The Navvai Shift

What happens when one of the original go-to-market leaders behind Toast POS sets his sights on fixing one of the restaurant industry's biggest blind spots... finance?

In this episode of The Navvai Shift we sit down with Royce Luque, VP of Sales at KitchenSync to explore how AI, automation, and human expertise are transforming financial operations for restaurants in 2025.

From weekly P\&Ls to AI-supported accounting teams, KitchenSync is helping independent restaurants regain control over their numbers—without drowning in spreadsheets or clunky legacy systems.

You’ll hear:
✅ How KitchenSync blends people and AI to modernise restaurant back offices
✅ Why weekly P\&Ls beat monthly or quarterly reporting
✅ What sets KitchenSync apart from legacy tools and bookkeeping services
✅ The mindset shift restaurants need to survive the AI wave
✅ How Royce's experience helping Toast go public fuels his mission today

If you work in hospitality, restaurant operations, food tech, AI, or fintech—this episode is for you.

👉 Learn more about KitchenSync: [https://kitchensync.us](https://kitchensync.us)
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Yes, my people. Welcome to another
episode of the Nevada Chef. Today I have
my host Joshuan with me and here we have
the pleasure of having Royce Lucon, the
VP of sales at Kitchen Sync. Royce, how
you doing? I'm doing great. Thanks for
having me. No, of course. It's a
pleasure. So, for our viewers listening,
just give a bit more insight into
yourself and Kitchen Sync.
Yeah, absolutely. Kitchen Sync. Well,
first I'll start with myself. I've been
in restaurant tech now for about 14
years. was one of the early members of
the go to market team, one of the early
founders of of Toast Poss. Saw that
company grow revenue from about 8
million in ARR all the way up to about 2
billion in ARR. So definitely a rocket
ship and a beautiful experience there.
Over the course of the last two years,
I've shifted my attention to a very
critical mission that we see tons of
white space on and that's really
enabling restaurant tours to have much
more visibility, clarity, and control in
their financials. And we're doing that
by utilizing some incredible AI and some
cutting edge software to sort of like
give them the visibility that they need.
No, perfect. M. Thank you much for your
for the insight. So, just for reference,
how does this model help with big
financial challenges independent
restaurants currently face? Yeah, look,
if you're watching this episode right
now and uh and you're a foodie like me
and you like going to restaurants, I'll
give you a quick uh quick sneak peek of
of sort of like the the lay of of
restaurant tours and and the majority of
restaurant tours and they're creatives
that love food, love to delight their
guests, but we found that a lot of
restaurant tours uh they get sucked into
the things in the business side like
financials, P&Ls, cost of goods sold,
labor acrruels, which are which is
really really difficult to manage if you
don't have a ton background and
experience doing it. So, our whole
mission is how can we lighten the load
and enable these restaurant tours to
focus on what matters and that's
delighting their guests and and growing
their business and allowing us to do all
the all the bookkeeping and unsexy work
that that involves it. And Roy, I have
to ask out curiosity. What's what's your
go-to cuisine being in the restaurant
industry for such a long time? Oh, dude,
I'm Cuban American, so I have I have to
I have to give a shout out to some Cuban
food out there. If I had to choose one
cuisine to go with for the rest of my
life, it'd probably be Italian. For
sure. Royce, I wanted to ask, what kind
of issues does kitchen sink solve for
businesses?
Yeah, good question. So, I'm going to
start with some of the fundamental
pieces. What we've seen is is restaurant
tours, they don't have a budget in
place. And when I say budget, it's
broken up by line items, sort of like
the expenses of the business, the
objectives of the build business, and
where they think they're going. So, we
start at a very granular level. It's
like, why don't you have a budget? If
you don't have a budget, you don't have
clear objectives of where you're sort of
marching towards. If you don't have a
budget, there isn't really a lot of goal
placement or there isn't a northstar to
understanding where you need to go to
sort of accomplish these milestones to
become a profitable business that can
actually scale. So, so budget's a big
one. The next piece that's uh that we
see often and and and is a core pillar
to what we do is weekly P&L. So,
restaurant tours oftent times are
running on either monthly profit and
loss statements or even at times we see
quarterly profit and loss statements.
And when you're looking at a quarterly
or a monthly P&L, what's the problem?
The problem is it's been too long before
you could actually sit down, make a
review, and actually make an operational
change. So, we believe that in order to
have a really sustainable business
model, you want to understand what's
happening in the business week over
week. That's why we deliver those weekly
P&Ls so that when they're looking at it,
they can make oper operational changes
in real time and not look at the
rearview mirror.
That's that's an interesting take. So,
the space that you're in is is growing.
Well, the finance space in in all is
growing, especially with automation.
What would you say sets kitchen sink
apart from other providers?
Yeah, it's a good question. Look, if you
look at the landscape today, you have
some legacy players that are operating
with just software telling you like,
hey, here's a suite of software tools,
give it to your accounting team and your
finance team and make it work. And then
you have another set of of of players in
the category that they say, let us do
all of your bookkeeping, but we don't
have the tech. So what Kitchen Sync is,
we're the best of both worlds. So we're
giving our customers the tech, the
platform to have like that visibility
and communication piece that they're
looking for, but at the same time, we
believe that human behavior is still a
very necessary function to actually do
it the right way. So we combine tech and
people to manage your business. So we
sort of uh we like to say that we wrap
people around our our software. So think
of the best of both worlds. Wow, that's
that's amazing. And what's been a
typical reaction from restaurant owners
when they first see the kitchen sink's
real time insights? They say, "Come save
me. I need help." I love it.
You know, and obviously like I' I've
been privy to understanding the um the
challenges in the in the restaurant tech
landscape. Spending nine years of my
career with Toast, what I noticed is
that restaurant tours, they don't need
another tool. They don't need another
software. They don't need they don't
need another login platform that they
got to log into every day. what they
need is a true strategic partner that's
going to help them with their day-to-day
and sort of see some of these goals
through and that's what we do at Kitchen
Inc. That's definitely amazing. Thank
you for the insight. I was going to ask
I know you spent over 15 years in
restaurant tech early roles at Yelp Eat
24 and helping toast even go public. So,
what actually brought you to Kitchen
Sync? Yeah, you know, if I had it my
way, I would have spent another 10 years
at Toast. It was such an amazing ride.
But it got it got to the period where I
said, you know, like as passionate as I
am about this industry and solving some
real problems, you know, I wanted to
make sure that I was investing the next,
you know, five, six years or the next
decade into solving a problem that
everybody was probably scared to solve.
And that was a very unsexy world in in
financials, bookkeeping, accounting.
There isn't a lot of players sort of
helping the restaurant community with
this aspect of their business. So what
the reason I took it is because I
thought that it was a really good
opportunity to sort of just help the the
industry that I love so much and that's
helping them go faster with more clarity
and control like I mentioned earlier.
Nice. Nice. So Royce, you've actually
helped like one of the biggest names in
the space like grow and scale. How are
you using those lessons now in kitchen
sync that you some of the lessons that
you learned along the way? Yeah, that's
a phenomenal question. I was I was
blessed to be able to be a part of the
go to market team at Toast. I truly
believe whoever's watching this and any
of my extoast people watching this and
catching a glimpse, I'll give them a
shout out and say that I think that
Toast is the best go to market team in
restaurant tech. So it was almost like I
I always tell my team back at Toast is
like if you didn't go to Harvard, well,
you're in Harvard now for restaurant
tech because if there's anybody that's
doing it right, it's Toast. And Toast
had a really incredible knack for
combining business intelligence, really
good sales operational support and
enabling their sales team to be super
efficient and fluid in their motion. So
they had a really great way of um of of
utilizing data in a way that says what
drives the right sales behavior, what
drives the right efficiency around our
day-to-day and how can we use data to
make more informed decision to help our
go to market team go faster. Uh so what
I would say what I really learned at at
Toast was was applying some of those
metrics and KPIs and the data that to to
align with the business objectives that
we have with the sales team. A lot of
times you you find go to market leaders
in the space. They sort of just put
their head down and just grind it out
and sort of put their head down and hope
things work. But the truth is for you to
have a really repeatable and rinse rinse
and repeat approach and result. Well,
you're going to have to be prescriptive.
And to be prescriptive takes some pretty
good data and understanding your
customer base. The biggest challenge
that anybody faces in restaurant tech
and growing a go to market team is the
fact that we serve a very highly
distracted customer base. Is very
dynamic. Everything's changing day
overday. It has a very high point of of
failure rate. So there isn't a really a
lot of room to you know opportunity for
error. Knowing that is is you understand
the sensitivity of of of the needs that
these customers have. So for us, it's
like how do we get around the barriers
and the obstacles that exist today in
such a dynamic business of restaurant
tours being highly distracted, putting
top priorities on the maybe because
their oven just broke and they have run
rush in an hour. So the things that used
to be important yesterday is no longer
important today. So it's it's really
just enabling the team to understand
that there's going to be patterns,
there's going to be waves, but
sustaining the effort throughout all the
distractions. Yeah, I love that. I got
to say a big shout out to Toast as well.
For sure.
So we last had a conversation. You said
that tech should help create financial
freedom for teams and communities. So I
kind of want to ask how does that belief
influence how you lead that kitchen
sink? Well, I think it's a good moment
to sort of like hit the pause button now
and just like think of the landscape in
general. So we are entering into an era
that is one of the most highly
disruptive points and one of the largest
historically technologically
advancements that we've ever seen in
humanity. And that's that's the that's
the momentum of of artificial
intelligence and AI, which is a hot
topic right now. But you think of like
you think of sort of like the advances
we've had on this planet as human
beings, and you think of like going all
the way back to like, you know, creating
electricity in the light bulb, like
getting a massive uh um uh you know,
machine to fly in the air, what we call
airplanes. Uh getting a machine on the
ground with four wheels to get us to
place to place. I will stand on my end
of my two feet and say nothing will be
bigger and nothing historically has been
bigger than what we're about to
encounter with AI. And you think of like
you think of sort of like where the
industry is today and what open AI is
doing enabling so many companies and so
many communities to go faster. It's a
very scary topic. A lot of people don't
want to talk about it. A lot of people
are scared to a lot of mature companies
are sort of finding and and figuring out
like how do I introduce AI to the
patterns of my company when you're so
mature. How do I enable my team to
introduce AI with so much red tape and
and nuances behind it? Trust AI to say
and do the right things because it's
such a new technology. But you think of
open AI the infrastructure they're
building they're building a 500 billion
dollar infrastructure in Texas right for
to support sort of the demand center
that's around this. And what's beautiful
about AI is gone are the days of like
this heavy approach of like fragmented
systems and trying to get technology to
work from scratch. AI is going faster
and it's building every day on its own.
So really as humans and we almost like
we're getting to this we're getting to a
place where we sort of have to separate
like humans and AI because it's getting
that scary. But I think that we have the
opportunity ahead of us to really
position AI in a way that can help us
all live a better life. we can help AI
in a way that could all help all of us
go faster in all of our day-to-days.
It's just going to come down to how
we're going to use it and how we best
position that AI tool. So, I am
currently in a in a spot right now where
in my career and where Kitchen Sync is
at, it's like how can we accelerate AI
and how can we sprint towards AI as fast
as we possibly can? And I believe that
whether you're wherever you're sitting
at today,
the person that and I think the the the
CEO of Nvidia said it best. He said AI
is not going to replace your job, but
the people not using AI will get
replaced.
So, it's it's a matter of it's a really
just taking on that opportunity and
saying like I'm not going to be somebody
that's going to be scared of it. I'm
going to go faster because of it and
those are the ones that are going to
separate themselves in the next 10
years. Yeah. No, I'm definitely a true
believer of that myself cuz a lot of
people have this instant fear that AI is
here to take over but really and it's
really here to compliment and the more
people have that understanding and
actually learn more about it. They'll
see the benefits actually it has.
Absolutely. I agree with you. Now look
there there's there's a lot that we have
to learn of course there's a lot that we
have to we have to adapt to. There is
some concerns right? There are some
concerns around like we've seen there's
been recently a decline in in net new
job opportunities for for students
coming out of college and is it to say
be is it a correlation that AI is able
to do the job of most entrylevel folks?
Um and then how do we formally how do we
support our our young generation to when
they do get out of college and they do
have a swing at at like getting involved
in the corporate world. How do we make
space to ensure that they're getting the
right practice without AI totally just
taking over some of those lower level
jobs that often historically they were
used to sort of teach and enable and
help grow and groom some of the people
help groom and me. So I I you know so
wherever you find yourself today and I'm
even speaking to maybe you find yourself
in college and you're just getting your
first job. It's like, how are you going
to use AI where it's not a it's not an
excuse for you or it may be an excuse
for your buddy and your peer because
they weren't using it the right way, but
how are you not going to be part of that
metric? And how are you going to
differentiate yourself and say, "Hey, I
know getting an entry-level job is
getting harder, but if I utilize AI the
right way, I can go faster and show my
worth even more." So, how do you
compound your value? by knowing a lot
about how to utilize this tool. And if I
was a bit older and and I had a son or a
daughter coming out of college, my
advice to them is take every course you
can on AI and make sure you position
yourself as like a superpower assistant
than just someone you're scared of.
Nice. Royce, I definitely feel the
passion. I feel the energy in relations
to AI. Love it. But uh outside of
kitchen sink, where do you see AI having
like the biggest impact in automating,
you know, for example like back office
or work or building more AIdriven
culture in restaurants?
Yeah. Well, restaurants, I mean, we're
seeing a lot of it just with kitchen
syncing alone, not to double click on
kitchen sink, but we truly believe just
to tell you like the the impact that AI
can have, we believe that, you know, we
don't know how many accountants are
going to be around in the next 5 years.
So like is it to say that AI can't break
down a P&L? Is it to say that AI can't
uh you know give you some good cash
balances and understanding invisible and
and can they sort of put all these
metrics together to give you a healthy
review? But on the broader scope outside
of kitchen sink is like hey do we
introduce robotics like is it is it is
it wild to say that in 5 years you're
going to be eating at your favorite
restaurant and you're not going to be
greeted by a server but you're going to
be greeted by a robot. Is it safe to say
that when you're entering, you know,
when you go to McDonald's to go get your
Big Mac, are you ordering with a person
or are you ordering with an AI agent?
You know, is it safe to say that when
you go to a restaurant, the guy
preparing your nachos isn't a guy
anymore. It's just a robot putting it
together. So, I believe that's going to
happen. Whether that's in 5 years or 10
years, it's going to happen. And um and
and yeah, and I think it's going to be a
pretty cool advancement because I I
think it's going to it's going to make
our lives easier. We just have to be
really responsible to how we deploy it.
100%. There's certainly a bit of
hesitation with business owners in the
UK about implementing AI. I would
imagine you've probably had the same
from some restaurant owners in terms of
adopting this new tech. What's the
hardest part about helping them see the
value within AI tools?
Yeah. Um, you know, beyond everything
that I just sort of discussed, I I think
the value it depends on what seat you're
on. Like I'll give you an example now.
One really big trend that we're seeing
even from myself from an investment
standpoint. I'm looking at fully
autonomous vehicles. And you got to
think about, you know, you're going to
get to a a point very soon where I don't
know how it is in the UK. Um, you guys
have Uber over there, right? Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Well, imagine the next time
you call Uber, it's not an Uber driver
that maybe was at the bar three hours
ago and maybe had a couple beers
watching a soccer game and then decided
to pick up a shift and all of a sudden
maybe there's some risk on that drive.
But what if I told you that in five and
10 years that autonomous vehicle is
going to pick you up with nobody in the
vehicle and it's just going to be you
sitting alone in a car? And what if I
told you that that vehicle would be
safer than that Uber driver that you've
never met before? And what if I told you
that that autonomous vehicle had much
more data recognition that it was the
most experienced driver that you can
possibly find because it's utilizing
driving behavior from the entire globe
to make sure that it's giving you a safe
and fluid ride. Even today, I can get
behind of a Tesla and I can hit the full
self-drive mode and it could take me
wherever I want and it does it really
well. Yeah. Yeah. Now, you still have to
sort of have like your your hands on the
wheel and and sort of touch it every now
and then just so Tesla knows that you're
not falling asleep, but outside of that
function, it's taking you where you need
to go. So, we've already arrived. It's
really just about how fast we could get
mentally ready for it. Yeah. No,
definitely. It's for us to kind of catch
up. And I think espec even even now I'll
be honest you just sold it to me the
awesome is driving
ahead. He's ahead. He's thinking ahead.
Yeah. No Royce is ahead man. He's
definitely ahead the curve for sure
before we go ask any other question.
Royce is uh is Elon Musk in your your
network.
Oh dude I wish I wish he was in my
network man. I don't know. It's a hot
topic here in the states anytime you
talk about Elon Musk right now with
everything going on. But it's um but
yeah no Elon Musk is not in my network.
Neither is Tim Cook and any of those
guys. I'm just a Miami raised born guy
that uh that loves tech.
That's amazing. Josh already told that
we're definitely be coming over soon as
well. He's got to show us around. I love
it. I would love to have you guys here.
You guys have a whole year whenever you
need it. London. London Boys in Miami.
How's Yeah. London Boys in Miami. With
that action, you guys would be just
fine. It rings sweet. Feels like home.
Feels like home. And I'm not even there
yet.
I love it. I love it. But Roy, I know
Kitchen Sync offers like a demand team
of finance and HR experts as well. All
supported by AI. So, how are you
expanding the model for those for those
other restaurants as well? The model for
what other restaurants? Expanding the
model to reach more restaurants. Oh,
yeah. Yeah. So, how do we sort of just
further our reach? Correct.
Oh, I mean, if you have the answer, I'll
hire you today, man. Because that's what
we're trying to figure out. Um, but like
right now what we're what we're trying
to solve for is understanding that this
is a major major pain point and we know
that restaurant tours are truly
struggling with their financials and um
and for us we've had a ton of success
with sort of like just demand and the
outreach has been received really really
well. So for us it's about going faster
and more efficient and making sure that
the resources that we have internally
are aligned with how fast we need to go.
So, we're very hyperfocused internally
of just spending every minute and every
hour in a very intentional way that's
going to help us reach more restaurants.
But, we've had such a I mean, I have to
give my, you know, tip my hat over to
the team and tip my hat over to Alex
Rashopie who is the founder and CEO of
Kitchen Sync. He's really laid out the
vision and the commitment to to this
mission. So, I want to give him a shout
out too. If it wasn't for him, none of
this would be happening. But, you know,
I I I think for us, it's about
dedicating the right partnerships,
dedicating the right spend approach. Um,
for for anybody that's watching that's
sort of like in an early stage startup,
you realize that going lean and and sort
of like being efficient in your focus
points is uh is really could be the
difference between making it or not. So
right now what we're focusing on is a
lot of brand recognition, a lot of
social equity, you know, doing the right
case studies with the right partners,
partnering with some of our Michelin
star chefs that have that have allowed
us to uh to partner together and uh and
not really taking my word for for it,
but taking the word of so many client
that are at Kitchen Sync and could sort
of help funnel that message much faster
than we can. Yeah. Nice. Royce, I wanted
to ask what's what's been like one of
the success stories that you know that
come to mind and you're like, you know
what, I'm proud of what I do. Yeah.
Yeah. I hate to go back to the to the
ex-girlfriend, but I'll talk about toast
again. And and the truth is, look, like
I joined that company without really any
clear understanding of what was going to
happen. I had no idea we were going to
grow at the speed we did. And I got
really passion passionate about getting
there. But I I would say like I would
say throughout my career, what I think
about every day is having the
opportunity to have a successful exit,
be in the New York Stock Exchange
Center, and ring the bell when Toast
IPOed. And it's not just because like,
hey, look at us. We did such a great
job. Because that's part of it, but it
was like all the sleepless nights and
all the and all the hard work and
everything that went on to getting us to
that point is also great. But the best
part about it is the life change that
happened for so many people around me.
So, what gets me out of bed every day is
is is the fact that once you sort of
like I don't know if if any of you guys
are into sports, but like I'm a boxing
man myself. You're a boxing guy, but
I'll talk about I'll talk about a sport
in the States. Okay. So, like the NBA
and you think about LeBron James and you
think about Kobe Bryant and some of the
guys that you may know, it's like, man,
they hoist that trophy at the end of the
year and then something happens where
they want to do it again. And it's like
you kind of ask yourself like why why do
you why like you already did it why do
you want to do it again? But there's
something about experiencing that moment
and wanting to do it again because once
you experience it once all you think
about is being able to do it again. And
what what I would look back and say this
was a massive success in my career is
that because I was able to ring the bell
toast and kind of hoist that trophy and
have that moment. I was able to set my
mom up. I was able to set my family up.
I was able to uh give my friends
opportunities and sort of focus on other
areas outside of myself for a little
while. So, I would say that that's been
it's been pretty cool at a at a younger
point in my career to have had that exit
and and be able to uh give back to the
people around me. Nice. That's that that
dog in you that Kobe Bryant and some of
the greats have. Yeah.
And I think and I think it's definitely
the bug as well cuz kind of once you you
put the work behind the closed doors in
and and then the fruits of your labor
actually show. I think that's that
motivation there is in incomparable in
my opinion to be honest. Yeah, dude.
100%. Super incomparable. It's it's it's
what we all it's what we're all here
for, right? Like and you know we all
have like a finite time on Earth, man.
And it's like and like we don't talk
about that a lot because it's not like a
cool thing to talk about, but it's like
what are we all doing with like the
temporary life that we have and the
energy that we have like and why does it
even matter? And like so when we wake up
every day like why why are we doing the
things we're doing? And um and if I
could give any advice to anybody, it's
like find what your why is and find out
like what the heck you're doing this to
begin with. And if you could have that
anchored in, then like everything else
gets a lot easier. Yeah. No, I 100%
agree with that. Even when um me and
Josh and other business partner, we
started NA, we that's literally what we
sat down and conversed about that what
why what is the reason? What is that
reason why? And we all understood it's
bigger than us. It's not just for us,
it's for our families, for our
communities, the people around us. And I
think there that motivation there is
it's next level. And that's why you have
us here at 10 10:30 still moving the
needle at night. Let's go, man. That's
what it's about. Everybody that's
watching, I don't know if they know
this, but it's 10:00 their time and
they're out there hustling, man. It's
amazing. I can tell that you guys are
are like genuine and um and and have a
pursuit for a mission and um and I'm I'm
I'm honored to to to be a small part of
like your your your journey here. So, I
appreciate you guys inviting me. I'm big
fan already of everything you guys are
doing. No, Roy is definitely a big fan
of you as well. Even after even after
our first call we had, I called Josh. I
was pumped up. I said, "Now Royce, I
like him. He's energy, the fire, and the
desire and the motivation. It shows and
even the way you speak, the passion, it
definitely does shine through."
Honestly, Royce, definitely grateful to
have you on today as well. I appreciate
that. Same goes to you guys, man. Yeah,
I can feel it in my veins. I don't think
I'm going to sleep tonight if I'm
honest.
I'll be I might Don't sleep tonight,
bro. It's Friday. Don't sleep tonight.
I might I might just book a flight to
Miami.
Josh Josh, give me the green light, man.
No, we'll make it happen.
Well, yeah. No, I was going to say no.
Go on. Go on, Josh. I was just going to
say, Royce, I know we were speaking
about goals, ambitions, and so forth.
Um, we're halfway through 2025. The year
has gone super rapidly, but what's in
the without giving us too much
information or inside information, you
know, but you know, what have you got
planned? Like what's some of the goals
that you're trying to reach for the end
of the year? are you're talking about
professionally, right? Professionally,
ambitiously,
um it could be materialistically,
you know, that is like it's hard to
answer the professional one without like
sort of getting too too deep into like
sort of the things that we have cooking.
But, you know, for us it's going to be
about just I'll go back to it and it's
and it's going to and I don't say this
because it's a trigger word. in the next
six months, we feel that there's going
to be a lot of development behind
artificial intelligence and AI. And what
keeps me up at night and sort of my goal
and what would make me feel really good
come like New Year's Eve on December
31st is like, okay, when I look at the
landscape and when I look at the
category and everybody that's in our
space, I feel really good about our
pursuit and I feel really good about our
effort and our due diligence in
incorporating AI in everything that we
do. And I feel really good about being
open about it and making sure that our
engineering team and our product team is
hyperfocused on it too. And um so so
when I'm looking over the next six
months, it's it's that's all we talk
about right now is really just advancing
and moving the needle and ensuring that
our dev team has the right focus on what
can be the biggest, largest, most
transcending technology that's ever been
created. And I say that because it's
it's it's it's true. And it's it's crazy
how many people are walking around today
that have no idea that this is cooking
up behind the scenes. And then obviously
like you and I and you guys you guys
talk to so many business leaders and uh
I'm privy to be in the tech space where
we sort of like see it already, but like
you talk to your day-to-day usual person
and it's like it's like I don't know
like how do you not even have a app on
your phone, you know? It's crazy. It's
crazy. So, like it's about doubling down
and making sure the next six months
we're really focused on what could be
the the biggest advancement ever. How
many times have we been able to say that
in our lifetime? Not many. Not many.
Maybe maybe never.
Maybe never. So, I wake up every day
saying, "How can we develop faster and
how can we include more AI to everything
that we're doing from the product to our
internal motion? How can how can we get
faster and smarter there? Oh, it's truly
amazing. Now, Roy, it's been very very
insightful conversation and very very
motivating conversation as as Josh said,
the the fire is definitely burning
through the veins and the body for sure.
So, um Royce, for our viewers listening,
they kind of want to find a bit more
about yourself or Kitchen Sync. What
would be the best way for them to reach
out? Yeah, if if you want to go ahead
and find out a little bit more about
Kitchen Sync, you can visit us at
kitchensync. us. Um there's tons of
information there as well. If you want
to connect with me on LinkedIn, you can
find me on my first name which is
located on the bottom of the screen,
Royce Luca, and I'm happy to chat with
you. Drop me a ping, hit me with a DM.
But yeah, I enjoyed this conversation
and and something tells me we got we got
to do this again. 100%. No, most
definitely. That's already in the plans
for sure. I love I much appreciate again
for your time today, Royce. And this
another wrap-up for another episode in
the Vice Shift, Roy. Much appreciated
again. Thank you. Thank you, Royce. We
appreciate you, man. Thank you. Thank
you, guys. Nice. Thank you.