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Welcome to Higher Ground, a potcast where real talk, bold stories, and intentional living take center stage.
Hosted by two unapologetically authentic women from different generations, this show explores the highs and lows of life through the lens of mental health, boundaries, business, self-discovery, and yes .. cannabis. But we’re not your stereotypical stoners. We’re here for the curious, the seasoned, and everyone in between who’s looking for deeper conversations, unexpected laughter, and a little perspective shift.
You’ll hear vulnerable moments, unfiltered truths, and insights from lived experience .. all wrapped in humor, healing, and a whole lot of heart.
Think of it as your favorite deep convo after hours... with better snacks.
Higher Ground: Higher Thinking. Higher Living 🎙️🌿✨
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Well, hello, listeners. Thank you for coming back. This is higher ground where we encourage higher thinking and higher learning.
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we have another guest in the studio today.
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Trisha Brown is a board certified nurse coach. And a certified cannabis, nurse. So, Trisha, welcome
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these
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guys over here. Yeah, it's my
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pleasure. So our
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listeners are going to be very curious as to, your cannabis origin
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or. Yeah, trying to read, I don't know.
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That's all right. I'll probably be all over the place myself. So
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my origin story can I start with like my first experience with
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cannabis? Yeah. I would love to read your last. So there's
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a huge gap from. Oh, I can't wait to hear it. Let's take it all the way back to 1885. What
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was the world like? I was
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13, I don't think I've ever been kissed before, you know.
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13. Yes,
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that I have an older
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sister. She's five years older and she was not along for this little trip out to the pines. So I'm from Wisconsin, a little town, in rural, I won't say the exact southwest Wisconsin. Anyway. 218 year old friends of my older sister marine took me out to the pines. And this is a little secluded area, and they had a little pipe and it was marijuana, and it was a little wooden metal pipe.
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I tried it, they said, just to do one hit, and that's all I tried. But I didn't smoke cigarets back then, so I probably just put it into my mouth and moved out. But they did say, you may not experience anything, it's your first time. And I did not. But just being with these 18 year old girls and being kind of a little mischievous was still a whole lot of fun.
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But
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it is a great story. I feel like a lot of cities can identify with that, because a lot of us get introduced to this because of our best friends or older siblings, or our own older siblings, because they were, you know, the gatekeeper there.
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How how did you
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feel in that experience where you anxious to try it or relax?
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Idea. Cool. Okay. You're gonna be
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cool. I love that to you.
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Yeah. To 18 year olds,
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it's a great motivation. Sometimes I,
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you know, I thought I was cool enough to hang out with them. I know,
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I'm just going to say, I think that's pretty cool. When I was 13, no 18 year old put it together with,
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yeah,
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it was a blast.
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Just an experience. It was exciting. I've always been a little adventurous, so but fast forward 30 years of no cannabis, so you
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just all so you never tried it again after
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all, you got no effects and you
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just thought, oh, that's not really a
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drug. Yeah, my dad worked for the police department. My
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first one, and we had science
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all over our house about drugs.
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Wow. And I was in that camp, and, you
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know, the deer sign, your deer contract.
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Oh, God. How can we get to that
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stuff like this? I love a good dancer
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because everybody's got him. Oh, yeah.
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I'm trying to think I did sign up in high school for the deer program.
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Yeah, and
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I had a little card. I was on the student council.
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I was an athlete, cross-country and track. But I got an underage drinking ticket when I was 15, so that kind of backfired, and it was a little embarrassing. I was, excluded from three cross-country events. So. Devastating.
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Yeah. So I was
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part of that, but that didn't work out. So well. But yeah, back to your question.
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I don't think I answered all the way. What safe did I,
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I don't know what is really
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the origin story. Let's
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go
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another couple of decades and I have a uncle who was a I think he's about 80 years old now and, camping he I tried it with a lake and it was windy and with your blankets over ourselves.
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My mother, she's currently 87. This was about ten years ago, and so I tried it down, and, Yeah, it just felt good. It was recreational use. Yeah. And, and
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so did you see, like, a medicinal, like or like when you tried it the second, like this time, right. Were you thinking, you know, you're a nurse in the nurse's brain.
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You thinking, wow, this could be this could be really good. Absolutely. Yeah, absolutely.
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It promoted rest and relaxation and joy and peace and just connecting with people.
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I recognize
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some of it at that time, but definitely it was. Yeah. Just, really community kind of feeling in our little circle and being outside in nature and next to the water and just.
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Yeah.
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So what
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knowledge did you have about cannabis before that experience
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had a whole hell of a lot really.
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No. The really probably wasn't much out there.
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I mean people weren't talking about it
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and the research was being done but it was all behind closed doors.
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I mean you can get on PubMed
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and check it out, but it was not something that
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was first and
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foremost, you have to actually go look
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for it.
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I so, fast forward again. I took the nurse culture group. So one reason how I stumbled upon that was it was I was a year into Covid, right? So there's a lot of nurse burnout, health care burnout, teachers, any first responder people just working with people in the service industry. It was very devastating for us.
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So, I stumbled upon the Nurse Culture Collective just through social media on Facebook, and I had an interview. And the founders of that are very, driven to help prevent and reverse disease.
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Yeah, that was very
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moving for me because I've been a nurse for 30 years and I've seen so many chronic diseases, which are also, a lot of it's lifestyle related.
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So our choices, some we can control, some we can't in the environment, but, so I took that certification as a board certification and, started my own little business, but I haven't really, I need you. And, I stumbled upon the container certificate program, so I took that last summer,
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and that's when
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I learned about the endocannabinoid system.
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And it really just blew my mind that we have this.
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Yeah. Body system
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that's really in control of all the others.
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Yes. Yeah, yeah. And no one talks about it. No one, no one talks by
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the textbook. Yeah.
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This association
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has recognized as a nursing specialty
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that's dancing I don't know
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what about this. And the and maybe they came up with us open standards of nursing practice.
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Wow. And I think
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by 2025 we will have a board certification for cannabis nursing too.
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That's amazing. Yeah.
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Wow. So how does
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that change the face so you don't look like the face of cannabis? When you're an athlete, you're a registered nurse. You've done 30 years in the nursing field. How does that credential system change the the viewers?
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Mind your perspective about cannabis. I
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think it has a lot of validity to cannabis as medicine, endorses for I believe it's still 23 years in a row, the most trusted profession. So I'm in the space because I'm passionate about helping people. And cannabis is really could be implemented into a healthy lifestyle, right? Use with intention and with purpose.
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People can be in a lot of benefit from it. So yeah, I think it gives some legitimacy to the, industry having a nurse consultant.
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Yeah, I would agree with that.
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And I think it gives consumers a place to go where the knowledge is trusted. Right. Because that's part of the problem we all talk about. Oh yeah, I look that up and I went down a rabbit hole.
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Right. But you don't really know if you can trust that information. So having somebody like nurses who have done the extra education to learn about it, to back it up, is actually really powerful
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things. I think it says a
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lot about what the future could bring, like what you hope to see in the future.
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Wow. Well, I, I would like to see it's, federally legal scheduled but regulated.
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And I think that the public we need to educate. So part of my role is to educate obviously on cannabinoid system, but with the right players too, because there are some people that are in the space just to earn a few extra dollars. Right. So not every product out there has been verified. And we you talk about CEOs.
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Fast forward to being out there. But yeah, I think, it's just really important to have the education and someone guiding you and to the safe consumption of cannabis, because there are some dangers involved. It also has a high safety profile.
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Yes. That is one of the things that we don't talk about a lot. Can you talk a little bit more about the safety profile?
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Yeah. So cannabis, it can be habit forming. It's not even excuse me if I have of it doesn't mean I meet the top ten list of addictive substances. It's behind caffeine.
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Cheese. Not even cheese. Cheese.
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I'm pretty sure cheese is more addictive. Some other pharmaceuticals
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that are legal, so.
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Wow. Yeah. It has.
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So there are some dangers obviously.
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Aging population. With, poly substance or not since polypharmacy. So the more medications you are, the more likely you could have a possible drug interaction. Cannabis can compete for the same liver enzymes. So medications.
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So what does that mean?
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So for instance, with blood thinners like Coumadin, it can actually increase, likelihood of bleeding or potentiate, drug effects.
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So you might need to have your INR level monitored work. Okay. Closely and work with your physician on that. It can be sedating because the central nervous system type of medications to also be enhanced. So
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how you can be. Yeah.
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Have some dangers with that. The other thing is it can, work on new opioid receptors.
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So like we know we have an opioid addiction. My message with all of that is usually you can cut back on some of those substances when you add cannabis, but you really do need to work with a nurse practitioner, a physician or nurse and not do it on your own.
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I can speak from the heart when I say get a medical professional to help you through that.
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When I decided I was no longer going to take any more tramadol in my life, I decided to do a cold turkey. And then I thought I just was super sick with the cold for like five days. No, I later found out I was in withdrawal.
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Yes, I had no idea. And
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this is naive. And 12 years ago I had no clue that was even going to happen.
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And I didn't even fully realize that I had gone through withdrawals until many years later when I started to get into this and I was like,
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oh,
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that was actually horrible.
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Oh yes, it
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is the right direction. I can say from my own experience with do consult a professional.
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Absolutely. Yeah, yeah. Your bartender's not going to be able to help you with that and to help guide you with proper
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self titration.
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There's stories of women or I shouldn't say women, but elderly people like candy bars obviously for three days because they didn't understand that you needed a break off. Just a little portion of that
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honey bar. Oh, yeah.
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Not from cannabis. You
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can't. But you will get the best nap
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of your life. Very expensive.
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Yes, I
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know we've got.
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So everybody's got so many stories. It's like I said, half, not three.
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I know, but it wasn't doing
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anything. And they were really good. No. So all day long it could
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take minutes to 90 minutes. Hours.
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You start to feel these things.
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And most people especially in our culture we're impatient.
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Let's get
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this going. So they pop more in and.
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Yeah it takes it's the edibles are wonderful as far as like how long the duration is. But they also said most problems with drug interactions. Yeah. So it's great for maybe sleep. Different dosing things going on with edibles. We talk about that a little bit later. Yeah.
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And and those of you who use recreationally that advice
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just because you
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can smoke a certain amount, that doesn't necessarily translate into how much you should have.
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Like I try and
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like if you're switching
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modalities like, you know, try it at home and try it at
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home, not on an airplane,
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I say PSA and
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use
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an airplane for me. For
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everybody. Yes. Right.
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But I think that that's like something really important. Can you speak a little bit about that? Like, why are they different?
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Why are they different. So yeah, the liver metabolism. Right. That's the biggest thing with again, your, consumption methods through the oral route. Right. Which there are several modalities and relative administration. So obviously inhaling through, combustion is how we first really started practicing recreational and spiritual cannabis. Yeah. But that can be really irritating to for some people with asthma.
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It can cause, chronic bronchitis and irritation.
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But there are new products out
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there, driver vaporizers that are less irritating. I believe widgets has a device
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that's actually
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endorsed by the American, Nurses Association, and it's a cooling type of.
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That's where it enters your lungs. Exactly. There's tinctures
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and that's under the tongue and
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that that is very quick, the onset like inhalation
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as well.
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And
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some of it will be swallowed individually but that's okay. But yeah that has about the same effects as like
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a tincture is what you put like under your tongue. You hold it for like about 60 70s. I
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seconds. Yeah. And they usually come in a dropper and. Yeah, they're, 2 to 3 hours inhalation, 3 to 4.
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But once again, there's is a lot of variety or range because our metabolisms are different and we're all unique. But so yeah, edibles can come in the form of gummies, cookies, chocolates many different. Yeah. And yeah. And
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now we've got the drinkable. Yes,
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yes. And, yeah. In Minnesota, that's what
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Wisconsin actually is crushing it because they don't have the minimum limits.
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Yeah. To
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yeah. Yeah. They were worried
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about their alcohol. So they just. Yeah. So yeah they're
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hold my hold my
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beer. We're going to we don't have a five milligram limit. So yeah. Be careful when you're in Wisconsin. They're not created equal.
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I'm
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in Milwaukee and I saw that many grown products.
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Oh yes I wasn't
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sure that they were even allowed there.
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Yeah this was back in July. And I was like,
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yeah, that's like one of the nice parts about Minnesota's low dose market is like doing this business here. You can pretty much sell your product. The whole nation is like you're way below what most other people are doing, right?
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Yeah. And you can really do
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business anywhere, right. That you saw how many
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and what do you say Milwaukee.
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Yeah. And I say I'm in the back. Yeah. Yeah. So transdermal patches.
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Yep. My that's what I swear for my son. It's a whole nother story. But yes. Yeah. Suppositories.
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He has taught me so much as all the different ways that you can consume. I had no idea I she's just a plethora of knowledge.
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But yeah those patches are
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yeah I do you watch you're not going to see out in the just
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you have to be
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in the hospital for that.
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But yeah every palette is available to us.
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Yeah that's pretty
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great. So you. Yeah.
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Yeah. All the exterior stuff when you're relaxing on a Friday evening. Yeah.
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So I prefer smoking. Yeah. Yeah. Driver vaporizer.
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You know I was really on.
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Yeah. You're in once about. Yeah. Let's keep keep on out there. You're volcano. Oh my gosh you are one man
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sold in Colorado.
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This is a few years back. And I, I love color any blue. I was in somebody's garage and they were like, hey, we should use the volcano. And I was like, what is even something? What do I know? And so they introduced me to this thing, and I've been obsessed with it ever since. I love it because, like, it is such a different experience because I don't really have asthma.
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Right. But I do have an autoimmune disease. Like, I try not to irritate anything because I'm just paranoid about getting sick. The volcano was amazing. I didn't have any caffeine. It was so smooth. Yeah. I've been I know, I know, we we need, you
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know, when, when we have one that will be an episode all on itself. Because I do have asthma
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to chat.
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How do you you.
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Oh, I just lost a great little social connector.
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I love it so much. Like
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this. Yeah.
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I'm, I have a
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vision board
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that's definitely going I mean
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2025 vision board right in the middle. I want a volcano because I feel like that's one of the best ways. Like because when you do it that way and it doesn't burn, you actually taste way more of the plant itself.
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And so I feel like that's one of
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the most like holistic ways to consume because you're you're tasting all of it. And to me, I really like growing taste buds for this. Like I actually like it when it's floral. Right.
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And all the different turbines.
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Yes. So much more. The
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ocean mean. Yeah.
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So I'm combusting
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it to get more of the medicine and the good flavors.
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Oh, that I had never thought of.
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Oh yeah. Today
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it's in there I
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love that. And I can tell you a little bit more about that. Like why is that
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about the chickens than ever. Yeah they do. Yeah. We
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burn them off. Oh yeah. Yeah.
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Yeah. So when you light it on fire
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and that's just also
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could be more harmful to your lungs combustion
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I think think about an orange.
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If you peel it and you eat it now what are you getting. You're getting the whole orange. And if you squeeze it or you bake it, you turn it into a cake or cookie, you're altering it and you're not going to get the same health, nutritional benefits. Same with cannabis things.
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I just
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food.
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Think about the beans.
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It's exactly what it
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is. If you're not getting the whole
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plant, you're actually not getting the whole plant.
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You know, I think
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I think that speaks to because you have to remember it's a
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plant. And you know what our food, our plants,
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you know we're not going to sit there and dissect
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a, you know a salad.
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And
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just talk about you know antioxidants from our berries.
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All
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this the same thing with the flower.
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Yeah. All these good things
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that are found in nature.
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Yeah. Just
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when you strip it you're creating a pharmaceutical an isolates. That's what is that. What we're used to is.
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Is that I'm going to talk
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about. So yeah like going back to history. And so when the fig prohibition was happening with cannabis and Henry and Seeger's department closed when alcohol prohibition was over, he's from the Federal Bureau of Narcotics.
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And I'm trying to think of the man that I work with. He was a big newspaper, guy, media guy at the time. But they're the ones who developed that whole me for madness thing.
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Oh, yeah, as well. But
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yeah. So also at that time, our, pharmaceutical industry could not synthesize cannabis. So
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we really think there was a
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push.
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There's a lot of social things
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going as well over
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that period of time as well. But yeah. So you get, a lot of our medicines are derived from plants,
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right. So all these
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we were using cannabis, from the 1850s us and it was on our, drug pharmacopeia 19 early 1940s, I believe. And, yeah, physicians were advocating a fork for it.
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And the American Medical
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Association was all about it. We had cannabis tinctures available. We used it for a host of ailments. Right. And with immigration, with our brown people from Mexico, African Americans, this whole campaign by Anslinger, it's her, Stanley. Hers. I'm sorry if I'm wrong. Yeah.
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Big media mogul.
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Yeah. They kind of worked together to really put Canada.
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They called it marijuana. Yeah, it was associated with Hispanic or Mexicans. Excuse me? Immigrants and, Yeah. And the reefer madness. Or was the actual movie I still haven't watched any of it. So many of us. This
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is the reefer madness. If anybody has seen, disjointed on Netflix.
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That's actually
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what the intro is, is snippets from that Reefer Madness.
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So you guys if you haven't seen Disjointed on Netflix you need to put it on your list. I still need oh my gosh it's so amazing. At the beginning it's bad for madness right. Stupid video. Yes.
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Yeah. Right now. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Basically like we couldn't make money off it. And our medical schools are funded by big pharma
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right.
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The textbooks
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I mean yeah we couldn't make money off it. So let's. And we were making an aspirin from Willow Bark. Did you tell us all these other medications from plants? But they couldn't quite figure out how to synthesize cannabis. So they had,
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so they lost the potential to make money.
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Yeah. Yes. You can make money and you know,
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it was used for centuries originally.
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A medicinal
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is really something that is really sad. If it doesn't make you money here in America it's not worth doing.
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So question
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for you with the prohibition of cannabis and kind of coming into the resurgence of it, how has that affected your career in nursing.
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Well it's like
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I feel like I, I'm happy
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because it's something that I can do. Right. I can help people with. So and I mean, I'm still employed at a major health institution in the Twin Cities and, our policy, as long as you are not impaired or under the influence, they should have no reason to drug test you.
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Just the same as alcohol. They treat or treat alcohol the same way. So, I would definitely. I'm not a target. I come for sure you
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take this very
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seriously, but as far as being a cannabis nurse, I think it opens up a lot of doorways to I can help dispensaries. I can help medical doctors. I'd like to collaborate and help people use some medicine and, get healthy.
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So I'm more about the health and wellness and the medicinal use of cannabis. So integrating into a healthy lifestyle
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I know I noticed your t shirt, can you talk about your t
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centers health and wellness? This is my little company, so I've been in the space just, over a year now. So we didn't quite I didn't answer that earlier, but yeah, new to the space, but not new to nursing.
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And, I cannabis can really help with, so many different, chronic diseases. We know right now, researchers are coming, coming out every day. And there's such a thing as clinical endocannabinoid deficiency. Migraines fall under that, IBS for fibromyalgia. Double check
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check check check check. You should see my. Did you just look at my chart?
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I'm sorry.
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Yeah. Keep going. There's still more.
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But, yeah, they can. So that we may not be producing or have enough density of receptors so that receive the medicine. I could get into that a little bit more. And also, we're not producing enough of our own and or cannabinoids. So there's plant vital cannabinoids. There's endocannabinoids which reproduce naturally in our body.
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And then there's synthetic or pharmaceutical grade or whatever. It could be out on the street to be sold. Our, our own endogenous cannabinoids that are more studied are anandamide into AG and the plant by vital cannabinoids that we know the most about right now are the that are the most research. The CBD and THC, is almost a direct mimic of our own anandamide, which is Sanskrit for the bliss molecule.
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And she creates that euphoria. But it's also wonderful for treating nausea, vomiting and pain.
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And
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that's one reason why I love cannabis is like, this is something that is actually could should be reviewed as a supplement.
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And it's just one thing in my
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toolbox, what I do with cancer, with central health and wellness. I'm not helping people by just saying, hey, here's some cannabis to help you.
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You really need to dig deep and realize, like, our bodies can heal themselves. But we're, slotting our cells with chemicals such as alcohol and tobacco are highly processed foods that we're consuming. It's damaging our gut brain connection, our serotonin that's healthy is produced in our gut. So, yeah, we have to take I want to help people empower them.
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I want to empower people, to make simple lifestyle adjustments.
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So really, for you, it's a lifestyle,
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right? So,
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not maybe just something for cannabis that you're talking about. Okay. What are you eating? What are you doing for movement? How long are you out in the sun? Right. So you're actually looking at the whole person's life
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as opposed to just one
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figment of their health?
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And I think that's worth commending.
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Exactly, because I think we need
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more of that in the space. Right? Because our bodies and our mind don't exist in two different plateaus. Everything is connected. And when you view a person's body that way, when you're trying to help them, it can be huge. Because most people, I don't think, ever get that experience in Western medicine.
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I just don't think
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it creates a lot of people that are trained in such
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a, in a different capacity. Whereas pharmaceuticals or medicine, like the traditional doctor, we go there, they're like, take this pill, but you can't take it for more than two years because of the extreme side of
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pain. You're back here in two
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years with the same, problem.
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Problem if not amplified now. Right. Exactly. Yeah, yeah.
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Take this. Well, and you got side effects. Oh, we got a pill for the side effects. We get a pill for another side effects and. Yeah.
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And then you don't when you meet with your physician and they do not ask about how your stress and stress is a big contributor to this.
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How are you sleeping?
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Eating? I mean, right now our diet is one of the biggest contributing, contributing factors to our health and, movement. Sleep, exercise, all of that is super important. Social connection, stress levels, and that's what I try to help people with, is cannabis has taught me about harmony and balance and, you know, connected. So it's just meeting people where they're at with.
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That's where the coach part of me comes in and helping them reverse and prevent chronic disease through simple lifestyle adjustments. So if you're somebody who drinks a lot of soda, what's something today you could do? Because most people know sodas not good for us, pop whatever you want to call
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it. And it's
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loaded with sugar and it needs ones.
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And you
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go like, yeah,
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literally. Yeah, exactly. I mean, yeah,
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you gotta. She's drinking her coke again. It's water. It's just ice water. Yeah.
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Well, first so I don't
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drink pop for probably a couple months at a time. In the last two weeks I have been on a Coke I had it. Yes, yes, yes. And I'm a Coke like you, not me.
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Unknown
Yeah, well,
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soda, soda pop, you know, all that stuff just literally shut your immune system off for one, one thing. We'll shut you immune system for eight hours for at least eight hours. And if you drink another one, then you got another eight hours. I mean, you literally the calcium gets shoved to the side and nothing gets absorbed, no nutrition.
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And you are vulnerable. And that's why I mean, that's
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that's why I feel extra vulnerable. Extra vulnerable. That's why.
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Yeah.
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And
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exposed. We're
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just but like our society really doesn't support health and wellness model.
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And it's just
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if you watch TV during the day to for instance like just on the morning shows, they bring in these awesome people, they're talking about their craft cocktails.
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Right. And restaurants and things like that. Children are sitting with their moms watching, and they're that's, you
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know, that's normal.
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Super Bowl ads highly processed foods and alcohol.
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That's one of the leading causes of cancer and
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death. Yeah
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I said if you can't
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do it you can't do it in a minute. In, in the United States and our food companies are older.
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Well the, the food I mean this, this started back in the 70s and yes. And I mean I
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yes channeling my
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grandfather because in the 70s, early 70s, he would go into the grocery store and pull food out of carts, you know, the little local, you know, grocery store, mom and pop store. And we would get called, can you come get Jake?
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He's killing our business because all of the processed foods and the TV dinners and all the,
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you know, just grab and go stuff,
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he's like, this is killing you. This is going to kill you. And he knew it back then, and he got
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into a lot of trouble.
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And, you know, we we had to go pick him up from the grocery store because he would stand there like on a soapbox saying, that's going to kill you.
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Unknown
This, this is not there's no food in here. Yeah. There's no there's no nutritional value.
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No way I grew up in the generation where my mom worked at home. Right, okay.
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Hit McDonald's. I had
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that, like, you can get, like, spinach and like, asparagus in a non frozen form. And I know this sounds ridiculous. I grew up in the burbs.
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Give me a break.
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Like. And my parents
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were gardeners. I had no idea. So I get out into the big bad world. My first farmers market, I was like, I went
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to so much better. I
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mean, yeah, I think I have like, I can really eat anything and my taste buds suck. And I think it's because, like, I never eat anything good.
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Yeah.
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My life, you know.
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Unknown
Yeah. I grew up with gardens in our backyard in northeast Minneapolis, my grandma and my great grandmother, they were about a block and a half away from each other, and their entire backyards were gardens. But again, we had like
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tomatoes and cucumbers. And that was like, oh, we
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had beets and we
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had everything.
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Corn that you could grow, other vegetables, cucumbers and tomatoes.
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The difference in generation, you know. Yeah, I talked about being a consumer and being that generation versus being of a different generation, where they truly had to figure their shit out and man, oh,
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everything. Yeah, I'm my oldest daughter's a chef, and everything that she cooks is from scratch.
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And it's beyond I mean, it has flavor. It has color. I mean, in our food. Yeah. Everywhere else, it's just like, oh, yeah, dump it in, add some and go. It's like, what
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is this? Any time
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she
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works at her. Yeah. Pickup
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kitchen in Bloomington. She's the executive chef. She created the menu
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and they have a breakfast.
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Unknown
Yes.
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That will make you want to call your mom. I'll
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be there.
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Yes. So, Tricia, you have
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to tell us if people want to connect
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with you, what's the best way to connect with you?
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Unknown
Yeah. So I have my website, Health and wellness and my emails. Trisha Brown at center is Health and wellness.com. That's a mouthful.
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It is a mouthful.
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That's a really long change. Yeah
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I remember that I, I only my
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I was guessing
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Trisha Brown and Instagram cannabis underscore nurse underscore tricia as well. Yeah
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memorized pretty and pressed that
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that's a mouthful once again
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I
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guess it's speaking back to the whole gardening and everything. And it's it's been tough for decades now where both parents are having to work.
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So there's the convenience of modern day living have been really helpful for us, but they've also been very harmful. Yeah, we're we're just connected to society than ever before. And that's why I love cannabis. It connects. Community.
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Yes.
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Connects people. I mean, I haven't met anybody in the cannabis space that you don't immediately kind of have a connection with.
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It's really.
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Yeah. Because you know, that they have a certain understanding.
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I felt that
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like we Aaron and I went to an event. You were there as well. And then normally, like in networking events, I would get a little anxious going into it. I would want to meet you,
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pick somebody in the corner and stalk them
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for for a year.
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Yes, yes,
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I corner and kind of
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like everybody's in it. But
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yes. But finally she said it's okay, it's okay. I just claimed her. Didn't she
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have to back in here? And Tracy's like,
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why? There's a story. Yes, there's a story. Yeah,
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yeah, but here
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we are. But it's true. Yeah. I mean,
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cannabis has its own community.
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Yeah, yeah, it's been great.
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Unknown
It's been very welcoming. And speaking of yapping, what are some of the questions that our users or our readers or
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listeners? Listeners? Stalkers. Yeah.
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Silver you identify add to this.
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What does
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the benefit is out there. So as
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what are they asking themselves and how does that translate in the service that your team offers?
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Right. Team offers relief from pain
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potentially insomnia,
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anxiety, managing symptoms related to M.S.. So basically I'm here to help you integrate cannabis into your life, whether you use it with intention or medicinal leave.
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Unknown
I've been a nurse for a long time, so I really care. I've seen so much chronic disease and like I said, our system set up really well to treat acute and emergency situations, not chronic disease. There's not enough effort put into prevention. We don't have all those wonderful little. The more you know things that I grew up with.
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Right. We're not sharing
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statistics about how it is important to eat a predominantly plant based diet. And I working with me, that's not what I'm pushing. I'm helping you just slowly integrate, adjustable and realistic modifiable lifestyle changes. So from when outside, there's a lot of free things you can do to get healthy. And just walking outside, drinking more water, you need that.
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So that answer your question.
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Yes, Roxy. Yeah, absolutely I love it. It doesn't have to be
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complicated. And you know what you need to do. So I take time to educate, but really, I'm empowering you to make those healthy choices yourself because most people know what they need to do.
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Unknown
Right. And I was going to say we kind of know, but we're we tend to be lost.
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And the other thing to going back to something you mentioned earlier, we don't always have a good support system. Our families don't always support us. You know, be it a parent, a spouse or family, children and whatever your family dynamics are, you don't always have that support. And so just getting that validation from someone else
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could be really important.
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You meet your goals
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way and I am available for 30 days of follow up to through text and email conversation. In addition to that, I also take to. So it's
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amazing. Yeah, that is a really service,
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you know, because once you
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start down this path, you do start having questions.
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It's like, why do I feel so good?
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How do I keep this
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can't be feeling?
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And I'm sure there's going to be, like you said, more and more questions and things that yeah, it's you're unlimited really and what everybody needs to know. So it's a lot to do in my my consultation a lot of cover.
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Wow. What's the one
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piece of advice that you would give to somebody that wants to work with you?
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One piece of advice.
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Or like a really cannabis, like a beginner cannabis user?
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Unknown
Okay, well, first of all, I hit that on a couple different notes, I guess. So
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don't lie. Your cannabis
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gas station. Oh,
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well, I have an idea. Why don't
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you just
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email like 7799
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with
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poison in
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those pesky little kids? I kind of want
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to get away with it.
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Somebody who's has, complex medical conditions. You really should be talking to a cannabis nurse, and your doctor should give you their blessing as well. And doctors need to be informed. So I'm happy to talk and be that, liaison. Oh. For you and. Yeah. Absolutely. Are you? But
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I'm by the state borders.
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I am, but I do have a health coach contract that covers me.
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Unknown
So in Minnesota, I'd be, homeless or outside of Minnesota, holistic coach inside Minnesota walls. I'm a certified nurse coach. So the contract for both the systems slight
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depending on where you should
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actually is. Yes. Okay. Unfortunately we do not have a contact person license in Minnesota, but it really does not limit me. Oh
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well that's good too.
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Unknown
Yeah. Just different. Different NPI
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numbers. Yeah, exactly.
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What other advice? Let's see. Yeah. I think, for the cannabis naive, you should talk to somebody that has some background knowledge. And that's. I mean, I'm going to take the time with you. I've been a nurse for a long time, so, you know, I want to help people.
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Unknown
You're not saying it should be your
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16 year old child. I know.
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I don't I don't
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ask your kids. I'm a
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doctor. You can talk to me. Yeah, we can talk about everything from, reproductive health, sex, relationships, you name it. It can go on and on. I think cannabis has such a wide range of therapeutic value.
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Unknown
So, you
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know. It's not that I do
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have to do a lot about groundwork, because research is coming out every day.
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And I do use Carnegie's as a resource, which has a lot of how many articles, the good and the bad. Sometimes
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I just find I have to know both sides of the equation
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and what you do. Yeah, because we
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are not all created equal. That's right. Like we were. You know, I'm talking about that too.
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It's just like and in us
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females have different biology than most of the PubMed articles have researched about.
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That is the hard
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part. But I do believe that it's going to start getting better.
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Yeah I do, I
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think that we're going to start somebody is going to start
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and we're going to start. Oh, was happening.
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It's happening and it's happening
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kind of all over the world too. I mean, a lot of other countries are doing more research than we are just
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because they reschedule.
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It shouldn't be a schedule one. I
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need to be. Yeah. Off the
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schedule three. But in reality, kind of what you were saying needs to be regulated. Like I think it needs to be.
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Maybe something slightly above that you know. But like
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it doesn't need to be what it is now
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because people can't test it. It's so hard to get funding for that kind of stuff.
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Right. And really what do we want to know how it
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works backwards. It
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drives another thing to a lot
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of the research or the in the media is missing so much information. When you hear a negative story,
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always you don't talk about
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where did it come from,
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what even the root of
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administration. No. There's so much or
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contamination.
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Unknown
Yeah.
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Unknown
Yeah. So yeah the another thing too as far as like consumers or check it out, there's so different certificate of analysis or CoA. And if it doesn't have that that's a red flag too. Yeah. Product should have a ledger. Because it tests it. They should be tested for lead heavy metal or mercury cadmium pesticides, things like that.
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Mold. Yes. Immunocompromised people. I would be a higher risk category.
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And there's so much data on those CoA that if you're just a consumer out in the world and you snap a QR code and you pull that bad boy up, you kind of glaze over like it's a lot to take in. So if you have a professional there, it's
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very scientific.
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That is
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amazing. Just just for the very sense of learning how to read CoA because it is just lab results. There's nothing it doesn't explain to you what any of the stuff in the product actually does. It literally is just a scientific Excel sheet, right? Like, yeah, if you don't know what it says, it's boring.
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Unknown
But I still look at them all the time.
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Unknown
I love
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them, I. Well,
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Unknown
I have one last question for you. Could you tell us the success story that you've had that really sticks out in your mind? Okay, just one.
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Unknown
No, I'm just kidding. Tell us all. I would say my mother actually.
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Unknown
Really? Yeah. She's survived
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cancer twice, so she just turned 87 in September.
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Unknown
So I'm going to tell you the good and the bad, and I'll try not to be too lengthy. So before I was certified, she experienced a ten milligram edible with me. So this was she was, I believe, 81, 82 years old. That's way too much for somebody of that age. Ten milligrams is a lot. So I didn't know about starting low and going slow.
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Unknown
That was just a common dosage. I think I got it from the West Coast, Seattle. I brought it back and she had palpitations.
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I was super
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anxious. Yeah. And, Yeah, she felt woozy and dizzy, and she's an elderly lady. But anyway, I walked her from the seat that that we were at, and I sat with her.
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Unknown
And that's really what you do when someone's having a bad. I don't want to say trip, but a bad experience got her water. And like I said, I didn't have the knowledge. But I do now. We sat together, I would say 15, 20 minutes. That's the palpitations. Everything had subsided. Within an hour she was asking for champagne and I was, oh
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girl.
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Unknown
Yes.
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Unknown
So anyway, I said you needed a wait, mom, you need to wait on the champagne. And probably within a couple hours, she did have some and she tolerated it very well. But even even sold that edible still in her system for
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Unknown
8 to 10 hours.
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Unknown
And so you don't want to add alcohol on top of that.
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Unknown
But she tolerated it very well. Okay. Fast forward to just a couple of years ago. She was diagnosed with ovarian cancer. She used a tincture. And about the it was less than 0.3%, but it was a full spectrum tincture.
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Unknown
Yeah. So
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Unknown
CBD, maybe some CBD.
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Unknown
Can I ask if she was using for pain? Management? She
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Unknown
was more, kind of a combination of pain and a little bit of the cancer fighting properties.
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Unknown
And, Yeah, this has we didn't get to all the wonderful things. It's endless. Yeah,
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Unknown
endless. So many questions.
00;43;16;06 - 00;43;24;06
Unknown
Real protective and helps. With longevity, aging and, Yeah, rest and relaxation response. Right.
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Unknown
Yeah. So engages your
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Unknown
parasympathetic nervous system. Let's get around in and autonomic. We're all stressed all the time. She's coming back and we're going to talk about
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Unknown
the cancer properties, because I know I have a lot of questions about that.
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Unknown
And I love the idea of you being a trusted source there. So just everybody knows we got one more for you.
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Unknown
So my mom survives. Yeah. So by the way, and she tolerates low dose cannabis tinctures and she does have a I used retro bakery.
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Unknown
Yeah.
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Unknown
3.5mg.
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Unknown
Yeah. Perfect. I've seen
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her anxiety level.
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Unknown
Let's, let's see if you're just chill out. I have a video of her when she was a nighttime a pain. This was for, for severe peripheral vascular disease. She had black and told she thought she's
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Unknown
going to lose your toes. She didn't
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Unknown
lose your toes. You there.
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Unknown
Wow. Wow. So
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Unknown
yeah, it was awful. But anyway, she tolerated, the tincture within 15 minutes.
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Unknown
Sorry. She went from a 9 to 10 to a 0 to 1 patch.
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Unknown
Amazing. That's the power.
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Unknown
It is very powerful.
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Unknown
Yeah. Yes. Beautiful. It's been so
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Unknown
great having you here I feel like I've learned a lot I appreciate
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Unknown
thanks. Thank you. Go on.
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Unknown
Couldn't we go. But we were
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sadly I want
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to be where Roxy is right now.
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Unknown
Yeah. I was trying
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Unknown
so we used to do this thing
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in my world where we did the 0 to 10 scale. Like how high are you. Yeah. So I'm going to start implementing this. Yes I think that's
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Unknown
a good idea. We need to we need to have the little. We'll have a like a little. Yeah I learned
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Unknown
the 0 to 10.
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Unknown
Where are you at?
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Unknown
Oh man. I'm put on the spot. I'm not good on the spot.
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Unknown
Oh. You can just give us a number. That's the highest we've ever been. Or
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the worst I've ever been. And what number resonates?
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Unknown
Well, we're definitely not a what.
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Unknown
We're not a
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ten. We're somewhere between. Well,
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Unknown
there we go. 219.
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Unknown
I was just,
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I what I was going to say a 5 or 6.
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Unknown
Yeah. I was thinking she's getting closer to
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Unknown
four. I was gonna say like a three and four. Yeah. She's,
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she's she's. Yes. That's good. Yeah.
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Unknown
You bring up a good point
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though. Two two. You should journal your experience. Yes.
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Unknown
Speaking of a journal,
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Unknown
I know somebody who created a fabulous journal. It's on Amazon. Yes.
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Unknown
About you know, when my husband was in a really bad car accident, I was dozing in, and I was writing everything down, to
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do that.
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Unknown
Yeah. So I created a journal
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Unknown
so that people can do this. You can learn what springs you like. Yeah. You can figure out when two things resonate with you time of day, people you're doing
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Unknown
it with. Because it's important
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Unknown
to know that you can't. It's hard when you're on this journey by yourself. Like I was right. You have to have come up with stuff to set so that you don't slip backwards because you might go, oh, I don't know what that was, but it was last Tuesday and it was
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Unknown
great.
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Unknown
But if you have a journal, you can
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Unknown
actually go back and go, oh yes, that's right. That was the one, I liked it. I took five milligrams. That's what I want to repeat their feelings. Yep. But yeah she has. Yeah.
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Unknown
She's got a great being autonomous even though was your husband. They did.
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Unknown
Yeah. And then you
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Unknown
took control.
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Unknown
But yeah that's really important is to document your experience before and after that strange super
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Unknown
campers and learn a lot.
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Unknown
Yeah. Yeah I feel like we
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Unknown
just had a of good vibe. We.
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Unknown
So did we do this? We did.
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Unknown
We're doing all that.
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Unknown
Okay, you know what we're
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asking everybody. So see
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you next. Two to woo foreign. Thank
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you.
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Unknown
Thanks for having me.
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Unknown
Let's see where we can be
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a lot of fun.
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can.