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Ava and Jen are getting into the Halloween spirit by telling you all about witches in The Sims. Please, no one invite Anjelica Huston or Anne Hathaway.
Welcome to Under the Plumbob Podcast.
This is the podcast about all things related to the EA-Maxis series of games called The Sims!
We avoid the real world by talking about our made-up ones.
In each episode, we’ll discuss all the topics you love, Building, Gameplay, Lore, and more!
00:00.14
undertheplumbobpod
Welcome to under the pubo podcast the podcast about all things related to the eam maxs series of games called the sims. We avoided the real world by talking about our made up ones each episode will focus on one of several rotating things including. Building gameplay lore and more today is I guess lore maybe game play. Yeah and this is Jen and I have.
00:27.50
Ava
I Guess I guess a combo of learning Gameplay. You could say. Hi It's ava.
00:38.50
undertheplumbobpod
And we're here to party today and talk about witches and I guess spellcasters because I guess witches aren't technically a thing and sim's one and sims for.
00:53.95
Ava
Well you I Yeah I don't know why they went with the whole spell caster thing maybe to make it like more gender neutral because like. You know tech in and pop culture witches are considered women and then if you have a a man. It's a wizard or a warlock but that's not true. Those are completely different schools of magic like a guy can be a witch.. A woman can be a warlock or a wizard it just it depends on the.
01:16.10
undertheplumbobpod
To sort of talk.
01:24.10
Ava
Kind of magic that you do somebody pick up a D and D Handbook please and just educate yourselves ey um but I don't know I Guess that's why they did it but they started out as which is so.
01:42.78
Ava
I Don't know why they made that change but it's spellcasters now.
01:47.12
undertheplumbobpod
And it so like here we go again with my not knowing anything I know the basics of Harry Potter but I don't know like the main thing so like there's witches and then there's like Spel. Wizards but like witches are not like you said gender new like it's a gender neutral thing like wizards are gender.
02:14.41
Ava
Yes, which which is like both men and women can be witches. It's just because they practice witchcraft and like even if you want to go the like the the J K Rowing way and you know whatever that woman considers lore anymore. Um, it says. The hocraft the hogwars school of witchcraft and wizardry and she was right and now witchcraft and wizardry are considered 2 different branches of magic.
02:42.67
undertheplumbobpod
So yeah, okay, that's sure they do call it. They use the wizard part to I forgot um.
02:45.54
Ava
Yeah, and like wizardry is then can is then again you know, divided into different schools of magic like conjuration, abjuration, Etc, etc. Um, but we're not really here to talk about the technicalities Of. What witchcraft is but if you want to like really follow that setting of you know there are different branches of Magic. You just go go on D and D Beyond and like read up on the different magic classes because you have wizardry. Ah, so you can be wizards you can be a sorcerer then there's drew the like the druids are a whole different thing of of like magic so you can be a woman and be a wizard. And you can be a man and be a witch like it has nothing to do with Gender. These aren't gender terms So I don't know why why they went like the spillcaster route but I don't know.
03:49.27
undertheplumbobpod
And do we know why E a does anything the day.
03:52.43
Ava
No no, we don't I you know you could have just kept them all witches like theres a male Witch. There's a female whichitch.. There's a non-binary Witch. It's a gender neutral term but I guess because of like. You know which is in like even in in in like be olden times during the witch trials like guys were mostly women because you know they were women but some guys were prosecuted for witchcraft and and like execute it for witchcraft as well.
04:25.97
undertheplumbobpod
I didn't actually know that that's crazy.
04:29.38
Ava
Yeah I think one of them was Giles Corey during the Salem witch trials like he got smooshed to death and he wouldn't confess. Yeah they put like like they put like a plate on his on on his chest and like put stones on it and they kept trying to get him to confess like say you know.
04:36.94
undertheplumbobpod
And just crazy.
04:49.17
Ava
Admit, you're witch. No okay more weight and they kept piling on the rocks until like his eyes popped out of a skull and then eventually he got smooshed I think I think his last words were like more weight or something because he just refused to confess that he was a witch.
04:58.58
undertheplumbobpod
Who.
05:06.50
undertheplumbobpod
Demand hope.
05:07.65
Ava
But he was also he was also ah accused of witchcraft like men can men can be witches too and women can be wizards and if you're non binary. You can be whatever the hell you want to be so there. But yeah, but I guess.
05:21.44
undertheplumbobpod
Um, that's crazy I didn't have.
05:24.59
Ava
If I wanted to take like ah a a running leap and take a guess I'm I'm going to say maybe ah the whole like fairy tale effect of it like the witches there were you know these ugly old crohnes. There was a think a german artist who always depicted witches as like these ugly old women with wars warts on their face and that's like where the classic view of witches came from if you if you um, listen to podcasts. Bailey Saion actually did a um, an episode about that recently on oh is it dark history. Yeah, so she I think.
06:11.48
undertheplumbobpod
Ah, history. Yeah.
06:14.96
Ava
Ah, not the most recent one. No yeah, the most recent 1 episode 57 the witches are coming Hydra Broom hyd your goats. Um, she talks about how like the image of the witch that we have like the ugly old woman with the long nose and everything came to be um and yes. Mostly women were persecuted as witches but some men as well. So you know you want to be a witch be a witch regardless of what is in your pants I guess I don't I don't know how that works.
06:48.13
undertheplumbobpod
But regardless of what ey wants you to call yourself because Ea can't even make up their mind. What they want you to call yourself.
06:51.76
Ava
Yeah, you know I don't I mean they're very. It's very very progressive of them to like give us all these options of like you know pronouns and everything I'm very happy about that.
07:04.37
undertheplumbobpod
Yeah, yeah.
07:11.66
Ava
Way to go keep it going. However, they're not everything needs to be like gender neutralized even if like mostly because it was already gender neutral to begin with. But yeah, like I said I think it's just the. Pop culture ah view of like you know the Disney witch if you will that witches are like even if you look at sword in the stone you know Merlin's a wizard and Madam Mim's a witch and witches are evil blah blah blah wizs are good in a.
07:47.51
Ava
It's yeah, it's It's kind of a view that's ingrained. So Maybe they were worried that if they called them witches Some people were going to be fair weighty there. We mean you know I don't know how how things work anymore I'm also on a shit ton of Antibiotics. So My brain is like on some notes. So.
08:07.70
undertheplumbobpod
That's okay I just for whatever reason I guess that I'm too old to go out and enjoy life because now like I'm just like I woke up at ten o'clock and I'm like oh I'm so tired. Why am I tired.
08:20.18
Ava
I mean I am tired all the time that is my default setting I get it. It's just at some point in your life and I don't think it has anything to do with like your physical age. It's more like a mental thing where you're.
08:24.52
undertheplumbobpod
Yeah, yeah.
08:35.51
Ava
All of a sudden you're in this place in your life where you have all these responsibilities and you have to be like a functioning member of society and it's just so emotionally and mentally draining that That's what makes you tired all the time so you know some of us are just trying to keep our shit together and.
08:45.89
undertheplumbobpod
Yes, yes.
08:54.19
Ava
That's that's a lot of spoons. You know we don't have and some people you know we we all have things on our plates but it's not the amount of stuff you have on your plate. It's the size of your plate. Some people's plates are smaller than others some people deal with things like I deal I deal with stress By. Burying myself in a blanket burrito and just listening to murder podcasts that is how I deal with stress some people go for a run I admire those people. What I do it myself. Fuck. No I don't see the point in running without something chasing you but you know you you do you do. You do you? That's that's the most as long as you don't hurt anybody with what you do you fucking? Do you man you deal you deal with life How you? But how you can deal What is possible for you.
09:46.85
undertheplumbobpod
Here's what I do I I'm gonna se way into this just get ready I play this ends but or for I feel you.
09:51.40
Ava
Um, yeah, a we go? Yeah, we got off on a bit of ah, a very long tangent there I get philosophical and I'm sick.
10:04.90
undertheplumbobpod
I play the sims unfortunately for too many hours. Um, and.
10:09.40
Ava
I'm I'm afraid to look at my origin account at this point and that's just for sims four because I've been playing since sims one. So I have so many things to tell you about sims one witches.
10:12.13
undertheplumbobpod
Oh.
10:18.88
undertheplumbobpod
So I never got to play this Well so I remember my best friend had this and like he wouldn't let me play it but I watched him play it. He was the.
10:32.70
Ava
Ah, best friend if he didn't let you play.
10:38.27
undertheplumbobpod
He's a different person now is all I can say he was like you just watch me play and watch what I do and like I remember the book and that's all I remember and apparently there's so much more than having a book. Yeah.
10:38.80
Ava
Yeah, my God rood. No.
10:53.13
Ava
And see when I played it with my best friend when I played any games with my best friend I would like hand her the controller and she'd be like no no, no no I want to watch like okay so we would play tomb braider together and she would read the walkthroughs and tell me where to go.
11:03.18
undertheplumbobpod
Oh.
11:11.50
Ava
We'd play Spiro together and she would tell me if I like missed a gem somewhere. She'd be like gem over there gem over there and we actually 100% completed all of sper all the spiro 3 together because she was helping me out. Yeah, so it was super fun.
11:24.72
undertheplumbobpod
Oh no, he taught me some bad things to do in tomb Raider. So Um I never learned how to play video games in a way that was healthy. Ah, used that he showed me that you could this goes back to sims and like causing Chaos. He showed me in doom raider that you could jump like when you're in her house in her pool kids if you go back to tomb raider one for the playstation. You jump up.
11:54.26
Ava
Oh.
11:59.57
undertheplumbobpod
And you can light her on fire and then you can jump back and put her out in the bowl and.
12:00.20
Ava
Yeah, yeah I always used to lock the butler in the fridge. Super fun, new heat Sometimes he like he always had a way like dude just stay in the freezer. It's fine.
12:08.56
undertheplumbobpod
Yeah I love doing that and then you still come out though that sucked like just stay in the fridge.
12:19.80
Ava
Um, but yeah, no, if I wasn't playing trueumriter I played Sims one back in those days and that was ah you so yeah, the book. The book was ah an important thing because that's how you cast like half of your spells so you had the book well no the book was actually the main thing that's how you. Castor spells and made your charms but you had like the wand to cast spells and the charm maker to make charms. Um and like whenever you started a new game and you you added the like the magic part of it. Um. There would be a man in a pink coat that would come to your door and he would leave a box there and he would ah it would be a box with um, a wand and some basic ingredients magic coins and not the book. But it's like a computer thing like. You had like classical versions of the spell casting tools and like were modern versions so you had the classic like leather bound tome and you had like this touchscreen computer thing that was supposed to be a spellbook which was hilarious. Um, so yeah so you got I think you got the basic and ingredients to make like 1 spell which was the totification charm if I'm not mistaken I could be wrong. tell me if I'm wrong don't tell me if I'm wrong I don't like it when people tell me when I'm wrong. Um.
13:35.40
undertheplumbobpod
Oh boy. Um.
13:52.25
undertheplumbobpod
Um, never tell us when we're wrong. How does we wrong.
13:53.64
Ava
Yeah, no, um, but you also got a hole in the ground and the hole in the ground was kind of like one of those acme like rabbit hole things was like a neon arrow pointing down towards it and that's how you got to magic town. Yeah, that was super fun. You just like cannonball into the hole and.
14:06.39
undertheplumbobpod
Oh wow.
14:13.38
Ava
You'd come out into magic town. But first you'd get like the loading screen with like the amazing music for the music and making magic was my absolute favorite sims music of all time I will fight you on that? Um, but yeah, that's how you became I guess a spellcaster. You were never called a witch or a wizard or a warlock or whatever you could just cast spells and go to magictown even if you didn't use magic you could still go to magic town because it had like carnival rides and everything and and you could go see a magic show or whatever so you didn't have to. Be like involved in the spell casting aspect of it if you wanted to go to magic 10 which was fun. Um, but yeah, but it wasn't until the sims two where it became an actual separate life state life states.
14:58.33
undertheplumbobpod
That's cool.
15:08.29
Ava
Didn't actually become a thing until sims 2 So what you did have was the charm the beauty or the beast like the beauty or beast charm. Um, and there was like a witch warlock costume that you could wear.
15:13.81
undertheplumbobpod
Yeah, yeah, um.
15:25.40
Ava
I Think we discussed that on the werewolves episode as well. Um, it just it just altered your look for a little while it was time to like it would wear off and of course if it backfired you'd be stuck with the head of a donkey but um, yeah, that was basically the only thing you could do. Or you know, change your clothes to look a little more witchy like I don't know download some skins or something. Um, but you weren't actually anything else if that makes it.
15:52.61
undertheplumbobpod
Yep I'm trying to look these up because I never like I said I didn't get to play and I don't think we ever got that far. We were playing.
16:04.84
Ava
Ah, that was like the best the best expansion I'm so sad you missed out on that.
16:12.11
undertheplumbobpod
I So when I had sims one I had that um and then I had the party one and then I had I got super superstar. What was that.
16:27.46
Ava
Yeah superstar.
16:28.63
undertheplumbobpod
Super yeah and because I got it because I wanted Avril Levine in my game because I was like.
16:34.85
Ava
Do I remember her walking around magic town fucking Aver Levine and Christine a gallera I was ah no, they did have Marilyn Monroe that which I thought was nice I think she.
16:41.68
undertheplumbobpod
But they did not. They did not have my girl Britney so I was sad about that and drew care. Oh yeah, you're right? so.
16:54.17
Ava
Carrie came with house party. Yeah, he would come to your party if it was a cool party.
17:02.40
undertheplumbobpod
Oh they're not I can't find it on Google correctly I'm not Google savvy but oh look at Jess will probably put it in the um, but sims.
17:12.33
Ava
I'm sure she'll find something.
17:19.28
undertheplumbobpod
You whichches were like my introduction because like apartment was my favorite favorite hack ever and like I loved like I loved the costumes like I'm a sucker for medieval costumes and like I remember. Like I was making all of my sims witches most of the time because they're so like I love the costumes like I liked I was just watching a video by Red Plum Bob I think is what who it was and they were showing like what the. Different ones could do and like simms 2 3 and 4 and like a lot of that stuff I forgot so like the sims too. It has neutral um evil or like good.
18:12.72
Ava
And those ones always gave me a massive like wizard of oz vibe because the good like all like white and light blue tones and the the evil which was like she had a green face and like black robes and everything So I always got like.
18:13.18
undertheplumbobpod
And then um.
18:17.80
undertheplumbobpod
I Don't know that.
18:32.80
undertheplumbobpod
Yes.
18:32.20
Ava
Glenda the good witch versus the wicked witch kind of yeah, it just got massive wizard of oswibes from that one but I like the fact that you could be neutral.
18:38.43
undertheplumbobpod
A wizard was I don't my brain like people don't have captions So like my brain hears the wildest things and I thought you said what's wizard of boggs and I was like what's this I don't know.
18:49.15
Ava
Um, oh no, no no wizard ah wizard of Oz I have I had.
18:55.21
undertheplumbobpod
All these cool references That's like so is my brain will just hear the most off the wall things and like I'll look at people and I'm like that's not what I heard you say.
19:01.20
Ava
Ah, have bronchitis. So yeah, my maybe pronunciation isn't the greatest at the moment. So.
19:13.79
undertheplumbobpod
And then they're like well that's not what I said and I'm like I'm sorry you don't come with captions I have auditory processing disorder. So like I just like stare at people Sometimes when they say things and then I'm like huh would you say.
19:28.25
Ava
I I feel that but for me, it's just cause I'm dumb sometimes like sometimes my brain just goes like I don't want to I don't want a brain today so you figure it out I'm like thanks okay, cool. You know.
19:34.39
undertheplumbobpod
Um, so ah I'm done for today. Let's go to sleep.
19:45.48
Ava
It's It's not because like it's not because I'm dumb it's because it's because I have undiagnosed add and sometimes I will just be in a conversation and I will completely zone out and just go like huh I have no idea what you just said my concentration comes and goes.
19:51.72
undertheplumbobpod
Yep.
19:58.42
undertheplumbobpod
Yep.
20:02.50
Ava
Like it's why I always have to keep busy when I'm doing I can't just sit there and watch a movie I have to crochet and watch a movie I can't just sit and listen to a podcast I have to knit and listen to a podcast. That's why that's why video games are so good for me because it keeps me stimulated visually orally.
20:05.93
undertheplumbobpod
Yes, like yes. Yes, yes.
20:22.70
Ava
Ah, well auditory and it keeps my hands busy. So I have my mental stimulation I have my my motor my motor simulation and that that's why I'm so that's why that's why I'm good with it.
20:34.81
undertheplumbobpod
See me and my partner have the autism also so it's like we have video games but we also have to have something in the background. So like I'll go in there and he's streaming and he'll have like his game up and then he'll have his Youtube video up but he has his Youtube in his ear because he's streaming. With like the sound going and then he's got music going while he's streaming and I'm like that's overload for me. However I will sit there and like at the end of the night to wind down I'll go in there and watch something on the Tv and I'll play my game at this the sims at the same time.
21:08.78
Ava
Yeah I do the same.
21:12.81
undertheplumbobpod
Because the sims well I don't think the sims is very like stimulating enough that you can't just play the sims.
21:18.53
Ava
I Mean if you do a challenge or something like you have to be focused sure. But it's the perfect kind of thing to sort of like wind down and not pay attention and you can have your attention divided when it comes to the sims.
21:24.33
undertheplumbobpod
2 2
21:32.56
undertheplumbobpod
Yes, I've not done challenges like I tried to do the and it's the one where you have to pay for the thing to be in your household the coat of arms and.
21:46.96
Ava
I Would I don't know what that is I don't I stay far away from challenges I'm like no this is my happy place I don't want to struggle in this this is like.
21:52.88
undertheplumbobpod
Um.
21:59.70
Ava
But 1 game I can play or I can have like can my sim have the perfect life and not have to worry about shit and I want to keep it that way.
22:06.98
undertheplumbobpod
Yeah, um I don't know the challenge I could be making this up. My friend could have made up the challenge rules. But she said that you get a code of might be the the generation challenge because you have to have a coat of arms. Because it's $13000 similar lands and you will have to do a family.
22:23.73
Ava
Jesus.
22:30.60
Ava
That I There are so many challenges I don't know I don't know that one like I know a couple but there's so many like they can turn anything into a challenge and the fact that you know people have to make their own challenges in this game kind of says a lot about but the replayability sometimes. But.
22:34.61
undertheplumbobpod
Um, nobody.
22:47.96
undertheplumbobpod
Ah, yeah.
22:50.60
Ava
I Mean that's a whole other. That's a whole other thing I recently actually made a little challenge for myself that was witch related and the sims for I made myself a little forest which living in a cabin in the woods off the grid.
22:51.10
undertheplumbobpod
Where.
22:59.28
undertheplumbobpod
Beset.
23:05.83
Ava
And I was going to try and have her live solely off of herbilism. Not great, not great. Turns out, you cannot earn money to live off of ah with just her listen.
23:09.70
undertheplumbobpod
Oh how'd that work. Oh.
23:22.10
Ava
Because you would have to like buy 1 of those street seller tables and then go out to a public lot and sell your potions but you would also have to go camping to collect the necessary ingredients foresaid potions because the bugs and stuff can only be found there like you could get plants and then plant those at home. But if you want the bugs you gotta go camp and and camp and a cheap. So basically all of my profits that I made from making those herbilism things and selling them I wouldn't even have enough to you know, get a camping trip for a few days to. Gather more ingredients. So yeah, it wasn't doable. Absolutely not not doable. Would not recommend 0 out of 10.
24:07.18
undertheplumbobpod
So was that the point because like when I do the camping thing I don't see ah I don't ever go to that I don't have my son to go to the campgrounds because I don't see a point to it I guess was that the point to it was for. But.
24:21.24
Ava
Ah, well if you if you go camping and you go to the that specific world to go camping. You can either have a cottage or you can sleep in a tent. But if you walk around there in that world.
24:23.54
undertheplumbobpod
So.
24:36.40
undertheplumbobpod
Yeah.
24:38.33
Ava
You'll be able to collect bugs and ah like poisonous plants or like other plants and those and I think some frogs as well that you only find there and those will those are to make these herbalism things.
24:54.94
undertheplumbobpod
So local.
24:55.80
Ava
But because most ingredients are so difficult or just such a hassle to collect I've never done anything with it because you always have to go camping in order to collect those um those ingredients and I just.
25:01.13
undertheplumbobpod
Yeah, yeah.
25:11.38
Ava
Figured I'd give it a shot So I made this challenge for myself like maybe a little forest which I'm gonna focus on Herbism and it's just it's not. It's not not sustainable at all. Would not recommend see I wanted to get rich off of selling wedding cakes. But that wedding pack is still so broken I can't do it.
25:21.30
undertheplumbobpod
This good to know.
25:29.56
undertheplumbobpod
Um.
25:30.40
Ava
And I'm still I'm still bitter about it. So I'm going to keep I'm going to keep bitching about it until it's fixed.
25:31.48
undertheplumbobpod
See Here's the thing I still want to know and if listeners if you guys know this Why is it because we had a convert. We all had a conversation in our group chat about this. Why is it that. So I don't understand I'm not a programmer. How come. Some people have bugs and you can have bugs let game bugs not like the bugs ava was talking about I can have a bug and I use mods. But it's the same bug that someone who doesn't use Mods has but then someone else who does use Mods doesn't have this bug and then someone else who doesn't have mods doesn't have this bug but like there's like some bugs that everybody has. But there's some bugs that not everybody has why why is this and I'm not pausing for you people to answer because you can't so just send us a message well like I can't.
26:36.89
Ava
Ea hates me. That's why oh the? Yeah but that's that's some people who have that problem as well I don't know if it's like everybody has this problem. Most people have this problem I've seen it pop up more and more.
26:39.71
undertheplumbobpod
Do the cake thing either and then there was like 1 other one that you couldn't do that I couldn't do either.
26:53.18
Ava
Ah, for the high school pack. My teens don't go to their after school activities like it's kind of like it's kind of like going to a job where they're like oh they're on their way to their after school activity but they immediately teleport home. No time has passed but the job is like the.
26:56.31
undertheplumbobpod
Oh my dear.
27:10.25
Ava
After the activity is over and they have a negative performance because they apparently missed it.
27:13.95
undertheplumbobpod
Yeah I don't I don't have that glitch but see she ava has that glitch I don't and Caitlyn and Caitlin Allie and Julia all said that they never went to graduation I went to graduation.
27:19.47
Ava
Yeah, so.
27:31.64
undertheplumbobpod
But like my sim didn't go in her cap and gown. So what? the what is this.
27:36.49
Ava
I've honestly been so pissed about like some aspects of the the high school pack not working especially like the after school activities because that was like a big a big draw for me because it's something that I never got to do in school. That's not really ah ah a thing here in Belgium like these after school activities.
27:44.90
undertheplumbobpod
Yeah.
27:54.35
Ava
But because I haven't been able to like you know play the way I wanted to with that I've just been so pissed I haven't touched it I didn't even get a sim to graduation I got into Prom Prom was fine I Guess um, but no, no I didn't get him into graduation I just stopped playing I was like fuck this house.
28:03.53
undertheplumbobpod
28:14.10
undertheplumbobpod
I mean it is be and you know what do you know when the wedgecraft actually started to be a life state seems to um, you can become a witch by.
28:14.21
Ava
You know what it is I Think what you think I know what it is. It's witchcraft there.
28:23.61
Ava
Yeah.
28:31.40
undertheplumbobpod
You? Well I mean you can literally go into create a sim I think that's what it showed in that video. No so you had to actually get turned in this 1 right? okay.
28:35.88
Ava
Now now. Yeah yeah, you can in sims 2 You could not make alternate life states in create a sim that was not possible until sims 3
28:47.86
undertheplumbobpod
Okay, okay.
28:53.53
Ava
So if you wanted to be a fanpire were a wolf witch. You had to get turned how to get turt am I right? God fucking me I'm sorry just ignore me. Yeah, well it did involve like brewing something I think.
28:55.20
undertheplumbobpod
Okay, so then like yeah they're doing it. You're getting turk by their cauldrons.
29:13.75
Ava
I'm not sure oh no, that was the that was the push and to cure it.
29:15.74
undertheplumbobpod
So yes, so as um, you must be turned by 1 this can be done by befriending a highitchitch who at times shows up at a community lot. And asking to be taught either the way of light or darkness or directing a playable witch with enough magic to catch meus muttasio I'm sorry I'm american um on the target sim and.
29:40.11
Ava
Yep, no, that is correct.
29:46.91
undertheplumbobpod
Once done the sim will either be a good or Evil witch or neutral depending on the type of which you turn them and we'll have an extended name including their alignment title. So like who did this? Oh that's one of the caps.
29:55.92
Ava
Yeah.
30:04.40
undertheplumbobpod
Gonail cap the evil witch they will also receive which attire a rob in a hat in the required kit. They'll get a cauldron in a spellbook and then their colors will be determined by the which they were turned by and like the dark like Ava said before the dark witch looks like.
30:18.34
Ava
Yep.
30:23.60
Ava
No I Well I don't know what I can't remember what the the bad which was but wasn't I mean she kind of looks like elphaba from the sim sp.
30:23.80
undertheplumbobpod
Is there her name El Faba And what's the.
30:37.30
undertheplumbobpod
I know that what's the green lady. The bad Witch's name I thought it was al faba and that's what that one's name after yeah oh I'm I'm not I'm not a what do you call that a theater nerd.
30:42.28
Ava
Oh El Oh from my from Wicked Yeah alphabet. Yeah.
30:56.53
undertheplumbobpod
Like I was in theater in school but I like I know we're about 2 Yeah.
31:00.15
Ava
Yeah, but that's in sims four. There's one of the spell casters like the high scale ah spell casters. There is called L as in the Letter L and then Faba ah and she's a play on Alphaba from.
31:08.70
undertheplumbobpod
Oh.
31:13.22
Ava
Wicked Who became essentially the the Wicked witch of the west.
31:16.26
undertheplumbobpod
Yeah, and like she we'll talk about it a little bit but she's like bat. She's a she's got evil I think is one of her traits.
31:27.64
Ava
I Yeah yeah mean yes, and no I don't think you could have like an evil did it like the sims too didn't have traits yet they they worked. They still worked with the sims one system where they had like um.
31:32.90
undertheplumbobpod
Wrong.
31:44.71
Ava
Ah, sliding scale with like 10 ah dashes and you can you have like certain points that you could allocate. Do you had like neat and sloppy and you could have like 5 points or 6 points in neat or you could have like 2 points and then you wouldn't be more like stop. Floppy I don't um I think maybe I think there was like grumpy or something else I don't think there was like a good or evil per se um, but shoot yeah, the black witches were supposed to be considered.
32:19.88
undertheplumbobpod
Evil this.
32:22.12
Ava
Evil You had like infallibly good to atrociously Evil and the spells were also ah divided into categories of good neutral and evil the more evil spells you cast the more evil.
32:28.40
undertheplumbobpod
Oh yeah.
32:41.24
Ava
Your witch becomes like your alignment becomes and I think also the more the more evil spells you can you can cast. But ah. The more good you would cast you do more good. You would become and if you cast both equally. It would be like you would be neutral.
32:59.17
undertheplumbobpod
And then like the neutral they had like earthy tones. It looked like yeah and then yes.
33:02.61
Ava
Yeah, brown just like Brown and grays which I personally preferred over the other ones I really like the the neutral ones.
33:13.34
undertheplumbobpod
And then like your good witches were giving me like Elsa vibes but Elsa didn't exist at the dime like it was like blue and white and.
33:27.60
Ava
Yeah, um I think she was based on Glenda from ah was a rev os like Glenda goodwitch like whites and blues and like this ethereal vibe. Um, yeah, so that was that was her.
33:37.34
undertheplumbobpod
Yeah, and you probably could have downloaded a large pink Glinda dress back then but she went't a wore it all the time but it would have been cute.
33:53.56
Ava
Yeah I suppose you could ah I'm pretty sure there is custom content out there to like really make them wizard of Oz style probably.
33:59.23
undertheplumbobpod
Oh yeah I was obsessed with custom content in the sims too and like I literally had like the the skins were the skins were a lot different if y'all don't know the skins were like. You could literally just download. Someone's whole skin like I had Billy Joe from green day and he has Hela tattoos and eyeliners so like yep and like he.
34:25.80
Ava
Yeah, the custom skins they would be like under skin tone or makeup that you would then have that's there wasn't There wasn't really a way to have like preset sims back back then you would have to download said sim and like there.
34:39.83
undertheplumbobpod
Yeah.
34:44.20
Ava
Ah, whole appearance would be like their skin tone so which was interesting if you like worked with genetics because if they made that certain skin tone on like the darkest skin tone.
34:45.30
undertheplumbobpod
Yeah, yeah.
34:57.79
Ava
But your ah your sim would be like very light looking. But for some reason they like underlaid the darkest skin tone if you had a baby with that sim. They would have that darkest skin tone so you could have like 2 white looking parents and then this black child and then go like what the fuck happened here you know. Um, but it would be that skin tone and like I had I think I had that once with sim that used the not white skin tone but it looked like the skin itself looked white and then they were like 2 white sims and they had like a darker skin baby and I was like how the. Thought and then I figured it out like oh it's because this skin tone even though it looks white is categorized and like think it was like the second or third darkest toe and I was like oh that's interesting. So.
35:46.14
undertheplumbobpod
Oh that's right? because it was always there was four skin tones. It was like or 3 it was like white tan in black which was.
35:52.49
Ava
Yeah I think 3 yeah.
36:02.23
undertheplumbobpod
Unfortunately the preset setting in every game back in the early 2000 s
36:05.15
Ava
Ah, yeah, if you were Asian you were shit out of luck. You had to you look for like custom content skin tones which there were a lot of because fortunately we've always had like a lot of models who saw what was lacking and were like it's okay fam we got to.
36:19.69
undertheplumbobpod
Shout out to the mothers that favor people in the entire world.
36:21.82
Ava
So yeah, like it at least pissed me off that in every single game like I know this is like not something I have the right to bitch about like very first world problem problems but they never had like proper blonde hair. It always looked like.
36:40.97
undertheplumbobpod
Um, yeah.
36:41.30
Ava
Like Oric yellow and that always pissed me off because I have like I'm strawberry Blonde. So I'm not blonde blonde but I'm also not a redhead redhead and then never I never got like my my color hair in there. But fortunately things to modes I did find a lot of hairstyles that had like kind of like my hair color in there which was fun. Um, but yeah, maybe start start making proper Blonde hair. Please no, they don't It's like it's either Lego Brick Yellow or like this.
37:09.65
undertheplumbobpod
And I feel like they don't have that now even like they don't have like a strawberry blonde.
37:19.48
Ava
Dirty I don't know like dirty pee color or just really like white blonde. It's like egg shell like this is not This is not a hair color like how why.
37:27.83
undertheplumbobpod
It's ah like we yeah.
37:33.77
undertheplumbobpod
Poor Dina Nina I don't know the 2 the blonde one. She's walking around town with her macaroni cheese hair.
37:36.90
Ava
Yeah, the cal the Kelly andtas. Yeah I yeah I guess so what? yeah a macaroni and cheese exactly you look like you were wearing a bowl of craft on your hair like why? Why yay this is this. Same thing that I had complaints about in dragon age and this is also electronic arts I'm looking at you you know freaking bioware. Ah you made some great games. But when I was in dragon age.
37:56.85
undertheplumbobpod
Oh.
38:05.10
Ava
Inquisition I was like everything looks so fucking good I'm sure they'll have decent blonde hair. No no, absolutely not piss Yellow That's what it was so no, no I'm not like give me give me a game with proper blonde hair and we can talk fucking.
38:14.89
undertheplumbobpod
O o. Yeah.
38:24.49
Ava
Dreamlight Valley has my color hair Disney's Dreamlight Valley so that was like pleasantly surprised.
38:26.47
undertheplumbobpod
5 I got to run to the potty real quick if I don't know if you you can talk don't do anything. Don't do anything interesting till I get back. Don't drop your camera so I can laugh.
38:36.24
Ava
Okay, we will I can talk um, don't do anything interesting until you get back? okay.
38:51.40
undertheplumbobpod
When I get back.
38:52.60
Ava
Okay, um, well while ah, Jenna's in the potty I am just going to sit. You can't see me because we you know we have cameras but you don't obviously this is a podcast but I am crocheting right now. Um. Because gas prices are going up and I refuse to turn on my central heating until my extremities are literally blue. Oh so I'm knitting myself a cardigan out of some really nice. It's ah like a wool polyester blend because. Ah, can't I can't do 100 % like natural fabric but like fibers cause that shit's expensive. Um I am also a bigger girl so I need more skenes of yarn than the average person and if it's like ten bucks a skiing you know that just startned account. Ah. But I am crocheting myself a lovely cardigan did a little mockup earlier with some cheap scrap yarn that I had lying around and now I finally have the proper yarn to make my cardigan and you can't see it but it's like a lovely wine red. Because apparently that looks good and on my pasty skin and my red hair I am working on the back panel now I'm almost done with it. So I'm almost done with the the back panel I made it a little bit longer than it's supposed to be because it's supposed to be like a bomber.
40:21.17
Ava
Jacket type of thing that's like shorter but I'm actually I've made it a little bit longer and then I have 2 front panels to make and then two sleeves and they're balloon sleeves which I absolutely love so I'm absolutely looking forward to that. It's actually really cute. Like when I finished it. It was super cute I'm really happy with it. So oh yeah, Jen's back hey maybe you can put this in the bloopers or something.
40:41.17
undertheplumbobpod
I Want to see whatever I love a balloon sleeve. My friend says that I love Balloon sleeve so much I'm going to turn into a balloon sleeve.
40:54.63
Ava
Ah, it's ah it's super. It's super cute I don't have like the mockup is downstairs. So I can't actually show you but this is the back panel so far. Um, yeah, it's a really cute color.
41:02.69
undertheplumbobpod
I Love that color.
41:07.98
Ava
But yeah, like I said I needed Eleven Eleven skenes of this. Um, so if I wanted to get this in like a marrino or like 100% natural fibers I'd be looking at like ten eleven bucks a skene so that's over for a hundred bucks for a cardigan.
41:14.38
undertheplumbobpod
Ah, oh my goodness. Oh.
41:23.77
undertheplumbobpod
Or out. Yeah.
41:25.98
Ava
Fortunately, these were like three fifty askeing so you know 35 is still doable and while one day I will absolutely make a garment out of like 100 % natural fibers and really like turn out the cash for some proper yarn like really nice. Warm yarn I want to get better at like I would like to knit myself a sweater and I'm not good enough at knitting yet to really justify paying that like amount of money for the yarn because I would probably end up fuck like end up fucking up somehow and then. Waste all that yarn and I just I can't can't get myself to do it.
42:06.38
undertheplumbobpod
You guys are just so talented and then I just like started to crochet one day and I couldn't line down I had to slow the video down to like negative like 25 to watch her how she flipped it and I still couldn't get it. And I cried and I just put it down forever.
42:29.21
Ava
But it's so much fun I get it though I had to watch a lot of tutorials on how to do certain stitches as well. But once you once you realize like once you you realize that all crocheting is just a bunch of loops. It's it's easy to sort of like get the anatomy of a stitch. Um, and it's it's kind of easy to figure it out. But there's like a lot of complicated stitches out there that combine multiple stitches into one.. There's like the popcorn stitch or the puff stitch and those are.
43:02.15
undertheplumbobpod
Your.
43:05.30
Ava
Yeah, those can be complicated because there's one where you have to like ah yarn over and pull up a loop and then yarn over and pull up a loop a yarn over and pull up a loop and then like pull through and then you pull your loop up and then you go. Through your stitch put the loop back on your hook and just like pull it through the stitch and then you have like 1 of those little ball thingies. It's yeah it first time I did that I was like what the fuck am I doing. But once you get the hang of it. It's super fun.
43:42.17
undertheplumbobpod
Um, I'm gonna go back in to spells and regents I don't know what a region is oh oh.
43:48.42
Ava
Oh a reagent is based. It's an ingredient. It's what you use to cast spells. It's like I don't know I have Newt and dragon scale or whatever.
43:57.21
undertheplumbobpod
Oh why is it called a reagent versus an ingredient.
44:04.50
Ava
Um I think it's called a reagent because it's supposed to like conjure a reaction like English etymology isn't my strong suit. But I think reagents and stuff were used.
44:09.54
undertheplumbobpod
Oh.
44:17.96
Ava
In maybe alchemical terms and stuff and reagent reaction I don't know it just makes sense I could be completely wrong. Um, but I think that's what's called a reagent.
44:26.24
undertheplumbobpod
That makes sense but you do your spells. Um, you learn a spell from each level of Magic Um, each spell requires a certain level of Magic. Or specific number of reagents to be used. These can be obtained by purchasing them from the Npc witches or crafted in a cauldron unlike and make and magic sims aren't required to prepare spells spells before casting. And instead just require the right combination of reagents on the spot which is with higher magic will have a higher success Obviously um, then yeah yeah.
45:07.92
Ava
Yeah, that's still the same the better. The better you are at something the more likely you are to succeed.
45:16.69
undertheplumbobpod
Yeah, like apply real world logic to the sim sometimes not all the time.
45:20.11
Ava
Yeah, you can still fuck up though. Take it from someone who had to frog like half a hat because she fucked up and it was like 3 sizes too big. Um I could literally fit my entire head it like my entire face in it.
45:31.44
undertheplumbobpod
Ah, oh oh so we got a ski mask instead of a hat.
45:38.10
Ava
Not great. Yeah, except there were no eyes or mouth in it so couldn't breathe. Um, no I ended up I think I ended up debating to turn it into a cushion which I could have um but I just.
45:46.90
undertheplumbobpod
Ah, don't do that.
45:53.69
undertheplumbobpod
You know.
45:56.64
Ava
And I just ended up frogging it and then I never made it again. Yeah was supposed to be a beret but I yeah fuck.
45:58.62
undertheplumbobpod
Oh 4
46:06.14
undertheplumbobpod
Oh and those start like yeah, you needed to be a little small but not like fully small. Um, so you have your spells. Sorry um.
46:09.42
Ava
Yeah, not not little tiny smell.
46:22.97
undertheplumbobpod
You have your spells organized into Categories. You got your good neutral evil. Um, and so your sim's going to study their good evil neutral depending what they are um And. An infallibly good witch can cast like an expelo morttis and also craft the throne throne of light but an atrociously evil witch could do vivictus Zombie 8 And craft the throne of darkness the 2 thrones do exactly the same thing but if a non-magal sim sits in the chair. No mood effects will occur. But if a witch sits in the opposite chair The Witch's motives go down rapidly neutral which is benefit from both of those and like.
47:15.88
undertheplumbobpod
Ava said reagents are just things that you use for your Sps and you can buy them or you can um, could you grow them. Oh you could craft them.
47:27.88
Ava
Yuker Craft Yeah yeah, you can use some of the muka craft but I don't think you could actually grow them um depending on but there was.
47:44.83
Ava
Me think let me think let me think there was called or there were dragon scales. There were there was some kind of dust likeristic dust there was crystallized moonbeams I remember that um. Something something viper viper viper essence then there was like I've Newt that was a I remember that one because it said like that it was taken from a baby newt and I remember that being very specific and I was like what the fuck are you do with these baby nudes leave the baby nots alone.
48:19.63
undertheplumbobpod
Oh no.
48:23.29
Ava
Um, but these reagents were also considered like neutral good or evil. Um, yeah, so you had to I think you could only get them from the witches like from the high witches but you could. Use them to cast your spells but also to like craft certain items like the thrones but you could also make like lamps and sculptures and stuff. Um, yeah I was I was always a bit a little bit. Um.
48:55.13
undertheplumbobpod
Um, yeah, um.
49:01.25
Ava
Disappointed in in in that specific area because I I just felt like there wasn't enough in and that area like I get it which is where the main focus of the pack. It was still supposed to be about apartments but you only had like a handful of items that you could craft and I don't think.
49:06.58
undertheplumbobpod
Just but them once adopt.
49:20.33
Ava
Spell-wise there was that much to do either.
49:24.32
undertheplumbobpod
It So It So What I'm getting from this and we get our stuff off of sims wick Sims Wiki. It's like basically you've got your alignments. They kind of just do their spells and. Like you can make your stuff and I mean there's familiars like you can do cat familiars um like you don't have I think in like from what I remember from that video this you can choose a different familiar type in sims 3 And then in some or you can.
50:05.38
Ava
Ah, no sims 3 didn't like sim three had a familiar if you had a dog or a cat or ah or like a bird or something you could like turn them into your familiar and you'd get like a boost I think they were near but I don't think.
50:13.87
undertheplumbobpod
Yeah, yeah.
50:20.21
Ava
Sims too had familiars.
50:22.44
undertheplumbobpod
It says. Ah you can have a cat but that's it You can't have like a like in the video I watched they had like a snake even like you can't snake.
50:24.10
Ava
Oh yeah, just a cat.
50:32.46
Ava
Yeah, and some 3 you basically if you had a pet that you could like because the snakes as well I think you could carry around your pocket if you but if you had a pet that you could have on you. Um, you could turn them into a familiar.
50:37.37
undertheplumbobpod
Oh yeah.
50:46.94
Ava
Ah, same with like my what my witch always had a crow like I'd go and I'd go and look if you look for a crow or a raven and you could like they could ride right on your shoulder.
50:48.38
undertheplumbobpod
I Love that.
50:58.91
undertheplumbobpod
And it showed like in the video that the one had a Raven it could have been a crow I don't know the difference but like it like it said um.
51:10.44
undertheplumbobpod
You can have your familiar regardless of relationship level and then it like shows the crow pack at the which.
51:16.59
Ava
Yeah, that is correct. But if you like chose a certain animal to be your familiar. Um, once once they were near you. You would get like a boost as in my familiar is near but that seems 3
51:31.34
undertheplumbobpod
Oh yeah, yeah yeah, and um, like it showed something with like you had like extra time that you could like.
51:49.21
undertheplumbobpod
You were like you had a boost in like spell I guess like it had a mood lit thing I don't know what I forget what they were actually called I it's like moodlets in my brain now because that's all we have is moodlets and it said like 8 hours left of like.
52:00.21
Ava
A.
52:07.41
undertheplumbobpod
Bell casting time where I guess like you'd have a boost or something I don't remember.
52:13.48
Ava
That is possible I can't particularly remember anything from the sims to to be fair, It's been too long since I played it.
52:18.67
undertheplumbobpod
Um.
52:23.31
undertheplumbobpod
Like the last time I played sims to I tried to play when it was free I have like the downloaded thing where they when ea made like everything free from the sim 2 Yeah.
52:36.64
Ava
Oh yeah, they had the deluxe collection of the sims too where they were giving it away for free I have that one? yeah.
52:41.53
undertheplumbobpod
Yeah, and I couldn't play it was too hard now like it was so like since Ford just made everything like handholdy and it's sad, but like yeah.
52:58.10
Ava
I Bull prop testing cheats unabled true that will save your life in sims too that is one of the greatest things ever.
52:59.20
undertheplumbobpod
It was just so handholding. So yep. I Forgot about that What would did that just make them happy was that what it did.
53:12.77
Ava
No I did so much more Maybe we should do an episode on that like what everything that like the testing Cheats cheats do because if I remember I always used to use the testing cheats.
53:22.79
undertheplumbobpod
We should.
53:29.65
Ava
To summon the tombstone of life and death on the tombstone of life and death in itself was like if could do so many things with that. Um, there were certain items that you could summon that would could that cheat with your.
53:31.61
undertheplumbobpod
Oh.
53:46.33
Ava
Like your badges for crafts for like sewing or pottery or whatever. Um, there was clothing rack that you could summon where you could like change into different outfits even if your son was pregnant so it wasn't just that horrible maternity where um.
54:05.37
Ava
Yeah, it was do so much with that like that that in and of itself was magic. Um, but yeah, that was that was kind of like I think the big s sims chew was like a good gateway into um into witches. Basically it was a good start. But like I said it wasn't supposed to be the main focus of a pack This was this was apartments and why they thought like oh you will give them apartments and here we'll throw some witches in it I don't know maybe that was just because you know nightlife The big draw was nightlife but they gave you vampires with it.
54:26.99
undertheplumbobpod
Yes.
54:43.70
Ava
Pets The big draw was pets but they gave you wear wolves with it and I don't know for some reason apartments means witches. Um, but it was good. It was good practice for what was to come and that was for me. Ah, one of the best things. Ever Jen in the sims 3 which was um which is in the sims three supernatural So Good. Oh I'm definitely not a werewolf person but I like them.
55:07.81
undertheplumbobpod
Yes, that pack was I loved it I didn't like the werewolves because I'm not a werewolf person. Um, but they were the.
55:20.79
Ava
Was actually the only time that I played with werewolves because they were super because I always played like a witch and made potions and that it was super handy to have a werewolve because they could go out and collect reagents for you.
55:31.60
undertheplumbobpod
Oh I didn't know about all that.
55:33.92
Ava
Yeah, though, super handy. They could just like you could send them to get specific reagents or to just have them like roam around and collect or random things. They could come back with bugs with metals with gems with like anything you needed. Um, and they'd be like they'd be gone. They'd roam around. They'd do their own thing. You'd queue up a few clicks and they would be gone for the entire night. They'd come back and you'd have like a shit to of ingredients. It was great. Um I Would recommend it. It's great focus on Alchemy. It's super fun.
56:00.37
undertheplumbobpod
That kind of makes me want to play again.
56:09.64
Ava
When I played the rags to riches I always made my sim get into alchemy because you could go to ah Alister's Alexa Alexir and son and sundries and they'd have an alchemy station there and you could find shit around the neighborhood. Like seeds and fruits and whatever and just go there and brew potions and then sell them at the consignment store that was actually a really good way to get some money.
56:46.51
Ava
You're talking but I can't hear you you.
56:48.65
undertheplumbobpod
Oh it was good job I had myself weed um I remember the store but I like when you said that now I remember you could go around and that's where you get your seeds and stuff and you're.
57:03.98
undertheplumbobpod
Ingredients were just laying and I always thought it was a bug but it was like probably there for a reason.
57:07.59
Ava
Yeah, it it also had if I'm not mistaken it had beehives so you could get honey from there and even if you just didn't if you needed some quick cash. Go go get some honey and then sell it from your inventory. Yeah.
57:21.28
undertheplumbobpod
That makes sense I I.
57:26.61
Ava
I Like never did challenges but I did racks to riches in the sims and I was fucking good at it.
57:33.32
undertheplumbobpod
Um, but because it was easier to sell things than it is now. Um.
57:35.41
Ava
That too much. There's a lot of stuff just lying around like there's a diamond just right there in the grass. Okay y'all take it.
57:42.23
undertheplumbobpod
Yeah,, there's like you I don't like how you have to hunt for things now because like you got to like scroll in really like you got to scroll in a lot to look at like oh is this a rock. Or is this actually something where I can pick at it and get a stone out of it.
58:04.52
Ava
You know what pisses me off when it comes to like finding rocks and crystals in the sim sort like I will have 10 rocks lined up and 8 out of those 10 No that moreacting six out of those 10 are gonna be.
58:09.38
undertheplumbobpod
Was up.
58:24.00
undertheplumbobpod
Oh my God I Hate the forking judgment out.
58:24.00
Ava
Fucking treasure maps and those damn treasure maps are gonna give you the Goddam time and capsule with the stupid sim statue. That's it's like sim simmish. So I don't even know what the fuck they are the little statues is like I don't.
58:37.30
undertheplumbobpod
Third look ah sims sims. Why sims my sims that youth.
58:40.50
Ava
I Don't even remember my sims that was it and I'm just like I don't who even played my sims.
58:52.30
undertheplumbobpod
Um, not peanut butter gamer If anyone knows that reference.
58:56.53
Ava
I don't even I it just pisses me off, especially while while I was looking for when I was doing like this plain a spell caster. It was like I'm gonna go I'm gonna go look for crystals 6 out of 10 or fucking treasure maps.
59:11.62
undertheplumbobpod
Yeah, and like what's the point of the treasure maps like just give us the thing don't make us work for it.
59:13.83
Ava
This is completely useless to me.
59:22.86
Ava
Um I did when I did even when I did the um the science career and you went to work and there's like the specific I think it's like second or third day that you worked there 1 of your job tasks that day is like.
59:36.75
undertheplumbobpod
Yeah, yeah, collect them? yeah.
59:39.11
Ava
Collect 10 crystals. It took me all fucking day because I kept getting the damn treasure maps.
59:45.15
undertheplumbobpod
Yeah, and then they don't respond so you're just kind of like stuck with or you got to go to your friend and be like can I have a crystal can I have some metal.
59:48.23
Ava
You just sat there going like Okay, right, Thanks you give me can can you can you please can you give me a over and out friends. Okay, whatever. But yeah, anyway, that's why I prefer the like.
01:00:03.80
undertheplumbobpod
Um.
01:00:06.98
Ava
Spell casting and stuff and magic and alchemy in the sims three because it was so much easier to get reagents. There were so many more different spells and reagents that you could use and there were easier ways to come across them like there was also like 1 thing I always like spent my aspiration points on was that. A thing like an an item that would let you find things on the map can't remember what it's called. But I think it was like 40000 but it could be like it would locate collectibles. Yeah, you could go into the map view.
01:00:40.50
undertheplumbobpod
It's made them sparkle didn't it. Yeah yeah.
01:00:45.13
Ava
And would be like here's one here's one here's one here's one here's one here's one here's one and then when you zoomed in they would sparkle so they'd be easier to find super handy like if I needed a specific gem I could go into map view.
01:00:51.40
undertheplumbobpod
Yeah I Loved that thing.
01:01:02.20
Ava
And immediately see at a glance if it was in the world like if it's spawned or not if I needed one of those rainbow gems I go into Map you was like oh there's one go get it so convenient same with bugs if I needed a specific bug. There's what go get it. You went to Egypt.
01:01:04.68
undertheplumbobpod
Yeah.
01:01:10.19
undertheplumbobpod
I Loved that of.
01:01:20.40
Ava
Specifically for a bug that you needed just go like whoop turn it on look at the map others one go get it.
01:01:21.68
undertheplumbobpod
Jesus.
01:01:28.79
undertheplumbobpod
Yep, now you got to just be like this might be a rock. This might be yeah, that's like that's why I don't like that camping pack because like you got to like.
01:01:31.10
Ava
Just wander wander around the woods and hope you find something.
01:01:44.40
undertheplumbobpod
There's all the trees So like their overlay is like yeah.
01:01:45.30
Ava
It It gives me a headache trying to fight Cucy I literally have to like see it like this am my screen and go like is that it is is that is that plant part of the part of the the surroundings or kid I Harvest what is that.
01:01:54.39
undertheplumbobpod
Was this.
01:02:04.94
Ava
Is is that bug decorational or can I collect it I don't know it's just a's annoying.
01:02:12.33
undertheplumbobpod
Um, I'm going to go through trivia real quick from sims 2 and then we will fully move on to sims three because that's the best 1 Um, so and trivia so which is can.
01:02:17.40
Ava
Yes.
01:02:26.54
undertheplumbobpod
Be combined with other life states so you could have like a witch zombie. Um, you could have your ebony Raven ah you could have a witch vampire. Um.
01:02:33.56
Ava
No no Apps fucking Loot Not no, no, no, no no.
01:02:45.64
undertheplumbobpod
Teens regardless of aspiration. Do not get any wants or fears that are what's related the want trees pertaining to becoming Wetches or being cured of it. Do not include teenage life stage. And this makes it possible to turn non-knowledge sims into witches and possibly accept this life state even into adulthood. Um, and although witches and good witches and evil witches have a rivalry. It is possible for them to become friends. Um. Good and evil witches can summon spectral assistance and evil witches assistant will fight a specified person and a good wit's assistant will clean up around the house but neutral witches don't have this ability so you're evil whichitch. She can't clean her house. But. She can curse a person apparently um I mean I would become a good widge just because I hate cleaning.
01:03:37.15
Ava
I Mean that's fair.
01:03:44.19
Ava
Yeah, to be fair. So would I.
01:03:49.60
undertheplumbobpod
Um, good which is spectral assistant will sometimes drink tap water when left with nothing else to clean or repair what that doesn't make any sense So it's like I can't.
01:04:01.45
Ava
Didn't bone Hill to do that to I guess she didn't have anything to clean. She'd go like straight to the bar I mean.
01:04:04.20
undertheplumbobpod
I never played with her I feel that um, drinking too much water will generate a puddle so they pee themselves gross. Um. Witches can visit any secret lot regardless of their alignment There's no restriction for a witch from one alignment to go to the other alignments secret lot. There have been some cases where 2 high witches. There were 2 high witches of each alignment that's because the whole game. Has 2 default high wedches of each alignment. Okay, that's a weird trivia. Um, whichches can appear on player own business lots while the player is running them and you will usually just cast. Beautiful. Oh my gosh um butificus or corruptus locusts some in their familiars and leave after a short time. However, a player can assess their interest and show their wares even start earn stars for them.
01:05:15.77
undertheplumbobpod
If a player room business has electrono ticket machine the highwitch or warlock will have to pay to stay on the lot and will leave without casting a spell if he or she is not interested that can be useful if the player does not want an evil witch to cause vermin to appear. Um, if the witch paid for a ticket. The player can make her stay by asking her to join in a poker game. The Highitch's motives accept hygiene or static and she will continue doing her activities for a long time which will provide the business owner with income and loyalty. Um test it. Teleporting is the only spell that doesn't require any reagents and if a sims eyebrow and facial hair are a different color from their hair their eyebrows and facial hair will change to the color of that sims hair that seems like a random fact period. You can cut that one out just. Um, the term highwitch might be a reference to the rule doll book the witches which features an evil grand highitch who was portrayed by Angelica Houston in the 1990 movie that movie scared the shit out of me as a child me too.
01:06:24.91
Ava
It traumatized me yeah know and then so when she squashed that child I was just like why am I allowed to watch this I'm 6
01:06:29.56
undertheplumbobpod
When she transforms and then she makes him turn into a rat that movie scared me.
01:06:39.69
undertheplumbobpod
And it was actively on the Disney channel for me as a kid and I was like oh I'm just watching this on the Disney Channel at two PM on a Saturday yeah.
01:06:44.74
Ava
Yep yep.
01:06:51.59
Ava
Like the worst part for me was when that kid turned into the brat or the mouse and I was my parents were just let me watch it I was like crying like it I was 5 or six I was very I was very little. There's crying eyes up. My mom was like what the fuck just.
01:06:56.00
undertheplumbobpod
Yeah.
01:07:09.40
Ava
Yeah, pointing at the screen and sobbing and she was like yeah I don't think you should wash this anymore.
01:07:14.21
undertheplumbobpod
I was not I was traumatized by it by the fact that like it was very visual like things were very visual in that movie like I remember I think they. There was a scene where they it was maybe at the beginning and that's why she turned him into a router a mouse or whatever where they all had their stuff taken off and and that was a very visceral visual scene for me.
01:07:36.61
Ava
Yeah, that was like yeah.
01:07:47.29
Ava
Which is probably also another like you know like embracing the Ugly evil which trope.
01:07:49.53
undertheplumbobpod
But I.
01:07:54.26
undertheplumbobpod
Yeah, and but well I think that's what it was was like we can finally be ourselves because we're we look like this and then we have to hide ourselves when we go out in public and.
01:08:00.98
Ava
Because. Now. I don't know it was super scary movie and I never want to see it again. I ado a jell Angelica Houston but my god that movie was just terrifying terrifying.
01:08:11.90
undertheplumbobpod
And and.
01:08:19.60
undertheplumbobpod
And then they remade it with Anne Hat Hathaway yeah Anne Hathaway which why did we need to yeah like last year or the year before
01:08:27.50
Ava
Um, they did oh my god they did in 2020 oh my god that's terrifying well they stuck to the classic formula of traumatizing a whole.
01:08:34.35
undertheplumbobpod
Yeah, is mean.
01:08:41.20
Ava
Generation of little kids Jesus Christ
01:08:44.76
undertheplumbobpod
I didn't watch it because I was like ah I already seen this This is the same.
01:08:46.98
Ava
No I don't need I don't need the extra trauma. Thank you I'm still paying the Therapy bills for the previous ones.
01:08:53.23
undertheplumbobpod
I don't need a to be scared of Anne Hathaway now
01:08:58.30
Ava
I will never watch the princess diaries again. That's that's amazing anyway.
01:09:06.88
undertheplumbobpod
Um, so now let's move on to the good sims 3 and I you I will let you go on about the sims three I'll be right back.
01:09:11.40
Ava
Yep, so that was that was my favorite.
01:09:19.79
Ava
All I can go on about the simms 3 you hear me go on about the simms 3 witches. So basically witches came back in the sims 3 supernatural as 1 of 4 playable life states. Um, so witches could obviously cast spells and charms at curses. They could better their own lives or the lives of others or they could cause ruin and mischief because obviously um in this specific pack. Both genders were called witches in sims two. It was witch and warlock and sims 3 male female. Didn't matter which as it should be um, so if you wanted to be a witch. You could buy the bottled which is brew from an alchemy shop or have someone make it um or you can make them in crazy them. But um, yeah. I mean were funny thing you could if you just want to start off as a witch you could. But um, you could also drink the bottled witches brece so you also had a chance to be born a witch if 1 or both parents are a witch but children couldn't use their powers until they became teenagers. Um, however. The ability to make their toys disappear will let the player know whether the sim is or isn't one. But if you really want to check just look at the sims relationship panel um like of 1 of the parents or a sibling or whatever if it had like I think yellow border around it it would they would be which.
01:10:52.15
Ava
Um, so so yeah, that was super fun. They didn't have any ah special features in their appearance like vampires would have like their red eyes and the fangs the werewolves would look like you know werewolves. Ah, the fairies had the wings but a witch would just.
01:11:05.37
undertheplumbobpod
And.
01:11:11.65
Ava
Look normal. You didn't have any any extraordinary features. Um I mean you could wear the robes and the pointy hats if you really wanted to go you know walk down the street scream hey I'm a witch but you didn't have to um once you. So if ah if the witch is born a witch and they become a teen um and they become ah an adult they ah automatically receive a wand the most basic 1 um, but I think once you. Become a witch I think you actually had to buy 1 and but I'm not sure I always made mining cars. Um, the kids can't use magic until they become older. Um but toddlers will like I said occasionally make their choices appear which is fun. Um, one of the. Basic abilities that you have that you can actually use to up your spellcrafting skills is to play with magic and conjure Apple abilities. Um the conju apple materializes an apple in your inventory which is ah super convenient if you need a quick s sneaky snack. Although I think if you ah I think there was a possibility to fuck it up and get like a poison Apple dead that was that that wasn't I think you just get sick if you ated but I am pretty sure that there was a you did get a poison apple.
01:12:34.33
undertheplumbobpod
The the video that I watched before this like you can also conjure a poison Apple like just period and like it showed them? Yes, yes, it was and um they like.
01:12:43.41
Ava
Um I think only if your sin was evil yeah, if your sin was evil. But yeah, but the quality of the Apple I think depends on your magic skill.
01:12:51.19
undertheplumbobpod
And to sleep.
01:12:57.70
undertheplumbobpod
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:13:00.65
Ava
Yeah, um, you can also ah duel with other witches. Um, your skill will determine the winner and if you win you'll get a positive Moodle it if you lose will get a negative moodlet. It'll last for at least 3 hours um you can also you can also get into a draw. Ah, which will get you a neutral moodlet. But it's also a way to practice your spell casting skill um, all spell casting abilities require a wand so it's not like the sims for where you can do it wandless. Or with a wand you if you want to cast magic in the sub 3 you need a wand this was very much still like the Harry Potter Era of witches um so you didn't need a wand you could however, fork over 20000 lifetime happiness points to get the magic hands lifetime awards. And then you didn't need a wand you can just you can use your hands to cast spells and you could also cast them at a lower magic power cost without failing. So if you're very much into like playing a witch and using a lot of magic. That's definitely something to invest in. Um. Which is always use a broom as their default long distance mode of transportation. So instead of like pulling a bike or a car out of their pocket. They would break out their trusty broom even if they don't have 1 in their inventory. Um.
01:14:30.72
Ava
Just like with a bike. There's a junior in a senior model for the children. It's the zoom sweeper junior Magic Broom and the older sims will use the zoom sweeper classic. Um, but there's also like I think there's a broom called the pegasus which I think is like a nod to the Nimbus from Harry Potter um
01:14:38.78
undertheplumbobpod
Um.
01:14:49.53
Ava
But yeah, those were super fun. There's also a broom writing arena where you can do like trick flying which was super fun. It kind of looked like a quitage pitch. So if you wanted to pretend you were playing quitage you could um yeah, that was ah that was super cool. Ah, like I said if your parents are which. There is a chance. You're the the offspring will be witch I think there's a 50% chance ah per parent and if both parents are which is ah offspring will one hundred percent be a witch um, a clone of a witch sim will also be a witch. So there's that but unlike all the other life states just like there aren't any like external extra features. They also don't have an extended lifespan like werewolves fairies and vampires all live longer than a general simba which is don't. I need to catch my breath because my bronchitis is still in full swing.
01:15:50.68
undertheplumbobpod
You're fine so you can't ah be Sabrina the teenage witch because I believe like the old Sabrina not the new weird one? Um, where she was like I think half which and then like she like the witch is apparently. Maybe it was the warlocks that lived like so no, it was the wedches because her aunts were like really old and they were from the middle ages. You know you're having your hair well Harry Potter even they were like centuries old right? You know.
01:16:14.57
Ava
Yeah. I Mean No I think dumbdore was just one of those exceptions they didn't have like naturally long Lifespans. But what you could do is like really get into alchemy and then get craft like the lixor of youth I'm Andnna be young forever.
01:16:26.49
undertheplumbobpod
Oh yes.
01:16:33.75
undertheplumbobpod
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, so this is a lot taking from like the Harry Potter age of witches. It sounds like.
01:16:38.78
Ava
Um.
01:16:43.85
Ava
Yeah, um, there were also some twilight ah like nods to twilight with like the vampire and werewolves fucking sparkly vampires. Um, no, um, but the witches.
01:16:47.13
undertheplumbobpod
You know? yeah.
01:16:54.88
undertheplumbobpod
Hell yeah.
01:17:01.24
Ava
Also had a magic power meter which depleted every time they used their magic and their magic power would regenerate every time or you could use an elixir I think it was called Essence of Magic ah to replenish it instantly. It was basically a manopotion just like pop a manapotion and for you're good to go.
01:17:16.89
undertheplumbobpod
Yeah, you ready all.
01:17:20.73
Ava
Ah, during the full moon. Ah, which is would spend 50% less magic power and cast it a 25% more successful spell rate. So they also did have like like most supernaturals they had a connection to the moon.
01:17:33.50
Ava
Ah, if the magic power meter was reduce to 50% they would gain a neutral moodlet which was um, magic power waning and if it's reducer 25 the which would gain the magic power critical moodlet which was a negative moodlet and when it was completely depleted. They would get the magic power depleted negative moodlet which would prevent the magic power from regenerating for 6 hours unless you take an elixir so one of the things you definitely want to do is combine your ah witch sim with the alchemy ah professional or so or skill basically and make sure you always have some ah elixir. Available. Um, they always say they also have like several passive abilities like bonuses. Um, they have unique social interactions. They can brag about their broom writing and enthusia about magic. Um, they. Frequently have the playing with magic wish. So if you wants some quick lifetime happiness points do that they have a boost to learning the alchemy skill if. You're a witch. So if you want to so that's an but basically another. Um, encouragement to combine alchemy and which sims because they learn it faster. Um, according to the game tips which is get a special discount when purchasing items from the consignment register so like ingredients if they own a cat or a minor pet like.
01:19:03.17
Ava
A bird or a snake. It'll give them the animal familiar moodlet which will increase the skill gain rate towards the spell cast Hidden skill because spell casting is a hidden skill and it would lower their magic power Depletion. So. It's always good when having your pet or your your cat or your mine your pet with you? um. They're very good at defending themselves from ah tricks that are played on them by other cults. So like when a ferry performs the fairy trick on a witch.. There's a good chance. It'll backfire on the Ferry instead of the witch which is fun. The fairy will then receive a negative moodlet depending on the trick pulled.
01:19:39.50
undertheplumbobpod
I Miss Fairies I Wish heard I Also like like to.
01:19:40.80
Ava
So dumb don't mess with witches bitches. Um, when you're at level 5 with the spell casting skill the witches will begin performing more advanced animations when using magic which is nice. Um. And there's basically always like a yellow magic trail emanating from their wand and once they're a higher level. It'll become magenta with blue particles which is very pretty um they cannot clone themselves with a clone voucher lifetime reward. there's that so there's all
01:20:08.47
undertheplumbobpod
Have tokes.
01:20:14.32
Ava
Whole bunch of spells that witches can cast and they're categorized under charms spells and Curses magic power is required to cast all of these and each spell has their own like magic usage. They also have a chance to fail which can backfire on the caster. Um, you can. Decrease the the chance of it backfiring by using higher quality wands or higher spell casting skills like your wands would have um, different aspects to it like either it would use more magic power but we'd be less likely to fail or it'd be. Ah, medium chance at failing but use less magic power, etc, etc. You should It was like you you kind of had to pick What was more important for you or either makeup for the um drawbacks of your wand with like lifetime awards or something.
01:21:09.93
Ava
Which was Fun. You could sort of it really made you have to think about which warned you were going to get and what you were going to prioritize. Did you always want. It werent your spell to succeed well then you you wouldn't be able to cast as many spells because you would use more magic power etc or if you wanted it to be. Really stingy with your magic Power. You could do that but you had a higher chance of your spells failing so you really had to like yeah to look at the stats which is cool. Yeah.
01:21:30.38
undertheplumbobpod
So they were pretty too like some of them were really pretty like the blue one.
01:21:40.78
Ava
You had like a marble one. You had an old wooden one you had like a gold one there were there were they were really nice and you could still you could you could customize them which because you know the color wheel that we all no one Love yeah, create a style. We miss that? Um, okay.
01:21:50.19
undertheplumbobpod
I For oh yeah.
01:21:59.57
Ava
So there's charms right? Um, so there are a total of 20 spells and some of these are terms and charms are basically ah that those are spells that will benefit the target. Um.
01:22:02.68
undertheplumbobpod
Yeah.
01:22:15.90
Ava
They it was also possible that witches could autoymously cast them on themselves. You had the good luck charm. You had love charm. You had Hunger Ferris charm a bladder charm hygiene charm and sunlight charm. Ah the sunlight charm. Would ah combat negative moodlets and also cure zombies. Yeah, it would also give you like immunity to the pestilence curse and protection from vampires if you cast it on werewolf in their werewolf form. It willvert them to human form. Um.
01:22:33.12
undertheplumbobpod
Some be suck I'm sorry.
01:22:47.91
Ava
And if you cast it on vampires. They would get in the moodlit too much sun. So there's that I don't think they died no but you would have to get them out of the sun and into their coffin I think because it would basically have the um.
01:22:50.22
undertheplumbobpod
Oh and they died didn't they.
01:23:04.50
Ava
The same effect I Think as leaving the mountain the sun for too long.
01:23:06.33
undertheplumbobpod
They didn't die. They were the ones that didn't die from too much sun because they were based off a twilight right.
01:23:12.57
Ava
No, they could still die from too much sun but there was a potion that you can make that was basically a vampire sunscreen vampiric sunscreen and it would make them sparkle and the first thing I did when I found it was install a mod that made the sparkles go away says it.
01:23:23.19
undertheplumbobpod
Ah, ah.
01:23:28.34
undertheplumbobpod
Her.
01:23:32.16
Ava
Dumbest thing I've ever seen anyway. Ah, next, there's curses. Um, there was a totification curse a haunting curse a hunger and thirst curse a bladder curse a hygiene curse and then that pestilence curse. Um, it would basically make you sick. And if it wasn't cured within 24 hours it would cause the pestilence plague moodlet which was a minus thirty moodlet and it would last for two days and within the latter half of the pestilence plague moodlet they would have regular coughing so ah fits and basically just be horribly horribly horribly sick.
01:24:04.82
undertheplumbobpod
You and like that.
01:24:08.99
Ava
Um, now. Ah so once the either of the moodlets are cured either with the sunlight charm a cure or a potent cure elixir um, they would get the immunity moodlet which would make them immune to the pestilence curse for two days but yeah if you want to split the. The plague around the world. You could spread plagues. Um.
01:24:29.79
undertheplumbobpod
I Remember the tones because like I that unfortunately happened to me too often and you just have like a toad guy with the toad head just walking around your town. It was gross.
01:24:40.47
Ava
Yeah, just toadhead. Yeah yeah I remember that um, there's also the spells One of them is bewitching rain which you cast on the weatherstone and the weatherstone is a stone that would appear Around. Um. The world and would require the sims 3 seasons and it would basically cause that their sims to go crazy and do the rain dance and there were other like the other life states could interact with this stone and cause different effects around the world which was super fun. Um, you could yeah Contra Apple Ah Evil which is good. Conra Poison Apple There's a conversion ritual fire Blast Ah Ice Blast Magical upgrade which I used a lot. It would upgrade an object. It doesn't count towards the handiness skill. However, it if you have a high spell casting skill. It would.
01:25:26.80
undertheplumbobpod
Yes.
01:25:34.45
Ava
It would upgrade things faster I always use the Mumy sprinklers which is fun. Um,, there's the restoration ritual and basically that cleans up the lot. It's cast on but it will not put toys away or make beds. It also repairs broken objects and disarms pricks. But only if they're set up by children and teenagers. If you use a spell Well there are leftovers in any refrigerator in any refrigerator it will cost them cause them to Spoils. So Keep that in mind. Um if drinks from the mixology skill are present even if they haven't gone bad. Those will be cleaned up too and if the spell cleans a toilet. There is a chance of it breaking I don't know why.
01:26:10.30
undertheplumbobpod
Sad.
01:26:13.36
Ava
It just does. Yeah um, and then the last one was the reanimation ritual which will ah bring back a target sim as a zombie but it doesn't work on children's graves.
01:26:23.45
undertheplumbobpod
That Yeah, we don't need Zombie children.
01:26:27.76
Ava
No, absolutely not like little ghost children are already scare the shit out of me I Definitely don't need them as the undead. Um, no I mean in general in like horror tropes yeah.
01:26:32.28
undertheplumbobpod
Oh I didn't know kids could be ghosts I forgot about that Oh in movies? Yeah yeah.
01:26:44.15
Ava
Yeah, no I don't I don't need any of that. Thank you this a big note for me. Um, okay so trivia there is apparently a reference to the sorcer's apprentice you know I think that's the film with a nicholas cage when you raise your skill to level 9 Um.
01:27:01.48
undertheplumbobpod
Oh and is that not the one from the the fantasia didn't they like Nicholas Cage like make a live action version of that.
01:27:03.51
Ava
I haven't I haven't seen the film So I don't.
01:27:14.24
Ava
I don't know that I know there's a nicholas gage movie and at 1 point they're in chinatown I don't my mom watched it once I I don't I don't remember much of it. But I haven't seen it I just.
01:27:29.45
undertheplumbobpod
The.
01:27:31.80
Ava
There's there're not a lot of Nick cage movies I actually like I like national treasure and that's but it um I saw a city of Angels once and that kind of ruined it for me.
01:27:42.22
undertheplumbobpod
Um, it's got the 1 guy too that sounds like a duck when he talks but he's kind of cute and.
01:27:45.98
Ava
I Don't know who that is.
01:27:49.63
undertheplumbobpod
He does the voice of the guy from the dragon show He there's so many dragon shows that's terrible. It's the cartoon.
01:27:56.54
Ava
The guy from the Dragon show.
01:28:05.48
Ava
Okay, hang on hang on the sorcer's apprentice here we go ah J barashell.
01:28:07.55
undertheplumbobpod
James something.
01:28:19.24
undertheplumbobpod
That's his name. Yes, he sounds like a duck when he talks but he's got you.
01:28:23.22
Ava
I don't yeah but it's from it's from 2010 so it's been a while. Um.
01:28:26.79
undertheplumbobpod
Oh yeah, I never saw it I just remember people on Youtube talking about how terrible it is but I like him but it's also a nick cage movie. It's not going to be too great.
01:28:37.81
Ava
Yeah, it's not.. It's not Great. It's not great. Um, So there's that so I don't know what the reference is because I've never seen the film. Ah, witches can cause untimely deaths to other sims though, not directly. Ah, if the witch casts a fireballs Blast Spell the Target sim will either be singed or be on fire and we all know what happens if you don't take care of that shit real quick. Um, alternatively. They could cast it. Ah, onto.
01:29:03.40
undertheplumbobpod
Um.
01:29:10.89
Ava
Ah, the floor of a household as many times their magic power allows so you could basically set the whole gaff on fire. And yeah, again, we all know what happens then um, sims with the evil trade. Actually you know get a giggle out of it which is kind of rude. Um. And sims will still get money from fire loss even though nothing may be lost in the fire that a sim casts. So if you go to someone else's house set their shit on Fire. You can claim the insurance Money. So do with that. Do it that way you will um.
01:29:41.22
undertheplumbobpod
Oh yeah.
01:29:48.80
Ava
Ah, which can cause death using the hunger or thirst curse for vampires thirst in this case so the hunger or thirst Bart will then decay and can cause death. So if you bring it down too much. They could die. Um, also there seems to be like I said. The glitch related to the fire blast where the indemnity granted by the insurance after a fire could reach ridiculously high amountunds going as far as 300000 if set fire was the result of the spell even if no objects were destroyed so. You could basically exploit this and make like a ridiculous amount of money. Um, the which is in the sims three are the only version of which is that cannot teleport in the sims series. Um, if their spell casting skills high witches can use their magic to light up and extinguish the fire ofplace.
01:30:43.96
Ava
They can also use their magic to extinguish fires which is super convenient if you want to you know set shit on fire claim the insurance money and then put it out. Um, yeah, there was also um before Supernatural was even announced. There was the ability to cast.
01:30:50.72
undertheplumbobpod
Yeah, good job.
01:31:02.98
Ava
Bells if you wanted to go to the sim store and buy lady Raven dancer goths book of spells for 500 somepoints um the book itself in game costs 72000 simolans um, and if you had another 600 somepoints to dole out. You could also buy Lord Vladimir's magic cauldron. Um, they could also be bought together in a set um either the more magic set or in the compilation of January Two Thousand and twelve ah I'm old okay um
01:31:34.16
undertheplumbobpod
Yeah I don't remember a compilation but that the.
01:31:39.57
Ava
Yeah, they used to bring compilation packs out for like specific months. Yeah, it, You could just basically buy the entirety of items that were released that month for like less simpoints than it would. Cost you to buy everything separately they did that but like much much later.
01:32:02.21
undertheplumbobpod
Well get 2012 so it was on its way out at that point.
01:32:08.53
Ava
Pretty much. Yeah, um I think there was supernatural and after supernatural there was island paradise and then into the future. So it was basically yeah, there was 2 more packs.
01:32:18.90
undertheplumbobpod
The future. Yeah.
01:32:23.81
Ava
After that one. So Yeah I think it was like nearing its end but that was the best The best witches in the sims franchise which was the sims 3 and why because there was an entire. Fucking expansion dedicated purely to them and the other live states. So here's what you can do if you focus on something.
01:32:45.98
undertheplumbobpod
Yep, and then and here's what happens if you don't focus on anything and you just kind of thirssh it into make money which is the sims for spellcasters. Well let's making magic have we done a hole making magic.
01:33:02.90
Ava
I have.
01:33:02.70
undertheplumbobpod
Episode or okay, so then yeah, um, we're gonna go through it real quick because we've already done an episode on it. Um, so basically theyre a life stay Um, and.
01:33:17.30
Ava
Oh you mean the sims for Realm of Madrick. Yeah I think we did an episode on that I think we did a review. Yeah yeah.
01:33:22.95
undertheplumbobpod
Oh yeah, yeah I get them like I cannot keep them straight the titles of any of these um I'm gonna double check real quick just so like just cut that part out if we don't have it I will.
01:33:40.12
Ava
Um.
01:33:40.48
undertheplumbobpod
And 2 seconds um she has a list in the Google drive. Um.
01:33:55.93
undertheplumbobpod
I'm checking that episode in the making master list.
01:34:09.40
undertheplumbobpod
It's Roman magic right? Yeah, okay, so we're gonna go back. Um, just delete everything that I said about sims for until we're here. Um, so. I'm going to go quickly through the sims rum of magic our social bunny number eleven we went into a little bit more depth. Um, that's going to be like episode 43 if you well I mean social bunny eleven. Going to be after episode 42 um, it's called witches bitches. Um, so let's go back to.
01:35:00.50
undertheplumbobpod
I'm fixing my screen real quick. Okay spellcasters are a life state. Um, they are from glimmer Brook um, you go so you can.
01:35:16.84
undertheplumbobpod
4 sheersome to be ah spelcaster and casts or you talk to one of the spcasters. You've got el faba um was through hotman. Yeah, what's the hot one Morgan Ember that's with the hot one I love them.
01:35:29.80
Ava
Simian Silver sweater.
01:35:36.54
Ava
Yep.
01:35:37.20
undertheplumbobpod
Um, and you talk to 1 of them and then you can like start learning from there. Um.
01:35:42.36
Ava
Yeah, you have to go find motes of magic first which is basically just go around click on them pick them up.
01:35:50.96
undertheplumbobpod
Oh I forgot about that. Um, so you makes you have spells and you concoct potions. Um the child can be a spcaster as long as one of their parents is a spellcaster. And like there's a fifty fifty chance that your kid won't be a spellcaster if it's like a like 1 of them isn't one of them isn't this children though they will not start to um, manifest their abilities until their teen years. Um.
01:36:28.23
undertheplumbobpod
So a normal phone.
01:36:37.10
undertheplumbobpod
So the rightte of ascension. That's when you talk to the swellcaster and this swellcaster turns you into a spellcaster Also um or you can go back and you can have them turn you into a um regular person.
01:36:42.17
Ava
You.
01:36:51.20
Ava
Yeah, the right of annulment I think it's called.
01:36:52.79
undertheplumbobpod
Again, um dissillusion to dissolution. Yeah, um, and then there's a sims that are.
01:36:57.27
Ava
Or yeah desolution.
01:37:11.34
undertheplumbobpod
Created or turned into spellcast or start off with no bloodline trait but their kids are given a weak bloodline and then if you keep passing it down your Bloodline. You'll end up with an ancient bloodline and like it'll go from like weak. Too strong and then to ancient and um spcasters have normal needs just like any other sim but they have like a globe on theirs where it has like how much magic it is if you've played Werewolves. You know what? it looks like um. There's like the orb and like if the orb breaks then I think that's when it's like they get so they get like they fuck up all their spells right? That's what happens when it breaks. Yeah, it hurts.
01:38:04.31
Ava
Ah, you get cursed I think you could get cursed.
01:38:07.42
undertheplumbobpod
Yeah, so then like your curses like all your spells will be cursed still backfire and we have a few curses. We have a curse of awkward embraces which is every hug that I ever give to people because I don't like hugs. Ah, um.
01:38:26.88
undertheplumbobpod
Sims will just like the curse will randomly force the sim to awkwardly hug a random sim which cannot be canceled however sims will usually just accept it. Um, you have infectious laughter where like they'll just laugh all the time and you. It will either be forced to stop or will continue and laugh after finishing the reaction um repulsiveness your interaction social interactions start to fail um scrambled spells. That's always going to cause you to have negative. Um, your. Spells are always going to fail and have a negative reaction. Um, Cursive Inclinscible Stench means even when you shower you still smell curse of an uncontrollable charge as your magical charge bar is going to go all over the place. No matter what.
01:39:23.34
undertheplumbobpod
Um, the curse of unwarranted Hostility. The sims will be targeted for insults or fights with other random sims the curse of the dual list nearby spellcasters will provoke your sim into Duels which will be much harder to win by your sim and rewards will be of low quality. Also you can deal with the magic the spellcasters when you go to they have like a knockoff hogwarts basically and you have like your store where you buy your wands and stuff and then you have your.
01:39:52.25
Ava
Yeah I think they based it off a diagon alley because like some of the stuff is like crioket and stuff. But the fact that it's just a store front and you can't go with it inside kind of makes me sad.
01:40:01.17
undertheplumbobpod
Yeah.
01:40:07.89
undertheplumbobpod
Yeah, like the wedding thing like you is it a rabbit hole like the wedding or you just like go up there and buy it like at the Selva Durata I don't Oh yeah, um.
01:40:17.72
Ava
Well yeah, though with the with the market stalls and stuff.
01:40:25.38
undertheplumbobpod
And then there's the curse of the night wraith where you have a night wraith. Just follow you around at night and it's really creepy. Um I haven't had it but um, whiny brit did like.
01:40:33.67
Ava
I've never had that one before and I don't care to find out.
01:40:42.57
undertheplumbobpod
Can you woohoo the night race and the answer is no. You cannot I'm pretty sure.
01:40:47.52
Ava
Wow I didn't even think of that The fact that there are people whose minds. This question has crossed kind of burries me a little bit but I mean fair enough.
01:40:59.14
undertheplumbobpod
She's tried to woohoo all Ah, she's she does challenges where she like tries to woohoo everything hi dorian. Yeah.
01:41:06.49
Ava
Hi Dorian you little spooky spook you're my little night Ray huh because you'll wake me up at 4 a m scratching at the quast door for no parent reason.
01:41:12.33
undertheplumbobpod
Great.
01:41:20.86
undertheplumbobpod
Maybe he sees the night wraith and he's trying to protect you.
01:41:29.26
Ava
Um I caught it is that it'm so you're trying to tell me you sure Ray is my buddy here. We.
01:41:34.65
undertheplumbobpod
Um, he's your familiar and there are 4 types of magics that spellcasters can learn. It's practical mischief untamed in alchemy. They're not mutually exclusive so you can learn more than one style at once you can learn up to 24 spells and 15 potions which can be logged into spellbook. Um, your items you have spellbooks magic brooms and wands which. Why can you buy a magic broom but we can't use the broom to clean the house. What? um.
01:42:10.54
Ava
I Don't even want to talk about it anymore I'm so so mad still so mad.
01:42:19.99
undertheplumbobpod
Oh and then in the sims 3 you could use a ah what do you? What are those things called I have to pull it up was this.
01:42:23.12
Ava
They even have a damn mop they hold them up. Don't understand.
01:42:36.27
Ava
Yes, like in ocus bocus. Oh okay.
01:42:36.60
undertheplumbobpod
Vacuum you could write on a vacuum like um, yeah, well Sabrina also like the old show she had at one point there was a vacuum but I'm sure that they got that off a hocus focus too.
01:42:54.81
undertheplumbobpod
Um, and then we've got leveling. Um, there's levels level one rank is apprentice rank 2 neophyte rank 3 Acolyte rank 4 adept rank 5 master rank 6 virtuoso. Um. And you'll get experienced by being mentored practicing magic reading spell or potion tomes or having summoned a familiar sorry um and then you're familiars I think. You've got like a I'm trying to go to it I know you can have cats for sure.
01:43:39.80
Ava
Yeah, if you if you have a cat or a dog you can turn them into your familiar. But otherwise you have to buy those orbs and there's like a 6 and owl. There's a Raven there's a bunny of some kind. There's um yeah.
01:43:44.41
undertheplumbobpod
Yeah, Okay so. I mean I think and that's really cute but like the skull looks kind of cheesy. It reminds me. Do you know the band the mystery skulls or something.
01:43:58.42
Ava
I Don't know I think it's got a cute.
01:44:05.45
Ava
No.
01:44:08.87
undertheplumbobpod
It reminds me of that if anyone else might know the reference I Only know one song of theirs. Um I don't want to go into too much detail because we did a whole episode on this. But um.
01:44:26.89
Ava
They are there. They do things. Um.
01:44:28.54
undertheplumbobpod
Yeah go listen to our old episodes bring back some good listening days. Um, and then there's um, like I said you can duel. There's a friendly dual a heated duel. You can dual for artifacts like ah you won't lose your wand or broom or familiars or anything. But yeah. Um, and then you can dual for knowledge where you can learn a spell that your opponent knows and you can dual for ingredients where they give you an ingredient and the magic roam like we said before um, that was my bad I don't know Harry Potter Lore very well so I'm like hogwarts is everything.
01:45:16.70
undertheplumbobpod
Um, I guess that's like Diagon alley like where you can buyer all your stuff and there's only 1 piece of trivia for this. Um, and that is that if you have paranormal stuff all casters have a natural talent in.
01:45:17.81
Ava
Yeah, yeah.
01:45:32.76
undertheplumbobpod
Learning the medium skill faster. Yeah, So once again sims were not linking packs together that they could have very well linked together.
01:45:36.87
Ava
That's literally it. That's the only park. Ah.
01:45:47.90
Ava
Know No ah they can ah get an extra buck out of it I suppose it's better that way.
01:45:53.59
undertheplumbobpod
Yeah, but they're going to tell you that it is because they want things to be able to be played separately and you don't lose any game experience. But.
01:46:07.31
Ava
4 words my first pet stuffed.
01:46:13.42
undertheplumbobpod
Which was the literal demon seed of okay now that I think about it I can't say which is worse for me because I Hate Star Wars But as the general consensus. I don't know which is worse bought to or my first stuff back my first but.
01:46:36.19
Ava
I would still say my first pets because at least but 2 can be played on its own and all you need is the base game whereas if you want to play the entirety of my first pet stuff need cats and dogs only otherwise you'll only just get half a pack.
01:46:46.44
undertheplumbobpod
That's you yeah.
01:46:55.11
Ava
That's bullshit I'm sorry that's that's literally. The only reason I will never buy that pack. Don't even gift it to me I won't install it. So like this would be the equivalent the equivalent of like once I I had a friend like I have a friend who really wanted me to play red Dead redemption.
01:46:56.54
undertheplumbobpod
That's true. Yeah, we will just burn it to the ground like.
01:47:13.67
undertheplumbobpod
And.
01:47:14.67
Ava
It came out and she got it for me for my birthday after like pestering me for years to play it. She got it. Um, new ah in like in plastic and everything got me the copy. She's like happy birthday knowing that I told her.
01:47:22.10
undertheplumbobpod
Yeah.
01:47:33.68
Ava
Over and over again that I didn't want to play this was like this was 2008 right I still have the game. It's still in plastic.
01:47:34.34
undertheplumbobpod
So that's a like not a great name.
01:47:46.20
undertheplumbobpod
Oh my God You can probably sell that for a good penny at this point Oh because it was the gift. Yeah, that's true.
01:47:49.81
Ava
I Have never played it I don't want to I don't want to give it away because it was still a gift and I appreciate her getting me something but out of I don't like I don't want to say spi bit out of stubbornness at this point where I literally told her like I will it doesn't interest me I don't want to play it.. It's so Good. It's so good like I don't care. This is not the type of game that I like to play So I'm not going to play it and considering I told her I wasn't going to play it and play it I will I will never play it and this is just like me being incredibly stubborn right Now. So.
01:48:25.20
undertheplumbobpod
So out of curiosity is it that it's the west or is it like you don't like games like that like do you like gta or like you just don't like.
01:48:35.28
Ava
I Ah prefer games that let me play as a female protagonist. Yeah, and like I get some games are like oh but the story is meant to be told for guys like yeah, okay, but I.
01:48:40.10
undertheplumbobpod
Oh yeah, that makes sense because we don't.
01:48:52.80
Ava
Don't really care about it then because I don't I can't get attached to the main character as much I don't know I've never it's something that I've I've I've always either wanted the choice to play as a girl or just play as a girl there are some games that I've played where the protagonist was solely female that I was like.
01:48:55.93
undertheplumbobpod
Um, yeah, but like.
01:49:02.47
undertheplumbobpod
Um, yeah.
01:49:11.72
Ava
Yeah, okay I can play as ah as a girl but this just not my type of game like I think I I played Ruby Ah which was fine. Um I have played bayonet I enjoyed even though that was very much like.
01:49:16.63
undertheplumbobpod
Oh yeah.
01:49:30.10
Ava
Um, I don't even know about that man. Um, it just it was very I don't even want to say exploitative it was just you saw that the people really had a had a ball making that but it was definitely meant to go like Hum Um, um month when you saw you know.
01:49:31.17
undertheplumbobpod
Male- Focused Female male.
01:49:46.62
undertheplumbobpod
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:49:49.50
Ava
Be be you male female or everything in between doesn't matter like when you see Bayonetta you're like holy shit you know, um Plus also the character herself is just um, you want strong female character Bayonetta but I also played blood rain.
01:50:08.31
Ava
Didn't like that um tomb braider. Loved it. But like there were there were some Well I love the old Tomb Raiders The new Tomb braiders I'm I'm mad about um, but there yeah there are some games that I've played that can only be played as a girl that I'm more bleb about but.
01:50:10.24
undertheplumbobpod
Um, yes, yes.
01:50:27.28
Ava
I Like the option I want the option to be there which is why I've always like drifted more into like rpgs and Mmos and stuff because you have the choice and um, yeah, which is something I always appreciated about like.
01:50:30.54
undertheplumbobpod
Um, yeah.
01:50:35.81
undertheplumbobpod
Yeah, and you make them look like how you want.
01:50:44.29
Ava
Effect like when my friend handed me mass effect is literally the only game that I had played before as a girl was tombriter. My friend had mass effect. She was like here and it was like ah because it had like male Shep like male shepherd on the cover and I was like and I'll play it like playing as a guy. She's like oh no, but you can play as a girl.
01:50:58.81
undertheplumbobpod
Oh okay.
01:51:02.13
Ava
And I was like mind blowed you know, ah and then dragon age and everything like that and it just opened up a whole new world of video games for me. So.
01:51:03.64
undertheplumbobpod
Um, yeah, um.
01:51:13.10
undertheplumbobpod
And like people say that representation doesn't matter but like it definitely like when you're a white man. It doesn't matter because every other game is man. Yeah, but like yeah tomb raider I was obsessed with tomb raider because I was like.
01:51:18.60
Ava
Yeah, it does. About you? yeah.
01:51:31.77
undertheplumbobpod
Ah child and I'm like cool I can be a girl now like.
01:51:32.62
Ava
Yeah for me and like this is literally a conversation I had with my friend 1 time when we we were talking about why we like 2 bright girls like it was she was just so cool like she could do all this stuff but she was also smart. She had all this knowledge about all these ancient. Things but she was fearless and she was brave and blah blah asked like what why did you? What did you enjoy about playing tomb braider and he was like when I play Tomb Brather 2 there was a maud that let you play with her naked and.
01:51:51.92
undertheplumbobpod
Hinder.
01:52:03.50
undertheplumbobpod
Oh my god.
01:52:09.10
Ava
Basically just sums up the entire difference for me. It's like for me I got to play as me like as a girl and and I had that representation it was like or a woman being cool and for my my my friend it was just like who its you know.
01:52:15.14
undertheplumbobpod
A girl. Yeah.
01:52:24.64
undertheplumbobpod
But and you saw her ass the whole time because she was combined and.
01:52:28.15
Ava
Yeah, like no I mean I when I when I look when he said said that to me I remember looking at him and I was like but her tits were cones and he was like yeah like yeah they will earn and like what.
01:52:37.72
undertheplumbobpod
Ill.
01:52:45.61
undertheplumbobpod
Oh boys are Teenage boys are a special grade.
01:52:48.82
Ava
Um, I mean he did like as he grew he did say like as I grew up I learned to appreciate like the story in the setting etc. But when I was a teenage boy All that was going through my head was tits which I I I understand.
01:53:05.67
undertheplumbobpod
Yeah.
01:53:07.49
Ava
I understand but it just it shows that these things representation can have a profound effect on someone who sees themselves on that screen for once instead of closing your eyes and having to pretend.
01:53:24.39
undertheplumbobpod
Yes, and great. So.
01:53:26.26
Ava
You know because you get tired of pretending at some point and you're just like I don't want to sit here and use my brain power and pretend that I could do this thing I Want to see someone like me actually do this thing.
01:53:39.92
undertheplumbobpod
Yeah, and like Laura Croft is like like you said a strong female whereas like you don't want to see just some dumb little like you have to rescue her type girl you want to like princess page was not a good.
01:53:55.47
Ava
Yeah, see that's that's always like it's kind of always what booked me about the legend of zelda like the game was called the legend of Zelda and zelda was barely in it. Yeah, you had to go and rescue her.
01:53:59.52
undertheplumbobpod
Female representation.
01:54:05.67
undertheplumbobpod
Yeah, and you had this, You had to save her too. Didn't you.
01:54:13.31
Ava
Like 1 of the one of the few times that I actually really felt like she was doing something was in twilight princess because like at least at some point she held a sword you know and she was like almost fuck you up.
01:54:20.77
undertheplumbobpod
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:54:31.49
Ava
If you come closer but then it was like oh shit I'm outnumbered I better drop my sword which is you know, still a decent thing to do as a ruler but you know she felt like she had actually like she was ready to fight for her people. And then you know she's she's like shooting those arrows to give you a chance to defeat again and etc. She felt useful and you know even in Okerina time it was chic. Yes, it was chic but you know technically it was Zelda but it was. You didn't know that yet. Sorry if I spoiled it for anybody. But this game is literally older than me. So um, it's like yeah you know it could have just technically it was Zelda but technically it wasn't and it just made my head hurt.
01:55:15.80
undertheplumbobpod
Yeah I don't I don't play those games really but like I know the everything about them.
01:55:21.73
Ava
Yeah, and it was and always because it always it was the that's way there's this meme where they call link Zelda because like oh yeah, then then Zelda No no, no his name is link but the but the game is called the legend of Zelda and he's the main character. Yeah.
01:55:29.77
undertheplumbobpod
Here.
01:55:37.30
undertheplumbobpod
And he just happens to look fem.
01:55:39.75
Ava
Which one's elder she is but she's hardly in the game. Yeah I know and it's just I don't know man it I don't I don't even know how we got to this topic but there you go.
01:55:46.60
undertheplumbobpod
I get it. But it is one so I have to get going and we're going to spit out our outer real quick. So i. i' going to go through our socials real quick because you guys should know these by now. But if you don't um, we are Plum Bobcast on Instagram and Twitter Plum bob podcast on Reddit under the Plum Bob Podcast on Facebook and Tumblr website Plum Plum Bobpodcast Dot Com um you can contact us there or you can email us at under the pumpba podcast at Gmail.com we have merch we're going to have a sale soon. Probably not too long after this comes out because we're going to be celebrating our birthday a few days after this comes out.
01:56:37.50
Ava
Happy birthday to us.
01:56:42.21
undertheplumbobpod
And we got 4 big five twenty eighteen I can't do math I went to catholic school um 4 good job. Um, our fourth birthday come celebrate with us. We'll be putting social stuff out and we'll have a merch sale.
01:56:47.82
Ava
01:57:00.24
undertheplumbobpod
Um, you can go to bit.ly/pumpplumbobmerch subscribe rate and review on Apple Podcasts that tune in Spotify google play pandora um, we just got another one Amazon podcast we're on there now.
01:57:06.70
Ava
A company.
01:57:20.15
undertheplumbobpod
Um, thanks to our wonderful writing and research team for that. It was me um I Um, thank you sims wiki because that's where I got it anyway. Um, and thank you guys for listening and we love you and.
01:57:26.56
Ava
Nope She did it all.
01:57:36.94
Ava
Right.
01:57:40.11
undertheplumbobpod
We love the game as much as you do. So we appreciate you guys being here and now we're going back to the real world Hi alfi.
01:57:50.22
Ava
Nope he hi he finally woke up from his nap and he's like pay attention to me.
01:57:57.30
undertheplumbobpod
Oh I wanted taken up too. But I'm gonna go exchange close. Um, and now we're going back to the real world and if you're playing while lessoning save your game because.
01:58:08.72
Ava
Yes, save your game. Yep and drink water.
01:58:12.26
undertheplumbobpod
It's a madhouse out there right now wash and wash your hands and get vaccinated.
01:58:18.36
Ava
Oh I'm getting vaccinated twenty seventh getting my fourth shot.
01:58:24.73
undertheplumbobpod
We just got to where we can do that here like some places had it and some places didn't and even with like you had to be old I think ah that sounds mean but you had to be like really old to get it I think.
01:58:35.40
Ava
Um, it.
01:58:38.47
Ava
Yeah.
01:58:40.47
undertheplumbobpod
Like over 65 I guess that's not really old. Um, but now I think everybody can get their second fourth shot. So I think I'm born for that Elie were you eating.
01:58:46.90
Ava
Yeah, my parents already got in I get at the end of a month so you need a little crust of bread that I had left on my sandwich. He got some yelp my.
01:58:56.70
undertheplumbobpod
Oh all, right? We're going out and you guys have a lovely day goodbye.
01:59:06.52
Ava
A.