Clydesdale Media Podcast

The PFAA try to explain who they are, The WFP are announcing what athletes have signed with them, the CrossFit Games Announces a new Safety Board, then the events for the in-person Semifinals and sends out the ballots for the CrossFit Athlete Council. Emma Tall says she is probably not doing the CrossFit season due to the reaction from CrossFit to the PFAA demands. What does all this mean and are we really looking at one big Cluster?

What is Clydesdale Media Podcast?

We cover the sport of CrossFit from all angles. We talk with athletes, coaches and celebrities that compete and surround in the sport of CrossFit at all levels. We also bring you Breaking News, Human Interest Stories and report on the Methodology of CrossFit. We also use the methodology to make ourselves the fittest we can be.

what is going on everybody

welcome to the sunday

sunday sunday night crossfit talk

We're here to talk all things CrossFit.

But before we get into that,

I want to make sure I wish

everybody a happy holidays this week.

Jamie and I separately spent

today celebrating the

holidays with our families.

I know Carolyn is now in the States,

in California,

so she's doing some

celebrating of her own.

And we wish you and all of

yours a festive season,

and however you celebrate, and we're

so glad you could join us

tonight yeah so before we

get into the crossfit stuff

and there is a lot a lot

big week um my bears could

not even compete on the

same field as your lions

today yeah I mean you had

some it was okay you guys

tried to come back that

jared goff fake stumble

And whatever that was and

everybody on the sidelines

yelling fumble.

Oh my gosh.

The trick plays to like a whole new level.

So the bear post game guys are all like,

yes, we want Ben Johnson.

We want that guy on our team.

We want guys to think like that.

Um, we want him to be our new head coach.

Yeah.

I don't want to lose him.

It's inevitable.

And then Penn State advanced

in the college football playoff.

I'll probably get into a

little more of that in my

lunch with the Clydesdales this week,

the football stuff.

But yeah, they handled SMU pretty easily.

And really,

I was so excited about this

twelfth team playoff for

the first time ever in college football.

And it actually was a big dud.

The first round.

The games were all blowouts.

It really was kind of a...

But yeah,

but we'll get into that this week.

Oh, go ahead.

Did you see the Eagles commanders game?

I saw the end of it.

Yeah.

So my, my whole family is from Pittsburgh.

Kenny Pickett basically quit

on them to be the backup

quarterback in Philadelphia.

And my whole family were

rooting against Kenny

Pickett in that game

because he came in for

Jalen hurts and they were

all very happy that he lost.

So.

last thing I have and then

I'll turn it over to you

guys for stuff uh I told

jamie this last night maybe

yesterday morning I don't

even know what it was uh we

got a surprise that my

daughter and her boyfriend

of two and a half years

broke up on thursday

So all of our holiday plans

this week have changed dramatically.

It was just going to be

Julie and I on Christmas,

and now my daughter is here

all the way through Christmas.

She has to go back to work on Thursday.

But mutual decision,

just didn't see it going

for a long-term thing,

so they both decided to

kind of call it quits

before they hurt each other.

um and now it's just trying

to figure out how to get

her into an apartment or

something soon after the

new year and uh figuring

that out but right now

we're just hugging her and

enjoying her and loving on

her while she's here for

christmas so yeah were they

living together they were

and uh yeah so it we were all in shock

but that stuff happens.

Yeah.

I'm glad they realized it

before things like, you know,

taking any longer,

getting any more serious

and harder decisions down the road.

So, but yeah, soak up the family time.

And like I told her,

like Julie and I broke up and here we are,

thirty two years later.

Yeah.

Still together.

So just because you break up,

maybe absence makes a heart grow fonder.

Who knows?

But at this point, again,

just love and honor and

going to try to enjoy the

Christmas holiday together as a family.

So back back to old school

family Christmas this year.

I love that.

Yeah, it's going to be nice.

So anything else going on with you guys?

No.

I got all my rigging stuff this week,

so hopefully next weekend

we start doing that.

But, yeah,

that shipment came in on Thursday.

And you're doing turf to the windows,

to the walls.

Yep, from the wall to the window.

for me it's just uh getting

on um lex's routine and

going to bed early getting

up early walking the

doodles um spending time

with her family and taking

advantage of my two weeks

off from work how hard is

it being judged by the

doodles again well you know

what like coach was about

to walk in front of my lift

and it like he then he just

stopped like it's like he

knew this morning is it this morning

yesterday to like not walk in front.

And he just sat there, waited.

And Lex was like, no.

And he just sat.

So then I did my lift.

Cause do you get like, Jamie,

like when someone, sorry.

Oh yeah.

That's bad.

Yeah.

I got caught.

Yes.

If somebody walked like, yes, that,

that sort of obviously depending on the,

on the lift.

But like jerk or snatch with somebody.

Yeah.

That stuff catches me off guard.

so like coast is like

walking and then lex is

like saying like stop he

just sat there and was like

staring at the camera like

this is too cute right now

oh but yeah yeah before we

dive into the cross and

stuff the last thing I have

is um if you watch my show

at all on friday the lunch

with the collage sale I

talked about what

crossfitters would make

great wrestlers and I had

one huge oversight because

I think of you guys as my homies

Lex texted me and said,

how did Carolyn not make the list?

That's a different type.

You're like that leaper wrestler.

The high flyer.

Your hurdle hops that I've

seen you do in videos and

then the taekwondo on top of that.

I could see you going off

the top rope and taking some people out.

Oh yeah.

And then bringing someone

right through the tables.

Oh yeah.

Let's do that.

Yeah.

I see it.

And I actually thought about Lex too,

just because every time she's on camera,

she flexes.

So she, she does.

She'd be great at the camera

work and the pumping up the crowd,

you know, just pulling it all out.

We were both saying like a

Sam dancer though,

like on the men's side would be good.

Like we're just with the hair.

like just the the wrestling

uniforms that they wear

like the little like speedo

style like so he would be

so good any color

everything it would be good

yeah it was it was a fun

topic because and it came

from erica folo saying that

she got a tryout with the

wwe um in the hillar video

if you haven't seen that

it's it's a twenty four

hours or forty eight hours

with hillar um she mentions

that either they're

and on spin or one or the

other can't remember which

it's all blurring together

with all the news this week

but so I just I proposed

who would be the best

crossfitters to be

wrestlers picked my top

five in women and men if

you want to check that out

go back and check that out

on friday and maybe when we

have a slower news day we

can revisit that and see

what I missed um but uh but

yeah that was a just a fun

topic to talk about

Corey Leonard said that Sam

Dancer is a cartoon character,

which make him a perfect WWE wrestler.

Absolutely.

Yeah,

she did mention on spin and I had

actually heard that rumor

before and I don't know where I heard it.

But it's floating around.

It was floating around there

for a while before she

mentioned it last week.

It just reminded me of that.

So we're going to dive into

the CrossFit news.

And again, it's a lot.

So we're probably going to

like speed through this as

much as we can.

But I want to get your

impressions about a couple

of things that were released.

And we're going to start off easy.

And then we'll get into kind

of some of the more difficult stuff.

Oh, was Con Porter on the wrestling list?

No, but that's another good one.

That's a great one.

james newberry too like they

would be in my head yeah

they would be the tag team

aussies yes yeah yeah that

yeah we'll make that a

topic later when when

there's less news and get

into it a little bit more

but yeah it's just fun to

think about so one of the

first things that was

released this week is a

little more detail about

the community cup

And how it's going to work.

And it's coming up in June.

And it's going to be based on levels.

And so whatever your level is,

you will then get to

compete against people in

the same level and age group as you.

And so it's kind of like...

And so this is a spoiler for later.

Dave Castro was on Savan last night.

He said the idea behind it

was quarterfinals were

actually pretty popular.

And this was a way to

include everybody in that

next phase to be able to

push on and see what they could do.

But let's give them their

like everybody their own

level that they're at to

see how they can compete

against everybody in the world.

And the comments were that it sounds great,

but can we do it for more than a year?

And he said, yes,

it needs to be something that's done.

We need to be patient.

The fans need to be patient.

The athletes need to be patient.

We need to do it for four to

five years to see how it works.

Yeah,

that's us trusting that things won't

change,

that something won't come up and

they won't change the format.

Sorry, my internet's off and on.

I like the idea of it.

You're in your own levels.

Sorry, my internet's lagged over here.

But I like the idea of the

Community Cup and just

having percentage based off the Open.

And then you have just

different workouts that are

more tailored to your level

that you can do in a few

months and just kind of

train towards that after

you do the Open and you get your...

percentage based level um it

just gives gets people to

train for something else

versus just waiting a full

year for the next thing and

I think it's a smart idea

to do it a few months after

because someone will then

train their weaknesses for

a shorter period of time

better than they will

trying to get all the way

to the next next open

So you could actually say, hey,

these are my three weaknesses.

I'm going to work on these

for the next couple months

to see if I can improve my

standing when I get to the community cup.

Yeah,

then none of that stuff shows up again.

Yeah.

But the other thing,

the other theory I had was.

maybe the the levels it's a

way to see how they work

and maybe can you then

implement an open with

levels once they're

established so where like

the elite athletes get a

different workout than like

the level sevens or the

level fives right and that

workout then is more geared

toward qualification for

the crossfit games as

opposed to just a community event

And still same stimulus, you know,

but just a workout geared

for the elite athletes.

And if that was their thinking,

I love that type of thinking.

Because it's a way to define

both the open for the elite

athlete and the community.

Yeah, that's a good idea.

And, you know,

there was excitement around

the levels when they were released,

thinking that something

would come of them and

they were kind of a big letdown.

So yeah, if they could build off of that,

I do think there's definitely,

definitely some potential there.

That's the only thing that is,

it's just hard that like

three workouts or even four workouts,

like determines that, like, you know,

the top percentage and

stuff will separate itself,

but like the rest of it,

like they're so limiting on

the workouts that are announced.

Like,

is it a one particular gymnastics

movement?

That's just making them go

into a certain level with

everything else.

They would be, you know,

significant levels above,

Like, that part's hard to, you know,

having three or four

workouts determine your

level for the following year.

It puts a lot of pressure on

what those workouts are.

My hope would be that, well,

and even in the past,

your level was how you used

all the aspects of the

season up until you were eliminated.

So if you were a quarterfinal athlete,

you got more workouts in.

If you were a semifinal athlete,

you got more workouts in to test.

And in games athlete,

I think you were

automatically a level ten

if you made it to the games.

Lynn has a question here.

So are all the levels

starting from scratch for

everyone or everyone is

starting from the levels

based on last year?

So I think the way it's

working this year is all of

the open will be a fresh start anew.

You will achieve your level

from the three weeks of the

open and that's how you'll

be seated in the community cup.

And then if they use the

community cup to then

define the levels a little bit more,

then I could see like, okay,

now we're moving into like

something that's

standardized over a course of time.

Yeah.

Right.

But you're going to have to

set a base with the same

definition for everybody at the start.

Yeah.

Because I don't think this

was the original plan for the levels.

They're now retrofitting

what they want to do now

into what was created before.

I almost wish that the

levels were based off of

benchmark workouts that the

community has to do.

And let's say you're at the average of

these three or four different workouts,

or maybe it's ten different

workouts that you have to

do determines your level, because I just,

I still find that the three

or four workouts is not a

good representation of most

people's levels, like,

there's so many factors

that can play into that,

but if you had specific benchmark, like,

you have to be able to do, you know,

this many toaster bars, or that's your,

you can't do a bar muscle-up, well,

now you're this level, you're

Like you have certain

checkpoints of gymnastics,

monostructural and weightlifting.

I don't know how it would work,

but like basically like

your game's profile,

when they have those benchmarks stuff,

like if you had to do all

of them and then depending on your scores,

you are level, you know, X, Y,

and Z. I like the idea.

I don't know how that would

get policed because people will be like,

I'm putting in a two-twenty

Fran and I'm going to be up there.

Then you just get a harder workout.

That's the workout that level whatever.

You're penalizing yourself, right?

Yeah, true.

Larry Young just wants some

markers that are lifting, as always.

Isabella Unbroken all day.

Larry,

kudos to you if you can do Isabella

Unbroken.

I've never been able to do that.

But snatch is not my strongest lift, so

Lynn says,

if we do one hundred fifty

burpees this year again,

I'll never I'm never going

to move out of my level.

Well,

spend sounds like you need to do

burpees for the next year, Lynn.

Yeah.

Lynn's tall, though, right?

If I remember correctly, she's.

It could be just a range of motion thing.

And then we have where is it at here?

Wow.

So much is coming in.

I'm having a hard time finding comments.

I think it was Corey who was

doing the humble brag, right?

Yeah, right here.

Yeah.

I'm a level ten in my age group.

So, true.

I actually think if you made it to...

Semi like the semis,

whether it was age group or, um,

in-person semis for individuals,

you are automatically a ten.

So maybe they need to

rethink what gets a tech,

like what gets a ten and

what's a nine and kind of

break that down a little bit more, but.

Yeah.

Um,

yeah so so there's that um

that announcement was made

earlier in the week um I

think the whole yeah we'll

get into that later so then

the other big announcement

was that the safety council

the safety advisory board

was announced uh and so I'm

gonna pull that up real

quick and here we go

So here are the members of

the Safety Advisory Board.

Some of them, I mean, two of them,

everybody knows.

So I'm gonna go through them

and I just wanna get your

thoughts and ideas about this group.

So Robert O, MD, MPH,

I believe he was in the army.

He served in Iraq for

eighteen months and he is a

specialist in how heat acts on the body.

and how to combat that with

different salt nutrients.

So I thought that was a

pretty cool background to

bring in to a safety board

with what goes on in CrossFit.

And I'm doing this by memory,

so it's in my notes,

but I can't see them

because I have this pulled up.

So Rich Froning, everybody knows him,

ten-time CrossFit Games champion,

affiliate owner.

But he also, before all of that,

was a first responder for

four years with the

Cookville Fire Department.

And I do think that the

safety board probably

should have some athletes

or former athletes on it

for their perspective.

I agree.

Preferably former.

I mean, I think,

I think there's not really

a much better pick than rich for this.

Like he's,

he's run comps like the mayhem classic.

He understands literally

like almost every aspect of the sport.

Right.

Yeah.

Any thoughts, Carolyn?

Yeah.

I mean, you can't have a current one,

but I mean,

he has experience at every

level masters individual team to kind of,

um, give good input there.

And if you're talking about safety,

like you have to have

people on your board that

also understands the sport

and they're like the true

risk of like the athlete side,

but still not being, um,

an active athlete I mean

he's an active programmer

so I don't know if that I

mean I've said for forever

that our sport with the

unknown just doesn't work

because it's not unknown um

I feel like he has good

integrity though but um I

think that's a good I'm

fine with rich like he has

a lot of experience more

than essentially most

people in the sport yeah

So the next one is Katie Henniger, um,

who we all know well as the

owner of rogue.

Um,

One, she has a lot of background in sports,

period.

Before all this,

she is a past games champion.

But I think it's smart to

have the equipment company

as part of the safety board.

Because as they're

developing equipment or how

the equipment's going to be used,

I think they can give input

into that specifically.

I agree.

And that's a thinking that I had, too,

was like,

Oh,

maybe they can build something that's

just safer.

And there can be things that

are just communicated

through Rogue that could be

good additions or modifications.

Or this piece of equipment

is not meant to be used this way.

Right.

And it was not built to

withstand whatever.

She would have that knowledge.

Or if she doesn't have that knowledge,

she would know where to get

that knowledge fairly quickly.

Yeah.

We have Brian McGuire.

and I'm gonna use my notes

here uh so this one I

thought was fascinating

because he's been the lead

athletic trainer for the

nfl scouting combine since

but this is the part he is

um an nfl player health and

safety program injury

spotter so if people don't

know that watch the nfl

there's a guy that sits up

in the press box with

binoculars and watches the field

to detect when people should

be pulled off the field and

examined in the medical

tent to avoid further injury.

And he has full reign to

stop the game and have a

player pulled off the field.

If he feels that they are in a,

in a position of danger.

And so I think that alone

makes him a very interesting pick for,

for this.

And probably something that

would be good to have at

all events at the CrossFit

Games and all CrossFit

events is someone spotting

the floor to detect,

is there someone we should

grab off the floor?

And how is that implemented?

What are the protocols for that?

And who are the people that

should be doing that?

The next one is Allison Brager.

Yeah, Brager.

Brager.

And she has a lot of background.

She's actually working with

NASA to become an astronaut.

But one of her...

She has completed advanced

training in austere medicine.

And I had to look that up.

And that is doing medicine

in very difficult locations

where things aren't optimal.

Yeah.

And you may not necessarily

have the equipment or the

resources that you would at

like a hospital or something like that.

And then...

And then under the

leadership of current and

formal special forces personnel,

she learned water search

and rescue and high angle

ropes and rescue holding

certifications and advanced

scuba and advanced

wilderness life support.

I like that.

That's someone that should

be on the safety board.

Yeah.

Great pick.

Yeah.

The next one is Manny Cruz, Manuel Cruz.

And he specializes, again, in ropes rescue,

but also high water and flood rescue.

So that's something that he

specializes in.

And he's also the trauma and

rescue unit of the Border Patrol.

So that as well.

Then Michael Cohen is the next one.

And he is the CEO of the USA

Masters Weightlifting.

And he is,

I think they're just bringing

him in for his Olympic

lifting knowledge and where

and when you should use

that in competition.

He doesn't have anything

really other than that in his background,

but he has coached

Numerous elite athletes at

the highest levels in the

world and Olympic lifting

at all age groups.

I wonder what he would think

of like the way that we do

our lifts like in CrossFit.

Let's say you get two or

three attempts and you've

been waiting around for.

Fifteen,

twenty minutes like that would

never fly in the sport of

weightlifting in terms of safety.

Like I always think about

that and like water palooza.

I've had times where like we

were in the corral for a very, very,

very long time.

And it is a safety thing to, you know,

provide athletes with some

sort of bar close to when

they go on the floor.

even if we got to do a

couple lifts before we begin the event,

like that would make a huge difference.

So I just wonder what his

perspective of our

weightlifting events would be in terms of,

I mean, I don't, I don't,

I never understood why they

wouldn't let the athletes

do like one lift prior to like start.

I get time-wise,

but like we would do

probably better lifts,

better performance.

Yeah.

And then finally, we have Mark Ritchie,

and he seems to just be an

all-around expert in risk management.

He presents on this around the world,

and his background says

that he is an expert in

complex risk management in

international and expedition settings,

frequently teaching, consulting,

leading workshops,

and presenting at

professional conferences on

applying best practices in

risk management.

So he just seems to be like

a foremost expert in the

field to have around when

looking at risk management overall.

So that is your safety board.

Any thoughts on this overall?

I mean,

do we have more like they all

report to Dave?

Do we know they?

I don't think they report

specifically to anybody.

I think they're a group that

is consulted by CrossFit in cases.

So per event, they'll just send their,

I mean,

we assume they use them for the games.

They come out and see the

floor or see all the events

and beforehand and.

Yeah.

None of the processes were announced.

Yeah.

I mean, they had to do something, right?

They had to get, I mean,

they just were going to

have to do something to, I mean,

maybe legally they needed

to have something like this in place,

more oversight.

Yeah.

I don't know how they'll use them.

Like,

let's say for all the semifinals that

are going on at the same time.

if they'll know the events

prior and then advise the

semifinal people that are running it,

or if they're just going to

be for the games itself.

There's a lot of information left,

but I mean,

they seem to be qualified in

different areas.

We have expertise from, you know,

different backgrounds, which is good.

Hopefully they'll be

listened to and good can

happen from this.

I mean, it's,

it's good to have.

I don't like, I'm happy we have that.

If we didn't have anything prior before,

like, I guess we like,

we wouldn't know all of

that information because

nothing was released from, um,

the investigation.

If there was any team prior

and this is the new team,

but I think it's good.

Um, yeah.

Uh,

I'm going to answer Corey's

question and I I'm going to

give my final thought.

And he's like, I would think it goes,

Dave writes a workout.

Then it goes to these cats.

I think it's bigger than that.

I think it's about venue choice.

It's about location.

Um, like, you know,

everybody complained about

Fort worth being too hot, right?

You know,

that would probably be run

through this group as to

what is the effect of the

heat and how do we have to

approach that before we move on?

I think it's bigger than

just looking at a workout and saying,

is this safe?

I agree.

But like at the end of the day,

like we can put all the

safety protocols in place.

There will still be risk of

injury in sport.

And, you know,

we won't be able to foresee everything,

even with a highly qualified group.

It's about but it's it's

just about reducing that

risk if we can take those measures prior,

which I think is important.

my final thought on this is my only,

my only criticism of this

at all is that they really

did a good job putting

together a group with

diverse credentials that matter in this,

in this field.

Right.

And they did nothing to tout it.

It was just an Instagram

post and a Twitter post

with their pictures.

Like you, you did something well and,

you should tout this that

we've put this together.

Now there's still details

that we do not know about.

How are they going to be used?

What are the processes?

What are the protocols?

All of that stuff that I

would love to know about

probably never will.

But at this point, man,

you did a good job picking a group.

Like it actually makes sense.

There's logic behind this and,

and something that CrossFit

should tout is something

that they did well.

And it just wasn't like a

social media post.

Was this one of the ones

that got released on

Twitter before anything else?

Everyone gets released on Twitter.

I've learned this week.

Carolyn always has her

Twitter notifier on and

knows like five minutes before I do.

Straight to Twitter.

Which boggles my mind.

It is crazy.

So, yeah.

So the other bit of news

that came out this week is

the service cup is going to be back.

and really the only big

change is they have

eliminated one of the

categories and that is emt

now of the categories there

are two there's medical

professional and there is

first responder and my

guess is emt would fit in

one of those two so it's

not like they're

eliminating that group of

people I think they're just

rolling them up into one of

the other two categories

Do they still have college students?

I didn't see that.

Because last year they had

college students and there

was a bunch of athletes

that put that they were

college students and they

were full-time CrossFitters.

And I was like, oh,

I didn't know that you were

at university right now.

Yeah.

Yeah,

but I know that they have affiliate owner,

they have coach, they have teacher again,

they have law enforcement, fire.

Military.

Yeah, all of that.

Police, yeah.

Yeah, so all the same ones,

but I do know that EMT got removed,

and that's rolling up.

So two years in a row,

doing the same thing.

Yay.

That's a step in the right direction.

Yeah.

Now, how that's going to be awarded,

because didn't it have a

separate piece other than the Open,

Carolyn, or am I wrong?

No,

it was a separate weekend than the Open.

I think it was separate from

the semifinals and everything.

It was just a service cup.

You had the service Open,

but it wouldn't mean anything.

You had to re-sign up for the service cup.

So I'm assuming it might be the same thing,

or I feel like they should

just use the open because

not everyone re-signed up for the Cup,

so it was a much smaller field.

It would make more sense

just to establish it there.

I think they're going to

make it part of the

Community Cup because it

came out in the same announcement.

So that's my guess, but again,

those details were not given.

Corey's got a decent point here,

and this is where my head

goes with having a choice like Rich.

So if you want to read that.

From working construction for many,

many years and knowing the

effect that safety has had

on making it increasingly

difficult for people to do their jobs,

I hope they can find a balance with this.

I totally agree.

And I worry sometimes with, like, PFAs.

Like, they came at it, like,

so heavy-handed that I worry they –

are going to take sport away in some,

in some sense of the word, like, and I,

and I just hope that

someone like rich can, you know, be like,

you know, you know,

there's inherent risk and

we need to still let

athletes compete and buy.

And, um, so I, I get that point.

In my experience,

I don't think that PF go ahead, Carolyn.

I don't think the PFA or

anyone else asked for

measures that were taken

away from the sport.

It was like, cut the ropes.

It was,

can we know how many events are in

the heat?

I don't think it was

anything that was

preventing from it still

being exciting and a sport

and there's still some risk

in any type of physical activity.

I think it was more just

standardizing certain

things and just having...

like a basic oversee of certain stuff.

I don't disagree with past.

my worry is an over-correction if that

makes sense.

My one reassurance is that I

only read the parts of

these people's background

that I felt were pertinent

to their safety and risk of management,

but almost all of them have

a sport background,

whether it be track and field kayaking,

um,

All different things at different levels.

They all had some sort of

sport background in

addition to their qualifications.

So if they are an athlete

who has participated in sport,

you would think that they

wouldn't overcorrect.

But in my experience,

a pendulum always swings a

little too far one way

before it comes back down

and settles in the middle.

This has always been my thing.

In the grand scheme of things,

the games have been pretty safe.

There are always injuries that happen.

That said,

having a group look at safety

protocols is also important.

And I agree it has overall,

it has been pretty safe,

but there was one big mess

up and now we've got to figure that out.

Yep.

So it doesn't happen again.

So.

The next thing on our

rundown is the AFJ or the

Association of Fitness Judges,

which I know Andrew Sten,

who's in the chat, is a part of.

What I wanted to talk about

quickly is that they are

going to do their first

in-person seminar and get

judges certified to be part

of their group.

And that is happening in

Miami during Wadapalooza,

where you can go for,

it's a six-hour course, maybe?

It's a one-day,

six-hour course where you

can get certified to be one

of the Association of Fitness Judges.

In addition to that,

then you will go on the

floor at Waterpalooza and

they will be grading the

judges and giving

evaluations

post-competition to those judges.

And my assumption is in

using those grades to place

judges at future events.

So my guess is that is the

beginning of something that

will continue on event after event.

And I said this on Thursday

when I was a judge at regionals.

You moved up and down in the

heats based on your

performance over the

weekend when I was a judge at regionals.

But that was all run by Boz

and CrossFit and Chuck Carswell.

And it was a pretty tight ship.

And if you were not one of

the top twenty judges by

the end of the weekend,

you did not see the floor on Sunday.

Fair.

So they did that kind of

back in the regional days.

I think the AFJ is just kind

of bringing that theory

back and making it more an

across all event grading system.

I love the idea of the AFJ.

Has CrossFit recognized them at all?

Or have they only used their seminar staff,

like let's say at the games?

I mean,

I'm assuming the AFJ would be good

for other competitions like

Waterpalooza or Madrid, NorCal,

like anyone that's looking for judges.

I guess they could ask for

AFJ certified or whatever it is.

But has CrossFit recognized

the association at all?

I don't think so.

But I will say that Dave did

bring them up in his

conversation last night.

Um,

and he said something else that we'll

talk about.

So a little teaser.

And I think it has to do

with him actually knowing

who the AFJ is and what their purpose is.

But we'll talk about that

when we get to that section for sure.

Um,

But I think it's a good idea.

I think the evaluation process,

when they did it at regionals,

it was done in a very professional way.

And it was really,

you were told how to get better.

In addition to, hey,

this year you're not going

to see the floor Sunday,

but these are the things

you need to work on.

And then hopefully we'll see

you back next year.

And you'll make that stride

into that next group.

And it was pretty cool

because even at that point

that you were split into

like the top judges and the

bot in the top twenty

because you had spotters

that judged from the

sidelines and you had

judges on the floor.

So it was pretty cool.

Next, we're going to talk about, my gosh,

there's so much news.

And we are flying through all this.

The WFP, or the World Fitness Project,

has signed four athletes.

And every time I check, there's a new one.

So this is as of seven thirty p.m.

Eastern time.

They have signed four athletes.

They include Chandler Smith, Alex,

Alex Gazan, Brooke Wells and Pat Velner.

Those have been announced.

You can go out to the WFP

Instagram page and you can

see that they have been signed.

That means that they have

been given their pro card

for the twenty twenty five season.

And then they will have to

finish in the top twenty of

this season to keep it.

In addition to that,

it was just announced

earlier today that Will

Morad will be on coffee

pods and wads later this week,

I think on the twenty sixth.

and hopefully during that uh

interview he will give much

more detail about how the

season will work and maybe

explain the nuances of the

different pieces I know

they put out a thing trying

to explain the the the

trials right before the

final and it's still in

verb and words didn't seem

to make a lot of sense to

me so I'm hoping he goes

into a little more detail

about that on thursday's

show because I think I get

the rest of it I think I

get the challenger I think

I get the tour dates that

you can earn more points at

the tour you can earn some

as a challenger yeah and

then but the trials makes

no sense to me at this point and the

The trial,

what was double the finals or trials?

One of them was double points.

The finals.

Yeah.

So, well, we knew Pat would be there.

So yeah, that actually surprised you.

I'm surprised he wasn't the

first announcement.

Yeah.

And it's been a mix like so far, like,

you know,

Chandler and Pat are kind of on

the back end of their

career where Alex is at the

front end of her career.

Brooks, maybe in the middle-ish, you know,

who knows, but that, uh, so anyway, uh,

TR says the trials are for

other categories.

I feel like it's for

everyone or at least to like get a,

become a challenger.

It's for everyone,

but I don't know what that meant.

So.

Okay.

Maybe as inside information.

Hmm.

So then another announcement

was made this week.

I think the WFP and CrossFit

are at a battle of now that

information is getting released,

who can get theirs out first.

And it's just like every day

stuff is going back and forth,

back and forth.

So, and this one was a pretty big one.

They announced CrossFit did the,

and I'm going to share my screen.

They announced the locations

for the in-person semifinals.

Okay.

And that is on this page.

I just have to shut down Mr.

Ritchie and go to in-person

qualifying events.

And here you will see them listed.

Mayhem Classic is the first

one on the docket in Cookville,

Tennessee.

They have announced that all

the details of their

in-person semi will be on a

podcast tomorrow, released by Mayhem.

Wadland Fest is in Malaga, Spain.

And I went to their website.

They don't even have a

website up yet for this.

And I have not been able to

find out any information yet on this.

French Throwdown did have

some information out.

I think they are having a

separate qualifier.

If I remember right, I'm going to look.

Yeah,

three qualifying wads for individuals

and teams.

A change designed to allow

optimal participation

without compromising the

intensity or quality of the event.

And the earlier

qualification date is

perfect for prepping for

the CrossFit Open.

So they're going to be before the Open.

And those will be run from February

Which one is that one for?

That's a French throwdown.

Their qualifiers are before the Open?

Yeah.

Three workouts prior to the Open.

It is weird.

I just wanted to see how

they were all doing it,

so I went out and looked

for every one of them to

see if they had put up information.

That's what I got from them.

Rebel Renegade Games,

nothing out on them yet.

They still have last year's website up.

Far East Throwdown is set up,

but there's no information there yet.

So they look like they're on

the cusp of having some

information out there,

just not quite released yet.

Then we have the Syndicate Crown.

Nothing new up there.

It's actually last year's

information if you go to their website.

The Torium Pro has the most

information out there.

They are using the three

weeks of the open and then

a fourth extra week that

you have to do through

Competition Corner.

So you have to do the first

three weeks through the game site,

do all the stuff you would do in the past,

video, all of that stuff.

Then you have to do a fourth

workout through Competition Corner.

You have to video that as

well and be ready to submit

that to Torian.

for that information.

They're also allowing

themselves the liberty to

give past champions of the

Torium Pro an automatic bid,

as well as any elite

athlete they deem

appropriate can be given an

automatic bid to the competition.

that's how they are running

theirs and it looks like

they're going with a

minimum of thirty men and

thirty women and in the

qualifier and even if they

do automatic bids that the

qualifiers will stay at thirty

Fittest Experience looks

like their website is

expanding from just the one

that it's always been to

now like a three event website,

but it has not been fully constructed.

And there's no details about

the Oklahoma City event.

And there's not even a date for that yet.

And then finally, Copa Sur.

They have a website saying

information coming soon for

the upcoming season,

but no details on that yet.

One thing I did forget to

mention is Angelo DiCicco

said on Shut Up and

Scribble that the Mayhem

Classic will be done using the Open,

the qualifier.

That they did not want to

add online qualifier to the

menu for these athletes.

They're just going to use

something that they're already doing.

The allocation of spots is

two men and two women at

every event except for

Renegade Games and the Far

East Throwdown.

Yeah, I don't know how I feel about that.

it's weird to me because now

that there are no regions

and anybody can in the

world can go to these things.

I don't know why one would

be different than the other, but okay.

Yeah.

I almost feel like it needs

to be a depth of field, like choice once,

once athletes sign up.

Although, I mean,

I guess then you get to the

end and I don't know.

It's just weird that it's preset to me.

If they truly can go everywhere.

Yeah, I agree.

You have no idea.

You can go to one of the

North America or European

ones and it's loaded, loaded.

And then you go to another

one that has no one.

It's just by chance.

Right.

If you go to the one with Tia, that sucks.

I don't know.

She might probably get in on the open.

But someone like that,

if you go to that one,

I feel like some of those

just need an automatic spot.

And both of the European

ones are literally a week

away from the online semis.

Both European ones.

It goes like Europe, online, Europe.

That's a huge disadvantage.

I feel like they

intentionally did that to

keep any Americans from

going to either of those.

So if you're in America,

you aren't trying to travel

the week of the online semifinals.

You need to get those done.

And so you aren't going to

go take one of those spots over there.

Those people that live over there,

a little less probably

travel time issues.

I hate the timing of both of those.

I just find it would be way

cleaner if you had the Open,

you had the online semifinals,

let's say in April, early April.

Yeah.

And then you know exactly

who the fourteen or however

many spots are in the online.

And then people can decide, OK,

I've qualified or I haven't.

Let me go to let me go to one.

Let me go to two or whatever

they want to do.

But you have like an online

semifinal sandwich in the

middle where it's going to

take a little bit for the scores to be,

you know, finalized.

Like I look at most of these

and it'd be like, OK, two spots like.

realistically, I'm not getting two spots.

Like I'm not even wasting my

time traveling to like,

let me just go for the,

like go for the online.

Like, you know, like realistically,

like I started looking at.

Yeah.

And I think that's what a

lot of the Americans are

going to have to do.

Like that's unless you want

to go do the in-person or

you want to go over there, get acclimated,

do your in-person in there

and then compete.

It's like, I have a full-time job.

So like, I can't just travel, you know,

across anywhere so it would

have to be something that's

staying relatively in the

same time zone ish and you

look at like two and it's

like well north america

everyone's gonna be going

to the north america ones

because it's just easier as

like a north american and

you're like well that's

there's like no spots you

know american athletes are

going to travel they have

always done it in the past

but it's not going to be a

huge number I don't think I

I don't think very many will be at the

woodland or french throwdown

maybe not those two with

with the online semifinals

being sandwiched nope they

just won't I don't can't I

honestly can't even picture

who would no but they'll be

at brazil and they'll be at

oh or east yeah there will

yeah there will be people

that you know especially

post uh in philly at

semifinals once they know

what they need to do and

see some of these yeah they'll travel but

But I almost feel like those

two were intentionally

placed overseas to sandwich the NFL.

But I think that sucks for the Europeans,

though.

Because let's say you do go,

and Europe is extremely deep.

So if you go to one of the

online and you don't get those two spots,

now you've put yourself at

a disadvantage for the online semifinals.

Yeah.

Or let's say you just did

the online semifinals.

You just missed out.

now you're going trying to

tired and yeah like I think

the europeans are at a big

disadvantage here yeah and

I I do not know why the

heck mayhem classic chose

to be that first week of

april and it's the same

weekend as the age group

same weekend as age group

they always host their age

group athletes they usually

have like twenty thirty people there

running it as a, you know,

almost like an in-house competition.

So Angelo did say that that

was not their choice.

They were given a weekend

that they had to use?

Pretty much.

And theirs is only two days?

Yeah, theirs is two days.

No, three.

May thirtieth to June first.

No, I'm on their own.

That's two days.

April fifth and six.

Yeah.

I, I don't like that at all.

And in it quite, I mean, it's,

it takes a thirty five year

old out of the mix to even try that one.

Yeah.

Like I can't go to the mayhem one.

Yeah.

Nostalgia wise mayhem

classic was my favorite competition ever.

Uh,

so I'm stoked and it's drivable for me

and anything that's

drivable makes it more affordable.

Um, so in trying to attend, uh,

so I can drive to Knoxville

and I can drive to Cookville.

Yeah.

Those two are way too close to each other.

The,

I also hate that they pair put both of

those on why, like,

fine don't have games run it

but like you needed a venue

like that like you needed a

different location down by

texas you're good over

there you have your kind of

southern one with either

syndicate or like I it's

just they need to yeah they

have nothing on the west

side at all well I would

yeah a lot of the comments

talk about that no west

coast I feel like

oklahoma's it's like right

above texas right

That's smack dab in the middle.

That's central.

I feel like that's closer to

like California than we are

to getting to Oklahoma.

Sure.

It's closer to Japan too,

but that doesn't mean.

Well, where's the like Northern,

where's the one easier for

all the Canadians to get to?

We never have it easy.

We always have to travel.

It's Americans that don't travel.

You could have kept something Northern.

I mean, I could, I could complain a lot,

but the other thing is when

they're in Tennessee,

there's people that show up

because there's all the camps.

They're going to go twice now.

I doubt it.

That's another problem.

People are getting in.

Yeah.

There's only two people.

Like that's literally

nothing with the amount of

athletes we have.

I mean,

I'm not traveling to that location twice.

get new fans if you open it

up in a different area I

think it's week one I think

they scrambled our year one

I think they scrambled into

what they could get and my

guess I don't know every

it's too early to guess but

my guess is they're gonna

go back to like this

in-person semi-final of

like two people and it's

gonna be more widespread of

of third party events

holding these things.

And, and, but I don't know, I don't,

maybe I'm wrong.

And like the,

like you either need to do

the online semifinals as the first thing,

or you move the sanctionals

up a little bit.

And then the online

semifinals is the last chance qualifier.

And that's after, and it's a last,

you know,

last you know catcher of all

the type of semi-finals

that happen um like that

would make the most sense

and then at least the top

two podiums like are

guaranteed to have spots

and it's like people are

going to be going to some

of the events and have

already qualified so it's

going to be like oh like

the fifth person here it

would just look cleaner if

it was top two or whatever

I'm gonna say something

harsh to lynn's comment here

Scott, the fans aren't going to go twice.

It's too much CrossFit.

Then you're not a fan.

If you're the fan of the

sport and you're the fan of

these athletes,

then it would be worth it

for you to go twice.

In addition, in this format,

there are two different events,

two different sets of programming.

It'll probably be two

different lineups of athletes.

I sure as hell would go twice.

knoxville and cookville have

two different vibes for

like if you're going to

visit the town in addition

to that that's just my

opinion like if if you're a

fan that that wants it just

one way and you only want

to go to one thing then

we're not really fans and

then we're trying to build

a sport on top of something

that it can't support it

I don't, I don't disagree, but you're,

you're essentially asking

that local population to

all just drive in and go to that cop.

And the people in Detroit

get bored with going to

watch a football game every week.

No, cause it's a, no,

we've talked about that.

That's, I mean, I don't know.

It's just,

that's completely different with

the short, short game time.

As opposed to going in, would they go?

I think these are going to

be way shorter than what we're used to.

It's too expensive.

Like I wouldn't,

as much as I'd like to go

watch both of these events and leave,

like I,

like I can't go watch two events

for accommodation, flight tickets.

Like that's just too much.

At least you'd get a huge

local pool if it was one,

and then you go in a whole different area,

like Colorado, whatever,

wherever they chose.

You get a different group of locals,

and you're asking the exact

same group to go back twice, essentially.

One,

we don't even know what the ticket

prices are yet, right?

Probably a lot,

but it wasn't last time at Mayhem.

But we don't know.

We don't know how they're

going to run it this year.

And it's only going to be

individual elite athletes.

They're not doing teams at semis,

are they?

So you don't have all that stuff going on.

It's going to be very,

very narrowed down as to your day, too.

You're going to be done by

three o'clock in the

afternoon and then get to

go do something in the evening.

It's going to be a different

experience this year than

it's been in the past.

you might have more time

more time to go spend even

more money I don't know

like stepped up to run

these competitions and

that's what they had to go

with and really the most

populous area of crossfit

in the country right now is

probably that georgia north

carolina tennessee ohio

area right so it's it's

where the most people are

to pull in for those two events

And at least they aren't...

We didn't do Mac and

Syndicate at the exact same

location two weeks back-to-back.

That was a disaster.

This is two different cities,

two different locations.

People are going to go to

Mayhem just to go to Mayhem.

Sure.

So... I mean,

that one can't be as big as

the other ones.

There's a limited number of

seats at Mayhem.

It'll be packed, but...

molo thinks that mayhem will

have the highest and I

don't think they can they

don't have the capacity

like torian I'll do mayhem

they just will it's gonna

be a boutique semi-final

and that's another thing

it's going to be completely

different than knoxville

right knoxville is going to

be your traditional bigger

arena people are going to

flood in there and then

like if you go to mayhem

you're looking for that

boutique experience

where you're going to be

right in a small area with

all the athletes, with all the spectators,

with all the vendors.

It'll be like crash.

Yeah.

Probably, you know, no dig on crash,

but a little bit bigger.

Yeah.

But like that kind of like more intimate,

closer to the athletes type feel.

Yeah.

So again,

I think it's two different offerings,

even though they're both in

the same state.

I digress.

We're going to get back into

this because we're already over an hour.

Dave Castro appeared on Savan last night,

making his first public appearance,

answering questions since

the CrossFit Games.

I tuned in last night.

I was really tired when I watched this.

I tried to take as many good

notes as I could.

I wrote them down,

but I watched it till two

o'clock in the morning.

Yeah.

All for you guys, man.

Also, I know what's going on.

Good.

I will say that when asked

questions about the twenty

twenty four games specifically,

he declined to comment on many of them.

Um,

and I think rightfully so for legal

reasons on some of them.

And then for other reasons, uh,

when he was asked about his

personal journey through all of this,

he wanted to keep that private.

Um,

because it ha it does seem like it has

been a journey through this, uh,

in dealing with all of this.

And, um,

but he wanted to keep that private

between him and his family.

When he got into the twenty

twenty five season he said

the qualification will work

wherever you qualify for the games first.

That will be where your

qualification comes from.

If you attend any event

after that then it'll be

like you're crossed off the

list and it's the next

person after you that gets the nod.

You can still win the event,

win prize money if it's there,

do those kinds of things.

But just like at the sanctional time,

you know,

if first and second have already

had their qualification,

third gets the nod.

But it is based on wherever

you earn it first.

He then said there would be

a new procedure included

with online semifinals to

get the final results out faster.

And he was speaking in

reference to the online

judging and all of that.

So I'm anxious to know,

this is where I think,

can the AFJ play a role?

Because he did acknowledge

them in this interview, all but briefly,

but he did acknowledge them.

And you know we're going to

the public release of these videos.

So I'm wondering if they are

going to take a different

approach to the online

video review through this

to get the results out faster.

Because he said they didn't

want them laying in limbo

while other events then

started and you don't know

who qualified out of that.

So I think there's going to

be some changes there that are good.

admitted that the ideas like

the Community Cup need to

stay in place longer than five years,

or longer than they typically are, i.e.

five years,

and develop and people need to

be patient as it grows.

He also,

he made an admission that the

games visually look like

they were growing more than

they actually were.

And then he wrote that

probably too hard and should

have backed off early on in

the game's history and not

move them up to bigger

locations because they

truly weren't ready behind the scenes.

Hmm.

He said this year he has

reached out to athletes Dallin Pepper,

Colton Mertens, Paige Powers,

and Saxon Pancheck to get

feedback on how the online

semifinal should run,

how the judging should go,

how the video review should go,

things like that.

He said that specifically

Dallin and Saxon were

laser-focused with ideas and thoughts,

but he got good feedback

from the others as well.

but this will be what the

athlete council will be

used for in the future.

This year, he just grabbed them.

He also invited Danielle

Brandon and Brooke Wells,

but because of the last minute nature,

they weren't able to attend.

Um,

And then finally,

he would not confirm Albany

as the site for the twenty

twenty five CrossFit games.

But he did say that they

were one of the finalists

and one of the places they did check out.

But he said it would not be

fair to the other to

confirm anything in that direction.

Where have people heard Albany?

I don't know.

I've only ever heard.

I was shocked when JR said

it on Shut Up and Scribble

on Thursday or Friday, whenever that was.

And I texted you guys immediately and said,

did he just say the games

are going to be in Albany?

To me,

it just seems like there's so much

leaked information to

certain groups of like

podcasters and people.

And I'm like.

yeah again it comes back to

my point of the unknown and

unknowable with the sport

just does not work like

there's so many groups of

people that just know

things yeah like that's not

normal that's not normal in

a sport whether it's

locations workouts how

things are going to be

working video wise like you

can prepare for you know

that information like it's

just there's so much

unknown that is just not even

You need to be in the know of things.

I don't think they get it

from Twitter because Carolyn's on there.

She would have gotten it.

Well,

I think there are pockets of Twitter

that have all the rumors,

and then I think people answer them.

Yeah,

and I think if you want to get more

deep in the black hole of things,

you go to Reddit and see

the rumors there.

Yeah.

Uh,

Craig says Cleveland would be a cool

location for the games.

I would, I'd go for Cleveland.

That's an hour and a half drive for me.

I'd go for Cleveland.

Uh,

but I would really prefer Columbus and

I would have a backyard

barbecue for everybody on

this show and in the

audience to come hang out.

I promise.

Roe would probably prefer that too.

Yeah.

I think Columbus would be a great place.

It's a sports town, similar to Madison,

uh,

probably easier for hotels

and stuff than madison it

would be a good location

and then with rogue there

well it's a it's a it's a

convention capital right

it's not as big as

indianapolis for that but

it's it's getting there and

they have a lot of venues

we have two soccer stadiums

we have a baseball stadium

we have a hockey arena we

have a huge college football stadium

Like we have a lot of

different things and like

the soccer stadium only

seats like twenty thousand.

And I think they even cut

off part of it to like put

a stage in because there's

concerts there now.

So it might even be less than that now.

But it's a really nice and

they they don't even use it

for soccer anymore because

the new one got built downtown.

Yeah, it's great.

We have so many venues here.

So many venues.

And like the Arnold has shown,

you can hold like one

hundred and seventy seven

different sports in one

weekend here in Columbus

because of all the venues

and the convention center

and all of that.

So.

Of course,

as Brian's been as eyes everywhere,

it's wild how he gets news.

I think he also has a lot of

good contacts that share

information with him.

And Whitney says that that's

what they said.

They got it off Twitter.

So, yeah, I,

I need to be more adept at Twitter.

I just,

I don't think I'm following the

right people.

Yeah.

Cause if you're not following the right,

it's just like Instagram.

If you're not following the right people,

you'd never see what they say.

So you got to find the right

people to follow to kind of

get in the right, in the right groove.

It's just notifications for the most part.

You just like turn them on.

Just like a podcast,

just like here turning on

your notifications.

Yeah,

but following the CrossFit Games is

not going to get you the leaks.

It's only going to get you

the official releases.

You've got to find the

person that knows the leaks

to follow them to then get,

you know what I mean?

Well,

I don't think most of the leaks are

going online.

Most of the leaks are

getting probably texted to

people or taking videos of

how to do box stepovers for Chad and...

It will always be Twitter.

I can't call it X. I agree.

No,

I refuse to call it X. Dave also said

that he is going to start

doing the weekly reviews again.

Oh, really?

Yeah.

And maybe as soon as tomorrow.

Wow.

He said it's something he

has to get back to doing,

but he did it in a paused

breath that it's not going

to be easy for him to do the first couple,

and I can understand that.

And I would assume the

comments will get very back and forth.

Because he had to shut down

the comments for his weekend review,

and he was deleting a bunch of them.

during the games, obviously.

But I'll assume that the

first few will be very

difficult in the comments.

He did address that kind of

stuff about how he's handling it.

And he said that he's

learned that if it's not

coming from his family or

his close friends,

that it just doesn't matter.

And he had to take that

approach because of all the

comments that were coming in.

So, yeah,

Whitney said that interview was

hard for him,

but it was great and was

good to see him back.

It did look very hard for him, I will say.

And Sevan kept pushing,

kept asking the questions

that everybody once asked.

And Dave just took a deep breath and said,

I will not answer that or I

cannot answer that.

I'm going to keep that private.

But he did talk about a lot

of things around the

upcoming season for sure.

So just last couple things,

and then we'll hit

Carolyn's thing real quick

and get your feedback.

Emma Tall announced that

she's probably out for the

twenty twenty five season

and not because of anything

other than CrossFit's

response to the PFA.

Yeah.

I addressed this on the

lunch with the Clydesdale.

Carolyn Lambray was clipped

in an interview with Coffee

Pods and Wads.

Whenever I see a clip,

I go watch the full

interview to make sure that

it's in the context of

fully um I think what she

said was not taken out of

context but I think she was

trying to explain some

things and it may have

gotten away from her uh

from what she may have

meant and I thought

actually she had a lot of

great ideas um for some

simple changes that could be made to the

And really,

she was just trying to defend

that everybody keeps saying,

what have the athletes done

for the affiliate?

And then she answered it in

a way that didn't come across real well.

Yeah.

But she's an affiliate owner,

and she talks about how

they're striving.

They like,

she's caught in the middle of

being an elite coach and an

affiliate owner who they

don't want to give up the CrossFit name.

They believe in the methodology.

She's a CrossFit level four.

She has drank the Kool-Aid.

She believes in the

methodology so much and

wants to keep doing that as

an affiliate owner.

But as an elite coach,

she has to kind of separate

that out a little bit.

So, um,

I just, if you have any thoughts on that,

I think you should go watch

the full interview because

I think it comes across

better as in the full

interview than it did in the clip.

And I've known Carolyn a long time and I,

and I think she's just,

she's a good hearted person.

Um,

And she's trying.

Most people that left the

games last year are not talking.

And she is.

And I think that she's

trying to explain things in

ways for people to understand.

And sometimes her tone gets tied.

And she doesn't need me to defend her.

She can speak for herself.

But I just implore you to

watch the entire interview,

not just the clip.

So last question,

and this has been on our

minds for a couple weeks.

Carolyn brought this up a

few weeks ago when we were

talking about High Rocks.

The one thing that High

Rocks does well is it gets

the community involved in

one location at one time to

do this big event all

together in the same day.

How can we as CrossFit

design an event that

travels from town to town

And allows the Community to

come together on one day and do an event.

And so I'm going to throw it

to carolyn because this is her idea,

I have some thoughts of my

own but I'll let Jamie and

carolyn talk first.

don't even have a specific

like workout or anything um

I forgot to think about it

this week but like I just

think that the hyrox has a

great model of like

something that's being like

can be repeated anywhere um

obviously the hyrox is

extremely running dependent

um and very biased to that

like it would be cool to

have something like that

that could travel and it's

you know in the range of maybe

something that'd be worth it

for people to get like to

go to but it could be like

multiple workouts that are

back to back and it's like

your total time um but more

more cross-fitty I guess

and easy to judge because

and accessible I guess so

we were just trying to

think of different workouts

that could be done that you

travel and you you'd get

your top score and then

You can have your world

championship of that,

but it's a little bit more

balanced is the best way to say it.

Like the, like I like the high rocks event,

but it's extremely biased

towards running and moderate,

moderate strength.

No, no major gymnastics.

So just kind of bouncing the

idea of like what type of

movements would you want to see in there?

Um, how long would it be?

Would it be multiple workouts,

multiple benchmark workouts,

maybe back to back in it?

Every second counts type thing.

Yeah.

Corey went every second counts with you.

Uh, Craig said, Helen, Fran here.

Yeah.

I mean,

that's kind of where my head goes

as a gauntlet type, a power hour,

if you will,

but maybe make it like a two hour thing.

But, um,

of, yeah, like Nate,

like some twenty-minute

AMRAPs with five-minute break,

and then you're moving into

the next thing.

Maybe you throw a lift in there,

or a complex of some sort,

or maybe throw the total in there,

and that's part of your forty minutes.

But yeah,

I do think we could select a

couple benchmarks.

And like writing can be in there for sure.

It should be in there.

Yeah.

I just don't think it should

be the only thing in there.

Like not the,

not that hierarchy is the only thing,

but it's, it's significant.

But sometimes it could be

easy to judge like,

and that most people can show up and,

and do, but you,

it's still weeds out certain people.

And yeah,

like you could basically just

train for it every year and

you can go to different locations and,

and,

do your time and then you

have the world championships.

Like I think something like that,

like a traveling CrossFit,

like more CrossFit

competition would be cool.

So some of the early workout

or some of the early

competitions I did when I

got into CrossFit were waterfall style,

right?

And that would lend itself

perfectly to this traveling

version of it where you do

one workout right into the next.

And usually they have like a time cap.

And then if you're done,

you get the rest of the time cap.

If you're not,

you just move to the next

one and then off you go.

But as you were talking, Jamie,

you said the word gauntlet.

And then it was like ding, ding, ding,

ding.

Waterpalooza has done the

gauntlet like every year

that I went and and.

It is a one-hour workout,

a series of workouts that

go together that equal one hour.

You could make that a

traveling show and put it

in a convention center

where you'd actually have, like,

you could run four hundreds

or you could run different

things during the workouts.

loud live has done an

awesome job programming the

gauntlet year over year and

they have different levels

that you can sign up for

you can sign up scaled or

intermediate or elite um or

rx or whatever they they call that but

I think we have it out there.

It's does anybody want to

invest in it for it to be

this traveling community thing?

And I think we have to get

back to a grassroots sense

of attracting people back

to the methodology first

and the sport second.

And that's what I think this

traveling thing can be.

Yeah.

Cause it's like the open is

like our mass participation event,

but this one would be at

different times of the year

and like the same workout

and it's repeatable,

which people often say, like,

like we'll say like, Oh,

like CrossFit needs to be a

little bit more, um,

something that you can test and retest.

And it's like, that's,

this would be like a

traveling thing that you

can do at different times of the year,

measure up against other

people and people from

different sports can enter

it with their backgrounds.

and see how they measure up

to our best athletes.

And if you do the elite

version of it and you get a

qualifying time,

there could be a world

championships of this

traveling thing with a new

set of workouts,

one hour in length that happens.

Bam.

Right.

Yeah.

And you can do a team

version of it and you can

make it basically the same

idea as a high rocks.

But again, it's just more, like you said,

gauntlet style, like a water blues,

a gauntlet style hour where

it's still worth it for

people to travel a certain

distance that it's not just

like a. Ten minute workout.

Um, yeah,

people travel for what half marathons,

quarter marathons, five Ks, ten Ks.

Um,

I think that an hour is a good length

for that, right?

And you get to hang out with

people from other

affiliates and other states

and see how they do it.

What's their gym like?

And you can talk to people

about different things.

I know we would travel all over.

I drank the Kool-Aid so hard

when I first got into CrossFit.

We traveled all over the

state to go to competitions.

And you'd meet new people.

And I think this is a way to

kind of bring that back.

Um, now that CrossFit has grown,

like I could do a

competition a month in

Columbus and never leave Columbus.

Yeah.

And maybe get back to where

you go out and discover

other people who are doing

the same thing you're doing.

And maybe you have like a

couple athletes show up to

sign autographs, take pictures,

do that kind of thing off to the side.

Right.

in like a little mini vendor

village because one thing

like crossfitters when

they're out doing stuff

they want to spend money

never have too much gear so

I think I think it's a

really cool idea and

something that like um and

hell if once we establish

levels you could do that

like right on the level

three I want to do the

level three traveling

Gauntlet.

And you go do that, right?

An easy way to kind of

bracket you into your

different divisions.

We'd like fifty percent of

whatever the money from this idea.

But yeah, like I mean,

I feel like thrusters would

need to be put in there.

um like just like oh yeah

more crossfit stuff like

you don't see many I mean

and if you don't want to do

it with a barbell for like

it bouncing let's say if it

gets dropping it's you know

maybe it's dumbbells it's

something but burpees need

to be in there some sort of

pull up but running yeah

I mean,

from what I've seen on videos like

High Rocks, you can set up the stations.

Station one is this workout.

You move over to station two,

that's this workout.

And you move through the flow.

And you can have different

ergs in there too, not just like running.

You have... Yep.

You can do like... Yeah.

I don't know.

I'd like to see maybe like Jackie,

but like Jackie Pro.

So if you had your levels, it'd be...

Jackie's more like your entry level.

That would be level tens.

The only thing with those is

you need to cap people

because if you have a mask,

you'd have to have people going through.

Yeah.

And it could be like max... I don't know.

Maybe a max movement at some

point at the end.

Yeah.

Two cave biker in between events.

Yeah.

I'd actually be good at that,

but I would not like it after.

Yeah.

So maybe in the comments this week,

put the workouts or ideas

that you would have for

this CrossFit traveling race.

Yeah.

We should come up with our ideal.

Yeah.

Our ideal gauntlet that we would write.

Yeah.

We'll have to do that.

All right.

So our homework for next

week is we all come up with a one hour.

I'm making my ninety minutes.

Of course you are.

All right.

I'll think about it.

We'll see.

We all come up with one one

hour workout for a gauntlet

to travel around the country.

Okay.

Sounds fun.

Okay.

I have one question for Jamie.

Yep.

Did you ever open the box?

I sent you.

No, I haven't.

It's under the tree.

It's under the tree where it belongs.

You're the only person not

to open the box.

And I wanted to make an announcement.

So if she opens it up on

Christmas next week,

we're going to do a giveaway.

Yeah.

We wrapped hers so that I like,

I know what it is.

And then I wrapped it for Christmas.

All right.

So next week,

next week we're going to do

our first giveaway.

And it's pretty cool.

I think you'll like it.

But if you at home want to

come up with your own one

hour gauntlet workout,

it has to be done in an hour.

I protest the hour.

Mine might be like eighty minutes.

We can start with an hour.

People aren't showing up then.

I'm just kidding.

We're talking about CrossFitters here.

We're not talking about runners.

We'll see.

Go do your high rocks and

then come back and do this

homework assignment.

It can be three to four

different workouts with a

rest in between.

There can be time caps on each person,

like on each thing so that

people can move through it.

Whatever version you want.

Put that in the comments.

Yeah.

Let's create something.

Yeah,

put that in the comments of the

YouTube and when you're done.

We will pick a winner.

To receive one of our

giveaway items next week.

Okay.

with that uh it's been a

blast as always guys thank

you so much for being here

uh we love hanging out with

you every sunday night I

will be here all weekend

all week long doing the

lunch with the clydesdale

may skip christmas uh but

we'll do uh some days this week

And then Roundtable,

I don't know if we're doing

it this week or not.

We'll find out.

And then be back next Sunday

for Sunday Night CrossFit Talk.

With that, thank you so much, guys.

See you guys next week.

Bye.

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