Your Art Is A Spell

Your Art Is A Spell 
Season 1 Episode 5

In this enlightening episode of "Your Art Is A Spell," host Edgar Fabián Frías welcomes multi-dimensional healer and artist Reina Prado, founder of Healing Queen and the Healing Queen School of Sacred Alchemy. Reina shares her journey from college professor to full-time spiritual guide and holistic energy practitioner, discussing how she helps clients reconnect with self-love through love limpias and ancestral healing. The conversation explores Reina's diverse creative expressions—from her poetry and forthcoming books to her performance art, podcast "Rooted In Love," and even her vegan baking business "Good Mexican Girl." Listeners will be inspired by Reina's insights on following creative nudges, trusting intuitive guidance, and integrating ancestral practices into modern healing work.

With Reina Prado of Healing Queen and Good Mexican Girl
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What is Your Art Is A Spell?

Welcome to Your Art Is A Spell, the podcast that ignites inspiring and transformative conversations about art as a magical practice. I'm your host, Edgar Fabián Frías—a multi-passionate artist, witch, therapist, and proud mutant shape-shifter. My art spells have reached audiences through social media, billboards, and skyscrapers and have even been placed on the surface of the moon! Join us as we explore how reclaiming your unique artistic voice and embracing bold creativity can transform your life and the world around you. Subscribe to the podcast and sign up for our newsletter at www.yourartisaspell.com to stay connected!

welcome your art is a spell and it will 
change your life and the world around

you hello everyone and welcome to your art is a 
spell I'm so excited for today's conversation with  

the wonderful multi-dimensional Reina Prado who is 
the founder of Healing Queen and the Healing Queen  

School of Sacred Alchemy as a spiritual guide love 
conscious coach and holistic energy practitioner  

Reina helps heart Seekers and Mystics reconnect 
with love and self-trust through love limpas  

ancestral healing and energy work as we will 
get into in this conversation Reina is a  

multi-talented artist and healer energy worker 
who shows up in a variety of ways from writing  

to Performance and even food we will get into 
all of that in this wonderful conversation so  

without further ado here is my conversation 
with Reina Prado hi so happy to have you on  

your art as a spell Reina it is such a gift to 
be able to connect with you and to share about  

you and all the Divine ways that you show up 
in the world and all the incredible offerings  

you have and also wisdom you share and I just 
am so grateful to welcome you to your art as  

a spell and would love for you to share just a 
little bit of about who you are and how you're  

showing up today oh and God is so beautiful to 
be here with you and I'm so excited to be on  

your podcast um my name is Reina Prado and I'm 
of healing Queen and the healing Queen School  

of sacred Alchemy today how am I showing up 
uh well definitely happier because it's sunny  

and bright out so it is elevated yeah feeling 
that feeling the sunshine coming in absolutely  

absolutely yeah and you know the day 
that we're recording it's a magical  

number day so you can't beat that yeah 
it's definitely the three three three

portal absolutely yeah well I'm so happy 
you're here and you know I'd love for us  

to uh talk a little bit about the incredible 
ways that you show up in the world and what  

you've been working on I know that you've been 
working on a lot of incredible projects and yeah  

I'm excited for you to share a little bit about 
how you've been showing up in the world recently  

wow so a lot that's uh happening at the moment 
is actually I've been working on a book it's a  

book that's been in me for some years uh but 
this year I decided I'm going to focus on it  

and actually it's two books one is a poetry 
manuscript called under my skin and then the  

book project at the moment I'm calling it amate 
which translates to love yourself and it's a book  

of essays and really just kind of exploring 
that self-love Journey that I've gone through  

and how this has also shown up in my practice 
attending to clients who are seeking more of a  

deeper connection with themselves often when I 
share that I do love limpias it's so curious to  

me how people automatically associate the love 
limpia with relationship which is beautiful  

and also when we clear out What's blocking the 
space of the heart that we actually bring in more  

Vitality into our whole energetic system and this 
is something that I've been very fortunate to be  

of service I used to be a college professor for 21 
years and in the midst of transitioning continuing  

on that career path and during my holistic energy 
practice there came a time where I had to make a  

choice and and I didn't go into it out of this 
place of urgency I actually really gave it time  

and space and and doing so it was this whole 
process of just being with that question what  

would it look like what would it feel like just to 
really do this full-time because I had been asking  

wouldn't it be wonderful where the spell comes 
in right wouldn't it be wonderful right and you  

know where it's like yeah it and the universe is 
like let's let's make it happen and wait a second  

that is not what I expected and yet it unfolded in 
the most magical way I was already at a space in  

Pasadena that I was uh renting I was renting the 
practitioner room and it coincided that the other  

private space in that same Studio was open was 
available and when I committed within the first  

first month or two that I was there I had my rent 
paid for the rest of the year wow for the rest of  

the year wow so that was like okay we can do this 
so I was there for a year and a half and then you  

know COVID hit and then yeah everything changed 
for everybody and it was it was really interesting  

because I had to really attend to what do I do how 
do I do it uh and not be so so fixated on I need  

to see you in person and as much as clients 
were ready to only want to see me in person  

it was really like no actually we can really do 
this and that's where I grew a lot I expanded a  

lot and connected with folks in New York uh I'm 
still with them Minka Brooklyn and also folks in  

Massachusetts it was the rainbow Soul Collective 
it's now defunct but I'm still good friends with  

the with the practitioner who established it Grace Harrington Murdoch and and it's been just like  

this ongoing Journey what's so beautiful about the 
work that I get to do is that it is very creative  

because I'm you know creating content for either 
clients or workshops or uh for training programs  

that I do practitioner training programs so I'm 
always in this process of creativity and and I  

think that's been the blessing is that I've um 
I've been able to really step into that space  

that creation is not just something of an output 
it's a conversation that I'm having like either  

with you know an aspect of myself or my guides or 
even my ancestors I'm really hearing how there was  

that moment that you shared when you were still 
teaching that you it was almost like that little  

whisper right or that moment when you were like 
could this be possible could I live a life in a  

different way and I know that that's something 
that a lot of people either think sometimes or  

wonder or it might feel really scary I know it 
was for me when I first took that big leap of  

moving into a life that is centered more around 
your creativity around your practices and so I'm  

like definitely loving you sharing that um you're 
seeing creative practice as a conversation and  

just so thrilled to hear about your books that 
you're working on books now and I'm just like  

imagining that you know there might be people who 
are wondering like how it is that you've gotten  

to this place you know like to be able to feel so 
um clear about your creative practice and uh to be  

able to have these like small inklings of ideas 
like a book coming in and then to start to be  

able to like actualize it and bring it into form 
wow you know I I wouldn't I oh I don't even know  

how to answer that question well I'll answer it 
this way I let go of it needing to be a particular  

way and in so doing it has opened up other 
abilities maybe or other ways of doing what I do  

and so a specific example will be like I am 
a performance artist I am a poet and you know  

when the question would come you know what do 
you do I would often just say I'm an artist  

because I didn't want to say I was a college 
professor because that was just that's that's  

the work I did but it wasn't who I was and 
there was something I read by Don Miguel ruiz  

and speaking of the Toltec cosmology or 
philosophy that we're all artists because  

we're all here to create and to not only to 
create things but we're here to create Beauty  

and part of that creation of beauty is that 
we're here to amplify that vibration of love  

and in creating you know when I did my first chat 
book and then 20 years later published a book of  

reflection prompts that are that were inspired by 
guided experiences that I recorded for my clients  

called spring into love I remember the marketing 
manager at the publishing press was like why did  

it take you 20 years and there was this moment of 
like oh that just really like yeah like hit and I got  

caught up in the timeline and then I and then 
I took a moment I was like well it's not that  

it took me 20 years it's that this work was ready 
to come out now maybe it would have come out even  

before that but I wasn't there yet and so part 
of that you know to answer the question is like  

also acknowledging where are you where are you on 
the journey and sacred practices of of indigenous  

communities particularly here on turtle Island you 
know we have the notion of the medicine wheel so  

where are you stepping into the medicine wheel 
right and sometimes you know if we think about it  

in terms of modern you know modern Joseph Campbell 
talked about it as the hero's journey that's a  

medicine wheel the heroes journey is a medicine 
wheel so where are you on that wheel where do you  

come in right and so it's acknowledging where do 
you come in and so another framework that may can  

be resonant or click with with uh the audience is 
your astrology right your natal chart you come in  

in a particular way on the wheel and so how do you 
make the most of that and then what's so beautiful  

is that we grow and we shift and we change and 
our chart will change right our natal chart is  

still the the Baseline blueprint but then things 
build on that and it spirals right and so that's  

what creativity is is that the moment you get to 
connect whether it's through a craft through an  

idea it's allowing that to just spiral and have 
its like upward movement so to speak its growth  

right but you're still the root you're still the 
foundation I'm really feeling the through line of  

love in so much of what you're sharing and you 
know I know that you work so much with love you  

brought up your love limpias and you brought up 
this chatbook and that you know there's so much  

connected to love and I'm really thinking of the 
deep deep acceptance and honoring of process and  

also of time knowing that it does take time to get 
somewhere sometimes and also that as you're naming  

we come in with certain ways of being or certain 
stories or certain paths that we need to go down  

and sometimes they take us somewhere and it might 
take us a moment to return to something or for  

to formalize or to become something right 
and to hear that I took 20 years like that  

you know even though that was shocking for like 
a marketing person like you know as as you're  

saying for you like it makes sense in terms 
of your path and like where you had to go and  

yeah and curiously you know with you bringing up 
love like I'd love for you to share a little bit  

about love limpias in case someone doesn't know 
what a love limpia is and also just would love  

to hear about your relationship to love since 
it seems like it's a big part of your practice  

the love limpia came out organically it was um it 
was one of those moments again you know in that  

moment of transition of like oh wait what do I 
do what do I offer how do I you know present my  

practice when I was going into it full-time and I 
was in this I think it was like a you know one of  

those free workshops on like you know writing your 
um your book proposal something to that effect and  

I was thinking about Santa Perversa now Santa Perversa is this 
entity that's come through me she's the patron  

saint of everything erotic sexual and love and 
when I wrote the poem to Santa Perversa 1998 there is a  

prayer in the poem and I was like okay cool 
and then people would tell me how they would  

pray to Santa Perversa like they had my chatbook 
pray to Santa Perversa and things are happening  

in their relationships that were amazing I was 
like wow really you pray to something buta that  

is so cool so it was you know the poem itself had 
a life of its own but really you know in hindsight  

I'm like oh wait this is an energy that came 
through me and I named her something but something  

maybe that is her name I don't know but that's how 
it came out and when I started to embody her and  

imagine her like you know the kind of uh the 
the imagery from like you know uh Mexican or  

Latin American Catholicism with you know ornate 
dresses and and the petitions pinned on it um  

the performance that came from that was uh take a 
piece of my heart and what what I remember vividly  

is inviting folks to write their love petition 
and folks not knowing how to articulate that and  

that really stuck with me that when asked what 
is the love that you want individuals sometimes  

have a hard time naming it right and when I 
was reflecting on all of those experiences I  

was like right I do love limpias that's exactly 
what I do and so it became this very organic  

experience of how it emerged how it developed 
and then also understanding that there are those  

in my lineage who also did this work right and 
you know maybe they were curanderx oh  

maybe they were you know something else but there 
was there was this knowing that this is coming  

from a deep practice and so in many ways it was 
this remembering of that I may not have the ABC's  

of how they did it but I'm also knowing I have the 
capacity to do it for this moment in this time in  

this particular way and that is what helped you 
know the cultivation of the love limpia so that  

clearing of the heart space right limpias are these 
energetic clearings and so when we tend to the  

heart we're really tending to this Vitality Center 
of our soul space and we have in the Mexica  

cosmology we understand it to be the crown the 
heart and the liver but also the joints right and  

so when we fortify This Heart space we're actually 
understanding a little bit more about what our  

Soul's expression is wanting to do and you know 
going back to thinking about like the astrology  

in Reading you know the sacred calendar there are 
the signs of that place it between your crown your  

heart and your liver and they telling you this 
is this is your makeup This Is Your vitality  

makeup right like our top three so to speak Sun 
Moon and Rising so when the love limpias emerged  

and and I really stepped into that it just helped 
me trust that even if I quote unquote didn't know  

I was going to be guided and I am guided 
and it's like okay here we go and so each  

session started to evolve where I started to 
notice different themes and what people were  

presenting and so then that became information 
for me to create like a workshop series but I  

think also for me love has always been a part of 
me aside from having serious Venusian placements  

with a Libra sun and a Taurus moon but also 
that at the time that I was born Venus was a  

I was born in the Venus hour and then I was 
born so it's like okay so you know she's with  

me that is a part of me it's part of my makeup 
um but yeah I I I love love and you know for  

me it's it's understanding that beyond the 
intimacy that can be you know with a lover  

with family with friends colleagues that 
when we really tune into that frequency of  

love things start to open up in ways that 
become really magical and even mystical

yeah I'm like really struck with your journey with 
Santa Perversa and you know I'm almost like seeing it  

as this like moment you had in your life where I 
don't know if she came to you if you beckoned her  

like there's like this way that like you almost 
like forged or conjured something right or it came  

to you they came to you right and just thinking 
about that moment and cuz I'm like imagining  

there might be some people who are listening to 
this and might feel stuck or might feel like they  

don't know how to tap into their creativity or 
into their heart space right and just thinking of  

that like bridge that was built right in bringing 
in this part of yourself this aspect of yourself  

or this entity right this being that people are 
praying to that is also answering petitions like  

that to me something that is so interesting and 
exciting that there can be archetypes there can be  

beings there can be Angels right there can be 
saints that can come to us and I'm curious if  

you want to share a little bit about that process 
or what you've learned in working with Santa Perversa  

for you know now it's been a little like over 
a couple decades right or yeah right 98 yeah  

at least 25 years so you know that is um I've 
never thought of Santa Perversa as being the bridge  

but you're right she definitely was the one 
that broke the door open when I get to perform  

that piece I take a piece of my heart it becomes 
something really special and you know the dress  

itself has its own energy and its own quality 
but to answer the question of how to open up to  

that connection I think first and foremost is to 
stop doubting yourself and secondly, it would be

I wouldn't say trust that's a little harder 
but I would say to stop asking permission  

to connect and let me clarify that a bit yes you 
do need to definitely ask permission when you're  

connected with with other beings and like you 
know having that Rapport and cultivating that  

but it's not like you know let me set up my my 
altar whether it's ancestral veneration or to a  

particular guide or whatnot it's all like let me 
set up the altar and now like you know I'm able to  

get on get on call with them yeah it is though 
that when you are getting those nudges and and  

the nudge won't stop I think that's a that's a 
good sign the nudge won't stop yes it's going  

to show up in different ways but it won't stop 
and that's actually a moment to just kind of sit  

with us like hm okay what is this and just even 
ask that question what is this not in a judgment  

but in a curious open way this that is going to 
start opening up this exploration and I think  

also in terms of like the permission aspect 
it's giving yourself permission to be messy  

because we're so fixated that it needs to come 
out quote unquote right or perfect right from  

the get how can it if you've never done it how 
can it if you've never done it you know um you  

have to work at your craft that would be the 
third thing is if you're going to listen to  

the nudge and you're going to follow through be 
consistent at working at your craft and you know  

the fact that maybe for me I've been writing 
that I had not been writing quote unquote  

creatively doesn't mean that I stopped writing 
I was still at my craft it just looked differ  

right yeah and so the you know that experience 
of now understanding that some energy like Santa Perversa  

yeah I mean at that point in time in my life 
I was you know I was trying to figure out well  

what is what does dating look like can we can we change 
this up a little bit please and so yeah I possibly  

did conjure her it's like okay you know I I need 
some help here but um in all seriousness you know  

for me understanding that these are that each one 
of us has a different connection and we're going  

to pick up on things based on the channel That is 
the strongest and so all of us have that capacity  

that we keep denying it negating it mistrusting 
it maybe because at some point in our life we  

were told don't listen to that or we were told to 
doubt that what we were listening to is actually  

truth right and so then it takes some time to kind 
of excavate and remove some of that patterning but  

nevertheless once you get that nudge and once you 
listen I also encourage you ask questions who are  

you are you here for my best good if you're not 
you know bye-bye but we can ask questions right  

that was something I was not aware of before but 
we can ask questions you can check in and you know  

for me receiving the energetic Attunement of the 
13th Octave LaHoChi 5 years ago it opened up this  

whole ability that I didn't know I had within me 
and connecting to Angels or my guides and really  

feeling comfortable like oh yes this is my energy 
let me see what this is let's have a conversation  

let's get to know each other that has been a 
practice this said I've definitely cultivated  

it more but I didn't have someone to say okay well 
this is what you do these are the ABCs of that and  

even if I you know myself from five years ago if I 
would look at myself now I would probably roll my  

eyes be like oh my God are you serious I'm curious 
when you bring that up and like do you feel like  

is that like part of the the way that you were 
like taught to doubt or that you like you know  

weren't open at that time to that ability or the 
connection like I'm curious about that like [ __ ]  

that you witnessed in yourself I definitely 
doubted the ability the connection I didn't  

doubt because I grew up in you know a Christian 
home I mean that's that's like rule one right  

you're gonna pray to a God you got to believe that 
the God's gonna answer right so that was there  

already as as a process like that was already 
something within me but I think opening up

to my guides and my ancestors and also 
understanding what are the best ways to  

sustain that communication were very helpful 
things that I learned from practitioners like  

um from Kaitlyn Graña and of Mother Of Mystics right or even AJA Daashuur The Spirit Guide  

coach and so you know there were Still Moments 
where like baby practitioner so to speak was  

I was still seeking um an understanding and 
so yeah definitely find your guides and your  

teachers and when you're ready they're going to 
show up you're going to see something that says  

hey look here and you're like oh look at this 
all right it does happen it does happen but  

also not to get into this thought process that 
you have to uh pay your due so to speak right  

um because I think again the so the social makeup 
that we grow up that most of us grew up in often  

has this unconscious belief that we have to pay 
our dues in order to deserve to connect and that  

is not the case yeah and yeah and I think that 
goes going back to what you were saying earlier  

of it is important to be in relationship and 
to ask for permission and at the same time to  

not feel this barrier right that we can't enter 
into connection or that we can't open up to these  

abilities and yeah I'm just like really struck 
with how you shared that there was that nudge and  

I you know I'm really very aware of those nudges 
those moments where things come knocking and they  

usually are persistent and they usually show up in 
different ways and also that you received support  

that you went out and you got some support and 
as you named this Attunement really allowed you  

to then be more in in tune or to feel more into 
those subtle energy shifts when you're connecting  

with angels or with guides with ancestors and so 
like really wanting to you know recommend that for  

folks who do get that nudge that there are people 
out there who will help you who will support you  

who will guide you and that that's also something 
for you to be open to and to see if they also show  

up and I'm curious for you like how the folks that 
supported you how they showed up was it also part  

of the nudge or like how did you find the folks 
that supported you with your own Journey oh wow  

well at the time where you could really find 
folks on Instagram and it was you know to you  

know to your benefit AJA was one of the first ones 
that I found that I met and curiously enough at  

the time we were living in the same city so it was 
wonderful but I wasn't like over her house all the time  

no like and I would go attend workshops and then 
again during the pandemic everything went virtual  

so then I was able to really um you know be in 
different circles with her and and just learning  

different like abilities or skills or techniques 
to use to to open up those channels and then um  

with Kaitlyn you know it's we were at the same event 
same popup and we just connected and it was great  

and I think that was like her first time setting 
up at a popup and I ended up being like one of  

the first people who she like read for and I was 
thought I was like wow that is so cool but you  

know it's been this beautiful friendship that's 
like emerged and then other practitioners that  

I learned with through Spirit house Collective 
uh like Saewon Oh of sunsong and now she has her  

program called SEER and I've been with her 
for five years and that's been like amazing  

where we tune into Flower Essences and then just 
receive the insight and the information and so I  

can see like my trajectory of opening up 
this channel yeah that it's allowed me to connect  

with our Crystal allies and our plant allies and 
so I think of the three of them the one I've  

been with most consistently is Saewon because 
we meet every month and we've been doing it for  

five years in her program SEER and it's amazing 
like what comes through and how it comes through  

and the connection and what I receive is also 
understanding that it's not for me to determine  

how it should come through and I say that because 
we can get really quick into censoring and nope  

you know that's not for me to you know 
so again I can ask questions I can you  

know ask for clarification I can continue 
that conversation but you know being in  

those spaces and then even you know at the time 
when they were here in Los Angeles Mostly Angels  

with Julian Sambrano um you know him inviting me 
to read tarot on the Fly oh my gosh I would never  

have thought I could do that and then they're 
like come on come on IG live let's do this it's  

like okay so we were doing it right and so I feel 
like most of my experiences unless includes like  

performance art with my friend Pat Payne who really 
she she's like an older sister to me a dear friend  

but she's really the first person who I saw 
do amazing and they're incredible artist poet  

performance artist visual artist but also had 
this intuitive ability who I had never I never  

met anyone who had that or who was open about that 
I should say and when we met was literally at the  

start of my journey of presenting myself as an 
artist as a poet and I mentioned Pat because I  

feel like I was thrown in the Deep end when it 
came to performance art and Pat was there it's  

like okay go do it and I feel like that's how it's 
been I get thrown in the Deep end it's like all  

right go do it you know I mean you figure out how 
to tread water but yeah that's just been how it's  

worked out for me I jump into the deep end and 
it's like okay figure it out yeah I you know I  

just I really love the Courage the trust the way 
that you like dive into something and then you  

witness how it wants to show up or how it wants to 
unfold as you like step into it and I definitely  

know that as an artist that it is so important to 
be open right to be open to what wants to happen  

knowing that we often come with a vision of what 
we want and then the process starts to inform us  

and that to me really also speaks to that like 
knocking too cuz I big thing that's happened in my  

own work as like a therapist for example is there 
have been many times in sessions when I'm with  

people and that knock comes and it starts to tell me 
to say something and I'm like this has nothing to  

do with what we're talking about or like I have 
no idea why this is here but I've learned I've  

learned to trust them that whenever I bring it 
in there is something that really needed to be  

said or there's a a message coming from either 
an ancestor or a part of someone and I think that  

that like ability to really trust and process is 
something that artists and healers and intuitives  

really start to hone in their lives because we 
start to learn that even if it might feel like  

something that we want to censor or that doesn't 
make sense it lands and then it actually shows us  

why it showed up right it lets us see when we're 
able to be brave and like courageous and bring  

it in and so I'm just really glad you bringing 
this up and really showing how that has shown up  

in many different aspects of your practice and 
one thing that I really admire about you Reina  

is that you you show up in so many different 
ways and I think I'm obviously similar to you  

where I feel like you have so many different 
kinds of ways that your creativity show up and  

I'd love for you to highlight some of them I 
know like for example I was just so excited to  

hear about your new podcast Rooted In Love and 
love for you to share about that and maybe some  

of the other ways that you show up too yes thank 
you so much well I feel like maybe because we're  

air signs like it's easy to be totally different 
ways um but nevertheless uh yes I'm so excited I  

revamped my podcast and I retitled it Rooted In Love 
and uh you could listen to it on Spotify which I'm  

so excited I want to say I almost took maybe a 
year and a half off from recording and it felt  

so daunting to record there was a moment where I 
was like oh but I think of it also that just my  

my focus was starting to shift because I had been 
also during that time uh getting uh practitioner  

training going and establishing my school and so 
I feel like you know it was a redirect yeah and  

and so now I was like okay now I'm ready I'm 
ready to also be more more vocal so to speak  

and really using using that gift to to share 
work and so rooted in love is is as it says you  

know to to just really guide folks to feel that 
deep connection or deeper connection with them  

elves to trust that and so for me it's just really 
exploring things that show up as different maybe  

obstacles but also just ways that we could 
just tend to our well-being and give us that  

apapacho that we need you know that that really 
deep soul level hug and addressing things about  

popular culture which I I love um I used to teach 
uh visual culture and pop culture so that still is  

going to seep in uh in in the in the episodes and 
the other way that um that's really been attending  

to my focus is also the practitioner training 
of S.E.R. which stands for Shamanic Elements and  

Reiki and I I mean I didn't I've never stopped 
teaching I was a college professor I never stopped teaching  

I still and know I still Share work and so I'm 
really excited about the practitioner training  

you know also just being open to letting it evolve 
as it's wanting to like the first time I presented  

it I did it in such a condensed amount of time and 
I realized oh no practitioners need more time to  

integrate so they may spread it out a little bit 
so now it's a six-month training but folks can  

enture or participate at any level depending 
what's resonating with them because everyone  

has different skill set everyone's at a different 
place you know we talked about the medicine wheel  

everyone's coming in at a different place so what 
gift what uh skill set want to deepen or amplify  

and so there's different offerings that are coming 
through that but it feels really complete and  

comprehensive like I'm really happy where it's 
come to and you know speaking of the channeling  

like some of that content are these ancestral ways 
of doing things that I wasn't taught personally by  

someone in my lifetime but has come through you 
know channeled ways through my ancestors through  

my guides it's like okay this this is what we're 
doing okay this is what it looks like and you  

know I I still can be very sassy with them and 
they're like no this is I need you to do it like  

this I was like okay I will but I still don't 
get it you know and so there's still that part  

of me that's a little rebel a little bit and um but I'm also excited 
about how uh some of this process that we've been  

talking about here is going to show up in the book 
projects it's so interesting to see things that  

I've written years ago even decades ago and and 
seeing is this still true to me today and you know  

how can I still have a part of me in that because 
some things shift some things change and then I  

also find comfort in the work of Audre Lorde and 
how they wrote rewrote a poem like five or times  

that was the same title like yeah I could do that 
too okay we're good yeah and I'm curious like you  

know with you bringing in S.E.R. as you mentioned 
it's like for folks at you know different like  

needs or different like levels different places 
in their path but I'm curious like yeah like Who  

Who Are You envisioning joining S.E.R. in case 
there is someone listening and they're maybe  

interested in joining this is great for a holistic 
energy practitioner or someone who's wanting to  

start on that path but even someone who's already 
you know had attunements in different modalities  

and are wanting to integrate ancestral practices 
indigenous practices because I share one way but  

really the the premise is for you to find your 
lineage and integrate your lineage into this  

right um so it's very but the attunements come at 
each level and there's also self-paced content so  

it's really for the practitioner who's wanting 
to integrate more of those ancestral practices  

Wonder wonderful yeah great that's good to know 
yeah now we'll definitely um put some links here  

in the show notes and in the description um of 
the video because this is both going to be on  

YouTube as well as in a podcast form so just 
want to let folks know that you'll find that  

information and I also I know we haven't talked 
about this but I also know that you make kitchen  

witchery in making food and I'm curious if 
you'd like to talk a little bit about about  

that cuz that's also something I really um love 
and admire about your work too yeah so my so  

how this all started was through uh my brand Good 
Mexican Girl and she's actually a character that  

I performed and the performance the good Mexican 
girl was a woman of a certain age Virginia Buenaventura and she all  

of a sudden gets very flustered because she 
has a new tenant in her in her boarding home  

and she doesn't know what that is so you know 
think of like I Love Lucy mix with like the  

Innocence of someone who's like doesn't know what 
sex is um and you get this good Mexican girl and  

so that then that came from lived experience I was 
caring for my mother after surgery and I had been  

living in DC finishing a dissertation fellowship 
and staying a few years after finishing that and  

just like really loving living and you see it 
was wonderful and you know I came home to tend  

to my mother um and you there was a moment where 
yeah I'm like taking care of her making her meals  

bathing her and we're sitting at the kitchen table 
and I just had this thought of like oh my God how  

did I become this good Mexican girl because hello 
Santa Perversa like my model I'm like uh what happened had  

this moment of what happened and so from that 
it was really just um having fun with that notion  

of Good 
Mexican Girl and when I decided to launch 
it was really at the encouragement of folks who  

are like we want your cookies I was like all 
right cool I'll make them and again I had no  

idea what that looked like what that entailed 
like but I was so blessed that the timing of it  

coincided with new legislation that passed in 
California where we could you know have a cottage  

license and that's what opened the door for me 
and so Good 
Mexican Girl has just turned 13 years  

old she's a teenager now and it's vegan bakes 
vegan empanadas and you know we've expanded  

our flavors but they're all you know Mexican 
inspired flavors and I'm so excited because  

literally on the new moon I finally crafted My 
Vegan dulce de leche cookie and I'm so excited I mean  

was our anniversary was our first year anniversary 
cookie and I haven't been able to make it vegan  

because I just didn't like the texture or what it 
looked like and so finally came to that but you  

know other other key like favorites uh like the 
rose water pistachio that came through a dream  

that was a dream that was literally the recipe 
came in a dream and I was like okay we're making  

this and it's been a hit ever since yeah so you 
know again listening to those nudges right how  

they come yeah yeah and going with it right and 
yeah and I I'm just like really grateful to hear  

this backstory and I just also want to say that I 
was able to get some of your vegan pan muerto when it  

was available and my ancestors loved it so just 
thank you so much for the work that you make in  

so many different ways like it is so inspiring 
to just hear of like from performance to writing  

to you know sacred offerings making food like 
there's so many ways that your creativity and your  

connection with your ancestors and your guides 
really shows up in the world and you know with  

with hat said I'm like Curious like if you would like 
to let people know how they can connect with you  

you how they can best get in touch with you and 
how they can work with you absolutely it's been an  

honor to be with you and have this conversation 
with you and thank you for taking me down memory  

lane best ways to connect with me are through my 
website so healingqueen.org and all the links on  

how to work with me are there and also information 
on the school Healing Queen School of Sacred  

Alchemy and the program S.E.R. and other trainings 
that do and then through GoodMexicanGirl.com  

is the website for the food business uh and the 
best way to just follow up with me is follow me  

on Instagram @goodmexicangirl or at @healingqueen_ with an underscore at the end wonderful yay  

well thank you so much Reina for being here it has 
been such a joy to connect with you and to go down  

memory lane with you and again I'm so excited 
to share about you and all the many many ways  

that you support our communities on this podcast 
and you definitely embody how your art has been a  

spell and how it's changed your life and the lives 
of so many people around you so just thank you so  

much for being on this podcast with me thank you 
[Music] blessings that was such an incredible  

conversation that we just had with Reina Healing 
Queen Good 
Mexican Girl Santa Perversa Reina shows  

up in such a multi dimensional variety of ways and 
I'm just really struck by how Reina allows herself  

the freedom to really explore expand experiment 
to try things out I'm just so inspired by the many  

ways that Reina shows up in the world and I really 
want to highlight something from the conversation  

that I'm sitting with is that nudge That Knocking 
that happens I actually learned something about  

that in my therapy training and it's like a way 
that I bring it into sessions when I work with  

people and what that is is if something comes 
knocking once you you listen to it you notice  

it if it comes back again you notice it again 
and if it knocks a third time or even more so  

three or more times you bring it into the session 
no matter what and that has really really tested  

me and also really been deeply deeply transformative 
in my practice and so I've also brought that into  

my artwork as well is when I get a vision when 
something wants to happen I bring it in I let  

it come into my work and so I really want you to 
notice when you get those little knocks that come  

and they can come as like uh Visions in your um 
third eye they can be words that get shared with  

you they could be a knowing or it could be an 
animal a plant ally that comes and shares a  

message there's so many ways that these knocks 
can come into our lives and I think it's really  

important for us to notice when those knocks are 
here and so be open be open to those visitations  

and also be open to things taking a variety of 
forms and perhaps even surprising you thank you  

so much again Reina for being on Your Art Is A 
Spell and I wanted to say that I will be sending  

out a Q&A soon for a future episode uh that I'm 
going to be doing on this season where I'm going  

to be answering your questions around art practice 
spirituality becoming a professional working witch  

all the different ways that I show up in the 
world I want to open up and have like a Q&A  

with folks on my newsletter so if you're not on 
my newsletter this is your invitation to get on  

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all the things that I'm doing in the world and the  

many ways that I'm showing up as well as uh to be 
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pipe so if you feel like sharing a voice message 
on the episode I did with Jeff Hinshaw which is  

episode two you could hear a voice message from 
someone on my newsletter so I just want to invite  

you if you are wanting to to share your voice 
you can go to speakpipe.com/YouArtIsASpell

so those are the two ways that you can send in 
your questions either through my newsletter when  

I ask for Q&A questions or you can also send in 
a message via speak pipe okay that's all for now  

remember your art is a spell and it will change 
your life and the world around you see you soon