This week is a research deep dive. ReFiBuy commissioned a behavioral study of how real people shop inside ChatGPT and Google's AI Mode, and Scot sat down with the researcher who ran it to walk through what was found. The full study is published today This is the conversation behind the numbers.
Highlights:
Scot came out of the Amazon era believing the buy box was everything, and this study tells him ChatGPT has one too. Enjoy the conversation.
Timestamps: 01:57 Meet Eric Van Buskirk, Clickstream Solutions
02:15 Why ReFiBuy commissioned this study
02:48 Eric's background: SEMrush, Backlinko, Kevin Indig
04:05 Stated preference vs. observed behavior
06:05 How a behavioral study works
08:30 Why 40 people is enough
10:20 Who took part, and who got cut
11:55 The Amazon buy box and agentic commerce optimization
14:25 Finding #1: Pictures beat paragraphs
16:40 Card position: #1 wins, #3 beats #2
18:55 84% of choices come from a product card
20:35 Google SEO vs. AI: the "keyword jail" era
23:40 When do shoppers click out?
25:30 75% skip the text and go straight to the cards
27:25 Offer cards: the first offer dominates
30:20 Ads in ChatGPT: what shoppers really think
35:50 Trust and the reviews paradox
40:25 When bad data breaks trust
41:35 Where to get the study and work with Eric
44:55 Wrap-up