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I was born to kill it.
I was made to win.
I am down and willing,
so I will find a way.
It took a minute,
now it didn't happen right away.
When they get hot in the kitchen,
you decide to stay.
That's how a winner's made.
Stick a fork in a hater on
my dinner plate.
What is going on, everybody?
Welcome to the Clydesdale Media Podcast.
My name's Scott, the Clydesdale,
and I'm here with none
other than Chelsea Nicholas.
We've got a lot to talk about.
We've got Kenneth in the chat already.
He's always early.
He's like 20 minutes early.
He's that guy at work that
comes to every meeting and
is sitting in the room
waiting for you as everybody walks in.
He was here way before us.
Love that.
Gotta love those loyal fans
and supporters.
He's the best.
We have Chelsea on because I
want to catch up with her.
We've become friends over
the last couple years.
Got to see her compete in
all different facets.
Last year she did team, individual,
Masters,
The whole nine yards.
She made it to the games.
She's winning the games.
Does a box jump and ruptures her Achilles.
And we've had her on to talk
about that Achilles injury post-games.
What we want to see is where she's at now.
So, Chelsea, last time we talked to you,
you had just,
I think you were still in the boot,
maybe just got it off?
Yeah, I think so.
I remember being in a boot.
You remember being in a boot?
Yeah, when we were talking, yeah.
Yeah,
because I told you what I saw with
Julie Foucher and the
little apparatus for the shoe.
Yeah, to help level out the hips.
Okay, so from that point on,
what in the world?
I am so disorganized today.
So from that point on,
what has rehab looked like?
Okay,
so we're at almost exactly eight
months post-injury, post-op.
And I have to say, like,
it's kind of flown by,
and I also feel like I've
been dealing with this
forever at this point.
But every week,
I'll say over the last eight months,
every week has been a
little bit different and a
little bit better,
kind of just moving in the
right direction slowly but steadily.
I was in the boot for three months.
So there were the three
months where I couldn't
drive because it was my right foot.
And there was not a whole
lot you could be doing in
those three months.
It was just letting it heal,
letting it rest because you
couldn't stretch the Achilles yet.
And then after that,
transitioning out of the
boot because you haven't
moved it in so long,
you're really limited with mobility.
So kind of that first hurdle
was really fighting to get
range of motion back.
And my repair was on the tighter side,
which was intentional because
my surgeon knew that I
wanted to do like athletic
things later and you need
it tighter to build strength.
So I really had to fight for
that range of motion.
It's still not the range of
motion I had pre-injury.
And that's one thing I've
been kind of struggling
with a little bit.
Sorry to interrupt you.
I just wanted to ask you a question.
So you talk to your surgeon
and you say he knows you
want to do something athletically.
Do you tell him that you're
a CrossFitter or do you
just skip over that and
just say you do high level athletics?
Yeah.
So figuring out when and
where to get surgery was kind of a,
like the first stressful
thing I dealt with,
one of the first stressful things,
because it's where can I be
seen quickest?
Where's somewhere that I trust?
And I have Kaiser for health insurance.
So initially I just went to
urgent care as soon as I
got home and the on-call
ortho was going to have me
in the next day to do surgery.
And so I looked him up and
it looked pretty,
uh, like good enough, I guess I,
with Kaiser,
I didn't think I had many options.
Um,
and he ended up calling me the next
morning and he couldn't get
the OR booked and he was
about to be out of town.
So he put in a referral for
a friend that he trusted.
Um, and I guess like at urgent care,
they knew that like I was
competing in a sport at a high level.
Um, so, um, let's see at that point.
So he put in the referral
for me and his buddy ended
up being proliance.
Um, and
So now I'm sitting there
with a ruptured Achilles,
just waiting for a referral
to go through and to get a phone call.
And I mean,
I don't really know when that
phone call is going to come
through and what the next
step is going to be and
what the timeline looks like.
And on the side,
I'm talking to a friend who
knows a PA nearby who works
for Pro Alliance that she
trusts really well.
And she's a CrossFit friend.
So she got me connected with him.
And I started talking to him
and he got me an
appointment for like that
next Monday to see him.
And the surgeon he worked with,
he gave me her name.
And I looked her up and she
was a college track athlete.
So that felt like something
relatable to me.
And that all felt good.
So I went and saw him and we
ended up booking surgery
for that Thursday.
And after I got out of that appointment,
the other pro-alliance
surgeon called me and I
thought about like going
and kind of feeling out both.
But I ended up just sticking
with the track athlete surgeon.
They just felt more proactive to me.
And I liked the pro-alliance route.
And I think that was a good choice for me.
So that was a really long answer,
but it was awesome.
You don't get hurt very often,
and there's a lot of things
you don't think about,
and that was kind of a stressful time,
making all those decisions
when you're injured.
Well, the reason I ask,
and I am at no means at your level,
but every time I go to the
doctor and I say that I do CrossFit,
they look at me like sideways.
Like you do that crazy stuff.
And, you know, I've had chiropractors say,
well, that's,
that's what keeps me in business and,
you know, all that kind of stuff.
And so I just was curious if you were met,
if you even tell them what it is you do,
or do you kind of skate
around it to make sure
you're getting the best care you need?
yeah you kind of feel it out
like you'll mention it and
you you can kind of see
their reactions some I mean
at this point I've seen
like a number of like
urgent care or orthos or
surgeons or pts or whatever
and so you always like
start with the general like
oh I was doing crossfit or
I do press fit and you can tell
Based on their initial
reaction kind of if they
know what it is for one or
if they have any like
feelings about it for two.
And you can kind of go from there,
so I I'd say more often than not,
people have heard of it,
but they don't have a great
idea of what exactly it is um.
And so at that point I'll
like go into a little more detail.
Like it's a little bit of
everything you're, you're sprinting,
you're jumping,
you're lifting heavy barbells.
You're doing, it's a lot of stuff.
And I think from that,
at least for an injury like this,
it gave them an idea of
what I was trying to do later.
But my surgeon specifically,
I think had a pretty good idea and
could understand that I was
competing at the highest
level and kind of where I
was on the spectrum of like
an active person.
And she, she is a track ethic.
She,
I'm assuming she's still fit and all
that kind of stuff and would want to,
would want something
similar if she were hurt.
Right.
Yeah.
And, and she told me,
and I think my like three month post-op,
something like that.
Um,
she told me that I had the
same repair as Aaron Rogers.
So I'm pretty innovative.
Even my,
my PT looking at the scars said it
looked like a pretty scar,
like not as invasive and
aggressive as a lot of the
ones that she sees.
So I know she did a really good job.
So you bring up Aaron Rogers.
And so we're going to,
we're going to dive down that path too.
I remember talking to you online and,
You were in a spot where you
were almost comparing
yourself to Aaron's recovery.
Mm-hmm.
And, and I was saying to you like, yeah,
but that's all he does all day is rehab.
Like you work a full-time job, you know,
and he has, you know, let's be honest,
CrossFit doesn't pay what the NFL pays.
So he has unlimited funds at
his disposal to hire people
to help him through the rehab.
Did you ever compare your,
I know you compared
yourself to some degree.
How long did it take you to get past that?
Yeah, I mean,
it's interesting when you get
injured at the same similar
times to kind of see where
they're at and know where
you're at and compare.
But everything I saw was
like a little clip and he
could look like he was doing really well.
But I also know like when
I'm in a PT session and
warmed up properly and like
everything's perfect,
I probably look pretty normal too.
But just like
getting up after sitting
down for a long time and
everything's cold and tight
and you're kind of limping
around and it's like, man,
how is he doing that?
Um, so I dunno, it,
I had tried to look at it
more as motivation.
Um,
and kind of an interesting thing is
this year in the NFL, there were like,
I want to say more than 20
Achilles ruptures.
Um,
so I'll be really curious to see who
else back next season and who's not.
Um, but yeah,
I have a lot of data points there.
Didn't,
didn't the one guy in the Superbowl,
like just running on the field.
Yes.
I saw the video.
Like he was just excited
about to like run out there
and there it went.
And I guess come to find out,
like he had some like cap or something.
something going on injury
related down there.
So he probably had some
warning signs that
something wasn't healthy.
Um, but yeah, it was wild.
So speaking of that, there he is.
He's getting a chance to
play in the Super Bowl,
what every football player's dream is.
You're at the CrossFit Games.
Were you nursing anything
going in that you can look
back now in retrospect and say,
I pushed through this
because this is my one shot?
Or was it just, it was going to happen?
Yeah, not really.
I mean, when you're...
I would say any athlete
who's competing at that
point in this season,
they probably have
something that they're
dealing with on some level.
And I would say over the
last couple of years, um,
I'd had like some knee
tendonitis on my other leg.
Um, just little things,
nothing was bothering me at the time.
Um,
but I think maybe I had
started compensating and
using my right leg a little bit more, um,
to kind of ease up on the left side.
And again, like at the time I felt awesome,
nothing was bugging me, um,
in my legs or anything like that.
But I think I had just done
that subconsciously.
And so with my right leg
taking a little bit more of the burden,
I think it's, um,
it gave out.
And I have to wonder if
doing that crazy sled push
event about two hours just
prior had anything to do with it as well.
Like,
there's a lot of things to wonder about,
but I think those are a
couple of things that could
have maybe contributed, um,
over the last couple of
years intermittently,
I might have had a little
bit of Achilles pain, but nothing crazy.
And I can't say I did anything about it.
I just avoided the things that hurt it.
Um,
but it wasn't anything that held me
back and it wasn't anything
that felt serious.
Um, so.
I guess I'll just say if you
do have Achilles pain,
make sure you're warming it
up well and stretching and
maybe doing like a calf
strengthening progression
or something like that.
It's funny you say that
because when I first started CrossFit,
I was 450 pounds,
so it was not what I do today.
But I hurt my calf a lot early on.
And my coach would have me
do sled pushes because it
was less explosive.
Oh, yeah.
To stretch it out,
to try to get it to mend.
In recovery, I've done a lot of that.
And it's been great because
it's a good way to...
Um, yeah, like you said, lower impact,
you get a nice calf stretch
and it's like a calf raise,
but without your full body weight.
So it's been really good for me.
But, um,
the difference between that and
what I did at the games was
that was like a really
heavy sled push at the end of a workout.
And it was,
it wasn't so much like the calf,
but like the whole leg was
just completely
like blown up and, um,
and then I hopped in a nice
bath and then an hour later
I'm warming up for the, this other event.
And so I may be like the perfect storm.
I don't know.
So it,
it leads me to this next question
then is you're an aerospace engineer,
like no slouch when it
comes to the intellectual
side of all of this stuff.
How much Monday morning
quarterback did you do?
And was there a point you
had to tell yourself,
you got to stop this and
just move forward?
You mean like post-injury?
Yeah.
Looking back at what may have caused it,
what?
You know, I mean,
it's hard not to like do
that research because I'm
reading all these articles about like
Achilles injuries and of
course some of them are
like what could have
contributed but I mean that
was more just like out of
curiosity because I know
people might ask me and
you're right like you have
no control over what
already happened all you
can control is like how you
handle it moving forward so
I won't say I was ever like
consumed by that or feeling
angry or like blaming the programming or
telling myself I was stupid
to rebound those 24 inch box jumps.
Um, it was just kind of like, okay,
well that's somewhat of an answer.
Um, I guess it's not too surprising.
Um,
now let's just see what we can do to
get through it, you know?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I like,
I overanalyze every workout to
begin with.
Like I said, that's just the person I am.
And if I, if I would get hurt,
like when I hurt my back, it was like,
was it the deadlift?
Was it, was it this, was it that, you know,
like, and then I overanalyze everything.
So.
Yeah.
You know, I do think it makes you smarter.
Um, because I mean,
people can tell you a million times like,
Oh,
do your warmups, do your strengthening,
like do your accessories, all this stuff,
but it doesn't really hit
home until like you have a
serious reason to.
And for me, like, um,
as I've gotten more experienced and older,
kind of those things that
I've been like made a
priority and incorporated
is all because of lessons
I've learned probably the hard way.
Um,
like you learn how to deal
with a cranky shoulder
because you have a cranky
shoulder and you know,
like what you need to do to avoid that.
And I think the same goes
for something like this.
Um, and now in recovery, I mean,
we'll probably get more
into this and why I am not
competing this season, but, um,
like wanting to rebuild properly.
So I don't have future
problems in my Achilles or anywhere else.
Um, so I think, yeah,
learning things the hard way, um,
My last question on this is
you were one of the busiest
athletes during that 23
season because you did
three quarterfinals.
Yeah.
You did two semifinals.
Yeah.
Do you think any of that was
wear and tear on the body?
I mean, I felt good.
I mean –
I don't think anything I did
this season was like too much.
And that's why I got hurt.
I truly don't think that if
there was an overuse thing
that would have been more
for an injury like this,
that would have been more
like over the years I've
done so many like super intense, um,
high impact sports like
gymnastics and track,
like triple jumping and
pole vaulting and stuff like that,
just like years and years
compounded on each other.
So there's that.
The other thing is, yeah, again,
reading all these articles,
like what could have caused it?
A lot of times these days,
workouts are written in a
way where there's no reason
to rebound a standard box jump.
Like there'll be a box jump
over or there'll be a
burpee box jump or
something where it doesn't
make sense to do a full
standard box jump where
you're rebounding to a full
standing position on the box.
It doesn't come up a whole lot these days.
So I haven't done as many of them.
And this workout had, I think,
20 or 30 at a time,
two different spots in the
sprint type workout.
So
it made you want to bring down them.
And I just,
I hadn't done a whole lot of
that leading up to it.
So, um,
maybe I wasn't conditioned in that way.
Cause I don't know that your
calves are really intended
to do that sort of like
repetitive explosive stuff
back to back like that.
Yeah.
It's crazy because, you know,
I was in Minnesota when
Julie did it on the box jump rebounding.
And then there I am at the
games watching you and boom.
It was so eerily similar.
And the crazy thing is that
is the fittest I'd ever
seen Julie Foucher.
And really thought she was
going to have her best ever
games performance.
It's the fittest you've
probably ever been.
Absolutely.
You were winning the games at that moment.
And then just one tendon in
the whole body gave out.
That's crazy to think about.
And the only reason I knew
what it was is because of
athletes like Julie Foucher
and there've been a handful
of others who have done the
exact same thing on the
exact same movement.
So when, when I felt that,
like feeling like you get
whacked and then you look over,
I thought someone hit me.
I looked over, there's no one there.
And it's like,
I know exactly what just happened.
It's crazy.
So what I want to do now is
you did such a good job
kind of documenting month by month,
like through your recovery
on your Instagram.
So I'm going to pull that up
and just kind of show the
progress you've made
because it's significant.
And,
but before we go to that one last
Aaron Rogers question, you know, he was,
he was touting that he was able,
going to be able to play by
the end of the season.
Which is unheard of in football.
Like, I've been an NFL fan for 40 years.
Nobody has ever come back in
the same season to play
after a torn Achilles.
Yeah.
He didn't end up doing it.
He was activated by his team,
but he never took the field.
How realistic do you think that was?
I...
Because he made those claims
pretty early on, yeah?
Yeah.
And the closer it got,
he actually did kind of go
through the steps of being
cleared medically.
Right.
I can't imagine... I mean,
I can't imagine that he
actually would have been able to.
I mean,
it would have been such high risk and...
I mean, I have to believe it was more just,
I don't know,
wanting to give the fans something to,
like, hold on to.
I don't know.
I mean,
he kind of stated he was trying to
redefine the, like,
acceptable recovery time, like,
prove that it can be done.
Um,
but when you make those claims early on
and it's something that hasn't been done,
um, it's a huge unknown for you too.
And like, yeah,
that can be your intention.
But, um,
I think even coming back next
season would be incredible.
Um,
so just kind of like shooting for the
stars and then you're still
going to end up
accomplishing something pretty amazing.
Yeah.
To have a full recovery.
Cause they say,
like it takes almost two
full years to be back to normal.
Yeah,
I was told that you're still pretty
high risk up until like
that year and a half,
almost two year mark.
And then after that point,
if you were to re-injure it,
chances are it wouldn't,
tear in the same spot,
it would be a different
spot kind of thing.
Like you're, it's, it's healed.
It's a whole new tree at that point.
Yeah.
That's kind of the timeline I was given.
Yeah.
Nine to 12 months,
you should be getting back
into those higher intense
sports is what the general protocols say.
But.
Because he injured his in September.
Mm-hmm.
And he was back active on
his roster in December.
Yeah,
that would be like me just getting
out of the boot.
I can't imagine playing a
professional football game.
With 300-pound bodies jumping at you.
Yeah.
Insane.
Yeah.
But enough about Aaron.
We'll go to your Instagram here.
So I'm going to start at three months out.
Okay.
So this is you, I think,
three months post-op?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean,
not a lot of what I was doing was
super exciting,
but I did want to leave
kind of timestamps of where
I was at different spots.
Cause after I ruptured mine,
like you meet all kinds of
people who injured theirs.
And so it kind of documented
like what you might be able to expect,
but the challenges are at
different points in recovery.
So here I was excited that I
could get below parallel in
my lifters because of that
limited ankle mobility I
was still fighting for.
I think this was the first
day that I was like in the
overhead position in a
squat with a barbell instead of a PVC.
I did notice the snatch itself is muscle.
Like you used no legs.
No running or jumping at this point.
I hadn't done any sort of like hop even.
Just trying to do,
I guess we would call this
active range of motion type stuff.
And I noticed you're,
you're in your lifters for a lot of this.
Yeah.
That it raises your heel a little bit.
So you don't need quite as
much ankle mobility to hit
those positions.
So when you're doing these movements,
are you in pain at all to
get to those positions?
Yeah.
Um, there's a lot of pain, um,
kind of associated with
anything you're doing that
you haven't done in a while
back at like a three months post-op.
Um, it was kind of like stretching pains,
but up until just recently,
like if I were to do a calf stretch,
I wouldn't feel it in my calf.
The limiter would be like
down in my foot and ankle
and just like from not
being able to use or move
your foot for so long.
So, yeah,
I'm moving carefully and things
are not painless.
Well,
you are quite the testament to the
health or the what sickness, health,
wellness continuum,
because your hip mobility
and all of that really
allowed you to stay in good form,
even though your foot is compromised.
Yeah.
I mean, leading up to this,
I was nowhere near being
able to get in these positions.
Um,
and luckily it's the front foot of my
split jerk.
So that's a huge win.
And I'm excited about that.
If not,
I might've switched foot foot went
forward.
Um, but yeah,
I've always been very lucky
to have a good range of
motion for the most part,
especially in like my hips, knees,
ankles.
Um,
And I think a lot of that's
just from gymnastics
because we're always
stretching as I develop my muscles.
My shoulders do get a little tight,
but ankles and hips I've
always been decent with.
Oops, wrong way.
But always got to love the Power Rangers.
Oh, yeah.
Um, okay.
So here's four months post-op.
You got some weight on the bar.
Yes.
And so at this point, four months,
I'm not doing any footwork.
Um,
so it's either like muscle clean plus a
front squat, um, or just a standard squat,
but there's no jumping yet.
Um,
And I noticed when I started squatting
again,
that I had quite a bit of
knee pain on that right leg.
And I think it was partly because, well,
first,
I hadn't been using it like that
for a while.
Second, when you elevate the heel,
a lot of that stress moves to your knee.
So I backed off pretty
quickly and started just
focusing on lightweight and
tempo and high reps.
to kind of reacclimate other
parts of my body.
So what I noticed is how
much smoother and faster
you're able to move through
the squat from three to four.
Yeah.
That's a one month difference.
So like I said,
every week things kept
moving in the right direction.
What kind of support are you
getting around this time?
Are you part of your gym community?
Um, um,
I do the classes still,
which is something I did
before I got hurt as well.
And anyone who's coaching is
helping me come up with
scaling options if I don't
have something in mind on my own.
And then the gym owner, Cody,
does some programming.
And then Anton,
who's another coach at the gym,
he does some of kind of the
extra compete programming.
And he's been helping me out.
Programming some specific
stuff for me to help ease
me back into everything I
am used to doing.
Love Antone.
Got to meet him at West Semis.
Got to interview him.
He's a good dude.
He is, yeah.
Okay, so that's four months post-op.
Yeah, let's see.
We go to, I think it's two back.
Nope, maybe one back.
Oh, that's pre-injury,
which confused people.
Oh, this one.
Oh, yeah.
Five months.
This was, I think,
the first day I jogged on
the Assault Runner.
I had done some light jogging at PT.
And at this point, she had instructed,
like, light jogging is tolerated,
but no changing directions
real fast or sprinting.
And then we started doing...
like small box jumps like you see here,
just a few inches really.
I'm just making sure you
absorb the landing and kind of, yeah,
when you hop off,
absorb it into that full squat.
And then actually like
coming up out of the squat,
you'll see I go onto my
toes and a little calf raise there.
And it's funny, the first time I tried,
but I didn't even have the
strength to do that.
And I, it was just,
I tried to stand up and I
didn't go anywhere.
And here I'm doing single leg calf raises.
The general rule was no
jumping or anything
explosive until you can do
10 single leg full range of
motion calf raises.
And I was really slow to
rebuild that strength.
And so my PT eventually was like, well,
let's try some light or
some really low little jumps like this.
And so we started doing that
and it really helped things along.
So we talked about the lifters.
You're now out of lifters on this.
How important was shoe
choice during all of this?
And did different shoes,
did you need different
shoes for different things?
Yeah, more important than ever, like.
Before injury,
I was the athlete who did
everything in my Metcons
and I wasn't even picky
about which brand or
anything like they were all fine.
I would like max my Olympic
lifts and then I would squat in them.
I would do everything in the
same pair of shoes, which was awesome.
And now if I'm going to be
doing any sort of running,
I like my hakas or hokas,
I don't know how you'd say it,
but something with more
padding and a little bit of
shape to them to help
I guess, absorb.
If I try and run in Metcons,
it can be a little painful,
a little less supported and
a little more impact and it hurts more.
And again, with lifting,
I never needed that heel raise.
And so if I'm doing any heavy lifting,
I'll throw on my Olympic
lifting shoes just for a
little more structure and a
little more heel lift.
But for the normal CrossFit workouts,
I'm back to just Metcons.
I can do air squats and
light barbell stuff in my normal shoes,
but if it's a lot of running,
I want more padding.
And if it's a lot of heavy lifting,
I want lifters.
Is it the goal to get back
to just wearing Metcons for everything?
I'd like to.
Um,
and I could probably force it with
everything except for the
running right now.
Um,
But it's nice to have that
little extra stability too
when I'm moving some heavier weight.
Okay,
so now we go to... I think the next
one is just when I did my first box trip.
So I didn't do a six-month hand bed.
six and a half months.
That was the first day I tried a box jump.
And you can see that stack
of plates in the background.
I literally started with the
45 and then I added a plate
at a time until it was
about the height of a box.
And then I tried a box jump.
All right.
Box jumps are even just for
average Joe CrossFitter can
be a mental block.
This is the apparatus you
rupture your Achilles on
how much mentally was this day?
Was it more mental or physical?
I would say mental.
So I kind of have a history,
at least when I was younger
of having mental blocks in sports.
Now in CrossFit,
it has always been
something I've been able to overcome.
It hasn't been that way for
all of my past sports.
But I would say in CrossFit...
like lifting really heavy
Olympic lifts sometimes
will get to my head and
I'll have that fear factor
and have to overcome it.
But I mean,
I've been able to over the
years and I've never really
had that fear with a box jump before,
I think because it was just
so similar to things I've
done in the past.
I know a lot of people do.
And so looking at this box
now after being hurt,
I, for the first time,
felt a little bit of that
fear or anxiety about trying a rep,
and am I ready for this?
Can I do it?
What's the worst thing that could happen?
Am I going to make it jump that high?
Am I going to hit my shin on the box?
Am I going to tear an Achilles?
But I think after I did one, I'm like, OK,
that wasn't so bad.
And I wouldn't say that I'm
scared of them.
I would say that I look forward to them.
box jump overs are
programmed today and I'm
excited for the workout.
I definitely still move slower on them.
I'm still rebuilding that
trust and confidence,
but I don't think there's
going to be a fear factor,
but I will say I do not
plan to rebound box jumps
again in the future.
Just not worth the risk.
So I noticed in this clip,
you're stepping down with
the left foot every time.
Yeah.
So necessity thing kind of, yeah.
At this point,
the things that are still
high risk for me are
stepping down from something like this.
And cause you have to absorb in your toe.
Um,
and you can't really control that so
much.
So like if I were to jump off,
jump off of the box or
stepping off the box,
I just need to be more cautious.
Um,
And now sometimes I'll,
I'll carefully step down
and try and alternate legs, um,
a month and a half later.
Um, but I wouldn't like hop off yet.
Um, yeah,
there's only a couple of things
that I am kind of leery about.
That's one that I've been
told is a don't do this yet.
Um, and then of course sprinting, I, um,
I'm not up to sprinting yet,
running a little bit faster,
but not anything like a sprint.
Okay.
So then we go to this.
Yeah.
So that was about seven months.
This is the first time I
built up to a heavy squat
and it felt good.
but a lot of times when I'll
max my back squat,
I'll get to the point where
I'm feeling reps and like
hopping out from under the
bar just to like really
make sure I found my max.
And I didn't want to put
myself in a position where
I had to hop out from under it.
Cause that didn't feel,
it probably would be fine,
but I just didn't feel safe doing it.
So, um,
I stopped pretty conservatively and
I added a pause just to
keep it controlled and less dynamic.
Um,
And now we're on my first
squat cycle to try and rebuild.
And I'm really excited to test it again.
And I don't know how many
weeks the cycle is.
But when we get to the other side of it,
I don't think I'll need to pause.
And I'll have a lot more
heavy squats under my belt by that point.
Well, that's not a light squat.
No.
I mean...
it's,
it's probably equal to like a lot of
competitive athletes, one RN, which is,
it's,
you kind of have to compare to
yourself that like,
it's probably as heavy as I
need to squat to accomplish
what I want to accomplish competitively.
But it's only 75% of what I
could do before.
So like, I want to
keep getting stronger.
Cause I mean, the more you can squat,
the easier other things are
going to be like,
it always helps to have stronger legs.
So.
Yeah.
When I was looking at that
and I read the caption
about like having to, the not wanting to,
to dive out from under it,
you say so perpendicular,
like your chest is up so much,
like you could,
it would pretty much just
roll off your back.
Right.
Yeah, you're right.
I do stay pretty vertical,
and it makes failing reps a lot easier,
and maybe that's why I do it in the past.
I just...
Uh, I know that when I do it,
it's kind of like,
it happens really fast and I don't know.
It just seemed like a high risk thing,
but no,
it would be fine if I just let go.
Um, probably not.
That would happen.
It's just.
I'm sure make no sense to anybody,
but you.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And that, and that's okay.
Like I would have freaked
out over the box jump and
been okay with this.
And you're okay with the box
jump and freaking out about this.
So like, Hey, it's your journey.
Yeah.
I think next time I'll be
less scared of failing and
push it a little farther.
But I also in recovery,
I try and not get too excited.
And I try and keep things
incremental and only let myself like,
PR once a day still, like don't.
Where's that at?
Here it is.
You actually talk about that in this post.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I guess it's for a different,
for this one,
it's because I haven't had a
muscle up PR in so long
that I wanted to do it again soon.
So in this case, I knew it was a PR,
so I stopped.
And that's because,
I want to PR again.
Um, I love it.
I,
I stopped cause I think it was a PR and
I wanted to save some more
PRS for another day.
Yeah.
Is that something you
learned in this journey or
have you always been that way?
I think that's a good rule to have, um,
in general for safety.
Um,
a lot of times.
And, but I mean, it's kind of two sided,
like part of it is like, you know,
there's more in the tank.
So like save some for later.
Um,
and part of it is when you're hitting
those super heavy weights
or like higher spectrum, like movements,
that's when dangerous things can happen.
So, um,
I don't know.
I just feel like if you do too much,
that's a good way to get hurt.
Um,
and that's more why I would stop like
with,
with my Olympic lifts and back squats,
as I rebuild from injury,
like one PR a day,
because I want to rebuild
incrementally and not skip any steps.
Um, and that's so I don't re injure it.
Um,
So my next question is
during this time you had
limited use of your legs.
Did you see improvements in
other aspects of your fitness?
Because you had to focus
more on upper body pulling
and things like that as
opposed to your leg strength.
Yeah,
I do feel like I've gotten stronger
in my gymnastics movements like
muscle ups, pull ups, chest to bar,
toe to bar, stuff like that.
So that's a win.
And then, yeah,
I think this one might be a surprise,
but I think like my
deadlift really hasn't lost anything.
And I think that my form has
actually improved because
I've had to take a step back
and rebuild slowly.
And, um,
we tested it a couple of weeks ago
and I was only 20 pounds
off my all time max.
And for a deadlift,
I feel like that's really close.
Um, and when we do like deadlift cycling,
I keep the bar closer.
I hit better positions.
Um,
and I think that's because you've kind
of had to like start from
scratch and rebuild.
So you're going to like do
it the right way.
Um,
So now I'm trying to find
the post you made about competing.
Oh, that's, um, that one there, this one.
Yeah.
And I mean,
I made the announcement mostly
to hold myself accountable.
Um,
So you say here, my heart wants to compete,
but my brain knows it's too soon.
As an engineer,
I have an innate tendency
to act on logic rather than emotion.
So here we are, taking 2024 off.
Because I knew that, say, by May, June,
July, I might be feeling...
a lot better and excited to,
or antsy to compete,
especially watching everything.
Um,
but I knew that was high risk and not
the best choice for me longterm.
So I made the decision to not, um,
and I think that's a good decision.
It's still like with
quarterfinals coming up, I'm like, man,
I want to do that too.
Um, but yeah,
I know I'm not the best
version of me right now and
it's too soon.
Are you doing any of the
workouts just for funsies?
Yeah, of course.
I, so I did all the open workouts.
I did have to scale the double unders.
Um, funny enough,
that's been a more tricky
one to get back.
I think just cause it's a
constant rebound.
So I did single unders
instead of double unders on that one.
Um,
but I think I'm really close to being
ready for double unders again.
Um,
So yeah,
I did all those and I'm playing
quarterfinals weekend to be
at the gym with everyone,
helping judge and hopping
in for the workouts,
whether I do all of them or
some of them we'll see, but it's my plan.
It's nice to have some data point.
Yeah.
And ever since I've known you,
you've always been very
level about everything.
And I don't know if it's the
engineer in you that,
that makes that happen.
But yeah,
through all ups and downs in your career,
you've always been very level.
And what do you, um,
what do you give whatever to that,
that that's,
that's why you are who you are.
I mean, on some level,
I think it's just kind of
my personality and who I am.
Like I,
kind of always been that way
just live in the middle I'm
never too up or too down um
I just try and like stay in
the middle and in control
and I to some level I don't
really have to try to be
like that um of course
sometimes life throws you
curveballs and it's hard to
not get um too high or too
low um but I always kind of
to calm myself down just relax focus on
things that are in your control.
Um,
and that's what I've been doing and it
seems to be working pretty well, but yeah,
you never know how you're
going to handle something
like this cause it doesn't
come up very much, but, um,
it's been fine.
Like I've handled it pretty well.
Haven't gotten too down.
So that's good.
Yeah.
People tell me that all the
time that just control what
you can control.
It doesn't seem to me very well, but
Yeah.
Yeah.
I don't know what advice I'd
give for that.
I mean, it's definitely a skill,
so it takes practice.
So I'm just being adamant about it.
And I mean, can start with little things,
but we're all only human.
So give yourself grace.
So I know this is,
this is a question for
someone who's not a mid person,
but we're going to try it.
And that is,
Before your injury,
you were as strong as they come in,
in the CrossFit field, right?
With, with the injury, you've had to,
you've improved your gymnastics,
your upper body pulling.
Is there some excitement to
see what the new Chelsea is
going to be at the end of this journey?
yeah I i think I will be a
different athlete in a lot
of ways I'll have different
strengths and weaknesses
absolutely and it's really
exciting to think about
what that might look like
um there's that part of me
that thinks uh well all the
things that kind of set me
apart in the past like um
the strength parts um that
I have to like wonder am I
gonna get back to being
that strong or not and if I don't have it
will nothing set me apart?
So, I mean, there's that bit of doubt,
but I don't know.
I'm not worried about it.
I think whatever happens, happens.
I think fitness journeys are
very personal and competing
is very personal.
And at the end of the day,
I don't think anyone cares
as much as like you care
about your own endeavors.
So I think I'll have,
more to be proud of because I've had,
will have overcome a lot
more and it'll mean a lot
more wherever I do end up.
But honestly,
the way things have been
progressing the last couple
of weeks has me like in a
super motivated place.
And I'm feeling a lot of
promise that I'll be able
to get back there.
So my question to you after that would be,
does it matter if you win
the snatch event by 30
pounds or by 10 pounds?
If you still win it, you still win it,
right?
Right.
Yeah, it absolutely, it doesn't matter.
You're right.
So luckily as a master's athlete,
I did have some excess,
so I don't even need to get
back to where I was.
Last Saturday,
I actually built to a heavy
and I hit 155.
So, and I mean,
probably could have done more,
but I stopped because the
one PR day rule and I
didn't want to get ahead of myself.
And kind of where I'm at
right now with the Olympic
lifts is as I add load,
when I jumped to move my feet,
if it gets heavy enough, my weight,
Good my left foot will do
all the work in my right
foot will kind of just
leave the ground early and
move to the side,
so I won't jump out of it.
So I'm not like the same
weight for my snatch in my
clean and jerk right now
just because it's limited
by what I can jump with off the floor.
Yeah.
So things are coming along nicely.
Yeah.
When I saw that back squat, I was like,
the strength is going to come back.
The muscles know what
they're supposed to do.
They're just waiting for
your tendon to heal.
And if you improve in other areas,
you're going to be a pretty
amazing athlete.
That's a good way to think about it.
And I appreciate that
because I'll try and think
about it that way too.
And I,
I'm also right now I'm on like a
calf strengthening cycle.
Like it's a,
Anton found it.
So we're doing a couple of days a week,
like a progression of
different variations of cat phrases.
And I can tell it's making a difference.
So we'll be back.
Well, man, the time is flying by again.
So I noticed you got your L2.
Are you coaching actively
now or was this just
something to wanted to do?
So after the games,
at some point I got an
email where if you competed at the games,
you can take a CrossFit course.
Like you had a like coupon
to take a CrossFit course.
And I had my L1 from years ago,
it had expired.
So I emailed and I asked if
I could take the L2 and they were like,
yeah, sign up.
So I did it because I had
that opportunity that I
didn't want to go to waste.
And also I,
every now and then at the gym,
like things will be, um,
they'll need like a fill-in
coach here and there.
And I felt like if I had my cert,
then I could pitch in a
little bit more at the gym, um,
and kind of give back to
the community a little bit
who has supported me
through so much over the years.
So, um,
I mean, coaching is a whole nother skill.
Like you could be the best
athlete in the world and
know nothing about coaching.
Like it is a skill,
you have to practice it.
And it is out of my comfort zone,
but taking the L2 was awesome.
It was a great experience
and I built a little
confidence in my coaching
and I've been trying it
here and there as needed.
So highly recommend courses.
I was scheduled to take my
L2 at Mayhem during COVID.
Oh, yeah.
During the time that COVID hit.
Yeah.
So it got canceled and then
it kept getting postponed.
And then they basically said, listen,
we're not postponing anymore.
My L1 was going to run out.
So I just took the online L1
to keep it up to date and
then haven't gone back to do the L2 yet.
Yeah.
When it expires, so in another,
I guess only one or two years probably,
right?
Isn't it good for five years?
Yeah.
Five years.
Yeah.
So the next time, yeah,
I'd highly recommend it in person.
I think they do have remote options for it,
but the in-person
experience was awesome to
have that hands-on practice
and the instructors right there.
It was great.
So I started as a judge and
as a volunteer and you had
to have your L1 to be able
to judge at the big events.
And I coached.
I wanted to give back to my
community because I went
from 400 pounds to 260
pounds or whatever.
And so I got my L1 coached
at the gym I was at and
then became a judge.
And then I had to keep it.
So that was from 2015 till now.
So I'm almost 10 years in.
But I'm not judging anymore.
I'm not coaching anymore.
And it's hard to say like,
is it worth $1,000?
Right.
That's kind of, I have let mine expire.
The L1, I coached a little bit.
I got it because I wanted to learn more.
I was just getting into
CrossFit and then I used it a little bit.
But when it was going to expire,
I wasn't using it anymore.
I wasn't coaching anymore.
I didn't have time to coach
between work and training myself.
So I just let it expire.
I had no reason to pay another $1,000.
Yeah.
This was a really exciting opportunity.
Yeah.
There's part of me that
really wants to do it,
but I'd rather put $1,000
into this company.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
But yeah, I decided a couple years ago,
I tried to judge after I
started this whole thing.
Yeah.
I'm too connected to the athletes now.
I can't.
Oh, absolutely.
I can't judge anymore and be unbiased.
Yeah.
That makes sense.
Yeah.
So my last question to you,
the most important one,
any big ant adventures in
the last few months?
Oh, well,
Emma is in jujitsu now a couple
of days a week on top of her gymnastics.
So it's been really fun to
watch her do that.
I'll go watch her practice
here and there and just
watching her progress and
get confidence and get new belts.
And that's really exciting.
And then Nicholas is turning
two this weekend and he has
become so much fun the last six months,
especially.
I think he said auntie for
the first time at the games,
like while they were on
their way to Wisconsin.
And so now it's my absolute
favorite word in the world
when he says auntie.
But he likes to drive his
little battery powered Jeep
around the backyard and go
cause trouble with me when
he wants to do something he
knows he's not supposed to
he comes and gets me so
that's a lot of fun um I
just saw a video where
someone pimped out one of
those battery-powered jeeps
like new paint job new made
it look like an authentic
jeep it was really cool
yeah his is actually a john
deere but he calls it a
jeep so but we could pimp it up for him
He's finally figuring out steering,
but sometimes he'll get distracted.
So you have to follow him to
make sure he's not going to
run into anything.
Cause if he doesn't understand stopping,
if he hits something either,
he'll get there.
Um,
and then my other nephew in Japan just
turned three and I'm hoping
to visit Japan this year.
Um,
cause I haven't seen him in over a year,
so I'm sure he's changed a lot,
but my brother always sends me videos.
him showing auntie his
muscles so that's fun um
yeah and I'm planning to
tag along my sister's
family vacation in july
we're gonna go to
silverwood theme park um
and so that'll be a fun
auntie adventure too when
I'm not competing I can say
yes to these things because
last year I had to say no thank you
Yeah, yeah.
A little silver lining to the cloud.
Absolutely, yeah.
So we actually have one
question from the chat.
I'm late,
but what area of aerospace does
Chelsea work in?
I'm a structural analysis
engineer at Boeing.
And I do damage tolerance analysis,
which is crack growth analysis.
And it helps define the
maintenance program for airplanes,
not the inspection program.
For a military aircraft,
I'll say not a commercial aircraft.
Okay.
So you're not involved with
the other stuff that's in the news.
No, that's not me.
And I mean, obviously it impacts Boeing.
It doesn't impact my day to
day or the work I do.
But definitely we're all
focused on quality and
speaking up right now.
Yeah.
I keep telling people like
it's still safer than driving a car.
so much so much safer so and
chelsea froze we might have
went to a topic I shouldn't
have gone to um with that
um we'll let chelsea go um
because she has really
frozen um so with that
thank you everybody in the
chat for being here thank
you oh there she is she's back
came back yeah it was like
spinning for a minute yeah
I I always said was I've
been telling everybody it's
still way safer than
driving a car oh yeah and
yeah I have no I everything
that has been happening
lately Boeing's almost like
a buzzword right now um so
if there's anything to do
with Boeing you know
Boeing's gonna be in the
headline even if it's not
like a Boeing thing but anyway
Yeah.
Hey, I get it.
We make mistakes at the
state and it makes the papers too.
So, you know, data breaches,
all that kind of stuff I
get involved in and sucked into, you know,
we do our best.
But with that,
thank you so much for being
here as awesome as always.
And can't wait to continue
to follow your rehab.
Appreciate it.
And do we have,
do we have guarantees that
next season 2025 is Chelsea season?
That's my plan.
Yeah.
And I'll let you know if anything changes,
but that's what I'm,
that's eyes on the prize.
We're going to,
we're going to peak it next season.
Awesome.
Have a great rest of your day.
Thank you to everybody in the chat.
We'll see everybody next
time on Clydesdale media podcast.
Bye guys.