The InForm Fitness Podcast

Is it possible to actually be stronger in your 60’s than you were in your 30’s? It is if you ask Broadway theatrical lighting designer, Ann Wrightson! Ann has been an InForm Fitness client for 15 years and is stronger than ever. Did we mention that Ann has been nominated for a Tony Award? For her impressive resume and examples of her lighting designs visit https://www.annwrightson.com To find an Inform Fitness location nearest you visit www.InformFitness.com. To purchase Adam Zickerman’s book, Power of 10: The Once-a-Week Slow Motion Fitness Revolution click this link to visit Amazon: http://bit.ly/ThePowerofTen If you would like to produce a podcast of your own just like The Inform Fitness Podcast, please email Tim Edwards at tim@InBoundPodcasting.com or visit www.InBoundPodcasting.com

Show Notes

Is it possible to actually be stronger in your 60’s than you were in your 30’s? It is if you ask Broadway theatrical lighting designer, Ann Wrightson!
Ann has been an InForm Fitness client for 15 years and is stronger than ever. Did we mention that Ann has been nominated for a Tony Award? For her impressive resume and examples of her lighting designs visit https://www.annwrightson.com

To find an Inform Fitness location nearest you visit www.InformFitness.com.
To purchase Adam Zickerman’s book, Power of 10: The Once-a-Week Slow Motion Fitness Revolution click this link to visit Amazon: http://bit.ly/ThePowerofTen

40 Being Stronger In Your 60's Than In Your 30's Transcript

SUMMARY KEYWORDS
annie, eat, plateaus, strong, strength training, week, lost, podcast, wrightson, inform, strength, years, workout, fitness, weight, pilates, find, patience, pounds, plateau


SPEAKERS
Sheila, Ann Wrightson, Mike, Adam, Tim Edwards

 
Ann Wrightson  00:05
I think I've always liked feeling strong. My work is very sedentary. When you are working in theater you sit and you sit literally 8 10 hours a day, you get up you take a break when there's an equity break, otherwise you're sitting. So outside of that I liked being active and I liked being strong. And I also noticed over time, the stronger I was the healthier I was.
 
Tim Edwards  00:31
Inform nation Welcome to the inform fitness podcast, with Adam Zickerman and friends. I'm Tim Edwards with the inbound podcasting network. And this is episode 40 of the inform fitness podcast. Am I the only one clapping never made it before? Yes,
 
Adam  00:52
you are excited though. I'm holding coffee again. I am really excited about this and no but no better person than have Annie Wrightson with us on our 40th time. She's a long term client with a tremendous success story we know are long I forget how long but she will tell you
 
Ann Wrightson  01:15
Yeah, 15 years, 2002
 
Mike  01:20
she's been here for 15 years has an incredible story. And that's why I wanted her to be a guest on the podcast. She's a theatrical lighting designer, and she works all across the country and even in in Europe and Australia occasionally, and but she is most known for she did the lights for August Osage County on Broadway, Tony nominated where on August she was nominated for a Tony Award for design and got us fourth row tickets. It was a phenomenal play, man. Oh,
 
Adam  01:52
cool. Yeah, I know somebody who is
 
Sheila  01:57
a true artist actually.
 
Mike  02:03
It was it was a fantastic and she's so talented. And I've seen lots of her. She showed me a lot of the photographs of some of her work over the years too. And so it's a pleasure to have her here.
 
Tim Edwards  02:12
Annie, will you share with us some of the of the other productions that you've had a hand in,
 
Ann Wrightson  02:16
let me think recently, I did a show at Steppenwolf called here. I'm about to go to Steppenwolf in Chicago and do another show called the Rembrandt. Most of my work is outside of New York and around the country. I work in Portland, Cleveland, Atlanta, Hartford everywhere. It's not always easy to have a steady kind of diet of New York theater. So you work everywhere.
 
Sheila  02:45
Have you ever worked in LA Annie?
 
Ann Wrightson  02:47
I have I actually did another Broadway show called souvenir. Which went to the Playhouse in Brentwood. Oh, okay. Um, in 2006 I think it might have been, um, but LA doesn't have a huge theatre community. So it's
 
Adam  03:09
oddly enough
 
Ann Wrightson  03:10
Yeah. So its a little harder
 
Sheila  03:12
It's not New York and Chicago.
 
Ann Wrightson  03:14
Yeah, it is. Yeah. Yeah, it is.
 
Mike  03:17
Well, Annie, what made you walk in our door back in 2002.
 
Ann Wrightson  03:23
Um, I was training I have been training myself and with at home trainers for a long time when I was 32. I think I took up weightlifting, free weightlifting on my own. And then then I graduated to have a trainer come to the house. So this was a person who came to the house, Laurie Jackson. And she then started coming here to train here and become a teacher. And she thought this protocol was suited for me, I have scoliosis. So I have issues of being able to get like both hands down on the floor behind me. And I, she was concerned over time that I was losing a lot of flexibility and mobility. So she thought this would help that. And over the course of 15 years, that certainly has
 
Mike  04:19
this method, this low weight training.
 
Ann Wrightson  04:20
 Yeah. Just for strength and I think for especially for strength. Mm hmm. Yeah.
 
Mike  04:27
So want to just let everyone know, annie is 67. And she looks a lot younger than 67.
 
Sheila  04:34
No, yes.
 
Mike  04:35
She is. You know, she is a force to be reckoned with.
 
Sheila  04:39
amazing,
 
Mike  04:40
you know, incredible performance when she's working out so so what do you think is made you stayed here? Stay here for so long. I'm like What about the workout is really have you been able to stick with
 
Ann Wrightson  04:52
um, I think I've always liked feeling strong. My work is very sedentary when you are are working in theater, you sit and you sit literally 8 10 hours a day, you get up, you take a break when there's an equity break, otherwise you're sitting. Um, so outside of that I liked being active and I liked being strong. And I also noticed over time, the stronger I was, the healthier I was, um, because sometimes, especially in during technical rehearsals when you're working really long hours in, you're in a cold theater and you're putting stuff up. I know so many designers, especially lighting designers who get sick every single time they do a tech rehearsal. And I don't, I really don't. So I work kind of hard over time to not get sick while I work
 
Mike  05:51
monitoring your health and be as strong as you think that that was the reason why
 
Ann Wrightson  05:55
it's part of it Yeah, yeah, sure.
 
Mike  05:57
Um, how do you think being strong has helped you in your personal life and professional life beyond what you just said?
 
Ann Wrightson  06:05
Well, I also, I have a family history of arthritis. I had a hip replacement, um, eight years ago. So part of it was also just staying strong on both sides of my body so that I don't impact the other good hip, I have the only other good hip I have. And so far, I do have arthritis in it, but I have no pain at all. So I think in 2009, I got a hip replacement, and then I started to do Pilates. I, my right hip had not been replaced yet. And I was so and I was fairly hobbled on the right side, but I started Pilates. The doctor, the orthopedist said stay strong. So I thought, well, I need to stay strong in a way that's kind of controlled and and focused. So besides still lifting, doing strength training here, I added Pilates. And I've done Pilates since. So I do I do a mix of walking, jogging a couple of days a week, pilates, couple days a week and strength training once a week, or sometimes twice a week.
 
Sheila  07:15
That sounds like exactly what I've been doing. I love Pilates. I just added it myself. I love the great act. It's a great in conjunction with the strength training,
 
Ann Wrightson  07:26
Yeah, it really is.
 
Tim Edwards  07:28
When you're on the road, how do you factor this workout into your schedule while you're touring or traveling?
 
Ann Wrightson  07:36
On the road, I do not do strength training. Sometimes I will find a Pilates studio, but my time is really short arms. And I am an early morning person. So I tend to get up at five 530. And I will walk and I will generally walk outside is where is my favorite. So I will walk in almost any city and any most cities have either nice greenways or, or bicycle paths or canal paths that I can find a walk outside in the wintertime harder and harder to do. So I try to find a gym as my least favorite thing to do. But at least I can do it on a treadmill. So I keep that up for the two weeks. I'm on the road.
 
Adam  08:23
I heard you calculate how many of these strength training workouts you do in a year here. How many were they again?
 
Mike  08:29
Well, I was looking before we've been monitoring with our with our system back then it goes back to about 2005. And she's done 330 sessions between 2005 and 2008. That averages out just under 28 per year. So and that's kind of makes sense.
 
Adam  08:45
28 a year
 
Mike  08:45
a little bit more than half the year?
 
Ann Wrightson  08:47
Yeah. 
 
Adam  08:48
so do you feel you've gotten weaker in the last? Since you've been coming here?
 
Ann Wrightson  08:52
weaker?
 
Adam  08:52
Yeah,
 
Ann Wrightson  08:53
no
 
Adam  08:54
Alright. So think about that. She's been only working out 26 times a year strength training, and she does not feel weaker. So I guess it's working enough.
 
Mike  09:00
Oh, you know, what's interesting is the other thing she's doing we were before, like, I mean, really any is 67 looks phenomenal, and is very, very strong. I mean, I would put her in the top, like 1% of anybody is in her age range of over 60. I'm just gonna go down to 60 and above, and even way below that. But what's interesting is when we were talking about that before any you were comparing yourself to your like your 35 year old self, 
 
Ann Wrightson  09:28
right. And I actually think I'm stronger than I was when I was 30.
 
Mike  09:33
That is a testimonial. You know,
 
Ann Wrightson  09:36
I actually do, but I also think because of Pilates. It's just that I feel stronger from like head to toe. Instead of just because when I started when I was 32 I started free weights and I did free weights. I kind of got a book, I figured out a routine. I did ABS I did arms, I did legs, but I think over time because this is a much more kind of complete workout, strength training and Pilates also adds to that. So I just feel like my, the strength of my body is much more cohesive, and and much more complete than than it felt at 35.
 
Mike  10:15
With regards to when you were doing free weights, did you feel? I mean, would the way you were doing them? Did you feel it was unsafe the way you did or you felt like it was? Okay. Um, and then comparing it to the setting you're in now?
 
Ann Wrightson  10:29
Probably was, I would say it probably was on unsafe. I mean, I had a weight bench. I monitored myself. I did my own routines. I probably did them too fast. But I did them and I and I did them religiously. And I liked them a lot. But oh, I would say they probably were unsafe. I never hurt myself doing them. But I think I was lucky.
 
Adam  10:56
And it seems like you never felt like you were putting yourself in harm's way
 
Ann Wrightson  10:58
Yeah. Not certainly consciously not consciously.
 
Adam  11:02
Chances are you probably well, you how intense was the workout? How hard were you pushing yourself?
 
Ann Wrightson  11:06
Well, I don't That's a good question. I would do like three sets of, you know, 10 reps, I would do the one that I thought probably was the one I could have hurt myself on was Roman chairs. I would put a weight on my chest, took my feet under my couch. And I would like go all the way back and up on a bench. And I would do that extension. Yeah. And I would do I love those. But yeah, I so don't think that was safe.
 
Mike  11:35
Well, that'd be there's a lot of people who do a lot of things that they actually really enjoy until it hurts you
 
Ann Wrightson  11:40
Yeah, exactly.
 
Mike  11:41
What's really remarkable, though, over the last few years are some of the changes you've had with your weight. And the focus the that we've really put into that as obviously, you've gotten stronger, and you've felt stronger over the years. And then so what happened a few years ago, what did you What were you thinking about? And why did you
 
Ann Wrightson  12:01
Well, I noticed when I was around 63, 64 That it was harder and harder to take off holiday weight. From Thanksgiving, Christmas, I usually put on five pounds, usually five to seven pounds. And previously, I could take it off pretty well. But it's still weight loss for me is always slow and kind of methodical, like one pound a week, sometimes a little less than that. But I noticed around 63, 64 I couldn't get it off at all, it was taking me months to take off two pounds. And so again, my friend Laurie had found a nutritionist that she liked a lot who and I encountered other nutritionists that I was never very impressed with. But Laurie really liked this person. So I signed on to with Lisa Jublee. And I changed entirely what I ate, went to organic went because I have arthritis in my hands. And I treat it with a lot of remedies and a lot of not medication but remedies. Um, I went gluten free and dairy free and ate mostly a high fat high protein low carb diet. And I did it for Well, I still do it. But over the course of a year I lost 15 pounds. So I went from about 145 down to 130, 131
 
Mike  13:38
with the same exercise regimen with the same pilates once or twice a week.
 
Ann Wrightson  13:43
Yeah
 
Mike  13:43
walking that like a little intermittent jog type of thing.
 
Ann Wrightson  13:46
Yeah. I plateaued at around 135. And I had a really, really hard time getting below that. So Lisa suggested I do inform fitness twice a week, because that kind of training kind of ramps up your metabolism and the ability to burn fat more efficiently.
 
Mike  14:06
I think for you that something finding out that dosage, you know, we advocate it once a week or twice a week, it depends on the person and their health and how intense they can actually the intensity they can tolerate and a lot of different variables but and it's you know, people ask us all the time, which, you know, should I come once a week? Or should I come twice a week and sometimes we don't really know because some people they get the results you're talking about doing it once a week. And you know what's interesting one of the things I want to just make sure it gets mentioned is what I admire about annie is she is so focused and she's very patient with what I refer to as the troubleshooting process, you know, figuring out like what's, what is the the the way to to your results because it actually isn't the exact same frequency or the same exact nutrient intake per person and
 
Adam  14:59
not only that, but it changes for you. It changes you for yourself.
 
Mike  15:03
Right. And it changes possibly in times in your life exactly as, but what I think a lot of people, they throw their arms up in the air, they may get results for a week or two weeks, and then all of a sudden, wait a second, it plateaus, and then it stops. And then they throw their arms up in the air and give up on the process of which may involve a lot of different things. We talked about Adams over the last few podcasts as well, which he's, you know, made tremendous gains, but it's a process. Yeah, but it is. And that's the thing, I just wanted to like, I think it's amazing how, you know, we've figured out, like a two times was actually appropriate for you.
 
Ann Wrightson  15:38
yeah
 
Adam  15:39
it's a really excellent point. I mean, I can't tell you that that is the secret to success. And the word is patience. And one word is patience, and being willing to try something and stick it out. Because you don't know if something works if you just do it for a week. You mean this is something that takes time. And, and realism, patience and realism of the two things mean, understanding what a pound is, you know, and that just because you lost a pound in two weeks, and you're frustrated by that, so you lost a pound every two weeks. For a year. Yeah. All right. You know, you're talking you lost 25 pounds. That's, that's major.
 
Ann Wrightson  16:21
Yeah
 
Adam  16:21
that's major. Yeah, you know, consistently and the thing is, it might take some time to find what works for you. And, again, patience,
 
Sheila  16:31
and what you said before, and it changes in the different phases of your life, what goes on in your 30s or 40s, all of a sudden, you're like, it doesn't work anymore.
 
Adam  16:41
And be observant enough and patient again enough to and willing to make certain changes and tried certain changes. And it's a testament to you Annie because like you know, we can we can give you all the information all the guidance in the world but but for you to have the patience and to actually do it is we don't see it very often. We don't see it enough.
 
Ann Wrightson  17:00
And it really worked. The it was the it was the the silver bullet for me that literally got me past 135 and down to like 130 it took it took a while. But as they've said, I'm I'm willing to be patient about it. And I noticed I also noticed doing this twice a week, I strength ramped up that I noticed I could notice I just noticed, you know, because I do other exercises at home. And I just noticed, just the ability to do them changed. definitely changed.
 
Sheila  17:36
And how many days in between your two routines Do you have?
 
Ann Wrightson  17:40
Oh, I we usually would do Thursday, Monday, Thursday. Yeah, Tuesday. And I changed. I changed up my Pilates routine so that I wasn't back to back because I have a hard time and fine. Back to Back exercising coming here is is gets pretty hard to do.
 
Mike  17:58
You know, another thing that is breaking through that plateau for you is interesting and and intermittent fasting was an element to it,
 
Ann Wrightson  18:11
and i still basically do intermittent fasting I. So I eat for about eight hours out of 24. So I basically do not eat breakfast. I get up early. I'm a 5am riser. So I eat lunch at 11 or 1130 because I'm hungry by then. But I'll have almonds, maybe if I need to kind of have something at like 830 or nine and then I'll eat lunch at 11 and dinner at around seven. And basically that's about it.
 
Mike  18:46
That's seven days a week or, or like five days a week.
 
Ann Wrightson  18:51
Oh, probably probably six to seven, six to seven days a week. Sometimes on the weekend. I'm a little looser, and I eat breakfast because my husband's home and we're a little less intense about getting up and out of the house all he breakfast at like, I'll eat breakfast. Otherwise I don't.
 
Adam  19:11
socially. How do you work in eating like that on a social basis? Do you find it difficult? Do you find are you being judged or you just don't socialize?
 
Ann Wrightson  19:19
Well, I do socialize. I do. I mean there are days where I just like I just went out this past weekend and we went to this place called the meatball shop and I ate meet balls and I had
 
Mike  19:33
Annie's a New Yorker you better believe she socializes
 
Ann Wrightson  19:37
and I and I had an ice cream sandwich and which is two huge cookies and a huge scoop ice cream and I thought I can do this. I mean I do very often but I definitely like I love food so it's nice to have a good time with it. I do find when I'm on the road working I'm really strict about eating Then, and I make my own food, I take my own lunch. And I'm really I don't socialize so much when I'm on the road, because then you tend that you sit for eight hours you then you know, if you've got a bag of pretzels there, that's what you eat. And I don't I take you know, carrot chips or I take something I take nuts and I and I take my lunch and put it in the fridge and so I'm really careful about that
 
Mike  20:30
was it? Was it difficult initially to make those transitions like getting rid of all those, like inflammatory foods and stuff when when Lisa sort of guided you
 
Ann Wrightson  20:41
No, I literally switched gears like overnight over the course of a weekend. I literally just looked at what I needed to shop I shopped it. I stopped I I rearranged it. I keep I do keep a food diary on my fitness pal. I still
 
Adam  20:59
just like a Gretchen Rubin dream. Right? Like, what does that make her? Like? You know, according to her
 
Sheila  21:06
She's an upholder
 
Adam  21:11
told what she had to do. And she just did it
 
Ann Wrightson  21:13
or an obliger Yeah, yeah. And it doesn't. And I find now that I've done it for so long. If I if I like blow it out and eat a lot of carbs, like a few days in a row. I just, I can't do it. I get I don't I it's not comfortable. I can't comfortably do that very often.
 
Mike  21:32
I mean, it's so you're in a pattern where yeah, what serves your body and makes you feel good. And you know that having some indulgences from time to time, whether it's shopping ice cream treat? It's like, yeah, I have the treat.
 
Ann Wrightson  21:44
Yeah. Now I get back on the saddle
 
Adam  21:46
that's reasonable. Your body hardly notices it. 
 
Mike  21:48
Yeah, your body hardly notices. Well, it will, it may notice it, but then you want to you want to quickly get back on the track. Yeah, you're on? Yeah, I think that's the license, I think you you have to earn. If you want those meatball shops and those ice cream sandwiches and those loose social engagements, you have to have a tremendous amount of discipline which you've established yourself. And it's, you know, like, going back to Gretchen Rubin, there's, you know, that was another thing, troubleshooting your own personality and how to actually get it. But the thing is one of the things I wanted to mention about I mean, people don't see any on the podcast, but any, you know, like, and this is, this is a female thing, what I've found watching women over 50 is having a lot of difficulty losing the weight in that midsection area, and Annie has done it. Like she has really, really significantly done what is a lot of people find to be impossible. And I think like setting that goal. And, you know, and working towards it is I think it's just worthy of just mentioning that it's attainable with if you're if you're ready to pursue you know, the trouble, let's say, let's say it's possible, because I don't know if it's attainable for everybody. It may not be
 
Adam  23:02
I mean, but it's definitely possible. If it doesn't happen if that particular thing, losing your little pouches, as I hear refer to a lot. If you if for some reason, because you had five kids and you can't lose a pouch was not lost. I mean, you're still eating a healthy lifestyle, and your health and your healthy. You know, the thing that annie said at the beginning of the broadcast, if you want to call it that is this, I realized that being stronger, was being healthier. And that that's a realization, that's a profound realization that her strength is what made her healthy. We often try to get fit. And many times that the exercise programs we choose to get fit actually do the opposite, then they undermine our health. And the fact that she said that being strong, avoiding sarcopenia, which is one of our early episodes we've done on this podcast, and all the problems that come from that, muscle loss and things like that. You know, it's a profound statement for somebody in our position that hasn't been trained in school and sarcopenia and all that, just to say that she realized that her strength was her health, especially and then and then doing in a safe way. So getting strong doesn't undermine your health. And I think that's an important point to make. And to kind of close with, although I do want to bring up one other thing that Mike brought up, which is not really about Annie and her success, but it's it's something that comes up and the word was used and that is plateau. Want to say something about plateaus for a second. It's only going to take me a minute. That is I think plateaus in some instances in many instances get a bad name as if it's a bad thing that I plateaued
 
Mike  24:48
and we were just talking about that
 
Adam  24:50
you were just talking about that? tell me what I say is actually what yeah, what what you were talking about. This is funny So it's kind of just an observation I make. I mean, the thing about plateaus is, if you come here, how long has it been any 15? Are you coming here 15 years, if you are realistically, or getting strong every single time you came in here, you'd be like Arnold Schwarzenegger by now. There's a limitation to how strong you can get. And the real thing about plateaus,
 
Mike  25:25
you'd be Captain America
 
Adam  25:26
and the analogy, when you're like a starving art artists, right. And you can have trouble paying the rent, every penny that you make counts, but when you're like a millionaire, and a gazillionaire, and you don't ever have to worry about making money ever again, and you make some more money on top of that. It's almost like who the hell cares? And the thing is this, when you're as strong as Annie has gotten, let's say
 
Mike  25:32
and has maintained
 
Adam  25:36
Well, that's the point I'm making about plateaus. I mean, let's say you are 200 300 400%, stronger than you were, like you said, you're stronger now than you were in your 30s. Okay? And you've been maintaining that into your 60s now. Alright, and you've been plateauing at this high level of strength for all this time. I'm thinking that's huge. That's great. That's plateaus, not bad. The fact that but and this is the other thing about plateaus. Also, though, doesn't mean you stop trying to get stronger. That's that's the beauty of this. You keep trying you keep trying to get stronger, you keep looking at your results, still exert patience. And you still tweak, you know, and it's really cool to really see if you can get it higher. Why not? You know, you're here. And it just reminds me and I don't want to set limitations either. Even though we know there are theoretical limitations that we all have. Who wants to set those limitations because it reminds me of when the four minute mile is broken, right? What's the guy's name Bannister? Was that the guy who broke the four minute mile? First one? Yeah. All right. So like before he broke it, the first guy to break and no one thought it could be done. As soon as Bannister broke it, all of a sudden, all these people started breaking it soon after, because the belief was there that it can be done. So I don't want to ever set limitations or you can get so strong, you're at your plateau. And I'm really want to talk about plateaus too much. Because that can be a self fulfilling prophecy that, you know, but at the same time, it's not a bad word, especially if you're like, 300% stronger than you were in your 30s?
 
Mike  27:21
Well, I think it's coupled with the expectation of where you would be if you did not do any strength training when you're 67 years old, right? Like, like, Where would she be?
 
Ann Wrightson  27:30
Where would I be talking about
 
Mike  27:32
like if you draw a line and say Annie Wrightson lifts 100 pounds when she's 30 years old, at whatever exercise and at 40 she lifts 100 And at 50 She lifts 100 and it's 60 She lifts 100 and at 70
 
Ann Wrightson  27:46
The thing is, that would be a good plateau
 
Mike  27:49
she'd be declining
 
Sheila  27:51
you're not losing strength
 
Mike  27:52
really is the increase is the delta between where the decline would be and where the plateau is. I don't know if people can understand that through a podcast, but that is Delta's change. Yeah. Okay. But that's, uh, and but that that percentage, which is below the plateau line between the plateau line and we're, you probably may have been lifting or if you didn't do any strength training, or what you possibly could have done if you weren't strength training. That's the big thing that we had so
 
Adam  28:18
alarming, because that's why that siren, yes.
 
Sheila  28:22
On the on the whole topic of plateauing, you can talk about that, as far as, you know, just getting older and people saying, Oh, forget it, I'm never gonna, you know, lose that belly fat, I'm never gonna look as good as I never gonna feel good again. And I'm kind of on that my own journey started with that, you know, in the last month, and I hired a nutritionist and so Annie, you are an inspiration to me. Because it's like, no, I'm going to look the best I can. At my age. I'm going to I'm going to do this, you know, I don't have to settle for Look, I'm just gonna have to deal with this. I'm going to just slowly gain more weight and you know, slowly have to buy more clothes. And, you know, anyway, I just wanted to say I'm very happy to meet you. And I think that you're an inspiration to women, especially. Thank you.
 
Ann Wrightson  29:15
Yeah, thank you so much
 
Adam  29:17
Bravos
 
Mike  29:18
Annie thank you very much for being with us today. We really appreciate it
 
Ann Wrightson  29:21
certainly.
 
Tim Edwards  29:23
much appreciation to 15 years inform fitness client and Tony Award nominee Ann Wrightson for sharing her health journey with us here on the inform fitness podcast. As Sheila mentioned, she is truly an inspiration and living testimony for this slow motion high intensity strength training protocol offered at seven inform fitness locations across the US. To find one near you click on over to informfitness.com The website is chock full of entertaining and educational blog posts written by Adam. You can also see what Adam Mike and Sheila actually look like in their trainer bios and the videos and we invite you to head on over to Amazon to pick up Adams book power of 10 the once a week slow motion fitness revolution. The book itself is only about 13 bucks, and you can download the Kindle version for less than eight. Inside the book you'll find nutritional tips and exercises that can be performed anywhere, even if you're not near an inform fitness location. Alright, so next week, Mike Rogers will be sharing a very personal story about resiliency. We'll discuss how this type of workout can not only keep you healthy in your golden years, but could possibly even save your life. Make sure you're with us for that one. Until then, for Adam, Mike and Sheila with inform fitness. I'm Tim Edwards with the inbound podcasting Network.

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40 Being Stronger In Your 60's Than In Your 30's

SUMMARY KEYWORDS
annie, eat, plateaus, strong, strength training, week, lost, podcast, wrightson, inform, strength, years, workout, fitness, weight, pilates, find, patience, pounds, plateau
SPEAKERS
Sheila, Ann Wrightson, Mike, Adam, Tim Edwards

Ann Wrightson 00:05
I think I've always liked feeling strong. My work is very sedentary. When you are working in theater you sit and you sit literally 8 10 hours a day, you get up you take a break when there's an equity break, otherwise you're sitting. So outside of that I liked being active and I liked being strong. And I also noticed over time, the stronger I was the healthier I was.

Tim Edwards 00:31
Inform nation Welcome to the inform fitness podcast, with Adam Zickerman and friends. I'm Tim Edwards with the inbound podcasting network. And this is episode 40 of the inform fitness podcast. Am I the only one clapping never made it before? Yes,

Adam 00:52
you are excited though. I'm holding coffee again. I am really excited about this and no but no better person than have Annie Wrightson with us on our 40th time. She's a long term client with a tremendous success story we know are long I forget how long but she will tell you

Ann Wrightson 01:15
Yeah, 15 years, 2002

Mike 01:20
she's been here for 15 years has an incredible story. And that's why I wanted her to be a guest on the podcast. She's a theatrical lighting designer, and she works all across the country and even in in Europe and Australia occasionally, and but she is most known for she did the lights for August Osage County on Broadway, Tony nominated where on August she was nominated for a Tony Award for design and got us fourth row tickets. It was a phenomenal play, man. Oh,

Adam 01:52
cool. Yeah, I know somebody who is

Sheila 01:57
a true artist actually.

Mike 02:03
It was it was a fantastic and she's so talented. And I've seen lots of her. She showed me a lot of the photographs of some of her work over the years too. And so it's a pleasure to have her here.

Tim Edwards 02:12
Annie, will you share with us some of the of the other productions that you've had a hand in,

Ann Wrightson 02:16
let me think recently, I did a show at Steppenwolf called here. I'm about to go to Steppenwolf in Chicago and do another show called the Rembrandt. Most of my work is outside of New York and around the country. I work in Portland, Cleveland, Atlanta, Hartford everywhere. It's not always easy to have a steady kind of diet of New York theater. So you work everywhere.

Sheila 02:45
Have you ever worked in LA Annie?

Ann Wrightson 02:47
I have I actually did another Broadway show called souvenir. Which went to the Playhouse in Brentwood. Oh, okay. Um, in 2006 I think it might have been, um, but LA doesn't have a huge theatre community. So it's

Adam 03:09
oddly enough

Ann Wrightson 03:10
Yeah. So its a little harder

Sheila 03:12
It's not New York and Chicago.

Ann Wrightson 03:14
Yeah, it is. Yeah. Yeah, it is.

Mike 03:17
Well, Annie, what made you walk in our door back in 2002.

Ann Wrightson 03:23
Um, I was training I have been training myself and with at home trainers for a long time when I was 32. I think I took up weightlifting, free weightlifting on my own. And then then I graduated to have a trainer come to the house. So this was a person who came to the house, Laurie Jackson. And she then started coming here to train here and become a teacher. And she thought this protocol was suited for me, I have scoliosis. So I have issues of being able to get like both hands down on the floor behind me. And I, she was concerned over time that I was losing a lot of flexibility and mobility. So she thought this would help that. And over the course of 15 years, that certainly has

Mike 04:19
this method, this low weight training.

Ann Wrightson 04:20
Yeah. Just for strength and I think for especially for strength. Mm hmm. Yeah.

Mike 04:27
So want to just let everyone know, annie is 67. And she looks a lot younger than 67.

Sheila 04:34
No, yes.

Mike 04:35
She is. You know, she is a force to be reckoned with.

Sheila 04:39
amazing,

Mike 04:40
you know, incredible performance when she's working out so so what do you think is made you stayed here? Stay here for so long. I'm like What about the workout is really have you been able to stick with

Ann Wrightson 04:52
um, I think I've always liked feeling strong. My work is very sedentary when you are are working in theater, you sit and you sit literally 8 10 hours a day, you get up, you take a break when there's an equity break, otherwise you're sitting. Um, so outside of that I liked being active and I liked being strong. And I also noticed over time, the stronger I was, the healthier I was, um, because sometimes, especially in during technical rehearsals when you're working really long hours in, you're in a cold theater and you're putting stuff up. I know so many designers, especially lighting designers who get sick every single time they do a tech rehearsal. And I don't, I really don't. So I work kind of hard over time to not get sick while I work

Mike 05:51
monitoring your health and be as strong as you think that that was the reason why

Ann Wrightson 05:55
it's part of it Yeah, yeah, sure.

Mike 05:57
Um, how do you think being strong has helped you in your personal life and professional life beyond what you just said?

Ann Wrightson 06:05
Well, I also, I have a family history of arthritis. I had a hip replacement, um, eight years ago. So part of it was also just staying strong on both sides of my body so that I don't impact the other good hip, I have the only other good hip I have. And so far, I do have arthritis in it, but I have no pain at all. So I think in 2009, I got a hip replacement, and then I started to do Pilates. I, my right hip had not been replaced yet. And I was so and I was fairly hobbled on the right side, but I started Pilates. The doctor, the orthopedist said stay strong. So I thought, well, I need to stay strong in a way that's kind of controlled and and focused. So besides still lifting, doing strength training here, I added Pilates. And I've done Pilates since. So I do I do a mix of walking, jogging a couple of days a week, pilates, couple days a week and strength training once a week, or sometimes twice a week.

Sheila 07:15
That sounds like exactly what I've been doing. I love Pilates. I just added it myself. I love the great act. It's a great in conjunction with the strength training,

Ann Wrightson 07:26
Yeah, it really is.

Tim Edwards 07:28
When you're on the road, how do you factor this workout into your schedule while you're touring or traveling?

Ann Wrightson 07:36
On the road, I do not do strength training. Sometimes I will find a Pilates studio, but my time is really short arms. And I am an early morning person. So I tend to get up at five 530. And I will walk and I will generally walk outside is where is my favorite. So I will walk in almost any city and any most cities have either nice greenways or, or bicycle paths or canal paths that I can find a walk outside in the wintertime harder and harder to do. So I try to find a gym as my least favorite thing to do. But at least I can do it on a treadmill. So I keep that up for the two weeks. I'm on the road.

Adam 08:23
I heard you calculate how many of these strength training workouts you do in a year here. How many were they again?

Mike 08:29
Well, I was looking before we've been monitoring with our with our system back then it goes back to about 2005. And she's done 330 sessions between 2005 and 2008. That averages out just under 28 per year. So and that's kind of makes sense.

Adam 08:45
28 a year

Mike 08:45
a little bit more than half the year?

Ann Wrightson 08:47
Yeah.

Adam 08:48
so do you feel you've gotten weaker in the last? Since you've been coming here?

Ann Wrightson 08:52
weaker?

Adam 08:52
Yeah,

Ann Wrightson 08:53
no

Adam 08:54
Alright. So think about that. She's been only working out 26 times a year strength training, and she does not feel weaker. So I guess it's working enough.

Mike 09:00
Oh, you know, what's interesting is the other thing she's doing we were before, like, I mean, really any is 67 looks phenomenal, and is very, very strong. I mean, I would put her in the top, like 1% of anybody is in her age range of over 60. I'm just gonna go down to 60 and above, and even way below that. But what's interesting is when we were talking about that before any you were comparing yourself to your like your 35 year old self,

Ann Wrightson 09:28
right. And I actually think I'm stronger than I was when I was 30.

Mike 09:33
That is a testimonial. You know,

Ann Wrightson 09:36
I actually do, but I also think because of Pilates. It's just that I feel stronger from like head to toe. Instead of just because when I started when I was 32 I started free weights and I did free weights. I kind of got a book, I figured out a routine. I did ABS I did arms, I did legs, but I think over time because this is a much more kind of complete workout, strength training and Pilates also adds to that. So I just feel like my, the strength of my body is much more cohesive, and and much more complete than than it felt at 35.

Mike 10:15
With regards to when you were doing free weights, did you feel? I mean, would the way you were doing them? Did you feel it was unsafe the way you did or you felt like it was? Okay. Um, and then comparing it to the setting you're in now?

Ann Wrightson 10:29
Probably was, I would say it probably was on unsafe. I mean, I had a weight bench. I monitored myself. I did my own routines. I probably did them too fast. But I did them and I and I did them religiously. And I liked them a lot. But oh, I would say they probably were unsafe. I never hurt myself doing them. But I think I was lucky.

Adam 10:56
And it seems like you never felt like you were putting yourself in harm's way

Ann Wrightson 10:58
Yeah. Not certainly consciously not consciously.

Adam 11:02
Chances are you probably well, you how intense was the workout? How hard were you pushing yourself?

Ann Wrightson 11:06
Well, I don't That's a good question. I would do like three sets of, you know, 10 reps, I would do the one that I thought probably was the one I could have hurt myself on was Roman chairs. I would put a weight on my chest, took my feet under my couch. And I would like go all the way back and up on a bench. And I would do that extension. Yeah. And I would do I love those. But yeah, I so don't think that was safe.

Mike 11:35
Well, that'd be there's a lot of people who do a lot of things that they actually really enjoy until it hurts you

Ann Wrightson 11:40
Yeah, exactly.

Mike 11:41
What's really remarkable, though, over the last few years are some of the changes you've had with your weight. And the focus the that we've really put into that as obviously, you've gotten stronger, and you've felt stronger over the years. And then so what happened a few years ago, what did you What were you thinking about? And why did you

Ann Wrightson 12:01
Well, I noticed when I was around 63, 64 That it was harder and harder to take off holiday weight. From Thanksgiving, Christmas, I usually put on five pounds, usually five to seven pounds. And previously, I could take it off pretty well. But it's still weight loss for me is always slow and kind of methodical, like one pound a week, sometimes a little less than that. But I noticed around 63, 64 I couldn't get it off at all, it was taking me months to take off two pounds. And so again, my friend Laurie had found a nutritionist that she liked a lot who and I encountered other nutritionists that I was never very impressed with. But Laurie really liked this person. So I signed on to with Lisa Jublee. And I changed entirely what I ate, went to organic went because I have arthritis in my hands. And I treat it with a lot of remedies and a lot of not medication but remedies. Um, I went gluten free and dairy free and ate mostly a high fat high protein low carb diet. And I did it for Well, I still do it. But over the course of a year I lost 15 pounds. So I went from about 145 down to 130, 131

Mike 13:38
with the same exercise regimen with the same pilates once or twice a week.

Ann Wrightson 13:43
Yeah

Mike 13:43
walking that like a little intermittent jog type of thing.

Ann Wrightson 13:46
Yeah. I plateaued at around 135. And I had a really, really hard time getting below that. So Lisa suggested I do inform fitness twice a week, because that kind of training kind of ramps up your metabolism and the ability to burn fat more efficiently.

Mike 14:06
I think for you that something finding out that dosage, you know, we advocate it once a week or twice a week, it depends on the person and their health and how intense they can actually the intensity they can tolerate and a lot of different variables but and it's you know, people ask us all the time, which, you know, should I come once a week? Or should I come twice a week and sometimes we don't really know because some people they get the results you're talking about doing it once a week. And you know what's interesting one of the things I want to just make sure it gets mentioned is what I admire about annie is she is so focused and she's very patient with what I refer to as the troubleshooting process, you know, figuring out like what's, what is the the the way to to your results because it actually isn't the exact same frequency or the same exact nutrient intake per person and

Adam 14:59
not only that, but it changes for you. It changes you for yourself.

Mike 15:03
Right. And it changes possibly in times in your life exactly as, but what I think a lot of people, they throw their arms up in the air, they may get results for a week or two weeks, and then all of a sudden, wait a second, it plateaus, and then it stops. And then they throw their arms up in the air and give up on the process of which may involve a lot of different things. We talked about Adams over the last few podcasts as well, which he's, you know, made tremendous gains, but it's a process. Yeah, but it is. And that's the thing, I just wanted to like, I think it's amazing how, you know, we've figured out, like a two times was actually appropriate for you.

Ann Wrightson 15:38
yeah

Adam 15:39
it's a really excellent point. I mean, I can't tell you that that is the secret to success. And the word is patience. And one word is patience, and being willing to try something and stick it out. Because you don't know if something works if you just do it for a week. You mean this is something that takes time. And, and realism, patience and realism of the two things mean, understanding what a pound is, you know, and that just because you lost a pound in two weeks, and you're frustrated by that, so you lost a pound every two weeks. For a year. Yeah. All right. You know, you're talking you lost 25 pounds. That's, that's major.

Ann Wrightson 16:21
Yeah

Adam 16:21
that's major. Yeah, you know, consistently and the thing is, it might take some time to find what works for you. And, again, patience,

Sheila 16:31
and what you said before, and it changes in the different phases of your life, what goes on in your 30s or 40s, all of a sudden, you're like, it doesn't work anymore.

Adam 16:41
And be observant enough and patient again enough to and willing to make certain changes and tried certain changes. And it's a testament to you Annie because like you know, we can we can give you all the information all the guidance in the world but but for you to have the patience and to actually do it is we don't see it very often. We don't see it enough.

Ann Wrightson 17:00
And it really worked. The it was the it was the the silver bullet for me that literally got me past 135 and down to like 130 it took it took a while. But as they've said, I'm I'm willing to be patient about it. And I noticed I also noticed doing this twice a week, I strength ramped up that I noticed I could notice I just noticed, you know, because I do other exercises at home. And I just noticed, just the ability to do them changed. definitely changed.

Sheila 17:36
And how many days in between your two routines Do you have?

Ann Wrightson 17:40
Oh, I we usually would do Thursday, Monday, Thursday. Yeah, Tuesday. And I changed. I changed up my Pilates routine so that I wasn't back to back because I have a hard time and fine. Back to Back exercising coming here is is gets pretty hard to do.

Mike 17:58
You know, another thing that is breaking through that plateau for you is interesting and and intermittent fasting was an element to it,

Ann Wrightson 18:11
and i still basically do intermittent fasting I. So I eat for about eight hours out of 24. So I basically do not eat breakfast. I get up early. I'm a 5am riser. So I eat lunch at 11 or 1130 because I'm hungry by then. But I'll have almonds, maybe if I need to kind of have something at like 830 or nine and then I'll eat lunch at 11 and dinner at around seven. And basically that's about it.

Mike 18:46
That's seven days a week or, or like five days a week.

Ann Wrightson 18:51
Oh, probably probably six to seven, six to seven days a week. Sometimes on the weekend. I'm a little looser, and I eat breakfast because my husband's home and we're a little less intense about getting up and out of the house all he breakfast at like, I'll eat breakfast. Otherwise I don't.

Adam 19:11
socially. How do you work in eating like that on a social basis? Do you find it difficult? Do you find are you being judged or you just don't socialize?

Ann Wrightson 19:19
Well, I do socialize. I do. I mean there are days where I just like I just went out this past weekend and we went to this place called the meatball shop and I ate meet balls and I had

Mike 19:33
Annie's a New Yorker you better believe she socializes

Ann Wrightson 19:37
and I and I had an ice cream sandwich and which is two huge cookies and a huge scoop ice cream and I thought I can do this. I mean I do very often but I definitely like I love food so it's nice to have a good time with it. I do find when I'm on the road working I'm really strict about eating Then, and I make my own food, I take my own lunch. And I'm really I don't socialize so much when I'm on the road, because then you tend that you sit for eight hours you then you know, if you've got a bag of pretzels there, that's what you eat. And I don't I take you know, carrot chips or I take something I take nuts and I and I take my lunch and put it in the fridge and so I'm really careful about that

Mike 20:30
was it? Was it difficult initially to make those transitions like getting rid of all those, like inflammatory foods and stuff when when Lisa sort of guided you

Ann Wrightson 20:41
No, I literally switched gears like overnight over the course of a weekend. I literally just looked at what I needed to shop I shopped it. I stopped I I rearranged it. I keep I do keep a food diary on my fitness pal. I still

Adam 20:59
just like a Gretchen Rubin dream. Right? Like, what does that make her? Like? You know, according to her

Sheila 21:06
She's an upholder

Adam 21:11
told what she had to do. And she just did it

Ann Wrightson 21:13
or an obliger Yeah, yeah. And it doesn't. And I find now that I've done it for so long. If I if I like blow it out and eat a lot of carbs, like a few days in a row. I just, I can't do it. I get I don't I it's not comfortable. I can't comfortably do that very often.

Mike 21:32
I mean, it's so you're in a pattern where yeah, what serves your body and makes you feel good. And you know that having some indulgences from time to time, whether it's shopping ice cream treat? It's like, yeah, I have the treat.

Ann Wrightson 21:44
Yeah. Now I get back on the saddle

Adam 21:46
that's reasonable. Your body hardly notices it.

Mike 21:48
Yeah, your body hardly notices. Well, it will, it may notice it, but then you want to you want to quickly get back on the track. Yeah, you're on? Yeah, I think that's the license, I think you you have to earn. If you want those meatball shops and those ice cream sandwiches and those loose social engagements, you have to have a tremendous amount of discipline which you've established yourself. And it's, you know, like, going back to Gretchen Rubin, there's, you know, that was another thing, troubleshooting your own personality and how to actually get it. But the thing is one of the things I wanted to mention about I mean, people don't see any on the podcast, but any, you know, like, and this is, this is a female thing, what I've found watching women over 50 is having a lot of difficulty losing the weight in that midsection area, and Annie has done it. Like she has really, really significantly done what is a lot of people find to be impossible. And I think like setting that goal. And, you know, and working towards it is I think it's just worthy of just mentioning that it's attainable with if you're if you're ready to pursue you know, the trouble, let's say, let's say it's possible, because I don't know if it's attainable for everybody. It may not be

Adam 23:02
I mean, but it's definitely possible. If it doesn't happen if that particular thing, losing your little pouches, as I hear refer to a lot. If you if for some reason, because you had five kids and you can't lose a pouch was not lost. I mean, you're still eating a healthy lifestyle, and your health and your healthy. You know, the thing that annie said at the beginning of the broadcast, if you want to call it that is this, I realized that being stronger, was being healthier. And that that's a realization, that's a profound realization that her strength is what made her healthy. We often try to get fit. And many times that the exercise programs we choose to get fit actually do the opposite, then they undermine our health. And the fact that she said that being strong, avoiding sarcopenia, which is one of our early episodes we've done on this podcast, and all the problems that come from that, muscle loss and things like that. You know, it's a profound statement for somebody in our position that hasn't been trained in school and sarcopenia and all that, just to say that she realized that her strength was her health, especially and then and then doing in a safe way. So getting strong doesn't undermine your health. And I think that's an important point to make. And to kind of close with, although I do want to bring up one other thing that Mike brought up, which is not really about Annie and her success, but it's it's something that comes up and the word was used and that is plateau. Want to say something about plateaus for a second. It's only going to take me a minute. That is I think plateaus in some instances in many instances get a bad name as if it's a bad thing that I plateaued

Mike 24:48
and we were just talking about that

Adam 24:50
you were just talking about that? tell me what I say is actually what yeah, what what you were talking about. This is funny So it's kind of just an observation I make. I mean, the thing about plateaus is, if you come here, how long has it been any 15? Are you coming here 15 years, if you are realistically, or getting strong every single time you came in here, you'd be like Arnold Schwarzenegger by now. There's a limitation to how strong you can get. And the real thing about plateaus,

Mike 25:25
you'd be Captain America

Adam 25:26
and the analogy, when you're like a starving art artists, right. And you can have trouble paying the rent, every penny that you make counts, but when you're like a millionaire, and a gazillionaire, and you don't ever have to worry about making money ever again, and you make some more money on top of that. It's almost like who the hell cares? And the thing is this, when you're as strong as Annie has gotten, let's say

Mike 25:32
and has maintained

Adam 25:36
Well, that's the point I'm making about plateaus. I mean, let's say you are 200 300 400%, stronger than you were, like you said, you're stronger now than you were in your 30s. Okay? And you've been maintaining that into your 60s now. Alright, and you've been plateauing at this high level of strength for all this time. I'm thinking that's huge. That's great. That's plateaus, not bad. The fact that but and this is the other thing about plateaus. Also, though, doesn't mean you stop trying to get stronger. That's that's the beauty of this. You keep trying you keep trying to get stronger, you keep looking at your results, still exert patience. And you still tweak, you know, and it's really cool to really see if you can get it higher. Why not? You know, you're here. And it just reminds me and I don't want to set limitations either. Even though we know there are theoretical limitations that we all have. Who wants to set those limitations because it reminds me of when the four minute mile is broken, right? What's the guy's name Bannister? Was that the guy who broke the four minute mile? First one? Yeah. All right. So like before he broke it, the first guy to break and no one thought it could be done. As soon as Bannister broke it, all of a sudden, all these people started breaking it soon after, because the belief was there that it can be done. So I don't want to ever set limitations or you can get so strong, you're at your plateau. And I'm really want to talk about plateaus too much. Because that can be a self fulfilling prophecy that, you know, but at the same time, it's not a bad word, especially if you're like, 300% stronger than you were in your 30s?

Mike 27:21
Well, I think it's coupled with the expectation of where you would be if you did not do any strength training when you're 67 years old, right? Like, like, Where would she be?

Ann Wrightson 27:30
Where would I be talking about

Mike 27:32
like if you draw a line and say Annie Wrightson lifts 100 pounds when she's 30 years old, at whatever exercise and at 40 she lifts 100 And at 50 She lifts 100 and it's 60 She lifts 100 and at 70

Ann Wrightson 27:46
The thing is, that would be a good plateau

Mike 27:49
she'd be declining

Sheila 27:51
you're not losing strength

Mike 27:52
really is the increase is the delta between where the decline would be and where the plateau is. I don't know if people can understand that through a podcast, but that is Delta's change. Yeah. Okay. But that's, uh, and but that that percentage, which is below the plateau line between the plateau line and we're, you probably may have been lifting or if you didn't do any strength training, or what you possibly could have done if you weren't strength training. That's the big thing that we had so

Adam 28:18
alarming, because that's why that siren, yes.

Sheila 28:22
On the on the whole topic of plateauing, you can talk about that, as far as, you know, just getting older and people saying, Oh, forget it, I'm never gonna, you know, lose that belly fat, I'm never gonna look as good as I never gonna feel good again. And I'm kind of on that my own journey started with that, you know, in the last month, and I hired a nutritionist and so Annie, you are an inspiration to me. Because it's like, no, I'm going to look the best I can. At my age. I'm going to I'm going to do this, you know, I don't have to settle for Look, I'm just gonna have to deal with this. I'm going to just slowly gain more weight and you know, slowly have to buy more clothes. And, you know, anyway, I just wanted to say I'm very happy to meet you. And I think that you're an inspiration to women, especially. Thank you.

Ann Wrightson 29:15
Yeah, thank you so much

Adam 29:17
Bravos

Mike 29:18
Annie thank you very much for being with us today. We really appreciate it

Ann Wrightson 29:21
certainly.

Tim Edwards 29:23
much appreciation to 15 years inform fitness client and Tony Award nominee Ann Wrightson for sharing her health journey with us here on the inform fitness podcast. As Sheila mentioned, she is truly an inspiration and living testimony for this slow motion high intensity strength training protocol offered at seven inform fitness locations across the US. To find one near you click on over to informfitness.com The website is chock full of entertaining and educational blog posts written by Adam. You can also see what Adam Mike and Sheila actually look like in their trainer bios and the videos and we invite you to head on over to Amazon to pick up Adams book power of 10 the once a week slow motion fitness revolution. The book itself is only about 13 bucks, and you can download the Kindle version for less than eight. Inside the book you'll find nutritional tips and exercises that can be performed anywhere, even if you're not near an inform fitness location. Alright, so next week, Mike Rogers will be sharing a very personal story about resiliency. We'll discuss how this type of workout can not only keep you healthy in your golden years, but could possibly even save your life. Make sure you're with us for that one. Until then, for Adam, Mike and Sheila with inform fitness. I'm Tim Edwards with the inbound podcasting Network.

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