Choose Your Struggle Presents: Made It

Welcome to Choose Your Struggle Presents: Made It, Season 1: Stay Savage. We did it! The series is over. But don't turn it off yet. The ending is a tearjerker.

Show Notes

Made It is a member of the Shameless Podcast Network and a Choose Your Struggle production. Learn more at https://www.shamelessnetwork.com/ and at https://www.chooseyourstruggle.com/.

Learn more about Sarah and Savage Sisters, including how to support, at https://savagesisters.org/.

For more on Made It host Jay Shifman, see https://jay.campsite.bio/ and http://www.JayShifman.com.  

A complete list of people you heard on this show (and those referenced but unheard from) and pictures to put a face with the names and voices can be found at https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1-CIeh6f2bhgb3cGfJFCqvXL9SJWvSUtN?usp=sharing.

Made It Season 1: Stay Savage was recorded in South Philadelphia, except for the interview with Mother Mary Nolan, which was recorded at her house in the Philly suburbs, and the audio you hear in Episode 1, which was recorded on site in North Philly's Kensington neighborhood.

This show is dedicated to: Jim, David, Lauren, Renae, and the roughly 80,000 people who lost their life to OD in this country during the period of time in which the show was being made. 

Made It was created without any sponsorship dollars. The partners you hear from were all donated their spots free of charge. But before you discount them for it know that we are so thankful for their support at a time when that was hard to find! And it means they are all orgs. and people we LOVE. So check them out! And to support us, reach out at info@jayShifman.com or through www.chooseyourstruggle.com or subscribe to our Patreon at https://www.patreon.com/ChooseYourStruggle.

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What is Choose Your Struggle Presents: Made It?

Choose Your Struggle Presents: Made It, a documentary, serial-style podcast telling the story of a person who has made it back from the depths of trauma and created something extraordinary with their second chance.

Season 1 is titled Stay Savage and focuses on Sarah Laurel and the harm reduction and recovery housing organization Savage Sisters.

* This transcript has not been edited. Sorry, I ran out of time!

Made it made it made it as a member of the shameless podcast network previously on made it, I'm not getting my hopes up with this. You know, I was very detached from. As much as I could be. I mean, I, yeah, he was great, but like, in the back of my mind, there was this constant whisper that was like, he's probably gonna die.

You want the truth? Here we go again. So I knew something was wrong. If she dies,

choose your struggle presents made it season one state. Savage. We need to talk about our mental health. We need to make our mental health stronger so we can withstand the things that happen in our life. We're going to go through trials and tribulations, but if we can work on our mental health, proactively our wellness, we can handle all that as a community and come together.

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welcome to episode 10, this wild ride. No, that's definitely over the top. It's been a lot of work to get to this point, and it's been a lot of fun making this show. It's been special to tell Sarah's story and obviously more than Sarah story, to tell Charlie a story, to tell the story, Mary and Mac and yada yada, yada, but we're coming to a close.

This is the last episode and good. There's no more little squiggly lines. There's no more twists and turns. We're just heading up from here and we're going to start with Charlie because we have to bring him back into the fold. Of course, Charlie has to come home. Welcome to episode 10. The season finale of choose your struggle presents made it seeds in one, stay Savage.

COVID happened. And, uh, so all my, like the, the AA meetings I went to, um, shut down, my job went completely remote. So I was working from home and like, I P I just got real isolated. Like I've never left my apartment for anything. And there was a dude in my complex that, like I knew sold drugs. He was like, I still, I might be sober.

I've still got that radar. Um, I still have. Who who's doing what? And like one day I just, it just seemed like a really good idea to get. I wasn't calling my friends anymore. I basically by COVID and by choice, I lost my whole support system. Um, all the stuff that like had gotten me sober and got me to stay sober and helped me build a life that was like worth having that.

I was proud and happy to have gone well within the course of a couple of weeks. And I started getting high and got high for months and months. I sold everything out of the apartment. I lost the job. I even sold my furniture. I let my drug dealer move in. I let another drug dealer move in, who was the whole thing, isolated from his family due to COVID and distance.

Nobody knew how badly Charlie was struggling. That is until an invite arrived in the mail to his brother on this. And Charlie had a choice. He could skip the wedding or go home and let everyone see the rough shape he was in for someone who cares so deeply about their family as Charlie does that wasn't really an option.

So Charlie went home. So like I'm at my brother's wedding. It's supposed to be like a beautiful, great family time. I haven't seen my family in like years and I'm just like sick, like just not doing well, fucking freezing. And like Sarah was there. My whole family is there and I could clearly see, I wasn't dealing very well.

Next morning, I went back to Kensington. Like as soon as I could, uh, borrowed someone's car, took it, the kind of thing got enough. Drugs lasts me the next two days while I was here. Um, and then like I'm at Adam and Jordy's apartment waiting to go to the airport to go back to Phoenix. And then just like my whole family shows up and they're like, you're going to rehab.

Like, you're not, you're not going, you're not getting back on this plane. And at this point I was just like, I was sick of getting high. I just couldn't stop. Um, I knew that my life fucking sucked and I was miserable. Um, I just kinda needed a catalyst to like change. Um, so I didn't even argue. I was just like, yeah, like of course I'm going to rehab.

Yeah, let's do that while it sucks that Charlie had to go back to rehab. The good news is he was home and right around this time, the family got another dose of good news. Here's Tony. Sarah comes from a very traditional family and her mom is also a jeweler and makes very nice custom jewelry. I wanted.

You know, there's complications within the family with Zara and I wanted to go the proper avenues and proper channels so that I could respect their traditions as much as possible. And, uh, first I asked mom, I asked Mary if, uh, you know, I could ask her daughter's hand in marriage and you know, she, she gave me your blessing.

And then, uh, I asked her brothers and, uh, they also said, you know, and this was another one of those moments, like, was this too soon? Or am I in the mood? And you know, Mary was like, I think she's thinks it should have happened already. I'm I've get on it then. So I had a, I had an idea about the ring and Mary.

With her crafts into, to fabrication and into design and like into reality. Um, so this was another thing. Cause even a year ago, things were pretty crazy. Things were pretty hectic. And I declaim Sarah for Halloween. I'm like, you don't have anything to, well, what are we doing? I'm like, don't worry about it.

We're gonna, we're just going to go for a ride like your mind. Like you can't have anything. Just tell them you can do it. Sarah's going to hate me for saying this, but beneath this ice queen witchy bad-ass shell beats the heart of a romantic and she can't help, but lighten up when she talks about Tony's proposal, here's Sarah, there was a full moon.

Obviously his brother has a house that's like by a lake and a. There were supposed to be like this epic, full moon. And I wanted to, I wanted to do witchcraft under the full moon on the water. You know, I always go to where the water meets the earth. And I find that the energy in those places are amazing and the energy of the full moon.

And it was very, for me, that's what I was there for. That's what I was doing there. And I had all my candles and my Sage, and we went out on his boat and he proposed. Tony worked hard and planned a beautiful night, and you can hear it in the way they both talk about it. That it was incredibly special to both of them.

She was doing her thing with, with some, some witchcraft stuff. And, you know, I had, I had this spring at this point, I've had this room for three weeks and I'm like, this is happening. And, and, you know, we got out on the boat and it was, it was very cold and, um, I was letting her do her thing. Mostly just watching them playing music.

And finally, I got down on my knee, in the boat and I held it out and I asked her, will you marry me? And she responded initially with a question. She was like, you want to marry me? And I was just like, yeah, of course. Under the full moon, the ring was gorgeous and he was just really sweet about it. And I thought for sure on the way to do this, I, first of all, I didn't think he was going to come out on the boat with me, um, because of what I was doing.

But then he was just, I don't know, he's just, so he lets me do whatever and like a nonjudgmental way. Proposes to me during like a ceremony. Um, so yeah, it was, it was really special to me and special that he knew it was special. Like that was what made it so cool. Cause he knows, I love the moon. The moon is like my favorite and he always does things that are like, thought out, you know?

Um, they're not these grand gestures. They're just really thoughtful. You know, it was, it was really a nice night and you know, it was perfect. It was perfect. It was just me and her out there. And, uh,

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After Tony and Sarah got engaged, things just kept going right for Sarah and for Savage. And it's right around this time that I get to introduce you to the last person that I interviewed for this. Oh, that was so dramatic. That person's me. I'm not just your friendly narrator. As I mentioned previously, I think I'm also a board member of this organization.

I was living in Charleston, South Carolina, around my wife's family. We had moved there in the summer of 2019 to be near her family while I, a member of her family was struggling with their health. And remember the last couple of years that faced our country in our world. COVID was just awful for so many people, but certain areas, uh, to put this nicely, didn't take it as seriously as others.

Others did. We'll just leave it at this. The amount of times I was told to take off my mask in, in Charleston, South Carolina was, was staggering. And then right after that, the brutal murder of George Floyd went around the world and. I was on the board of another organization in, in that area, not a harm reduction, one, uh, where I was told that supporting black lives matter made me an extremist, needless to say, I, I resigned from that, that board overall.

It was not a great time for my wife and. And what made it even worse is that these topics, I care about mental health, substance misuse, and recovery, drug use, and policy. These are things we don't talk about openly in that area. Um, in fact, I love this joke. I say it all the time that I was told, bless your heart by so many people in the south when trying to talk about these subjects, that my dog thought it was my name.

And so not long into, well, it would have been late 2020 actually. We decided we were going to move and we considered multiple places, but Philly became our top choice. And I started researching people doing cool work in Philadelphia, around the issues of drug use, especially in the harm reduction community.

And I read this article about this fascinating woman who had started an organization from her hospital bed after being thrown out of a second story with. And I was like, man, I want to meet this person. So I reached out and in typical Sarah fashion, she was like, amazing. When are you moving here? Let's get lunch.

I cannot wait. And, uh, seriously, we had been here for three days, four days when Sarah and I grabbed coffee and I didn't know what to expect. And here comes this totally unique person in Sarah. And she pulls up and gets out of her car and she's got the boots on and the leather jacket and the purple hair.

And I was immediately down. I was like, I don't care what she is going to ask me to do. I'm on board. And to her credit, she didn't ask for shit. By the end of the meeting, it was me saying, here's what I want to do. Here's how I want to help. And six weeks later, she asked me to join the board and that was the spring of.

2021. And here I am, it's the winter of 2022. And I am finishing telling her story and I'm a board member and I am so deeply indebted to this organization for helping me see the Philadelphia community in a deeper, more meaningful way. And helping me, helping me learn more about drug use and harm reduction, then I ever did.

Uh, I mean, I came with a lot of knowledge in my own experience, obviously all of it, all of it paled in, in, in learning from destiny and from Sarah and Charlie and this incredible family who I now get to call my friends. So yeah, I'm the last member of this incredible crew to be interviewed. And it's been an absolute joy getting to know everybody and telling this story.

But we're not done yet. Uh, we're not done yet. Right around this time that I was getting involved. Another amazing home run was happening for the family. Adam and Mac were going to graduate college on the same day. Here's that? Nobody in our family had ever gone to college before and me and Matt graduated on the same day.

So from the same place it was, uh, it was incredible. Sarah was, I know, honestly, Sarah and Liz were probably more excited than I was. It was, uh, it was funny. It was a unbelievable, and it was such a relief. I had been, I'd been in school for what seemed like forever. Um, and throughout that entire process, Sarah was there.

Um, she, uh, she was anytime, uh, I felt like fucking quitting, which was several times, uh, the two people who helped me through that were Sarah and Georgie, a hundred percent here's Mac. It was ethic. They threw us a really big party at my mom's house. They did the whole decorations. It was, it was. Um, we were the first in our family to complete college.

And so it was just super epic. Uh, you know, it was like, holy shit, we, we just, we just broke statistics and Savage continued to grow on August 31st, the state of Pennsylvania marked overdose awareness day. And Sarah was one of the featured speakers at the event, but even better on September 18th, 2021.

Sarah and Tony got married. We did the tying of the knots. That was a very important ceremonial practice that I wanted to do. He let me do it. And he liked it too, which I love about, you know, I explained things to him and he likes it. You know, I do these, um, this, uh, ocean magic and stuff, and like, he'll do it with.

And I know he's kind of in his head, he's probably like, what is she got me doing now? You know, but he does it and he, and he doesn't complain and, and, um, it's just sweet. Tony agrees this wasn't her wedding or his wedding. This was. I think the end game, the end result was really perfect. And like it is exactly we're not only she wanted, but what we both wanted in the end, in the coffin and all these things, there was a coffin on display.

It was pretty meaningful. It's like three years ago. My family was like considering my funeral and burial. And like, I just got back. And hers too, at different points in her, you know, in her and going back out and all of these experiences is really a beautiful thing because I personally had no idea. You know, I wrote that off long ago with this on there.

Guys don't grow up dreaming about their wedding, but like I absolutely wrote off like having a wife like that was not in the cards for me. Let's take a break. If you guys want to learn more about Savage sisters, check out www dot Savage, sisters.org. If you'd like to hear more from me and Sarah specifically, please reach out to info@savagesisters.org, and we can come speak to you, your organization, your business, or your place of worship on Narcan, trainings, harm reduction, trainings, or anything in general with Savage.

If you want to donate, please go to seven sisters.org sponsorship page. There. You can find a plethora of ways to give directly to our cause and help our mission. Additionally, you want to come volunteer at an outreach. Please reach out to info@savagesisters.org. So we can give you dates times and locations for our outreach events.

Thanks everybody. Stay Savage.

Hey, y'all it's Jay, the host of this show. If you're not really enjoying this series and you're just listening to make me happy, then thank you for the rest of you. I invite you to check out everything else. Choose your struggle does in the mental health and drug use advocacy space. We have a couple of other podcasts, including our incredibly popular weekly show called.

Choose your struggle on that show. I interview people with lived and learned experiences on the subjects of mental. Substance misuse and recovery and drug use and policy. But occasionally we talk about other topics as well. We also have another new show called choose your struggle presents Monday motivation, but it's not just podcasts.

We also host two vulnerable storytelling events, rock-bottom storytellers and a day in the life on Facebook, LinkedIn, Twitter, Twitch, and YouTube. And now I'm so excited to announce that we'll be doing rock bottom storytellers live here in Philly, starting this summer. I also have a book coming out, hopefully later this year.

And I regularly traveled the country, telling my story. And speaking about these important topics. I know this is all a lot, but you can check us out at our website. Choose your struggle.com and check out all of our podcasts wherever you're getting this serious, just by searching for. Choose your struggle.

All right. That's enough about us. Let's get back to the show

with Sarah healthy and happy. Over the last year, Savage has really hit it straight. And for those in the family and connected to the organization, they couldn't be more excited. Here's Liz, you know, I'm, I'm the big sister, she's the little sister and now I'm like, holy shit. You know, seeing her get married and seeing all the people come together and really rally around Sarah and the person that she's become.

And the work that she does has given me a whole lot of, uh, admiration and respect for my little son. Looking up to her. This is the first time in my life. I could say I look up to my little sister, honestly, and I fucking love it. I mean, this is the best for Mack who was there from the beginning and knows the ins and outs of the organization.

It's even more remarkable. We started from nothing. The only thing that we had was knowledge of what we shouldn't do, because there were lots of things. Sarah had gone through in her prior journeys and her previous attempts at recovery, uh, that we knew, you know, don't do that. That's bad. So we had a whole big list of don't do it.

We didn't have as big a list as that's a good idea for Shannon who remains a member of the family and a committed volunteer every day is a new. It's like waking up on Christmas morning. Like every time something new happens, it's like, oh, this is so exciting. Oh my goodness. You know what I mean? Because it's like, or like watching your kid take their first steps or like do their first something, you know what I mean?

Like that's how it feels to me. For destiny, the impact that Savage is having on the community is irreplaceable. I love it. I love to see, I remember hearing about Savage when they were very like small little group and then they expand it to more houses, more people, they have weekly outreaches. And then as you know, our monthly outreach that we do together, um, it's, it's been, it's been so cool.

The last update I get to give on this show is about Charlie rehab work for him this time. And he's doing really well. So, well, actually that he now works for the city. He's the harm reduction specialist and he is fantastic at the job. Well, it's fucking crazy. I swear to God, Sarah does the work of like five human beings.

I don't, I don't understand. I don't understand. And like the really the really cool part is, is that like, yeah, she accomplishes a lot, like I'm mind blowing them out, but like the level of. Staying like, I don't wanna say staying humble cause that's not exactly what I mean, but like staying involved on a day to day level and like genuinely caring about these men and women and like doing whatever she can to like help them foster their own growth is like amazing.

I've been in a lot of sober livings and like I've never seen one way. The Hertz and you started at, or runs it like cares on such a personal level about each resident. Like that's fucking cool. I'm like, of course, of course it's wrong. Hey, because of all the hard work that Sarah, Adam Georgie's and everybody puts in, um, like you're going to get growth from that.

But like, it's also just like the spirit behind Savage. Like the soul of Savage is like, it was created. Altruistic like intentions of like just wanting to help. And that's, that's helped it grow tremendously because there's not greed getting in the way. There's not like, uh, other people's intentions getting in the way George, you see something extra special here, a person changing the narrative.

It's really empowering. I hate to say this, but when I think of CEOs, I close my eyes and like I see on. And like, I hate that. That's what comes into my head and old white guy, but like it is so to see Sarah, a strong, smart, independent woman do this is it's not only amazing. Like feel, it makes me feel good as a woman, you know, savages growth.

And the fact that his wife is the brains behind it is extra special for Tony. It's been, it's been everything. It's been very. Beautiful to deal with. Em is so awesome to watch. And like, this is Sarah's dream. Like I'm literally watching my partner's dream come true for it's awesome. And it's exciting. And there's even like shades of, of, of fame for Sarah that are coming with it.

And that's like, you know, somebody that happened at the, uh, where it leaves out of there. Look, how are you? Sarah's husband? And I'm like, I want to stop real quick and give it up for the person who took a chance on Sarah. At the very beginning, when all she had was this big idea. And that's Adam, if I've not done one thing well with this series, it's truly illustrate the way that Adam went out on a limb for his sister and started something beautiful with her.

You can hear the joy in his voice when he talks about all that Sarah has done and all that Sarah means to him shortly after she went through. She left. I was basically like, fuck, here we go again. Somehow, despite all the odds against her, she managed to stay sober after that. And she managed to continue making Savage sisters happen.

And for me, being able to witness that and see it was absolutely mind blowing and, uh, she's been fucking killing it ever since. Being able to continue working with her, being able to continue having her in my life. So just incredibly grateful and relieved to this day that she managed to overcome that from the beginning through it all.

There's been one constant since the day the organization was founded. Mary has been the president of the board and I'm proud to serve under her here's Mary. So this mission to me, Is kind of like mother Teresa's mission to the dying in India. You know, it's the same mission. It's the suffering and the sick and the poor and the homeless and the bleeding and the abused in every way.

Does it have to be huge? No, it doesn't have to be huge. It's human hearts and lives. You need to meet them where they are, wherever that is not sit on your high horse. Judging people and saying, well, you know, get your shot three. I don't know. I'll be around up. Yeah. Well, when I went down to see Sarah and take her out to lunch, I'm letting you know, I love you and you're human and okay.

You're not ready to get sober, but that doesn't mean I don't love you. And you're not human. You're still my beautiful daughter. And I'll spend the lunch with you. If that's all I get, I'll take it. If that's all I can give, I'll give it. And I think that's our should be our approach to all. People in this struggle is whatever.

I, if I have five minutes to give you a smile, you know, and a pair of sweatpants or a pair of sneakers that I'll give that those pallets are Narcan. The first pallet that was delivered in this driveway, I went out, it was just starting to rain. The delivery guy puts it down, heist, tear it up. I say, thank you.

He's like I, uh, I deliver this stuff for a living. Doesn't do any good. They got to get off the drugs first. And he's like a 50 year old guy, maybe 45. I said, my son overdosed in that bedroom and he was Narcanned back to life and now he's sober and he's a fine. And I said, my daughter was Narcanned dozens of times.

She founded the organization that you're donating this to. They can't get sober. If they're dead, this is chance for them. You can see them. Trust me, there's hundreds and thousands of people alive and sober because of what you are doing. I stood out there and I literally laid hands on that Narcan and I blessed it and I prayed, please, God, let it not just be something that goes in, bring some life, but bring them.

And with that, we've come to the end of the show. There's only two segments left and trust me, you're going to want to stick around to the end. You're going to want to stick around to the end. But before we get to that, I asked him. If she could, I don't know, wrap this up a little bit. If she could talk about what this meant, what her story means and if she had a message for everybody.

So for the last time here's Sarah couple of things, I guess. Um, but most importantly, that it's about fucking time. That a female voice with lived experience gets the fucking floor that I don't just represent Sarah. Like, that's not what I'm here for. This isn't Sarah, this is Savage sisters and Savage sisters is about

giving that, that voice. To what we're dealing with. You know, everybody wants to tell us how to live and how to do this and how to, how to do all these things. And like our mission in itself is, is love. It's radical love, you know, in so many different ways. And, um, I could not tell you, like, if I were to say, if I walked down the street and has 10 people, who's a bad ass bitch and recovery, that's like got a platform who know.

That's not done. We don't have that platform to come out of what we come out of. We have judgment, we have stigma, we have bullshit. And like, thank God, you know, like thank God that the stars kind of aligned that they did. And anybody even listened to my rambling. Because it's such a big collaboration now, you know, it's not just like one person, like what, what started out as just like an effort to help has now become this space where like I have all these people working with me and like focusing on helping people heal, you know, educating people about the disease ending state.

And it's not coming from like this PhD level and it's not coming from this like research and development bullshit. It's coming from, I lived with this. This is what it looks like. This is what it feels like. This is what it tastes like. This is what it smells like. This is what happens. This is how you come back from it.

This is how you get into it. And this is how you survive in it. And we don't really have a lot of that. And I think it's because. The world wasn't ready for it, I guess, or there wasn't the right person or there wasn't the right mission or goal or collaboration of people. I think the people that we have working with our organization now it's jelling together and like, it's, it's coming together and we have all these incredible people coming in with ideas of like, how do we do this and how do we do that?

And. Get this sticky fucking message into social media by saying, fuck death, carry Narcan. And how do we spread awareness about harm reduction by not making everybody think about like the, the stigma attached to it? How do we attach people to the love around it? And, and how do we help people in houses and how do we advocate in the courtrooms?

And like, it is a work in progress, but the cool part about it is that people are seeing what we're doing and we're doing it so fucking raw. And they're like, yo dog, did, you know, you could do this. Did you know, you could say that, did you know, you can talk to this person and there's this grant available and there's this available.

And we're tapping into these resources for Savage sisters so that we can offer them to other people. And it just all kind of flowed into this like natural Whirlpool of like here, the fuck you go. And like don't drown, but it's working. I don't know why it's working. You're damn right, Sarah. It is about time and you're not going to drown because I speak for the entire board and everybody, everybody in this organization, when I say we're here with you

and we've got you. Oh man, I am, I'm literally tearing up because we're done. We are done. I didn't know how I was going to end the show. I asked everybody at the end of every interview, I asked the same question and that wasn't 30 seconds to a minute. If you could record a message for Sarah, what would it be?

And I knew that I would incorporate those somehow, but I didn't know exactly how. And so I reached out to another member of the Savage family. His name is. Uh, he's in the way that everybody is a cousin or a brother or something, he's a cousin. He dated Sara's cousin area for a long time and became a, a member of the family.

Um, even though Ariel is sadly no longer with us. And Matt is an incredible musician who goes by the name of lettuce and he and his writing partner, his producing partner, Rob DV. There was nobody else that I could ask to do this. So they have created an original song. Yes. I saved the theme, not the theme song.

You've heard that throughout. And you know, at the end of every show, I give a big thanks to the incredible artists who produced that, but I've saved. I've saved the main theme for the various. What I'm like tearing up, I'm crying. I'm choking up. I cannot even talk about this. This is so beautiful to me. I hope you enjoy this.

What you're going to hear now to end this show is all of those messages for Sarah, from everybody that loves her

and the original song. Find me from LA. There's so much love in this and, um, it better than I ever could wraps up how I feel about making this show without further ado, here's lettuce performing his original song, the made it season one, stay Savage theme. Find. And messages from everybody who loves Sarah along the way.

Thank you for listening to choose your struggle presents made it season one, stay Savage.

Um,

Can you hear me?

sorry for everything I ever did to you. And I love you more than anything in the world. And I can't wait to see what happens next. I am here for you 24 7 until the day I drop dead, honey, you can trust me. Thank you. Giving me the opportunity to, to live a life of service. I never would have done it without you.

I would have just gone into corporate bullshit. So thank you. Keep doing what you're fucking doing because it's amazing. You're an inspiration. And, uh, I love you. Proud of you. God damn, dude. You're fucking. I know for a fact that I'm not capable of doing all the shit that you do. And I'm know for a fact that 99.9% of people in the world are not capable of doing the shit that you do in the way that you do it, because you put your heart and your soul into this, your blood, your sweat, your tears, literally.

And like you've made one of the most beautiful things on the planet. Like one of the most beautiful like community environments for the people that need it the most. Um, I love you. You're fucking.

can you hear me?

I just want to say that I'm really grateful for Sarah's. I'm really grateful for the opportunity to eat, to be a part of her board, to be a part of her journey for her, allowing me to be around her family for given the opportunity to even like meet her children and just, you know, to hold space for me. Uh, when I text her venting about things, I'm just very, very grateful for Sarah.

I don't know, Sarah, you're a freaking queen. I'm really grateful that we've been able to, to grow together. And from like that first day that I met you, that was a little rough too. Now that I really feel like we were genuinely like really, really close friends. Um, I'm really grateful to have you in my life.

And I'm really grateful to one day call you my sister and I love you. I'm going to cry now. So Sarah, thank you for having me on. Thank you for teaching me. Thank you for your friendship. And most of all, I don't know why you did it, but, uh, thank you for trusting me with your story. This has been an absolute pleasure.

All of it has getting to know you getting to know your family, calling you a friend. And I hope I made something that you're proud of. Choose your struggle and stay Savage. I absolutely adore you. And every time I get to talk to you, it's. An exhilarating thing to see someone grow and become the woman that you are today and don't ever give up and don't ever let anyone tell you you can't because you know, damn well that we absolutely can, and we will do it together.

Standing arm in arm, no matter what I got your back and we will do this and it will become everything you've always imagined and so much more

Can you hear me?

My reflection?

I am so proud of you every day. Uh, you have broken down barrier after barrier. You have cracked. The statistics that puts you in a box and you have crawled out of it on your hands and knees bleeding every day that I see you alive. I feel so lucky. You have always been a super hero to me and also a best friend to me am.

I'm super grateful that you are alive and. I'm so grateful that I get to work with you and build a relationship with you and look up to you as a little sister. Uh, and also I love you so much and I cannot wait to see you crush shit. I love you beyond my understanding. Trust hope. Surrender the award here in this world, it'll all be worth it.

Uh, Sarah, I just, uh, thank you. First of all, for just the best guidance I probably ever had in my life. I want to tell you how proud I am of you. Uh, it's not very often that you get to see something. Living their dream and doing work that they enjoy and doing work that they prefer. And that's, you don't need to say that.

I'm grateful we met is like the greatest understatement ever. Um, but I am, um, just infinitely, happy to you're a part of my life. That I'm part of yours. We have a family together and you know, we're getting there. I love you.

Uh, uh,