days.
I had to kind of just sit back here
on my porch and realize like it's
the same situation and I, I, I'm
putting time in for myself right now.
And I know this sounds woo woo and
stuff, but uh, when you get to be a
certain age and I, I, maybe I just
didn't get it when I was younger.
Cause I was, you know, I was,
we were action, uh, Action movie
heroes back then, you know, as
they'd be in a pro football player.
So you gotta have a certain aspect on
things and then, you know, when you
get past it, you're like, ah, maybe I
didn't have to tackle that guy so hard
or I didn't have to break that guy's
leg, you know, Or, you know, maybe I
didn't have to sacrifice my own body.
So much to do, but you just learn
how to be a little, you know, that
veteran mentality sets in, you know,
and just be happy with the time you
have to, to do as, as you please.
Even if you're not doing exactly what
you want, you know, if that makes
sense for me, like this is my internal.
internal voice, uh, just focusing on the
kids being healthy, me being healthy,
uh, you know, getting back to a mental
state where I can be a contributing
member again, you know, maybe get
back into politics, as I've said,
Travis Bader: write
Jody Mitic: another book again, uh, get
the podcast back up, you know, start
generating some, uh, income for myself.
And, uh, Get a life, you know,
basically , basically, you know, uh,
appreciate the time you have to, to
get a, to give a life, give a lot
of guys, get into woodworking, uh,
all that stuff for me, you know, I'm
good at gun fighting, uh, and talking
shit and politics and , you know?
Um, and so I, you know, I might
as well stick to what I'm good at.
I enjoy it.
Um, you know, does it bring
Travis Bader: you happiness?
Jody Mitic: It does.
I think so.
Like, tell me you started a show,
you feel like a better person
because of it and you know, right.
It's the, it's so
Travis Bader: rewarding.
I specifically started this show to try
and bring some positivity into an industry
where I was seeing a lot of negativity.
So from my own, yeah, from my own
selfish standpoint, I thought I can
try and look at a different area or.
This is the area that I know,
is there a way that I can
bring some positivity into it?
I, as much as I can shit talk
and I can probably shit talk
with the best of them out there.
I, it's a very conscious effort
for me to try and be very solution
oriented in my approach or.
Uh, if I'm going to talk about issues
that are difficult, uh, try and find
a way that I can approach it or offer
suggestions that there might be a
layer of positivity because I need to
have those sorts of people around me.
And I'm hoping that through the podcast,
we can help create other people who
have a sense of personal agency and use
that personal agency in a way that's
positive and productive for themselves,
which will bleed off into others.
So that's.
Really the crux of why
I started the podcast.
Jody Mitic: Yeah.
Yeah.
And that's, and what, what
a great way to put it.
It's, it's a way to give back to the
community while learning yourself and
exposing yourself to like higher level
people, you know, I didn't go where I
wanted with my show a few, like, you know,
a long time ago now, and, you know, I want
to do a different one, a different format.
But my goals are the same to, you know,
try and bring voices into the, into
the atmosphere or get my own out there
into places where they, where it isn't.
And because I realized like as a
soldier, as an infant here, as a
combat guy, like that alone puts me
in a small group in this country.
And for us to have a larger voice, you
know, we need our own advocates as well.
You know, most of our advocacy
comes through the people of.
Canada through the, you
know, through the taxpayer.
So, you know, as, as much as we're
the silent profession, you know,
that's changed since I got wounded.
Now it seems if you don't have a GoPro on
as a SF guy, you're not doing it right.
Um, well, but that's the thing.
Like I I'm adaptable.
I, I just, I'm trying to embrace it.
Like I did 10 years ago when
I started, you know, my first
podcast that never quit.
radio show.
Um, and then I had the Jody Middick
podcast and cause I, you know, got
hurt and I was listening to Rogan
and I said, okay, that's interesting.
And what a great way to like spend
time was listening to, you know,
the, the new iPhone with the podcast.
And it's, it's dirt cheap.
You can just record it on your
phone and put it out there.
And somebody will listen to it.
Probably.
Travis Bader: As long as you're
bringing value to others, like,
like we talked about ahead of time,
what do you want to talk about?
It says my goal on every episode
is to bring maximum value to
the audience and to the guest.
How do we achieve that?
Jody Mitic: Yeah, beautiful.
Travis Bader: Jody,
Jody Mitic: is there any closing thoughts?
I want to just say that I appreciate
you reaching out and being so patient
and giving me a chance to try and
talk to you about a lot of this stuff,
cause it is a little convoluted, it's
a little bit inside baseball, but if.
If you can help me try to advocate
for myself and for others, uh,
I, I can't miss that opportunity.
And you know, uh, it's such a
difficult thing to try to get
through that, uh, again, I just
want to thank you for your patience.
Travis Bader: Well, I'm going to have
links to your social media in the,
in the bio so people can see you.
And follow you and see
what you have to say.
A big message on here that I really
wanted to make sure that was put out was,
you know, on the new veterans charter.
Where can people learn more about that?
Jody Mitic: Well, if you Google,
Travis Bader: I
Jody Mitic: hate, you know, right.
Use Google.
I just Googled new
veterans charter Canada.
It's been renamed to the
veterans wellness act, I believe.
Um, but within it, you'll find a lot of
talk about what's best for the veteran,
but, uh, very little to back it up.
Uh, a lot of, uh, uh, excuses why
money can't be given to veterans.
Uh, a lot of money that goes to tons
and tons and tons of studies and study
groups and conventions and events.
Like they spend a lot of money.
On a lot of other stuff,
except giving it to the actual
veterans with this legislation.
And it's not dissimilar to what they
did with regular healthcare and what,
you know, got that guy assassinated.
Right?
They use magic smoke and mirrors and
googly gook talk to confuse the situation.
Make you feel like a
victim of your own service.
Make you feel like you don't have enough,
uh, personal, um, uh, what do you call it?
Sorry, your own personal agency to make
decisions for yourself, blah, blah, blah.
And they give all the money to a bunch
of experts that never solve anything.
And, you know, there's just, it's a,
it's like I said, just myself, I'm
out over a million bucks already,
you know, and that's ridiculous.
That's just cold, hard cash.
Anyone can use to live their life.
And I earned it stepping on high
explosives for the crown of Canada and
our, my own government, governments
of which parties I was a member of.
I was a card carrying member
of the conservatives too.
None of them want to fix this
and they, this is, this is
the message I want to leave.
Nevermind me.
Every injured soldier since the
new veterans charter was put in
in 2006 has been literally robbed.
By their own government that they were
serving when they had their bodies
damaged overseas, even at home, if it's
at home, but like, you know, there's
more guys like me, you know, there's,
and girls, it is an absolute fast.
Of literally money out of our pockets
Travis Bader: jody.
Thanks so much for taking the time to be
on the silver core podcast Appreciate it