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Where triathlon meets real talk. Hosted by two seasoned triathletes and one Sarah, this podcast takes a deep dive into the controversies, challenges, and triumphs of the triathlete world.
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Lockie
All righty, ladies and gentlemen, look, before we start. I just think we 100%. We need to give a quick round of applause to the sport of triathlon.
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Lleyton
Triathlon?
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Lockie
Triathlon is the real winner this weekend. We are here to recap the greatest event, I think ever, ever.
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Lleyton
Especially in Australia.
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Lockie
Let's give it a cheers.
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Lleyton
Cheers to that. Oh!
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Lockie
Oh, she is right. She is.
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Lockie
I feel like I am are, They,
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Lleyton
Hello. Official biz. Oh, wow, that.
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Lockie
Is so yummy. Oh.
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Lleyton
My.
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Lockie
You're going to be sticky after that.
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Lleyton
It's very sticky. The celebrations don't stop. What do I can?
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Lockie
Oh, that was. Honestly, I think if you're a fan of the sport and you're a fan of Trouw on, then that weekend was one of the greatest weekends we've ever seen. I've been to a couple world championships before. I've witnessed a couple of world champions firsthand. You have as well. I think we spoke, on the weekend about Lausanne.
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Lleyton
Yeah, that was cool. That was really cool.
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Lockie
But I still just think as a festival, as, the atmosphere, the crowd, the commentary, the athletes, what happened in the races? I just don't think there has been a championship series quite like that. Or championship grand final.
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Lleyton
Every single race, everything was up to the very last to the finish line. Everything was to the finish line. Everything was amazing. I think the Aussie atmosphere was was crazy down there. We weren't there, but we watched every single race. Yeah, glued to the phone, watching every single triathlon race. I don't think I've watched more triathlon in my life.
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Lleyton
Oh, I know over those four days.
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Lockie
I tried to plan my whole life from Thursday to Sunday around those races. It was like, okay, my training schedule, my work schedule, I need to block out these two hours of whatever race to just be in trough on side because,
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Lleyton
I was screaming at my phone at times.
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Lockie
There was there was certain races and we'll get into it later. There's certain races where it was honestly like, I've never been more of, a dad standing up, arms folded, watching the TV, like, just so intently trying to figure out points. Goal is trying to figure out this, in that it was, on as if we could go on about all day and we probably are going to go in it for about an hour.
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Lockie
We yeah, we've got we've got a couple things. I think we've just got a highlight. We've tried to highlight the key points. Yeah.
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Lleyton
The big the big moves and the shakes of the weekend. Like it was all massive. Like we could go through every single result. Everything that happened over the weekend and that was so much. Yeah, yeah. But there were a fifth like a few things that were pretty special, I guess in the world Series and as Australians.
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Lleyton
Yeah. Which was pretty cool, which will highlight mainly. Yeah. Today, like we can't, can't go through everything because there was just so much go watch every single hour of those races. Yeah. And you'll be just drawn in.
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Lockie
You know what we're talking about. Yeah. First and foremost, I think the one that really kicked off, I guess the week and especially again, we were trying to keep our bias aside here. But Rochelle Hills sprint finish to take the, the 23 world title.
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Lleyton
It was crazy love. I've never been so in like into my phone. I was screaming at the phone when she came around that last corner. I was actually screaming if.
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Lockie
If like and again, like we've said, there's been a couple times that we've bagged world triathlons. Commentary.
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Lleyton
Oh, it was great. Will we.
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Lockie
Will.
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Lleyton
McCloy and Belinda Granger, they did a great job and I think that's what added to it. When we were at home, we weren't at the event, but those guys made it feel like you were there. They had that energy that we've asked for for so long. We don't want a couple of boring Brits there. Yeah, talking about the old school triathlon, like it's private school sport.
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Lleyton
It's like running through some exciting action. And those two boys, I think that's what made the at home experience so good.
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Lockie
That goosebump energy, when you got somebody else screaming like he like Will sitting up in a booth screaming at the same thing that way and watching that. So it's like like it then draws you in and it gives you that oh shit. Like, yeah, this is exciting. This is super exciting. So, honestly, I think that was probably one of the most dramatic sprint finishes that I've ever seen at such a young young A level as well.
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Lockie
Yeah.
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Lleyton
Pop on the text line is off. There are the champagne. She out of the box? Yeah, I was unfinished.
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Lockie
But yeah, honestly, I think like that that probably is one of the most dramatic sprint finishes I've ever seen.
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Lleyton
And she kind of in that run, yo, back and forth off that front pack a couple. And those girls made that run really exciting. You had the Italian guy off the front, or was it the Czech that went off the front early, then got caught, then the Italian went off the front, got caught, and then Rochelle comes through in the last 100m on the blue carpet and wins it by like ten meters.
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Lockie
It was flying too, like flying and seeing the crowd as well, like even for a Thursday afternoon and under 20 threes, which is like typically.
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Lleyton
Is the first event of the yeah, I guess a late, you know, kind of racing.
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Lockie
You typically think like the under 20 threes tend to draw a little bit less of a crowd because, you know, sometimes the quality isn't quite there. You got your top end on the 20 threes that race elites, the crowd the, the I guess the field is a little bit smaller. So to still be able to draw such a big crowd and like we said, when we were doing, the previews on the races for so many quality athletes to still come all the way to Australia and race that it made for such exciting race.
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Lleyton
We had in that, I believe the under 20 threes, a oh seconds silver medalist, the world champs, those a few medalists at world Championships. Yeah that were racing that race.
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Lockie
Yeah I can't remember if they were the one, 2 or 3 from last year.
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Lleyton
I think the junior women had a one, two, three as well. Yeah, it was pretty stacked. Both those I guess junior elite women races.
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Lockie
I think like and again back to Rochelle. She's kind of starting to you know, you're almost asking the question now especially for the Aussie female.
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Lleyton
The next next big thing is she.
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Lockie
Is she a lock for the next Olympics like is we've we've spoken about Aspen Anderson. We've spoken about Addie host we've spoken about, you know, hoisting with like we've had these athletes as is in ski.
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Lleyton
And that was very impressive.
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Lockie
Also really don't want to just like we want to make sure that Tara's excuse does not go under the radar here because seventh place in a world Championships as well, like seven points on the 23 like that. It's some of the best results we've.
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Lleyton
And she has another year in the category. Exactly. Impressive as well.
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Lockie
So we want to like Tara star in her own right is very much an up and comer who is killing it too. So Rachel's win. Phenomenal. Tara's is also a phenomenal seventh. The big thing with both of those two girls that we were a bit unsure of is that they were both pretty dominant at the start of the year, and I know Rochelle had a bit of a minor injury.
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Lockie
We're not too.
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Lleyton
Sure it was stress related to, I believe.
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Lockie
But, both of them chose to stay at home instead of go over and race the European circuit, which is pretty unheard of, especially at that age.
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Lleyton
Exactly right. You would have expected them to go overseas, race a couple of European World Cups and then come back here. But it paid dividends to stay at home, grind away in in the corner out of the bright lights of the world, you know, World Cup sane to stay here and train. And they trained well and they executed on that big day.
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Lleyton
That's all that really mattered to them. It didn't matter the World Cups. Yeah, I wanted to go win an under 23 world champs. And they both well Rochelle won an entire came seventh.
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Lockie
Put herself in the best position possible. And as an under 23 sometimes that is the big picture. Like if you're not quite like you got your mom bodies and you and your Hendrick Graf's, who are those top end under 20 threes who are also competitive in the like elite World Series? If you're not quite there yet, master your craft back home and go and fight for a world title, especially if you're an Australian and it's in Australia.
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Lleyton
In Australia, like.
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Lockie
I would understand if you go over for a European world champs and you do a couple races, you know, leading in, but I mean, they probably made the right.
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Lleyton
Choice. I think they didn't choose what races they want to do. Well, because as we said before, with, a couple of the guys that got injured for the Australian junior team, they were racing for so long, so long, they went over to Europe and raced, but these girls stayed at home, trained, raced early season and qualified, trained for the next few months, didn't go, go away and race and, you know, get tired and get injured and whatever else happens.
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Lleyton
And then came back and peaked again at the right time. I think that's credit to their coaches as well. Yeah. And actually two pretty cool coaching relationships. You have Tara with her brother Jack. Yeah. And then you have Rochelle with her mum Raina. Yeah. That's you know I know in the family pretty cool kind of, you know, coaching relationship.
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Lockie
And both of them know about athletes themselves Jack like Jack's is Nijinsky's a long course athlete who does very well, you know, racing himself. And Raina Hill is, you know, an Olympian, like, she's an Australian. Great. So, Yeah, like you said, very, very cool. And, for me, Rochelle's almost giving, like, glimpses of an accidental like her black and run is so strong, like a black especially.
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Lockie
And to be able to run off like we clearly like she just showed she clearly can run off a very strong bike.
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Lleyton
But always the front and showed how strong she was. Yeah.
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Lockie
And I almost think like her assuming like as gentle. Her weakness is this is a swim. But I don't think she.
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Lleyton
Came out in that top.
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Lockie
Hat. Yeah. Rochelle is not that bad of a swimmer. So, Yeah, I don't know. We could be seeing glimpses of a, you know, a future gentle.
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Lleyton
Here, I think so I think she'll be the next the next one to take the place of those elites. Yeah. She's go race a few World Cups in 2028. It's looking pretty good for the.
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Lockie
2020, 2028 and 2032. Like we spoke like again, we've spoken about the junior girls. Like I just said so much. We've kind of overlooked some of these, to 23 girls here and they've just come and put their names. Bang, here we are like, you better put us in the picture. Like we're here, right?
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Lleyton
Yeah. The thing that I really liked about Rochelle's performance was the fact that she didn't give up. She epitomized that Aussie spirit on day one of the world champs, where she could have resigned to second place. She could have gone second place at the World champs. That's pretty bloody good. The first medal for Australia that weekend. She would have been the champion.
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Lleyton
Yeah, but no, she said no if that had gone for the win. Yeah, yeah. And she set the standard for the weekend. I think everyone kind of lifted from that. Like you look at the results throughout the board and they were all pretty good. Yeah. But that's what that was my big thing with Rochelle's performance, she didn't resign to a second place where she could have, you know, that was a fair gap coming into that blue carpet that the Italian had.
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Lleyton
Yeah. And she just gritted teeth and went now and fighting for this.
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Lockie
And you saw at the very end took the tape, dropped the dropped off the whole like exhausted, exhausted, everything.
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Lleyton
That she could give.
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Lockie
Now that's.
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Lleyton
Really good. That was my takeaway from that now it was really impressive.
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Lockie
Yeah, it's very cool. And again like we said with with a race like that, like Rochelle is definitely put herself in the picture of a future elite world champion in.
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Lleyton
The making 100%. Yeah.
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Lockie
And speaking of, elite world champions, the elite women.
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Lleyton
The late it was like they were dropping like flies.
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Lockie
They were dropping like flies. They were moving around the that we, we obviously did our sort of predictions in the preview. And I think, I think we can both agree that we thought it was going to be a beaut. Grant put off sort of battle 100%.
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Lleyton
I did not think of anyone else that was going to be near them. I thought those two run off the front. Yeah, there's a bit of a heel. They'll run up that. Yeah. Drop it. Make it. Got the those two fighting for the next two laps for a win. Yeah.
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Lockie
Sprint finish exactly like we both pick the exact same thing. So a little bit of background if anybody doesn't know. Heading into Wollongong Cassandra Grant, Beth Porter, they were tied for the overall series lead. Jean Le here was third. Laser third. Fourth, Leona only fifth. They were the only five that could win the series. At the end of the day, like, and obviously like a bit of a rundown of the race.
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Lockie
Like we said, everything looks set. Even coming off the block for a blow grant and a showdown like that were both in that front pack. They were both looking like they were doing pretty well.
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Lleyton
Pretty fine. Yeah.
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Lockie
But then all of a sudden, you saw Beau Grant for me was watching her run out of transition. There was that.
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Lleyton
Long way out of transition.
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Lockie
There was that camera angle where I think it was behind her. Yeah, and I thought, she doesn't look right.
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Lleyton
And she was kind of loping that slow cadence.
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Lockie
Yeah, yeah. But then she brought it back up and I thought maybe like it's Cassandra Grant that's like the 2024 Olympic. And well, she.
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Lleyton
Can do anything.
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Lockie
She can do whatever she wants. So, you know, there was a bit of hope. And then I think it was like lap 1 or 2. She she dropped off.
00;19;08;00 - 00;19;08;12
Lleyton
Dropped off.
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Lockie
And didn't look right. That didn't look right. So in the end, Burgundian left. And then I thought these portals by part is just going to win this because she was on the front, I think when, when by Grant dropped off Potter was on the front. Yeah. And so I thought, well this is part, our part is part as the world champion.
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Lockie
One lap later part is off the back. Yeah. And I thought I was I was quickly I got our Instagram post up and I was quickly scrolling through. I was doing the math. I was like, last time, she's going to win this. Like, this is insane. It's you're going to win this. And then from the Chase pack. Yeah, the flying Frenchman Leona Paris.
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Lleyton
There you.
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Lockie
Go. Like one of the most. And then all of a sudden I was doing the maths of that. And I'm thinking, if peril runs up and then like, whoever wins out of these, I was like, it's literally if peril catches and touch comes second, I was like, that's going to be the difference between like it was honestly flipped on.
00;19;56;05 - 00;19;58;26
Lockie
Its head, completely flipped on its head.
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Lleyton
I don't think anyone could predict that one. No, it was just up and down the whole race. You had that breakaway and then. Yeah, I thought it was game over. Yeah. And the contest as well. I was like, nobody convinced of. Yep. Game over. Yeah.
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Lockie
Literally. No. Nobody really.
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Lleyton
None of those two were winning. Yeah. That's it.
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Lockie
Yeah. Yeah. Nobody really knew and I think so in the end from that laser touch went from fourth to first. Yeah Leona Perry out went from fifth to second.
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Lleyton
And Potter was.
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Lockie
Up. Yeah. Potter went from, you know first to third. And then I think you had like a Jean Le here. I think she went from third to fifth. And I think Sandra by Grant went from tying first to seventh.
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Lleyton
That's crazy.
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Lockie
So just.
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Lleyton
Completely.
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Lockie
Completely flipped on its head. And you saw Beth Potter again.
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Lleyton
Yeah. She was those concerns for her after some serious concerns.
00;20;44;20 - 00;20;48;01
Lockie
Like she she was limp. Her body was just kind of limp at the end of that.
00;20;48;01 - 00;21;02;06
Lleyton
So was that race real windy? I believe it was. They change the swim. Yeah. And we said that that was a big factor. That wind off the top of the lighthouse coming in. And it's a pretty brutal course when you actually looked at it on the TV.
00;21;02;06 - 00;21;22;09
Lockie
When it's not exposed as well. Very, very hilly, very strong. It's a very strong person, cause you have to be an all rounder there. So, yeah. Like we saw Cassandra have an absolute flier in the swim, like she, I think led. Yeah, the first little pot. And then until the animal from, JB she then went around in front, but it just looked on from the side the whole time.
00;21;22;12 - 00;21;25;24
Lockie
Again, the fact that an Emma Jeffcoat miss that from past.
00;21;25;24 - 00;21;26;08
Lleyton
That front pack.
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Lockie
As a surf swimmer and a very strong cyclist like that just is a testament to those girls.
00;21;32;02 - 00;21;50;18
Lleyton
How hard that road. Oh yeah. But I think the change of the M shape really, determined those two breakaways that happened in the men in the women's. Yeah. Like so many turns, a quick get out speed. And that was the difference, really. I mean, if anyone knows swimming in open water, it's like cornering on a bike.
00;21;50;18 - 00;22;02;24
Lleyton
That Constantino effect, it just makes the gap so much bigger and so much harder to close, especially with that chop that was in the, in the brick wall, which was like, that's a fair bit of chop to get into the brick wall like that.
00;22;02;24 - 00;22;06;08
Lockie
And I think there was no more than, like 200m between.
00;22;06;11 - 00;22;06;20
Lleyton
You know.
00;22;06;21 - 00;22;07;21
Lockie
Like between each turn.
00;22;07;22 - 00;22;13;24
Lleyton
I 200 out. And then it was like that looked like ten, 15 across back in for the M shape. Yeah.
00;22;13;26 - 00;22;31;18
Lockie
It was basically just a lot of 200 meter and sprints. There's really only so much you can do in 200m between candy cane. Yeah. When you're trying to swim past like some of the best athletes in the world. So, yeah, that was just that was just crazy. Like, there was no one to push. Tosh looked very good, though.
00;22;31;20 - 00;22;40;17
Lleyton
Yeah. She did she she's been pretty dominant all year as well. And I think we kind of underestimated her and put in by Grant kind of came back into the mix.
00;22;40;17 - 00;22;45;18
Lockie
Yeah we see it was very easy to just go this is the Potter and Potter and Cassandra. Yeah.
00;22;45;19 - 00;22;59;00
Lleyton
Kind of showdown again like same as last year. Yeah. But it looks like in both races men and women that, the way that the trough on the actual race is raced is different from last year always.
00;22;59;00 - 00;23;03;00
Lockie
And we've said that it's aggressive. It's on like you can't.
00;23;03;03 - 00;23;07;19
Lleyton
So the swim feels it looks as if it's on more than what it has been.
00;23;07;19 - 00;23;24;09
Lockie
I'm starting to think we are getting again to that point and like, like we said, the golden era of the Brownlee's and like Javier Gomez is in like that, that sort of era feels like we're coming back to that, where the guys that are leading out of the water are also the guys with the strongest black legs and the strongest from weakest.
00;23;24;14 - 00;23;27;01
Lockie
Like, it's like you've you've seen it like.
00;23;27;03 - 00;23;28;09
Lleyton
Yeah. Oh yeah.
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Lockie
Yeah. So I and that for me is triathlon like that's, that's.
00;23;33;19 - 00;23;34;17
Lleyton
That's why I like.
00;23;34;17 - 00;23;50;06
Lockie
It's real triathlon like hard from the gun. We're not waiting for the chase back to catch up and then rolling around and like you know everyone looking at each other. It's hard from the gun. And that's what we saw here, literally to the point where you had number one and number two in the world just below DNF. And it.
00;23;50;06 - 00;24;02;13
Lleyton
Is. Yeah. Just so exciting. Yeah. See all was probably more came for this women's race. I didn't think that it would go that way. Yeah, but I thought the battle between those two was going to be the most impressive of the weekend.
00;24;02;13 - 00;24;06;19
Lockie
Sad that we didn't get to see it, but then we saw a completely different battle between turn and,
00;24;06;22 - 00;24;08;00
Lleyton
Perez the strongest.
00;24;08;01 - 00;24;08;21
Lockie
Yeah.
00;24;08;24 - 00;24;21;25
Lleyton
Of the year. They do throw a fair bit of shade at test, though. I did hear they don't lie. Who was that? Who said that? Was it the person that came second or third?
00;24;21;28 - 00;24;22;26
Lockie
I can't remember who it was.
00;24;22;26 - 00;24;32;12
Lleyton
Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, that's. Oh, God. Yeah. Yes. She goes. Oh, yeah, I don't mind. Third, because I actually had someone said that.
00;24;32;12 - 00;24;34;07
Lockie
Yeah. Whoever said but yeah.
00;24;34;07 - 00;24;35;18
Lleyton
That's kind of been oh.
00;24;35;18 - 00;25;00;09
Lockie
Yeah, I haven't really locked test I think, I think they said about, it was about Bianca, the Italian and Lisa, obviously Lisa touched the German, so they know very much like. Yeah, I'm happy with that because I actually rode hard. Yeah. In the race, I can't remember who, but, yeah, that is definitely a bit of, and again, like some people, some people are okay with that because I think Belinda great driver said, look, that's tactics racing.
00;25;00;09 - 00;25;13;25
Lockie
Racing is racing. And I agree with that. Like racing is racing. You got to do what you got to do. You got to play to your strengths. Exactly. The run is the run is laser strength. And and I think for I think for Bianco, she's not that great on the black. So you know.
00;25;13;25 - 00;25;15;18
Lleyton
Guys sitting on the side if you like.
00;25;15;22 - 00;25;22;05
Lockie
Exactly. So yeah again it is yeah it is tactics. But I would probably also be annoyed.
00;25;22;08 - 00;25;24;01
Lleyton
Okay. Onto the men's. Yeah.
00;25;24;02 - 00;25;24;12
Lockie
Yeah.
00;25;24;12 - 00;25;32;05
Lleyton
If that was chaos. This was cool as a cucumber Matt Hales are in control. That guy's he's too smooth.
00;25;32;07 - 00;25;41;16
Lockie
Honestly. Like the like the question has to be asked, is he the most complete triathlete in the world right now?
00;25;41;20 - 00;25;47;02
Lleyton
Right now, I think so. He let out the swim. He had the third quickest run.
00;25;47;06 - 00;25;48;08
Lockie
And he was strong on the front.
00;25;48;08 - 00;25;54;06
Lleyton
He was strong on the bike. We have seen how the Queen a couple times this year. Yeah, but not.
00;25;54;06 - 00;25;54;17
Lockie
Not to.
00;25;54;17 - 00;26;01;16
Lleyton
Drove that. And they drove it away from that pack and 50s and that's what they needed to end the run side at 50s.
00;26;01;16 - 00;26;14;06
Lockie
Yeah, a black pack that arguably had some of the strongest guys in the world, like you actually look at who was in that black pack. I thought, man, that's some power. Like they're going to really struggle to stay away, especially when it was only at some point like 22nd.
00;26;14;06 - 00;26;15;29
Lleyton
Yeah, start at 22nd gap.
00;26;15;29 - 00;26;30;03
Lockie
And it's not that much just blew out. And you can see them you can see them at 20s. So I thought it was going to come together. I thought it was going to come together about the third or fourth lap. That he just he's been it's two.
00;26;30;03 - 00;26;30;15
Lleyton
Dominant.
00;26;30;15 - 00;26;33;29
Lockie
Honestly is quite insane looking at.
00;26;34;00 - 00;26;35;27
Lleyton
The stats that he's had this year. Yeah.
00;26;35;27 - 00;26;58;09
Lockie
This is like, honestly what he's been able to do this year. We'll give you a quick rundown like of the Maddie how's the season. So he's raced seven times. He's right seven races this year. This year he's got six podiums. Four of them all wins. So he's got perfect school I think it's I think that was saying the first person ever to have a perfect score in a World Series before, which is insane.
00;26;58;09 - 00;27;13;02
Lockie
He won he won three races and then he won one, the grand final. So perfect score. The best score you can possibly get. He was top two out of the water in six of the seven races. He did. And he was top three in the run in five out of the seven races he did.
00;27;13;02 - 00;27;13;25
Lleyton
That's just dominance.
00;27;13;29 - 00;27;31;15
Lockie
That is straight. That is dominant right there. And like we spoke about most of these races were breakaway. So he's in that. He's in that breakaway pack drive train. Yeah. Even in races where it did come together. Yeah. He just was then able to run away. Like how do you beat someone this this is like screaming for me Alice to Brownlee where you're.
00;27;31;18 - 00;27;32;04
Lleyton
Dominant.
00;27;32;11 - 00;27;37;04
Lockie
Leading out of the water. But then you're also breaking away on the black. And then you're also running the fastest.
00;27;37;04 - 00;27;38;28
Lleyton
And running off the front of your pack.
00;27;39;04 - 00;27;42;20
Lockie
Where he had he beat that, like, I actually don't I don't.
00;27;42;20 - 00;27;54;09
Lleyton
Understand I don't know who's going to come in in the next couple years. I don't think Alex had them all coming in next year. If they come back. No, I don't think they're doing it. The the sport's changed like.
00;27;54;11 - 00;28;13;17
Lockie
Well you can't have like an Alex Hayden world. Like great cyclist and great run if they did get to house. But it's even like houses even asking the question if they're running now like yeah. In that very first race in Abu Dhabi has her and Hayden went toe to toe for I think like seven and a half of it.
00;28;13;18 - 00;28;15;20
Lleyton
And he's only going by a couple seconds.
00;28;15;20 - 00;28;22;16
Lockie
It wasn't that like it wasn't that. And if it's a breakaway like they're not running has it down anymore now like the he's too good.
00;28;22;24 - 00;28;34;10
Lleyton
But I think the consistency over the season his worst result was a seventh. Yeah. In Calvary. Yeah that's still phenomenal. He didn't need to go to Calvary.
00;28;34;11 - 00;28;48;25
Lockie
We even look at like his worst result is still better than Hayden and Alex. I know they're only race like 2 or 3 times this year, but it's still better than their best result. Yeah. And this is like again, we know that Hayden and Alex are focused on other things this year. And you know, that's beside the point.
00;28;48;25 - 00;28;57;07
Lockie
Credit where credit's due Maddie has or is just taken like they've all gone and decided to do this. Yeah. Houses decided to do this. Yeah. And he's fucking nailed it.
00;28;57;07 - 00;29;09;26
Lleyton
Yeah, exactly. I hope he can hold on for 2028. Because if this guy can keep on growing and building from where he is. Yeah. Into 2028, that's that's dangerous.
00;29;09;26 - 00;29;16;29
Lockie
We're going to say that sort of prime Ali Brownlee prime Vince Louis sort of just dominance.
00;29;16;29 - 00;29;20;13
Lleyton
Yeah I think so. I think over the next few years will be the has a show.
00;29;20;13 - 00;29;42;00
Lockie
And I hope so because like and like we've known Howes has been someone that I've watched race since he was like 15 years old. And I think anybody in Australia, especially anybody in Australia, New Zealand, anybody that's watched, has a race since he was, you know, that young kid like this, what he's done here, this was never a like him winning a world championships.
00;29;42;00 - 00;30;01;05
Lockie
It was never a matter of if but when, when like when his. How's it going to win a world championships when he's. How's I going to be able to get it together mentally physically to just perform in one year? I mean I don't like this is unexpected to to be this dominant. But for me has always been the guy that was going to be a world champion.
00;30;01;05 - 00;30;08;23
Lockie
He was always Australia's golden child. He was always like this product that was just a godsend from, you know, heaven because like, he's Harvey.
00;30;08;23 - 00;30;10;12
Lleyton
Back then, from Harvey, back.
00;30;10;19 - 00;30;20;20
Lockie
Then from the Bay. So, yeah. And on top of that, he's the first Australian man we've had win a World Series in 20 years. In 20 years. So he's broken a 20 year drought.
00;30;20;23 - 00;30;45;24
Lleyton
And we said it earlier and I think it came down to this World Championships. And you saw it at this world Championships was the I, I've lost the word. But it's like the hope, the hope for Australian triathlon is back in that spark. It feels like there's a spark that I think has is ignited that we, we kind of said at the start of the year, it feels like something's growing now.
00;30;45;24 - 00;31;04;07
Lleyton
Something's growing within Australia. And the sport in Australia is growing and growing. And I think houses started that and hopefully the rest of us, the next generation, follow, follow that path and I feel as if it's really good and as he said, he's kind of like put it on his shoulders and he's run with it. Yeah.
00;31;04;13 - 00;31;20;27
Lockie
And like exactly that. We've had some very, very dark times in trough on in Australia, especially where, you know, as soon as it was kind of like the Iron Royals and the Jake Bert whistles and those, those kind of caliber of athletes, you know, sort of moved on and you know, yeah, I'm a Moffat's in you and Jackson's.
00;31;20;27 - 00;31;38;20
Lockie
And that was a very much a lull for quite a while. And after Tokyo we've had Iron Row side, we've had quite a few people say Tokyo was the worst performance of Australian triathlon history at a, at an Olympics. And it was abysmal like it was. Yeah, it was terrible for an Australian Australian triathlon, which.
00;31;38;20 - 00;31;40;29
Lleyton
Is such a rich history of triathlon like.
00;31;41;06 - 00;31;55;02
Lockie
We've podium done. I think majority of the world in the sorry majority of the Olympic race is on the female side. So to just go into such a very, very dark time in Triathlon Australia was we was an embarrassing time.
00;31;55;05 - 00;31;55;12
Lleyton
You. Yeah.
00;31;55;16 - 00;32;15;24
Lockie
Yeah, exactly. We were laughed at. So, Yeah. Houses definitely been the, I guess like the, the torch holder, of the shining triathlon. Yeah. For the last couple years now. And, like you said, we've got a Rochelle Hill. We've got a Tarzan ski coming up, sort of. We've got plenty of junior strong juniors.
00;32;15;24 - 00;32;16;03
Lleyton
Yeah.
00;32;16;04 - 00;32;22;11
Lockie
So and I think that is, like you said, off the back of a maddy Houser carrying us for the last couple years.
00;32;22;11 - 00;32;24;02
Lleyton
Yeah. It's been impressive.
00;32;24;05 - 00;32;39;02
Lockie
Where do you think what do you think has a ranks among. We've like we said, we've had the golden era of triathlon like back in Australia in Australia. Where do you think Maddie has it? Cuz I don't want to say. I don't want to say in the whole of triathlon because has it still got a very long career left.
00;32;39;02 - 00;32;46;13
Lockie
And so yeah, he definitely hasn't done enough. Like you know, we see we see some Vincent Louis and we see some Alister Brownlee.
00;32;46;13 - 00;32;47;14
Lleyton
Consistency over the.
00;32;47;14 - 00;33;01;10
Lockie
Years. This is his first year where he's really been there. All right. So let's give him a couple more years and then we can ask the question then. Yeah. Yeah. But out of the Aussie. Great. So you got you Chris McComb actually Crawley's you know yeah Ashton twos. We've had our
00;33;01;12 - 00;33;03;05
Lleyton
Moffat's all the time is. Yeah.
00;33;03;05 - 00;33;08;06
Lockie
Oh yeah. Pick an ML any ML. What do you think has a stacks.
00;33;08;08 - 00;33;21;06
Lleyton
I think he's right up there with with all of them now because it's also a different generation where you needed that generational kind of hero. Yeah. And I feel as if he's the New Generations guy.
00;33;21;06 - 00;33;21;23
Lockie
Yeah.
00;33;21;26 - 00;33;41;00
Lleyton
He's you know, maybe we're a bit too close for age. Yeah. But he's like the little junior's guy. Yeah. And like, when, you know, we were coming off, it was. Yeah. Aaron Rose and those guys who were podium on takes, which gave us hype. Yeah. But houses the guys for this generation. I think he's right up up there.
00;33;41;01 - 00;33;48;09
Lleyton
I mean give him another couple years and the consistency. Yeah. Then I think he's one of Australia's great.
00;33;48;09 - 00;33;52;14
Lockie
It'll be a household name in the sport of Tron in in Australia.
00;33;52;17 - 00;34;00;21
Lleyton
And I think a guy like Houser can make triathlon in Australia a bit more mainstream. Yeah. Well he's like Aussie larrikin. Yeah, yeah.
00;34;00;26 - 00;34;01;07
Lockie
He's got.
00;34;01;07 - 00;34;03;22
Lleyton
Blond hair, blue eyes like. Yeah. Who can't like he.
00;34;03;22 - 00;34;05;16
Lockie
Yeah. He's got that yeah.
00;34;05;17 - 00;34;07;12
Lleyton
Bit of kind of Australian line I think.
00;34;07;14 - 00;34;16;07
Lockie
I think especially athletes in the sport of trough on have a bit of a stereotype of being that boring vanilla kind of just. Yeah. I eat, sleep and.
00;34;16;07 - 00;34;18;06
Lleyton
Try and try and. Yeah. Like the Norwegians. Yeah.
00;34;18;06 - 00;34;26;10
Lockie
Exactly. Which is, you know, that's fine. Like that's fine to be like that. But houses definitely got that personality where. Yeah. You know. Yes, I'm a triathlete, but I also do other things. Yeah.
00;34;26;10 - 00;34;37;03
Lleyton
A bit like transcend the sport more than, you know, hopefully others have in the past. I mean, Mako is kind of one of those guys who, who is very out there and he'll say things different.
00;34;37;03 - 00;34;47;06
Lockie
So say, say the first thing that comes to his head even I mean, even house in the in his interview post-race interview he goes mate. So my friends in the on the sideline, I can't wait to go out and be with them later.
00;34;47;06 - 00;34;48;27
Lleyton
Yeah, exactly. Great. I'll be here.
00;34;48;27 - 00;34;53;20
Lockie
Then. I'll be canceled like anywhere else. Any other country that would never be like, no, we're not having BS. Like, oh, that's.
00;34;53;26 - 00;34;57;04
Lleyton
Good, good. Trying to. Yeah. Like you got a cool down. You reckon he cool down?
00;34;57;04 - 00;35;00;05
Lockie
No. Straight to the BS. Like, are you kidding me. Like.
00;35;00;08 - 00;35;03;03
Lleyton
Head into the ice bucket of the champagne. Yeah.
00;35;03;06 - 00;35;21;15
Lockie
Like, let's not act like not every triathlete at that weekend wasn't at the afterparty. Like, at least houses, dare to say, like, yeah, I'm going to be there like, exactly every athlete there. Was it an afterparty? Everyone was drinking beers and vodka and probably doing God knows what else. Like like, yeah. Athletes celebrating an achievement. There's nothing wrong with that.
00;35;21;15 - 00;35;45;02
Lockie
And I think House is very much able to accept that. Speaking on the, success of Hauser. Like how like obviously has added to the success, but Australia as a whole, probably our most successful championships in quite a while across the board. Like like we had it here. We had Matt has a win in a late gold Rochelle he'll win the under 23 gold.
00;35;45;07 - 00;36;04;14
Lockie
We had Lauren Parker win gold. A new Francis win gold. Jack Grace Brimelow win silver. Oh. I don't get this wrong. Hannah McDougall. She won bronze. The power mixed relay won silver. Junior 923. Mixed relay. Won a bronze. Torres is in skating seventh and Oscar winning night.
00;36;04;15 - 00;36;06;18
Lleyton
Yeah. So that's our top ten results.
00;36;06;20 - 00;36;07;08
Lockie
Like.
00;36;07;10 - 00;36;15;19
Lleyton
And we also had a prime master in the 12th. Yeah. And all the other Aussie elite athletes went really well as well. So we can't we just can't list off it.
00;36;15;19 - 00;36;27;08
Lockie
Yeah I say we can go for it. Obviously we just we just stuck with the top ten there. But like when was the last time we'd been able to list that many athletes in a top ten? Like not.
00;36;27;08 - 00;36;29;03
Lleyton
Last year, not the year before.
00;36;29;04 - 00;36;31;07
Lockie
Moving just a podium. Yeah. Like we haven't.
00;36;31;08 - 00;36;31;25
Lleyton
For a while.
00;36;31;26 - 00;36;35;14
Lockie
We haven't had that many people be in a podium position before the.
00;36;35;14 - 00;36;44;02
Lleyton
Show who hadn't. Well, the under 23 win for a women's hadn't happened since I believe it was Charlotte McShane. Or was it?
00;36;44;08 - 00;36;45;28
Lockie
That was back in like 2010.
00;36;45;28 - 00;36;50;26
Lleyton
Yeah, it was about ten, 15, 15 years ago. Yeah. So like it's a long time.
00;36;50;27 - 00;37;01;17
Lockie
Yeah. It was really cool. I mean, I know, like, like, Oscar, we've definitely had some junior, junior world championships, like, obviously Maddie has. It was I think it was 2000. And so yeah.
00;37;01;18 - 00;37;03;03
Lleyton
You had more can get a similar thing.
00;37;03;03 - 00;37;23;10
Lockie
Was in 2019. So we've definitely had some juniors come up and set the standard. But like again, even to sort of across the board like we've got top ten results from elites to under 20 threes to juniors to power is like across the board. We're doing very good. Yeah. And we're looking at relays now under 20 threes Paris sorry.
00;37;23;10 - 00;37;31;11
Lockie
Under 20 threes. In juniors you go to bronze Paris you go to silver. And we can't forget the elites in Hamburg. You got the gold as well. Like we're back.
00;37;31;11 - 00;37;34;24
Lleyton
It's domination. We're back, we're back baby. Like that's.
00;37;34;24 - 00;37;42;28
Lockie
So. And like we've had tingles. We've had tingles? Yeah, we were tingling at the start of the year that this could be back. You were very. You were very honest.
00;37;42;28 - 00;37;43;25
Lleyton
Always very honest.
00;37;43;25 - 00;37;45;04
Lockie
And I was a bit optimistic.
00;37;45;04 - 00;38;03;19
Lleyton
You were a bit optimistic, but you feel as if it has to start with a bit of hope somewhere. Yeah. You got to have a bit of hope. We can't be in that negative kind of, like, you know, I was just. No, no, no, I know that. But like, let's just say the atmosphere of triathlon in Australia was a bit, you know.
00;38;03;20 - 00;38;24;05
Lleyton
Yeah. Dark at some time. It was kind of like, oh like this kind of shit. Yeah, blah, blah, blah blah, whatever else happens. But you have got to have a bit of hope that it's it's going to turn around. We have some great juniors and you see it juniors on 20 threes a late we have some great athletes and I feel as if there's always been this kind of stigma around the world of triathlon.
00;38;24;05 - 00;38;27;13
Lleyton
The Oceania is kind of a lesser race.
00;38;27;13 - 00;38;29;05
Lockie
We got we got left behind at some point.
00;38;29;05 - 00;38;47;02
Lleyton
Yeah. And yeah, that was a period that that happened. But I feel as if Oceania now is a place where it's developing great athletes. You look at a lot of the Kiwis as well. They had some very good results. Yeah. And it's all kind of coming together now. I feel as if that bit of hope is all that's needed.
00;38;47;03 - 00;38;55;28
Lockie
I feel like we had that like 20 years ago. We were super dominant. The Europeans caught up. Yeah. And then we kind of were left on the back foot a little bit. But we're starting to we're starting to creep.
00;38;55;28 - 00;38;57;02
Lleyton
Back just the start.
00;38;57;05 - 00;39;15;29
Lockie
And I mean like, what better way to reignite that flame than a home World Championships? Like a crowd like we saw. Yeah. Like what? There's nothing like that. That's it. Feels it. Like you said, it feels like the start of something very good. Like, I feel like we've reignited that flame.
00;39;15;29 - 00;39;23;05
Lleyton
Yeah. Especially with potentially that look of 2032 on the horizon. Exactly. That's not that far away now. No. Seven years.
00;39;23;05 - 00;39;42;12
Lockie
Yeah. We got three years to build in to land. Like obviously I think that's been the talk of the. Yeah I guess like the Australian performance is like let's get our systems in place right for 2028. So then we can perform at 2028. Oh like or more or less like see what works. Yeah. See what works and what doesn't work for 2028.
00;39;42;18 - 00;40;00;09
Lockie
And then from 2028 to 2032, that's when we just all systems go, yeah, that's what we have our systems in place. We have our product line like we are just chop wood, carry water for four years. Yeah. And we've got a of where, you know, gold, silver, bronze on every single podium. Yeah probably. No it happened. But like you know.
00;40;00;11 - 00;40;01;27
Lleyton
That's that's the goal. Yeah. Yeah.
00;40;01;27 - 00;40;14;12
Lockie
Everybody everybody wants to perform at a home Olympics so I like. Yeah. Got that. It's it's just it really is exciting. And I think I think we did just witness one of the greatest Australian triathlon performances in history across the board.
00;40;14;14 - 00;40;23;27
Lleyton
Yeah. I just hope it can really back up, back up and carry this momentum through. I think it does look like I haven't been on pool deck yet, but how is that? You see this morning?
00;40;23;27 - 00;40;44;06
Lockie
Yeah, even even, like, speaking to, like, a Jack Woodbury. Yeah. Unfortunately, he wasn't able to race in that junior race. Is speaking to him. He said, mate, I want to take over the world. Like after just seeing, watching the racing, watching the atmosphere, watching the hype. You just win, mate, I and I, I felt it too, like I think all of us were like, oh, maybe Monday morning I was like.
00;40;44;13 - 00;40;45;08
Lleyton
Let's get on my.
00;40;45;12 - 00;41;00;11
Lockie
Let's go. I just want to train. I just want to race. I just want to be professional and I just want, I want that, I want what Matt has just did I like I don't want to be Matt Houser, like, you know, I want to be Lochie Jones doing that. Like, and I'm sure there's 50 other athletes that felt the exact same thing just within Australia.
00;41;00;11 - 00;41;07;12
Lockie
Yeah. It was cool. Yeah, it really was. And like, yeah, like I mean, I think we can take some credit with the speech we gave him.
00;41;07;16 - 00;41;13;29
Lleyton
So yeah, of course it is. But we may we can't up that Wally world champs like no other.
00;41;13;29 - 00;41;17;01
Lockie
We singlehandedly just pump the tires up of everybody.
00;41;17;01 - 00;41;24;07
Lleyton
Guys. Let's go. But if that rev up speech from you wasn't there, I don't think now that has it wouldn't on that one.
00;41;24;09 - 00;41;26;29
Lockie
No I mean he even he even commented on it saying I heard voices.
00;41;27;02 - 00;41;32;09
Lleyton
In that Australia hotel that they played for every single race. No.
00;41;32;09 - 00;41;36;01
Lockie
G'day. Not So I got excited.
00;41;36;03 - 00;41;37;00
Lleyton
To that, that.
00;41;37;03 - 00;41;39;20
Lockie
That was pretty good. We played it on pool day a couple of times.
00;41;39;23 - 00;41;42;04
Lleyton
Yeah. The boys were trying to pull that week.
00;41;42;08 - 00;41;42;19
Lockie
It was the.
00;41;42;19 - 00;41;52;14
Lleyton
Wake of the World Champs. It was like the Tuesday and now. Oh, the mundane though. Going out on the fly now on Tuesday. Yeah. They played it on pool deck. It buckets just cringing.
00;41;52;16 - 00;41;53;27
Lockie
So it's like you know like.
00;41;54;04 - 00;41;56;08
Lleyton
If those two new boys were hyped up.
00;41;56;13 - 00;42;02;01
Lockie
If, if, if somebody else was saying those words and it was somebody, I'd be like, yeah, that's cool, because it was me saying it.
00;42;02;01 - 00;42;03;05
Lleyton
It was like, oh, it's.
00;42;03;05 - 00;42;25;06
Lockie
Tough to hear. Let's give it something that's good. But yeah, honestly, like we said trough on and Australia's just back to winning. It really is another highlight that we really want to, we really want to touch on is Sarah Perez Sala. I don't know if I said that name. Right. But the Spanish woman that she was a guide and she was a guide in the individual on the Friday.
00;42;25;09 - 00;42;31;13
Lockie
So she was a guide for one of the visually impaired athletes. They took the oh, I can't remember.
00;42;31;13 - 00;42;32;15
Lleyton
What they came.
00;42;32;15 - 00;42;37;08
Lockie
They want, they want. I can't remember how many she's won though. She's won out. She's won a few shots.
00;42;37;08 - 00;42;37;14
Lleyton
Dominant.
00;42;37;19 - 00;42;53;27
Lockie
Yeah she's dominant. So I think she won X amount of titles on the Friday. Then she went and got her maiden podium at two one in the T 100 on the Saturday. Yeah. So she went run got third in the 100 kilometer distance behind you Kate Wolff who's a freak.
00;42;53;27 - 00;42;54;03
Lleyton
Yeah.
00;42;54;03 - 00;43;01;21
Lockie
And and Ash Gentile who is an Aussie racing on home soil also a freak. So you just got third behind two of the best women.
00;43;01;21 - 00;43;04;03
Lleyton
She's the best person to do the double.
00;43;04;05 - 00;43;08;16
Lockie
The best person do the double. And then not just the double backed up the next day.
00;43;08;16 - 00;43;09;24
Lleyton
Did she race elite world champ?
00;43;09;26 - 00;43;14;06
Lockie
No no no. Backed up the next day. And did the power real life power relay the guide and the power relay?
00;43;14;06 - 00;43;15;27
Lleyton
Wow. So big weekend.
00;43;15;28 - 00;43;22;15
Lockie
Three three days of racing. So I think like yeah Sarah well done. Put your hands together.
00;43;22;15 - 00;43;23;11
Lleyton
You're impressive a.
00;43;23;11 - 00;43;47;08
Lockie
Team player like. And I think even, Belinda Granger actually touched on it in, when they were doing the two 100 broadcast and she said, it's really cool. Aaron Royal was also on the broadcast as well, and he and Royal is a guide for Sam Harding, Australian, visually impaired athlete. It's really cool seeing these professional athletes take the time out of their careers to go.
00;43;47;08 - 00;43;48;08
Lockie
Now I want to support.
00;43;48;09 - 00;43;48;27
Lleyton
Yeah, and give.
00;43;48;27 - 00;44;07;15
Lockie
Back and give back. And I think it's it's one a testament to the pro athletes that are taking that time to come and be a guide for the athletes. But it's like Belinda said, it's also a testament to the to the power athletes who are so good now. Yeah, but you can't you can't just have some age group.
00;44;07;17 - 00;44;18;04
Lockie
You need to have like Sam and Lee himself. Yeah, he's a phenomenal runner. Yeah. You need to have an elite pro athlete to be able to keep up with him on the run. Yeah, like we've seen Sam Harding have some gods before that.
00;44;18;10 - 00;44;19;13
Lleyton
And he's running away from them.
00;44;19;13 - 00;44;20;12
Lockie
He's running away from them.
00;44;20;12 - 00;44;22;17
Lleyton
They're making. The gods are making him slower. Yeah yeah.
00;44;22;17 - 00;44;38;15
Lockie
Yeah. So I think that's a really cool testament one. Yeah. Let to the pros bringing themselves back. And you know racing with the powers and you know taking time out of their own professional careers but also the power of athletes who are just getting better and better. The standard there is getting really good. So yeah. Well done.
00;44;38;15 - 00;44;46;22
Lockie
Well done. Sarah, that was really impressive. Really cool to say. Three days of racing. All righty. Let's do a bit of, hot takes. Have you got your hot takes written down?
00;44;46;23 - 00;44;52;23
Lleyton
I do, I do have more hot takes. I've kind of touched on a couple before. Yeah, yeah. That's right. But we can get into them.
00;44;52;25 - 00;45;06;27
Lockie
So we're going to go first one I just want, we just want to get, some rapid fire questions. I don't know what Leighton's answer is going to be for this. Feel free to have your own input and send in your own input. Question one.
00;45;07;04 - 00;45;10;09
Lleyton
Okay. The biggest surprise of the weekend will.
00;45;10;12 - 00;45;30;13
Lockie
Oh, go for you. Did you go did you go I saw I actually did two I did an individual performance. Okay. And I also did something that I took away from the event. So for me it was it was how big the crowds were. Yeah. That was cool. Like how big the crowds were and how, how oh, what's the word?
00;45;30;15 - 00;45;46;14
Lockie
How they go around like enthusiastic. Like we saw people on nearly every single race running with the ladies along the side path. We saw like that. I can't remember how many guys I saw with their shirts off, waving about wife in them. I mean, I think they copied like some of us boys from 2018, but like.
00;45;46;16 - 00;45;49;16
Lleyton
They didn't have a Louie on their stomach. But you've had Heather on their stuff.
00;45;49;17 - 00;45;58;03
Lockie
Exactly. Come on, boys, like, get a bit into it. Even so, boys are pulling their pants down and, like, showing their undies of the camera. Like, yeah, yeah, guys wearing one piece swimsuits, like.
00;45;58;03 - 00;45;59;22
Lleyton
Right next to the wall. Yeah.
00;45;59;22 - 00;46;19;17
Lockie
Just that really. The crowds really got into it. Really got into it. And then also for me, it was not not Maddie has a winning it because I picked him to win. But but him winning it by that much. Yeah. I think all year it's been like he's been having sprint finishes with Hidalgo or he's been having sprint finishes with Vasco.
00;46;19;17 - 00;46;23;29
Lockie
And I kind of thought it was going to come down to that. I thought it was going to be a really hard fought win for him.
00;46;23;29 - 00;46;24;14
Lleyton
Yeah.
00;46;24;16 - 00;46;30;12
Lockie
He want it easy. Easy, yeah. So that was that for me. It was not. Maddie has winning, but.
00;46;30;14 - 00;46;32;17
Lleyton
The way he the way he was. Yeah.
00;46;32;19 - 00;46;34;04
Lockie
Like he took a victory lap basically.
00;46;34;04 - 00;46;45;01
Lleyton
Yeah. My biggest surprise of the weekend was actually David Quintero in second. Yeah. Okay. For 2854 run. Yeah I think that has to be one of the quickest runs in triathlon.
00;46;45;01 - 00;46;45;17
Lockie
Especially on that.
00;46;45;17 - 00;46;57;10
Lleyton
Course. Yeah it's hilly. Course. It's got to be ten K I believe it was bang on ten k. I think that was impressive. Yeah. So David Quintero running up to second.
00;46;57;10 - 00;47;12;25
Lockie
He's scary. And I actually thought when, when we were saying the, the chases, the the Vasco Max dude. Yeah. And Kentaro, I thought, I think they pulled back 20s or something in a lap and a half. Yeah. Thought he was going to be careful. Like I thought.
00;47;12;25 - 00;47;14;08
Lleyton
That Adkins was.
00;47;14;08 - 00;47;17;03
Lockie
There. Gave him the 35.
00;47;17;06 - 00;47;27;16
Lleyton
Man that has just went. Yes. Yeah, yeah. There's that kind of coach relationship there. That's pretty cool. Yeah. Yeah okay. The most clutch performance. What have you going on. We've gone the same here.
00;47;27;17 - 00;47;28;11
Lockie
Have we lazy.
00;47;28;15 - 00;47;32;24
Lleyton
Lisa to like snatching that from the other girls. The last race of the season.
00;47;32;26 - 00;47;33;27
Lockie
If you're talking.
00;47;34;00 - 00;47;34;27
Lleyton
That is a clutch.
00;47;34;27 - 00;47;47;00
Lockie
Play. That is that is the definition of a clutch play. You go from fourth in the series to first in one race, and I think it's super cool when you see the winner of the race also win the title.
00;47;47;01 - 00;47;59;24
Lleyton
Yeah, I was actually speaking to my dad last night on the phone. He goes, it's a bit weird. He comes from like a footy background. Yeah. And you have obviously the, prelim champion. Yeah. Who wins the points?
00;47;59;24 - 00;48;00;10
Lockie
Yeah.
00;48;00;13 - 00;48;19;04
Lleyton
So then you have the actual grand final winner. Yeah. So he was confused, like like he said. But it's kind of confusing from an outsider looking in. Not that he's an outsider very much involved in it now. But you look at someone who may not have won that last race, which is the World Championships for all of the other races.
00;48;19;11 - 00;48;23;23
Lleyton
Then he becomes the world champion. Three points is a bit weird.
00;48;23;27 - 00;48;25;21
Lockie
And we and we had that discussion last week.
00;48;25;25 - 00;48;27;04
Lleyton
About like it the way it is.
00;48;27;04 - 00;48;41;17
Lockie
It shows exactly, exactly. So I think yeah, it's it's tricky because I do agree. Like last year Hayden Wilde won the grand final but Alex yeah won the World Series. Yeah. So that's where I understand it gets a little confusing there. So it was really good this time to see.
00;48;41;19 - 00;48;42;14
Lleyton
Both of those two.
00;48;42;15 - 00;48;57;20
Lockie
Yeah Lisa touched with like like we just said a clutch performance coming in and just like winning winning the grand final and then winning the World Series on top of that. And Maddie, how's it doing? The exact same thing. So yeah, I do. That is probably my one thing where it's like that.
00;48;57;20 - 00;48;59;28
Lleyton
Is it's a bit weird to understand.
00;49;00;02 - 00;49;18;17
Lockie
It's the one rebuttal that I have, my and both of our personal preference on wanting a series over a one day championship, because, again, like we said, like if Hayden Wilde, who had done or even and Alex. Yeah. Or anybody else who'd come out and was lost in it. Yeah. I'd be I'd be disappointed for the three boys that have been so consistent.
00;49;18;17 - 00;49;20;09
Lockie
Oh yeah. Yeah.
00;49;20;12 - 00;49;27;14
Lleyton
I definitely think, yeah. Genes and on 20 threes one day championship. Yeah. But we have a one day championship that comes around every four years.
00;49;27;19 - 00;49;28;10
Lockie
And that's the big one.
00;49;28;11 - 00;49;29;21
Lleyton
Yeah. Olympics.
00;49;29;23 - 00;49;31;20
Lockie
What was your best crowd moment?
00;49;31;23 - 00;49;33;19
Lleyton
I think you've got the exact same as me.
00;49;33;19 - 00;49;34;15
Lockie
How are we done? Yeah.
00;49;34;16 - 00;49;52;24
Lleyton
The Aussie singing the national anthem when the box broke, I mean that. So Australia and Bogan that the marks break. I know, but it was a cool moment to see everyone embracing. You know, Matt has, Australia like Australian triathlon, like the late age group. It's all standing there and just singing along and.
00;49;53;01 - 00;49;59;24
Lockie
I don't know, like so obviously at first the camera was at Houser and the podium when it panned around.
00;49;59;26 - 00;50;00;29
Lleyton
Was so many people.
00;50;01;05 - 00;50;19;10
Lockie
I honestly, I've never seen a sea of people like that at a presentation before. It was so cool. And then like, like like you just said the moxie and just that was probably one of the most. That was probably the only disappointing thing for me all weekend was we've just had Matty has a have this exceptional season.
00;50;19;10 - 00;50;22;11
Lleyton
Yeah, we want Matty has exactly what we want.
00;50;22;14 - 00;50;36;12
Lockie
We want like and especially the commentator we had, Pete Murray. Yeah. Would have been hyping the shit out of. Has an Aussie, like an Aussie icon himself. Like like him just hyping up Matty has, wins the world champ. Matty. He has a.
00;50;36;12 - 00;50;40;06
Lleyton
You are. Yeah. No no no man a world champion.
00;50;40;09 - 00;50;51;29
Lockie
And then everybody just screaming and cheering where like has I had to just get out there himself and yeah the. Yeah like having that we got it in the end with with the world Series win. But yeah, that was a little bit disappointing.
00;50;51;29 - 00;50;59;04
Lleyton
But it was cool to see how like the sport of triathlon especially brought everyone together. I thought that was the coolest.
00;50;59;04 - 00;51;04;26
Lockie
Thank God it was in Australia, because nobody would have known. The nobody would have known the anthem if it was somewhere else.
00;51;04;26 - 00;51;14;23
Lleyton
Yeah. It was like when Lisa first got up there for the World Championships. We were sitting and watching it together and we said, well, you said no one knows the German. Not yeah, yeah, yeah. Go on. Dongdong.
00;51;14;26 - 00;51;21;04
Lockie
Daniel Angus is there conducting it in the background. All righty. This would be my favorite question.
00;51;21;07 - 00;51;21;18
Lleyton
Okay.
00;51;21;21 - 00;51;26;08
Lockie
What's one athlete from, that you saw over the weekend you'd like to grab a beer with?
00;51;26;10 - 00;51;31;11
Lleyton
Well, I haven't put has on any other one, but I would have loved to be at that afterparty with him.
00;51;31;13 - 00;51;33;01
Lockie
I mean, I mean, obviously. Yeah.
00;51;33;01 - 00;51;39;02
Lleyton
Yeah, I think that would have been the best one. Because, like, we know a fair few of the Gold Coast boys. Yeah, we it just.
00;51;39;09 - 00;51;41;20
Lockie
Meant there was a lot of people that drove up there just for that, like.
00;51;41;24 - 00;51;43;25
Lleyton
Yeah, you just went there for that.
00;51;43;25 - 00;51;46;21
Lockie
You like you were there to watch the rain. I know you're.
00;51;46;21 - 00;51;51;16
Lleyton
There for the out. We know everyone of you from the gold diggers. You were there.
00;51;51;18 - 00;52;05;08
Lockie
I was actually talking to Sha Does and, we were both like, oh, should we? We should drive up there. And we were joking about driving out there. She's like, yeah, well, what do we leave like around like lunchtime, like on Sunday. And I'm like, we'll miss the race. We'll just get there for the afterparty. And she's like, yeah, that's fine.
00;52;05;09 - 00;52;06;28
Lleyton
Yeah.
00;52;07;00 - 00;52;07;27
Lockie
So you had Matty has a.
00;52;08;05 - 00;52;14;13
Lleyton
Yeah, that would have been fun with I mean yeah. Would they like pretty much all the people that way. You know, that's why,
00;52;14;15 - 00;52;31;02
Lockie
I actually had Vasco visa because I saw some of the, like, laid up, laid up videos and, like, some of the commentary and even, like, like him is a person. He seems like a funny bloke. I don't know too much about him. This is purely. Seems quirky. He seems pretty funny. Like, just a bit. Yeah, like quirky.
00;52;31;07 - 00;52;34;24
Lockie
Quirky. He's really good. Like, I don't know, somebody that you can muck around with. Yeah.
00;52;34;27 - 00;52;38;29
Lleyton
I'll have another one. I reckon it's going to be, Henry Graff. Hey, you'll feel.
00;52;38;29 - 00;52;39;17
Lockie
As if fun.
00;52;39;17 - 00;52;43;21
Lleyton
Big German could put away some steins. Oh, they say sometimes.
00;52;43;25 - 00;52;53;25
Lockie
Sometimes the bigger they are, the harder they fall. So he is like a seven foot John. But, yeah. Now he would be fun. I mean, just would be fun. He's also like 22.
00;52;53;25 - 00;53;02;01
Lleyton
And it's October Fest or something. Yeah, yeah, he's young as well. I think that's why it would be funny. Yeah. He wouldn't be too serious. You'd just be like I mean Australia, what the hell?
00;53;02;03 - 00;53;03;23
Lockie
Also, any of the Brits Brits are fun.
00;53;03;23 - 00;53;04;25
Lleyton
Yeah. Some fun, just.
00;53;04;25 - 00;53;06;27
Lockie
As long as we don't invite the Americans because they know that.
00;53;06;27 - 00;53;09;11
Lleyton
But who cares?
00;53;09;13 - 00;53;15;11
Lockie
Anybody's invited. Who do you think is going to be the next Aussie? What? Stop looking at my answers.
00;53;15;13 - 00;53;17;02
Lleyton
I've got a different one. Okay.
00;53;17;04 - 00;53;23;23
Lockie
Did you see the same one? Yeah. Who do you think's gonna be the next Aussie world champion? Next Australian to win a world championship.
00;53;23;26 - 00;53;25;29
Lleyton
A late world championships. I've got Rachelle Hill.
00;53;25;29 - 00;53;32;02
Lockie
Yeah. Look, that would have been like for me if I was if I wrote a serious answer, I probably would have written Rochelle Hill. Yeah.
00;53;32;04 - 00;53;42;19
Lleyton
Rochelle I just think what she's doing at the moment. Great. And if she can continue on that path, she could be like a Matt Houser in. Yeah, another couple years.
00;53;42;19 - 00;53;43;23
Lockie
It's a very easy.
00;53;43;26 - 00;53;45;22
Lleyton
For five years. I think she's up there.
00;53;45;22 - 00;53;51;23
Lockie
It's a very easy path to follow isn't it, from like, you know, on the 23 world champ. What do you go to next?
00;53;51;29 - 00;53;55;06
Lleyton
It exactly. There's only one other one half a step up and.
00;53;55;09 - 00;53;59;28
Lockie
Has ever won an out in 23 world champ. It was a junior world champ. Never quite cracked in 23.
00;54;00;04 - 00;54;01;05
Lleyton
What did he come there.
00;54;01;05 - 00;54;18;19
Lockie
Best one I think he got was third that I remember I was 20 oh 20, 21. Yeah. I was the layman at in Edmonton song. He went out hard song layman one and then it was the German blond hair voice.
00;54;18;21 - 00;54;21;25
Lleyton
A pop up of rice and Iron Man. Now isn't he.
00;54;21;28 - 00;54;33;21
Lockie
Done a German? German second. And then Maddie, how's has go? Third. So who do I think see me the next world champ? I think Maddie has is going to win it three more times. Probably. He's going to take out the world. He's going to be. He's going to go for pate.
00;54;33;21 - 00;54;34;23
Lleyton
For pate? Yeah.
00;54;34;24 - 00;54;41;28
Lockie
And then, year after that, I'll take the title. I'll give him one I. Okay. Yeah. So I'll take it in, I think. What is that?
00;54;41;29 - 00;54;45;13
Lleyton
You know, whenever you use fake stuff, it never works.
00;54;45;15 - 00;55;03;21
Lockie
So he's going to win it until 2028. And then I'll take 2029 off him. And then, I think Oscar Wooten okay. In 2030, I think after Oscar Wootton's, performance as a junior, like I said, like a top nine. Yeah. He ninth top ten Oscar Wooten is going to be our.
00;55;03;23 - 00;55;04;05
Lleyton
Next.
00;55;04;11 - 00;55;08;05
Lockie
Next hope. Like that's I think he and his dude.
00;55;08;07 - 00;55;10;16
Lleyton
Or I bro.
00;55;10;18 - 00;55;16;28
Lockie
I think, I think Oscar Wooten could be the, Yeah. What about next, guys? We've spoken about Jack Caldwell, and, looks a little bit.
00;55;16;29 - 00;55;17;23
Lleyton
Like he also does.
00;55;17;23 - 00;55;25;08
Lockie
He does. He's a little bit of a hat, like a little bit of, you know, got the solid jawline, got the blond hair, blue eyes, pretty boy. Yeah.
00;55;25;10 - 00;55;27;06
Lleyton
Yeah. Was Oscar star. There you are.
00;55;27;09 - 00;55;46;12
Lockie
There you are. Go. Let's go. Well, there you have it. That is our recap of, the golden era of Australian triathlon coming back. That is our recap of one of the greatest world championships that I think we've ever witnessed again. We are biased as Australians, but I think we've heard.
00;55;46;12 - 00;55;52;01
Lleyton
They've been too Australian centric. But yeah, I think we just cleaned up in that in that world, champ.
00;55;52;01 - 00;55;53;06
Lockie
I think we cleaned up, put.
00;55;53;06 - 00;55;54;10
Lleyton
On the show and cleaned up.
00;55;54;14 - 00;56;01;11
Lockie
The crowds were amazing. Like, honestly, I can't get over how big the crowds were. I can't get over how involved they were.
00;56;01;11 - 00;56;03;26
Lleyton
Like, yeah, the commentary was the pulmonary.
00;56;03;26 - 00;56;26;17
Lockie
I actually do want to take it. I think we've maybe like mentioned it briefly, throughout this episode, but I really do want to thank Belinda Granger and Will McCoy, like, brought greatness back to the sport of triathlon with that commentary. It really is just we've we've had Will on obviously super try. He's he's the commentator Superleague.
00;56;26;17 - 00;56;34;16
Lockie
And just the passion that both of them brought into the sport like it's it was nonstop to like you got to be really.
00;56;34;16 - 00;56;35;07
Lleyton
Really they.
00;56;35;07 - 00;56;52;04
Lockie
Weren't they didn't stop speaking. No, no. And that's great that like like some people was good. Yeah I think that's what you need. You can't have those pauses like it's a two hour race and it's a long time for you to keep talking. But like that's what we want. We don't want gaps. We want you to continually commentate on what is going on in front of you.
00;56;52;06 - 00;57;01;12
Lockie
Any little thing that happened and it stems from probably their super try experiences as commentators. But even if it's the smallest thing, they made it.
00;57;01;13 - 00;57;02;16
Lleyton
Make it exciting.
00;57;02;19 - 00;57;11;23
Lockie
Make it exciting. So, yeah, thank you. Because that that really did make everything. And we even saw we shared the video of Will Woodhouse.
00;57;11;26 - 00;57;12;20
Lleyton
Yeah. When he was gone.
00;57;12;21 - 00;57;31;21
Lockie
He was itching like he was literally couldn't sit still. He was like, tossing and turning right, like rolling on his chair back and forth. Just loved it. So, give them full time contracts for the next 30 years. Like that. That good. That is their gig. That is their job. They love it. Like, they clearly just love the sport and love everything about it.
00;57;31;21 - 00;57;37;12
Lockie
So, Yeah. Thank you very much, guys. Next episode we're going to be doing next week.
00;57;37;12 - 00;57;38;11
Lleyton
Yep. Next week.
00;57;38;11 - 00;57;39;18
Lockie
But leading into the next big one.
00;57;39;18 - 00;57;49;02
Lleyton
We had big on big one in Australia, especially the biggest triathlon festival in the world. It's one to go. Rice. Noosa triathlon. We'll both.
00;57;49;02 - 00;57;49;15
Lockie
Be there.
00;57;49;15 - 00;57;53;28
Lleyton
We will be. There will be on ground. We'll be on funded. We'll be on ground just for a couple things.
00;57;53;28 - 00;57;55;17
Lockie
The unfunded, we're doing some bits.
00;57;55;23 - 00;58;04;07
Lleyton
We're doing some things at the moment. Yeah, we're trying to grow. Thanks to everyone that got around like our kind of World Champs campaign. Yeah, that was pretty cool as well.
00;58;04;07 - 00;58;11;24
Lockie
We try it was our always our first crack at like making a bit of a campaign and being a bit of a storyteller about what was going on and like.
00;58;12;00 - 00;58;13;00
Lleyton
Trying to elevate this.
00;58;13;00 - 00;58;28;25
Lockie
Yeah, both of us loved it. Yeah. Well, we loved it. We loved getting around, like we said, we've said this from the start. We want to be the Athletes podcast. We want to talk on behalf of athletes. We want to, you know, say the things that some people might be afraid to say. We want to hype up the athletes that deserve to be a hot.
00;58;28;25 - 00;58;33;02
Lleyton
Topic, try and just grow the sport and the love of it and people's engagement.
00;58;33;02 - 00;58;46;12
Lockie
Of it. Exactly. We have a passion for the sport. We want to. We want to share that passion and we really want to. We want to just bring the sport up and be help it in the smallest way we possibly can. Like if even if we help it a little bit like that's we've helped it.
00;58;46;12 - 00;58;47;09
Lleyton
Better than nothing.
00;58;47;09 - 00;58;48;02
Lockie
It's better than nothing.
00;58;48;02 - 00;58;59;23
Lleyton
Yeah. Noosa will be up there doing a few things. So we'll preview that next week. Yeah. It's a massive race for Australia. And look we just had two world champs here. So I think there's some big dogs coming in.
00;58;59;23 - 00;59;20;29
Lockie
It could be some big dogs. Hopefully we can, we can report on that. More next week. Yep. All righty then. That is, the end of episode 29. The Wollongong Weekend recap. Once again, thank you very much to our sponsors, the official Beer Co. I'm feeling a little bit dizzy after that beer had hard vote in this morning, so,
00;59;21;02 - 00;59;36;18
Lockie
Yeah. Thank you very much for keeping the lights on in the, in the, the wheels turning. If you want to get in contact with us, we are on Instagram at the unfunded pod. Or you can send us an email at the front of the unfunded pod at gmail.com.
00;59;36;20 - 00;59;38;06
Lleyton
Cool. Thanks for listening. All right.
00;59;38;07 - 00;59;39;05
Lockie
Thank you very much for listening.
00;59;39;06 - 00;59;41;04
Lleyton
Running those numbers up, baby.
00;59;41;07 - 00;59;42;24
Lockie
Oh, yeah. Thousand followers.
00;59;42;24 - 00;59;44;21
Lleyton
Yeah. Thousand followers. That is huge. Yeah.
00;59;44;22 - 00;59;45;04
Lockie
Just want to.
00;59;45;04 - 00;59;46;28
Lleyton
Say that's all. We actually cracked the BS.
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Lockie
Yeah. That's how, that's our own little win from the weekend. I know we got some world champions and whatnot. You did the thing, but realistically, we we got a thousand followers. Thanks, to you guys, like.