ATX Metal Podcast

The Breakdown
Join Ryan Rayle and Andy Flores as they discuss the evolution of the San Antonio music scene, the importance of community, and the power of platforms like The Hive and The Rock Box in supporting local bands. Discover practical tips for artists, the impact of technology, and future plans for community-driven events.

Episode Info
Band IG: https://www.instagram.com/the_hive_satx/
Band Website: https://www.facebook.com/thehivesatx/
ATXMP Website: https://atxmp.transistor.fm/

Subscribe to ATX Metal Podcast on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@ATXMetalPodcast

Sponsors / Affiliates
Come and Take It Productions: https://www.comeandtakeitproductions.com
Come and Take It Live: https://www.comeandtakeitlive.com/
No Control Radio: https://www.klbjfm.com/show/no-control/

Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Guest Introduction
02:05 The Evolution of The Hive and The Rock Box
03:56 COVID's Impact on the Music Scene
07:03 Supporting Local Bands and Community Building
10:03 The Role of Technology and Platforms
15:02 Future Plans and Community Events
20:04 The Power of Community in Music
25:07 Supporting New and Emerging Bands
30:00 The Importance of Professionalism and Etiquette
35:13 The Use of AI and Digital Tools in Music Promotion
40:08 Upcoming Events and How to Get Involved

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Ryan Rayle (00:01.345)
What's up everybody? Ryan ATX Metal Podcast back again on As the Mug Says Sunday Fun Day. I am here with Mr. Andy Flores of Exposed Underground. a long time. I will call him a friend. Most will say acquaintance based off of our, you know, time with each other. I don't have we ever like hung out in person. This is something I was thinking about too. Yeah.

Andy Flores (00:24.226)
We have never hung out in person because we met right before the shit hit the fan with COVID. And and that was that was fun.

Ryan Rayle (00:31.331)
Yeah. Yeah. Well

was a whole thing. It was a whole thing. Well I tell you what, everyone knows who I am. introduce yourself, where you're from, what you do, and what's your what's your current favorite song happening right now?

Andy Flores (00:46.506)
Oof. Okay. So I need to think about that one. Hi everyone. Gotcha. Hi everyone. My name's Andy Flores. I'm in San Antonio, Texas. I I'm currently the locals booker at the Rockbox in San Antonio. I handle all the local events, handle everything else that is local that's going through there. I also am the owner of the Hive. The Hive is a production, not really a production company anymore. It's more of a branding and a publicist and

Ryan Rayle (00:51.255)
We can circle back to that.

Andy Flores (01:16.14)
Making sure I can help the bands how I need to. Just to kind of push everybody through and get everything done how they need to do it properly and not just sending an email and saying, Hey, can we play?

Ryan Rayle (01:27.087)
Yeah.

man. And and well sir is that all you said you've you got a quite the resume, sir.

Andy Flores (01:36.154)
I can keep going, but yeah, I'll take up all thirty minutes, bro. I mean, w we've been through we've we've all been through a lot of stuff. We've all been through through this, and my main focus is making sure I can help somebody, helping a band, helping out whoever I can, 'cause that's the main thing is I w I went through the shit. I've done it. I I've I've been screwed over on on pay. I've been cut off bills, I've been

Going to going to shows in different towns and then like, well we we sorry we didn't call you, but we don't need w we're not we're not gonna let y'all play. This show cancelled or w it's something will come up. So I've been through that. I'm I'm trying to expand and get all the bands situated for it. So that they don't have to deal with it. That's my main thing right now is is with the hive. So

Ryan Rayle (02:17.934)
Mm.

Ryan Rayle (02:23.426)
Okay.

Ryan Rayle (02:28.035)
Gotcha. So exposed underground, it went it kind of it kind of morphed a little bit, is what you're saying.

Andy Flores (02:35.146)
I've had the hive idea for a good

I guess since the first time we had talked, the hive was in its infant stage.

Ryan Rayle (02:44.505)
Well, tell what, yeah. Let's let's let's start, let's just start there. Let's let's rewind the tape about, I don't know, six years back to the middle of April 2020. I was on episode andy was actually my on the ninth episode of my little series called Locked in the Closet during COVID. And that was actually the very first little journey that I took.

on my own because my co my the co-founder of of the podcast, my boy Chris. he was just I mean, I'm pretty sure COVID had a little bit to do with it about because, you know, we used to do these in person and, you know, the way that they're they're now conducted for the most part. and he's a he was just kinda I guess he was kinda burn out. He was just like, hey man, you know, podcast is yours run with it. And I was like, well, you know, when COVID hit, we got told to just

Go home and stay inside. And in my head, I was like, man, what could I do to fill that time? Because I was at the time working for Kia as a master mechanic. And Andy here, he is also you still doing mobile mechanic stuff or okay, so so this is where we connect on on another level is the automotive side. and and so him being a mobile mechanic and also being in the music.

Andy Flores (03:41.773)
State side.

Andy Flores (03:56.49)
I'm still this is my ninth year strong, buddy.

Ryan Rayle (04:11.553)
music scene down in San Antonio. I wanted to reach out to him and just see what life was like for him going through COVID. So that's what the whole series is about, locked in the closet. I think there's 25 episodes. So if you want to go back, just search. I I literally typed it in today. I was like, man, what episode was that? And I just searched ATX Metal Podcast, Exposed. It's X P O S E D, Exposed Underground. And on Spotify, let's see, I'll pull it up real quick. I can't share it on my screen, but it's

Andy Flores (04:23.511)
Mm-hmm.

Andy Flores (04:27.586)
Mm-hmm.

Ryan Rayle (04:41.891)
Yes, just right there. Come on, Cameron.

Andy Flores (04:44.685)
Catch up.

Ryan Rayle (04:50.169)
So yeah, it was it was really cool to listen to it. And we were actually just joking about I wanted to pull it off the web, remaster it and send it back up. But then it's like there's this nostalgia factor to it. That's that's what yeah, did you gotta like I was I was literally locked in well, I wasn't locked, but I was in a closet how you know, so how most vocalists start, you know, screaming in the closet, you know. but anywho, enough enough of that.

Andy Flores (05:05.131)
You gotta hear the graininess of it.

Ryan Rayle (05:19.405)
That's where like our relationship form and maybe a few years before that, or or s I can't remember the the time frame.

Andy Flores (05:26.302)
yeah, no, it it was mainly a lot of yeah, it was mainly a lot of not even emails. It was just messenger back and forth for a good minute and then hey, how you been? How you doing? Blah blah blah. Then you were then you were like, Hey, I'm starting this and I'm starting this and well fuck it, let's do it.

Ryan Rayle (05:31.661)
Yeah. Just messenger.

Ryan Rayle (05:37.364)
Mm-hmm. I was just yeah, I was texting you. Yeah. Yeah, man. well, it's good. It's good to it's good to see you. You look good. I know we had a little technical difficulties here, but what what would a good show be if it didn't have technical difficulties? so let's let's just for those that don't know you or Exposed Underground or The Hive or The Rock Box or anything about just tell us.

Andy Flores (05:49.047)
Thank you. yeah.

Exactly, exactly.

Ryan Rayle (06:06.713)
Tell us what the people need to know.

Andy Flores (06:09.535)
Okay. So the rock box is the premier venue in San Antonio. what the rock box is is that we have all the national acts running through there. We have all all types of music. We're not just strictly to rock. Me personally, I like the metal. I like the rock. I don't want to be there for a Banda event or nothing like that. But you know, if I have to be, I will be. But as far as everything, it's

Ryan Rayle (06:29.433)
Mm-hmm.

Andy Flores (06:36.257)
The rock box is the premier venue. We don't have too many venues anymore. We have a lot of indie, so to speak. I guess back in our day it would be called alternative music. But now it's I I there's so many subgenres of a subgenre that I can't even figure out what is what. So we're just everybody can submit, everybody can put their email in, send their info.

Ryan Rayle (06:48.057)
Right.

Ryan Rayle (06:56.067)
Yeah.

Andy Flores (07:03.073)
Shameless plug, locals at SA Li not SA Life, locals at therockboxsa.com. Sorry, that's a mouthful. Yeah, if anybody wants if any if any bands, anybody listening, you're more than welcome to submit your stuff and then I you'll be talking to me. So so you can put a face to the actual email and the name and everything.

Ryan Rayle (07:11.855)
I'll put it back in the I'll put it in the comments.

Ryan Rayle (07:23.215)
Actually I'll just I'll just put it like right over your face as you say it. That way it's there. Yeah.

Andy Flores (07:27.137)
Just just pa you have to use the sound effect though though. So but but yeah, as far as that. go ahead.

Ryan Rayle (07:33.593)
Hey man, this shout out to shout out to Riverside. They I'll I'll be able they updated the shit out of this thing, this this online studio. So I will be able to do all the fancy anyway, sorry. I'm back to you.

Andy Flores (07:44.726)
No, by all means give give out give all the shout outs because this is this is the the one that was leading me to that I was gonna start because I want to start doing my my exposed podcast and you know work with you and work with everybody else that we're doing doing the site stuff with. but yeah that's what exposed is about too. Exposed is taking the little guy and giving him a full platform. A full platform to perform at, a a nice venue, just like

Ryan Rayle (07:47.277)
Yeah.

Ryan Rayle (08:08.814)
Yeah.

Andy Flores (08:14.059)
with your stuff that you're doing, Ryan, at come and take it. I mean your stuff has been phenomenal. So congrat kudos and congrats to you because it's not it's it's not for the lighthearted. And it's not for the easy easy feeling herders.

Ryan Rayle (08:17.923)
Mm-hmm.

Ryan Rayle (08:21.817)
Thank you. Thank you, man. It it is

No, no. I I have been and I say this all the time and and I know that it it may sound like I say it just to say it, but I truly believe it okay. If when when bands make music, right, o overall they make music for themselves. This is what I like to play, this is what I like to hear, this is fun to me. And then that transfers to

listeners and followers and fan. I mean, hell look, I'm wearing a fucking Woe Is Me shirt. This, this, I am s I've never seen Woe Is Me. And that was one of my gateway bands back in the day. And they came to they came through with Come and Take It with Jamie's Elsewhere. And and it's like my iPod just came to life with just those two bands. And it it which I'm resurrecting mine. I'm gonna bring that back because I'm always I'm curious like

Andy Flores (09:04.001)
Mm-hmm.

Andy Flores (09:10.764)
Nice.

Andy Flores (09:15.895)
Mm-hmm.

Andy Flores (09:21.175)
man, you're making me feel it with the iPod thing, man.

Ryan Rayle (09:28.995)
What's on it? I gotta find the charger.

Andy Flores (09:29.165)
Shit, I w I'm my daughter my daughter has a C D player now. dude, she's into the C D phase and she doesn't want the Bluetooth headphones. I'm like, that's fine. I have no problem with that. None.

Ryan Rayle (09:35.886)
Yes.

Good.

I'll get you the CD with the anti-skip technology.

Andy Flores (09:45.077)
no no no no she's gotta learn first. Tell me what happens.

Ryan Rayle (09:47.696)
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, sure, go for a run with a C D player. Call call call me on the third step. But but no, I I I do I do believe in this. I that's kind of where I was going. Sorry, it's big circle here, but if I didn't believe in this, what we're doing right now, I wouldn't do it. I would have some other hobby, like, you know, I don't know, building acoustic panels or or gardening or I don't know.

Andy Flores (10:03.821)
No, you're good.

Ryan Rayle (10:16.153)
Discall, you what I mean? I would fill that time with some other interest. Yeah. But this actually, it it not only has value for me, it has value for as many people as it can touch, as many people as it can reach, you know? And I've learned that you really it's not that you need 10,000 fans. You need for for something like this to really like break through.

Andy Flores (10:19.031)
Something something else.

Andy Flores (10:32.619)
Exactly.

Ryan Rayle (10:45.047)
you need a k like the so I'm told and so the internet is said you need ten ten to fifteen thousand people a month to just come and you know support you monthly or you know share your stuff. You d it it's like you need your own little community. And in community there are members. Those members help build that community. it's not a cult. Okay. Let's let me get this straight. Okay. It's not

Andy Flores (11:03.35)
Yeah.

Andy Flores (11:12.493)
You know, back b back in the day it would have been considered a cult. And and and the the fact that what we're doing now it doesn't seem like anything to us. It it's it seems like we're just doing what we know how to do. But then you talk to people and you're like so why are you sending me an email like a text message?

Ryan Rayle (11:14.667)
It's not a cult. Okay.

Probably. Pro c camera.

Ryan Rayle (11:42.467)
Yeah.

Andy Flores (11:45.646)
And bro, I'm not even playing. You the sum of the shit that I have seen and and the unprofessionalism and I'm I as seeing this as a full circle now. And and no I don't I don't know how these band and they're good bands. They're great bands. They just fell off the short stick. And because no one's taught them. No one's taught them etiquette. No one's taught them

Ryan Rayle (11:47.939)
Yeah. It's just

Andy Flores (12:12.749)
How to talk to a promoter. No one's talked them how to do any of that.

Ryan Rayle (12:14.649)
So so what I'm hearing is A and R, artist and repertoire. You you you that's where that's where I'm feeling like I'm I'm landing is

Andy Flores (12:23.423)
I that's exactly where both of us are landing is we we're we're trying to help out these kids and these new bands, but we've been through it. Me and you have been through God knows what. And since we're seasoned in the in in the in the automotive field, automotive's not for everybody. Especially if you worked at a dealership or worked by yourself or a mom and pop.

Ryan Rayle (12:35.332)
Yes.

Ryan Rayle (12:42.255)
Mm-hmm.

Andy Flores (12:50.655)
You you know exact the exact banter I'm talking about. If you if you're not ready to take some criticism and some

Ryan Rayle (12:53.827)
Done them all.

Andy Flores (13:03.063)
Some low end shots to the gut, you know, d don't join that field.

Ryan Rayle (13:05.316)
Yeah.

Ryan Rayle (13:09.123)
Yeah, it's not it's not for the it's a good it's it is a good skill and trade to to have, right? I'm very fortunate that, you know, automotive in general was and I actually didn't even choose that path. Like the Marine Corps chose it for me. They were like, You're working on tanks. Yeah. I was just like

Andy Flores (13:30.935)
Hey, hey, hey, you got it though. You got the work though.

Ryan Rayle (13:35.712)
Okay, I guess I'm working on tanks and then that turned into, you know, wheeled vehicles with contracting and then that turned into automotive here back in the States. but through that journey, one thing that I know that autom mechanics, you know, they like metal. We like rock. We especially if you got a hard problem and you're just and and you've had a tough day and you just want to put a grenade in the engine and send it on its way.

Andy Flores (13:54.89)
yeah.

Andy Flores (14:04.277)
Most of the time you don't have to do anything for that to happen, but yeah. What do you mean I have oil in my car?

Ryan Rayle (14:06.287)
Just let the owner do it. Guess what? You didn't change your oil in 20,000 miles? Well. So anyway, so I I feel like I feel like you and I, we've been in this help people mode for a very long time. And it's one of those blue-collar jobs that

I don't think people really, especially today, do not fully grasp like how fuck man, how like how automotive pay works, right? No one no one when I tell people I was at the shop for eight hours today and made two hours. What do you mean you made two hours? Yeah, flag time. Yeah. So it's terrible. So that's what well that that's one of the reasons why I left. But anyway, this isn't about cars, but it is about cars.

Andy Flores (14:36.075)
Okay.

Andy Flores (14:49.719)
Were you doing we doing we doing flag? yeah, fuck that.

Ryan Rayle (15:02.891)
I've had a lot of music. Yeah, I've had a I have had a lot of music help me get through the day. And if it wasn't it, maybe it wasn't that specific song. Maybe it was just the the the vibe or maybe it was the breakdown or maybe whatever it was, I was just like, I need to listen to this right fucking now. And then play, it's in my earbuds. And then like an hour later the problem is solved because

Andy Flores (15:02.989)
It's about the grand scheme.

Ryan Rayle (15:33.037)
maybe I wasn't in my head so much about the problem. I was just more in the music and and I I don't know how to explain it. It's just it's it's yeah, dude. It's it it is really and then going to shows and you get to let all that fucking you know out. So

Andy Flores (15:40.095)
It's therapy. It it Yeah.

Yeah, it's the it's the ugga chugga therapy. Like I don't know if you I don't know if you've ever gotten into a car to where and and this is where they entin to kind of entwine together. I run into this pretty much weekly. there's one thing on a car, and you know, I got my half-inch impact now. My battery powered. I don't gotta take a compressor with me. That's another world, bro. I got my battery, my battery half inch, and it's

Ryan Rayle (15:49.335)
Yeah. And so landing

Ryan Rayle (16:06.819)
Yeah. No. yeah.

Andy Flores (16:15.935)
It's got Ugga Chugga to it. And literally if you you're on that one bolt just d exactly, just holding it and then that's what kicks in. You're like, hey, I want to hear that song because it sounded like the Ugga Chugga. Tikka Tikka Tikka tikka tikka tikka tikka tikka.

Ryan Rayle (16:26.466)
Yeah.

All of a sudden, yeah, you're like Like that's a blast beat. Is that is this Gojira? Fucking periphery.

Andy Flores (16:38.591)
Ha ha ha.

Ryan Rayle (16:41.887)
Anyway. So I I'm happy that you're resurrecting your that you're that you're, you know, becoming the Phoenix rising from the ashes again. That that your mind is still, you know, that you have enough RAM to to to get that across the finish line. Or at least get it I'm not the finish line, get it across the starting line and and start it going again to help out the bands because I

I would love to just continue helping out bands in any way that I can and having this platform. Plus I'm on the radio now. Not I. We we're on the radio now. Thank you.

Andy Flores (17:17.153)
Yes, congratulations, sir. Congratulations. That is that is phenomenal. So and that th that's something else we're working on too, so

Ryan Rayle (17:23.724)
It's actually

Today's as of this recording, today will be the latest release. Two so the shamus plug. 93.7, no control radio, HD channel two, and Andy can actually attest to this. If you don't know if your car has an HD setting, from about 2015, as far as I know, maybe 2014, a lot of cars coming started coming with HD channels. There's there's more in the frequencies. And here in Austin, it's 93.7

Andy Flores (17:34.125)
Go for it.

Ryan Rayle (17:56.896)
K L B J H D2, eight no control radio where it's nothing, it's literally nothing but metal. It is, it is Chuck Loche just, it's his brainchild just running amuck on a playlist. And he offered me a chance to do an hour long block. And so it's nothing but Texas Metal called the Texas Takeover Sundays, 8 p.m. Central Time, can be found on iHeartRadio, tune in app, or you can just listen live from the from the website. There is no replays. There are no social medias. It is

Andy Flores (18:09.421)
Nice.

Ryan Rayle (18:26.775)
just the one time so if you miss it you miss it and that's what i want it so you're talking about your daughter has the has the cd player that's kind of what i want to press upon you know these bands like hey i'm you know we have chosen your song to be played on the radio which i think is a huge deal everybody it's like who doesn't want to hear your shit on the radio so it's exposure it's expo getting exposed

Andy Flores (18:34.764)
Mm-hmm.

Andy Flores (18:46.175)
It it it yeah, no, it is. It it's a fantastic thing to happen. Exactly. It it I was I was all there you go. There's the that's what the T term was there. But like the no, you're good. no, exposed dude, everything we're doing with exposed, like we did in the past. Let me see if I can get this up for you.

Ryan Rayle (18:59.073)
So tell us about that. I'll shut my mouth.

Ryan Rayle (19:10.927)
yeah. Show me so ladies and gentlemen, he will be the first guest to ever share his screen successfully if we can pull this off.

Andy Flores (19:17.197)
Doom doom doom. Now you fucking jinxed me, asshole.

Ryan Rayle (19:21.921)
God.

Andy Flores (19:25.687)
See, this is the banter that I'm talking about that a lot of people can't handle. So

Ryan Rayle (19:30.745)
Man.

goodness.

Andy Flores (19:35.295)
I about made a kid cry the other day because I'm just talking like I'm talking to you. I'm just shooting the shit. And he thought I was really upset with him. And I'm like I I was like, What are you talking about? I was like, I'm just giving you some shit. Well, I thought you were gonna yell at me. Well why am I gonna yell at you? I don't know you.

Ryan Rayle (19:39.14)
Yeah.

Ryan Rayle (19:42.509)
No. It's just a

Ryan Rayle (19:52.368)
Well, while he's trying to figure out getting the share screen loaded up, 'cause I've already seen it. It's pretty dope. Pretty excited to help kinda promote it. But

Andy Flores (20:04.225)
Well, I'm gonna show you the the other exposed stuff, which I'm going to be doing here again. And this is the this is the kind of stuff that I'm talking about doing for bands and d this goes straight to them. We don't I'm not trying to make money off you. I'm not trying to do anything like that. I'm trying to get you the a product that's good to send out to other venues to get yourself booked, to help with all your stuff. And that's what a lot of people don't understand.

Ryan Rayle (20:17.081)
Mm-hmm.

Ryan Rayle (20:28.463)
Right. Right.

Andy Flores (20:33.805)
And a lot of people will never understand that. So let's see if that shares. Ooh. This is music, sir.

Ryan Rayle (20:38.423)
It did share. Is this music? Okay. this actually has never happened before. So yeah, dude. I'm not a hundred percent sure how the audio is gonna be because I've tried playing music the other way and they're like, yeah, it sounds a little compressed if we talk. So as it plays, I'm just I'd maybe just just let it play.

Andy Flores (20:45.197)
I am a f I'm a fear first.

Andy Flores (21:05.761)
Let's see what happens.

Can you hear anything?

Andy Flores (21:14.909)
Anything going through? Perfect.

Ryan Rayle (21:16.365)
Yeah, I got it.

Ryan Rayle (21:25.295)
Can you can you go for a full screen there?

Ryan Rayle (21:31.597)
Ha ha.

Andy Flores (21:38.712)
So this is what I'm talking about is this is Gandhi's gun from San Antonio, Texas. again, this happened before right before COVID decided to take over the world. But we had a great pool, we had great everything there. And, you know, we're giving you a professional stage to play on. We're giving you professional lighting, professional sound, and everything gets recorded from the board, as well as all these different camera angles you're seeing.

And and I will I will say and give it to Austin that y'all are kicking our butt. y'all y'all are y'all are really kicking our butt right now with the with the new music coming out. new music.

Ryan Rayle (22:13.164)
Nah. Nah.

Ryan Rayle (22:19.221)
new music? Okay, I'll I'll throw I'll throw Austin's hat in the ring, but this wait, it's on my side. This

I I miss doing that. I really miss. I still have all of the basically what's happening right here, I've done it come and take it. I don't know how many times. Multiple camera angles, sound off the board, raw, just like this is what you're missing because we had to do live streams. So we did everything we could do from come and take it, but you actually have way more camera angles than I had three.

Andy Flores (22:48.62)
Yeah.

Ryan Rayle (22:57.805)
Looks like you got five, maybe seven.

Andy Flores (23:00.668)
let's see. One, two, three I had four. Four and then yeah three four and then one mobile. So five, yeah.

Ryan Rayle (23:06.103)
Okay. And then it looks like two mob two mobiles. There's one. One, two. Wow, dude. I love this. I love this.

Andy Flores (23:14.997)
And that's then that's the good thing, is that all in there in the front, I don't know if you can see. let's say like right in the front there at the bottom, right there. That's our camera guy was literally walking by with with his DSLR on the actual camera stick. And and and that's that's what I'm trying to get to bands and get to everything. Yes, it does cost money to put on a show, guys, regardless what you what you think.

Ryan Rayle (23:21.806)
Yeah.

Yeah. That w Yeah.

Ryan Rayle (23:32.791)
Yeah. No, dude, this looks and sounds great.

Andy Flores (23:44.398)
no one in this world is going to just pay you five hundred dollars, six hundred dollars to just play when you have nothing nothing to show for it. That that's that's what the difference is here is that I make I put bands to work. I make sure they let me go ahead and pause this. There you

Ryan Rayle (23:56.611)
Yeah. Yeah.

Ryan Rayle (24:01.625)
So

Yeah. You can go ahead and shut that close that out. Unless you got another one to show. I was Okay.

Andy Flores (24:08.461)
I got plenty, but whoa, what happened? I switched. The camera switched. I'm on this side now.

Ryan Rayle (24:12.249)
Yeah, yeah, yeah. You yeah, this I don't understand that. It's done it twice now. But first and foremost, that looked I would I gr I enjoyed, I've never seen that before. That was great. I I but I know what it takes to do something like that. and it and you know it's not hard. You just have to have other people that are willing to, you know, go out there and be the cameraman for a set or

Andy Flores (24:24.673)
Okay.

Andy Flores (24:38.549)
Yeah, and that that that was the main thing with a lot of the I use Burn Studios. they're they're friends, they're friends of mine, they actually had bands, they played on my shows too. And that was really the exchange. I'm like, you you're getting to play at the rock box, you're getting to play on a big stage that nationals regularly play on, and trying to get everything situated. But when COVID hit, everything just it wasn't e i it we just got the box

The box kicked out under us, literally.

Ryan Rayle (25:09.625)
Yeah. I yeah, that's a that's Yep.

Andy Flores (25:13.473)
So there was it there was rock but there was just no box. So it was just yeah, just kind of just just kind of floating there. but yeah, everything that happened from then till now is you know family. I had I had more I had more kids. my daughter got to experience my my exposed stuff when she was very young. my at that time he was fourteen. Yeah, my fourteen year old.

Ryan Rayle (25:16.943)
All rock, no box.

Andy Flores (25:42.134)
He got to experience it. and it it a lot of people got to go to these shows because the rock box is all ages. It's not just a bar, it's a venue. So it's allowed, it it's allowed for that. There's some places, I don't know how come and take it is, but I know that like a lot of places, they're bars. So these kids can't get into shows, they can't see their parents.

Ryan Rayle (25:51.737)
Mm-hmm.

Ryan Rayle (26:05.127)
yeah. Mm-hmm. come and take it is all ages. D depending on the show is i is all ages. Because I mean, everyone's that has been to come and take it and seen me with my kid. I've been taking her since she was I wanna say nine. She's just turned thirteen. So I mean, one of her first shows was one of the Austin staple hardcore bands, Rain. I mean, it was I mean, she knows Skyler She'd always be like

Andy Flores (26:20.365)
Mm.

Andy Flores (26:26.594)
Nice.

Ryan Rayle (26:31.609)
Where is Skylar is Skylar gonna be there? And then, you know, now we go there and she's I don't know. She's like a little she's like a little celebrity. And I love it for her because, you know, I'm not saying that I didn't get it okay, I didn't experience anything like what my kid is experiencing when I grew up. I had I had Z Z Top with my aunt in the Z twenty eight with the top down or whatever. W I had Led Zeppelin.

Andy Flores (26:49.088)
no No

Andy Flores (26:57.687)
Hell yeah.

Ryan Rayle (27:00.045)
Led Zeppelin with my dad and and Black Sabbath and but it was more, you know, I'm from the middle of North Carolina, so I grew up a country boy. So just think of like, I don't know, an hour outside of any of the major metropolitan areas, but more you know what? Like, yeah, think east to east northeast Texas, like Longview, Tyler, like that kind of where there's tall pines and you know, woods.

Andy Flores (27:06.795)
Mm-hmm.

Andy Flores (27:14.509)
So you had you had country life.

Andy Flores (27:27.436)
Mm-hmm.

Ryan Rayle (27:28.195)
But that's that's the life that I that's kind of where I that's where I grew up. But I didn't go to shows when I was young. I didn't really I didn't even get into metal until I was in my twenties. And so being able to afford her the opportunity to not only experience music for herself, I know it's kind of forced upon her, but I mean, she come she's just when I'm listening to it it

Andy Flores (27:51.734)
It's not really forced. It's more of a something something we didn't have. Like like like and we we had like you said, we had sorry about that. we had like I said, listen to listening to the radio, listening to, you know, Deep Purple, Zeppelin, Santana, all of those all of that stuff in that range. We had all that. But I used to go to shows with my uncle and w a

Ryan Rayle (27:57.4)
Yeah, yeah. So whenever

Ryan Rayle (28:08.975)
Mm-hmm.

Ryan Rayle (28:17.443)
Yeah, okay. So I never I never had that. So this is

Andy Flores (28:20.257)
That w that was that was the rare thing. And you know, having my mom letting me go with my uncle, which he already looks like a hippie as it is, then coming home literally smelling you like, you know, the the the gange. Nothing. Nothing. I eyes all I don't like. I don't know. I'm just tired. I'm just tired.

Ryan Rayle (28:29.388)
Ha ha.

Ryan Rayle (28:35.565)
The devil's lettuce. What you doing with Uncle Larry? Nothing, mom. You're just like you're like, god I'm crying, not you. Yeah. That's great.

Andy Flores (28:49.377)
So but yeah, no getting getting getting to that is like my daughter was I guess five yeah, around five. And when w when my band opened up for cold over here at at in Vibes and downtown at

Ryan Rayle (29:06.635)
E e evil assassins? Okay. E V O L. Evil. Evil. Yeah, okay. Got it. Yeah. So just love backwards.

Andy Flores (29:09.195)
Yes. Yeah, we E V O L. Love backwards. That's the easiest way to say it because everyone's like, Evil. So but but yeah, my I my daughter got to see me and you know, I didn't expect Scooter to come out and give her a hug and sign stuff for her, and it was real cool for her. She is and I show her the pictures and she's like, I met him and now she's listening to that CD.

Ryan Rayle (29:35.031)
Yep. Nice. Nice.

Andy Flores (29:37.876)
And I'm like, you have to understand you literally have gone you you've surpassed me in what I've done at that age. I mean, 'cause all we did was literally I was video games, shows every now and then, and at home, that's it. Left to my devices and my my guitar, my singing and all my other stuff.

Ryan Rayle (30:00.942)
Yeah, I I was not I did nothing with music. I played a recorder in sixth grade. I think everybody I think that was a standard for everybody back, you know. The old I swear if somebody rips a recorder sample and puts it in metal, I will I'll I'll buy a t shirt. I'll I'll help support. Yeah. They'd be like, was that a fucking recorder? Bro.

Andy Flores (30:06.786)
Nice.

My son's got that right now and I ough.

Andy Flores (30:19.605)
Everybody's gonna lose it.

Dude, imagine a imagine a breakdown with a recorder.

Ryan Rayle (30:26.419)
man. I mean, with today's music, why not? Right? They're floating everything in there. Saxophones, trumpets. Dude, I just, I just my God. Man. We'll tread lightly with that topic. but like I interviewed a band called PHZero, and they have a Urhu. It's a three-string Asian and flu Asian I think it's Chinese instrument, but

Andy Flores (30:32.075)
Hey well y we got you know what? I'll I'll I'll we got Suno now.

Ryan Rayle (30:56.281)
Their dude, their music is great. And I I we just linked up on Instagram and then had an interview and they came here during South by. Unfortunately, I didn't get to see them play, just it didn't what wasn't in the cards. But they said they had a great experience. It was their first time here ever. And they reached out to me because they wanted to, you know, use the the use the platform. I was like, absolutely, absolutely. If it can get if it can get more people, more asses and seats or more feet in on the floor, I'm I'm there for it. And that's why

Andy Flores (31:01.782)
Nice.

Ryan Rayle (31:24.899)
you know, we keep doing this. And I think that kind of ties back in that I guess the o the overarching theme here is that, you know, instead of just I don't want to say gatekeeping, you know, I don't I don't think there are gatekeepers, but I don't think there's that I don't think there's too many in this world. I could be wrong.

Andy Flores (31:40.628)
there's a lot of them. And that's that so th this came around like the gatekeeping thing. I had one buddy who works, he's my security over at at the rock box. and he said something that kind of stuck, and I've been using that with everybody. I'm here to disrupt. I'm here to disrupt the gatekeepers because nice.

Ryan Rayle (32:02.52)
Mm.

I was called a change agent the other day. I I I now understand why. Dude, it's abandoned tech okay, hold on. You keep talking. I'ma see if I can find this real quick because it was a shock to me. A shock.

Andy Flores (32:09.845)
Hey, that's a great that's a great thing for a shirt.

Andy Flores (32:18.941)
Dude, like the the there's so much great music out here right now. It's just there's n there's these people. I I I don't understand. There's it it's a different realm. I understand that me and you and everyone in our age group, if we wanna learn something, we go figure it out. We were around before Google. We were around before all this. So I mean

Ryan Rayle (32:44.431)
tell how your camera's working right now. What it was

Andy Flores (32:48.097)
You we had

hell yeah. So hold on, look look I'll show y'all guys here. Check this shit out. So everybody can see this shit, right? Okay, this is this is my my gimbal from TikTok. For some reason, this didn't want to work. It didn't want to turn. So as the mechanics, we are, we figure shit out. I have my camera inside a phone inside a napkin holder right now. You know what? I can move. It's not it's not bouncing.

Ryan Rayle (33:18.607)
I love it. I love it.

Andy Flores (33:20.681)
It's it's stable. I mean it's not the best cam it's not the best angle 'cause it's it's making me giving me like a double chin. That's why this is blocking it. So I mean if I move this you can actually see my age. I mean no

Ryan Rayle (33:28.739)
Yeah.

Ryan Rayle (33:33.507)
Yeah. A little salt and pe I just I just cleaned my face up today 'cause I didn't want to look like a look like I just climbed out of a cave.

Andy Flores (33:40.157)
Ryan Rayle (33:41.923)
But so here's

Ryan Rayle (33:51.312)
They're called Change Agent. I was like, okay. And I went down to the about, born from the fertile music soil of Fort Worth, Texas. Change Agent is a band that thrives in the tension between chaos and clarity. And there's, you know, more description. I was like, okay, okay, let me give this a little, let me give this a little listen. And then so this one's called The Plume. Tell me if you hear this. I gotta turn. I gotta turn it up.

Andy Flores (34:20.439)
Would you like me to put it on my share screen? there it is. Hell yeah.

Ryan Rayle (34:37.773)
Hey Chey, change it. I hope you let me play your music.

Andy Flores (34:40.621)
Cease and desist.

Ryan Rayle (34:44.463)
Yeah. But

Andy Flores (34:45.815)
Bro, and that's that's the main thing that that we're work that we're working with with everybody. It's the fact that there's certain things that you're gonna go through, especially with playing covers, with playing original music, and now, you know, I know AI is a very hot topic. And you have all these people making making money off of writing a fucking co writing writing a a style to put it into. And you know

Ryan Rayle (35:13.763)
God. Yeah, that's crazy.

Andy Flores (35:15.693)
At the same time, I want everybody to kind of understand there's good and bad to everything. there's it's it depends on how you use it. AI is good in some aspects and AI is bad in some aspects. If you have the mom and pop trying to do their stuff and trying to make their make their their events profitable, but they don't have the money to build a a flyer, guess what? Put it in AI, they'll put the stuff together for you.

Now, if you're trying to sell a festival, which you should be putting money into, and you have AI created because you're a cheap ass, then there's your bad part of it. I get that. Some people have to learn it, some people have to do this, but there's you have to have a kind of a set rate of what you want to do and what you want to use. Now, me personally, I have Suno. And the reason I have Suno is because I have music that I spent

Ryan Rayle (35:45.807)
Mm-hmm.

Ryan Rayle (35:56.783)
Yeah.

Andy Flores (36:15.159)
10 grand on and it sounds like dog. It it it and and I have we we sent it out. This was back in 2010. No, 2008. This is back in 2008. So we had we had sent it out to nuclear blast to go ahead and do the the final mixing and mastering. And I was like, okay, cool, we're gonna get a good product back.

Ryan Rayle (36:20.614)
man, that I'm sorry.

Andy Flores (36:43.689)
It's it's sounds flat. Everything sounds dead. But I put it in Suno to see what it would do. Hey, it revamped it. It edited it EQ'd everything perfectly. Now no one can see no one can hear that music. No one can see that music. No one can do all that. But I needed to see what it was capable of. And it's very capable of a lot of things. But the the amount of AI bands that are out there, you're never gonna get to see them live.

Ryan Rayle (36:46.83)
No.

Andy Flores (37:12.459)
You're you're you're you're never gonna get to see them live. You're never gonna get to hear your favorite song if you got a favorite song, unless someone's gonna take that music. And e exactly. And and I mean, Ozzy's doing it right now, but still, you know, have holograms on stage or do whatever you know it's not the same. Just like I don't know if you've I don't know if you've seen that kiss thing too. They're doing their they're still going on tour and with their

Ryan Rayle (37:20.963)
And do like a DJ set.

Andy Flores (37:41.911)
Holograms.

Ryan Rayle (37:43.305)
I no, it was not a I didn't know that. Hmm.

Andy Flores (37:44.805)
Yeah. At least that's what I've that's what I've seen. I'll send it to you later so you can check it out. But yeah, that's sometimes you gotta know when to hang it up.

Ryan Rayle (37:48.686)
Okay.

Ryan Rayle (37:54.404)
Yeah, it's it's I I'm all for reunion tours and you know, now, you know, currently like you know, like I just mentioned, you know, Woe Is Me, Jamie's Elsewhere, like all of these bands, you know, fifteen, twenty, twenty-five years ago that were cutting their teeth like the people that we're supporting now, now they are on their fifteen, twenty, twenty-five year anniversaries of albums or

Andy Flores (38:14.423)
Mm-hmm.

Ryan Rayle (38:22.455)
you know, their first or second album. Like, you know, usually usually first you the first or second albums are what snatch people they're like, nope, I'm in. Like for me, it's the plot in you or like Moss the Flames. Those, you know, early, early, you know, especially the plot in you, they've changed over time, which is which is good, you know. like Bring Me the Horizon just threw out a new one and it's going back to their old death core and everybody's like, fucking finally. Right? They're like, you know

Andy Flores (38:32.375)
Okay.

Andy Flores (38:43.085)
You're supposed to.

Andy Flores (38:51.407)
They played the game for a little bit. That's what happened. So did Tool.

Ryan Rayle (38:53.827)
Hey man, they got to where they need to be, I guess. And yeah, I mean, use the tools that you have to your advantage. And people like myself and Andy, we we are tools. We use tools and we're also tools. So so, you know, use us. You know, don't abuse us though. Okay. If we if yeah, if we s if we send it, yeah, if we send an email saying, hey man,

Andy Flores (39:09.399)
Mm-hmm.

Andy Flores (39:14.917)
'cause we we'll abuse back a and you won't like it.

Ryan Rayle (39:21.911)
I need this thing, or you wanna get on a show or you wanna you it's it's it's and I'll just say this. I won't name the band, but it just I just have it's full transparency. When I tell you that I would like to play your music on the radio, it's it's for a reason. It's not just because I ran out of songs. I can go find songs anywhere. We actually built a website. I didn't build it. It was my idea, but Greg, my friend of mine, Greg built it. It's called the Texas Metal Index. You can go it's you I th I I'll pull it up here in a minute, but

you can submit your band, you can submit your venue, you can submit a show. It is a one-stop shop for just Texas music. So if I want to go, you know, find music, I can just go to that. But when you send me a you see it? Here, yeah, share it real quick. I got lazy mouse button over here.

Andy Flores (40:08.437)
This is nice site, bro. I don't know. Here, I can't I'll I'll I'll sh I'll share it for you. you're good. I

Ryan Rayle (40:18.295)
Now it's still in its, yeah, look at this. It's still in its beta phases. We're not really gonna like do a hard push for it. There's some like right there. was that swan? right there. A bullet for pretty boy. Go there. So it's like their own, it's like Bandcamp, Craigslist, MySpace. There's an embedded player. If they have shows, like it's and then there's their discography. Now all of this is scraped from the internet from just what's publicly available.

But bands can literally submit their own band. Like up the go to top right, submit a band. All the way up. There it is. Look at that. You could do that right now in real time. You could and there's all the genres. If you keep going down, if you had a website, where you're from, you're this is your biography. It's an EPK for free. It is free. Ninety nine.

Andy Flores (41:12.981)
And and guys that this is stuff like this is what what Ryan's been doing for since I've known him. Stuff like this is what I've been doing since he's known me. And even before that, we've always tried to help people out. And that's the thing. It's free. Y'all need to learn how to do what's is free for y'all.

Ryan Rayle (41:19.255)
Yeah.

Ryan Rayle (41:30.627)
Now, I will say this. Now, this is where this is where the AI debate comes in. So scroll down and look for where it says blog. Right. Yeah. Click that. That might. no, I'm sorry. That's the code. Go to the far left. There you go. Look at this blog. Click on that first one. Death Metal dominates Texas with 619 bands. An algorithm wrote this. I will be honest. And if you want to hate me for it, that's fine. But look at what it's doing.

Andy Flores (41:43.198)
Ryan Rayle (41:59.384)
Look at the n look at the data that this thing is compiling that you can use for your benefit. It tells you didn't have to do you had to you had to go t you know texasmetal index.com blog. Now I have not personally verified everything on the blog, right? But let's just say what's that link that's already sitting there? Zero. Yeah, that one. Where's that jump us to? There you go, calendar.

Andy Flores (42:06.285)
That you didn't have to do all this and waste hours.

Andy Flores (42:23.457)
This one.

Ryan Rayle (42:27.843)
You can go to shows. Hey, what's happening on this date? So now we're work trying to work with venues. So may this is where I'd like to get the rock box involved. And I'll get Greg, we'll get a whole team together to where whenever you guys update your calendar, boom, updates this one. It's an it's an instant update. So

Andy Flores (42:42.381)
Perfect. I'll I'll get that all situated today for for us.

Ryan Rayle (42:47.329)
Also, if you go back to submit a band, now check out the top row, submit a venue, submit a show. You have all kinds of stuff that you can do there. Yep. Just one massive database, one big search engine. It is. This has been in my head for about eight years, eleven, nine years. And now it's here. So anywho, this is.

Andy Flores (42:50.357)
T-top.

Andy Flores (42:57.931)
Hmm. Speaking of s

Andy Flores (43:13.621)
Well your buddy your buddy did fantastic on website. It's very easy to s to

Ryan Rayle (43:16.641)
I dude, he he crossed it and I told him, I was like, man, it's got this like Craigslist MySpace Vibe. He's like, that's what I was going for. I was like, dope. Yeah. I know it looks, yeah, it it looks like when you type in the website and it's like, are you sure you want to go here? It doesn't look secure. And you're like, fuck yes.

Andy Flores (43:21.175)
Fuck yeah, dude. It's gritty. It looks a little suspect.

Certificate is not valid.

Ryan Rayle (43:36.635)
Yeah, it's just H T T P. There is no S. It's just but yeah, like that seven thirty three, I that's a new band to me. I d I bought and downloaded that whole album. That's Thrash from I think Dallas, if I'm not mistaken. Yep. And you can play it right there. You can get a little pe sneak peek. I don't know how good it's gonna sound.

Andy Flores (43:55.746)
shit, that would

Ryan Rayle (44:00.42)
Woo that is compressed as hell. I don't want to I don't want to ruin it for anybody. Yeah.

Andy Flores (44:02.263)
That that is loud. And I'm I was trying to figure out exactly how to turn that down. But again, I'm new to this. So

Ryan Rayle (44:08.013)
It's all good. But yeah, man. That's but Greg went a step further and he has California Metal Index, Florida Metal Index, New York Metal Index. He's got the World Metal Index, Europe Metal Index. I mean, he was like, I like this, I'm gonna make it bigger. And I just and he just ran with it. So it's good stuff, man. It's good stuff.

Andy Flores (44:23.233)
There you go.

Andy Flores (44:29.021)
This is what the bands need. This is what we didn't have. We had My Space.

Ryan Rayle (44:32.195)
So holy shit, you know what you can do as soon as we're done? Pull up your flyer. You can submit that show. And then I'll see it, approve it, and then it'll be added. Yes. Yeah, because God, we're running out of time. it's eleven thirty.

Andy Flores (44:40.511)
so let's well you want me to do that right I can do that right now.

we'll I'll do I'll do that here in a little bit. So we're not wasting time on that. But I'll share where is it? Share screen window there it is. Boom and share. Cool. Yeah that showed.

Ryan Rayle (44:58.863)
There it is. So this is going down July nineteenth, twenty twenty six. It's a Sunday. what is that, ten dollars at the door day of?

Andy Flores (45:09.687)
So it's ten dollars at the door. you can get your tickets for five dollars plus the service fees, of course, everything with that. because that's on Stubwire. all the links will be in my my bio, my TikTok, my Instagram, all that stuff. It'll be up there to where you just scan it. But all you have to do is scan that that QR code at the bottom. Once you scan that QR code, it's gonna take you to all my stuff. Just go ahead and look through. These are all bands in San Antonio. we were doing a loud and local festival for the rock box. The rock box put it on.

Ryan Rayle (45:29.401)
Nice.

Ryan Rayle (45:37.401)
My god.

Andy Flores (45:39.99)
this is all most bands are from San Antonio. There may be like w one or two that's not, but these are people who wanted to jump on and they're actually getting paid. It's not just a straight thing. And the way we're the way we're doing this is since we're selling for five bucks, they're getting a dollar off the ticket. You're getting twenty percent of the ticket. Rather than, you know, just pennies, pennies from the ticket. So it it

Ryan Rayle (46:02.147)
Nice. A a dollar or two, yeah. Yeah. This looks good. I like the I like the flyer, man. I love I love the blues and the teals and the like I love flyers that pop.

Andy Flores (46:10.263)
Thank you.

Andy Flores (46:15.435)
Yeah, and see it AI didn't create this, I did. It's it's it's there don't get me wrong, I use I've used AI before for flyers and I get it. But but exactly it's a foundation to build on. Not not this is my product, here you go. And that that's that's the main thing. So let's see.

Ryan Rayle (46:18.445)
That's that's gorgeous, man. I like it.

Ryan Rayle (46:26.849)
Of course. You get an idea. It's foundational. Yeah.

Ryan Rayle (46:35.107)
Yeah.

All right, tell you what I want I would like to request is reach out to the bands on all of the bands. And what we can do, that's July 19th. That's a Sunday. So we will do the Texas Takeover strictly local and loud fest. And that way it'll be Yeah. And this is and this is how I was trying. I was so worried about doing the radio show. Like, how am I going to get all this music? And now I was like, ooh, if I had a database, and that's where.

Andy Flores (46:56.491)
nice. Thank you, sir. I appreciate that.

Ryan Rayle (47:07.267)
I was like, okay, time to put this plan in action. But I've been finding myself just going on Bandcamp or or App or iTunes and just I want this song, cool. I'm gonna get the whole album. And you know, I have a little bit of discretionary funding these days because, you know, I'm I've been around long enough to pay off a few debt credit cards. so so this is my I don't just get tracks sent to me. Like I I buy shit. I I to this day I still buy stuff.

Andy Flores (47:27.745)
There you go, see?

Ryan Rayle (47:37.001)
so that way I can have it. That in the in the event that, you know, Skynet takes over and, you know, tosses all this away. Yeah. You can just go and grab. You can just go grab a C D and pop it in, you know, tell your daughter pop it in the anti skip C D player and have a ball.

Andy Flores (47:44.297)
They yeah, and Spotify's down and

Andy Flores (47:56.162)
There you go. And they're they're they're coming back. Did you see the mini vinyls at Target?

Ryan Rayle (47:59.76)
Mm. Mm. I'm just it's nostalgia one one these days. So

Andy Flores (48:02.591)
I I d I'm like, you know what? I I don't mind the nineties coming back. I don't mind any of that coming back. The two thousands, I don't mind any of that. We had the best we had the best clothes. We had the w best music, best live being being at a show.

Ryan Rayle (48:15.395)
Best clothes, best music.

Ryan Rayle (48:19.757)
That's I'll say we had the best social life. I don't give a shit what you think. You think your social life is cool now? Nah, dog. Throw the phone away. Like I tell my daughter, she's not getting a phone until she's 16. Well, yeah, dude. I was like, if we wanted to get on the internet and talk to our friends and the other cr you know, we we had to we had to physically go to a computer and log in with a fifty-six K modem that's

Andy Flores (48:24.855)
Fuck no.

Andy Flores (48:29.899)
The click, the the little click cameras.

Andy Flores (48:36.574)
it took it took some it took some effort.

Andy Flores (48:44.479)
And you had to make sure you had hours.

Ryan Rayle (48:46.455)
Yes. Also tell your mom to get off the phone. Don't mess up the signal. dude, it would but but man, we spent so much time with people. And and and I saw this quote the other day that said from from a soccer fan. I don't know how true it was. If it it I don't give a shit, but it made sense. If you want to hate America, watch the news. If you want to love America, drive through it. And people that we support day in and day out, not just the musicians, but the sound engineers, front of house, venues, promoters, bookers.

Andy Flores (48:50.217)
Mm-hmm.

Ryan Rayle (49:15.927)
merch people. I I mean every there is there is music is the lifeblood one of one of the staple things in this c in I mean in the world because it it but it's it's it's it's really hard to break through these days, even though it's as easy as possible. You can you can you can hit a TikTok lick and and get signed in a in a few I don't know

Andy Flores (49:27.605)
Yeah.

Ryan Rayle (49:42.97)
But I've seen it I've seen where people could blow up on TikTok and all of a sudden it's like, now they're on tour with so and so. It's like, how the fuck? They've been doing this shit for like six months. And I got friends over here who've been grinding for ten years and can't sell fifty tickets. But this clown over here can can generate some shit on a laptop and all of a sudden it's like click button and get paid. I don't know. I'm I'm sorry. Sorry.

Andy Flores (50:00.951)
Yeah, no, no, and no, no, by all means, please, because that's the problem. Is that and and these these people I I want these kids to realize there's more than just putting it online. That there's been bands that I have come into that I have been sitting in the back doing my emails, doing all my stuff, and I literally stop, close the laptop, and I walk over there because I'm like, who's playing right now? And I get I get video, I start listening, I'm like, man, these guys are good.

One of and you know, I'll I'll plug him right now, Nate Vickers.

Ryan Rayle (50:35.776)
yeah, dude. I I was impressed. Saw him with Villa Mora.

Andy Flores (50:36.801)
That dude is solid. I mean, yeah, that that's the tour that came through through to us. And I'm right now I'm trying to st I'm trying to book him for my expos because why not? That he did fantastic, bro. He packed that place and I didn't even know it. I didn't even know who he was.

Ryan Rayle (50:42.446)
Yeah.

Ryan Rayle (50:52.217)
Exactly. Who dude, half the time some of these shows that come through, I'm like, who the f and then I go or I listen to the listen to the music. I'm like, Daddy Likey.

Andy Flores (51:01.517)
You're like, that's why You're like, that's why they that's why they got a crowd. Yeah, and it's good music. And that's that's that's what I'm that's what we're trying to do. That's what book that's what you're trying to do. That's what I'm trying to do. And that's why I want to make this corridor thing actually happen. And you know, I'll I'll s I'll get with the other people, see if we can get that scheduled so we can all just make a a whole interview thing and let's let's all talk about it and we'll all hash a thing out and then we'll create a create a fucking tour, dude.

Ryan Rayle (51:06.173)
Yeah. Yeah.

Ryan Rayle (51:23.437)
We'll do it, man.

Ryan Rayle (51:30.401)
I'm dude, I I mean, the fight for 35, I still think is I mean, that would be Dallas, DFW, Austin, Sammo, San Antonio, God, just south of San Antonio. Why is it I just lost my brain. There you go. so I mean, whatever, you know, the fight for 35 or, you know, something to do locally, right? And I've talked to

Andy Flores (51:30.583)
For for these bands and just keep it rolling.

Andy Flores (51:47.063)
Corpus.

Andy Flores (51:57.26)
Yeah.

Ryan Rayle (51:59.556)
I just need to get my ask is for people like yourself in the other markets to, you know, we're gonna stay in touch more now. because we're this is this is it's the grassroots, right? So

Andy Flores (52:11.019)
Yeah, this is this is building more than I thought it was. And and it exactly. community building one one.

Ryan Rayle (52:13.837)
Yeah. This is community building, guys. Yeah. You just you gotta have but it always starts with people that care that don't and I'll and I I've told it like I don't make any money. The bands that I talk to barely make money. Everybody's in the red, but we do it for the love, right? We do it for the we do it for the when I go to a show, I wanna see people that I know. I want it to be my cheers. I want it to I want it to feel normal, not just stand against the wall and be like, this place is dumb. But it's, you know.

I don't know. There there's

But but yeah man, we'll we'll we'll we'll we're we'll reconvene. I got this other interview. I got three interviews today. You're the first one.

Andy Flores (52:55.339)
No, no. Yeah, go do what you need to, brother. Like I said, I appreciate you. I appreciate everything you're doing. I appreciate you for having me on, man. That's this is fan this is fantastic. And you know, I'll get all the links and everything you you've been saying. I've been writing notes and keeping up up here on my the top tab. So we'll get everything going, man. Like I said, let's try and get a get another one together with all with all of all of us meeting up. And you know, now we have technology. We don't have to physically drive.

Ryan Rayle (53:01.421)
No man, it's

Ryan Rayle (53:17.458)
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.

Ryan Rayle (53:22.539)
Yeah.

Andy Flores (53:22.625)
To a Denny's or a a Jim's or an IHOP. IHOP Applebee's now, I guess.

Ryan Rayle (53:28.183)
Yes. Pancakes and dollar, what is it? Dollar Medella. I forget what it is. It's like it's it's it's gonna get a lot of people in trouble. But but but no, I mean I I I greatly appreciate you and and for anybody out there that's trying to do, you know, what what what we do, like we're here. But if you're in a band and you want to get on a show, contact us. If you want to get your stuff on the radio, contact us. If you want to

Andy Flores (53:33.805)
Andy Flores (53:38.369)
Well but

Ryan Rayle (53:55.632)
Hey, man, I thought about doing this, this, and this, or like use us as a resource, use this as a tool. And plus, we also have, you know, the Texas Metal Index that's just, like I said, in beta form. Go on there, mess around with it. Submit your show, submit a venue, submit your band, submit your mom's band. That's the other thing is if there's a project that was, I don't know, a flash in the pan, made three-song demo, and then that's it, I still want that because that's a part of the fabric of the Texas metal scene.

Andy Flores (54:20.971)
That's what c that's what creates the index.

Ryan Rayle (54:23.373)
Right. It's and that's it. It's just if for those, I almost wanted to call it like the Dewey Decimal System sign kind of thing, but I felt that would be too much. Just like where's this book? Brrrr There it is. But anywho, yeah. I one thousand percent I will. I got a I got a zombie expert here in the house.

Andy Flores (54:30.285)
Mmm, that one that one that one hurt. That one hurt. You know what? We'll survive during we'll survive during apocalypse, I'll tell you that much.

Andy Flores (54:46.125)
There you go. See?

Ryan Rayle (54:47.107)
For okay, so we're round up. So give your where people can get a hold of you, your socials and any ats, and then anybody that you want any special shout out or thanks, and then we'll get out of here.

Andy Flores (54:59.819)
All right, well, thank you for everybody. Thank you. Thank you. Literally everybody. y'all tune in. Y'all support my my boy over here. y y'all y'all always have. And I we're looking forward to hearing from y'all. If you need to contact me, you can contact me on Instagram, Facebook, all that good stuff. It's the Hive SATX. you can message the Hive SATX a Gmail.

Ryan Rayle (55:06.585)
Yeah.

Andy Flores (55:21.973)
All my stuff is on there. Any any link tree that you see, just type in the hive S A T X and every all of my contact information is on there. I have no problem talking to everybody. just submit your music. If you want to do a show, by all means contact me. I I I don't know you exist unless you make yourself known. And

Ryan Rayle (55:41.028)
That's it, man. And then when you send the email and then he replies, that's what I forgot about this little thing. I was like, I won't name the band. But when you send an email and we send one back within the same day, I would say make that reciprocal because if I'm asking for a track and it's been three days and I got no response, I'm I'm archiving that email because I don't I don't need it in my inbox because it's like, okay, maybe, okay. Now again, maybe something happened, right? Maybe

Maybe it went to spam or maybe there was something wrong with the track and you're like, we don't want to play this one. Or who knows, the band broke up. Just let me know. Just send an email. Just communication. Communication.

Andy Flores (56:19.393)
Yeah, just just give a common courtesy. That's all it is. Just like I was telling you earlier. Just like I was telling you earlier with that band that I I I talked to and like I said, I'm not naming names. Guys learn how to use an email. It's not a text message.

Ryan Rayle (56:31.171)
Yeah. That my God. I think and that I even had a moment where I was like, Well, let me operate in the world that they do and I just go straight DM whether it's Facebook Messenger or Instagram. yeah, and and it's I mean, go where they are, right?

Andy Flores (56:47.157)
I have I have learned that people won't message you back on Messenger, but on Instagram, it just

Ryan Rayle (56:51.683)
Yes, absolutely. Yeah, it's kinda like, well, I don't know about that. Cause fa I feel like maybe Facebook's more personal. Instagram is more business and fun. And then email is like, okay, we gotta send an email. But

Andy Flores (57:05.109)
Yeah, it's like I gotta write this out, I gotta do this, I gotta and guys, I like I said, you're more than welcome to email me and I have no problem, but I want y'all to understand if I don't get back to you right away, it's because I have about every day I get about twenty to fifty emails. And and these these are bands that are like, Hey, can we play your stage? And I'm like, Well, I what are you gonna play? A a ukulele, a kazoo? I mean and and it's it's

Ryan Rayle (57:11.524)
Yeah.

Ryan Rayle (57:25.391)
Mm-hmm.

Ryan Rayle (57:29.965)
Yeah.

Andy Flores (57:33.57)
That's what we're trying to do. We're trying to help y'all. We're trying to help y'all instead of just because all that's gonna happen if you send stuff like that to venues, they're gonna get it and they're gonna just throw it away. Because the yeah, I was gonna say there there's there there's no time for unprofessionalism. It it just hold yourself accountable for certain things. That's all we're that's all we're saying. We can help you, we can help push you in the right direction.

Ryan Rayle (57:43.565)
Yep. There's a whole go ahead.

Ryan Rayle (57:51.715)
Yeah.

Andy Flores (58:02.027)
Because I've gone through it as a musician. Ryan's gone through it as as I guess what would you call yourself besides the podcast?

Ryan Rayle (58:08.867)
Fucking I I'm I don't know, change agent. Dude, I look up the definition. I like it, man. It's it's you know, the whole like just trying to make change for good, right? Like whatever you're trying to change, you gotta, you know, it takes it takes a village, man. And I'd I'm I'm happy I'm happy to be a part of this village and I'm happy that that you are as well. and I think I think that'll

Andy Flores (58:12.535)
There you see I must start using that. I'm gonna start using that now.

Yeah.

Andy Flores (58:23.905)
Yeah.

Andy Flores (58:28.663)
Take some elbow grease, man.

Ryan Rayle (58:37.168)
I think that's what'll resonate is is the you know the purity of it, the the altruisticness. Not expecting anything in the only thing I expect in return is fucking good music. Hear that, ladies and gentlemen? I want my ears to be

Andy Flores (58:46.967)
Yeah. Mm-hmm.

Andy Flores (59:07.925)
I still got the little little dot. It says actual recording is in higher quality. okay.

Ryan Rayle (59:11.814)
You're good. It was mine. Yep. It just ha it just had a little heart attack because I've been going, Yeah. We're right at an hour. This thing try likes to trip out at an hour. So anyway, Andy, thank you very much. I've enjoyed our time.

Andy Flores (59:20.535)
No, I gotcha.

Andy Flores (59:24.321)
Thank you, brother. I appreciate I appreciate you. Like I said, anything you need, I'm here. You have my f you have my phone number. You have my all my insta you have all my all my shit. and we'll get you going, man.

Ryan Rayle (59:33.095)
We got it.

All right, brother. Well, again, my name is Ryan. This is Andy of the Hive Exposed Underground, The Rocks Bo the Rock Box, anything. Just if you're in San Antonio or you want to go to San Antonio, talk to that guy. And if I'm pointing at not him on my screen, I'm sorry. This is where he's at on my screen. It's one of these. And if you want to play in Austin, hit me up as well, AustinTX Metal at gmail.com or slide my DMs on Instagram. I'm very responsive there. but other than that, man, just keep doing what you do, Andy. We're here, we're here for them, and they're here for us.

Andy Flores (59:38.304)
I'm Andy.

Andy Flores (59:49.737)
It's it's one of those.

Andy Flores (01:00:05.591)
Same brother. I'm gonna keep on promo promoting you and get you getting you out there over here.

Ryan Rayle (01:00:05.702)
So let's keep

All right, man. Well, everybody, thank you very much. Andy, stick around, let it do its thing and we'll see you all soon.