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We need a new definition of success—one that harmonizes meaning and money.
Imagine diving into your workday with renewed energy, leaving behind the exhaustion or dread of a monotonous grind.
Traditional beliefs about success and the root cause of burnout are the same:
Prove yourself.
Work harder.
Take care of the business, and it will take care of you.
We’re recycling the mindset and practices that keep us stuck. Our souls need a jumpstart into The Age of Humanity.
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I'm your host, Rebecca Fleetwood Hesson, your thrive guide leading you into the new Age of Humanity. I’ve navigated the highs and lows of business and life, from achieving over $40 million in sales, teaching thousands of people around the world about leadership, trust, execution, and productivity to facing burnout, divorce, raising a couple of great humans (one with ADHD), and navigating the uncertainty of starting a business.
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[00:00:00] Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: Welcome back to the Business is Human Podcast. I’m your host, Rebecca Fleetwood Hession, and we’re here to bring you episodes that blend meaningful work with profitable success here to steward what I call the Age of Humanity. I believe if we transform the way we work, we can transform the way that we live. As always, my friendly request: if you like what you hear, hit subscribe so you don’t miss any episode and leave a review to tell the other humans that they might like it too. Always looking to help you and connect with others. Alright, let’s get into it, shall we?
[00:01:00] Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: Welcome back to Business is Human. We’re going to continue a conversation that started, I don’t know, a month or so ago about how men and women communicate differently and how that causes some challenges in business. I have two examples from clients that I’m going to share with you today as an illustration that hopefully will help you reflect on how you can get better, whether you are a man or a woman. And I would love it if you even introduce this topic into your meeting so everybody can get better at it.
[00:02:03] Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: One of my clients, we had already been talking about this topic, that’s what brought it to mind when I published this episode a month or so ago. But change is hard. And so even though we had talked about it in another coaching session just a few weeks ago, it came up again and she had shared with me what she was going to communicate to her leader. And I immediately said, you don’t have enough clarity on the front end of that. She had given all the context, all the reasons why, all who it’s for, which is great, but that’s what women typically do.
[00:03:03] Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: We are the connectors. We make sure that people are gathering and know what’s expected, and men are often, let’s make sure we’re fast and first, and these are in the previous episode, I talked about the biological differences. So from a high testosterone level, men are designed to compete and be fast and first, make sure that coming out of the cave you’re not going to get eaten by the tiger. Women are like, okay, we can go fast and we can be first, but do we have enough supplies? Are we going to survive the trip? Does everybody know where we’re going? Are we unified?
[00:04:04] Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: Both of those are important. And again, don’t come at me and be like, not all men are like that, and not all women like that. I know, I know. I’m just saying from a biology preference perspective. And I went down the path of interviewing some men and some women about this just to make sure it was resonating. And so I feel good about this topic, so it’s fine.
[00:04:54] Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: So with this client, she had given all the clarity and all the context and all the, and then at the end it was like the ask, basically, you need to flip that upside down. Here’s the ask, here’s what I want. Give a sentence or two of context about why it matters. And then you’ve got all of the rest of this will be available should this person have additional questions and need more clarification. And she looked at me and she said, oh my gosh, you’re so right because this particular leader also gets distracted easily.
[00:05:59] Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: The second example, this client was going to her client, she’s a consultant. She was going to her client to ask for more resources for this project. Same thing happened. She had given all of the context and all of the details about it and before she could even finish telling him that story, he just interrupted her and he was like, are you just saying you need more help? And she was kind of flustered because he interrupted her and she said, yeah. He was like, okay, I’m telling you. Get to the point ladies.
[00:06:59] Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: Well guess what happened? Everybody started putting their own context story together. And because oftentimes in business we have a bit of a negativity bias, a little bit of a fear of is this being done to me? And so the stories that they created in their own head, because there wasn’t enough context in the message, just clarity, stirred up all kinds of stuff that took a whole lot longer then to go have additional conversations with people to get ’em calmed back down.
[00:08:12] Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: Whenever there’s change and uncertainty, we bring our own story to the party. And so the more that we can be kind and clear and contextual about who it’s for, why it matters, it just makes for a better conversation. Then if people have additional questions, great, but we can’t have one without the other. And it’s been my experience that typically men are better at clarity upfront and asking for what they need or telling what’s going to happen. And women are better at telling who it’s for and why it matters.
[00:09:14] Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: So if you can combine those two with the clarity first and then the context, give it a try. See how it goes. Look at your communication plans for projects, things that you’ve got that you need to send emails out or have presentations in a meeting, whatever you’re communicating over the next week, take a look at your schedule, take a look at your task list and ask yourself, okay, what am I communicating next week? And then I want you to ask yourself, am I kind and clear upfront? And then two, have I added who is this for and why it matters. The context, clarity and context.
[00:10:06] Rebecca Fleetwood Hession: Let me know how it goes. It’s a short little episode today, partly because I’m leaving on vacation and I wanted to make sure you had stuff while I’m gone. But we don’t need to ponder any more than that. There you go. Love you, mean it.