Popcorn & Plot Holes

Rest in peace, king.

Creators & Guests

Host
Chris
Host
Luciano
Life is like a baboon's ass: colorful and full of shit...

What is Popcorn & Plot Holes?

Movies are fun! Movies are awesome! But movies can sometimes be very, very weird... or just plain terrible. In this intersection of fun, awesome, weird and terrible is where Matt, Luciano, Chris and Spencer live and thrive. They'll be watching the latest FACTS (Fantasy, Action, Comic, Thriller, Sci-Fi) movies available on streaming services and sharing their equally awesome, fun, weird and terrible thoughts on them. Welcome to Popcorn & Plot Holes!

Chris (00:00.898)
Welcome to popcorn and plot holes. After the what? Yes, this is what's happening. I have I have assumed control the

Luciano (00:03.476)
Wait, wait, what's happening?

Luciano (00:09.366)
Well, you've assumed control because we were abandoned by our so -called friends.

Chris (00:15.17)
Well, you could call it that, but I mean, no one said we had to put our business in the streets like that. I mean, we're trying to maintain the consistency. No, we're not. Okay. So the voices that you are hearing, you should know very, very well by now. We have Mr. Luciano.

Luciano (00:21.174)
But, I mean, we are.

Luciano (00:34.102)
Yeah, I am here. At least two of us are. Yeah.

Chris (00:35.778)
And I am up to someone had to be here and, and, and, you know, I think, I think we're, we're going to share the, the, the, the hope, the hosting reigns. But yes, I, I, it is I, Chris, um, also known as anti Spencer, anti Matt. Uh, I don't mean it. I don't mean it. I don't even mean it politically. I just mean from an energy standpoint.

Luciano (00:54.746)
Wow! Firing across the bow!

Luciano (01:04.022)
Uh, yeah, that's fair. I would say at least, you know, your introduction didn't sound like you wished for death, which is what happens usually with mad.

Chris (01:14.978)
The sweet release of death. How did we get here? We're supposed to be, this is perfect timing based on our plan for this shorts edition. There's nothing we can't do and well at that. So yeah, we were trying to figure out what to call this version of the podcast when we're gonna take on something a bit more bite -sized and we are throwing things around like after the credits.

Luciano (01:16.758)
Yeah.

Luciano (01:25.334)
We're professionals here, we're segueing.

Chris (01:44.872)
Stingers. What else did we think of? Behind the scenes, extra credit, bloopers, gaffs.

Luciano (01:46.996)
behind the scenes, bloopers, extra credits. Yeah. We're going to land on one at some point, and that's what's going to happen.

Chris (01:56.386)
or maybe we'll land on all of them because we could do whatever we want. And well, you know, like we've got the rain so they can't stop us. And so yeah, we're here today to segue, I guess. We're here today to talk a little bit about one of the greats that we recently just lost, that being Mr. Carl Weathers. Yeah, that was sudden and yeah, like being...

Luciano (01:59.414)
That is the longest title.

Luciano (02:17.11)
Yeah. RIP.

Chris (02:25.634)
being movie lovers, we most definitely wanna see what we just wanna bounce off of each other and reflect on some of his most, or I guess the most memorable roles for us personally, because this is our damn podcast. I mean, like not everybody's gonna like Predator, but we can say whatever we want. So, dang.

Luciano (02:44.374)
Yeah. And no, it's, I thought, you know, we were, we were planning on skipping this week because, you life happens, but I think, you know, it's, it's a good opportunity to, to play, to play, you know, to pay some homage to, to the men and, you know, listeners of our other podcasts will remember that when you and I were abandoned at some other occasion by our so -called friends, we did a review.

Chris (02:57.506)
Yeah.

Chris (03:11.074)
It's a theme!

Luciano (03:12.414)
Yeah, we did a review of Predator. And yeah, and also it's, you know, the most one of the most famous gifts in on the internet, right? You know, especially now with him passing away. And I think, you know, for me, that's I don't know if it's my favorite of his performances.

Chris (03:14.722)
We did and enjoyed every minute of it, dang it.

Chris (03:24.738)
Yeah.

Yeah, the double.

Chris (03:37.09)
You're saying you don't know if Predator is your favorite? Oh, so if not him, then who? Whom? Okay. Oh.

Luciano (03:38.976)
Yeah, I don't know if Dylan is my favorite character of his, but it is. I'll get to it, but I think it's the most iconic one just because of how iconic Predator is and how everything that Arnie is in is memeable, right? But that one scene of the of the hand clap is his meme royalty, right? So I think my favorite character of his is Apollo Creed.

Chris (03:54.882)
Uh -huh.

Yeah, the hant. True. True. Oh.

Okay, well worth it. I mean, epic tier for the culture, for cinema.

Luciano (04:09.054)
Yeah.

It has a character arc, right? It starts as an adversary, as an enemy of Rocky and ends up a friend and then ends up murdered by Ivan Drago. Yeah, but that's not, you know, we've watched fucking TV series with like 10 seasons that don't have that much of a character arc. So, yeah.

Chris (04:16.736)
Yeah.

Chris (04:25.058)
Oh my god.

Chris (04:37.186)
True, true. I'm trying to think of who I want to throw shots at. Nothing comes to mind except for Friends. Okay, okay. And I don't watch Friends, but I just wanted to throw shots at someone who has, at a show that has less development than the Ark of One Apollo Creed.

Luciano (04:53.046)
Just pick anything on like cable TV Yeah

Chris (04:57.442)
I suppose he had a TV series too, which I forgot that I used to watch when I was growing up Street Justice and it received yeah him. He played like a Vietnam vet of sorts and and then found his way back to a child that that he first the group that the child version he first met in a missionary. Well, he was like just touring and stuff. And then the show takes place with that kid who grows up.

Luciano (05:03.894)
I never watched that.

Chris (05:27.234)
and they cross paths and they're both detectives. So like, holy moly. So that dot I did not even realize was being reconnected when I was looking over his resume to kind of just like, yeah, point blank, reconnect and get some dots, throw them back up.

Luciano (05:29.214)
Oh!

Luciano (05:44.374)
Yeah, it was interesting because at least for me, like we are all, all four of us are pretty big like action movie fans, given our facts, focus, the AB in action. And I think we're, I can safely say that we're all pretty big 80s action fans, right? Like the old like blockbuster.

Chris (05:56.482)
Yeah.

Mm -hmm. Mm.

Chris (06:06.004)
Yes.

Luciano (06:11.996)
completely nonsensical action movies that we're like, I don't care if this makes sense. It's just awesome, right? Back when we weren't grumpy old farts like we are now.

Chris (06:12.192)
Yeah.

Chris (06:17.728)
Yeah.

Chris (06:21.89)
Well, speak for yourself. I'm trying to maintain, man. I'm trying to maintain. Yes. Yes. Now you've reached the new tier of enlightenment.

Luciano (06:24.15)
Oh, you were always a grumpy old fart? Is that what you were saying? Fair enough.

Luciano (06:33.054)
Yeah. But, and he like Carl Weathers was in a few, like back then he was like, he was never really like, it wasn't like a sly Stallone or like an earnest schreiznäger, but he was pretty, like you would see him, you know, in cameos or in like smaller roles all the time, but then he kind of disappeared. At least for me.

Chris (06:47.04)
Yeah.

Chris (06:55.99)
Hmm, until. Oh, yeah. When did he when do you remember? Do you know when he disappeared? Not disappear, but when he kind of wasn't on your radar so much like what was the last thing you saw before he came back? OK.

Luciano (07:04.214)
after after Ivan Drago kills him. Yeah. And then, but this is because and this is weird because I had never watched Arrested Development when it first was out. But then when when the whole thing was on Netflix, I was like, OK, now I'm going to binge watch the whole the whole thing. And I did like during the pandemic. I was like, the fuck is Apollo Creed doing that? So that was that was a weird sort of. Wait.

Chris (07:16.32)
Yeah.

Yeah.

Chris (07:25.57)
Right.

Chris (07:29.154)
Ha ha ha ha.

Luciano (07:33.686)
What? In his play himself? And doing like acting? Like mentorship? What the fuck is going on?

Chris (07:34.946)
Yes.

Chris (07:42.766)
Yeah, I had no idea and I've never watched, I never saw all of Arrested Development and I certainly didn't see that episode. For that episode alone, I want to go and pop that on. Oh, well, lovely. Oh, so it's spread out? Holy moly.

Luciano (07:54.55)
It's more than one episode wait, I think it's a whole arc. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's been a while now, but yeah, it's a recurring thing with...

Chris (08:06.69)
Well, that's, that's, but not putty.

Luciano (08:11.058)
Well, anyway, the rest of the development is worth it. But yeah, and I'm reading here that he was on Happy Gilmore. I don't remember.

Chris (08:12.738)
Yeah, that guy. Oh my God. But yeah. Go ahead.

Oh yeah, he was, you do or don't remember.

Luciano (08:25.494)
I don't, because I think I only watched bits and pieces of Happy Gilmore a long time ago.

Chris (08:29.506)
Yay. He was the, he was happy's mentor, uh, chubs Peterson with a fake, with a fake, uh, let me, let me think about this with the fake right hand that, uh, cost him his opportunity to go pro because an alligator bit it off, but he did manage to get the eye. Like they, they, they tussled him in the alligator and he got the eye of that alligator. So in a very light captain hook and, and, and crocodile, uh, adversarial, you know, back and forth.

Luciano (08:33.908)
Mmm.

Luciano (08:52.286)
Mmm.

Luciano (08:58.902)
That's right.

Chris (08:58.942)
Nemesis they had that nemesis back bond between them. And so yeah, like After after Apollo Creed and then not really knowing like who it was I was seeing when Street Justice TV show was on 91 to 1993 I'm just looking at it When I saw him in Happy Gilmore He was also oh shoot he was also in little Nicky another Adam Sandler movie still is chubs

Luciano (09:25.29)
Yeah, but I think it's a can like I dad I remember I remember and you know, this was when I was like, holy shit, who is that guy? I know that guy, but I couldn't like place him. But yeah, he's there. He's there. I didn't remember his name, but he's there.

Chris (09:33.634)
Yeah. Yeah. Oh, wow. So yeah, and happy Gilmore. That was good. I actually re started rewatching it early, early this morning just to get exposed or reconnected to to I wouldn't say the lesser known content, but just something that I thought would be funny because I wanted to catch you off guard and be like his greatest role was was Chubb's Peterson, which you didn't really know.

Luciano (09:58.166)
Ha ha ha.

Chris (09:59.938)
You were loosely aware. And so I think that carried off pretty well. But he did a lot of other work, too. I mean, we don't have to recount all of his work, but notable for the most notable for us. Did you know that he was in a Toy Story Halloween short as Action Carl? And there was a...

Luciano (10:10.174)
No, no.

Luciano (10:19.062)
I did not.

Luciano (10:23.734)
Ha ha ha ha!

Chris (10:24.514)
Yeah, and he was also missing a hand, which was like an homage to his Chubbs Peterson Happy Gilmore thing. I saw the clips of that and that was like, oh my God, this man does not miss. He doesn't quit and he doesn't miss. Holy.

Luciano (10:29.524)
Yeah, yeah.

Luciano (10:39.766)
Yeah, just to confirm, so he was in four episodes of RESTED DEVELOPMENT. And I just saw here that he was in Psych. I watched Psych probably three times end to end, and I don't remember him being there. It's one episode only, but...

Chris (10:43.778)
Okay. Oh man.

Chris (10:51.586)
Really? It's easy to miss him because when he has his mustache beard or goatee and not, it changes his appearance altogether.

Luciano (10:59.414)
It's very iconic. Yeah. Yeah, you're right. Yeah. Well, I mean, I have we have to talk obviously about Mandalorian, right, which was the very last thing that he did. Grief Karga, which it was funny because again, I had the thing. Oh, that dude. Fuck. Right. Oh, Apollo Creed. Like that was that was like there was a moment there. But like.

Chris (11:07.532)
About. About. Hell yeah. Yeah.

Chris (11:15.188)
Yeah.

Chris (11:24.002)
You

Luciano (11:27.286)
I remember distinctly when I watched... Because I think it's season two only, right? Or season one and two, yeah. But I remember going, oh, I don't think he has the chops to pull this off. And I was wrong. Like the first couple of episodes, I was like, eh, this is not very convincing. All three seasons, okay. Yeah.

Chris (11:35.362)
I thought he was in season one as well one in two. Yeah

Chris (11:47.938)
No, he was in it.

Chris (11:52.564)
He was in three seasons. Yeah. And he won, I think he also won, he won an Emmy for best supporting actor and he directed two in one of them. I think it was the same one episode.

Luciano (12:00.31)
Yeah, yeah, that's what I'm saying. Yes, he directed one, yeah. And I remember seeing him in the first few episodes, I was like, man, I remember Kyle Weather's being better at acting. But I think it was direction that there was a problem because he grows into the character very much. And then, yeah, I need to get used to him. The character has that thing where you're like...

Chris (12:20.256)
Yeah.

Luciano (12:28.47)
Is he going to betray Mando? And he does, but then he doesn't. So like, yeah, no. And I think it's, you know, nobody expected, I'm sure he didn't expect it. None of us expected it to be a send off, but I think it's a good, you know, as accidental as it might be, or as happenstance as it might be, I think it's a good last thing for him to have done.

Chris (12:30.658)
Right.

Chris (12:34.348)
Is that mercurial air about him?

Chris (12:45.694)
Yeah.

Chris (12:57.442)
Yeah, there's no way we could have known, right?

Luciano (13:00.864)
Well, yeah, especially because he wasn't sick or anything. He just passed away in his sleep, right? So...

Chris (13:06.594)
Yeah, which is kind of a good way to go.

Luciano (13:09.974)
You will be better than suffering with disease or something for sure. Yeah.

Chris (13:13.058)
Yeah. And I would also say like the trade off, the trade off like to like leveraging more time, I guess, like the writers and the showrunners in Mandalorian leveraging more time towards the rest of the ensemble cast, what with the like the minusing of Gina Carano's Cara Dune, like Carl and everyone else more than stepped up because they like reshuffled the writing and made sure that the trajectory was going well.

Luciano (13:33.598)
Oh boy. Yeah.

Chris (13:42.53)
Um, which in a way, some might, I don't know, some might say that it's, that's trickier when you have to, like, when you have to deal with the minus of a character or, or that actor.

Luciano (13:53.034)
Yeah, especially in that way, right? In the olden days of TV series, they would just replace him and everybody would just act like it didn't happen. Whereas us as viewers would go, what the fuck is going on? I don't know if you remember watching Fresh Prince of Bel -Air and Vivian just one day was a different actress and we were like...

Chris (13:59.522)
Right. Yeah.

Yeah.

Chris (14:07.018)
Yeah.

I do.

Chris (14:14.398)
completely and I'm like, who is this? This is not, I'm trying not to swear too much because like I don't want to disrespect women like that, but yo.

Luciano (14:22.55)
Yeah, I know what you mean, but like I was like, not only did they change the person who plays it, but like the character took a different turn completely the way that she acted and everything. And I'm glad. Yeah. And I'm glad that we don't do that anymore because I feel like, you know, if someone were to replace Gina Carano as as Cara Dune, I think I'd be all right with it.

Chris (14:33.026)
Yeah, she wasn't as fiery.

Chris (14:40.768)
Yeah.

Chris (14:50.754)
True.

Luciano (14:51.478)
Um, but like, like I said, I think with grief, like Carl, others kind of made the character is like replacing Mando, like replacing Pedro Pascal with some other dude, even though he doesn't appear for most of the thing. It's not. Right. So I'm glad, I'm glad they're going to have to figure something out. Wait, didn't didn't grief.

Chris (14:55.554)
Yeah.

Chris (15:03.37)
Yeah.

Right. It's that.

Chris (15:12.692)
Yeah.

I don't, I honestly don't think so. It's been a while. Yeah. I it's to the point where like I consume so much where I honestly can't recall what happened at the end of Mando season three. And I don't know if I should be ashamed or proud because I've, I've we've dwarfed what like we've dwarfed it's it's season launch, but like for Carl Weathers, like, you know,

Luciano (15:18.134)
Fuck I don't remember.

Yeah.

Luciano (15:25.526)
Yeah. I mean...

Luciano (15:33.14)
Well.

Luciano (15:37.558)
Yeah, but like, but the thing is with especially with Star Wars now with fucking Book of Boba Fett just being a spin off. Yeah. But like for me, those three episodes where Mando is there, I often I'm like, did this happen in Mando or did this happen in Book of Boba Fett? Because it's and then because it's all set in the same thing and characters recur, I'm like, wait, was this in Mando or was this in the Rebels cartoon?

Chris (15:47.298)
We don't talk about Boba Fett. But you're right.

Chris (15:57.41)
Yeah... Yeah...

Luciano (16:07.478)
So, cause I watched all of it. So yeah. But I, but like going back to the subject, we don't, this is a small one. We really don't have time to derail the way that we usually do.

Chris (16:07.778)
Oh, yeah. So it's starting to bleed together when a lot of the...

Chris (16:19.554)
Yeah, it's a casual fireside time box, but not time box, but it is time box. Jaunt. Yeah, we can rerail ourselves. We don't always need Matt for that.

Luciano (16:23.008)
Yeah, it's a small tangent, it's not a huge tangent. Matt isn't really that effective at doing it. But like I said, I'm glad that now showrunners tend to do, okay, no, we're gonna have to figure something out and...

Chris (16:37.858)
Yeah.

Luciano (16:49.718)
and make the character go away. This is going to be that like that until AI is good enough that they can just use AI to put them back in. And that that's going to be awful. But I was looking here at IMDB and boy, there's two roles that he did side by side, one in 2012 and one in 2013 that are amazing. So one of them is Sheriff Tom versus the zombies where he plays president Weathers.

Chris (17:00.93)
Yeah. But hmm.

Chris (17:13.09)
Really? What are you talking about?

Luciano (17:19.638)
I haven't watched this, but now I want to. But more important than that, in American Battleship he plays General Hugh McCracken. I don't know, but I need to watch it.

Chris (17:22.658)
Okay?

Chris (17:29.538)
What the hell is that?

Chris (17:35.17)
Oh wow, President Weathers and General Hugh McCracken. Wow. Okay. And I got the Toy Story of Terror thing wrong. It's Combat Carl. And then he also did Combat Carl Jr. as well. Okay, cool. Oh my God.

Luciano (17:38.462)
Hugh McCracken.

Luciano (17:47.104)
Mm, Junior, yeah. And he also did voice acting for Mortal Kombat X or X. So there's a skin. So here's the thing. And I know I don't have to tell you this, Chris, but things are sometimes racist. And so.

Chris (17:58.434)
What, what, how, for what? What are you doing this?

Chris (18:07.266)
It's all good.

Chris (18:11.554)
Oh. Yes.

Luciano (18:13.014)
That one of the skins that you can put on Jax on Mardukom, it's Dylan, for whatever reason. Yeah, and then he voices him. Because, you know, yes, but also does it make sense? Exactly.

Chris (18:16.61)
Uh -huh. Oh, like Predator Dylan? Okay, well that's cool.

Chris (18:27.874)
No, it doesn't. I mean, because I guess the logic they used is probably, and I probably just, I could figure it out right now. They're both soldiers. So let's just, so we don't have to figure out and flesh out a different character set. Let's just make, let's just apply Dylan onto Jax and it'll be the same. And then different voice, it'll be different enough. They'll appreciate it. I am legit curious to see like, to check out some of that footage.

Luciano (18:35.668)
Mmm.

Luciano (18:39.958)
Yeah.

Luciano (18:51.046)
Yeah, I played Mortal Kombat 10, but I don't remember that skin. I think it's probably a DLC. Yeah. That's the thing. That's what I said. If you scroll down and you look at like he was in movies like in every year, especially in the 80s and 90s. And then there's a little bit of a, but still he made a lot of...

Chris (18:56.834)
2015 for that game, eh? He put in work. That's respectable.

Chris (19:12.256)
Yeah.

Luciano (19:17.942)
He made a lot of like cameos, like smaller appearances in certain series and even ER, Jesus.

Chris (19:25.154)
in ER, although I'm not surprised. There's, oh, that's a good question. I don't know who wasn't in ER, but that makes a lot of sense. But dang, man. Oh, and like the whole, like for me, as far as like, Blaxploitation movies go and having them on my radar and stuff, I had no idea that he was the Action Jackson. I had no idea.

Luciano (19:26.812)
Well, yeah, who wasn't on your?

Luciano (19:33.77)
Yeah.

Luciano (19:43.188)
Mmm.

Luciano (19:49.812)
Yeah, I wasn't aware of it either.

Chris (19:53.634)
Jericho Jackson 1988 she with

Luciano (19:56.842)
That is such a good... Like Jericho Jackson is such a good name for like a detective in a Black Splatoon movie. Like it's just... Who?

Chris (20:06.562)
And you know who was his chief? Bill Duke from Predator.

Luciano (20:10.646)
Oh really? Well, Bill Duke is the one with the one that changed the yeah the profuse sweat. Yeah.

Chris (20:11.906)
Yup. Yup.

the sweat, the profuse, the profuse, who keeps, who sweatshaves for no reason? Oh, we need, I kind of feel like we need to bring Predator back at some point. It's just too timeless to not bring in. But anyways, yeah. Holy moly, yeah.

Luciano (20:29.906)
yeah oh wow oh he played he plays Apollo Creed in a music video a James Brown music video oh my god

Chris (20:36.002)
Yeah, with James Brown. Like, come on. The guy is timeless. There'll never be another Carl Weathers. And he's not Pombus. I don't know, kind of like Conor McGregor is in his own way. Because I think Roadhouse is coming, a new Roadhouse with Jake Gyllenhaal. And Conor McGregor is going to be that nemesis for him. But like, yeah.

Luciano (20:42.838)
Yeah, no, I agree.

Luciano (20:54.516)
Yeah.

Oh my god.

I already can't stand it. Like just from watching the trailer, I'm like fucking, oh, that guy is so obnoxious.

Chris (21:09.89)
but you don't get, and it's really cool when you come across actors that can separate and be whatever, like shape themselves into whatever character they have to, but still be respectable outside, outside of that.

Luciano (21:21.686)
Well, yeah, I think it's the opposite, right? I think it most...

Chris (21:27.65)
I'm not talking about Conor McGregor, I'm talking, he's playing himself. Yeah.

Luciano (21:30.902)
That's what I'm saying. I think most actors who are actually actors know how to play into a character. Whereas Conrad Greger is just an asshole and is not acting at all. He's just being an asshole on command rather than by his own volition. It comes easily, right?

Chris (21:45.62)
Yeah.

There was also a world that I didn't even know that he had done from like 2015 to 19. There was a show called Star Versus the Forces of Evil. This was animated again. And he played Omnitraxus Prime, this like ethereal skull being that has this like heir of like granddad. And this is on Disney, like the Disney XD Disney channel. And he was still getting, yeah.

Luciano (22:03.274)
Nice.

Hahaha.

Yeah.

Luciano (22:15.06)
Oh really?

Chris (22:17.058)
I'll share the video with you after as well, but like, it's just the little things that pop up that you have no idea sometimes and still make you smile. You know, I got nothing but respect for Carl Weathers, dang it.

Luciano (22:27.198)
Yeah.

Yeah, same. I feel like he was obviously, you know, whatever he presents as his outward facade is whatever he wants to. But he feels... I watched some interviews with him and I watched the entire... So Disney Plus has the behind the scenes...

Chris (22:39.296)
Yeah.

Chris (22:43.842)
Mm -hmm. Yeah.

Chris (22:49.346)
Me too, yeah.

Chris (22:57.73)
Ohhhh

Luciano (22:58.45)
stuff for Mando. I watched the season one and season two. It's really fun. But they interview him and he obviously directed two episodes there. And I'm just looking here, he directed a lot of stuff, a lot of episodes. He directed an episode of Hawaii Five -O. He directed an episode of Law and Order and some other stuff.

Chris (23:13.73)
In Mando? Oh, Hawaii Fubo, yeah.

Chris (23:21.154)
Wow.

That's incredible. Not many people can -

Luciano (23:23.766)
He directed five episodes of the Sheena TV series? Oh my god. And Pensacola Wings of Gold. So you know, some good stuff and some bad stuff.

Chris (23:28.682)
Oh wow. Yo, the man put in work.

And I wouldn't be surprised if he directed some episodes from the new Magnum P .I. TV show, like the reboot TV show. He was in it. Yeah. Wow.

Luciano (23:42.71)
doesn't look like it. He was in it, but it doesn't look like he directed. Yeah. But like, you know, from the interviews there when he was talking and the guy, the person doing the interviews talked to him about, you know, how he, you know, he, cause grief is a pretty important character in Mando, right? And they asked him, you know, how he felt about being...

Chris (24:06.144)
Yes.

Luciano (24:10.55)
brought into the Star Wars universe how so many people grew up with the thing and then were big fans. Like they talk about Ewan McGregor, you know, when he was doing the prequels and having to tell, like having to be told to shut up because he was going, whoa, whoa, whoa, when he was fighting. And then they asked him, and I remember him being super down to earth when he was responding. He was like, I'm too old.

Chris (24:18.082)
Right.

Chris (24:23.424)
Yes.

Chris (24:31.33)
Ha ha ha. Yes.

Luciano (24:38.742)
for that to have been, like I wasn't that into Star Wars. I was aware of it obviously, but I wasn't a kid when it came out. I was already like a teenager or a young adult and I never got into it. But then, you know, being invited to this is obviously a huge honor. And, you know, like the stuff that actors always say, but like he was, he didn't like pander to go, oh yes, I was, he was like, no, I wasn't into it, but now I am.

Chris (24:44.354)
Yeah. Yeah.

Chris (24:50.594)
Yeah.

Luciano (25:08.054)
Right? And so that, I like that. I like when, you know, actors, and it's funny because just thinking now the way that he acts as himself in Arrested Development is like the polar opposite of that, where he's super entitled and shit. And yeah, I feel like it's, he was a down to earth guy and gone too soon, 76 is not that old. And yeah, well, it's a...

Chris (25:08.128)
Yes.

Chris (25:22.05)
Hmm... Yes.

Chris (25:32.994)
Yeah.

Luciano (25:37.014)
All of our 80s heroes are at risk now, because they're all getting very old. Yeah.

Chris (25:40.226)
Looks that way. Yeah, we've got to keep pumping iron. I guess like that's that's that's what Arnold and Sly seem to seem to be doing in there in there in the in that upper tier age. So if we follow in their footsteps and do more machismo filled, you know, handshakes, maybe we'll we'll be able to go out. Well, not if not that I was I was going in the direction of maybe we'll we'll reach the same levels. Our podcast will reach the at least at least half the level of

Luciano (25:45.278)
Yeah, well.

Luciano (25:56.486)
Increase their lifespan.

Chris (26:10.092)
respect and fame that Mr. Carl Weathers achieved.

Luciano (26:15.638)
Well, I'm not Austrian, but next time we meet in person, we can do an homage and do the handshake UNA. We lack the biceps, but we'll make do.

Chris (26:21.538)
Yeah, I will just ASMR that.

No one has to know, but now you put our, so we'll have to cut this out in post and then we'll ASMR the Dylan and what was Arnold's name in Predator? Dylan and something, we'll do it. We'll just do that. We'll just do that and ASMR that.

Luciano (26:29.078)
Fair?

Luciano (26:32.726)
Hahaha!

Luciano (26:41.568)
Who cares? Arnold. I'll find out. Give me a second. No, because that's, it's shameful that I don't remember our name. It's with a D. Or maybe it's not with a D. Fuck. Where are you?

Chris (26:48.578)
It's all good. But yeah.

Chris (26:53.824)
X

Dylan and something. And like, that would be funny if they were both Ds, double Ds. But yeah, and.

Luciano (27:04.31)
That's that's something else Dutch Dutch Dutch. Yeah Dutch. Yeah

Chris (27:07.682)
I know, see? So we were close. That's why I was trying to coax it out of our shared consciousness right now. But yeah, if it was possible, if our podcast was like audio end, we had video, I would be more than happy to like cut and paste that scene towards the, like almost the end of Happy Gilmore when Chubbs is trying to like force ghost.

Luciano (27:32.916)
Hahaha!

Chris (27:35.118)
Inspire happy Gilmore to don't worry. He's playing the piano all dressed in white and he's like a kiss for luck and I'll be on my way Don't worry happy just tap it in just just just just just tap it in it's all in the hips Yeah, it's all in the hips rest in peace Carl Weathers

Luciano (27:43.254)
Hahaha.

Luciano (27:53.238)
Yeah, rest in peace. Gone too soon. Still, you know, like I said, peacefully, it's a much better way. We've seen, and we've been seeing in the past couple of years, a lot of people going after fighting diseases and losing. That's a shitty way to end your life. At least he, you know, at least he passed away peacefully, right?

Chris (27:56.93)
Yeah.

Chris (28:10.626)
or yes, he went out. Yeah, yeah. Peacefully and not like one David Carradine. So you could count. Hey, he's winning. He's winning. He won. He did a lot better than one DC. So I think that's a good place to cap it. But at the same time.

Luciano (28:19.378)
Jesus could you have you had to go there? Yeah, yeah, he went he went he went out ahead. I agree

Alright.

Chris (28:35.468)
We'll we'll I think it'll be fun to rewatch Predator for this podcast. We did it on the previous one, but it was only the two of us. I wonder how they how they're how the how Matt and Spencer would react to our reactions if we were to ever do to bring that one back or other movies. It's it's too timeless.

Luciano (28:48.726)
I think we should at some point because the way we did it in the other and the way you did it in the other podcast was different and we were using a different format, a different ranking system. So yeah.

Chris (29:01.474)
format? Yeah.

true. And there are lots of predators. Like if we could do all we could have do do a whole I'm not saying we should. I'm saying it's possible to do a whole theme series around different predators.

Luciano (29:09.192)
Yeah.

Luciano (29:15.414)
I don't think I'm ready for Predator 2. I'm not ready for Danny Glover to f***ing... I love Danny Glover in Lethal Weapon, but that movie is not good.

Chris (29:23.842)
Yeah

Chris (29:28.226)
And then I think we've all seen Aliens vs Predator. I don't know if we can handle rewatching that.

Luciano (29:33.302)
Oh, whew. That movie is good for exactly five minutes, which is when the bespectacled, the guy with the glasses, a scientist explains the story and then everything else is absolute garbage. Bespectacled. There you go. See, English is my second language. We did it. Yeah.

Chris (29:44.066)
Yeah. Yeah.

Chris (29:50.85)
All right. Yeah, yeah. It's all good. We did it. We did it. We came, we held it down. We tried to create a bit of a, well, yeah, we didn't have to, but we chose to show up for our man Carl Weathers and he'll forever be immortalized on the silver screen.

Luciano (30:01.702)
Someone had to.

Luciano (30:13.972)
Yeah, rest in peace, King.

Chris (30:17.186)
Okay, well that's our popcorn and plot holes, shorts, behind the scenes, stinger, extra credit, foray. Tune in next time. We'll be back doing everything you know and love across the facts spectrum and keep it locked.

Luciano (30:32.566)
Yeah, we're resuming what we said in the last episode. All right, cheers.

Chris (30:37.57)
Yeah. All right. Peace. Get down to the chopper. Yeah.

Luciano (30:44.534)
Dylan! You son of a bitch!

Chris (30:46.818)
You're one of the best, huh? Oh, I see. I see. Rocky, there is no tomorrow!

Luciano (30:53.386)
What's the matter? CIA have you pushed in too many pencils?

Chris (30:59.09)
God damn it, Rock!